[MBZ] Air Cleaner fixes '83 300D...was: A computer problem I can't figure out
The support extending to the rear on my '83 300D broke and I fixed it with an accurately drilled piece of one eighth by one inch steel bar matching two bolts in the manifold and the rubber mount bolt in the air cleaner. If the support extending to the side breaks, I'll fix it with the same size bar stock. Would have done so just in case, but the support looks to be in good condition. At the same time I made new compressible "bushings" for the U shaped air duct from the air cleaner to the blower. The air duct had become old and stiff and the rubber or plastic bushings in its ends had deteriorated such that the stainless steel clamps would not squeeze it down to the air cleaner or blower openings. I took the measurements of the openings down to a motorcycle/ORV shop and bought two inner tubes of a size that would stretch-fit over the openings. I cut approximately one inch "rubber bands" out of the inner tubes and stretched them over the openings. The thin "lips" on the duct were trimmed half way around so it could be installed with a tight fit. I used a narrow razor knife for that, cutting a small piece at a time. The duct tightened up better than it ever has, and it's worked well so far, but the duct is not very flexible anymore, and the bands may not provide enough elasticity to keep it in place. (I only found one replacement duct ($75 ) on Ebay or Google, and it was probably in equally bad shape. I didn't even check new prices which were probably over $100.) Gerry --- From: "Rich Thomas" The bracket is not up to the task, at least the ones I have replaced on the SD. The most recent one I got from our esteemed lister/supplier was cheap chinee crap but can probably be fixed with some stout metal. I think the problem is sort of a design issue along with a marginal part (per the design) The air cleaner is pretty heavy and sits cantilevered out quite a ways on the bracket, and the engine, and hence AC shakes quite a bit, and that bending moment/flexing with that weight hanging out there just destroys a poorly-designed/manufactured part and general arrangement. --R On 2/22/2011 12:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 300SD Air Cleaner "Fix". Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgold To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to "listen" while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like "pause"? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, "Bill Ringgold" wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okie
Re: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:22:28 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: > The tumbler was in the UNlocked (9 to 3) position when I locked the car. > The trunk was then LOCKED automatically. When I unlocked the car 5 > hrs. later, the trunk remained locked. When I opened it manually the > tumbler was still in the 9 to 3 position. Why didn't it re-lock after > i UNlocked it manually? How does manually unlocking the trunk affect > the vacuum?. >From your own admission, you had no vacuum. Strange things can happen when there is nothing to keep the pieces in known states. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:01:56 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: > The vacuum locking system on the 1985 300CD leaks down in about 4 hours > after locking the car. Having trouble-shot the vacuum system on our '82 240D/3.0 over the weekend, I have a fresh memory about the system -- I expect the coupe's system to be similar to the sedan. Our leaks were so bad, the vacuum system could barely shut off the engine. > Opening the master (driver's door) lock does not result in opening any > other door. (exception: when the vacuum is lost, the gas flap opens > automatically). That's how things are supposed to work -- the FUEL filler flap is single-action, locking only. When it looses locking vacuum, the spring included on the vacuum element pushes it to the open position. That way, you will always be able to fill the tank. > I have not pinpointed the source of the leak but suspect it's the oldest > vacuum element in the car - the trunk lock servo. That's the one that was leaking on our car -- BOTH the lock and the unlock sides! They cost $62. > This morning, I opened the master lock and went back to the (still > locked) trunk to open it manually by inserting the key in the lock, > turning it clockwise and pushing in the button simultaneously. The > trunk sprung open as expected, but what I did NOT expect was that it > REMAINED unlocked afterwards even though the vacuum power had already > dissipated. Can someone explain this? Ummm ... counterclockwise? The lock and the vacuum element both move a little flap into position or out of position to transfer the inward motion of the button to the unlocking mechanism. By opening the trunk with the key, you moved the little flap into position and when you pushed on the button, it opened the trunk. When you took out the key it was left in position because using the key apparently moved the vacuum element's diaphragm, too. To get to the trunk vacuum element, open the trunk and pry out the plastic cover on the vertical portion of the inside of the trunk just to the left of the lock. You will be able to see the locking (yellow/red) and unlocking (yellow/green) Tecalan hard lines, two pieces of black rubber tubing to connect the hard lines to the vacuum element, and the vacuum element itself (ours is blue, like in http://img.wpac.com/live/thumb/W01331624741VDO.JPG). The vacuum element is held to the sheet metal by two self-threading screws with 8 mm heads. Take the screws off and fish the element out through the hole, twisting it in a vertical direction to disconnect its arm from the arm that connects to the locks "little flap". Once you have it out and the hard lines disconnected (DO NOT bend them too sharply, they will break), you can check it out with your MityVac. Right now, pending receipt of the element from Rusty, the two pieces of rubber hose for our car are pushed onto the legs of a galvanized fencing staple to maintain vacuum-tightness for both the locking and unlocking sections of our vacuum system. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] waxed glass
> OK List Folk, is there someone here who does advocate waxing car > windows?.. > OK. There is nothing wrong with waxing all the glass except the windshield which would be foolish. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question
