Re: [MBZ] ATF etc.
What about Mercedes nitrogen for tires? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:07 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you really want to go to town, I have a box of Mercedes wipes, made just to lube and clean the antenna. Ed 300E 2008/11/10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze? This is news to me... Sure there is. Several flavors, in fact. MB brake fluid, too. I have four gift bottles on the shelf. RLE ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001 http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 ds same as W123?
More particularly, is the front half of the driveshaft the same length? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone have one of those Asus Eee micro-notebooks?
My phone, the Samsung Blackjack II, can do all of that except the WiFi. I've toyed with the idea of getting a bluetooth keyboard for it. Luther Bill R wrote: Allan - for a super compact travel machine I am still very happy with my IPAQ Rx5915. I wear it on a belt clip and use the touch pad for short messages, and have a Stowaway iGo Bluetooth keyboard [with built in stand for keeping the IPAQ at the proper angle] and mouse for more intensive writing and editing [I am currently into a 21 page document written entirely on this pocket pc, and have done several 10 page ones.] In addition it has a full feature TomTom built in and mp3 with a decent stereo output [I also use a Bluetooth stereo headset, but wired is easier] and don’t use that very often anyway. Were I to take the time and trouble it is also capable of playing movies, but I have only done that a few times and never gotten more than a half or quarter screen shot, though full screen is available. It has about 2 gig built in file memory plus the main memory, and I have a 4 gig SD card for storing all the extra stuff. I keep a couple of hundred full length novels, 6 or 8 full length movies, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer and Outlook, and a dozen or so other apps and games. It has built in WiFi as well as Bluetooth, and were I to have a Bluetooth cell phone it should be able to surf the web as well as connect to use IE and Outlook from anywhere there is cell service as well as using the hotspots as I do now. The PC interface lets everything in Outlook automatically update every time I sync with my computer. It is far from perfect, but for a few hundred dollars I can set up a portable office at a café or library or my dining room [if all the household computers are busy] and have everything I need. It's great for travelling, which I did before I retired. I bought all of it used on eBay, but do recommend the warranty as I have had a couple of them go bad within a year, and they were replaced free. I have often wished for a tablet PC or laptop, but this is pretty good and a lot less cumbersome to transport. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF etc.
Zepplin gas makes them lighter and go faster. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/11 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about Mercedes nitrogen for tires? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:07 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you really want to go to town, I have a box of Mercedes wipes, made just to lube and clean the antenna. Ed 300E 2008/11/10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze? This is news to me... Sure there is. Several flavors, in fact. MB brake fluid, too. I have four gift bottles on the shelf. RLE ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001 http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crazy...
23 year old car with 90,000 miles that lives in a snowy part of the country. Worth half that, if he fixed the $50 star on the hood, the wind was blowing in the right direction and all the planets were lined up. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/11 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/913269299.html Runs well. Mechanic has suggested it is worth $10,000 or more. Priced for quick sale. If its worth so much why doesn't the mechanic buy it? Pics are from March or April, we haven't had that kind of snow yet this year. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
Mercedes says ATF is not acceptable for their cars after 1985. Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, E M wrote: Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124 gasser, you can use Mobil 1 ATF for the power steering, correct? It's snowing here, and I have a few things on the list, but changing steering fluid is as motivated as I can get today. I seem to remember, suck out what you can, add while turning the steering wheel. Wait awhile and repeat. After 3 times, most of the fluid will be changed? Umm, there's a filter in there too I think? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
LarryT wrote: I've had good luck with left handed drill bits - often will break the fastener loose while drilling - (vibrations?) and use a lubricant while drilling. I think it's more shrinkage as the male threads weaken and collapse when you hollow the bolt out. If you can get dead center, and drill slightly smaller than the threads, chances of success are very high. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 ds same as W123?
No. You need specific w123 bits. BTDT. :) Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Rolf wrote: More particularly, is the front half of the driveshaft the same length? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Great site to ID parts numbers
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Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone have one of those Asus Eee micro-notebooks? - BT keyboard
I have toyed with getting a phone with a large screen, like my Ipaq [240 x 320, and can be oriented any all four directions,] but never been wiling to pay for the service. I send ATT $25 every three months to keep my number and have it available in an emergency. There are a lot of BT keyboards available. My main reason for plugging the iGO Stowaway is that on my used keyboard the stand broke a few months ago and they just sent me a replacement. No charge, no questions about if I was the original owner, or 'this unit is out of production' comments. They just replaced it. I like that sort of service. It is a bit of a hassle to set up and connect the BT keyboard and mouse, but it does make the experience of using it for writing much easier. The main problem is that wile each of the components fit easily into a pocket, with the keyboard that is all that will fit in the pocket, and I dont think any of them are very appreciative of the torque the a rear pocket would put on them. Great investment for a limited number of occasions and users. I carry a bag that holds all my extras for the computer and all my diabetic supplies, when I remember to take it with me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone have one of those Asus Eee micro-notebooks? My phone, the Samsung Blackjack II, can do all of that except the WiFi. I've toyed with the idea of getting a bluetooth keyboard for it. Luther Bill R wrote: Allan - for a super compact travel machine I am still very happy with my IPAQ Rx5915. I wear it on a belt clip and use the touch pad for short messages, and have a Stowaway iGo Bluetooth keyboard [with built in stand for keeping the IPAQ at the proper angle] and mouse for more intensive writing and editing [I am currently into a 21 page document written entirely on this pocket pc, and have done several 10 page ones.] In addition it has a full feature TomTom built in and mp3 with a decent stereo output [I also use a Bluetooth stereo headset, but wired is easier] and dont use that very often anyway. Were I to take the time and trouble it is also capable of playing movies, but I have only done that a few times and never gotten more than a half or quarter screen shot, though full screen is available. It has about 2 gig built in file memory plus the main memory, and I have a 4 gig SD card for storing all the extra stuff. I keep a couple of hundred full length novels, 6 or 8 full length movies, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer and Outlook, and a dozen or so other apps and games. It has built in WiFi as well as Bluetooth, and were I to have a Bluetooth cell phone it should be able to surf the web as well as connect to use IE and Outlook from anywhere there is cell service as well as using the hotspots as I do now. The PC interface lets everything in Outlook automatically update every time I sync with my computer. It is far from perfect, but for a few hundred dollars I can set up a portable office at a café or library or my dining room [if all the household computers are busy] and have everything I need. It's great for travelling, which I did before I retired. I bought all of it used on eBay, but do recommend the warranty as I have had a couple of them go bad within a year, and they were replaced free. I have often wished for a tablet PC or laptop, but this is pretty good and a lot less cumbersome to transport. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I am also a big fan of the s123 but Marshall said the s124 was more refined, powerful and economical to drive. I've never driven one but I know how much more refined my w201 is than my w123 and having driven Dwight's w124 consider it the same. I'd love another s123 but would want one in considerably better condition than my old one. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:48:05 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would have to respectfully disagree. The best MB diesel ever made was the W23 turbodiesel wagon. What a great combination of durability, fuel economy, practicality, and pure driving pleasure. Andrew (who is deeply biased) 1983 300TD, 320 K miles (200 k miles drive train). On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) RV Mog in ATL
