[MBZ] 1980 300TD Fails
The 1980 300TD that someone was trying to flip on eBay closed last night for $19,800. The previous auction (where this seller presumably bought the car) was over $20k. Ouch! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300TD Fails
Dan Penoff wrote: The 1980 300TD that someone was trying to flip on eBay closed last night for $19,800. The previous auction (where this seller presumably bought the car) was over $20k. Ouch! I don't know if it was a flip or he just changed his mind. From $20,200 to 19,800 isn't the worst hit in the world: http://bringatrailer.com/2012/09/02/extra-sorted-euro-1980-mercedes-benz-300td/ Maybe the guy who bought this one did better: http://bringatrailer.com/2011/10/17/euro-1980-mercedes-benz-300td-wagon/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300TD Fails
True, but if he did the additional work that was listed in the auction, he's certainly under water - not to mention the expense of getting it to Milwaukee. Dan On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: The 1980 300TD that someone was trying to flip on eBay closed last night for $19,800. The previous auction (where this seller presumably bought the car) was over $20k. Ouch! I don't know if it was a flip or he just changed his mind. From $20,200 to 19,800 isn't the worst hit in the world: http://bringatrailer.com/2012/09/02/extra-sorted-euro-1980-mercedes-benz-300td/ Maybe the guy who bought this one did better: http://bringatrailer.com/2011/10/17/euro-1980-mercedes-benz-300td-wagon/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interviewing
Many years ago two of us developed a system of interviewing that proved perfect in finding the best engineering dept candidates. We had about a dozen characteristics we pursued. They ranged from appearance to technical qualification. A candidate was average, below or above. We interviewed for 30 minutes then gave the candidate a brief writing exercise while we reviewed our evaluations to that point. Then back for another 10 minutes of interviewing. We had to agree on each point or we further explored that characteristic. Our selection always gave us excellent candidates. All this before affirmative action of course. My favorite question was; have you ever worked for a boneheaded supervisor? What great answers. Burt Anderson ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
Ethelred?? Wazzat? On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Glad you found a buyer, Jim. Congrats! Now finish counting the money and hand it over to SWMBO grin Dan On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Today the car sold, $3000 to a local buyer. She was recently divorced, and getting herself a birthday present. She didn't seem to mind that it was a bit of a project; that it was $5000 less than any other SL for sale locally might have had something to do with that. I'm so happy! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
Ethelred?? Wazzat? Ethelred the Unready, our 380SL-no-more. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:00:29 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Sounds like a plan If you come, I'll let you have a 240D engine and manual transmission. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preppin for the Q
Please post for all of us. I always enjoy seeing what y'all are up to. Randy On 07/09/2012 9:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: You're in luck. I always take step by step photos of all my rust repairs:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: I would love to see pictures and write up. I will have to be doing this next year. Mike in rust belt of Michigan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
I would think you should take it in to a shop and have it welded. Randy On 08/09/2012 7:24 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Anyone have a recommendation for a product to fill in an exhaust pipe diameter mis-match? Would JB Weld be a good choice? I had to cut out my catalytic converter, and the Y-pipe junction used to do this is a little to large. Muffler clamps and a couple relief cuts will not clamp it down tight enough to eliminate the leaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
I could probably figure out a way but I just had an employee quit so probably won't be able to Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:00:29 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Sounds like a plan If you come, I'll let you have a 240D engine and manual transmission. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] frustrating - tach AC stopping again
After cleaning and lubricating with conductive grease every electrical connection I could find under the hood of my '85 300TD, I thought I must've done something right as the tach was working fine but the AC compressor wouldn't turn on unless I used a jumper wire between the female pins of the Klima relay so I thought the Klima must be OK since the tach was working. Fat chance; the tach stopped working after ~ 10-15 min. of driving this AM but don't know if the AC was working early as it was only 49F when I went to the tennis club and the tach was still not working when I returned home ~ 2 H later. I guess I'm gonna' have to bite the bullet and order a Klima relay . . . I hope this cures the problem(s). G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - nephews/nieces
BTW, Kaleb, what's the latest with your nephews/nieces, children of the murdered SIL on Maine? 'Hope they're doing well. Is BIL still in jail? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - nephews/nieces
They are in California with their grandparents, they are doing great. Bil still in prison. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:33 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, Kaleb, what's the latest with your nephews/nieces, children of the murdered SIL on Maine? 'Hope they're doing well. Is BIL still in jail? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] frustrating - tach AC stopping again