The tumbler was in the UNlocked (9 to 3) position when I locked the car. The trunk was then LOCKED automatically. When I unlocked the car 5 hrs. later, the trunk remained locked. When I opened it manually the tumbler was still in the 9 to 3 position. Why didn't it re-lock after i UNlocked it manually? How does manually unlocking the trunk affect the vacuum?. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Trick question? > > It depends what position the key was in when you removed it. If it was > sideways (9 to 3) the locking of the trunk is controlled by the master lock. > If the master lock is unlocked the trunk stays unlocked. > > If you return the key to upright (12 to 6) it'll be locked. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:01:56 -0500 > From: andrew strasfogel > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The vacuum locking system on the 1985 300CD leaks down in about 4 hours > after locking the car. Opening the master (driver's door) lock does not > result in opening any other door. (exception: when the vacuum is lost, > the > gas flap opens automatically). > > I have not pinpointed the source of the leak but suspect it's the oldest > vacuum element in the car - the trunk lock servo. This morning, I opened > the master lock and went back to the (still locked) trunk to open it > manually by inserting the key in the lock, turning it clockwise and pushing > in the button simultaneously. The trunk sprung open as expected, but what > I > did NOT expect was that it REMAINED unlocked afterwards even though the > vacuum power had already dissipated. Can someone explain this? > > Andrew > 1985 300TD > 1985 300TD > 1985 SWMBO 300CD > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
IIRC, Marshall used to recommend using Bonami to clean the windshield. I have used that, followed by two applications of Rejex http://www.rejex.com/ successfully. I used to use a product called "Glass Wax"but it is NLA. It was in a pink can. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Maintanence
Bunch of big Maple trees on the property, so I get all kinds of junk and keys in there too. I spend a half hour every month of so, trying to fish all the junk out. I then soak it down as best as I can with the heavier farm grade Rustcheck. Ed 300E On 22 February 2011 21:41, Max Dillon wrote: > That's a job I need to do on both of my 124 cars. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Larry T > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:05 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: [MBZ] W124 Maintanence > > Had a interesting challenge today - removed the plastic lower door panels > for painting and decided to remove the rocker panels also - on the drivers > side I found a 6"x6"x6" compartment at the leading edge of the rocker > (immediately behind the front wheel) - mine was full of leaves which had > turned to mulch! Some leaves remained of course but it was a mess getting > it all out. The only way to get the jun out was through three 1/2" holes! > Seems MB would have provided a easily opened clean-out panel to clean that > stuff out. It was at the base of the windshield rain drain which naturally > gets filled with leaves. > > Took a while to clean out using picks, screwdrivers, air and finally the > garden hose to flush out the little stuff - and I found some signs of > surface rust which I guess made it a worthwhile project... > > So now I get to treat the surfaces and hopefully stop the rust (wishful > thinking) but maybe I'll get lucky. > > LarryT > 91 300D > > Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For > Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
that'd work. Actually, I happen to have a 616 from a W115 240D. If there is enough interest, I could remove the filter housing and make a plate. Wouldn't be that different from what I've already done. If I made one and you were to get one of each type, you could put a W123 61X filter stand on a W115 616, and never have to deal with the arm-bath again. Walt On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Ja,but.. the OM61x engines used in the 115 have a different mount to the block. Walt is working on 616 plates for a 123 engine. Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep oil from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? >> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Maintanence
Are you painting the plastic panels or the car? If the plastic panels, why, and with what? On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Larry T wrote: > Had a interesting challenge today - removed the plastic lower door panels > for painting and decided to remove the rocker panels also - -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
Great news. I remember some of those bolts way up in holes --- None of mine broke. I did use an inch-ounce torque wrench -- but don't remember the setting. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Tim C wrote: > Thanks for the optimism Don. :> > > Last night I took Max's kick-in-the-pants and spun the front one > mostly out with a punch; it had enough resistance on the broken nub of > the bolt to spin it, and the bolt was about flush with the bottom edge > of the pan before I was interrupted by Scouts. I anticipate no > problem getting that one out. I am expecting (hoping?) that the same > thing works on the back one, and I can replace bolts, check everything > one last time, and fill with oil this evening. > > Thanks all, > -Tim > a little excited at the prospect of all three cars running at the same time > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Maintanence
That's a job I need to do on both of my 124 cars. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] W124 Maintanence Had a interesting challenge today - removed the plastic lower door panels for painting and decided to remove the rocker panels also - on the drivers side I found a 6"x6"x6" compartment at the leading edge of the rocker (immediately behind the front wheel) - mine was full of leaves which had turned to mulch! Some leaves remained of course but it was a mess getting it all out. The only way to get the jun out was through three 1/2" holes! Seems MB would have provided a easily opened clean-out panel to clean that stuff out. It was at the base of the windshield rain drain which naturally gets filled with leaves. Took a while to clean out using picks, screwdrivers, air and finally the garden hose to flush out the little stuff - and I found some signs of surface rust which I guess made it a worthwhile project... So now I get to treat the surfaces and hopefully stop the rust (wishful thinking) but maybe I'll get lucky. LarryT 91 300D Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