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/912563925.html That is not a Unimog. The open driveline is a giveaway. It's one of their 4wd trucks. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Without a nonconductor between them, electrolysis will rust away (erode) the iron. When dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, electrolysis (natural reaction/flow of electrons between them) erodes the less noble metal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update You should not be mixing iron brass. You should have a fitting in between made of PVC. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update I finished installing the new water system in the kitchen this evening. It consists of two stainless and bronze filter housings, lots of iron, brass, copper, and plastic parts. Of possible note is that the filter assemblies were salvaged from a photo lab water temp control panel - and is old. I soaked the assemblies overnight in a bucket of citric acid to clean off the old scale deposits - they came out sparkling clean looking. The filters are carbon block, 5 micron nominal, and new. The water now tastes oily and metallic - even after running it for 15 minutes. Is this likely coming from the old filter top casting (bronze) or the iron pipe reducers and nipples? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. For the 107, new control arms were about $150 each vs the $32 for just the ball joints. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
calculation and found a figure of some 47 mpg. I'm guessing a good day, and appropriate he/she fillups on both ends. Question: Can an odometer that is about to go bad actually clock more miles than it should? Not usually, though a dial could in theory stick and roll two spots (or more) instead of one. But the trip odometer wouldn't track the cumulative one in that case. I use the TO almost exclusively to track fuel mileage, but I write down both numbers in the log. Little chance of that tricking me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
When dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, electrolysis (natural reaction/flow of electrons between them) erodes the less noble metal. Even not in direct contact the low-level conductivity of the tap water will cause slow erosion over time. Takes years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
How about aluminum and brass? I'm working on a plan to replace most of the rubber fuel lines in the engine compartment of my Vanagon. I am planning to use aircraft fuel line and fittings (aluminum) but I have not been able to find fuel hose barbs in anything but brass. Can brass fittings be used with aluminum, or do I need to keep looking? Allan On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:48:04 -0500, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Without a nonconductor between them, electrolysis will rust away (erode) the iron. When dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, electrolysis (natural reaction/flow of electrons between them) erodes the less noble metal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update You should not be mixing iron brass. You should have a fitting in between made of PVC. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update I finished installing the new water system in the kitchen this evening. It consists of two stainless and bronze filter housings, lots of iron, brass, copper, and plastic parts. Of possible note is that the filter assemblies were salvaged from a photo lab water temp control panel - and is old. I soaked the assemblies overnight in a bucket of citric acid to clean off the old scale deposits - they came out sparkling clean looking. The filters are carbon block, 5 micron nominal, and new. The water now tastes oily and metallic - even after running it for 15 minutes. Is this likely coming from the old filter top casting (bronze) or the iron pipe reducers and nipples? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Yes, that, too, but much slower than direct contact, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update When dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, electrolysis (natural reaction/flow of electrons between them) erodes the less noble metal. Even not in direct contact the low-level conductivity of the tap water will cause slow erosion over time. Takes years. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Mitch Haley wrote: Why not something like McMaster.com's part number 5176K23 or 5176K24? That's what I redid my Plymouth with when it started getting rusty after 12 years. Just clamp it to the chassis every 2-3 feet, and use rubber or tygon at both ends for flex. Did I say Tygon? Oops, that's vinyl. I meant the firm black plastic stuff like Saab used to use. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans
Well Said, Donald. I'd like to add my name to yours. I know we have several veterans on here and I also know that we have thanked them previously for their efforts. But, it bears repeating. Thank you to all of our veterans. Those who served and came back and to those that did not return. Thank you also the Gold Star Mothers (and Fathers) who raised their children to serve and who now must bear the pain of their child's sacrifice. We are grateful. Donald H. Snook Loren Faeth At 09:23 AM 11/11/2008, you wrote: I know we have several veterans on here and I also know that we have thanked them previously for their efforts. But, it bears repeating. Thank you to all of our veterans. Those who served and came back and to those that did not return. Thank you also the Gold Star Mothers (and Fathers) who raised their children to serve and who now must bear the pain of their child's sacrifice. We are grateful. Donald H. Snook Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ever wanted to own your own McLaren?
I mean whats in a name but at least you can say you got one in the stables http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/914601918.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans
I know we have several veterans on here and I also know that we have thanked them previously for their efforts. But, it bears repeating. Thank you to all of our veterans. Those who served and came back and to those that did not return. Thank you also the Gold Star Mothers (and Fathers) who raised their children to serve and who now must bear the pain of their child's sacrifice. We are grateful. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever wanted to own your own McLaren?
What's the point of all that custom bodywork if the end result looks like a Chrysler LeBaron with a Mustang grille? Alex On 11/11/08, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean whats in a name but at least you can say you got one in the stables http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/914601918.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Aluminum is less noble than brass; it'll erode by electrolysis (galvanic) action, also. Look up galvanic action or galvanic scale. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update How about aluminum and brass? I'm working on a plan to replace most of the rubber fuel lines in the engine compartment of my Vanagon. I am planning to use aircraft fuel line and fittings (aluminum) but I have not been able to find fuel hose barbs in anything but brass. Can brass fittings be used with aluminum, or do I need to keep looking? Allan On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:48:04 -0500, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Without a nonconductor between them, electrolysis will rust away (erode) the iron. When dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, electrolysis (natural reaction/flow of electrons between them) erodes the less noble metal. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update You should not be mixing iron brass. You should have a fitting in between made of PVC. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update I finished installing the new water system in the kitchen this evening. It consists of two stainless and bronze filter housings, lots of iron, brass, copper, and plastic parts. Of possible note is that the filter assemblies were salvaged from a photo lab water temp control panel - and is old. I soaked the assemblies overnight in a bucket of citric acid to clean off the old scale deposits - they came out sparkling clean looking. The filters are carbon block, 5 micron nominal, and new. The water now tastes oily and metallic - even after running it for 15 minutes. Is this likely coming from the old filter top casting (bronze) or the iron pipe reducers and nipples? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E420 problems
Subject: Re: [MBZ] E420 problems 3. When first driven when cold, the transmission won't shift from 1 to 2 unless the engine is revved above 3,000 RPM. I'd rather not have to make it go that fast immediately and would prefer the trailing-throttle upshifts it does after it's been driven a little while. If like my '92 300e there is a switchover valve above the brake booster. For testing purposes, you can unplug this and see if the 1st gear hold is temporarily disabled. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Synflex is somebody's brand name for the black plastic high strength stuff. in the 70s, it was new, and was used for small hydraulic lines. At 11:40 AM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Why not something like McMaster.com's part number 5176K23 or 5176K24? That's what I redid my Plymouth with when it started getting rusty after 12 years. Just clamp it to the chassis every 2-3 feet, and use rubber or tygon at both ends for flex. Did I say Tygon? Oops, that's vinyl. I meant the firm black plastic stuff like Saab used to use. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
The 123 body upper control arms are considerably less. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. For the 107, new control arms were about $150 each vs the $32 for just the ball joints. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Loren Faeth wrote: Synflex is somebody's brand name for the black plastic high strength stuff. in the 70s, it was new, and was used for small hydraulic lines. Late 70's Saab CIS systems were entirely plumbed with the stuff except for clear lines to the injectors. I never saw a failure in the black stuff. They'd run one straight piece from the fuel pump to the fuel filter with a banjo on each end, a short one from filter to distributor, and a smaller return line from the fuel distributor to the tank. You never had to worry about rusty or rotting fuel lines. The two main problem areas were the rubber elbow between the fuel filler pipe and the tank, and the 2 rubber hose connecting the in tank strainer to the fuel pump inlet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ever wanted to own your own McLaren?