G. M. Brown wrote: After cleaning and lubricating with conductive grease every electrical connection I could find under the hood of my '85 300TD Conductive grease is good - but it's essential that the work is neat and clean. A bit of stray grease in the wrong place is a resistor between lines that aren't supposed to have a resistor. That isn't likely to be a problem for high current stuff, but it easily could mess with sensor and other low current systems. So I use plain grease, typically wheel bearing grease because I can buy it in a tub and it survives well. For everything from battery terminals to audio connections. It may seem counter-intuitive, but I have been doing this for more than two decades. It works. The grease excludes air and water and thus prevents corrosion. The only place I have had trouble is headlights. The heat from the light cooked the grease when I had used lithium white grease. Grease stuffed into a crimp butt splice makes for a rather good weather proof splice too. I have never had a instance of an intermittent connection because of the grease. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio --R On 9/9/12 5:15 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Great! I've been looking for a deal on some 20' marble obelisks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
Hmmm. Thought I saw one of those over at the zoo. Think it was in the ape house Dan (dodging flying bone) On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio --R On 9/9/12 5:15 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Great! I've been looking for a deal on some 20' marble obelisks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:39:05 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio And what does the 1:4:9 ratio do for you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] frustrating - tach AC stopping again
With a wiring diagram, have you verified the KLIMA relay is getting the right signals? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: After cleaning and lubricating with conductive grease every electrical connection I could find under the hood of my '85 300TD, I thought I must've done something right as the tach was working fine but the AC compressor wouldn't turn on unless I used a jumper wire between the female pins of the Klima relay so I thought the Klima must be OK since the tach was working. Fat chance; the tach stopped working after ~ 10-15 min. of driving this AM but don't know if the AC was working early as it was only 49F when I went to the tennis club and the tach was still not working when I returned home ~ 2 H later. I guess I'm gonna' have to bite the bullet and order a Klima relay . . . I hope this cures the problem(s). G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
Surrounded by apes in Africa, or found buried on the moon? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio --R On 9/9/12 5:15 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Great! I've been looking for a deal on some 20' marble obelisks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I would think you should take it in to a shop and have it welded. Randy On 08/09/2012 7:24 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Anyone have a recommendation for a product to fill in an exhaust pipe diameter mis-match? Would JB Weld be a good choice? I had to cut out my catalytic converter, and the Y-pipe junction used to do this is a little to large. Muffler clamps and a couple relief cuts will not clamp it down tight enough to eliminate the leaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
Squares of the first three integers. Reference to Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey and the monolith found on the Moon. Dan On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:39:05 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio And what does the 1:4:9 ratio do for you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
It can make me smarter and let me take a long trip if I drive my Benz into it. --R On 9/10/12 1:41 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:39:05 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio And what does the 1:4:9 ratio do for you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D brakes
My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D hood latch
If you were at the Q you know I had some trouble with my 240D. It consumes a little coolant which I think is a headgasket leak out the block. It had been just bubbling a little but seems to have gotten worse. Anyway I screwed up and let it run low and things got a little dicy on the ride down, the ride back was fine although I took it slow just to be sure. Anyway while I was at the Q I managed to break the hood latch pull. In messing with it yesterday I realized about half the problem is the plastic baby buggy bumper that the latch hits when the hood is closed is missing. That allowed the metal to chew up a little and grab the latch as I tried to open it. Anybody got a 123 parts car could get the latch bumper for me? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
Time to lobby SWMBO for another car... so one can be in for repairs That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
'Zackly what I thought. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing Squares of the first three integers. Reference to Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey and the monolith found on the Moon. Dan On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:39:05 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm looking for a black slab about 20ft tall, dimensions in 1:4:9 ratio And what does the 1:4:9 ratio do for you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
On 10/09/2012 1:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. Don't know how tight the spot is where the weld might be but in my experience people who do exhaust systems can weld in tight spots. I should think they could do it on the car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
Randy wrote: I would think you should take it in to a shop and have it welded. Max Dillon wrote: That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. I suspect that what Randy meant, was drive the car to the shop and have them weld it right there on the car. But I also suspect that the reason you aren't doing that because of the nature of the task - removing essential components. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
On 10/09/2012 2:38 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: I would think you should take it in to a shop and have it welded. Max Dillon wrote: That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. I suspect that what Randy meant, was drive the car to the shop and have them weld it right there on the car. But I also suspect that the reason you aren't doing that because of the nature of the task - removing essential components. -- Philip ___ Not sure what it is like down where you are but around here, I have not had any real issue with that sort of thing. I don't know as though I would go to a dealer but there must be independent type places that would not batt an eye. Especially if you explained that you have been unable to find the proper replacement unit and this is a means of continueing to drive it while you look for the right one. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