There used to be a product called "Nothin Better" or something to that effect that was used to remove fine scratches from windshields. It was great for occasional cleaning and took loads of crud off the glass. Dan Sent from my iPod On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:37 PM, "Max Dillon" wrote: > Thanks Alex, I've done the mild abrasive cleaner, next will be a solvent. > Appreciate the tip on replacing the arm/spring - that didn't even occur to > me. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:56 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> Now you've got me wondering if my '87, which has an annoyingly visible > wiper >> sweep, is suffering from Rain-X smear (even though I've never applied it > to that >> car and I've replace the blade several times). >> > > I would try (in order): > > - cleaning the windshield and blade with a mildly abrasive cleanser (I > use Bon Ami because of BMW legend that says the company issued an > official service bulletin recommending it at some point) > - cleaning the windshield with a grease-cutting solvent with a high > flash point (lacquer thinner, acetone, etc.), then rinsing with dish > soap (don't get either on the paint if you can help it)! > - replacing the wiper arm. Still available as a new part from M-B, or > at least it was a few years ago when I replaced the one on my '87 > 300D. The spring inside gets tired and doesn't hold the blade as hard > against the glass as it's meant to. Also, when you say you've > replaced the blade, do you mean the metal part or just the rubber > refill? The former wears out as well. All this made a huge > difference in wiper performance on the '87. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Thanks Alex, I've done the mild abrasive cleaner, next will be a solvent. Appreciate the tip on replacing the arm/spring - that didn't even occur to me. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > Now you've got me wondering if my '87, which has an annoyingly visible wiper > sweep, is suffering from Rain-X smear (even though I've never applied it to that > car and I've replace the blade several times). > I would try (in order): - cleaning the windshield and blade with a mildly abrasive cleanser (I use Bon Ami because of BMW legend that says the company issued an official service bulletin recommending it at some point) - cleaning the windshield with a grease-cutting solvent with a high flash point (lacquer thinner, acetone, etc.), then rinsing with dish soap (don't get either on the paint if you can help it)! - replacing the wiper arm. Still available as a new part from M-B, or at least it was a few years ago when I replaced the one on my '87 300D. The spring inside gets tired and doesn't hold the blade as hard against the glass as it's meant to. Also, when you say you've replaced the blade, do you mean the metal part or just the rubber refill? The former wears out as well. All this made a huge difference in wiper performance on the '87. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question
Trick question? It depends what position the key was in when you removed it. If it was sideways (9 to 3) the locking of the trunk is controlled by the master lock. If the master lock is unlocked the trunk stays unlocked. If you return the key to upright (12 to 6) it'll be locked. -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:01:56 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The vacuum locking system on the 1985 300CD leaks down in about 4 hours after locking the car. Opening the master (driver's door) lock does not result in opening any other door. (exception: when the vacuum is lost, the gas flap opens automatically). I have not pinpointed the source of the leak but suspect it's the oldest vacuum element in the car - the trunk lock servo. This morning, I opened the master lock and went back to the (still locked) trunk to open it manually by inserting the key in the lock, turning it clockwise and pushing in the button simultaneously. The trunk sprung open as expected, but what I did NOT expect was that it REMAINED unlocked afterwards even though the vacuum power had already dissipated. Can someone explain this? Andrew 1985 300TD 1985 300TD 1985 SWMBO 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Actually, I happen to have a 616 from a W115 240D. If there is enough interest, I could remove the filter housing and make a plate. Wouldn't be that different from what I've already done. If I made one and you were to get one of each type, you could put a W123 61X filter stand on a W115 616, and never have to deal with the arm-bath again. Walt On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ja,but.. the OM61x engines used in the 115 have a different mount to > the block. Walt is working on 616 plates for a 123 engine. > > >> Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep >> oil from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? >> >> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Kevin wrote: > Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep oil > from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? Put up a picture of this arrangement, please. This reminds me of my '65 chevy 283 oil filter. Outer steel can with large o-ring at top, and filter inside. It always created a mess with oil all over. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Ja,but.. the OM61x engines used in the 115 have a different mount to the block. Walt is working on 616 plates for a 123 engine. Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep oil from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Bingo! My thoughts exactly. It is so difficult to get the stupid can back on. I think it was designed to be easy with the car on a hoist at the MB shop but it is awful to do on the ground. I am thnking spin on filter like on North American cars. What think you all of the appropriate filter? I know the adapters are available from various people like Jegs and Summit. I was more concerned with what filter would be appropriate for an old diesel. Do I need to worry about oil pressure or the viscosity issues? Do I need a filter such as would be used on a diesel pickup truck etc? Bearing in mind of course, the amount of available space under the hood. Randy On 22/02/2011 6:16 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep oil from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Could such a plate be used to relocate the oil filter on a W115 to keep oil from running down your arm when removing the filter for oil changes? Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
