Re: [MBZ] How I beat the saw

2013-08-15 Thread Hans Neureiter
Husqvarna bought Poulan


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Well as you know I took pack the pos poulan 18 and got another pos poulan
 20 50cc. Looking at it at the store I could tell it was much better kwality
 than the other poulan, in fact looked like a husky except for the color and
 label. Anyway, filled it up with oil and gas and holy mother that thing
 fired right up and just tore up that tree. Took me about 15 min to cut it
 up. Never died, idled right. Half a pull warm and it fires right up. Night
 and day difference. I am convinced its really a husky but whatever the case
 may be, it's a world apart from the last one.

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Gary Hurst wrote:

yeah, as far as i can tell, coaster brakes are just drum brakes


Except when they call them drum brakes, they're a lot more than 2 in diameter.

Gary Hurst wrote:
 25 is only like an inch wide then.  or i'm missing something.  like, ok,
 the old 10 speed size from teh 70s was 27x1 1/4.  how does that translate
 to your 700x sizes?

700x32 is the new 27 x 1 1/4.
(well, it was new in 1980)

I've still got 27s on my 1974 Maino.

When I bought it in 1982, I took off the huge Weinmann centerpulls and put 57mm 
Shimano 600 brakes on it. Had to extend the rear brake slots a little to get the 
shoes to line up with the rim as it is, no way I could make normal brakes work 
with 700 rims on that bike.


The last of my old 27 x 1 1/8 tires finally cracked and I had to buy new tires 
for the first time since the 1990s this year.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Benz Hogs wrote:
700 is a touch bigger in diameter than the old 27.  


I think Luther got that backwards.
Bead seat diameter on 700 is 622mm, 27 uses a 630 rim, to the brake reach is 
4mm less on a 27.


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Re: [MBZ] Kubota G1800S W/ 60 Deck $2900

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dang that is nice 

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On Aug 14, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kaleb wrote:
 
 Check this out
 
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/grq/4001431305.html
 
 If that's within the budget, I'd get this
 
 http://springfield.craigslist.org/grd/3962884275.html
 
 John Deere 332 for $3150.
 
 --   Philip, who likes the John Deere hydrostatic transmission.
 
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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs

Oops, right.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/15/2013 5:06 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Benz Hogs wrote:

700 is a touch bigger in diameter than the old 27.


I think Luther got that backwards.
Bead seat diameter on 700 is 622mm, 27 uses a 630 rim, to the brake
reach is 4mm less on a 27.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs
Maybe.  IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making 
700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire.  Also, the tire rubber 
is thinner and stronger than older tech.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/15/2013 5:04 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

700x32 is the new 27 x 1 1/4.
(well, it was new in 1980)


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Re: [MBZ] Radios. was: Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I can send you a used Becker for cheap.  The tape cassette is probably
pooched but the radio should work.



On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 The radio wiring in an 83 300D is pretty simple: switched power,
 constant power, antenna, L and R speakers.  Since the front/rear balance
 is controlled with the dial in the center console you don't need a radio
 with built-in front-rear fade, and the wiring harness is not set up for
 that.  Good luck finding one though.  You could either bring wires
 forward from the console fader dial or just wire up the front or rear
 channel of the radio.

 I'd try to find a working Becker before I went with anything new.  The
 Becker Grand Prix in my 300D absolutely puts the modern radios in our
 newer Ford and Honda to shame in its ability to tune in distant FM
 stations clearly (though I never have figured out how to set the clock,
 and it has an odd alarm clock feature, I guess for when I'm sleeping
 in the car)

 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes:

  The Becker in my '83 300D quit but I don't want to fix it or get another
  Becker since the car is a beater with 300K miles.
  Can anyone suggest an Asian radio that will pull in distant stations?
  Years
  ago Pioneer was the best long range radio.
  I'll also replace the antenna; probably with a non-retractable.  Not
 looking
  forward to sorting out all the wiring.
  Thanks,
  Gerry
 

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Re: [MBZ] Kubota G1800S W/ 60 Deck $2900

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Dang that is nice 


Appears to be fully restored.
If the guy is like some of the Cub Cadet nuts out there, it might be better than 
new.
If he's like some of the guys selling 'restored' Mercedes on the net, well, he 
can't be as bad as them, can he?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-15 Thread Michael Canfield
So you would be good with an electric car as long as it has an 8 track
player to make Camaro noises when you go?  Gotcha.