Already have The White Whale waiting for repairs. What I need is a job with less travel! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD aka White Whale, failed head transplant. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Time to lobby SWMBO for another car... so one can be in for repairs That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
I suspect that now that the unlawful part is done (cat-ectomy), and the shop was not involved in that step, then maybe the EPA won't fine them if all they do is a little welding. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD I suspect that what Randy meant, was drive the car to the shop and have them weld it right there on the car. But I also suspect that the reason you aren't doing that because of the nature of the task - removing essential components. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 10/09/2012 1:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: That would require removing the exhaust system, car out of service for a day our two. Can't afford the down time right now. Don't know how tight the spot is where the weld might be but in my experience people who do exhaust systems can weld in tight spots. I should think they could do it on the car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Very nice. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
If you were closer I'd say just bring the stupid thing here. Sounds like a 20 minute job... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:09:05 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-649da88fa...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Others may use it - after all, how'm I ever gonna get one, otherwise. BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does it take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name their company that? http://www.alphasierragroup.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
I need to convince Rich to get a welder... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If you were closer I'd say just bring the stupid thing here. Sounds like a 20 minute job... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:09:05 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-649da88fa...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
You can probably borrow an exhaust pipe expander from your FLAPS. Expand till it fits snug and put a clamp on it. Should be expanded before welding or it will just break at the weld. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If you were closer I'd say just bring the stupid thing here. Sounds like a 20 minute job... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:09:05 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-649da88fa...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Well, if this is going where I think then one Alpha Sierra will wipe out years worth of attaboys and no amount of attaboys will ever wipe out a whole Alpha Sierra. Did I get that right? Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Others may use it - after all, how'm I ever gonna get one, otherwise. BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does it take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
THAT is funny, a businesses that will get no offers from anyone with military experience. Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name their company that? http://www.alphasierragroup.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
I have some JBWeld! --R On 9/10/12 4:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: I need to convince Rich to get a welder... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:50 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Squares of the first three integers. Reference to Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey and the monolith found on the Moon. Aha! Now I understand. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has worked well. I think those bolts are heat-treated alloy, I wonder if the blue wrench might weaken them. MB recommends new bolts when replacing these, and it might be a good idea if heat is applied. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:16 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
Dan is a real buzz killer, I figured we could keep this thing going for awhile. Actually the first monolith was in Africa someplace. The 2nd on the moon, and the 3rd orbiting Jupiter. --R On 9/10/12 5:13 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:50 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Squares of the first three integers. Reference to Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey and the monolith found on the Moon. Aha! Now I understand. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
How much can you stretch pipe with one of the handheld units? They can be bought cheaply. I have one but I have never used it. I know the muffler shops use the fancy expensive machines to stretch pipe but that is hydraulic etc. Randy who thinks even if stretched to fit, welding is still a good idea On 10/09/2012 3:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: You can probably borrow an exhaust pipe expander from your FLAPS. Expand till it fits snug and put a clamp on it. Should be expanded before welding or it will just break at the weld. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If you were closer I'd say just bring the stupid thing here. Sounds like a 20 minute job... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:09:05 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-649da88fa...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now it's official: The Black Hole is closing
Sorry. I'll hold back in the future. Dan Wendy, I'm home! On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Dan is a real buzz killer, I figured we could keep this thing going for awhile. Actually the first monolith was in Africa someplace. The 2nd on the moon, and the 3rd orbiting Jupiter. --R On 9/10/12 5:13 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:50 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Squares of the first three integers. Reference to Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey and the monolith found on the Moon. Aha! Now I understand. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
