Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks, will let you know how this repair attempt turns out.  I may yet need a 
RR, I have a spare LR and LF.

I found this thread on Benzworld that ties all the pieces together:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1332991-kajtek1-window-regulator-question.html


Pictures show that 201, 124, and 210 rear window regulators all use the same 
sliding jaw, and the replacement sliding jaw for front windows on 210's, part 
number 210 720 00 42, has the critical plastic part in common.  One must remove 
the metal plate from the old part and install that on the new sliding jaw, and 
then put all the pieces together.  Tricky part will be getting the lift/lower 
cable ends back in their little metal cage and home in the appropriate slot in 
the plastic piece.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 2:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

I have a spare LR Regulator, and I neglected to take the RF and RR 
out of the junk car that went away.  Had them loose, but never got 
them out.  I have another 124 rear regulator.  Let me see if I can 
find it.  If it is a RR I will sell it or trade it for one to be sent 
at a later date.  I think I know where the odd one is.



Thanks Larry, but I did get it off shortly after I posted the question.

I found the plastic guide in pieces, cables flopping around inside the door. 
I'm trying to figure out if I can purchase a new plastic piece for 
$12 or so vs.
a new regulator assembly for $140 or more.

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net
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Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 7:23:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

this may be a little late but I can email you the relevant pages of the WSM
showing the door panel removal if you'd like?

LarryT

-Original Message- From: Max Dillon
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 2:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 124 door panels

Do they lift up first, or pop off the bottom first? Also how does the trim
around the inside door handle come off?

I'm out in town with family, RR window just made a bad noise and 
stopped moving
about three quarters of the way shut.

Max
-- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Excellent!  Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and 
recharge?

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD.  It was 
even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the 
vents.  I was impressed.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread John Reames
Thermodynamics in a nutshell:
-You can't win.
-You can't break even.
-It's the only game (and you have to play it).

--
John W Reames
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Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On Jun 20, 2011, at 21:57, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sorry, no. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only its form 
 changed, thats your first law of thermodynamics that is.
 
 To get hydrogen will always take more energy than said hydrogen is worth. 
 Good oil will always contain more energy than it took to get it. That said 
 we're running short on really good oil.
 
 
 As an aside I'm working on a short post apocalyptic movie that highlights 
 plastic reclamation (ie digging it out of garbage dumps) to turn into oil 
 once oil is impossible (because its gone or the technology to get it is gone) 
 to get.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:50:59 -0700
 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT
 Message-ID: BANLkTikrqr7cUnD=evsco2xxrgdpxcs...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Hydrogen for this test program was supplied from large tanks from Air-liquid
 who is/was a major hydrogen supplier for the space program [rockets use
 hydrogen fuel... lots of it].
 
 The hydrogen was extracted either from water process using electric current
 or extracted from free air I believe.
 
 The argument can be raised that it takes more energy to crack water than the
 hydrogen returns, however argument can also be raised that if research was
 devoted to the process a better system could/would be found to produce
 hydrogen.
 
 Nothing is free, even free oil coming out of the ground costs money to
 capture and make into diesel/gas.  Cheap always wins, except in girlfriends
 and quality.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer
An old remedy was to eat a lot of garlic, although I've never tried it. 
Supposedly the bugs leave you alone and sometimes wife, kids, friends and 
total strangers will also leave you alone.

Gerry
--
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Funny you should ask...
We were at camp a couple weeks ago and the bugs were AWFUL. Angie had 
picked up a bottle of this stuff: http://www.ecoblends.com/
Usually the non-deet stuff is just citronella and is dubiously useful, 
this stuff when I took the cap off a cloud of bugs that had been hanging 
around me instantly dissipated. Even my Dad was surprised.
Its wicked oily (mostly soy oil as a carrier) but absorbs into your skin 
rapidly, smells mostly of geraniums (geranium oil is a component) and 
works good for a few hours at a time. It doesn't need to be washed off, or 
rather it doesn't leave you feeling like you need to wash off once its had 
time to absorb.

-Curt

From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
Does anyone know of a bug repellent that works well and doesn't contain 
DEET?

Rick



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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Tim C
On Jun 20, 2011 10:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Agreed. I think its air conditioning that makes people weak.

Spoken like a true Northerner. :)

 I can't imagine what it was like without AC.

Porches, siestas, fans, and sweet iced tea.  Long lunch breaks.   And airy
hats of course.

If you visit some of the older Southern working-class houses, you will see a
lot of the open air and covered porch action that is popular in green
construction now.  Small kitchen with an outside door, rising ceilings with
the highest in a wide/long hallway, open eaves, thick interior doors...

It is interesting how much of Southern culture was just reacting to the
different environment, I assume the same is true everywhere though I've
never studied it.

 Here however we'll use our AC maybe 10 days total this summer and most of
those we'll shut it off before bed.

Likewise, I haven't bothered to fix the heat on the 300D; I use the Harbor
Freight electric heater to defrost but it just doesn't get that cold.

Yesterday it was 90something, my daughter just walked in wearing a lined
coat and sweater since it is only high 70s.  I guess if you grow up in it
you get used to it.

Best,
-Tim
Son of Yankees
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes 
got really bad.  Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard.  We were 
catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went 
down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.  We were 
in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip 
the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests.  We thought that was 
pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and 
feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull.  They started sticking 
their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out 
of 
the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't 
pull them back out.  After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, 
the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and 
carry it away.  We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly 
underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night.  Never did 
find 
that boat.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Soap and water will help find that leak quickly.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:04:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

They work fine IF the condenser is clean and there is no air in the system (and 
no leaks, of course).  My 300D was so cold in the highway there was 
condensation 
blowing out the vents!

However, I still have a leak, I suspect in the condenser or the evaporator.  
I'm 
hoping condenser, as I heard a hiss up there.  Easier to replace.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas
When they carried it off to their nest the big uns came and took it away 
from them.


--R

On 6/21/11 7:55 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes
got really bad.  Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard.  We were
catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went
down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.  We were
in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip
the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests.  We thought that was
pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and
feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull.  They started sticking
their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of
the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't
pull them back out.  After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull,
the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and
carry it away.  We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly
underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night.  Never did find
that boat.

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
The rack position sensor plug has a base that rotates normal off direction by 
finger, but it may be really tight and not obvious.  That plug must come off to 
get the vacuum shut off valve off.  'Tis doable under the intake manifold, but 
if you pull the pump you could also do a complete re-seal at the same time and 
then not worry about the pump for another 100k miles.  Might also be able to 
get 
a clean shot at all the glow plugs with the pump out of the way.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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Charleston SC





From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:06:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off

Yeah, that is kind of what I am up to.   It is a lot easier to do on the IP 
core 
on the bench, than on the working one under the intake manifold.  I have been 
pondering buying a manifold gasket, but I think I will try taking off the ALDA 
and the electric plug, then pull the shutoff and see if anything is apparent.  
Since I have a working plastic shutoff, I may plug that in and see it if makes 
a 
difference, if nothing is apparent when I take out the old metal shutoff.


 Fred Moir wrote:
 Just a thought, if the metal shut-off vaccu-suck were to bind in its' slide, 
 it 
might cause the problem that you describe.
 
 I suppose Loren could remove the vacuum shutoff, and see if the shut-off, the 
hand stop lever, or neither has binding when they're apart. If the stop lever 
still binds, he's probably right in blaming the IP somewhere.
 
 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
The new thorium reactors look very interesting, but probably the no-nuke 
crowd will prevent them from seeing light of day here.  If Canada or Mexico 
were 
smart, they'd build the nuke plants and sell us the power.

Hey Rich, you habla spaniola, maybe we can form a business partnership to build 
nukes south of the border?  Now we really need to figure out who the nuke guy 
is 
on the list and get him on board...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
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Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:14:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT

Max wrote:
 Not me that works in a nuke plant, but nuke is the only way to go, in my 
opinion.

Eh... I was convinced to that point-of-view 38 years ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread rogerhga
Allan, 
Hey, I didn't write that about the electrical distribution system. I agree with 
you that in most big city areas hooking up a few hundred or thousand 220v 
electric cars would bring about brown outs or the need for rolling blackouts. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger Hale 
Monroe, Ga. 

