Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels
Thanks, will let you know how this repair attempt turns out. I may yet need a RR, I have a spare LR and LF. I found this thread on Benzworld that ties all the pieces together: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1332991-kajtek1-window-regulator-question.html Pictures show that 201, 124, and 210 rear window regulators all use the same sliding jaw, and the replacement sliding jaw for front windows on 210's, part number 210 720 00 42, has the critical plastic part in common. One must remove the metal plate from the old part and install that on the new sliding jaw, and then put all the pieces together. Tricky part will be getting the lift/lower cable ends back in their little metal cage and home in the appropriate slot in the plastic piece. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 2:25:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels I have a spare LR Regulator, and I neglected to take the RF and RR out of the junk car that went away. Had them loose, but never got them out. I have another 124 rear regulator. Let me see if I can find it. If it is a RR I will sell it or trade it for one to be sent at a later date. I think I know where the odd one is. Thanks Larry, but I did get it off shortly after I posted the question. I found the plastic guide in pieces, cables flopping around inside the door. I'm trying to figure out if I can purchase a new plastic piece for $12 or so vs. a new regulator assembly for $140 or more. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 7:23:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels this may be a little late but I can email you the relevant pages of the WSM showing the door panel removal if you'd like? LarryT -Original Message- From: Max Dillon Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 2:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 124 door panels Do they lift up first, or pop off the bottom first? Also how does the trim around the inside door handle come off? I'm out in town with family, RR window just made a bad noise and stopped moving about three quarters of the way shut. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Excellent! Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and recharge? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Thermodynamics in a nutshell: -You can't win. -You can't break even. -It's the only game (and you have to play it). -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 20, 2011, at 21:57, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, no. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only its form changed, thats your first law of thermodynamics that is. To get hydrogen will always take more energy than said hydrogen is worth. Good oil will always contain more energy than it took to get it. That said we're running short on really good oil. As an aside I'm working on a short post apocalyptic movie that highlights plastic reclamation (ie digging it out of garbage dumps) to turn into oil once oil is impossible (because its gone or the technology to get it is gone) to get. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:50:59 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Message-ID: BANLkTikrqr7cUnD=evsco2xxrgdpxcs...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hydrogen for this test program was supplied from large tanks from Air-liquid who is/was a major hydrogen supplier for the space program [rockets use hydrogen fuel... lots of it]. The hydrogen was extracted either from water process using electric current or extracted from free air I believe. The argument can be raised that it takes more energy to crack water than the hydrogen returns, however argument can also be raised that if research was devoted to the process a better system could/would be found to produce hydrogen. Nothing is free, even free oil coming out of the ground costs money to capture and make into diesel/gas. Cheap always wins, except in girlfriends and quality. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
An old remedy was to eat a lot of garlic, although I've never tried it. Supposedly the bugs leave you alone and sometimes wife, kids, friends and total strangers will also leave you alone. Gerry -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Funny you should ask... We were at camp a couple weeks ago and the bugs were AWFUL. Angie had picked up a bottle of this stuff: http://www.ecoblends.com/ Usually the non-deet stuff is just citronella and is dubiously useful, this stuff when I took the cap off a cloud of bugs that had been hanging around me instantly dissipated. Even my Dad was surprised. Its wicked oily (mostly soy oil as a carrier) but absorbs into your skin rapidly, smells mostly of geraniums (geranium oil is a component) and works good for a few hours at a time. It doesn't need to be washed off, or rather it doesn't leave you feeling like you need to wash off once its had time to absorb. -Curt From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com Does anyone know of a bug repellent that works well and doesn't contain DEET? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
On Jun 20, 2011 10:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Agreed. I think its air conditioning that makes people weak. Spoken like a true Northerner. :) I can't imagine what it was like without AC. Porches, siestas, fans, and sweet iced tea. Long lunch breaks. And airy hats of course. If you visit some of the older Southern working-class houses, you will see a lot of the open air and covered porch action that is popular in green construction now. Small kitchen with an outside door, rising ceilings with the highest in a wide/long hallway, open eaves, thick interior doors... It is interesting how much of Southern culture was just reacting to the different environment, I assume the same is true everywhere though I've never studied it. Here however we'll use our AC maybe 10 days total this summer and most of those we'll shut it off before bed. Likewise, I haven't bothered to fix the heat on the 300D; I use the Harbor Freight electric heater to defrost but it just doesn't get that cold. Yesterday it was 90something, my daughter just walked in wearing a lined coat and sweater since it is only high 70s. I guess if you grow up in it you get used to it. Best, -Tim Son of Yankees ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Soap and water will help find that leak quickly. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:04:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD They work fine IF the condenser is clean and there is no air in the system (and no leaks, of course). My 300D was so cold in the highway there was condensation blowing out the vents! However, I still have a leak, I suspect in the condenser or the evaporator. I'm hoping condenser, as I heard a hiss up there. Easier to replace. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
When they carried it off to their nest the big uns came and took it away from them. --R On 6/21/11 7:55 AM, Max Dillon wrote: In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off
The rack position sensor plug has a base that rotates normal off direction by finger, but it may be really tight and not obvious. That plug must come off to get the vacuum shut off valve off. 'Tis doable under the intake manifold, but if you pull the pump you could also do a complete re-seal at the same time and then not worry about the pump for another 100k miles. Might also be able to get a clean shot at all the glow plugs with the pump out of the way. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:06:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off Yeah, that is kind of what I am up to. It is a lot easier to do on the IP core on the bench, than on the working one under the intake manifold. I have been pondering buying a manifold gasket, but I think I will try taking off the ALDA and the electric plug, then pull the shutoff and see if anything is apparent. Since I have a working plastic shutoff, I may plug that in and see it if makes a difference, if nothing is apparent when I take out the old metal shutoff. Fred Moir wrote: Just a thought, if the metal shut-off vaccu-suck were to bind in its' slide, it might cause the problem that you describe. I suppose Loren could remove the vacuum shutoff, and see if the shut-off, the hand stop lever, or neither has binding when they're apart. If the stop lever still binds, he's probably right in blaming the IP somewhere. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
The new thorium reactors look very interesting, but probably the no-nuke crowd will prevent them from seeing light of day here. If Canada or Mexico were smart, they'd build the nuke plants and sell us the power. Hey Rich, you habla spaniola, maybe we can form a business partnership to build nukes south of the border? Now we really need to figure out who the nuke guy is on the list and get him on board... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:14:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Max wrote: Not me that works in a nuke plant, but nuke is the only way to go, in my opinion. Eh... I was convinced to that point-of-view 38 years ago. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Allan, Hey, I didn't write that about the electrical distribution system. I agree with you that in most big city areas hooking up a few hundred or thousand 220v electric cars would bring about brown outs or the need for rolling blackouts. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Read the link; that guy has an excellent track record of turning his ideas into economically feasible ventures. If he had something like what you describe, I'm sure it would be on the market now if viable. Problem with solar is the energy density of sunlight is simply too low. I think you only get about 3 or 4 watts per square meter, when the sun is shining, and that amount of power is not sufficient to do very much given our current energy requirements. We're back to nuclear power again... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:31:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Curt wrote: On the news this morning they touted some solar panel company thats come up with some new manufacturing tech that is supposed to drive the cost way down which is apparently a game changer. I remember a 1978 Newsweek article about a guy named Ovshinsky that spoke about amorphous semiconductor materials. That was gonna be the game changer, described as paint one material on the side of the house, paint another material on top of that, hook up wires, and away you go. The guy's company is still around but that system has not happened, yet. That is the game changer I want to see. http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/ovshinsky.html mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent
The county/state are also spraying a lot to kill them, same situation east of the Cooper. I suspect the bird population has taken a big hit for lack of bugs to eat. Wish they'd develop sprays to kill the fire ants and the palmetto bugs... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:05:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent There is a very interesting aspect to this mosquito discussion. I live on the marsh, where mosquitoes should be thick as, I was gonna say flies but somehow that does not work, anyway, really really thick. And the last 2 years they were pretty thick as expected. This year however it has been so dry, I have seen maybe 4 mosquitoes since it got warm. It rained a bit the other day for the first time in about 2 months, and I expect there to be a hatch any time of the buggers. It is hard to decide whether the drought is good or bad since it has impeded the skeeter population. --R On 6/20/11 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: roger...@comcast.net wrote: Doesn't anyone have a car problem we can discuss or fix? Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. Actually I thought about it and my question was on topic. Have you ever been working outside or in a less than hermetically sealed garage at night on your MB and been nearly carried away by mosquitos? Ever have them biting you on the face and neck and swat them dead with sooty, oily hands? :^) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
Have you tried this with the rod going from the pump to the rest of the accelerator linkage disconnected? That would eliminate any chance of a problem in the rods and joints of the accelerator/cruise control setup. I know from experience that mis-adjustment or incorrect positioning of the rods or lengths will cause slight to total binding. Manfred Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:33:59 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent Yassir! I have a question. How come the rack in my OM603 IP takes too much pressure to move to the OFF (no fuel ) position? See the thread on to vacuum for the background, but it is getting spec vacuum at the shutoff, The shutoff does not leak. It is a metal can on top, so it is not leaky plastic by the nipple. The shutoff and vacuum system holds vacuum for days with the engine off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
There was a good article in the WSJ a few years ago, several states got bitten bad with lease agreements and subsidies, only to find out they ended up paying the leases, paying for electricity to keep the generators turning when the wind didn't blow, and when the subsidy ran out it was a money loosing proposition. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:13:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT That's a new one on me. I was out in Medicine Bow, Wyoming some years ago getting up close and personal with one of the largest wind turbines ever built, at a test site there. It was a 5MW Hamilton Standard machine, 250ft rotor diameter with the hub sitting 250ft up. They told the story that during construction, someone got the wires crossed on the thing, and someone else got the meter wires crossed too (a compound error that canceled out the fail safe). So when they first fired the thing up (so to speak) they started drawing power instead of generating power, and were quite happy to see it got up to 5MW right quick in a pretty low breeze. Then they were even more surprised to see it get to 6.5MW and thought wow, this thing is working better than we expected! Then the phone rings, and it is the Bonneville Power Authority wondering what the hell they were doing to be drawing a 6.5MW load all the sudden. All the sudden someone realizes it was running as a giant fan not a windmill, and hit the big red button real fast. Someone outside watching it wondered why the blades were bending the wrong direction too. It was a good smoke test though, and proved the design better than the tests they had planned. Go figger. I have some pictures of the thing and me up on top of it (20F, 25kt wind). --R On 6/20/11 9:23 PM, Max Dillon wrote: All the big wind generators have a motor feature to keep the blades turning when the wind isn't strong enough to do the job, because the high wind speed required to get them spinning doesn't happen often enough. Basically you have to spend some electricity to make some. Long calm spell? Wind farm will consume lots of electricity to get through it. In other words, we can't even predict the weather, let alone the climate, but that is another discussion... Max Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We've recently (well since last fall anyway) gotten 5 big (1.65MW) windmills in our area. I'm constantly amazed by how little wind it takes them to turn. I'm sure they're not making much power when they're just barely turning though... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Well, perhaps the technology has advanced or better designs are out there, or maybe I shouldn't believe everything I read and make sweeping generalizations... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:14:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT I'd heard that for horizontal blades but not big conventional type ones. I don't think thats the case here as sometimes in the morning when I go to work theres no wind and they'll be stopped, there are 2 right off my commute, on my way home they'll be spinning again. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:23:23 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Message-ID: 4bb626be-14ff-445a-b08b-53c8bd82b...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All the big wind generators have a motor feature to keep the blades turning when the wind isn't strong enough to do the job, because the high wind speed required to get them spinning doesn't happen often enough. Basically you have to spend some electricity to make some. Long calm spell? Wind farm will consume lots of electricity to get through it. In other words, we can't even predict the weather, let alone the climate, but that is another discussion... Max Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We've recently (well since last fall anyway) gotten 5 big (1.65MW) windmills in our area. I'm constantly amazed by how little wind it takes them to turn. I'm sure they're not making much power when they're just barely turning though.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible
Oops! I thought yours was a convertible, andrew. As for the picture, the 110 and 111 have fins, and the 111 has a chrome strip on the back. The 112 300 SE/SEL had the fins rounded off as in the photo, with no chrome on the back of the fins. The 112 is one of the most beautiful MBs ever built. THe car in the photo may well be a factory convertible. (cabriolet in french) It's the w111 body style, or W112 for the rare 300SE coupe or cab with air suspension. I owned a 280SE 3.5 coupe for 20 years; sold it last July. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That appears to be a 300SE or SEL 112 body. It is basically a fin car, but it has the fins rounded. The factory made cabriolets in the pontons, adenauers, and Fin Cars. I thought andrew has or had a factory cabriolet. Is this custom? Or were these convertibles actually stock? I don't know. I have three more photos of the car if anyone wants to see them. Just ran across this beauty as i rode my bicycle back from the store. Brian -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BenzConvertiblePRQuarter.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1656462 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.** com/attachments/20110619/**1647dc0a/attachment.jpghttp://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110619/1647dc0a/attachment.jpg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible - perhaps
What are the warning signs? On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: This one appears to be a chop job, just doesn't quite look right, people have been duped, thinking they are buying a factory convertible but are actually buying a cut up coupe. Saw one of these a few months ago at a car dealer. Hendrik with no chop job andrew strasfogel wrote: It's the w111 body style, or W112 for the rare 300SE coupe or cab with air suspension. I owned a 280SE 3.5 coupe for 20 years; sold it last July. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That appears to be a 300SE or SEL 112 body. It is basically a fin car, but it has the fins rounded. The factory made cabriolets in the pontons, adenauers, and Fin Cars. I thought andrew has or had a factory cabriolet. Is this custom? Or were these convertibles actually stock? I don't know. I have three more photos of the car if anyone wants to see them. Just ran across this beauty as i rode my bicycle back from the store. Brian -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BenzConvertiblePRQuarter.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1656462 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.**http://mail.okiebenz.com/**pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.** com/attachments/20110619/1647dc0a/attachment.jpghttp:/** /mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/**mercedes_okiebenz.com/** attachments/20110619/1647dc0a/**attachment.jpghttp://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110619/1647dc0a/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