On 10/09/2012 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has worked well. I think those bolts are heat-treated alloy, I wonder if the blue wrench might weaken them. MB recommends new bolts when replacing these, and it might be a good idea if heat is applied. Greg Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was 190D brakes Now Marriage
Oh, I forgot to mention, she snores too but won't admit it. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
As long as the pipe is not badly rusted you can expand a 1/4 inch or so with a handheld one. Welding is certainly best. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 5:22 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How much can you stretch pipe with one of the handheld units? They can be bought cheaply. I have one but I have never used it. I know the muffler shops use the fancy expensive machines to stretch pipe but that is hydraulic etc. Randy who thinks even if stretched to fit, welding is still a good idea On 10/09/2012 3:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: You can probably borrow an exhaust pipe expander from your FLAPS. Expand till it fits snug and put a clamp on it. Should be expanded before welding or it will just break at the weld. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If you were closer I'd say just bring the stupid thing here. Sounds like a 20 minute job... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:09:05 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-**649da88fa...@email.android.com5c7dead1-8450-4672-bbc4-649da88fa...@email.android.com ** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You've just about talked me into taking to a shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Alpha Sierra - Ah S*** Evidently, they've never been around Air Force aircrewmen. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name their company that? http://www.alphasierragroup.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Yep, that's about it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Well, if this is going where I think then one Alpha Sierra will wipe out years worth of attaboys and no amount of attaboys will ever wipe out a whole Alpha Sierra. Did I get that right? Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:38 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Others may use it - after all, how'm I ever gonna get one, otherwise. BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does it take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already ordered new rotors and pads. Yesterday I installed. Remember a couple weeks ago I asked about replacing the rotor without pulling the hub? A year or two ago I'd done the bearings on the passenger front and the rotor kept falling off as I tried to set the preload. Well yesterday that ^%$@#! rotor wouldn't come off for love nor money. I had to pull the hub and balance it on two 2x4s and beat the hub out of the rotor. On that side the pads fell out of the caliper when I pulled it, neither had any friction material to speak of. On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench which is hard because the small bolts have a little rubber bellows thing on them, I didn't realize at the time I could take rubber bellows thing off. On that side the pads were fine... I *think* when I did the bearing I got grease on the rotor which created the hardspot and ruined the pads. So it goes. Rusty sent me ceramic pads, I don't remember what brand he said they were but they were in a Textar box. Apparently Akebono doesn't have an application for a 190D. The rotors he sent (I spec'd the cheap PBR ones which I had used on my '83 240D with success) are very nice and thick. They weigh about twice the ones I took off and are marked Made in Germany on the rim. My wife is VERY pleased with the new brakes and much more confident in the car and my abilities. The latter is of course a nice feeling. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was 190D brakes Now Marriage
Uh oh! Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was 190D brakes Now Marriage Oh, I forgot to mention, she snores too but won't admit it. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Whatever happened to the seven year itch? It was widely accepted that wives/husbands tended to stray after seven years of marriage. I remember it being discussed in the 1930s when I was a child. Since then movies and plays have been written about it. (Marilyn Monroe was in one by that title) and psychologists have addressed the subject. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090429172241.htm Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
I think I spent $250 on my Lincoln HandyMig and it was worth every penny. In retrospect I wouldn't bother with gas (I've not bought it but the welder came equipped) as for the stuff I do flux wire is just fine. In your case as Mike says you'd need an expander or cut a piece and wrap it around the outside to make up the space. I can fill a lot with weld but its brittle... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:53:27 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 49348790-d2ff-439d-ad29-4fc85c153...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I need to convince Rich to get a welder... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I've done that on a 123 also but in this case either the wrench was pointed in the wrong direction (needing the jack to pull it down) or was at such an angle because of the strut being in the way that I couldn't make it work. BTW I didn't heat the bolt, I heated the casting the bolt goes into. If you heat the bolt it expands and gets tighter in the hole. When you heat the casting the space gets bigger and the bolt comes out. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:26:20 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 023701cd8f9a$ed142b70$c73c8250$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has worked well. I think those bolts are heat-treated alloy, I wonder if the blue wrench might weaken them. MB recommends new bolts when replacing these, and it might be a good idea if heat is applied. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
'Musta whipped right through it without even noticing. I've never strayed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Whatever happened to the seven year itch? It was widely accepted that wives/husbands tended to stray after seven years of marriage. I remember it being discussed in the 1930s when I was a child. Since then movies and plays have been written about it. (Marilyn Monroe was in one by that title) and psychologists have addressed the subject. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090429172241.htm Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