Mike
On Aug 14, 2013 7:45 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't like the sound of modern engines.  Too many sound milk-toast
 Asian copy cat.  You know, the small displacement, quiet, high revving
 sound as people push the pedal to the floor.  I prefer an old classic
 push-rod engine sound, perhaps with carburetor indicating definite
 ooomph, not necessarily loud.  The modern engine sound has annoyed me
 for 30 years.  I prefer to drive 3-pedal diesel, and I used to drive
 6.2 diesel Beauville van.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] diesel mowers

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I went and looked at the g5200 one for $1450. It's a 1990 has 1600 hours. 
Seems to be in good shape, started right up cold with a little black smoke 
which seems normal to me. Only thing I see wrong with it is the button on the 
handle to raise and lower the deck is stuck down so you can't lock the deck up. 
Would need to fix that but not a big deal. Guy bought it from original owner. 
Guy will take $1200, tried to get him at 1k. Think I should jump on it?

Sent from  my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 haha bagger
 On 8/14/2013 8:11 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 So between the 2 models which one you think is best? That other one in ar 
 came with nagger etc
 
 I thought Kaleb came with a nagger.
 Her name is Reggie.
 
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Benz Hogs wrote:
Maybe.  IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making 
700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire.  Also, the tire rubber 
is thinner and stronger than older tech.


Really?
The tires I bought in the 1980s and 1990s were 66 tpi (Specialized Touring II) 
and up. Seems like the affordable tires today have heavier casing thread.
The Vittoria Zaffiros I got from Nashbar a couple of months ago have thicker 
rubber in the center than any road tire I used to buy, and I got the idea the 
casing was coarser than 66tpi.
Are you saying that something like a Continental GP is thinner than a GP from 20 
years ago?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] diesel mowers

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well I went and looked at the g5200 one for $1450. It's a 1990 has 1600 hours. 
Seems to be in good shape, started right up cold with a little black smoke 
which seems normal to me. Only thing I see wrong with it is the button on the 
handle to raise and lower the deck is stuck down so you can't lock the deck up. 
Would need to fix that but not a big deal. Guy bought it from original owner. 
Guy will take $1200, tried to get him at 1k. Think I should jump on it?



Well, it looks to be in better shape than the $900 G4200 near me.
I might offer $700 on that one.
How big's the deck, 42?
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/3993341476.html
http://lansing.craigslist.org/grd/3878199118.html

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Randy Bennell

On 14/08/2013 7:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

The driveway is long, but its also gravel well, compacted gravel into
dirt.  Its been a while since anyone has dumped new gravel on it.  I'm
hoping to get the support of the other three neighbors over the next year
or two to pave it, but thats another story all together.  Right in front of
my house is fresh loose gravel, which will get pushed around much easier.

Anyone have any experience with plow vs blower on gravel/dirt?

Jaime




My walk behind blower tends to pick up and throw stones the first time I 
use it after the first snowfall.
Then the base gets packed down and hardened up and the blower stops 
picking up the stones.
The feet - skids -  on the blower can be adjusted so it does not scrape 
quite as close to the ground so it does not pick up as much.
On pavement, folks often have it set to scrape very close to the 
pavement because they want the driveway to look like it does in summer.

That does not work so well with gravel.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] diesel mowers

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
48

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Well I went and looked at the g5200 one for $1450. It's a 1990 has 1600 
 hours. Seems to be in good shape, started right up cold with a little black 
 smoke which seems normal to me. Only thing I see wrong with it is the button 
 on the handle to raise and lower the deck is stuck down so you can't lock 
 the deck up. Would need to fix that but not a big deal. Guy bought it from 
 original owner. Guy will take $1200, tried to get him at 1k. Think I should 
 jump on it?
 