Nope, but will try that. The rods are un-messed-with, so I doubt any have changed length. But binding in the linkage somewhere could have an influence. I was thinking that I needed to check the ball sockets for plastic and replace any plastic with steel boll sockets anyway. Have you tried this with the rod going from the pump to the rest of the accelerator linkage disconnected? That would eliminate any chance of a problem in the rods and joints of the accelerator/cruise control setup. I know from experience that mis-adjustment or incorrect positioning of the rods or lengths will cause slight to total binding. Manfred Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:33:59 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent Yassir! I have a question. How come the rack in my OM603 IP takes too much pressure to move to the OFF (no fuel ) position? See the thread on to vacuum for the background, but it is getting spec vacuum at the shutoff, The shutoff does not leak. It is a metal can on top, so it is not leaky plastic by the nipple. The shutoff and vacuum system holds vacuum for days with the engine off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off
No NO NO There is no way I will take off a IP just to change the shutoff. I might take the intake manifold off, but it is quicker to change the shutoff with the manifold on. The rack position sensor plug has a base that rotates normal off direction by finger, but it may be really tight and not obvious. That plug must come off to get the vacuum shut off valve off. 'Tis doable under the intake manifold, but if you pull the pump you could also do a complete re-seal at the same time and then not worry about the pump for another 100k miles. Might also be able to get a clean shot at all the glow plugs with the pump out of the way. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:06:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacu-shut-off Yeah, that is kind of what I am up to. It is a lot easier to do on the IP core on the bench, than on the working one under the intake manifold. I have been pondering buying a manifold gasket, but I think I will try taking off the ALDA and the electric plug, then pull the shutoff and see if anything is apparent. Since I have a working plastic shutoff, I may plug that in and see it if makes a difference, if nothing is apparent when I take out the old metal shutoff. Fred Moir wrote: Just a thought, if the metal shut-off vaccu-suck were to bind in its' slide, it might cause the problem that you describe. I suppose Loren could remove the vacuum shutoff, and see if the shut-off, the hand stop lever, or neither has binding when they're apart. If the stop lever still binds, he's probably right in blaming the IP somewhere. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Max Dillon wrote: Problem with solar is the energy density of sunlight is simply too low. I think you only get about 3 or 4 watts per square meter, when the sun is shining, and that amount of power is not sufficient to do very much given our current energy requirements. We're back to nuclear power again... Average over the entire planet, including the parts that are totally dark, is supposed to be around 164 W/m^2. I think solar panel rates watts are based on insolation of 1kW/m^2. From Wiki: Over the course of a year the average solar radiation arriving at the top of the Earth's atmosphere is roughly 1,366 watts per square meter[2][3] (see solar constant). The radiant power is distributed across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, although most of the power is in the visible light portion of the spectrum. The Sun's rays are attenuated as they pass though the atmosphere, thus reducing the insolation at the Earth's surface to approximately 1,000 watts per square meter for a surface perpendicular to the Sun's rays at sea level on a clear day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the job right. I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it was enough to get it to BLOW ICE COLD. --R On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Excellent! Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and recharge? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
I speak Suthrun and learning Gullah, I think we should build them South of the Border in SC, we have Savannah River, all them squids up there in the Navy who know that nukular stuff, and already produce about 2/3 of our power here from nukes. Let's get Nikki to build a bunch more and sell power to the Yankees and charge them lots of money for it. --R On 6/21/11 8:26 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Hey Rich, you habla spaniola, maybe we can form a business partnership to build nukes south of the border? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive. Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E. I replaced the headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was unsure of the success without doing so. I removed the entire headliner cast plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car. Bought headliner material for about $50 online. Close in texture and color, and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield). It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff correctly. Hth, -Howard On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap '87 300TD alert for Texas - CC area
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=287160 Needs head-gasket or new engine. Nice looking car. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Thanks Howard, if you remember which adhesive I'd like to know. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Howard Ginsberg mbkindof...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:52:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options I used the 3M 77 or 90 (can't remember which), aerosol/spray adhesive. Lasted for at least 2 years before I sold that 1993 300E. I replaced the headliner material, though, as I could not remove the old adhesive and was unsure of the success without doing so. I removed the entire headliner cast plastic/fiberglass and did the replacement of the material outside the car. Bought headliner material for about $50 online. Close in texture and color, and once it was back in the car, hardly noticed the difference between the headliner and the original material (the wings near the rear windshield). It was quite a job, taking about 6-8 hours total, including the removal and replacement of the cast plastic/fiberglass, and carefully cutting up the new material (using the old stuff as a pattern), and applying the new stuff correctly. Hth, -Howard On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Still have to take the radiator out to check the back side of the condenser. Of course, at this point is wouldn't hurt to just buy one and change it, for that matter, it's likely crapped up on the inside anyway. Peter -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Jun 21, 2011 6:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD Soap and water will help find that leak quickly. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:04:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD They work fine IF the condenser is clean and there is no air in the system (and no leaks, of course). My 300D was so cold in the highway there was condensation blowing out the vents! However, I still have a leak, I suspect in the condenser or the evaporator. I'm hoping condenser, as I heard a hiss up there. Easier to replace. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Looking at the 3M website, I see 77, 90, and 8088. Product data sheet for 8088 specifically mentions use for installing headliners. Anybody try the 8088? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:18:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
? On 6/21/11 9:22 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the job right. I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it was enough to get it to BLOW ICE COLD. --R On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Excellent! Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and recharge? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Congratulations! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Rich wrote: 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. Speaking of hot temps and cold air: My a/c works well, but a week ago when it was in the 90's and 100's, my a/c was not keeping up. I have a 95 124, so I am leary of the evap problem. At temps below 95 or so, the a/c does great. It froze me out this morning. But, I am wondering if I need to add some 134 or do some other preventative maintenance. I bought a can of 134 last year and a cheap low pressure hose/gauge. The pressure is around 40 depending on ambient temp etc. According to the gauge that is in the normal range, but approaching too high. Was is the low side pressure supposed to be? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Congratulations as well !! All the best to you and the Mrs. and baby. May life bless all of you with many happy days and rich rewards. Just think, sooner than you can wink you will be ask for the car keys.. hahaha... Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
That is great new! Congratulations Papa Snook, glad to hear and see you're back on the list. Finish the house by September, then drive your family out to Atlanta on 10 (? or 11th?) September and show off the little one at the Rusty-Q. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:56:50 AM Subject: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Did you increase the engine speed to ~2000 rpm when measuring the low pressure side? Also need to set AC on coldest setting, leave windows down, and let it stabilize by running for about 10 minutes (but you can drive around for 10 minutes to get the system stabilized if you like). Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:02:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD Rich wrote: 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. Speaking of hot temps and cold air: My a/c works well, but a week ago when it was in the 90's and 100's, my a/c was not keeping up. I have a 95 124, so I am leary of the evap problem. At temps below 95 or so, the a/c does great. It froze me out this morning. But, I am wondering if I need to add some 134 or do some other preventative maintenance. I bought a can of 134 last year and a cheap low pressure hose/gauge. The pressure is around 40 depending on ambient temp etc. According to the gauge that is in the normal range, but approaching too high. Was is the low side pressure supposed to be? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 134a expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ON topic? - was: OT Mosquito Repellent