You bet but for this job it would have to be a compact unit and to get those with good power (gotta be 400+ lbs/ft) starts to turn into real money. I also don't really have a big enough compressor. I'd like to get a big 220v unit and mount it in the basement with air piped to the garage so the compressor would always be warm enough to use. SWMBO isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/09/2012 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has worked well. I think those bolts are heat-treated alloy, I wonder if the blue wrench might weaken them. MB recommends new bolts when replacing these, and it might be a good idea if heat is applied. Greg Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Back in the day at 7 years you'd be expected to have a 6 year old right? I can see how that might make somebody want to look around. We've always been too busy having fun. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:36:40 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 29C9147D5590419BB1A8469FAB4EDD06@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Whatever happened to the seven year itch? It was widely accepted that wives/husbands tended to stray after seven years of marriage. I remember it being discussed in the 1930s when I was a child. Since then movies and plays have been written about it. (Marilyn Monroe was in one by that title) and psychologists have addressed the subject. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090429172241.htm Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Does not require a huge, fancy compressor to run a high power impact unless you are using it a lot. A small one just requires you wait for it between bursts of power. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You bet but for this job it would have to be a compact unit and to get those with good power (gotta be 400+ lbs/ft) starts to turn into real money. I also don't really have a big enough compressor. I'd like to get a big 220v unit and mount it in the basement with air piped to the garage so the compressor would always be warm enough to use. SWMBO isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/09/2012 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has worked well. I think those bolts are heat-treated alloy, I wonder if the blue wrench might weaken them. MB recommends new bolts when replacing these, and it might be a good idea if heat is applied. Greg Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preppin for the Q
Post the Q pics, pal. Need to see what the other side of the country looks like. Bob R On Sep 8, 2012 1:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure, send 'em up:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:07 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dimitri, how'd you like the pleasure of detailing a coupla absolutely rust-free examples, a 26-year-old 124 and a 22-year-old 126? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preppin for the Q You're in luck. I always take step by step photos of all my rust repairs:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: I would love to see pictures and write up. I will have to be doing this next year. Mike in rust belt of Michigan Michael E. Esh www.michaelesh.bodybyvi.com On Sep 7, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That was funny. Why do cars have to rust! I spent the past two days (part of) detailing my 240D. It was way overdue. Suddenly my car started turning heads and getting compliments again despite the rust! Hopefully I'll tackle some rust spots this fall- the front jack points need repair-especially the drivers side. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Welded up a fist sized hole in my '78 240D today, that was a job that was really overdue and I wish I'd tackled it sooner. I did notice (rats) that the boots on the tie rod end and upper ball joint on the passenger side look really sad. Fortunately I have all new tie rods. They don't feel bad yet but I'll replace before the snow hits (sure Mac, sure). Anyway time to load up the car, tomorrow is the ChowdaQ! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Got you beat but way behind Wilton 44 1/4 years here. Russ W. On 9/10/2012 16:25, Randy Bennell wrote: With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
After 40 years of patching mufflers, wrapping with two layers of metal (preferably galvanized) which has been bedded with muffler patching goo from FLAPS, and secured with four clamps evenly spaced; is the longest lasting patch I've found. If there isn't enough room on the pipe, then it goes to an independent muffler shop. The chains usually waste ones time and/or money by trying to sell new parts. A good muffler guy can do wonders with welding and often do it cheaply. Gerry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I have some JBWeld! --R On 9/10/12 4:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: I need to convince Rich to get a welder... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
WILTON wrote: BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; infinite. conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does itL take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? one. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Max Dillon wrote: Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, Aw smeg! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes WILTON wrote: BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; infinite. conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does itL take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? one. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bring a trailer, Kaleb