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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Read the link; that guy has an excellent track record of turning his ideas into 
economically feasible ventures.  If he had something like what you describe, 
I'm 
sure it would be on the market now if viable.

Problem with solar is the energy density of sunlight is simply too low.  I 
think 
you only get about 3 or 4 watts per square meter, when the sun is shining, and 
that amount of power is not sufficient to do very much given our current energy 
requirements.  We're back to nuclear power again...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:31:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT

Curt wrote:
 On the news this morning they touted some solar panel company thats come up 
with some new manufacturing tech that is supposed to drive the cost way down 
which is apparently a game changer.


I remember a 1978 Newsweek article about a guy named Ovshinsky that
spoke about amorphous semiconductor materials.  That was gonna be the
game changer, described as paint one material on the side of the
house, paint another material on top of that, hook up wires, and away
you go.  The guy's company is still around but that system has not
happened, yet.  That is the game changer I want to see.
http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/ovshinsky.html
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
The county/state are also spraying a lot to kill them, same situation east of 
the Cooper.  I suspect the bird population has taken a big hit for lack of bugs 
to eat. 


Wish they'd develop sprays to kill the fire ants and the palmetto bugs...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:05:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent

There is a very interesting aspect to this mosquito discussion.  I live on the 
marsh, where mosquitoes should be thick as, I was gonna say flies but somehow 
that does not work, anyway, really really thick.  And the last 2 years they 
were 
pretty thick as expected.  This year however it has been so dry, I have seen 
maybe 4 mosquitoes since it got warm.  It rained a bit the other day for the 
first time in about 2 months, and I expect there to be a hatch any time of the 
buggers.  It is hard to decide whether the drought is good or bad since it has 
impeded the skeeter population.

--R

On 6/20/11 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 roger...@comcast.net wrote:
 Doesn't anyone have a car problem we can
 discuss or fix? Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga.
 
 Actually I thought about it and my question was on topic. Have you ever been 
working outside or in a less than hermetically sealed garage at night on your 
MB 
and been nearly carried away by mosquitos? Ever have them biting you on the 
face 
and neck and swat them dead with sooty, oily hands? :^)
 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread MG
Have you tried this with the rod going from the pump to the rest 
of the accelerator linkage disconnected? That would eliminate any 
chance of a problem in the rods and joints of the 
accelerator/cruise control setup. I know from experience that 
mis-adjustment or incorrect positioning of the rods or lengths 
will cause slight to total binding.


Manfred


Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:33:59 -0500
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

Yassir!  I have a question.  How come the rack in my OM603 IP takes
too much pressure to move to the OFF (no fuel ) position?  See the
thread on to vacuum for the background, but it is getting spec
vacuum at the shutoff, The shutoff does not leak.  It is a metal can
on top, so it is not leaky plastic by the nipple.  The shutoff and
vacuum system holds vacuum for days with the engine off.


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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
There was a good article in the WSJ a few years ago, several states got bitten 
bad with lease agreements and subsidies, only to find out they ended up paying 
the leases, paying for electricity to keep the generators turning when the wind 
didn't blow, and when the subsidy ran out it was a money loosing proposition.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:13:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT

That's a new one on me.  I was out in Medicine Bow, Wyoming some years ago 
getting up close and personal with one of the largest wind turbines ever built, 
at a test site there. It was a 5MW Hamilton Standard machine, 250ft rotor 
diameter with the hub sitting 250ft up.  They told the story that during 
construction, someone got the wires crossed on the thing, and someone else got 
the meter wires crossed too (a compound error that canceled out the fail safe). 
 
So when they first fired the thing up (so to speak) they started drawing power 
instead of generating power, and were quite happy to see it got up to 5MW right 
quick in a pretty low breeze.  Then they were even more surprised to see it get 
to 6.5MW and thought wow, this thing is working better than we expected!  Then 
the phone rings, and it is the Bonneville Power Authority wondering what the 
hell they were doing to be drawing a 6.5MW load all the sudden.  All the sudden 
someone realizes it was running as a giant fan not a windmill, and hit the big 
red button real fast.  Someone outside watching it wondered why the blades were 
bending the wrong direction too.  It was a good smoke test though, and proved 
the design better than the tests they had planned.  Go figger.

I have some pictures of the thing and me up on top of it (20F, 25kt wind).

--R

On 6/20/11 9:23 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 All the big wind generators have a motor feature to keep the blades turning 
when the wind isn't strong enough to do the job, because the high wind speed 
required to get them spinning doesn't happen often enough.  Basically you have 
to spend some electricity to make some.  Long calm spell?  Wind farm will 
consume lots of electricity to get through it.  In other words, we can't even 
predict the weather, let alone the climate, but that is another discussion...
 
 Max
 
 Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 
 
 We've recently (well since last fall anyway) gotten 5 big (1.65MW)
 windmills in our area. I'm constantly amazed by how little wind it
 takes them to turn. I'm sure they're not making much power when they're
 just barely turning though...
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Well, perhaps the technology has advanced or better designs are out there, or 
maybe I shouldn't believe everything I read and make sweeping generalizations...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:14:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT

I'd heard that for horizontal blades but not big conventional type ones. I 
don't 
think thats the case here as sometimes in the morning when I go to work theres 
no wind and they'll be stopped, there are 2 right off my commute, on my way 
home 
they'll be spinning again.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:23:23 -0400
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All the big wind generators have a motor feature to keep the blades turning 
when 
the wind isn't strong enough to do the job, because the high wind speed 
required 
to get them spinning doesn't happen often enough.  Basically you have to spend 
some electricity to make some.  Long calm spell?  Wind farm will consume lots 
of 
electricity to get through it.  In other words, we can't even predict the 
weather, let alone the climate, but that is another discussion...

Max

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


We've recently (well since last fall anyway) gotten 5 big (1.65MW)
windmills in our area. I'm constantly amazed by how little wind it
takes them to turn. I'm sure they're not making much power when they're
just barely turning though..

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Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible

2011-06-21 Thread Dieselhead
Oops!  I thought yours was a convertible, andrew.   As for the 
picture, the 110 and 111 have fins, and the 111 has a chrome strip on 
the back.  The 112 300 SE/SEL had the fins rounded off as in the 
photo, with no chrome on the back of the fins.  The 112 is one of the 
most beautiful MBs ever built.  THe car in the photo may well be a 
factory convertible. (cabriolet in french)




It's the w111 body style, or W112 for the rare 300SE coupe or cab with  air
suspension.  I owned  a 280SE 3.5 coupe for 20 years; sold it last July.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 That appears to be a 300SE or SEL  112 body.  It is basically a fin car,
 but it has the fins rounded.  The factory made cabriolets in the pontons,
 adenauers, and Fin Cars.  I thought andrew has or had a factory cabriolet.



  Is this custom? Or were these convertibles actually stock? I don't know.


 I have three more photos of the car if anyone wants to see them.

 Just ran across this beauty as i rode my bicycle back from the store.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible - perhaps

2011-06-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
What are the warning signs?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 This one appears to be a chop job, just doesn't quite look right, people
 have been duped, thinking they are buying a factory convertible but are
 actually buying a cut up coupe. Saw one of these a few months ago at a car
 dealer.

 Hendrik
 with no chop job

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 It's the w111 body style, or W112 for the rare 300SE coupe or cab with
  air
 suspension.  I owned  a 280SE 3.5 coupe for 20 years; sold it last July.

 On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:



 That appears to be a 300SE or SEL  112 body.  It is basically a fin car,
 but it has the fins rounded.  The factory made cabriolets in the pontons,
 adenauers, and Fin Cars.  I thought andrew has or had a factory
 cabriolet.



  Is this custom? Or were these convertibles actually stock? I don't know.


 I have three more photos of the car if anyone wants to see them.

 Just ran across this beauty as i rode my bicycle back from the store.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Dieselhead
Nope, but will try that.  The rods are un-messed-with, so I doubt any 
have changed length.  But binding in the linkage somewhere could have 
an influence.   I was thinking that I needed to check the ball 
sockets for plastic and replace any plastic with steel boll sockets 
anyway.



Have you tried this with the rod going from the pump to the rest of 
the accelerator linkage disconnected? That would eliminate any 
chance of a problem in the rods and joints of the accelerator/cruise 
control setup. I know from experience that mis-adjustment or 
incorrect positioning of the rods or lengths will cause slight to 
total binding.