Misquitoes are also attracted to diabetics. Here's are explanations of other factors: http://www.dld123.com/about/about.php?id=A53 Gerry - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com I've been told that mosquitoes are attracted to the CO2 we breath out. Could be each of us have a different CO2 profile or could be they are attracted to some perfume or girlie thing she uses, like skin cream or soap. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:23 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Rick, I don't know why mosquitoes like some people and not others. My wife and I can go outside in the evening and the mosquitoes will be attacking her and they don't bother me. When I was young and drank a bit, I figured it was because if they sucked my blood it would make them fly crooked. But now that I'm older and don't drink, they still don't bother me. Go figure. Maybe I don't taste good to them. If I could figure out why, I could market myself (dead skin cell solution or whatever) and make some money for retirement :-))) I could be the human version of kudzu to kill/repel insects. Sorry to hear you are one of the people that mosquitoes like. I know they give my wife fits. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. I'll read up in the books on Mac. Might be something there. Gerry - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy! -Curt From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com As a very uninformed MacBook newby, I start mine by pushing the on button and immediately closing the lid on the MacBook. Otherwise the background screen comes up on the Dell 19 monitor but nothing else. Found this by accident; may be the way everyone starts their Mac/Monitor. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL
My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times before it will start. Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while before it finally settles down and works fine. Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a fix. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL
It is your cruise amplifier. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times before it will start. Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while before it finally settles down and works fine. Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a fix. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
Take a look in the monitor system preference. I haven't done it in awhile but its not all that hard. I can't help you right now as I don't have the little woggle to put a second monitor on my Mac. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:56:58 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor Message-ID: FFF492CDEBF24CDDA58A2737F34F40CD@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. I'll read up in the books on Mac. Might be something there. Gerry - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Couldn't get it to work. Â Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. That's a feature, not a bug. ;) The external monitor isn't supposed to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it. The menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at once. You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a great productivity booster. Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Great news, Donald! Tell us about the little one and about your new house. Gerry --- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle. The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while the 8090 is not. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Welcome back, Donald! Congrats on the house, and more importantly, the niblet! So much for any spare time, as you no doubt have discovered by now... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
CONGRATULATIONS! enjoy being a parent, it only gets. more so. clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use times -the middle of the day afternoon. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: roger...@comcast.net writes: As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place? We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v outlets to get better charge times. I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs being recharged every evening. A lot of urban areas operate right on the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it is. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
OK Don wrote: Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use times -the middle of the day afternoon. And there's talk of giving discounts to people who let the utility remote control the charger, so they can use your cars as waste dumps for excess nighttime juice. There's also talk of you not making it home from work the next day if the utility has a problem with output one night, or if there's a giant need for nighttime air conditioning and the utility doesn't turn on your charger. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
So maybe we need to convert to the metric system and the standard outlet is now 220v. I know I did this for my server farm here at work, all servers are on 220v. I really don't think we sill see a solution in this current decade. Here you can see what Calif is demanding for electricity http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html Rory On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use times -the middle of the day afternoon. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: roger...@comcast.net writes: As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place? We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v outlets to get better charge times. I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs being recharged every evening. A lot of urban areas operate right on the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it is. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
I'll try to find it tonight and report back. Thanks, Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Take a look in the monitor system preference. I haven't done it in awhile but its not all that hard. I can't help you right now as I don't have the little woggle to put a second monitor on my Mac. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:56:58 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. I'll read up in the books on Mac. Might be something there. Gerry - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com But if you leave it open you're getting DUAL monitors... Run your mouse sideways and see if you can't get onto the second monitor. Very handy! -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. Alex wrote: That's a feature, not a bug. ;) The external monitor isn't supposed to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it. The menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at once. You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a great productivity booster. G: Got it to work! Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise! Alex No problem. I know little about Macs other than Mail and Safari, and not a lot about them. Appreciate the info. Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
Florida has the biggest misquitoes. Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay. One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood. The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him away from us. Gerry --- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, Max Dillon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options
Thanks Dan, now I just need to find the time! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options 8090 is really wicked stuff that is often used for weatherstripping and door panels. It sticks like you cannot imagine, but is difficult to handle. The 8088 is far better and easier to handle. It's also more forgiving, while the 8090 is not. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yep, just read the product data sheet for the 8088 and the 8090 Yellow SUPER Trim Adhesive. 8090 seems to be the highest strength with best heat resistance (i.e. for hood pads) but warns about bleed-thru on lighter fabrics, so probably will make a mess if used on my headliner issue. 8088 plus the 8984 adhesive trim cleaner to prep the surfaces before applying, multiple light coats on both surfaces; looks like the way to go... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Headliner Repair Options You want 3M 8088 upholstery adhesive. 8087 is the lighter weight version and intended for things like panels and cloth coverings. NAPA can get it for you, or any decent auto body supplier. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard is right on with this. 3M offers two kinds of upholstery adhesives, and I would recommend using the more powerful of the two (it's the higher number.) If you follow the instructions I am sure it will last for a long time. 3M makes good stuff that does what it says. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gentle Readers, Who has re-glued a 124 headliner (or other similar) and had it last for more than a year or two? What is the recommended adhesive? Any other tips, tricks, or different ways (i.e. mechanical) to re-attach the darn thing? Local quote to repair a falling headliner is $400 or $500!!! Maybe I'll start a headliner repair business instead of a nuke plant business. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL
Which car? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:03:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times before it will start. Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while before it finally settles down and works fine. Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a fix. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