engine rebuilds, but the rest of the car is good parts clay On Sep 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Sounds like a bunch of cars that have been ruined by fryer oil. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3259674549.html not mine, no affiliation, no interest Too bad Casey is not on the list anymore. Good frog car for him -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Yeah I've got a little air ratchet I've been through that with. Not fun... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:48:15 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: calhj_1dpw5zaykh4osuaswqemh9ax5wq1kbqsdoeuywbrc8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does not require a huge, fancy compressor to run a high power impact unless you are using it a lot. A small one just requires you wait for it between bursts of power. Mike On Sep 10, 2012 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You bet but for this job it would have to be a compact unit and to get those with good power (gotta be 400+ lbs/ft) starts to turn into real money. I also don't really have a big enough compressor. I'd like to get a big 220v unit and mount it in the basement with air piped to the garage so the compressor would always be warm enough to use. SWMBO isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
Don't do it, its like going back to dialup, 3G is slw. Wikipedia says 3G peaks at 200Kb/s. I have 1.5Mb/s DSL so its ~7x faster... I hate using the internet on my phone, anything with any amount of pictures takes forever. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:19:38 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections Message-ID: F77DD1AD2CD4483A90EF1FC450ADE7BF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
The father of a highschool friend could do wonders with a soupcan and some clamps. At one point he had a Chevy Nova which had an exhaust that consisted mostly of soup cans. Probably had more money tied up in clamps than it would have cost to buy a new exhaust. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:20:20 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? Message-ID: 2E5E7DE951A843F697821BC1CD5A7B5D@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original After 40 years of patching mufflers, wrapping with two layers of metal (preferably galvanized) which has been bedded with muffler patching goo from FLAPS, and secured with four clamps evenly spaced; is the longest lasting patch I've found. If there isn't enough room on the pipe, then it goes to an independent muffler shop. The chains usually waste ones time and/or money by trying to sell new parts. A good muffler guy can do wonders with welding and often do it cheaply. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it with four pillows, I turned on a tape recorder with the idea of playing it for him later. When played the next morning, the transistors had continuously peaked producing nothing but a steady roar. How his wife stood it I'll never know. Gerry On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
There are operations for snoring but sometimes they simply change the audio frequency. Wife said my snoring reminded her of a diesel Mercedes idling, but she was probably kidding. How can anyone snore klatta-klatta-klatta? Gerrywho was married for 50 years. On 9/10/2012 16:25, Randy Bennell wrote: With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
The data charges are higher as well - use the hotspot when traveling, but not at home, except as a back-up, should your life feel threatened when the DSL is down :-) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't do it, its like going back to dialup, 3G is slw. Wikipedia says 3G peaks at 200Kb/s. I have 1.5Mb/s DSL so its ~7x faster... I hate using the internet on my phone, anything with any amount of pictures takes forever. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:19:38 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections Message-ID: F77DD1AD2CD4483A90EF1FC450ADE7BF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Yup, we're still beginners at 37 years - I still learn something about her every week, if not every day :-) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: **7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E5**72@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton __**_ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
On Sep 10, 2012 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtludwig curtlud...@yahoo.com@curtlud...@yahoo.com yahoo.com curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't do it, its like going back to dialup, 3G is slw. Depends on the carrier, but yes 3g is slow. It might be okay for email if that's your big requirement. My 4g wimax phone has higher bandwidth than my DSL connection can get, and LTE should be faster still. Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? It is (was?*) an extra fee if you want to be legit, or a lot of work on an iPhone if you want to be illegit. In any case I think Verizon cuts you off if you use too much data (2 GB?) in a month, and it is against the terms of service if you use mobile data as a home internet connection so they could cut you off for that too. *The possibility here is because Verizon recently (last few weeks) got told by the FCC that they couldn't block tethering apps from the Android store. I don't know if that will/has reflected back into their plans - free tethering for everyone - or will just affect Android users with no change in TOS. (According to life hacker, it does not affect iPhone users because Apple is doing the tethering app blocking, for what that's worth.) Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Probably a poor choice as a primary connection even if you could ignore the speed and potential coverage issues, for the reasons above. My cable monopoly recently lowered its prices into the competitive range, you might look there if you want to drop copper. Best, Tim Gerry ___ http:// http://www.okiebenz.comwww.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:// http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/archive//archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http:// http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com mail.okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com /mailman/ http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com listinfo http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com/http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
OK Don wrote: Yup, we're still beginners at 37 years - I still learn something about her every week, if not every day :-) And... that is why you will make it to 60 years, I posit. Like you, I find this woman interesting from day to day, for 38 years. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a mixture of water and molasses for rust. Never heard of that before but it apparently works: http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/ http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx http://www.driveonwood.com/ Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods?