Manfred


Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:33:59 -0500
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

Yassir!  I have a question.  How come the rack in my OM603 IP takes
too much pressure to move to the OFF (no fuel ) position?  See the
thread on to vacuum for the background, but it is getting spec
vacuum at the shutoff, The shutoff does not leak.  It is a metal can
on top, so it is not leaky plastic by the nipple.  The shutoff and
vacuum system holds vacuum for days with the engine off.


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Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off

2011-06-21 Thread Dieselhead
No NO NO  There is no way I will take off a IP just to change the 
shutoff.  I might take the intake manifold off, but it is quicker to 
change the shutoff with the manifold on.



The rack position sensor plug has a base that rotates normal off 
direction by
finger, but it may be really tight and not obvious.  That plug must 
come off to

get the vacuum shut off valve off.  'Tis doable under the intake manifold, but
if you pull the pump you could also do a complete re-seal at the same time and
then not worry about the pump for another 100k miles.  Might also be 
able to get

a clean shot at all the glow plugs with the pump out of the way.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:06:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off

Yeah, that is kind of what I am up to.   It is a lot easier to do on 
the IP core

on the bench, than on the working one under the intake manifold.  I have been
pondering buying a manifold gasket, but I think I will try taking off the ALDA
and the electric plug, then pull the shutoff and see if anything is apparent. 
Since I have a working plastic shutoff, I may plug that in and see 
it if makes a

difference, if nothing is apparent when I take out the old metal shutoff.



 Fred Moir wrote:
 Just a thought, if the metal shut-off vaccu-suck were to bind in 
its' slide, it

might cause the problem that you describe.


 I suppose Loren could remove the vacuum shutoff, and see if the 
shut-off, the

hand stop lever, or neither has binding when they're apart. If the stop lever
still binds, he's probably right in blaming the IP somewhere.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:

Problem with solar is the energy density of sunlight is simply too low.  I think 
you only get about 3 or 4 watts per square meter, when the sun is shining, and 
that amount of power is not sufficient to do very much given our current energy 
requirements.  We're back to nuclear power again...


Average over the entire planet, including the parts that are totally dark, is 
supposed to be around 164 W/m^2.


I think solar panel rates watts are based on insolation of 1kW/m^2.

From Wiki:
Over the course of a year the average solar radiation arriving at the top of the 
Earth's atmosphere is roughly 1,366 watts per square meter[2][3] (see solar 
constant). The radiant power is distributed across the entire electromagnetic 
spectrum, although most of the power is in the visible light portion of the 
spectrum. The Sun's rays are attenuated as they pass though the atmosphere, thus 
reducing the insolation at the Earth's surface to approximately 1,000 watts per 
square meter for a surface perpendicular to the Sun's rays at sea level on a 
clear day.


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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas
No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the job 
right.  I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it was 
enough to get it to BLOW ICE COLD.


--R

On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

Excellent!  Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and
recharge?

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
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From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD.  It was
even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the
vents.  I was impressed.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I speak Suthrun and learning Gullah, I think we should build them South 
of the Border in SC, we have Savannah River, all them squids up there in 
the Navy who know that nukular stuff, and already produce about 2/3 of 
our power here from nukes.  Let's get Nikki to build a bunch more and 
sell power to the Yankees and charge them lots of money for it.


--R

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Hey Rich, you habla spaniola, maybe we can form a business partnership to build
nukes south of the border?


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[MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Gentle Readers,

Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more 
than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, tricks, 
or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?

Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll start 
a 
headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Howard Ginsberg
I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive.
Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E.  I replaced the
headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was
unsure of the success without doing so.  I removed the entire headliner cast
plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car.
Bought headliner material for about $50 online.  Close in texture and color,
and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the
headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield).
It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and
replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new
material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff
correctly.

Hth,
-Howard

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Gentle Readers,

 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for
 more
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips,
 tricks,
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?

 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll
 start a
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.

  Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC

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[MBZ] Cheap '87 300TD alert for Texas - CC area

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=287160

Needs head-gasket or new engine.  Nice looking car.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Howard, if you remember which adhesive I'd like to know.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Howard Ginsberg mbkindof...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:52:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive.
Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E.  I replaced the
headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was
unsure of the success without doing so.  I removed the entire headliner cast
plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car.
Bought headliner material for about $50 online.  Close in texture and color,
and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the
headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield).
It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and
replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new
material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff
correctly.

Hth,
-Howard

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Gentle Readers,

 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for
 more
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips,
 tricks,
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?

 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll
 start a
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.

  Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Still have to take the radiator out to check the back side of the condenser.  
Of course, at this point is wouldn't hurt to just buy one and change it, for 
that matter, it's likely crapped up on the inside anyway.

Peter


-Original Message-
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Jun 21, 2011 6:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

Soap and water will help find that leak quickly.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:04:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

They work fine IF the condenser is clean and there is no air in the system 
(and 
no leaks, of course).  My 300D was so cold in the highway there was 
condensation 
blowing out the vents!

However, I still have a leak, I suspect in the condenser or the evaporator.  
I'm 
hoping condenser, as I heard a hiss up there.  Easier to replace.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Howard is right on with this.

3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)

If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes 
good stuff that does what it says.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more 
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start a 
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
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 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Dan Penoff
You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and 
intended for things like panels and cloth coverings.

NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Howard is right on with this.
 
 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
 more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)
 
 If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M 
 makes good stuff that does what it says.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more 
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start a 
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Looking at the 3M website, I see 77, 90, and 8088.  Product data sheet for 8088 
specifically mentions use for installing headliners.  Anybody try the 8088?

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:18:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

Howard is right on with this.

3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)

If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes 
good stuff that does what it says.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more 
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 

 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start 
a 

 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas

?

On 6/21/11 9:22 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the 
job right.  I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it 
was enough to get it to BLOW ICE COLD.


--R

On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
Excellent!  Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new 
drier and

recharge?

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD.  
It was
even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base 
above the

vents.  I was impressed.

--R

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[MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Donald Snook
Hello Mercedes List!

I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of you 
probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back in 
December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we persevered 
and it paid off.

We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy and 
healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU.  
But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His name is 
Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until 
the day he was born.

A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 27th as 
we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa 
being born today and we sent your profile.  The following morning, he called 
and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW!   We hadn't even 
finished moving and were supposed to close the next day.  My in laws finished 
moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the story.  But, suffice 
it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have 
some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its good to be back.

Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Rusty Cullens

Congratulations!


Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:56 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity



Hello Mercedes List!

I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of 
you probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back 
in December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we 
persevered and it paid off.


We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy 
and healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal 
ICU.  But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His 
name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea 
about him until the day he was born.


A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 
27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a 
baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile.  The following 
morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa 
NOW!   We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next 
day.  My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more 
details to the story.  But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are 
working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the 
Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its good to be back.


Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote:  96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE 
COLD.  It
was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the
base above the vents.  I was impressed.

Speaking of hot temps and cold air:  My a/c works well, but a week ago when it 
was in the 90's and 100's, my a/c was not keeping up.  I have a 95 124, so I am 
leary of the evap problem.  At temps below 95 or so, the a/c does great.  It 
froze me out this morning.   But, I am wondering if I need to add some 134 or 
do some other preventative maintenance.  I bought a can of 134 last year and a 
cheap low pressure hose/gauge.   The pressure is around 40 depending on ambient 
temp etc.  According to the gauge that is in the normal range, but approaching 
too high.   Was is the low side pressure supposed to be?

Donald H. Snook
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300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
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This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or 
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
Congratulations as well !!

All the best to you and the Mrs. and baby.  May life bless all of you with
many happy days and rich rewards.  Just think, sooner than you can wink you
will be ask for the car keys.. hahaha...

Grant...

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations!


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 - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:56 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity



  Hello Mercedes List!

 I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of
 you probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back in
 December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we
 persevered and it paid off.

 We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy
 and healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal
 ICU.  But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His
 name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea
 about him until the day he was born.

 A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were
 supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 27th
 as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in
 Iowa being born today and we sent your profile.  The following morning, he
 called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW!   We
 hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day.  My in
 laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the
 story.  But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new
 house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!
 Anyway, its good to be back.