In the 200D 2.4 project, I made 2 plates, one for the engine and one for the OE oil filter. they were connected with 3 4' lengths of 3/8" hyd hose from a farm store. Plain NPT thread. The oil filter resides behind the left headlight under the hood. Yep, you got it. One person asked for one in my services advert thread, then another, and I decided to make it a customizable product. Some people want one for a remote aftermarket head, some want 2 in order to relocate the stock housing for ease of access to the IP internals, or for clearance, etc. Personally, I'd use two with the OEM filter housing and lengths of hydraulic hose with proper field-install fittings for AN or JIC flares, and a low-pressure hose clamp and barb setup for the bypass line. I really don't have any recommendations for a filter head kit, having never used one, but the people on the forum could likely help if you bugged em. Hope that helps, Walt On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM, R A Bennell wrote: OK, I'm lost in space. What exactly is being offered? If I read it right, you are making a plate that attaches to the engine in lieu of the original mount for the oil filter. I assume one would then run some form of aftermarket oil filter relocation setup to move the filter onto the inner fender. The purpose being to provide more space near the engine and perhaps to make it easier to change the oil and use a more conventional screw on filter. Did I get it right? If so, what are you recommending for the relocation kit and what filter would you run? Randy On 19/02/2011 6:20 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Hello all, As mentioned in another listmail, I'm tooling up to do a run of filter relocation plates for the OM617, for those that either want to move the stock housing or switch to a different housing/filter combination. The idea started over on the SuperTurboDiesel.com forums, in reply to my services advertisement, and there's a thread with more info and a few photo's of the prototype at the following link. http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/fs-custom-billet-oil-filter-relocation-plates-t-2281.html The short run-down is, they'll be 1/2" thick and contoured to fit, all mounting holes drilled, and with your choice of hole size and treatment for the inlet, outlet, and optionally bypass line or turbo/gauge feed ports. Price is $25 per-plate with 5.50 flat-rate shipping. Let me know if you're interested, would like more information, or if you have any other part ideas. Off or on list, doesn't matter to me. Thanks for your time and inbox space, Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
Yep, you got it. One person asked for one in my services advert thread, then another, and I decided to make it a customizable product. Some people want one for a remote aftermarket head, some want 2 in order to relocate the stock housing for ease of access to the IP internals, or for clearance, etc. Personally, I'd use two with the OEM filter housing and lengths of hydraulic hose with proper field-install fittings for AN or JIC flares, and a low-pressure hose clamp and barb setup for the bypass line. I really don't have any recommendations for a filter head kit, having never used one, but the people on the forum could likely help if you bugged em. Hope that helps, Walt On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > OK, I'm lost in space. What exactly is being offered? > > If I read it right, you are making a plate that attaches to the engine in > lieu of the original mount for the oil filter. I assume one would then run > some form of aftermarket oil filter relocation setup to move the filter onto > the inner fender. The purpose being to provide more space near the engine > and perhaps to make it easier to change the oil and use a more conventional > screw on filter. > > Did I get it right? > > If so, what are you recommending for the relocation kit and what filter > would you run? > > Randy > > On 19/02/2011 6:20 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> As mentioned in another listmail, I'm tooling up to do a run of filter >> relocation plates for the OM617, for those that either want to move >> the stock housing or switch to a different housing/filter combination. >> >> The idea started over on the SuperTurboDiesel.com forums, in reply to >> my services advertisement, and there's a thread with more info and a >> few photo's of the prototype at the following link. >> >> http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/fs-custom-billet-oil-filter-relocation-plates-t-2281.html >> >> The short run-down is, they'll be 1/2" thick and contoured to fit, all >> mounting holes drilled, and with your choice of hole size and >> treatment for the inlet, outlet, and optionally bypass line or >> turbo/gauge feed ports. >> Price is $25 per-plate with 5.50 flat-rate shipping. >> >> Let me know if you're interested, would like more information, or if >> you have any other part ideas. Off or on list, doesn't matter to me. >> >> Thanks for your time and inbox space, >> >> Walt >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 Maintanence
Had a interesting challenge today - removed the plastic lower door panels for painting and decided to remove the rocker panels also - on the drivers side I found a 6"x6"x6" compartment at the leading edge of the rocker (immediately behind the front wheel) - mine was full of leaves which had turned to mulch! Some leaves remained of course but it was a mess getting it all out. The only way to get the jun out was through three 1/2" holes! Seems MB would have provided a easily opened clean-out panel to clean that stuff out. It was at the base of the windshield rain drain which naturally gets filled with leaves. Took a while to clean out using picks, screwdrivers, air and finally the garden hose to flush out the little stuff - and I found some signs of surface rust which I guess made it a worthwhile project... So now I get to treat the surfaces and hopefully stop the rust (wishful thinking) but maybe I'll get lucky. LarryT 91 300D Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 oil filter relocation plates for sale.