I think the evaporator is also different. On my '87 wagon, once I get the new head on, I'm going to try that ES-12 stuff the Jaime posted a while back, keep the r12 expansion valve (may replace with a new part). If that doesn't work out, will try a r134 expansion valve with r134. Speaking of the new head, machine shop reports that it checks out just fine, but they couldn't source the valve guide seals so I called Mr. Q to resolve that. Hope to have the new head later this week or early next week, still need to get the old head off though. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:29:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 134a expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
Fail! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:54:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD ? On 6/21/11 9:22 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No this car had been done by a shop, and it looks like they did the job right. I dumped a can of 134 in it a coupla weeks ago, I guess it was enough to get it to BLOW ICE COLD. --R On 6/21/11 7:14 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Excellent! Did you flush any components or just repair leaks, new drier and recharge? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:28:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD 96F this afternoon, the 134 converted Mamabenz was BLOWING ICE COLD. It was even making condensation on the outside of the windshield at the base above the vents. I was impressed. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL
Never mind, just read the rest of the subject line... Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL Which car? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 12:03:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] cruise control issues for 126, '87 300SDL My cruise control is starting to perform some erratic behaviour. Initially it will not engage, and I have to continue to try engaging numerous times before it will start. Once starting, it surges on and off for quite a while before it finally settles down and works fine. Sounds like a vacuum issue, but I don't know where to start looking for a fix. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dry sumps
And not to forget, one of the big reasons for a dry sump, is no oil starvation when cornering through longer corners. Other none dry sump cars that are subjects to heavy g loads in corners, will often add baffles in the pan, to stop all the sloshing about, or the oil being thrown to one side in corners. A 911 will hold 2-3 quarts in the lower part of the engine, with about 7 or so quarts in the aux oil tank. Both are drained seperately in an old p car. Ed 300E On 20 June 2011 19:41, relng...@aol.com wrote: A dry sump is the term for an oil pan where the oil isn't left in the sump. A lot of race applications use them in order to have a higher oil capacity and reduce the chance of sucking an air bubble if the oil sloshes... The MB 6.9 used a dry sump for ground clearance. All flat six Porsches were dry sump engines (from 1965) for more oil capacity for cooling plus the engine could be lower to lower the center of gravity. Adding one to a street car for other reasons is pointless. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Classic Cars?
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
Firebird's are always good, as are Stangs an Corvettes. Maybe an old Packard if you can find a shell cheap? Walt On Jun 21, 2011 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor
Screen sharing versus screen mirroring. Sharing makes a giant desktop (also known as an extended desktop) out of the two monitors, with the primary monitor having the dock and desktop icons on it. Screen mirroring is just what it describes. You will have the same image (desktop) on each monitor, as the new one mirrors the main monitor. This is typical when you are using a projector, for example. MacDan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Couldn't get it to work. Tried both Macbook mouse and usb mouse in all directions but data buttons wouldn't come up on the external monitor. Alex wrote: That's a feature, not a bug. ;) The external monitor isn't supposed to replace the laptop screen, it's supposed to supplement it. The menus and Dock icons (buttons at the bottom of the screen) stay on the first, and you can drag windows over to the second and use both at once. You can change this behavior in the Display Preferences (so that both screens show the same thing), but most people find that once you get used to it, having a desktop spanning multiple screens is a great productivity booster. G: Got it to work! Apologies in advance if I am telling you something you already know and your problem is something else: I'm not intending to condescend here, but have found that for a lot of new Mac owners the default behavior of multiple monitors is a confusing surprise! Alex No problem. I know little about Macs other than Mail and Safari, and not a lot about them. Appreciate the info. Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
Randy Bennell wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was destined for scrap or parting out, why not use it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car. Having said that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering columns, etc., along with proper belts. I prefer hardtops over drop tops, not that the old ones offered great roll over protection. Partial rollover bars can be added if you want. More than crash protection, I think with these old machines, building in crash avoidance wherever you can (like modern disk brakes, etc), and most of all, driving it with the respect that an old car with limited crash protection offers, is the way to go. The benefit of going to a muscle car, or building a musle car, is that there are many vendors offereing body and mechanical bits for cars like Stangs and Chevs. With a true rod, many of the bits will most like have to be custom, and I'm now sure that really the way to go for a first time project. There are lots of part finished rods sitting around, were people just got tired of them, and walked away. Either way, good luck with the venture. Ed 300E On 21 June 2011 14:54, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
Caprice Classic wagon? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald! Tell us about the little one and about your new house. Ok. The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born. We arrived the day after he was born. He was 4 weeks premature, but was healthy. He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck - swallow - breath instinct. He would wear himself out trying to eat. He did very well and gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect. He was there for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork to go through. We came home on April 17th. He had already gained significant weight. He is perfect. Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he actually looks like me. He really does. He is now almost 3 months old. He has gained twice as much weight as the doctor's want him to. He hasn't quite caught up to a full term 3 month old, but he is close. He is a very happy baby, but he still hasn't mastered sleeping through the night. He has really big hands and feet and he is a ham. Lots of personality and he turned over on his 1 month birthday. So, Im sure he is going to be an over-achiever! :) He just had his first cold this weekend and he weighs almost 11 pounds! The house is a big ass ranch. VERY different from the previous house. The previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor. It had beautiful hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master bathroom, a detached garage and a small yard. It was also the most expensive house on the block and the neighborhood was really declining. The new house was built in 1979. AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow -wow 70's glam. Lots of paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly wallpaper, and one room with floor to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors! But, it also has 3500 sg. Ft, 3 bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open rooms, a finished basement, a huge deck a walk in closet, an attached oversized garage and its 50 YEARS newer. So, we have been tearing down wallpaper and painting, and remodeling. Its going a little slower than expected with the new kid. The really odd thing is since the market is down, we actually bought this house $30,000 below appraisal and for the same price we were trying to sell our old house for. Instead of being the most expensive house in a declining neighborhood, we have the cheapest house in a very nice neighborhood. My neighbor and I have already bonded. He has a 500E. It is BEAUTIFUL. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Yup and many states have net metering laws which force the utility to buy electricity from all producers. Some net metering laws even pay a higher price during peak demand. The other thing to go right with this is smart meters which charge you more during high demand periods. It would suddenly push all users to conserve during the day and move loads like washing machines and dryers to the evening when demand is lower. Most home EV charging would be in the evening or night so I think the old it'll drive the electrical grid to its knees argument is bunk. Also worth remembering is that these cars won't just appear overnight. As the grid is stressed the utilities can do what they should have been doing all along and add additional capacity... -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:54:39 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Message-ID: BANLkTi=5PPq5FhF3RpEPFiwZJxF=ruu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use times -the middle of the day afternoon. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: roger...@comcast.net writes: As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place? We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v outlets to get better charge times. I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs being recharged every evening. A lot of urban areas operate right on the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it is. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