 Donald H. Snook
 1995 Mercedes E320 105K
 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER 
Trim Adhesive.  8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat 
resistance 
(i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably 
will make a mess if used on my headliner issue.  8088 plus the 8984 adhesive 
trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both 
surfaces; looks like the way to go...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and 
intended for things like panels and cloth coverings.

NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Howard is right on with this.
 
 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)
 
 If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M 
 makes 
good stuff that does what it says.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more 
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 

 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start 
a 

 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
That is great new!  Congratulations Papa Snook, glad to hear and see you're 
back 
on the list. 


Finish the house by September, then drive your family out to Atlanta on 10 (? 
or 
11th?) September and show off the little one at the Rusty-Q.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:56:50 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

Hello Mercedes List!

I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of you 
probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back in 
December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we persevered 
and it paid off.

We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy and 
healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU.  
But, 
we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His name is Henry 
Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the 
day he was born.

A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 27th as 
we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa 
being born today and we sent your profile.  The following morning, he called 
and 
said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW!   We hadn't even 
finished moving and were supposed to close the next day.  My in laws finished 
moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the story.  But, suffice 
it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have 
some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its good to be back.

Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Did you increase the engine speed to ~2000 rpm when measuring the low pressure 
side?  Also need to set AC on coldest setting, leave windows down, and let it 
stabilize by running for about 10 minutes (but you can drive around for 10 
minutes to get the system stabilized if you like).

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
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'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
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From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:02:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

Rich wrote:  96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE 
COLD.  It
was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the
base above the vents.  I was impressed.

Speaking of hot temps and cold air:  My a/c works well, but a week ago when it 
was in the 90's and 100's, my a/c was not keeping up.  I have a 95 124, so I am 
leary of the evap problem.  At temps below 95 or so, the a/c does great.  It 
froze me out this morning.   But, I am wondering if I need to add some 134 or 
do 
some other preventative maintenance.  I bought a can of 134 last year and a 
cheap low pressure hose/gauge.   The pressure is around 40 depending on ambient 
temp etc.  According to the gauge that is in the normal range, but approaching 
too high.   Was is the low side pressure supposed to be?

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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Dieselhead


Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 
134a expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system


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Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer

Misquitoes are also attracted to diabetics.
Here's are explanations of other factors:
http://www.dld123.com/about/about.php?id=A53
Gerry
- 
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com

I've been told that mosquitoes are attracted to the CO2 we breath out.
Could be each of us have a different CO2 profile or could be they are
attracted to some perfume or girlie thing she uses, like skin cream or 
soap.


On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:23 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

Rick,
I don't know why mosquitoes like some people and not others. My wife and 
I
can go outside in the evening and the mosquitoes will be attacking her 
and

they don't bother me. When I was young and drank a bit, I figured it was
because if they sucked my blood it would make them fly crooked. But now 
that

I'm older and don't drink, they still don't bother me. Go figure. Maybe I
don't taste good to them. If I could figure out why, I could market 
myself

(dead skin cell solution or whatever) and make some money for retirement
:-))) I could be the human version of kudzu to kill/repel insects. Sorry 
to

hear you are one of the people that mosquitoes like. I know they give my
wife fits.
Best Wishes,
Roger Hale
Monroe, Ga.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer
Couldn't get it to work.  Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all 
directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor.  I'll 
read up in the books on Mac.  Might be

something there.
Gerry
-
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse 
sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy!

-Curt

From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
As a very uninformed MacBook newby, I start mine by pushing the on 
button

and immediately
closing the lid on the MacBook.  Otherwise the background screen comes up 
on

the Dell 19 monitor but nothing else.  Found this by accident; may be the
way everyone starts their Mac/Monitor.
Gerry

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[MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

2011-06-21 Thread Ralph Robertson
My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially
it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times
before it will start.  Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while
before it finally settles down and works fine.

Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a
fix.

Ralph '84 300CD
   '87 300SDL
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Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

2011-06-21 Thread Rusty Cullens

It is your cruise amplifier.


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Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL



My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially
it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times
before it will start.  Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a 
while

before it finally settles down and works fine.

Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a
fix.

Ralph '84 300CD
  '87 300SDL
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Take a look in the monitor system preference. I haven't done it in awhile but 
its not all that hard. I can't help you right now as I don't have the little 
woggle to put a second monitor on my Mac.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:56:58 -0400
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
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Couldn't get it to work.  Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all
directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor.  I'll
read up in the books on Mac.  Might be
something there.
Gerry
-
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse
 sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy!
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Couldn't get it to work.  Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all
 directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor.

That's a feature, not a bug.  ;)  The external monitor isn't supposed
to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it.  The
menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the
first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at
once.  You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so
that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once
you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a
great productivity booster.

Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know
and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend
here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default
behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise!

Alex

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[MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer

Great news, Donald!  Tell us about the little one and about your new house.
Gerry
--- 

From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

Hello Mercedes List!
I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some 
of you probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby 
back in December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, 
we persevered and it paid off.


We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy 
and healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal 
ICU.  But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His 
name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea 
about him until the day he was born.


A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 
27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a 
baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile.  The following 
morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa 
NOW!   We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next 
day.  My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more 
details to the story.  But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are 
working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the 
Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its good to be back.


Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) 



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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Dan Penoff
8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door 
panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle.

The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while 
the 8090 is not.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER 
 Trim Adhesive.  8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat 
 resistance 
 (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so 
 probably 
 will make a mess if used on my headliner issue.  8088 plus the 8984 adhesive 
 trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on 
 both 
 surfaces; looks like the way to go...
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
 
 You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and 
 intended for things like panels and cloth coverings.
 
 NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Howard is right on with this.
 
 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
 more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)
 
 If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M 
 makes 
 good stuff that does what it says.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for 
 more 
 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 
 
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start 
 a 
 
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Welcome back, Donald!

Congrats on the house, and more importantly, the niblet!

So much for any spare time, as you no doubt have discovered by now...

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Hello Mercedes List!
 
 I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of 
 you probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back in 
 December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we persevered 
 and it paid off.
 
 We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy and 
 healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU.  
 But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His name is 
 Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea about him 
 until the day he was born.
 
 A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
 supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 27th 
 as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in 
 Iowa being born today and we sent your profile.  The following morning, he 
 called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW!   We 
 hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day.  My in 
 laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the 
 story.  But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new 
 house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!   
 Anyway, its good to be back.
 
 Donald H. Snook
 1995 Mercedes E320 105K
 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread redghost

CONGRATULATIONS!

enjoy being a parent, it only gets. more so.


clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Hello Mercedes List!

I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.   
Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to  
adopt a baby back in December/January.  That fell through.  It's a  
long story.  BUT, we persevered and it paid off.


We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is  
happy and healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks  
in Neonatal ICU.  But, we have been home since mid april and he is  
doing great.  His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy  
thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born.


A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We  
were supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon  
of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said,  
there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile.   
The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you  
have to come to Iowa NOW!   We hadn't even finished moving and were  
supposed to close the next day.  My in laws finished moving us, and  
we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the story.  But, suffice it  
to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally  
have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its  
good to be back.


Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread OK Don
Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs
because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing
with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use
times -the middle of the day afternoon.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 roger...@comcast.net writes:

  As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place?
  We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v
  outlets to get better charge times.

 I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many
 areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs
 being recharged every evening.  A lot of urban areas operate right on
 the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it
 is.

 Allan
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 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

OK Don wrote:

Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs
because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing
with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use
times -the middle of the day afternoon.


And there's talk of giving discounts to people who let the utility remote 
control the charger, so they can use your cars as waste dumps for excess 
nighttime juice.


There's also talk of you not making it home from work the next day if the 
utility has a problem with output one night, or if there's a giant need for 
nighttime air conditioning and the utility doesn't turn on your charger.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Rory
So maybe we need to convert to the metric system and the standard outlet is
now 220v. I know I did this for my server farm here at work, all servers are
on 220v.
I really don't think we sill see a solution in this current decade.

Here you can see what Calif is demanding for electricity
http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html



Rory

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging
 EVs
 because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing
 with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use
 times -the middle of the day afternoon.

 On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:

  roger...@comcast.net writes:
 
   As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place?
   We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v
   outlets to get better charge times.
 