OK, I'm lost in space. What exactly is being offered? If I read it right, you are making a plate that attaches to the engine in lieu of the original mount for the oil filter. I assume one would then run some form of aftermarket oil filter relocation setup to move the filter onto the inner fender. The purpose being to provide more space near the engine and perhaps to make it easier to change the oil and use a more conventional screw on filter. Did I get it right? If so, what are you recommending for the relocation kit and what filter would you run? Randy On 19/02/2011 6:20 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Hello all, As mentioned in another listmail, I'm tooling up to do a run of filter relocation plates for the OM617, for those that either want to move the stock housing or switch to a different housing/filter combination. The idea started over on the SuperTurboDiesel.com forums, in reply to my services advertisement, and there's a thread with more info and a few photo's of the prototype at the following link. http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/fs-custom-billet-oil-filter-relocation-plates-t-2281.html The short run-down is, they'll be 1/2" thick and contoured to fit, all mounting holes drilled, and with your choice of hole size and treatment for the inlet, outlet, and optionally bypass line or turbo/gauge feed ports. Price is $25 per-plate with 5.50 flat-rate shipping. Let me know if you're interested, would like more information, or if you have any other part ideas. Off or on list, doesn't matter to me. Thanks for your time and inbox space, Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
I turned many a bolt and screw on B-47E aircraft. 'Never used a torque wrench. Maybe I was just lucky on that point, or maybe I just never heard about the mess I left behind when I went off to be an "ocifer"and fly B-52's. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off Good! If you only end up with one 6mm bolt broken off, I would suggest that it won't have a big impact if you leave it that way. As for torque. you really don't need a torque wrench for 6mm bolts. If you put your thumb around the rachet and tighten the bolt as tight as you can with your thumb in that position, you can't over torque a 6mm DIN bolt. It will be 20-25 ft-lb. I would never use a torque wrench on 6mm or smaller bolts. Thanks for the optimism Don. :> Last night I took Max's kick-in-the-pants and spun the front one mostly out with a punch; it had enough resistance on the broken nub of the bolt to spin it, and the bolt was about flush with the bottom edge of the pan before I was interrupted by Scouts. I anticipate no problem getting that one out. I am expecting (hoping?) that the same thing works on the back one, and I can replace bolts, check everything one last time, and fill with oil this evening. Thanks all, -Tim a little excited at the prospect of all three cars running at the same time On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, OK Don wrote: I think you might need to remove the pan to get to the broken bolts --- On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Tim C wrote: So... I finally "finished" the SDL's oil pan, after the poor thing sitting all winter today was a nice shiny day - high of 73 - so I was able to put the new pan on. As I was taking my last pass around the bolts to make sure everything was tight, I broke the head off one of the bolts into the block, way up on the long side of the pan. Then I continued around and did it again, on the opposite corner (at least it's near the front where I can reach it)! So... guess I had some weakened bolts, or else my torque wrench isn't what it used to be. What's a good way to get the remainder of the bolts out? I need something that can reach about 8 inches up, for the one. These are fairly small bolts (10mm head), I assume normal steel. Since I don't have it quite right, I can't, you know, get the satisfaction of driving the car... but at least I think the big part is done. :) Thanks for the tips whenever it was that I actually broke the thing; it turns out the pan had cracked almost in half before, and been JB Welded back together, so I am glad in retrospect that I did the right thing and replaced it. A few notes for future folks doing the job: - You can avoid taking off the steering linkage in the 126, but it takes some wiggling to get the pan off. [You will see, the shock is an inch or two higher than the cross-member; that was the hangup.] If you want to leave the suspension intact, you will have to raise the engine higher than the engine shocks will allow while connected, I just let them dangle and then guided them into the holes while lowering the engine. All told I think that was easier than moving the linkage and leaving the shocks connected, but it is a personal preference. :) - I will never again use gasket sealant when I can avoid it. It took three days (okay, maybe 6 or 8 hours of actual work) to get the old seal off my "new" part. - I think it would take me about 4-6 hours to do it again, if I had all the time at once. As it was, I took two one-hour blocks to get tools etc. ready and do a little exploratory work, five hours getting the original pan out, and four more putting it back in, not counting seal removal from the new pan. All of these included tool get-out and put-up time. I am also, as you may guess, fairly slow, and then there is the whole "haven't looked at the car in a month" effect between iterations, so YMMV. - You might want to be a little cautious in tightening the bolts! Thanks, -Tim -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe o
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > Now you've got me wondering if my '87, which has an annoyingly visible wiper > sweep, is suffering from Rain-X smear (even though I've never applied it to > that > car and I've replace the blade several times). > I would try (in order): - cleaning the windshield and blade with a mildly abrasive cleanser (I use Bon Ami because of BMW legend that says the company issued an official service bulletin recommending it at some point) - cleaning the windshield with a grease-cutting solvent with a high flash point (lacquer thinner, acetone, etc.), then rinsing with dish soap (don't get either on the paint if you can help it)! - replacing the wiper arm. Still available as a new part from M-B, or at least it was a few years ago when I replaced the one on my '87 300D. The spring inside gets tired and doesn't hold the blade as hard against the glass as it's meant to. Also, when you say you've replaced the blade, do you mean the metal part or just the rubber refill? The former wears out as well. All this made a huge difference in wiper performance on the '87. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 vacuum locking question