Can you spell Luke? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muffler Patch Methods? The father of a highschool friend could do wonders with a soupcan and some clamps. At one point he had a Chevy Nova which had an exhaust that consisted mostly of soup cans. Probably had more money tied up in clamps than it would have cost to buy a new exhaust. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Separate bedrooms would be far cheaper than divorce. When the snoring gets too bad at our household, I move to the guest room. Coming up on 14 years of marriage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Once on a church trip, four guys to a room, last guy to arrive hands out ear plugs all around; we needed 'em. I slept ok using the plugs, wouldn't have slept a wink otherwise. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it with four pillows, I turned on a tape recorder with the idea of playing it for him later. When played the next morning, the transistors had continuously peaked producing nothing but a steady roar. How his wife stood it I'll never know. Gerry On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
On Sep 10, 2012 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtludwig Don't do it, its like going back to dialup, 3G is slw. ... Depends on the carrier, but yes 3g is slow. It might be okay for email if that's your big requirement. My 4g wimax phone has higher bandwidth than my DSL connection can get, and LTE should be faster still. Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? It is (was?*) an extra fee if you want to be legit, or a lot of work on an iPhone if you want to be illegit. In any case I think Verizon cuts you off if you use too much data (2 GB?) in a month, and it is against the terms of service if you use mobile data as a home internet connection so they could cut you off for that too. *The possibility here is because Verizon recently (last few weeks) got told by the FCC that they couldn't block tethering apps from the Android store. I don't know if that will/has reflected back into their plans - free tethering for everyone - or will just affect Android users with no change in TOS. (According to life hacker, it does not affect iPhone users because Apple is doing the tethering app blocking, for what that's worth.) Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Probably a poor choice as a primary connection even if you could ignore the speed and potential coverage issues, for the reasons above. My cable monopoly recently lowered its prices into the competitive range, you might look there if you want to drop copper. Best, Tim ... The data charges are higher as well - use the hotspot when traveling, but not at home, except as a back-up, should your life feel threatened when the DSL is down :-) OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Alles. My wife snores, I mean SNORES. I find it comforting, somehow. Joanne says that I buzz, unless ill, then I buzz a bit louder. The only time that her snoring wakes me, is, if it is accompanied by the I'm lying on my back and almost choking, very loud and then very quiet, wakes me right up. 27.5 years (this time) and still going strong because she is still as cute as ever. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Separate bedrooms would be far cheaper than divorce. When the snoring gets too bad at our household, I move to the guest room. Coming up on 14 years of marriage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she is becoming upset with my snoring. Randy On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th of Aug. How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know Mike On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Max Dillon wrote: Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, Aw smeg! -- Philip Not much left on PBS here. they took off Red Dwarf, they took off Dr. Who, now they took off Red Green. That is heresy... Only Sat night britcoms, and most of those I have seen before. IPBN kept gas in the possum van for a lot of years. Now they dump him. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
While in Greenland in '78 Col. Base Commander and I flew with Danish Air Force crew on their C-130H into the far-south Greenland air field/village of Narsassuaq. Checking into the hotel there, I was shocked by price of the lodging and obviously showed it. Colonel eased up beside me and whispered in my ear, Wilt, I'll 'let' you share a room with me if you'll promise me you don't snore. I replied, Indeed, I don't. That night, with each of us snug in our twin beds, the room began to shake and shudder as he got into some absolutely first class, gold medal, champion snoring. I was up and down all night kicking his bed post to try to make him stop for a few minutes so I could doze off for a bit - very little sleep that night for me. Next morning, I said to 'im, Damn/doggone your time, please don't ever 'let' me share a room with you again. He grinned and said, What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it with four pillows, I turned on a tape recorder with the idea of playing it for him later. When played the next morning, the transistors had continuously peaked producing nothing but a steady roar. How his wife stood it I'll never know. Gerry On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