  I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many
  areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs
  being recharged every evening.  A lot of urban areas operate right on
  the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it
  is.
 
  Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer

I'll try to find it tonight and report back.
Thanks,
Gerry

From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
Take a look in the monitor system preference. I haven't done it in awhile 
but its not all that hard. I can't help you right now as I don't have the 
little woggle to put a second monitor on my Mac.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:56:58 -0400
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
Couldn't get it to work.  Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all
directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. 
I'll

read up in the books on Mac.  Might be
something there.
Gerry
-
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse
sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy!
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer

arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all
directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor.


Alex wrote:
That's a feature, not a bug.  ;)  The external monitor isn't supposed
to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it.  The
menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the
first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at
once.  You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so
that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once
you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a
great productivity booster.

G:  Got it to work!

Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know
and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend
here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default
behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise!
Alex

No problem.  I know little about Macs other than Mail and Safari, and
not a lot about them.  Appreciate the info.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Gerry Archer

Florida has the biggest misquitoes.
Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay.
One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out  his blood.
The other one said, No.  Those big misquitoes down there will take him away
from us.
Gerry
--- 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the 
mosquitoes

got really bad.  Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard.  We were
catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun 
went
down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.  We 
were
in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to 
flip
the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests.  We thought 
that was
pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them 
and
feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull.  They started 
sticking
their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer 
out of
the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they 
couldn't
pull them back out.  After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the 
hull,
the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of 
us and

carry it away.  We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly
underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night.  Never 
did find

that boat.
Very respectfully,
Max Dillon



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Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Dan, now I just need to find the time!

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:32:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options

8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door 
panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle.

The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while 
the 
8090 is not.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER 
 Trim Adhesive.  8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat 
resistance 

 (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so 
 probably 

 will make a mess if used on my headliner issue.  8088 plus the 8984 adhesive 
 trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on 
 both 

 surfaces; looks like the way to go...
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
 
 You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and 
 intended for things like panels and cloth coverings.
 
 NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Howard is right on with this.
 
 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the 
 more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.)
 
 If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M 
 makes 

 good stuff that does what it says.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Gentle Readers,
 
 Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for 
 more 

 than a year or two?  What is the recommended adhesive?  Any other tips, 
 tricks, 

 
 or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing?
 
 Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!!  Maybe I'll 
 start 

 a 
 
 headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business.
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Which car?

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:03:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially
it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times
before it will start.  Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while
before it finally settles down and works fine.

Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a
fix.

Ralph '84 300CD
   '87 300SDL
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
I think the evaporator is also different.

On my '87 wagon, once I get the new head on, I'm going to try that ES-12 stuff 
the Jaime posted a while back, keep the r12 expansion valve (may replace with a 
new part).  If that doesn't work out, will try a r134 expansion valve with r134.

Speaking of the new head, machine shop reports that it checks out just fine, 
but 
they couldn't source the valve guide seals so I called Mr. Q to resolve that.  
Hope to have the new head later this week or early next week, still need to get 
the old head off though.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:29:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD


Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 134a 
expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system

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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Fail!

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:54:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

?

On 6/21/11 9:22 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
 No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the job 
 right.  
I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it was enough to get 
it 
to BLOW ICE COLD.
 
 --R
 
 On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
 Excellent!  Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and
 recharge?
 
   Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
 '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
 '73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
 Charleston SC
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
 
 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD.  It was
 even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above 
the
 vents.  I was impressed.
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Never mind, just read the rest of the subject line...

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:31:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

Which car?

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:03:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL

My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially
it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times
before it will start.  Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while
before it finally settles down and works fine.

Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a
fix.

Ralph '84 300CD
   '87 300SDL
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Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2011-06-21 Thread E M
And not to forget, one of the big reasons for a dry sump, is no oil
starvation when cornering through longer corners. Other none dry sump cars
that are subjects to heavy g loads in corners, will often add baffles in the
pan, to stop all the sloshing about, or the oil being thrown to one side in
corners.  A 911 will hold 2-3 quarts in the lower part of the engine, with
about 7 or so quarts in the aux oil tank.  Both are drained seperately in an
old p car.

Ed
300E

On 20 June 2011 19:41, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  A dry sump is the term for an oil pan where the oil isn't left in the
  sump. A lot of race applications use them in order to have a higher oil
  capacity and reduce the chance of sucking an air bubble if the oil
  sloshes...
 
 The MB 6.9 used a dry sump for ground clearance. All flat six Porsches were
 dry sump engines (from 1965) for more oil capacity for cooling plus the
 engine could be lower to lower the center of gravity. Adding one to a
 street
 car for other reasons is pointless.

 RLE

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[MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic 
car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has 
fanned the flame, so to speak.


In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to 
some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out 
onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.


So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we 
stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.


I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and 
the point of this is him rather than me.


I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a 
better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.


He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his 
father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing 
that as my purpose.


So, what think you all?

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Firebird's are always good, as are Stangs an Corvettes.

Maybe an old Packard if you can find a shell cheap?

Walt
On Jun 21, 2011 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic
 car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has
 fanned the flame, so to speak.

 In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to
 some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out
 onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

 So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

 What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

 Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we
 stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

 I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and
 the point of this is him rather than me.

 I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

 For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a
 better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

 He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his
 father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing
 that as my purpose.

 So, what think you all?

 Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Screen sharing versus screen mirroring.

Sharing makes a giant desktop (also known as an extended desktop) out of the 
two monitors, with the primary monitor having the dock and desktop icons on it.

Screen mirroring is just what it describes. You will have the same image 
(desktop) on each monitor, as the new one mirrors the main monitor.

This is typical when you are using a projector, for example.

MacDan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all
 directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor.
 
 Alex wrote:
 That's a feature, not a bug.  ;)  The external monitor isn't supposed
 to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it.  The
 menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the
 first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at
 once.  You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so
 that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once
 you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a
 great productivity booster.
 
 G:  Got it to work!
 
 Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know
 and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend
 here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default
 behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise!
 Alex
 
 No problem.  I know little about Macs other than Mail and Safari, and
 not a lot about them.  Appreciate the info.
 Gerry
 
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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic 
car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has 
fanned the flame, so to speak.


If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was destined for scrap or parting 
out, why not use it?


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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread E M
No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car.  Having said
that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some
modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering
columns, etc., along with proper belts.  I prefer hardtops over drop tops,
not that the old ones offered great roll over protection.  Partial rollover
bars can be added if you want.  More than crash protection, I think with
these old machines, building in crash avoidance wherever you can (like
modern disk brakes, etc), and most of all, driving it with the respect that
an old car with limited crash protection offers, is the way to go.

The benefit of going to a muscle car, or building a musle car, is that there
are many vendors offereing body and mechanical bits for cars like Stangs and
Chevs.  With a true rod, many of the bits will most like have  to be custom,
and I'm now sure that really the way to go for a first time project.  There
are lots of part finished rods sitting around, were people just got tired of
them, and walked away.

Either way, good luck with the venture.

Ed
300E

On 21 June 2011 14:54, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic
 car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned
 the flame, so to speak.

 In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some
 extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his
 own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

 So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

 What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

 Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed
 a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

 I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the
 point of this is him rather than me.

 I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

 For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a
 better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

 He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his
 father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that
 as my purpose.

 So, what think you all?

 Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
Caprice Classic wagon?

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. 
He 
works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so 
to speak.

In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some 
extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own 
with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a 
small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the 
point of this is him rather than me.

I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better 
choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, 
I 
would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose.

So, what think you all?

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Donald Snook
Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald!  Tell us about the little one and about your 
new house.

Ok.  The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born.  We 
arrived the day after he was born.  He was 4 weeks premature, but was healthy.  
He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck - swallow - breath 
instinct.  He would wear himself out trying to eat.  He did very well and 
gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect.  He was there 
for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork to go through.  We 
came home on April 17th.  He had already gained significant weight.  He is 
perfect.  Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he actually looks like me.  He really 
does.  He is now almost 3 months old.  He has gained twice as much weight as 
the doctor's want him to.  He hasn't quite caught up to a full term 3 month 
old, but he is close.  He is a very happy baby, but he still hasn't mastered 
sleeping through the night.  He has really big hands and feet and he is a ham.  
Lots of personality and he turned over on his 1 month birthday. So, Im sure he 
is going to be an over-achiever! :) He just had his first cold this weekend and 
he weighs almost 11 pounds!