The vacuum locking system on the 1985 300CD leaks down in about 4 hours after locking the car. Opening the master (driver's door) lock does not result in opening any other door. (exception: when the vacuum is lost, the gas flap opens automatically). I have not pinpointed the source of the leak but suspect it's the oldest vacuum element in the car - the trunk lock servo. This morning, I opened the master lock and went back to the (still locked) trunk to open it manually by inserting the key in the lock, turning it clockwise and pushing in the button simultaneously. The trunk sprung open as expected, but what I did NOT expect was that it REMAINED unlocked afterwards even though the vacuum power had already dissipated. Can someone explain this? Andrew 1985 300TD 1985 300TD 1985 SWMBO 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Wilton you're a good sport for accepting all this guff. OK List Folk, is there someone here who does advocate waxing car windows? -Max From: WILTON To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 1:40:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today Yes, we did it. I can not tell a lie. We wiped Air Force alert vehicles (4-door crew cab pickups) down with Diesel fuel in lieu of laborious wax jobs. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today > Sorry if I'm mis-attributing. I've been known to mis-remember a thing or > two. > > At least I didn't wipe the car down with diesel fuel and call it done, and > I'm > SURE that is a story you did tell! > > -Max > > > > > > From: WILTON > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 9:27:32 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today > > I must be getting Alzheimer's; 'don't remember ever waxing windows on a > car. > 'Used RainX coupla times on windshield of my 81 300D 7 or 8 years ago, > though. That worked pretty good. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Max Dillon" > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 1:59 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today > > >> We're enjoying some very nice weather, about 75 with a nice breeze and >> sun, >> so time to get outside. Washed and waxed Blue (the '95), and decided to >> try >> out Wilton's trick of waxing the windows along with the rest of the car. >> The windshield, which is new, really seemed to absorb the wax (didn't >> haze >> that much with just one coat), but the side and rear windows hazed over >> nicely. I'm sure the rain performance will be improved, but I'd like to >> wait at least a week or two before I find out! >> >> >> >> Hard to believe I've owned the car for 1.5 years / 5000 miles and this is >> the first time I've washed and waxed it. >> >> >> >> Very respectfully, >> /s/ >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD 333k miles >> >> '95 E300 280k miles >> >> '73 Balboa 20 >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Yes, we did it. I can not tell a lie. We wiped Air Force alert vehicles (4-door crew cab pickups) down with Diesel fuel in lieu of laborious wax jobs. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today Sorry if I'm mis-attributing. I've been known to mis-remember a thing or two. At least I didn't wipe the car down with diesel fuel and call it done, and I'm SURE that is a story you did tell! -Max From: WILTON To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 9:27:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today I must be getting Alzheimer's; 'don't remember ever waxing windows on a car. 'Used RainX coupla times on windshield of my 81 300D 7 or 8 years ago, though. That worked pretty good. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today We're enjoying some very nice weather, about 75 with a nice breeze and sun, so time to get outside. Washed and waxed Blue (the '95), and decided to try out Wilton's trick of waxing the windows along with the rest of the car. The windshield, which is new, really seemed to absorb the wax (didn't haze that much with just one coat), but the side and rear windows hazed over nicely. I'm sure the rain performance will be improved, but I'd like to wait at least a week or two before I find out! Hard to believe I've owned the car for 1.5 years / 5000 miles and this is the first time I've washed and waxed it. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
So when are you going to buy a welder? -Max From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 1:01:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out The bracket is not up to the task, at least the ones I have replaced on the SD. The most recent one I got from our esteemed lister/supplier was cheap chinee crap but can probably be fixed with some stout metal. I think the problem is sort of a design issue along with a marginal part (per the design) The air cleaner is pretty heavy and sits cantilevered out quite a ways on the bracket, and the engine, and hence AC shakes quite a bit, and that bending moment/flexing with that weight hanging out there just destroys a poorly-designed/manufactured part and general arrangement. --R On 2/22/2011 12:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > 300SD Air Cleaner "Fix". Does this require bracing welded to the factory > bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap >between > air cleaner and valve cover? > > -Max > > > > > > From: Bill Ringgold > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out > > My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a > piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air > breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. > Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it > cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. > I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow > before I am ready to give it a try. > Bill R > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Tim C > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out > > So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to "listen" while you are away? It > sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, > so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able > to beat it. > > I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like "pause"? Or a > setting for max record time before going idle? > > Best, > Tim > Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn > On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, "Bill Ringgold" wrote: > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Now you've got me wondering if my '87, which has an annoyingly visible wiper sweep, is suffering from Rain-X smear (even though I've never applied it to that car and I've replace the blade several times). -Max From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:52:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today More than anything else it will ruin your visibility in rain, it will smear something horrible as the wax starts to wear. Won't do the wiper blades any good, either, and it's impossible to get the wax off them, you will need to replace them. Peter, who has a very smeary windshield thanks to the PO and rain-x. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear links, phase II
What about the other two links? On both my '87 and my '95, the outer joint for the spring link (the lowest) was in the worst condition. I found the inner bushing on the spring link to be really tough without a press. -Max From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:27:41 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rear links, phase II Finally go the three links replaced on the right side of the 300D tonight. Much nicer when it's above freezing in the garage, eh? Drives much better, but the creaking and groaning is still there -- separated subframe mounts that I'll have to deal with sometime when I have a long weekend. I've got them, just have to get the car up on stands and lower the subframe and pull them out. Should make for a better ride, too! It does drive straight now, no wander and doesn't seem to want to drift around like it did. Links are in pretty bad shape, rubber is all crunchy. Since I just bought a bee hive kit and a new vacuum (to me, it's a used Filter Queen) I'll not be buying stuff for the car until May or June, when I intend to do the evaporator and revive the AC. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Max Dillon wrote: Sorry if I'm mis-attributing. I've been known to mis-remember a thing or two. At least I didn't wipe the car down with diesel fuel and call it done, and I'm SURE that is a story you did tell! I think that was the trucks at the air base. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