What does the metric system have to do with it? My dryer runs on 220v, my electric stove runs on 220v, my air conditioner runs on 220v. At some point I'll have 220v in the garage because 220v welders have better duty cycles and a 220v air compressor can have a more powerful motor for better recycle time. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:02:01 -0700 From: Rory amsoil...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT Message-ID: BANLkTi=-wbfkgub05+xu94ec4zeorq8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So maybe we need to convert to the metric system and the standard outlet is now 220v. I know I did this for my server farm here at work, all servers are on 220v. I really don't think we sill see a solution in this current decade. Here you can see what Calif is demanding for electricity http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html Rory ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
On 21/06/2011 2:10 PM, E M wrote: No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car. Having said that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering columns, etc., along with proper belts. I prefer hardtops over drop tops, not that the old ones offered great roll over protection. Partial rollover bars can be added if you want. More than crash protection, I think with these old machines, building in crash avoidance wherever you can (like modern disk brakes, etc), and most of all, driving it with the respect that an old car with limited crash protection offers, is the way to go. The benefit of going to a muscle car, or building a musle car, is that there are many vendors offereing body and mechanical bits for cars like Stangs and Chevs. With a true rod, many of the bits will most like have to be custom, and I'm now sure that really the way to go for a first time project. There are lots of part finished rods sitting around, were people just got tired of them, and walked away. Either way, good luck with the venture. Ed 300E On 21 June 2011 14:54, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy _ http://www.sandalefabrication.com/ This is where he works. Custom fabrication is their thing. He is not one of the fabricators. He is a licenced mechanic. They have other people who are designated fabricators and welders etc. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
On 21/06/2011 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was destined for scrap or parting out, why not use it? As I said, sort of, I might want to do that but he won't. He has little or no interest in my 300D. He thinks it should be lowered and have big wheels etc. I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
I like the Caprice or Impala SS from the early 90's. Not so many around now though. There were lots of cheap beat up ones at one time as the police forces used them. My son might be convinced to go for something like that. He needs it to be good sized as he is 6'3. Randy On 21/06/2011 2:16 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Caprice Classic wagon? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
I wish you all the best, glad to hear everything is going good! Walt On Jun 21, 2011 3:35 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald! Tell us about the little one and about your new house. Ok. The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born. We arrived the day after he was born. He was 4 weeks premature, but was healthy. He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck - swallow - breath instinct. He would wear himself out trying to eat. He did very well and gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect. He was there for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork to go through. We came home on April 17th. He had already gained significant weight. He is perfect. Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he actually looks like me. He really does. He is now almost 3 months old. He has gained twice as much weight as the doctor's want him to. He hasn't quite caught up to a full term 3 month old, but he is close. He is a very happy baby, but he still hasn't mastered sleeping through the night. He has really big hands and feet and he is a ham. Lots of personality and he turned over on his 1 month birthday. So, Im sure he is going to be an over-achiever! :) He just had his first cold this weekend and he weighs almost 11 pounds! The house is a big ass ranch. VERY different from the previous house. The previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor. It had beautiful hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master bathroom, a detached garage and a small yard. It was also the most expensive house on the block and the neighborhood was really declining. The new house was built in 1979. AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow -wow 70's glam. Lots of paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly wallpaper, and one room with floor to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors! But, it also has 3500 sg. Ft, 3 bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open rooms, a finished basement, a huge deck a walk in closet, an attached oversized garage and its 50 YEARS newer. So, we have been tearing down wallpaper and painting, and remodeling. Its going a little slower than expected with the new kid. The really odd thing is since the market is down, we actually bought this house $30,000 below appraisal and for the same price we were trying to sell our old house for. Instead of being the most expensive house in a declining neighborhood, we have the cheapest house in a very nice neighborhood. My neighbor and I have already bonded. He has a 500E. It is BEAUTIFUL. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy Bennell wrote: I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either. Marshall looked into it and bought a new finnie right after his wife was killed in an old Chevy or similar. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? How about a big old Cadillac from the '70s or early '80s, before they downsized and went to FWD? Drop a built SBC in there with a tall-geared transmission and rear end and you'd get performance way better than stock and decent gas mileage to boot. You could surprise a lot of souped-up Hondas at stop lights with that setup. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Max Dillon wrote: Caprice Classic wagon? Kingswood or Vista Cruiser. Mit chromed Keystone Classics. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this little car/concept. It is now being produced and is scheduled for import, I think. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491 No plug in, no long down time while batteries recharge [with the proper support systems in place] . No heavy batteries to carry around so overall weight of car is greatly less than EV's. Plus claimed 200 mile range on one charge of air, plus the engine also can run on gasoline for extreme mileage. The car runs on compressed air but engine is also rigged to run on gas so you are never left out and empty.. I've been following the designer for some years [a frenchman] and it's now licensed for production in India. Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I read somewhere that the electrical utilities are encouraging EVs because they build the capacity for the peaks - and have difficulty dealing with the valleys. The EVs are expected to be charging after the peak use times -the middle of the day afternoon. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: roger...@comcast.net writes: As for no distribution system you got no outlets at your place? We've got a HUGE distribution system. What we'll need is more 220v outlets to get better charge times. I have my doubts whether the current electical infrastructure in many areas would be up to handling the additional load of thousands of EVs being recharged every evening. A lot of urban areas operate right on the borderline of brown-outs/rolling blackouts during the summer as it is. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
G Mann wrote: On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this little car/concept. It is now being produced and is scheduled for import, I think. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491 I've got to assume that compressed air is just another severely inefficient battery. (although energy density per pound might be high, energy out per energy in is going to be very low) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story... hahahahhaha. However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze. Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this afternoon with NO skeeters. Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Florida has the biggest misquitoes. Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay. One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood. The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him away from us. Gerry --**- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, Max Dillon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Seriously? Nothing... A newer car will just allow him to get killed in a more interesting way. He'll also drive himself broke in a hurry. Maybe help him learn some of the excitement of planning for his future. Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight face either. ;) I think you've got the feel for it, I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? On the MB front I'd say something like a 560SE with a blower, lowered with fancy wheels. The car will handle better than most mid '80s US iron to begin with and should tolerate moderate hop up well. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:54:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID: 4e00e8cb.1080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] : The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....