No clue, its fugly but its a McLaren. Alex Chamberlain wrote: What's the point of all that custom bodywork if the end result looks like a Chrysler LeBaron with a Mustang grille? Alex On 11/11/08, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean whats in a name but at least you can say you got one in the stables http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/914601918.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:10:43 -0800, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: planning to use aircraft fuel line and fittings (aluminum) Big looping coils to soak up engine motion? Your other option is to use hard lines to take the mounting point to a place where the rubber, once failed, would _not_ dump fuel on an ignition source. My plan has the aluminum tubing fixed using vibration-absorbing mounts on the engine case; there would be no motion with respect to the engine. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
My parents elderly neighbor has a older body style Grand Marquis/Crown Vic that he is trying to sell. My father doesn't know whether it is a Ford or Mercury and said that it is somewhere between 1996-2000. So, he hasn't been much help in the detail department. BUT, the neighbor's children live in South Carolina and want to get rid of the car. The one thing my father did know was that it only had 39,000 miles. I don't know much about these cars other than I have mixed stories about the Crown Vic with the P71 police package. I was looking at one of these before and I don't remember what anyone said about them. I might be able to buy this cheap. Does anyone have any experience with one of these (or have a parent with one). I am only 35 - so I am not really ready for one of these, but if the price is right, I can drive for a year or two. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I would have to respectfully disagree. The best MB diesel ever made was the W23 turbodiesel wagon. What a great combination of durability, fuel economy, practicality, and pure driving pleasure. Andrew (who is deeply biased) 1983 300TD, 320 K miles (200 k miles drive train). On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
You just clamped the hose right to the pipe? Was this a carbureted application? Mine is fuel injected, I need a connection that will take some pressure which is why I would at least want some kind of a bead at the end of the pipe, if not a proper hose barb. I was looking at their 9929T123 aluminum tubing. What's the advantage of steel, wouldn't it be more prone to corrosion? Allan On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:37:01 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Allan Streib wrote: How about aluminum and brass? I'm working on a plan to replace most of the rubber fuel lines in the engine compartment of my Vanagon. Why not something like McMaster.com's part number 5176K23 or 5176K24? That's what I redid my Plymouth with when it started getting rusty after 12 years. Just clamp it to the chassis every 2-3 feet, and use rubber or tygon at both ends for flex. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
Well, my wife recently told me that she found another receipt and did the calculation and found a figure of some 47 mpg. I told her there had to be something wrong there. She, normally the skeptic and critic of the car, said we should just think its true and enjoy. Not sure whats going on. She is no dummy - has a PhD in a science field. Question: Can an odometer that is about to go bad actually clock more miles than it should? Brian On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhhh, sure.. My 190D 2.2l 5spd manual averages about 38mpg over the last 70,000 miles. High was 43 I think... I'd think that maybe somebody topped up one tank and then filled just to the shutoff on the next or added a bottle of fuel additive or something. I could make a tank come out to 50mpg if I wanted to... -Curt Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:52:31 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My wife informed me tonight that, before the stupid odometer quit, she got a couple of awesome MPG readings. The thing has been known to get around 32 to 34 mpg. But Im looking at two receipts right at 40 mpg. This in a car that, I think, needs a fuel filter change. And this before I switched to Mobil 1. Sorry Mobil lovers, I dont have post Mobil 1 data due to stupid Mercedes odometer. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
Curt Raymond wrote: Ask her to prove her method, how exactly did she come to this conclusion. 47mpg is beyond the realm of reality... A couple of gallons off on a 8-10 gallon fill could do it. Women don't like to run 16 gallons out of a 17 gallon tank, and they are probably less likely to try to squeeze an extra gallon or two into it when they refill. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Allan Streib wrote: You just clamped the hose right to the pipe? Was this a carbureted application? Low pressure TBI. The factory pipe had a bubble flare at the end and a bump 1 back, you'd slide the hose to the 2nd bump and clamp in between. My replacements only had the bubble flare on the end. With a hose clamp behind a slight bubble flare, it's not going anywhere. Alternately, you could do it like brake line and use flare fittings. That should be good for 2000psi or so. Doing it the way I did it, with bubbles on the end of the steel tube and clamping 100psi reinforced fuel hose to it, should be fine for any gasoline fuel system I know of. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics and Bob the builder on the list, again......yes they are
It was appropriated from Cesar Chavez, one of Obie's speechwriters came up with it one late night after drinking wine and smoking cigarettes and Obie thought it would resonate. Si se puede == yes we can BtB probably stole it too. --R Hendrik Fay wrote: No it was stolen from Bob the builder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU See Bob the builder does beat Joe the plumber. Wonder whether Hillary will join the crew. I suppose we can insert our own favorite crew members *BOB THE BUILDER* Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! Scoop, Muck and Dizzy, And Roley too. Lofty and Wendy Join the crew. Bob and the gang Have so much fun. Working together They get the job done. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (I think so!) Pilchard and Bird, Travis and Spud. Playing together Like good friends should. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (Yes!) *Obama the Politician *Obama the Politician Can we fix it? Obama the Politician Yes we can! Hillary, Bill and Colin and Joe too. Rahm and John join the crew Obama and the gang have so much fun. Working together they get the job done.. Hendrik with a bit of midnight silliness Zoltan Finks wrote: This slogan is too similar to that of a realty outfit from the 80s. Century 21 was it? Theirs was Yes You Can! Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes we can! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Loren Faeth wrote: Synflex is somebody's brand name for the black plastic high strength stuff. in the 70s, it was new, and was used for small hydraulic lines. Late 70's Saab CIS systems were entirely plumbed with the stuff except for clear lines to the injectors. I never saw a failure in the black stuff. They'd run one straight piece from the fuel pump to the fuel filter with a banjo on each end, a short one from filter to distributor, and a smaller return line from the fuel distributor to the tank. You never had to worry about rusty or rotting fuel lines. The two main problem areas were the rubber elbow between the fuel filler pipe and the tank, and the 2 rubber hose connecting the in tank strainer to the fuel pump inlet. Sounds like the hard black plastic tubing that VW used between the fuel pump and the engine bay. Then in the engine bay itself it is all regular rubber FI hose. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
Craig McCluskey wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. I put them in garbage bags, whether mounted or not, indoors or out, but the bags don't last forever outdoors. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
planning to use aircraft fuel line and fittings (aluminum) Big looping coils to soak up engine motion? Your other option is to use hard lines to take the mounting point to a place where the rubber, once failed, would _not_ dump fuel on an ignition source. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
Can anyone recommend a good brand of PS fluid, or best to just pick up the MB brand? Ed 300E 2008/11/11 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mercedes says ATF is not acceptable for their cars after 1985. Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, E M wrote: Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124 gasser, you can use Mobil 1 ATF for the power steering, correct? It's snowing here, and I have a few things on the list, but changing steering fluid is as motivated as I can get today. I seem to remember, suck out what you can, add while turning the steering wheel. Wait awhile and repeat. After 3 times, most of the fluid will be changed? Umm, there's a filter in there too I think? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 ds same as W123?