The bracket is not up to the task, at least the ones I have replaced on the SD. The most recent one I got from our esteemed lister/supplier was cheap chinee crap but can probably be fixed with some stout metal. I think the problem is sort of a design issue along with a marginal part (per the design) The air cleaner is pretty heavy and sits cantilevered out quite a ways on the bracket, and the engine, and hence AC shakes quite a bit, and that bending moment/flexing with that weight hanging out there just destroys a poorly-designed/manufactured part and general arrangement. --R On 2/22/2011 12:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 300SD Air Cleaner "Fix". Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgold To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to "listen" while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like "pause"? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, "Bill Ringgold" wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
Sorry if I'm mis-attributing. I've been known to mis-remember a thing or two. At least I didn't wipe the car down with diesel fuel and call it done, and I'm SURE that is a story you did tell! -Max From: WILTON To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 9:27:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today I must be getting Alzheimer's; 'don't remember ever waxing windows on a car. 'Used RainX coupla times on windshield of my 81 300D 7 or 8 years ago, though. That worked pretty good. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today > We're enjoying some very nice weather, about 75 with a nice breeze and > sun, > so time to get outside. Washed and waxed Blue (the '95), and decided to > try > out Wilton's trick of waxing the windows along with the rest of the car. > The windshield, which is new, really seemed to absorb the wax (didn't haze > that much with just one coat), but the side and rear windows hazed over > nicely. I'm sure the rain performance will be improved, but I'd like to > wait at least a week or two before I find out! > > > > Hard to believe I've owned the car for 1.5 years / 5000 miles and this is > the first time I've washed and waxed it. > > > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD 333k miles > > '95 E300 280k miles > > '73 Balboa 20 > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
Glad to hear you're 50% done! Double check the book torque values, and your wrench, and if you don't find anything wrong, then probably back off about 25% so you don't break off any more. You can always tighten a little, check for leaks, tighten some more as needed, and get it right with no toque wrench required (but more time and a little oil and mess). -Max From: Tim C To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:48:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off Thanks for the optimism Don. :> Last night I took Max's kick-in-the-pants and spun the front one mostly out with a punch; it had enough resistance on the broken nub of the bolt to spin it, and the bolt was about flush with the bottom edge of the pan before I was interrupted by Scouts. I anticipate no problem getting that one out. I am expecting (hoping?) that the same thing works on the back one, and I can replace bolts, check everything one last time, and fill with oil this evening. Thanks all, -Tim a little excited at the prospect of all three cars running at the same time On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, OK Don wrote: > I think you might need to remove the pan to get to the broken bolts --- > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Tim C wrote: > >> So... I finally "finished" the SDL's oil pan, after the poor thing >> sitting all winter today was a nice shiny day - high of 73 - so I was >> able to put the new pan on. >> >> As I was taking my last pass around the bolts to make sure everything >> was tight, I broke the head off one of the bolts into the block, way >> up on the long side of the pan. Then I continued around and did it >> again, on the opposite corner (at least it's near the front where I >> can reach it)! So... guess I had some weakened bolts, or else my >> torque wrench isn't what it used to be. What's a good way to get the >> remainder of the bolts out? I need something that can reach about 8 >> inches up, for the one. These are fairly small bolts (10mm head), I >> assume normal steel. >> >> Since I don't have it quite right, I can't, you know, get the >> satisfaction of driving the car... but at least I think the big part >> is done. :) Thanks for the tips whenever it was that I actually broke >> the thing; it turns out the pan had cracked almost in half before, and >> been JB Welded back together, so I am glad in retrospect that I did >> the right thing and replaced it. >> >> A few notes for future folks doing the job: >> - You can avoid taking off the steering linkage in the 126, but it >> takes some wiggling to get the pan off. [You will see, the shock is an >> inch or two higher than the cross-member; that was the hangup.] If you >> want to leave the suspension intact, you will have to raise the engine >> higher than the engine shocks will allow while connected, I just let >> them dangle and then guided them into the holes while lowering the >> engine. All told I think that was easier than moving the linkage and >> leaving the shocks connected, but it is a personal preference. :) >> >> - I will never again use gasket sealant when I can avoid it. It took >> three days (okay, maybe 6 or 8 hours of actual work) to get the old >> seal off my "new" part. >> >> - I think it would take me about 4-6 hours to do it again, if I had >> all the time at once. As it was, I took two one-hour blocks to get >> tools etc. ready and do a little exploratory work, five hours getting >> the original pan out, and four more putting it back in, not counting >> seal removal from the new pan. All of these included tool get-out and >> put-up time. I am also, as you may guess, fairly slow, and then there >> is the whole "haven't looked at the car in a month" effect between >> iterations, so YMMV. >> >> - You might want to be a little cautious in tightening the bolts! >> >> Thanks, >> -Tim -- >> > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out
300SD Air Cleaner "Fix". Does this require bracing welded to the factory bracket, or a rubber donut mounted to the side of the air cleaner in gap between air cleaner and valve cover? -Max From: Bill Ringgold To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out My 300SD tends to do it own thing also, but is amazingly quieter with a piece of high density foam zip tied to the hose on the top of the air breather. I have to get that air filter brace repaired about once a year. Dragon does a good job of verbal commands, and 'go to sleep' will stop it cold - unless I am in the dead zone awaiting it to start processing again. I've made a few changes to the system and program, but it will be tomorrow before I am ready to give it a try. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A computer problem I can't figure out So, it sounds like Dragon is trying to "listen" while you are away? It sounds like performance isn't a bottleneck until Dragon eats all your RAM, so maybe it's just recording dead air. If that's so, you will never be able to beat it. I've not used Dragon, is there a way to pass it commands like "pause"? Or a setting for max record time before going idle? Best, Tim Who tried telling his 300D what to do, but it is stubborn On Feb 19, 2011 7:42 PM, "Bill Ringgold" wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