Oops! Sent wrong one; here's right one: Gerry -- Thanks to all. That explains it. Gerry .. On Sep 10, 2012 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtludwig Don't do it, its like going back to dialup, 3G is slw. ... Depends on the carrier, but yes 3g is slow. It might be okay for email if that's your big requirement. My 4g wimax phone has higher bandwidth than my DSL connection can get, and LTE should be faster still. Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot connections? Any problems? It is (was?*) an extra fee if you want to be legit, or a lot of work on an iPhone if you want to be illegit. In any case I think Verizon cuts you off if you use too much data (2 GB?) in a month, and it is against the terms of service if you use mobile data as a home internet connection so they could cut you off for that too. *The possibility here is because Verizon recently (last few weeks) got told by the FCC that they couldn't block tethering apps from the Android store. I don't know if that will/has reflected back into their plans - free tethering for everyone - or will just affect Android users with no change in TOS. (According to life hacker, it does not affect iPhone users because Apple is doing the tethering app blocking, for what that's worth.) Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has mobile connection to Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. Probably a poor choice as a primary connection even if you could ignore the speed and potential coverage issues, for the reasons above. My cable monopoly recently lowered its prices into the competitive range, you might look there if you want to drop copper. Best, Tim ... The data charges are higher as well - use the hotspot when traveling, but not at home, except as a back-up, should your life feel threatened when the DSL is down :-) OK Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
Yes, I've heard of it. Vinegar and Coca Cola work as well. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a mixture of water and molasses for rust. Never heard of that before but it apparently works: http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/ http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx http://www.driveonwood.com/ Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
Sure, a chelation agent. Apparently RustBeeter is something similar. I use citric acid to remove rust on lantern parts. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:38:05 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust Message-ID: BECF18D7609445F18F4E303D0C2AAD78@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a mixture of water and molasses for rust. Never heard of that before but it apparently works: http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/ http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx http://www.driveonwood.com/ Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
molasses ... vinegar, coca cola To remove rust, or prevent it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
Supposedly to remove the oxygen from the iron oxide. The only acid I found listed was pyrrolidone carboxylic acid. Not sure what the chelating agent would be in molasses: ..The total sugar content in molasses is approximately 50 %. Minor carbohydrates are glucose, fructose, raffinose and some other oligo- or polysaccharides. Their concentration is below 1 % and depends to a significant extent on the manufacturing process. Some of the minerals found in molasses are potassium followed by sodium, calcium and magnesium. Their content depends mainly on soil type and water availability. Additionally, the calcium and sodium content is influenced by processing practices. About 20 % of the total mass consists of non-sucrose organic matter, in particular of non-protein nitrogen (NPN) containing substances, such as betaine. In addition molasses contains free and bound amino acids and pryrrolidone carboxylic acid (a conversion product of glutamine). In the manufacturing process most of the amino acids undergo changes so that less than the amounts expected from beet roots are found in molassessnip Gerry From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu molasses ... vinegar, coca cola To remove rust, or prevent it? Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5260 - Release Date: 09/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes NOT Snoring
One summer I worked in Virginia, found a room in a house with one guy who owned it, and one other room was vacant at the time. The owner, a fairly young guy, was a realtor. He was out evenings until whenever, then his brother and various other people would come over to the house to have a few pops and other things before going out to a private club where they would party until 2 or 3 or whenever. I had to get up at like 6AM so usually by 10-10:30 I was trying to get some sleep, usually slept with my aircraft lineman noise foes on to get any sleep.. I have seared, seared into my mind, Dr. John singing I was in the right place but it must have been the wrong time... as that was usually the last album they would put on the stereo, then forget to turn it off when they left, so that it just kept playing over and over and over I still like the song lo these many years later, but I sometimes wonder if snoring or that song is worse to listen to all night long. --R On 9/10/12 8:23 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Once on a church trip, four guys to a room, last guy to arrive hands out ear plugs all around; we needed 'em. I slept ok using the plugs, wouldn't have slept a wink otherwise. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Generator question...
I scored an Ingersoll-Rand G25 (with autostart capability). It looks to use a Mitsubishi S4Q series engine that uses what looks to be a Bosch type A inline pump (instead of the distributor type) I've managed to get parts catalogs for the unit, but no real service information; from the drawings I can see that it uses gears in the timing case (no chain to stretch!), that it is a pushrod valve-train, and that it appears to use solid lifters. I'd presume that a dial gauge would be used to locate the lowest spot on the intake cam #1, and that a half-turn of the crankshaft is needed between cylinders (1-3-4-2), then go back and do the same with the exhaust. The adjusters are on the push-rod end of the rocker arms, so I'd bet that lash is measured under the valve end of the arm... Does anyone out there have a service manual for the S4Q series that they'd share? I'd like to confirm the adjustment procedures and to see actual numbers for the clearances (the one thing I don't have!) Obligatory Mercedes content–it looks like it will be a lot simpler to adjust the valves on this engine. Thanks much -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
They remove rust. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: molasses ... vinegar, coca cola To remove rust, or prevent it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