BTDT? Oh, ah been there done that. Is the 5spd+617 DS the same as the auto+617 DS? It's a shame that the 4spd+617 is 2cm longer than the auto+616 DS. Just a wee bit short. Have you seen the carnage that is going on in Falmouth? http://jalopnik.com/5082899/over-1000-vintage-mercedes+benzes-await-the-cruel-jaws-of-the-crusher-in-kentucky I am hoping they have 5spds. I have one but it is need of many parts, hoping I can mix and match. Also hoping the bmw getrag 5spd internals are about the same... -Rolf Mathieu J. Cama wrote: No. You need specific w123 bits. BTDT. :) Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Rolf wrote: More particularly, is the front half of the driveshaft the same length? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, again
Shoot! Politics have been banned again? Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like some political discussions are sneaking back into the list. A reminder that politics on the list is not allowed. It needs to stop now. Lets keep the MB list friedly and more on topic. Kaleb List Admin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
Which makes doing it your way smart. On the 123 the UCA is $48 and Rusty doesn't list a ball joint. Lower yes but not upper... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:50:21 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. For the 107, new control arms were about $150 each vs the $32 for just the ball joints. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
I was trying to be delicate but yeah thats basically what I'm saying. I've seen people not fill to the stop and calculate as if it were full. -Curt --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:50 AM And tank filling. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg Ask her to prove her method, how exactly did she come to this conclusion. 47mpg is beyond the realm of reality... I'd wonder about tire size maybe too... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:30:47 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, my wife recently told me that she found another receipt and did the calculation and found a figure of some 47 mpg. I told her there had to be something wrong there. She, normally the skeptic and critic of the car, said we should just think its true and enjoy. Not sure whats going on. She is no dummy - has a PhD in a science field. Question: Can an odometer that is about to go bad actually clock more miles than it should? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - now with pictures
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/912003975.html This is the 190D 2.5t that Fred and I looked at a couple weeks ago, they've added pics now. Those aren't blackout tail lights, somebody's lightly painted them... The paint looks pretty good from the pics but looks like crap in person... Good for a laugh anyway. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
That is because MB doesn't sell an upper ball joint. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm Which makes doing it your way smart. On the 123 the UCA is $48 and Rusty doesn't list a ball joint. Lower yes but not upper... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:50:21 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. For the 107, new control arms were about $150 each vs the $32 for just the ball joints. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
That explains it... --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:00 PM That is because MB doesn't sell an upper ball joint. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm Which makes doing it your way smart. On the 123 the UCA is $48 and Rusty doesn't list a ball joint. Lower yes but not upper... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:50:21 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. For the 107, new control arms were about $150 each vs the $32 for just the ball joints. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crazy...
Probably worth $13,500 on ebay if he cleaned it up and replaced the star. Those idiots LOVE low mileage cars. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 23 year old car with 90,000 miles that lives in a snowy part of the country. Worth half that, if he fixed the $50 star on the hood, the wind was blowing in the right direction and all the planets were lined up. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/11 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/913269299.html Runs well. Mechanic has suggested it is worth $10,000 or more. Priced for quick sale. If its worth so much why doesn't the mechanic buy it? Pics are from March or April, we haven't had that kind of snow yet this year. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] flare tool
Can anyone recommend a good all-purpose tubing flare tool that will do 45 and 37 (AN) flares, as well as double and metric bubble flares I know it will probably be costly but I'd rather have one good tool that can do it all than a bunch of different cheap tools. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RV Mog in ATL
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/912563925.html Dunno why its listed in Denver. If anyone contacts the owner I'd be happy to look at it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Long as you don't mind them a) rotting and b) breeding 'skeeters, it's fine. I wouldn't, myself. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not something like McMaster.com's part number 5176K23 or 5176K24? That's what I redid my Plymouth with when it started getting rusty after 12 years. Just clamp it to the chassis every 2-3 feet, and use rubber or tygon at both ends for flex. Did I say Tygon? Oops, that's vinyl. I meant the firm black plastic stuff like Saab used to use. The makers of Tygon claim that it is resistant to petroleum-based solvents. It had better be---I used it to make up the low-pressure fuel supply and return lines for my whole-house diesel generator. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Long as you don't mind them a) rotting and b) breeding 'skeeters, it's fine. I wouldn't, myself. I would cover them to keep out not the water but the light. Rainwater doesn't rot tires, but UV does. And combustion byproducts, so don't keep them in the basement next to the furnace either. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
And tank filling. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg Ask her to prove her method, how exactly did she come to this conclusion. 47mpg is beyond the realm of reality... I'd wonder about tire size maybe too... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:30:47 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, my wife recently told me that she found another receipt and did the calculation and found a figure of some 47 mpg. I told her there had to be something wrong there. She, normally the skeptic and critic of the car, said we should just think its true and enjoy. Not sure whats going on. She is no dummy - has a PhD in a science field. Question: Can an odometer that is about to go bad actually clock more miles than it should? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: I FOUND IT!!!
You HAVE to be joking! That's a 6- sixpack feature. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Youtube has a trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA1SOb9ufns Awesome... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:20:09 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: I FOUND IT!!! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wow, I didn't realize, this was Roger Corman's first sci-fi movie. http://classicscifi.blogspot.com/2008/06/day-world-ended.html I was a bit off on the title, but that's it. I gotta get it! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
Ask her to prove her method, how exactly did she come to this conclusion. 47mpg is beyond the realm of reality... I'd wonder about tire size maybe too... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:30:47 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, my wife recently told me that she found another receipt and did the calculation and found a figure of some 47 mpg. I told her there had to be something wrong there. She, normally the skeptic and critic of the car, said we should just think its true and enjoy. Not sure whats going on. She is no dummy - has a PhD in a science field. Question: Can an odometer that is about to go bad actually clock more miles than it should? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For you engineers
An engineer was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him and said, If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess. He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket. The frog spoke up again and said, If you kiss me and turn me back into a beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week. The engineer took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it to the pocket. The frog then cried out, If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess, I'll stay with you and do ANYTHING you want. Again the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket. Finally, the frog asked, What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me? The engineer said, Look I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics and Bob the builder on the list, again......yes they are