 
 Well, it looks to be in better shape than the $900 G4200 near me.
 I might offer $700 on that one.
 How big's the deck, 42?
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/grd/3993341476.html
 http://lansing.craigslist.org/grd/3878199118.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Radios. was: Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Funny that you say this, as I recall that Beckers were notoriously poor with FM 
reception, at least with the GPs.

Maybe it was another model I'm thinking of?

Sent from my iPad


 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 The radio wiring in an 83 300D is pretty simple: switched power,
 constant power, antenna, L and R speakers.  Since the front/rear balance
 is controlled with the dial in the center console you don't need a radio
 with built-in front-rear fade, and the wiring harness is not set up for
 that.  Good luck finding one though.  You could either bring wires
 forward from the console fader dial or just wire up the front or rear
 channel of the radio.
 
 I'd try to find a working Becker before I went with anything new.  The
 Becker Grand Prix in my 300D absolutely puts the modern radios in our
 newer Ford and Honda to shame in its ability to tune in distant FM
 stations clearly (though I never have figured out how to set the clock,
 and it has an odd alarm clock feature, I guess for when I'm sleeping
 in the car)
 
 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes:
 
 The Becker in my '83 300D quit but I don't want to fix it or get another
 Becker since the car is a beater with 300K miles.
 Can anyone suggest an Asian radio that will pull in distant stations?
 Years
 ago Pioneer was the best long range radio.
 I'll also replace the antenna; probably with a non-retractable.  Not
 looking
 forward to sorting out all the wiring.
 Thanks,
 Gerry
 
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Re: [MBZ] diesel mowers

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

48


Good.
The 42 is one of the reasons why I haven't tried to contact the seller of the 
G4200 near me.
I'd make sure the PTO clutch works good. I don't know about Kubota, but it's a 
weak point on a lot of garden tractors.


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Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-15 Thread Craig
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:44:50 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is no shortage of facts, it's just that no two sets agree 
 perception is reality.

Actually, perception is not reality. Reality, given time, will show its
head and, given the ACA's background, will bite us most severely. As my
Dad used to say, The truth will out.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Radios. was: Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Allan Streib
If the Beckers are poor, then Honda and Ford (which actually has a
Blaupunkt installed) are even worse.

Allan

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes:

 Funny that you say this, as I recall that Beckers were notoriously poor with 
 FM reception, at least with the GPs.

 Maybe it was another model I'm thinking of?

 Sent from my iPad


 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 The radio wiring in an 83 300D is pretty simple: switched power,
 constant power, antenna, L and R speakers.  Since the front/rear balance
 is controlled with the dial in the center console you don't need a radio
 with built-in front-rear fade, and the wiring harness is not set up for
 that.  Good luck finding one though.  You could either bring wires
 forward from the console fader dial or just wire up the front or rear
 channel of the radio.
 
 I'd try to find a working Becker before I went with anything new.  The
 Becker Grand Prix in my 300D absolutely puts the modern radios in our
 newer Ford and Honda to shame in its ability to tune in distant FM
 stations clearly (though I never have figured out how to set the clock,
 and it has an odd alarm clock feature, I guess for when I'm sleeping
 in the car)
 
 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes:
 
 The Becker in my '83 300D quit but I don't want to fix it or get another
 Becker since the car is a beater with 300K miles.
 Can anyone suggest an Asian radio that will pull in distant stations?
 Years
 ago Pioneer was the best long range radio.
 I'll also replace the antenna; probably with a non-retractable.  Not
 looking
 forward to sorting out all the wiring.
 Thanks,
 Gerry
 
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Re: [MBZ] diesel mowers

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It seems to, deck blades kick in that's all I know

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On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 48
 
 Good.
 The 42 is one of the reasons why I haven't tried to contact the seller of 
 the G4200 near me.
 I'd make sure the PTO clutch works good. I don't know about Kubota, but it's 
 a weak point on a lot of garden tractors.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree. In costal NJ you could probably even get away with a 2wd truck and a 
thousand pounds of weight in the back with chains on the tires except for the 
worst of storms like the blizzard you had a couple years ago.