Curt Raymond wrote: As the grid is stressed the utilities can do what they should have been doing all along and add additional capacity... The grid is already stressed. And the environmental laws have made it _tough_ to add capacity. As I understand, the growth in the last dozen years or so has been at the expense of capacity buffer. That is, rather than building new generation plants to keep up with current and anticipated growth, the system has just dipped into the built in deal-with-emergencies buffer capacity. Meaning there is very little buffer left. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy Bennell wrote: I like the Caprice or Impala SS from the early 90's. Not so many around now though. There were lots of cheap beat up ones at one time as the police forces used them. My son might be convinced to go for something like that. He needs it to be good sized as he is 6'3. 1980 Old Cutlass Supreme coupe. With a Olds 455 big block. :) --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually, the guys design is pretty ingenious. It's a compound engine that uses several tricks that are pretty neat to maximize the stored energy of the compressed air. The compressed air tanks are recharged either externally, or through a rather ingenious system that uses fuel [this thing will use almost anything that burns for fuel it seems]. The system is an external combustion system that is much like a steam engine of the 1800's only on steroids, hence the extreme range claims. As with all such claims, the proof comes in the hands of the complete and total mechanical idiots it will be sold to. if it passes that gauntlet, it has a chance. Until then, I follow the concept with some interest. Thought perhaps some here might find interest as well. Grant... 82 300D AZ 83 300SD...AZ On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: G Mann wrote: On the subject of saving the environment, some of you may have seen this little car/concept. It is now being produced and is scheduled for import, I think. http://www.popularmechanics.**com/cars/news/preview-concept/**4251491http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4251491 I've got to assume that compressed air is just another severely inefficient battery. (although energy density per pound might be high, energy out per energy in is going to be very low) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny? (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course) Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H .. Safety AND Horsepower. OK.. A two door Volvo with an old school Chrysler Hemi , one that makes 1000 HP with blower and Zoomie headers? Somehow young guy + Volvo + 1000 HP Hemi blown engine na doesn't compute for safety... What ever he builds encourage him to give it the full roll cage / 5 point harness / fire suppression system / etc etc treatment it's way cool to have to strap on before you unleash way to much HP... right? Safety starts with the right attitude towards self injury. Good luck, Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny? (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course) Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow, a real job! How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg? Andrew On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny? (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course) Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Mustangs uncool? Must be a regional thing. Out here on the West Coast the '80s Fox-platform 'Stangs are ridiculously popular with hot-rodders. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 21/06/2011 3:43 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Seriously? Nothing... A newer car will just allow him to get killed in a more interesting way. He'll also drive himself broke in a hurry. Maybe help him learn some of the excitement of planning for his future. Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight face either. ;) I think you've got the feel for it, I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? On the MB front I'd say something like a 560SE with a blower, lowered with fancy wheels. The car will handle better than most mid '80s US iron to begin with and should tolerate moderate hop up well. -Curt I have been urging him to start saving for his retirement and for a home too. I wish someone had pushed me a bit harder to save for retirement when I was his age. Put away even $50 from each paycheque and after 40 years one should have a nice little nest egg. He also won't wish to live in a rented apartment forever and will need a good down payment even to look at a house these days. I know things are not rosy in the US housing market these days but so far, here, it is still going up. One pays $250K plus for a 1000 sq foot bungalow in an area one might be willing to live in. Properties here still have bidding wars with people paying $20K over asking prices. Won't last forever but won't necessarily drop back a whole lot either so even a minimal down payment and basic closing costs will run $15K or better. That is one of the reasons I am thinking of helping him do something about a project car. He and his girl are both driving older cars now and they won't last forever either. If they have to upgrade or replace their daily drivers then that money has to come from somewhere too. I am not talking about spending a fortune but just about trying to help him move forward with his wish to do that sort of thing while still trying to save some money for other more practical purposes. I spoil my kids I guess. My mother thinks so anyway. He has been pretty good at not totally squandering his earnings. He has a whole whack of good quality tools and more fishing equipment than some stores. We have provided a series of boats and encouraged his interest in fishing. We started out reasonably inexpensively with a light aluminum boat and 10 HP motor and then moved up to a bigger aluminum boat with a 35Hp and then to a 16 foot Alumacraft with a 70 HP motor. All told I have about $6K invested in the boat, trailer etc as we had the 70 HP left from another boat that was sold. Much of the money came back out of the earlier boats. I made money on the first one and broke even on the 2nd one after some significant repairs to it. We have also provided a series of vehicles for him to drive. Nothing really fancy or expensive but he has not had to buy his own. He has covered most of his fuel and some repairs during the time when he was an apprentice and working for lower wages. Some of this is an offset as his elder brother got a Masters Degree with us footing the bill. Younger brother was not so interested in University so he went into the trades and we did not hhve to pay so much for tuition and things like laptop computers. Sort of moved off topic here. He would no doubt like something like a late 60's Chevelle with a big block. I am a bit more concerned about fuel costs. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not far. Just over the floodway on 59 going south. Before one gets to Ile de Chenes. Randy On 21/06/2011 4:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Wow, a real job! How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg? Andrew On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny? (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course) Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a turbo Neon or Cobalt SS, in a Fiero, X 1/9, or MR2. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 21/06/2011 4:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Mustangs uncool? Must be a regional thing. Out here on the West Coast the '80s Fox-platform 'Stangs are ridiculously popular with hot-rodders. Alex I like the Mustangs but it is generally less expensive to build Chevy power and I cannot say I would be one to put a Chevy in a Ford. Just seems wrong. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just yesterday I was thinking about this for some reason unclear. Anyway, what I came up with was to get an 80s extended cab S-10/15 pickup (I had an 83 ext cab, and liked it which is why I thought of it, I think that was the first year for them) and do some chopping and dropping, put in a 350 and fix up the suspension, maybe bag it, roll cage, some nice seats and such. Maybe more rat rod than something polished, but would still be fun. I'm sure you could find the bits for something like that for next to nothing, down south where it wouldn't be all rusty, and just build it up as you went and got a few $$. --R On 6/21/11 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right now. He has moved out onto his own with his girl friend and they are learning to pay rent etc. So, my reason for posting this is to ask a question. What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? Please do not say Mercedes unless you wish to hear tales of how we stuffed a small block Chevy into it as that is the most likely result. I could go for one of the gasser MB's but he will not wish to do so and the point of this is him rather than me. I am sort of guessing that newer is generally better to some extent. For example, one of the 80's Chevy Monte Carlos or Mustangs is likely a better choice than a 55 Chevy in terms of accident protection. He will not be concerned about this sort of thing, but I am and as his father, I would like to steer him in that direction without disclosing that as my purpose. So, what think you all? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Congratulations on both additions On 6/21/2011 9:56 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Hello Mercedes List! I have been out of pocket for a while and am finally catching up. Some of you probably know about our Adoption saga. We tried to adopt a baby back in December/January. That fell through. It's a long story. BUT, we persevered and it paid off. We adopted a baby back in March. He was born March 27th and he is happy and healthy! He was born 4 weeks premature and spent 3 weeks in Neonatal ICU. But, we have been home since mid april and he is doing great. His name is Henry Richard Atticus Snook. The crazy thing is we had no idea about him until the day he was born. A month before, we sold our house and had purchased another one. We were supposed to close March 29th on both of them. On the afternoon of the 27th as we were moving our stuff, our lawyer called and said, there is a baby in Iowa being born today and we sent your profile. The following morning, he called and said, they picked you and you have to come to Iowa NOW! We hadn't even finished moving and were supposed to close the next day. My in laws finished moving us, and we went to Iowa! Many more details to the story. But, suffice it to say, he is doing great, we are working on new house and I finally have some time to get back into the Mercedes digests! Anyway, its good to be back. Donald H. Snook 1995 Mercedes E320 105K 2010 Dodge Charger (her car!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3717 - Release Date: 06/21/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