I thought that an edict had come down from the highest authority that we were going to stop this crapadoodle. Pete -- Original message -- From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it was stolen from Bob the builder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU See Bob the builder does beat Joe the plumber. Wonder whether Hillary will join the crew. I suppose we can insert our own favorite crew members *BOB THE BUILDER* Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! Scoop, Muck and Dizzy, And Roley too. Lofty and Wendy Join the crew. Bob and the gang Have so much fun. Working together They get the job done. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (I think so!) Pilchard and Bird, Travis and Spud. Playing together Like good friends should. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (Yes!) *Obama the Politician *Obama the Politician Can we fix it? Obama the Politician Yes we can! Hillary, Bill and Colin and Joe too. Rahm and John join the crew Obama and the gang have so much fun. Working together they get the job done.. Hendrik with a bit of midnight silliness Zoltan Finks wrote: This slogan is too similar to that of a realty outfit from the 80s. Century 21 was it? Theirs was Yes You Can! Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes we can! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Allan Streib wrote: How about aluminum and brass? I'm working on a plan to replace most of the rubber fuel lines in the engine compartment of my Vanagon. Why not something like McMaster.com's part number 5176K23 or 5176K24? That's what I redid my Plymouth with when it started getting rusty after 12 years. Just clamp it to the chassis every 2-3 feet, and use rubber or tygon at both ends for flex. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
I dunno but I really should do the UCA bushing too and that apparently isn't the most fun job around and besides by the time I price up all those parts I'm pretty close to the UCA assembly. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:32:29 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm thinking of replacing these because the upper ball joint boots are split on both sides on my car. I don't see the ball joints for sale and besides I don't have a press... This the 123? Don't they use the same TRW upper BJ replacement kits that the 107 uses? I just did the SL using those, it's not too hard to do. No spring compressor required. Got 'em from Rusty, about $65 for the pair. You need a 4 grinder, a BFH, and a punch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 081110 2.944 3.060 3.266 3.203 2.980 2.888 2.895 2.964 2.910 2.913 081103 3.088 3.219 3.420 3.369 3.137 3.018 3.033 3.157 3.052 3.057 081027 3.288 3.397 3.573 3.509 3.333 3.244 3.219 3.375 3.233 3.286 081020 3.482 3.553 3.729 3.633 3.503 3.447 3.453 3.555 3.433 3.460 081013 3.659 3.709 3.892 3.794 3.655 3.641 3.631 3.697 3.622 3.656 081006 3.875 3.928 4.036 3.978 3.896 3.858 3.843 3.886 3.847 3.869 080929 3.959 4.020 4.077 4.073 3.992 3.936 3.929 3.944 3.941 3.963 080922 3.958 4.021 4.110 4.081 3.987 3.931 3.924 3.964 3.943 3.951 080915 4.023 4.082 4.246 4.166 4.031 3.973 4.011 4.041 4.056 4.053 080908 4.059 4.100 4.312 4.246 4.018 4.015 4.015 4.105 4.156 4.185 080901 4.121 4.169 4.359 4.307 4.093 4.066 4.068 4.184 4.248 4.282 080825 4.145 4.199 4.382 4.360 4.113 4.073 4.098 4.227 4.286 4.359 080818 4.207 4.263 4.422 4.414 4.184 4.130 4.156 4.319 4.356 4.422 080811 4.353 4.420 4.584 4.563 4.344 4.267 4.299 4.473 4.511 4.607 080804 4.502 4.563 4.735 4.672 4.501 4.419 4.450 4.605 4.664 4.781 080728 4.603 4.664 4.806 4.772 4.604 4.518 4.570 4.657 4.766 4.869 080721 4.718 4.773 4.869 4.869 4.723 4.649 4.701 4.714 4.845 4.964 080714 4.764 4.822 4.889 4.912 4.777 4.698 4.737 4.718 4.909 5.026 080707 4.727 4.789 4.863 4.887 4.741 4.654 4.697 4.672 4.886 5.001 080630 4.645 4.704 4.822 4.822 4.643 4.571 4.604 4.638 4.817 4.928 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:23:15 -0800 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Long as you don't mind them a) rotting and b) breeding 'skeeters, it's fine. I wouldn't, myself. I would cover them to keep out not the water but the light. Rainwater doesn't rot tires, but UV does. And combustion byproducts, so don't keep them in the basement next to the furnace either. Oh! OK. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
I do, although they are used tires. I just mounted a set on my trailer that were outside, just had to get the water out of them but no problem. Craig McCluskey wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) RV Mog in ATL
1113 model number tells it is a truck, as does the OM352 engine. that engine is a HD truck engine. The 1113 was the small end of the MB made in Brazil trucks sold in the USA 20 some years ago. The 1316 was the heavy end of the line. I may have this backwards, but I think the 11 was the metric ton capacity GVW? at the 13 was related to the Kw power of the engine. maybe 130 Kw? while the 1316 had a heavier payload and a more powerful engine. 130Kw is roughly 175 HP. while 16 would be 160 Kw or roughly equivalent to 215 HP. Sounds about right. At 10:42 AM 11/11/2008, you wrote: http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/912563925.html That is not a Unimog. The open driveline is a giveaway. It's one of their 4wd trucks. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
Allan Streib wrote: I was looking at their 9929T123 aluminum tubing. What's the advantage of steel, wouldn't it be more prone to corrosion? The steel stuff does corrode, that's why I was replacing it on a 12 year old car. I'm not so sure the aluminum stuff wouldn't corrode too, and it's more susceptible to fatigue fracture, but nowhere near as bad as copper. I just used the steel because it's the same stuff that many automakers use for brake, transmission and fuel plumbing. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update
You should not be mixing iron brass. You should have a fitting in between made of PVC. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - home hot and cold water filters update I finished installing the new water system in the kitchen this evening. It consists of two stainless and bronze filter housings, lots of iron, brass, copper, and plastic parts. Of possible note is that the filter assemblies were salvaged from a photo lab water temp control panel - and is old. I soaked the assemblies overnight in a bucket of citric acid to clean off the old scale deposits - they came out sparkling clean looking. The filters are carbon block, 5 micron nominal, and new. The water now tastes oily and metallic - even after running it for 15 minutes. Is this likely coming from the old filter top casting (bronze) or the iron pipe reducers and nipples? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, again
This slogan is too similar to that of a realty outfit from the 80s. Century 21 was it? Theirs was Yes You Can! Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes we can! On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And That's how it should be . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, again Looks like some political discussions are sneaking back into the list. A reminder that politics on the list is not allowed. It needs to stop now. Lets keep the MB list friedly and more on topic. Kaleb List Admin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 ds same as W123?
On Nov 11, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Rolf wrote: BTDT? Oh, ah been there done that. Is the 5spd+617 DS the same as the auto+617 DS? actually, it is not. different p/ns in the EPC. that auto box is longer than the 5 speed. iirc, last time i looked into the bits, the correct 5 speed front half shaft is NLA. It's a shame that the 4spd+617 is 2cm longer than the auto+616 DS. Just a wee bit short. a +/- inch short will get you everytime. Have you seen the carnage that is going on in Falmouth? http://jalopnik.com/5082899/over-1000-vintage-mercedes+benzes-await- the-cruel-jaws-of-the-crusher-in-kentucky very sad, wish I had the space and time. this first hit the wires over a year ago. I am hoping they have 5spds. I have one but it is need of many parts, hoping I can mix and match. Also hoping the bmw getrag 5spd internals are about the same... heard the BMW bits do share a few with the Benz, but have not verified. -Rolf Mathieu J. Cama wrote: No. You need specific w123 bits. BTDT. :) Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Rolf wrote: More particularly, is the front half of the driveshaft the same length? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] shox, choose wisely
HDs are very hard, IMHO. I have used them on a couple of different MB chassis, and regretted not using comfort every time. You would think I would learn.. Dan --- On Mon, 11/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] shox, choose wisely To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 8:20 PM ...HD are rather hard. You may be happier with non-worn out comforts. I put HD on the Volvo sedan and greatly regretted it -- very harsh on the highway and quite loud on country roads Lo, those many years ago during my 250 period, I put Konis on it. Well, THAT was a mistake. RLE ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics and Bob the builder on the list, again......yes they are
No it was stolen from Bob the builder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU See Bob the builder does beat Joe the plumber. Wonder whether Hillary will join the crew. I suppose we can insert our own favorite crew members *BOB THE BUILDER* Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! Scoop, Muck and Dizzy, And Roley too. Lofty and Wendy Join the crew. Bob and the gang Have so much fun. Working together They get the job done. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (I think so!) Pilchard and Bird, Travis and Spud. Playing together Like good friends should. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (Yes!) *Obama the Politician *Obama the Politician Can we fix it? Obama the Politician Yes we can! Hillary, Bill and Colin and Joe too. Rahm and John join the crew Obama and the gang have so much fun. Working together they get the job done.. Hendrik with a bit of midnight silliness Zoltan Finks wrote: This slogan is too similar to that of a realty outfit from the 80s. Century 21 was it? Theirs was Yes You Can! Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes we can! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crazy...