You should be able to get a yard truck that isn't suitable for the road cheap 
enough. A friend of mine has one that was t-boned, the truck is banana shaped 
but does the job just fine.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:44:12 -0400
From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Message-ID: 3f06b219-fbf3-49d2-90dc-618dc9ab3...@gwi.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

If you want to plow, get a 4WD truck.  Otherwise, use a blower.

Jon


On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

 The driveway is long, but its also gravel well, compacted gravel into
 dirt.  Its been a while since anyone has dumped new gravel on it.  I'm
 hoping to get the support of the other three neighbors over the next year
 or two to pave it, but thats another story all together.  Right in front of
 my house is fresh loose gravel, which will get pushed around much easier.
 
 Anyone have any experience with plow vs blower on gravel/dirt?
 
 Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Coastal Southern Maine... He doesn't get any more snow than I do in MA, some 
years he probably gets a lot less...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:06:35 -0400
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
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Trust Jon. He lives in Maine:)

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On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:

 If you want to plow, get a 4WD truck.  Otherwise, use a blower.
 
 Jon
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[MBZ] holy grail of bike tire size info

2013-08-15 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

here's the holy grail site for bike wheel and tire sizes

it explains it all, including Schwinn sizes and French sizes

http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread dseretakis
Actually midcoast Maine.

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On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Coastal Southern Maine... He doesn't get any more snow than I do in MA, some 
 years he probably gets a lot less...
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:06:35 -0400
 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
 Message-ID: bfece4d0-cc40-4c4c-8583-ad3299778...@yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
 Trust Jon. He lives in Maine:)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:
 
 If you want to plow, get a 4WD truck.  Otherwise, use a blower.
  
 Jon
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[MBZ] need help re-installing W123 wagon drip rail end piece

2013-08-15 Thread Dave Cavner
Hi all,

Long story short -  my '84 Euro wagon finally got a respray. Yeah!  All trim 
removed and replaced successfully EXCEPT the curved rear section of the roof 
drip rail on the  D-pillar. I can get close but one end or the other pops off 
the car when I try to tap it home. The long straight drip rail run from the 
windshield back is no problem.

I'm planning to visit the bone yards to find some W123s to practice RRing this 
piece (sedans and wagons since the end section is similar) but am looking for 
hints or tips from anyone who has been here and done this.  

Is it best to start at the top next to the long section of rail or at the base 
of the rear side window? The curved piece seems to have an odd bend to create a 
friction fit but it's just not happening for me. So frustrating!

Thanks,

Dave
'82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) 




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Re: [MBZ] need help re-installing W123 wagon drip rail end piece

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Dave,

As we discussed earlier, I did this on my 79 wagon and I believe I started at 
the top where the piece meets the long drip rail piece so everything matched 
up. I don't recall much about putting this piece on, but I do recall putting 
the drip rail piece on and it was a real PITA.

If you haven't already, find some pieces of oak to fashion a tool to drive 
these on. I'll look in my W123 CD to see if they have a diagram for the tool. I 
know I had a diagram from a manual to fashion the tool.

Dan

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On Aug 15, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Long story short -  my '84 Euro wagon finally got a respray. Yeah!  All trim 
 removed and replaced successfully EXCEPT the curved rear section of the roof 
 drip rail on the  D-pillar. I can get close but one end or the other pops off 
 the car when I try to tap it home. The long straight drip rail run from the 
 windshield back is no problem.
 
 I'm planning to visit the bone yards to find some W123s to practice RRing 
 this piece (sedans and wagons since the end section is similar) but am 
 looking for hints or tips from anyone who has been here and done this.  
 