Where are you in AZ? Bob R On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story... hahahahhaha. However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze. Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this afternoon with NO skeeters. Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Florida has the biggest misquitoes. Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay. One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood. The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him away from us. Gerry --**- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, Max Dillon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
Two places, Phoenix and a Ranch 90 miles west in the desert. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you in AZ? Bob R On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story... hahahahhaha. However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze. Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this afternoon with NO skeeters. Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Florida has the biggest misquitoes. Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay. One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood. The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him away from us. Gerry --**- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, Max Dillon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mosquito Repellent
I live in Goodyear, I work at Palo Verde.Where is your ranch? Bob R On Jun 21, 2011 3:41 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Two places, Phoenix and a Ranch 90 miles west in the desert. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you in AZ? Bob R On Jun 21, 2011 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Golllie Mr. Dillion... that's some powerful good fish story... hahahahhaha. However, I didn't think Wisconsin has summer only two days of bad sledding between spring thaw and fall freeze. Since I managed to pick up malaria in Africa I've stayed away from mosquitoes. I'll just enjoy Arizona where it's a balmy 113 F here this afternoon with NO skeeters. Grant... On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Florida has the biggest misquitoes. Two misquitoes caught a man near Tampa Bay. One said, Let's take him down to the Everglades and suck out his blood. The other one said, No. Those big misquitoes down there will take him away from us. Gerry --**- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net In Wisconsin one summer eve I was out fishing with a friend and the mosquitoes got really bad. Buzzing was so loud we had to shout to be heard. We were catching some nice muskie and so wanted to stick it out, but once the sun went down the onslaught from the Wisconsin State Bird was just too awful. We were in a shallow spot but a little far from the the boat landing, decided to flip the boat over and get underneath to escape from the pests. We thought that was pretty clever, but it pissed off the blood suckers, and we could hear them and feel them gathering on the outside of the wooden hull. They started sticking their stingers through the hull to try to get us, my buddy got the hammer out of the tool box and fought back by pounding their stingers over so they couldn't pull them back out. After we'd pounded about 15 or so flat against the hull, the combined lift of those mosquitoes was enough to lift the boat off of us and carry it away. We managed to keep all the fish we'd caught, swam (mostly underwater) to shore and ran to the truck and called it a night. Never did find that boat. Very respectfully, Max Dillon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD
For valve seals, ALWAYS use either Gen-u-wine MB from the stealership, or from Mr. Q or at least OE from Rusty. Never, EVER let a machine shop get valves seals for you. Gen-u-wine, even from a stealership at 3x the list price are a lot cheaper than a do-over. I think the evaporator is also different. On my '87 wagon, once I get the new head on, I'm going to try that ES-12 stuff the Jaime posted a while back, keep the r12 expansion valve (may replace with a new part). If that doesn't work out, will try a r134 expansion valve with r134. Speaking of the new head, machine shop reports that it checks out just fine, but they couldn't source the valve guide seals so I called Mr. Q to resolve that. Hope to have the new head later this week or early next week, still need to get the old head off though. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 11:29:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC BLOWS ICE COLD Isn't there a different 134a condensor?If you got that, and the 134a expnsion valve, I think you;d have a made for 134 system ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back from Obscurity
Donald, Congratulations! It is weird to read this information here, because I have just gone through similar trials. I have not been active on the Mercedes list for some time. We found out our baby would have a birth defect (which has turned out less severe than it could have been - it can be fixed by surgery and there may be no lasting effects). But our baby was born 10 weeks early. We were in the NICU for, I believe, over 10 weeks. Your description of the suck, swallow, breathe problems is VERY familiar. And the tiring out thing as well. The speech therapist at the hospital says it's like running a marathon - eating for a preemie. Anyway, if you have any questions or things to share, you can contact me on, or off list. Sounds like your baby is doing somewhat better than ours in terms of eating and weight gain. The hospital wants her to eat so much more than she does. In fact, she is not even meeting 80% of what was required of her in order to get discharged from the hospital. I have managed to hang on to our 83 240D but have devoted no time to it. Still sits in our garage with a clutch system leak and dead battery. There is pressure to get rid of it, but I don't really want to! brian On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gerry wrote: Great news, Donald! Tell us about the little one and about your new house. Ok. The Little one (Henry) weighed 5 lbs 4 ounces when he was born. We arrived the day after he was born. He was 4 weeks premature, but was healthy. He was just a little small and he had trouble with the suck - swallow - breath instinct. He would wear himself out trying to eat. He did very well and gained weight everyday. All his other development was perfect. He was there for 2.5 weeks and then we had to wait for adoption paperwork to go through. We came home on April 17th. He had already gained significant weight. He is perfect. Blondish hair blue eyes. Oddly, he actually looks like me. He really does. He is now almost 3 months old. He has gained twice as much weight as the doctor's want him to. He hasn't quite caught up to a full term 3 month old, but he is close. He is a very happy baby, but he still hasn't mastered sleeping through the night. He has really big hands and feet and he is a ham. Lots of personality and he turned over on his 1 month birthday. So, Im sure he is going to be an over-achiever! :) He just had his first cold this weekend and he weighs almost 11 pounds! The house is a big ass ranch. VERY different from the previous house. The previous house was a very nice 1929 brick English Tudor. It had beautiful hardwoods and fantastic wood trim and some really amazing architectural details. However, it had small cramped rooms, tiny closets, no master bathroom, a detached garage and a small yard. It was also the most expensive house on the block and the neighborhood was really declining. The new house was built in 1979. AND it is chock full of boom -chicka - wow -wow 70's glam. Lots of paneling, lots of chain light fixtures, ugly wallpaper, and one room with floor to ceiling and wall to wall mirrors! But, it also has 3500 sg. Ft, 3 bathrooms, a half acre yard, wide open rooms, a finished basement, a huge deck a walk in closet, an attached oversized garage and its 50 YEARS newer. So, we have been tearing down wallpaper and painting, and remodeling. Its going a little slower than expected with the new kid. The really odd thing is since the market is down, we actually bought this house $30,000 below appraisal and for the same price we were trying to sell our old house for. Instead of being the most expensive house in a declining neighborhood, we have the cheapest house in a very nice neighborhood. My neighbor and I have already bonded. He has a 500E. It is BEAUTIFUL. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com