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/913269299.html Runs well. Mechanic has suggested it is worth $10,000 or more. Priced for quick sale. If its worth so much why doesn't the mechanic buy it? Pics are from March or April, we haven't had that kind of snow yet this year. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm
The cost difference between upper ball joints control arm assemblies is not that great and you probably need inner control arm bushings anyways. Also, no grinding / hammering needed to replace the entire control arm. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Upper control arm I'm thinking of replacing these because the upper ball joint boots are split on both sides on my car. I don't see the ball joints for sale and besides I don't have a press... This the 123? Don't they use the same TRW upper BJ replacement kits that the 107 uses? I just did the SL using those, it's not too hard to do. No spring compressor required. Got 'em from Rusty, about $65 for the pair. You need a 4 grinder, a BFH, and a punch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1780 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 8:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics and Bob the builder on the list, again......yes they are
It's tough to quit when you've been on crack for 2 straight years... On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that an edict had come down from the highest authority that we were going to stop this crapadoodle. Pete -- Original message -- From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it was stolen from Bob the builder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU See Bob the builder does beat Joe the plumber. Wonder whether Hillary will join the crew. I suppose we can insert our own favorite crew members *BOB THE BUILDER* Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! Scoop, Muck and Dizzy, And Roley too. Lofty and Wendy Join the crew. Bob and the gang Have so much fun. Working together They get the job done. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (I think so!) Pilchard and Bird, Travis and Spud. Playing together Like good friends should. Bob the Builder! Can we fix it? Bob the Builder! Yes we can! (Yes!) *Obama the Politician *Obama the Politician Can we fix it? Obama the Politician Yes we can! Hillary, Bill and Colin and Joe too. Rahm and John join the crew Obama and the gang have so much fun. Working together they get the job done.. Hendrik with a bit of midnight silliness Zoltan Finks wrote: This slogan is too similar to that of a realty outfit from the 80s. Century 21 was it? Theirs was Yes You Can! Brian On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes we can! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:11:42 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do, although they are used tires. I just mounted a set on my trailer that were outside, just had to get the water out of them but no problem. Great. Mine are used tires, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
Keep 'em dry, cool and in the dark. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:23:15 -0800 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Long as you don't mind them a) rotting and b) breeding 'skeeters, it's fine. I wouldn't, myself. I would cover them to keep out not the water but the light. Rainwater doesn't rot tires, but UV does. And combustion byproducts, so don't keep them in the basement next to the furnace either. Oh! OK. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans
Yes! BillR Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans I know we have several veterans on here and I also know that we have thanked them previously for their efforts. But, it bears repeating. Thank you to all of our veterans. Those who served and came back and to those that did not return. Thank you also the Gold Star Mothers (and Fathers) who raised their children to serve and who now must bear the pain of their child's sacrifice. We are grateful. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flare tool
I had a nice snap on that would do normal and double flares. They only have double flare dies for us sizes, not metric, but I was able to make double flares with practice. The last time i needed double flares, I used my cheap flare tool and just bought the 1/8 double flare die from snappy. it worked to make double flares for MB 110 brake lines. I have never seen a tool that makes 37degree JIC flares. The only place I have seen the JIC flare used is hydraulics, and you don't want to be doing that yourself. At least I don't want to be around if you do. For hydraulics, you buy the right fittings, especially when you get to 3000 PSI hydraulics. At 02:08 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Can anyone recommend a good all-purpose tubing flare tool that will do 45 and 37 (AN) flares, as well as double and metric bubble flares I know it will probably be costly but I'd rather have one good tool that can do it all than a bunch of different cheap tools. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I've had good luck with left handed drill bits - often will break the fastener loose while drilling - (vibrations?) and use a lubricant while drilling. Once the GP is out perhaps you can find a way to get any fillings out - perhaps a magnet? I have a magnet on a long rod - screw starter on one end, magnet on the other. About the diameter of a pencil - Sears sells them - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone have one of those Asus Eee micro-notebooks?
Allan - for a super compact travel machine I am still very happy with my IPAQ Rx5915. I wear it on a belt clip and use the touch pad for short messages, and have a Stowaway iGo Bluetooth keyboard [with built in stand for keeping the IPAQ at the proper angle] and mouse for more intensive writing and editing [I am currently into a 21 page document written entirely on this pocket pc, and have done several 10 page ones.] In addition it has a full feature TomTom built in and mp3 with a decent stereo output [I also use a Bluetooth stereo headset, but wired is easier] and dont use that very often anyway. Were I to take the time and trouble it is also capable of playing movies, but I have only done that a few times and never gotten more than a half or quarter screen shot, though full screen is available. It has about 2 gig built in file memory plus the main memory, and I have a 4 gig SD card for storing all the extra stuff. I keep a couple of hundred full length novels, 6 or 8 full length movies, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer and Outlook, and a dozen or so other apps and games. It has built in WiFi as well as Bluetooth, and were I to have a Bluetooth cell phone it should be able to surf the web as well as connect to use IE and Outlook from anywhere there is cell service as well as using the hotspots as I do now. The PC interface lets everything in Outlook automatically update every time I sync with my computer. It is far from perfect, but for a few hundred dollars I can set up a portable office at a café or library or my dining room [if all the household computers are busy] and have everything I need. It's great for travelling, which I did before I retired. I bought all of it used on eBay, but do recommend the warranty as I have had a couple of them go bad within a year, and they were replaced free. I have often wished for a tablet PC or laptop, but this is pretty good and a lot less cumbersome to transport. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: anyone have one of those Asus Eee micro-notebooks? I see them at Target for $250, wondering if anyone has tried one. They come with a Linux-based OS. Seems like it might be nice for a super-compact travel machine to use for email, surfing, ssh for remote server support, etc. http://eeepc.asus.com/us/product.htm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
Yeah, but you are an Okie! Down there if you have mosquitos, they are NOT the state bird! At 03:11 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: I do, although they are used tires. I just mounted a set on my trailer that were outside, just had to get the water out of them but no problem. Craig McCluskey wrote: Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans
Thank you. 'Glad to have had the opportunity. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] Thank you to the Veterans I know we have several veterans on here and I also know that we have thanked them previously for their efforts. But, it bears repeating. Thank you to all of our veterans. Those who served and came back and to those that did not return. Thank you also the Gold Star Mothers (and Fathers) who raised their children to serve and who now must bear the pain of their child's sacrifice. We are grateful. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
E M wrote: Can anyone recommend a good brand of PS fluid, or best to just pick up the MB brand? With the cost of a new Vickers pump, I'd buy a bottle or two of MBZ stuff every five years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RV Mog in ATL
He spammed it all over the country. Saw it here in Austin, too. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/912563925.html Dunno why its listed in Denver. If anyone contacts the owner I'd be happy to look at it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
Decent cars. Rather large and floaty, but they do get upper 20's on the highway with the 302 SOHC engine. Only real drawback is the stupid self-leveling system that uses compressed air instead of hydraulic fluid. They collapse and lock up just like an MB, but cost $1500 to fix insead of $200. Peter On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Donald Snook wrote: My parents elderly neighbor has a older body style Grand Marquis/ Crown Vic that he is trying to sell. My father doesn't know whether it is a Ford or Mercury and said that it is somewhere between 1996-2000. So, he hasn't been much help in the detail department. BUT, the neighbor's children live in South Carolina and want to get rid of the car. The one thing my father did know was that it only had 39,000 miles. I don't know much about these cars other than I have mixed stories about the Crown Vic with the P71 police package. I was looking at one of these before and I don't remember what anyone said about them. I might be able to buy this cheap. Does anyone have any experience with one of these (or have a parent with one). I am only 35 - so I am not really ready for one of these, but if the price is right, I can drive for a year or two. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 fuel/electronic question