The house is a big ass ranch.  VERY different from the previous house.  The 
previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor.  It had beautiful 
hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural 
details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master bathroom, 
a detached garage and a small yard.  It was also the most expensive house on 
the block and the neighborhood was really declining.  The new house was built 
in 1979.  AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow -wow 70's glam.  Lots of 
paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly wallpaper, and one room with floor 
to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors!  But, it also has 3500 sg. Ft, 3 
bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open rooms, a finished basement, a huge deck 
a walk in closet, an attached oversized garage and its 50 YEARS newer.  So, we 
have been tearing down wallpaper and painting, and remodeling.  Its going a 
little slower than expected with the new kid.  The really odd thing is since 
the market is down, we actually bought this house $30,000 below appraisal and 
for the same price we were trying to sell our old house for.  Instead of being 
the most expensive house in a declining neighborhood, we have the cheapest 
house in a very nice neighborhood.  My neighbor and I have already bonded.  He 
has a 500E.  It is BEAUTIFUL.


Donald H. Snook
McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.
300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Yup and many states have net metering laws which force the utility to buy 
electricity from all producers. Some net metering laws even pay a higher price 
during peak demand.

The other thing to go right with this is smart meters which charge you more 
during high demand periods. It would suddenly push all users to conserve during 
the day and move loads like washing machines and dryers to the evening when 
demand is lower.
Most home EV charging would be in the evening or night so I think the old 
it'll drive the electrical grid to its knees argument is bunk. Also worth 
remembering is that these cars won't just appear overnight. As the grid is 
stressed the utilities can do what they should have been doing all along and 
add additional capacity...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:54:39 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy
VOLT
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Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs
because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing
with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use
times -the middle of the day afternoon.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 roger...@comcast.net writes:

  As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place?
  We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v
  outlets to get better charge times.

 I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many
 areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs
 being recharged every evening.  A lot of urban areas operate right on
 the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it
 is.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
What does the metric system have to do with it? My dryer runs on 220v, my 
electric stove runs on 220v, my air conditioner runs on 220v. At some point 
I'll have 220v in the garage because 220v welders have better duty cycles and a 
220v air compressor can have a more powerful motor for better recycle time.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:02:01 -0700
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy
VOLT
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So maybe we need to convert to the metric system and the standard outlet is
now 220v. I know I did this for my server farm here at work, all servers are
on 220v.
I really don't think we sill see a solution in this current decade.

Here you can see what Calif is demanding for electricity
http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html



Rory

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/06/2011 2:10 PM, E M wrote:

No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car.  Having said
that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some
modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering
columns, etc., along with proper belts.  I prefer hardtops over drop tops,
not that the old ones offered great roll over protection.  Partial rollover
bars can be added if you want.  More than crash protection, I think with
these old machines, building in crash avoidance wherever you can (like
modern disk brakes, etc), and most of all, driving it with the respect that
an old car with limited crash protection offers, is the way to go.

The benefit of going to a muscle car, or building a musle car, is that there
are many vendors offereing body and mechanical bits for cars like Stangs and
Chevs.  With a true rod, many of the bits will most like have  to be custom,
and I'm now sure that really the way to go for a first time project.  There
are lots of part finished rods sitting around, were people just got tired of
them, and walked away.

Either way, good luck with the venture.

Ed
300E

On 21 June 2011 14:54, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca  wrote:


My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic
car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned
the flame, so to speak.

In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some
extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his
own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed
a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the
point of this is him rather than me.

I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a
better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his
father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that
as my purpose.

So, what think you all?

Randy



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This is where he works. Custom fabrication is their thing. He is not one 
of the fabricators. He is a licenced mechanic. They have other people 
who are designated fabricators and welders etc.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/06/2011 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type 
classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and 
that has fanned the flame, so to speak.


If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was destined for scrap 
or parting out, why not use it?



As I said, sort of, I might want to do that but he won't.

He has little or no interest in my 300D. He thinks it should be lowered 
and have big wheels etc.


I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
I like the Caprice or Impala SS from the early 90's. Not so many around 
now though. There were lots of cheap beat up ones at one time as the 
police forces used them. My son might be convinced to go for something 
like that.

He needs it to be good sized as he is 6'3.

Randy

On 21/06/2011 2:16 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

Caprice Classic wagon?

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





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To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He
works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so
to speak.

In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some
extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own
with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a
small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the
point of this is him rather than me.

I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better
choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I
would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose.

So, what think you all?

Randy






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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I wish you all the best, glad to hear everything is going good!

Walt
On Jun 21, 2011 3:35 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald! Tell us about the little one and about
your new house.

 Ok. The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born. We
arrived the day after he was born. He was 4 weeks premature, but was
healthy. He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck -
swallow - breath instinct. He would wear himself out trying to eat. He did
very well and gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect.
He was there for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork to
go through. We came home on April 17th. He had already gained significant
weight. He is perfect. Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he actually looks
like me. He really does. He is now almost 3 months old. He has gained twice
as much weight as the doctor's want him to. He hasn't quite caught up to a
full term 3 month old, but he is close. He is a very happy baby, but he
still hasn't mastered sleeping through the night. He has really big hands
and feet and he is a ham. Lots of personality and he turned over on his 1
month birthday. So, Im sure he is going to be an over-achiever! :) He just
had his first cold this weekend and he weighs almost 11 pounds!

 The house is a big ass ranch. VERY different from the previous house. The
previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor. It had beautiful
hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural
details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master
bathroom, a detached garage and a small yard. It was also the most expensive
house on the block and the neighborhood was really declining. The new house
was built in 1979. AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow -wow 70's
glam. Lots of paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly wallpaper, and
one room with floor to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors! But, it also has
3500 sg. Ft, 3 bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open rooms, a finished
basement, a huge deck a walk in closet, an attached oversized garage and its
50 YEARS newer. So, we have been tearing down wallpaper and painting, and
remodeling. Its going a little slower than expected with the new kid. The
really odd thing is since the market is down, we actually bought this house
$30,000 below appraisal and for the same price we were trying to sell our
old house for. Instead of being the most expensive house in a declining
neighborhood, we have the cheapest house in a very nice neighborhood. My
neighbor and I have already bonded. He has a 500E. It is BEAUTIFUL.


 Donald H. Snook
 McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.
 300 West Douglas
 P.O. Box 207
 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
 Tel. (316) 263-5851
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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:


I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either.


Marshall looked into it and bought a new finnie right after his wife was killed 
in an old Chevy or similar.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

How about a big old Cadillac from the '70s or early '80s, before they
downsized and went to FWD?  Drop a built SBC in there with a
tall-geared transmission and rear end and you'd get performance way
better than stock and decent gas mileage to boot.  You could surprise
a lot of souped-up Hondas at stop lights with that setup. ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:

Caprice Classic wagon?


Kingswood or Vista Cruiser.
Mit chromed Keystone Classics.

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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this
little car/concept.  It is now being produced and is scheduled for import, I
think.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491

No plug in, no long down time while batteries recharge [with the proper
support systems in place] . No heavy batteries to carry around so overall
weight of car is greatly less than EV's.

 Plus claimed 200 mile range on one charge of air, plus the engine also can
run on gasoline for extreme mileage.  The car runs on compressed air but
engine is also rigged to run on gas so you are never left out and
empty..

I've been following the designer for some years [a frenchman] and it's now
licensed for production in India.

Grant...

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging
 EVs
 because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing
 with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use
 times -the middle of the day afternoon.

 On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:

  roger...@comcast.net writes:
 
   As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place?
   We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v
   outlets to get better charge times.
 
  I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many
  areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs
  being recharged every evening.  A lot of urban areas operate right on
  the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it
  is.
 
  Allan
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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

G Mann wrote:

On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this
little car/concept.  It is now being produced and is scheduled for import, I
think.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491


I've got to assume that compressed air is just another severely inefficient 
battery. (although energy density per pound might be high, energy out per energy 
in is going to be very low)


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story...
hahahahhaha.

However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad
sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze.

Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from
mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this
afternoon with NO skeeters.

Grant...

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:

 Florida has the biggest misquitoes.
 Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay.
 One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out  his blood.
 The other one said, No.  Those big misquitoes down there will take him
 away
 from us.
 Gerry
 --**- From: Max Dillon 
 meadedil...@bellsouth.net

 In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the
 mosquitoes
 got really bad.  Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard.  We were
 catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun
 went
 down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.  We
 were
 in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to
 flip
 the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests.  We thought
 that was
 pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them
 and
 feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull.  They started
 sticking
 their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer
 out of
 the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they
 couldn't
 pull them back out.  After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the
 hull,
 the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of
 us and
 carry it away.  We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly
 underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night.  Never
 did find
 that boat.
 Very respectfully,
 Max Dillon



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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Seriously? Nothing... A newer car will just allow him to get killed in a more 
interesting way. He'll also drive himself broke in a hurry. Maybe help him 
learn some of the excitement of planning for his future.

Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight face either. ;)

I think you've got the feel for it, I think the Mustang is probably a better 
platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool...

Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an 
AMC Eagle?
On the MB front I'd say something like a 560SE with a blower, lowered with 
fancy wheels. The car will handle better than most mid '80s US iron to begin 
with and should tolerate moderate hop up well.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:54:03 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
Message-ID: 4e00e8cb.1080...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic
car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has
fanned the flame, so to speak.

In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to
some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out
onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.

So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we
stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.

I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and
the point of this is him rather than me.

I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a
better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.

He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his
father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing
that as my purpose.

So, what think you all?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread Fmiser
 Curt Raymond wrote:

 As the grid is stressed the
 utilities can do what they should have been doing all along
 and add additional capacity...

The grid is already stressed.

And the environmental laws have made it _tough_ to add
capacity.  As I understand, the growth in the last dozen years
or so has been at the expense of capacity buffer.  That is,
rather than building new generation plants to keep up with
current and anticipated growth, the system has just dipped into
the built in deal-with-emergencies buffer capacity.  Meaning
there is very little buffer left.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Fmiser
 Randy Bennell wrote:

 I like the Caprice or Impala SS from the early 90's. Not so
 many around now though. There were lots of cheap beat up ones
 at one time as the police forces used them. My son might be
 convinced to go for something like that.
 He needs it to be good sized as he is 6'3.

1980 Old Cutlass Supreme coupe.  With a Olds 455 big block. :)

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
Actually, the guys design is pretty ingenious.  It's a compound engine that
uses several tricks that are pretty neat to maximize the stored energy of
the compressed air.

The compressed air tanks are recharged either externally, or through a
rather ingenious system that uses fuel [this thing will use almost anything
that burns for fuel it seems].  The system is an external combustion
system that is much like a steam engine of the 1800's only on steroids,
hence the extreme range claims.

As with all such claims, the proof comes in the hands of the complete and
total mechanical idiots it will be sold to. if it passes that gauntlet,
it has a chance.

Until then, I follow the concept with some interest.  Thought perhaps some
here might find interest as well.

Grant...
82 300D AZ
83 300SD...AZ


On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 G Mann wrote:

 On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this
 little car/concept.  It is now being produced and is scheduled for import,
 I
 think.

 http://www.popularmechanics.**com/cars/news/preview-concept/**4251491http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491


 I've got to assume that compressed air is just another severely inefficient
 battery. (although energy density per pound might be high, energy out per
 energy in is going to be very low)


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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:


Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an 
AMC Eagle?


Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny?
(chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course)

Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or Cobalt 
SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
H .. Safety AND Horsepower. OK..

A two door Volvo with an old  school Chrysler Hemi , one that makes 1000 HP
with blower and Zoomie headers?

Somehow young guy + Volvo + 1000 HP Hemi blown engine na
doesn't compute for safety...

What ever he builds encourage him to give it the full roll cage / 5 point
harness / fire suppression system / etc etc treatment it's way cool to
have to strap on before you unleash way to much HP... right?  Safety
starts with the right attitude towards self injury.

Good luck,
Grant...

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 Curt Raymond wrote:

  Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what
 about an AMC Eagle?


 Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny?
 (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course)

 Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or
 Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wow, a real job!  How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg?

Andrew

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 Curt Raymond wrote:

 Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what
 about an AMC Eagle?


 Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny?
 (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course)

 Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or
 Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2.

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles 
 although they are severely uncool...


Mustangs uncool?  Must be a regional thing.  Out here on the West
Coast the '80s Fox-platform 'Stangs are ridiculously popular with
hot-rodders.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/06/2011 3:43 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Seriously? Nothing... A newer car will just allow him to get killed in a more interesting 
way. He'll also drive himself broke in a hurry. Maybe help him learn some of the 
excitement of planning for his future.

Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight face either. ;)

I think you've got the feel for it, I think the Mustang is probably a better 
platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool...

Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an 
AMC Eagle?
On the MB front I'd say something like a 560SE with a blower, lowered with 
fancy wheels. The car will handle better than most mid '80s US iron to begin 
with and should tolerate moderate hop up well.

-Curt



I have been urging him to start saving for his retirement and for a home 
too. I wish someone had pushed me a bit harder to save for retirement 
when I was his age. Put away even $50 from each paycheque and after 40 
years one should have a nice little nest egg.


He also won't wish to live in a rented apartment forever and will need a 
good down payment even to look at a house these days. I know things are 
not rosy in the US housing market these days but so far, here, it is 
still going up. One pays $250K plus for a 1000 sq foot bungalow in an 
area one might be willing to live in. Properties here still have bidding 
wars with people paying $20K over asking prices. Won't last forever but 
won't necessarily drop back a whole lot either so even a minimal down 
payment and basic closing costs will run $15K or better.


That is one of the reasons I am thinking of helping him do something 
about a project car. He and his girl are both driving older cars now and 
they won't last forever either. If they have to upgrade or replace their 
daily drivers then that money has to come from somewhere too.


I am not talking about spending a fortune but just about trying to help 
him move forward with his wish to do that sort of thing while still 
trying to save some money for other more practical purposes.


I spoil my kids I guess. My mother thinks so anyway.

He has been pretty good at not totally squandering his earnings. He has 
a whole whack of good quality tools and more fishing equipment than some 
stores. We have provided a series of boats and encouraged his interest 
in fishing. We started out reasonably inexpensively with a light 
aluminum boat and 10 HP motor and then moved up to a bigger aluminum 
boat with a 35Hp and then to a 16 foot Alumacraft with a 70 HP motor. 
All told I have about $6K invested in the boat, trailer etc as we had 
the 70 HP left from another boat that was sold. Much of the money came 
back out of the earlier boats. I made money on the first one and broke 
even on the 2nd one after some significant repairs to it.


We have also provided a series of vehicles for him to drive. Nothing 
really fancy or expensive but he has not had to buy his own. He has 
covered most of his fuel and some repairs during the time when he was an 
apprentice and working for lower wages.


Some of this is an offset as his elder brother got a Masters Degree with 
us footing the bill. Younger brother was not so interested in University 
so he went into the trades and we did not hhve to pay so much for 
tuition and things like laptop computers.


Sort of moved off topic here.

He would no doubt like something like a late 60's Chevelle with a big 
block. I am a bit more concerned about fuel costs.


Randy





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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
Not far. Just over the floodway on 59 going south. Before one gets to 
Ile de Chenes.


Randy

On 21/06/2011 4:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Wow, a real job!  How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg?

Andrew

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:


Curt Raymond wrote:

Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what

about an AMC Eagle?


Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny?
(chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course)

Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or
Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/06/2011 4:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:

I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles 
although they are severely uncool...


Mustangs uncool?  Must be a regional thing.  Out here on the West
Coast the '80s Fox-platform 'Stangs are ridiculously popular with
hot-rodders.

Alex

I like the Mustangs but it is generally less expensive to build Chevy 
power and I cannot say I would be one to put a Chevy in a Ford. Just 
seems wrong.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Just yesterday I was thinking about this for some reason unclear.  
Anyway, what I came up with was to get an 80s extended cab S-10/15 
pickup (I had an 83 ext cab, and liked it which is why I thought of it, 
I think that was the first year for them) and do some chopping and 
dropping, put in a 350 and fix up the suspension, maybe bag it, roll 
cage, some nice seats and such.  Maybe more rat rod than something 
polished, but would still be fun.  I'm sure you could find the bits for 
something like that for next to nothing, down south where it wouldn't be 
all rusty, and just build it up as you went and got a few $$.