Good! If you only end up with one 6mm bolt broken off, I would suggest that it won't have a big impact if you leave it that way. As for torque. you really don't need a torque wrench for 6mm bolts. If you put your thumb around the rachet and tighten the bolt as tight as you can with your thumb in that position, you can't over torque a 6mm DIN bolt. It will be 20-25 ft-lb. I would never use a torque wrench on 6mm or smaller bolts. Thanks for the optimism Don. :> Last night I took Max's kick-in-the-pants and spun the front one mostly out with a punch; it had enough resistance on the broken nub of the bolt to spin it, and the bolt was about flush with the bottom edge of the pan before I was interrupted by Scouts. I anticipate no problem getting that one out. I am expecting (hoping?) that the same thing works on the back one, and I can replace bolts, check everything one last time, and fill with oil this evening. Thanks all, -Tim a little excited at the prospect of all three cars running at the same time On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, OK Don wrote: I think you might need to remove the pan to get to the broken bolts --- On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Tim C wrote: So... I finally "finished" the SDL's oil pan, after the poor thing sitting all winter today was a nice shiny day - high of 73 - so I was able to put the new pan on. As I was taking my last pass around the bolts to make sure everything was tight, I broke the head off one of the bolts into the block, way up on the long side of the pan. Then I continued around and did it again, on the opposite corner (at least it's near the front where I can reach it)! So... guess I had some weakened bolts, or else my torque wrench isn't what it used to be. What's a good way to get the remainder of the bolts out? I need something that can reach about 8 inches up, for the one. These are fairly small bolts (10mm head), I assume normal steel. Since I don't have it quite right, I can't, you know, get the satisfaction of driving the car... but at least I think the big part is done. :) Thanks for the tips whenever it was that I actually broke the thing; it turns out the pan had cracked almost in half before, and been JB Welded back together, so I am glad in retrospect that I did the right thing and replaced it. A few notes for future folks doing the job: - You can avoid taking off the steering linkage in the 126, but it takes some wiggling to get the pan off. [You will see, the shock is an inch or two higher than the cross-member; that was the hangup.] If you want to leave the suspension intact, you will have to raise the engine higher than the engine shocks will allow while connected, I just let them dangle and then guided them into the holes while lowering the engine. All told I think that was easier than moving the linkage and leaving the shocks connected, but it is a personal preference. :) - I will never again use gasket sealant when I can avoid it. It took three days (okay, maybe 6 or 8 hours of actual work) to get the old seal off my "new" part. - I think it would take me about 4-6 hours to do it again, if I had all the time at once. As it was, I took two one-hour blocks to get tools etc. ready and do a little exploratory work, five hours getting the original pan out, and four more putting it back in, not counting seal removal from the new pan. All of these included tool get-out and put-up time. I am also, as you may guess, fairly slow, and then there is the whole "haven't looked at the car in a month" effect between iterations, so YMMV. - You might want to be a little cautious in tightening the bolts! Thanks, -Tim -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL Oil Pan, now heads falling off
Thanks for the optimism Don. :> Last night I took Max's kick-in-the-pants and spun the front one mostly out with a punch; it had enough resistance on the broken nub of the bolt to spin it, and the bolt was about flush with the bottom edge of the pan before I was interrupted by Scouts. I anticipate no problem getting that one out. I am expecting (hoping?) that the same thing works on the back one, and I can replace bolts, check everything one last time, and fill with oil this evening. Thanks all, -Tim a little excited at the prospect of all three cars running at the same time On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, OK Don wrote: > I think you might need to remove the pan to get to the broken bolts --- > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Tim C wrote: > >> So... I finally "finished" the SDL's oil pan, after the poor thing >> sitting all winter today was a nice shiny day - high of 73 - so I was >> able to put the new pan on. >> >> As I was taking my last pass around the bolts to make sure everything >> was tight, I broke the head off one of the bolts into the block, way >> up on the long side of the pan. Then I continued around and did it >> again, on the opposite corner (at least it's near the front where I >> can reach it)! So... guess I had some weakened bolts, or else my >> torque wrench isn't what it used to be. What's a good way to get the >> remainder of the bolts out? I need something that can reach about 8 >> inches up, for the one. These are fairly small bolts (10mm head), I >> assume normal steel. >> >> Since I don't have it quite right, I can't, you know, get the >> satisfaction of driving the car... but at least I think the big part >> is done. :) Thanks for the tips whenever it was that I actually broke >> the thing; it turns out the pan had cracked almost in half before, and >> been JB Welded back together, so I am glad in retrospect that I did >> the right thing and replaced it. >> >> A few notes for future folks doing the job: >> - You can avoid taking off the steering linkage in the 126, but it >> takes some wiggling to get the pan off. [You will see, the shock is an >> inch or two higher than the cross-member; that was the hangup.] If you >> want to leave the suspension intact, you will have to raise the engine >> higher than the engine shocks will allow while connected, I just let >> them dangle and then guided them into the holes while lowering the >> engine. All told I think that was easier than moving the linkage and >> leaving the shocks connected, but it is a personal preference. :) >> >> - I will never again use gasket sealant when I can avoid it. It took >> three days (okay, maybe 6 or 8 hours of actual work) to get the old >> seal off my "new" part. >> >> - I think it would take me about 4-6 hours to do it again, if I had >> all the time at once. As it was, I took two one-hour blocks to get >> tools etc. ready and do a little exploratory work, five hours getting >> the original pan out, and four more putting it back in, not counting >> seal removal from the new pan. All of these included tool get-out and >> put-up time. I am also, as you may guess, fairly slow, and then there >> is the whole "haven't looked at the car in a month" effect between >> iterations, so YMMV. >> >> - You might want to be a little cautious in tightening the bolts! >> >> Thanks, >> -Tim -- >> > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