I will try to check out the MAS and o2 sensor components tonight or tomorrow. Anyone have advise about how to check them other than buy a new one and replace it like the dealers do? Now there are other symptoms: Error code 10 MAS voltage too high/too low (TENDS TO INDICATE THE mas IS THE CULPRIT) Turn signals/emergency flashers/rear defrost don't work. All have intermittently worked or not worked. Not sure if this is unrelated or related to the idle problem TIA At 04:57 PM 11/10/2008, you wrote: The MAS is in the air intake tract, it basically measures the amount of air being drawn into the motor and along with the other inputs tells the injectors how much fuel to dump into the motor. Not sure about the idle speed actuator in the M104 engine but it would appear that it is an all in one unit http://www.starpartz.co.uk/catalogue.asp?accessoryID=2180 . Far as I understand it the renewal of the harness takes care of the wiring issues. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOSCH-MASS-AIR-%23-0-280-217-500-MERCEDES-000-094-05-48_W0QQitemZ110307273492QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081103?IMSfp=TL0811031010003r33515 This may help http://mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1744748 http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.auto.mercedes/2005-10/msg00213.html http://www.buymbparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1994-Mercedes-E--3--0--Sedan-Air--Intakeyearid=1994%40%401994makeid=MB%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=E-320-001%40%40E+320+Sedancatid=B%40%40Air+Intakesubcatid=B7010@@EGR+Valvemode=PA Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: Thanks Hendrik, I will try to get the numbers and bild month. The regeneration valve/ERG I think I can find. Is the MAS the throttle body, or is that a different component? How/where do you find the idle speed controller? Would any of these components possibly still have self-destructing wiring? Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: '01 Jetta
A friend at work as an '01 Jetta 1.8T. Nice car but the shocks/struts have had it. Today doing the bounce test it failed miserably. Rusty has shocks for $62 apiece, Bilstein Touring class or Sport for $20 more each and HD for more than that. I'm thinking Touring class is correct but my buddy is nervous. I'm also thinking struts require a spring compressor and neither he nor I want to mess with that. He's even more novice at mechanicing than I am but I'm thinking the shocks are something we can accomplish. Any guidance from you crowd? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: '01 Jetta
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A friend at work as an '01 Jetta 1.8T. Nice car but the shocks/struts have had it. Today doing the bounce test it failed miserably. Rusty has shocks for $62 apiece, Bilstein Touring class or Sport for $20 more each and HD for more than that. I'm thinking Touring class is correct but my buddy is nervous. I'm also thinking struts require a spring compressor and neither he nor I want to mess with that. He's even more novice at mechanicing than I am but I'm thinking the shocks are something we can accomplish. Any guidance from you crowd? Get the Bentley book for the vehicle, or borrow it at the local library. Should explain everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside
The studded snows I've got for my 240D are but they're in bags... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:20:24 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Leaving unmounted tires outside To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Is it OK to leave unmounted tires outside, where they will get rain water in them? I vaguely recall that it is not, but I'm not sure. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
Peter Frederick wrote: Decent cars. Rather large and floaty, but they do get upper 20's on the highway with the 302 SOHC engine. I thought the 302 was the old OHV, and the modular 4.6 came in SOHC and DOHC versions. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] flare tool
'Reminds me of a night in Greenland in 1978. I was Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, now known as Kangerlussuaq. Early evening I was in my room reading and listening to classical music; phone rang; Base Commander asked me to go over to Officer's Club and talk to a NASA guy about a problem with one of their aircraft. They were there with a Cessna Citation and a Boeing 707 doing high altitude atmospheric research with National Science Foundation. At the club, Base Commander introduced me to the NASA guy. Base Commander knew that I had also been an aircraft and engine mechanic (maintenance crew chief) before I was commissioned and went to B-52's. NASA guy had just discovered a problem with the braking (or steering - can't be sure which now) system on forward landing gear of their Cessna Citation. A small, U-shaped piece of stainless steel 3000 psi hydraulic line was cracked and leaking. They needed to fly one more mission with the Cessna to be finished for the season. If they couldn't find or make a replacement for the part locally, they were going to fly the 707 to Los Angeles and back over the next coupla days to get a part. After the NASA guy described the problem, I told him that I may be able to help - I'd certainly try - I don't give up very easily. We jumped in my truck and went to the hanger to look at the leaking part. It was a U-shaped piece of 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing with each leg of the U less than 2 inches long with a flare and a compression nut on each end. I vaguely remembered that I had seen some 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing in a hanger that was used by the NY Air National Guard for their summer C-130 operations on the Greenland ice cap. We removed the offending part and took it with us to the National Guard hanger. In the hanger, I could see a bundle of the appropriate stainless steel tubing several feet away on the inside of a shop secured by an 8 feet tall chainlink fence topped by strands of barbed wire. We drug a work table from across the hanger up to the fence; I jumped up on the table and went over the fence onto another table inside the fence, walked across the shop, got a piece of the tubing and stuck it thru the fence to the NASA guy. 'Back up on the table inside the shop and back over the fence. Still not sure we'd be able to make a proper part, I stopped by to ask my Danish civilian contractor chief engineer if he may like to help. Years before, he'd been chief engineer on Danish sea-going merchant vessels. He was VERY enthusiastic as we rushed to our Base Civil Engineering ground equipment shop, hoping to find the tools to help us make the appropriate part. When we walked into the shop, we interrupted a card game of several Danish civilian contractor workmen/mechanics. When they realized what we were doing, they were all anxious to help and rushed to find three or four plumbing flaring tools in this shop and the plumbing shop nearby. These tools were for copper tubing, of course, but we forged ahead. Soon, there were at least half a dozen well-experienced mechanics in friendly competion to make, bend, flare, etc., the perfect replacement part for the Cessna. Special problems, of course, were: the 180 degree bend in such a short piece of stainless tubing, short sides of the U leaving little room to form the flare on each end and have the compression nut in the right place on each side also. The replacement had to be exactly like the original - couldn't be longer because of landing gear retraction restrictions (space in the wheel well). After several tries, we had an acceptable match visually. 'Rushed to the aircraft and installed it for a PERFECT fit. The aircraft flew its mission the next day and flew home to Los Angeles the next. 'Just a small part of my very enjoyable foreign relations experience and an excellent example of Danish mechanics' innovation and desire to excell. 'Much like our Jim Cathey. Wilton I had a nice snap on that would do normal and double flares. They only have double flare dies for us sizes, not metric, but I was able to make double flares with practice. The last time i needed double flares, I used my cheap flare tool and just bought the 1/8 double flare die from snappy. it worked to make double flares for MB 110 brake lines. I have never seen a tool that makes 37degree JIC flares. The only place I have seen the JIC flare used is hydraulics, and you don't want to be doing that yourself. At least I don't want to be around if you do. For hydraulics, you buy the right fittings, especially when you get to 3000 PSI hydraulics. At 02:08 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Can anyone recommend a good all-purpose tubing flare tool that will do 45 and 37 (AN) flares, as well as double and metric bubble flares I know it will probably be costly but I'd rather have one good tool that can do it all than a bunch of different cheap tools. Allan -- 1983 300D
Re: [MBZ] OT, a computer that will not run