--R

On 6/21/11 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type 
classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that 
has fanned the flame, so to speak.


In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to 
some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out 
onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc.


So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question.

What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars?

Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we 
stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result.


I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so 
and the point of this is him rather than me.


I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent.

For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely 
a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection.


He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his 
father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing 
that as my purpose.


So, what think you all?

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley


http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/113_0703_volvo_1800/index.html
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Russ Williams

Congratulations on both additions

On 6/21/2011 9:56 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

Hello Mercedes List!

I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up.  Some of you 
probably know about our Adoption saga.  We tried to adopt a baby back in 
December/January.  That fell through.  It's a long story.  BUT, we persevered 
and it paid off.

We adopted a baby back in March.  He was born March 27th and he is happy and 
healthy!  He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU.  
But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great.  His name is 
Henry Richard Atticus Snook.  The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until 
the day he was born.

A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one.  We were 
supposed to close March 29th on both of them.  On the afternoon of the 27th as 
we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa 
being born today and we sent your profile.  The following morning, he called 
and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW!   We hadn't even 
finished moving and were supposed to close the next day.  My in laws finished 
moving us, and we went to Iowa!  Many more details to the story.  But, suffice 
it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have 
some time to get back into the Mercedes digests!   Anyway, its good to be back.

Donald H. Snook
1995 Mercedes E320 105K
2010 Dodge Charger (her car!)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Rentfro
Where are you in AZ?

Bob R
On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story...
 hahahahhaha.

 However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad
 sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze.

 Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from
 mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this
 afternoon with NO skeeters.

 Grant...

 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
wrote:

 Florida has the biggest misquitoes.
 Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay.
 One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood.
 The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him
 away
 from us.
 Gerry
 --**- From: Max Dillon 
 meadedil...@bellsouth.net

 In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the
 mosquitoes
 got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were
 catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the
sun
 went
 down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.
We
 were
 in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to
 flip
 the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought
 that was
 pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear
them
 and
 feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started
 sticking
 their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the
hammer
 out of
 the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they
 couldn't
 pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the
 hull,
 the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of
 us and
 carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly
 underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never
 did find
 that boat.
 Very respectfully,
 Max Dillon



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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
Two places, Phoenix and a Ranch 90 miles west in the desert.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are you in AZ?

 Bob R
 On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story...
  hahahahhaha.
 
  However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad
  sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze.
 
  Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from
  mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this
  afternoon with NO skeeters.
 
  Grant...
 
  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Florida has the biggest misquitoes.
  Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay.
  One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his
 blood.
  The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him
  away
  from us.
  Gerry
  --**- From: Max Dillon 
  meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 
  In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the
  mosquitoes
  got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We
 were
  catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the
 sun
  went
  down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful.
 We
  were
  in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided
 to
  flip
  the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought
  that was
  pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear
 them
  and
  feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started
  sticking
  their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the
 hammer
  out of
  the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they
  couldn't
  pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the
  hull,
  the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off
 of
  us and
  carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam
 (mostly
  underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never
  did find
  that boat.
  Very respectfully,
  Max Dillon
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Rentfro
I live in Goodyear, I work at Palo Verde.Where is your ranch?

Bob R
On Jun 21, 2011 3:41 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Two places, Phoenix and a Ranch 90 miles west in the desert.

 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are you in AZ?

 Bob R
 On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story...
  hahahahhaha.
 
  However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad
  sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze.
 
  Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from
  mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this
  afternoon with NO skeeters.
 
  Grant...
 
  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Florida has the biggest misquitoes.
  Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay.
  One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his
 blood.
  The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him
  away
  from us.
  Gerry
  --**- From: Max Dillon 
  meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 
  In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the
  mosquitoes
  got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We
 were
  catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the
 sun
  went
  down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too
awful.
 We
  were
  in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided
 to
  flip
  the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought
  that was
  pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear
 them
  and
  feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started
  sticking
  their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the
 hammer
  out of
  the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they
  couldn't
  pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against
the
  hull,
  the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off
 of
  us and
  carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam
 (mostly
  underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night.
Never
  did find
  that boat.
  Very respectfully,
  Max Dillon
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD

2011-06-21 Thread Dieselhead
For valve seals, ALWAYS use either Gen-u-wine MB from the 
stealership, or from Mr. Q or at least OE from Rusty.  Never, EVER 
let a machine shop get valves seals for you.


Gen-u-wine, even from a stealership at 3x the list price are a lot 
cheaper than a do-over.




I think the evaporator is also different.

On my '87 wagon, once I get the new head on, I'm going to try that ES-12 stuff
the Jaime posted a while back, keep the r12 expansion valve (may 
replace with a
new part).  If that doesn't work out, will try a r134 expansion 
valve with r134.


Speaking of the new head, machine shop reports that it checks out 
just fine, but
they couldn't source the valve guide seals so I called Mr. Q to resolve that. 
Hope to have the new head later this week or early next week, still 
need to get

the old head off though.

 Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC





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Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:29:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD


Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 134a
expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system

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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity

2011-06-21 Thread Zoltan Finks
Donald,

Congratulations! It is weird to read this information here, because I have
just gone through similar trials.

I have not been active on the Mercedes list for some time. We found out our
baby would have a birth defect (which has turned out less severe than it
could have been - it can be fixed by surgery and there may be no lasting
effects).

But our baby was born 10 weeks early. We were in the NICU for, I believe,
over 10 weeks.

Your description of the suck, swallow, breathe problems is VERY familiar.
And the tiring out thing as well. The speech therapist at the hospital
says it's like running a marathon - eating for a preemie.

Anyway, if you have any questions or things to share, you can contact me on,
or off list.

Sounds like your baby is doing somewhat better than ours in terms of eating
and weight gain. The hospital wants her to eat so much more than she does.
In fact, she is not even meeting 80% of what was required of her in order to
get discharged from the hospital.

I have managed to hang on to our 83 240D but have devoted no time to it.
Still sits in our garage with a clutch system leak and dead battery. There
is pressure to get rid of it, but I don't really want to!

brian

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald!  Tell us about the little one and about
 your new house.

 Ok.  The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born.  We
 arrived the day after he was born.  He was 4 weeks premature, but was
 healthy.  He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck -
 swallow - breath instinct.  He would wear himself out trying to eat.  He did
 very well and gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect.
  He was there for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork
 to go through.  We came home on April 17th.  He had already gained
 significant weight.  He is perfect.  Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he
 actually looks like me.  He really does.  He is now almost 3 months old.  He
 has gained twice as much weight as the doctor's want him to.  He hasn't
 quite caught up to a full term 3 month old, but he is close.  He is a very
 happy baby, but he still hasn't mastered sleeping through the night.  He has
 really big hands and feet and he is a ham.  Lots of personality and he
 turned over on his 1 month birthday. So, Im sure he is going to be an
 over-achiever! :) He just had his first cold this weekend and he weighs
 almost 11 pounds!

 The house is a big ass ranch.  VERY different from the previous house.  The
 previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor.  It had beautiful
 hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural
 details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master
 bathroom, a detached garage and a small yard.  It was also the most
 expensive house on the block and the neighborhood was really declining.  The
 new house was built in 1979.  AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow
 -wow 70's glam.  Lots of paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly
 wallpaper, and one room with floor to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors!
  But, it also has 3500 sg. Ft, 3 bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open
 rooms, a finished basement, a huge deck a walk in closet, an attached
 oversized garage and its 50 YEARS newer.  So, we have been tearing down
 wallpaper and painting, and remodeling.  Its going a little slower than
 expected with the new kid.  The really odd thing is since the market is
 down, we actually bought this house $30,000 below appraisal and for the same
 price we were trying to sell our old house for.  Instead of being the most
 expensive house in a declining neighborhood, we have the cheapest house in a
 very nice neighborhood.  My neighbor and I have already bonded.  He has a
 500E.  It is BEAUTIFUL.


 Donald H. Snook
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