Is it an AMD processor? Every AMD I've ever owned, after about 12-18 months of use (but I'm a bit hard on machines) has *required* me to pull the heatsink, clean the sink and the proc *completely* and reapply thermal transfer grease. They run hot enough to literally *boil off* *freaking grease*! Once the grease is gone, the heat sink is next to worthless because it is not adequately doing it's job. Then you start getting really odd, heat related errors. Like odd reboots, or complete system freezes. But you shut down, reboot, and it's cooled off enough to get half way through a boot, then bam, dead again. Pull the sink, check the grease. EdB On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I got this compaq computer I have been messing with on and off. Its problem was it would be running, then all the sudden just reboot for no reason. It just did it every once in a while and started getting worse. It would get to where you could not even power it on at all. So Im thinking power supply. Put in a new one, it seems to power on, and it will run fine for about 10-15 minutes, then it starts the crap again. Will just shutoff and reboot, sometimes it will finish loading windows, most of the time it just sits there and reboots over and over again. So, maybe memory, I swap that, no change, I start disabling onboard items such as LAN, ports etc thinking something is flaky, no go. So now I am thinking something with the board or processor is flaky, in which case, probably not worth messing with. Its a decent system in relative terms in that its a 1.whatever gig processor, decent size hard drive, 256 or so ram. Several years old but still worth running. What do you guys think any other ideas I have not covered? If I cant get it to work with XP, I may run it with linux just to see what happens. OR, I may just part it out so to speak. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flare tool
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:30:08 -0500 Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Reminds me of a night in Greenland in 1978 'Just a small part of my very enjoyable foreign relations experience and an excellent example of Danish mechanics' innovation and desire to excell. 'Much like our Jim Cathey. Thank you for sharing, Wilton. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, a computer that will not run
*all* manufacturers, at one point, were proprietary. However, most now are ATX compliant because it is expensive to one off boards. I have two HP/Compaq boxes right now, one has an Asus motherboard in it. I know because I had the same board in a different case, but when it boots, has an HP BIOS image to put up the HP logo instead of the Asus logo. Anyway, if you look at any modern computer, you'll probably see an ATX board of a third party in there with a case design that is crafted to that board, in so much as, they weld a little plate in for it. But on both mine, if I knock the contact welds out and pop the plate, it's the standard ATX size backplane, and can then accept any motherboard I care to install. But, that's my exp. your mileage may vary EdB On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compaqs generally have shared memory and are proprietary designs from what I have seen. I would just get a new board/processor, Microcenter or Frys ( outpost.com) have packaged deals that are pretty cheap. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It has a fresh xp install. This is a compaq, so Im not sure if its a special board or not. If not, may see if I can find a cheap one on ebay or something. LarryT wrote: Sounds like the MOBO altho you might reinstall Win just in case - Mobo's are pretty cheap - like less than $25 or so - Sounds like a lot of other stuff is working pretty well - Or you can spend $100-$140 and get a really nice MB - not superduper gaming MOBO but a very nice one - Several of choices Good luck - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, a computer that will not run Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I got this compaq computer I have been messing with on and off. Its problem was it would be running, then all the sudden just reboot for no reason. Capacitors on the M/B are dying? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, a computer that will not run
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They run hot enough to literally *boil off* *freaking grease*! It's got so bad, actually, that on any AMD I've had recently, I've put in one of the temperature/fan alarm systems to let me know when I have to pull the sink. Pretty much, I've switched to Intel except for the SPARCs and the few PPC macs I still have. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flare tool
That is a great story Wilton, and an appropriate one for Veterans' Day! At 06:30 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: 'Reminds me of a night in Greenland in 1978. I was Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, now known as Kangerlussuaq. Early evening I was in my room reading and listening to classical music; phone rang; Base Commander asked me to go over to Officer's Club and talk to a NASA guy about a problem with one of their aircraft. They were there with a Cessna Citation and a Boeing 707 doing high altitude atmospheric research with National Science Foundation. At the club, Base Commander introduced me to the NASA guy. Base Commander knew that I had also been an aircraft and engine mechanic (maintenance crew chief) before I was commissioned and went to B-52's. NASA guy had just discovered a problem with the braking (or steering - can't be sure which now) system on forward landing gear of their Cessna Citation. A small, U-shaped piece of stainless steel 3000 psi hydraulic line was cracked and leaking. They needed to fly one more mission with the Cessna to be finished for the season. If they couldn't find or make a replacement for the part locally, they were going to fly the 707 to Los Angeles and back over the next coupla days to get a part. After the NASA guy described the problem, I told him that I may be able to help - I'd certainly try - I don't give up very easily. We jumped in my truck and went to the hanger to look at the leaking part. It was a U-shaped piece of 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing with each leg of the U less than 2 inches long with a flare and a compression nut on each end. I vaguely remembered that I had seen some 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing in a hanger that was used by the NY Air National Guard for their summer C-130 operations on the Greenland ice cap. We removed the offending part and took it with us to the National Guard hanger. In the hanger, I could see a bundle of the appropriate stainless steel tubing several feet away on the inside of a shop secured by an 8 feet tall chainlink fence topped by strands of barbed wire. We drug a work table from across the hanger up to the fence; I jumped up on the table and went over the fence onto another table inside the fence, walked across the shop, got a piece of the tubing and stuck it thru the fence to the NASA guy. 'Back up on the table inside the shop and back over the fence. Still not sure we'd be able to make a proper part, I stopped by to ask my Danish civilian contractor chief engineer if he may like to help. Years before, he'd been chief engineer on Danish sea-going merchant vessels. He was VERY enthusiastic as we rushed to our Base Civil Engineering ground equipment shop, hoping to find the tools to help us make the appropriate part. When we walked into the shop, we interrupted a card game of several Danish civilian contractor workmen/mechanics. When they realized what we were doing, they were all anxious to help and rushed to find three or four plumbing flaring tools in this shop and the plumbing shop nearby. These tools were for copper tubing, of course, but we forged ahead. Soon, there were at least half a dozen well-experienced mechanics in friendly competion to make, bend, flare, etc., the perfect replacement part for the Cessna. Special problems, of course, were: the 180 degree bend in such a short piece of stainless tubing, short sides of the U leaving little room to form the flare on each end and have the compression nut in the right place on each side also. The replacement had to be exactly like the original - couldn't be longer because of landing gear retraction restrictions (space in the wheel well). After several tries, we had an acceptable match visually. 'Rushed to the aircraft and installed it for a PERFECT fit. The aircraft flew its mission the next day and flew home to Los Angeles the next. 'Just a small part of my very enjoyable foreign relations experience and an excellent example of Danish mechanics' innovation and desire to excell. 'Much like our Jim Cathey. Wilton I had a nice snap on that would do normal and double flares. They only have double flare dies for us sizes, not metric, but I was able to make double flares with practice. The last time i needed double flares, I used my cheap flare tool and just bought the 1/8 double flare die from snappy. it worked to make double flares for MB 110 brake lines. I have never seen a tool that makes 37degree JIC flares. The only place I have seen the JIC flare used is hydraulics, and you don't want to be doing that yourself. At least I don't want to be around if you do. For hydraulics, you buy the right fittings, especially when you get to 3000 PSI hydraulics. At 02:08 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Can anyone recommend a good all-purpose tubing flare tool that will do 45 and 37 (AN) flares, as well as double and metric bubble flares I know it will probably be costly but I'd rather have one good tool that can
Re: [MBZ] OT, a computer that will not run
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:44:56 -0500 Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They run hot enough to literally *boil off* *freaking grease*! It's got so bad, actually, that on any AMD I've had recently, I've put in one of the temperature/fan alarm systems to let me know when I have to pull the sink. Using good heat sink grease would help. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I've never driven a 123 wagon, but from the 115 300D, 123 240D, 126 300SDL, and 107 450SLC, only the SLC comes close to driving as nicely as the 124 2300D 2.5T. The 124 gets twice as many miles per gallon as the SLC, has a usable rear seat, and twice the runk capacity. I've not driven a newer Benz, but in my experience (and preferences) the '90 to '93 124 300D 2.5T is the ultimate daily driver Benz - which is why I've collected two of them, and sold/traded the rest. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also a big fan of the s123 but Marshall said the s124 was more refined, powerful and economical to drive. I've never driven one but I know how much more refined my w201 is than my w123 and having driven Dwight's w124 consider it the same. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