 Is it best to start at the top next to the long section of rail or at the 
 base of the rear side window? The curved piece seems to have an odd bend to 
 create a friction fit but it's just not happening for me. So frustrating!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 15, 2013 8:27 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 So you would be good with an electric
 car as long as it has an 8 track
 player to make Camaro noises when
 you go?  Gotcha.

That's pretty much what you get when you buy a new BMW: the turbo four in
the base models doesn't sound enough like the old sixes, so to make up for
it the engine computer sends synthesized vroom-vroom noises to the stereo
when you hit the gas.  (Clearly a sign that the Apocalypse is nigh.)

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Kraly

the engine computer sends synthesized vroom-vroom noises to the stereo
when you hit the gas.

Really?  That just sounds so silly!  It should be blasted through a PA 
system so that people OUTSIDE the car get to participate in the illusion as 
well.  :D


Kevin in LaPorte Colorado, soon to be moving back to Hillsboro, Oregon in 
September 



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-15 Thread Randy Bennell

On 15/08/2013 1:42 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:

the engine computer sends synthesized vroom-vroom noises to the stereo
when you hit the gas.

Really?  That just sounds so silly!  It should be blasted through a PA 
system so that people OUTSIDE the car get to participate in the 
illusion as well.  :D


Kevin in LaPorte Colorado, soon to be moving back to Hillsboro, Oregon 
in September


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[MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I put a new alternator in my '84 190D a couple weeks ago. In doing so I noticed 
the pulley didn't line up perfectly with the crank, this was the same on the 
old alternator (which I put in back in December) so I moved my spacers over. 
Unfortunately this alternator had a different kind of center nut so I had to 
put in some washers so the nut would run tight against the pulley.

The first time I drove it any amount I had breakfast with Fred. On my way home 
the nut and therefore pulley came loose and dropped the belt. Drat.
Fred to the rescue! He came and we put the belt back on, drove a couple miles 
to his friend's house, pulled the alternator (which is really easy), put the 
pulley back on tight and ran it on with an impact gun and locktite, not coming 
loose again.

Until today (about 500 miles later). On the way to work just as I got off the 
highway I felt the steering go heavy, looked down and saw the temp gauge at 
HOT, shut the engine down and pulled off the highway, managed to roll onto a 
quiet street. Pulley loose, belt dropped. Fortunately I was close enough to 
walk to work. Fred had been encouraging me to buy his '87 190D so I gave him a 
shout to tell him the tale and inquire about how soon I could get it.

Around lunch time Fred called me, he was in town and within a couple minutes 
was at my office. We drove to the car and as I pulled the alternator (with a 
wrench he had given me) he pulled not one but TWO alternators out of his trunk. 
One was a junkyard pull that looked pretty good so I installed it. The model 
number was similar but slightly different, I forget exactly but the one I had 
was like a 43, the one Fred bought was like a 41. I installed Fred's alternator 
and it works like a dream. In fact it fits better than the one I took out. I 
*think* my problem this whole time is that the alts I've been getting from 
WorldPac (through CarQuest) haven't been exactly right...

Anyway I started the car and drove back the mile or so to work with no odd 
noises or feelings or smells. It looks as though I may have dodged a bullet 
although I recall writing that once before.

So three cheers for Fred the best friend a boy could have!

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You should have ordered that from jabba the fat then it would have fit right 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I put a new alternator in my '84 190D a couple weeks ago. In doing so I 
 noticed the pulley didn't line up perfectly with the crank, this was the same 
 on the old alternator (which I put in back in December) so I moved my spacers 
 over. Unfortunately this alternator had a different kind of center nut so I 
 had to put in some washers so the nut would run tight against the pulley.
 
 The first time I drove it any amount I had breakfast with Fred. On my way 
 home the nut and therefore pulley came loose and dropped the belt. Drat.
 Fred to the rescue! He came and we put the belt back on, drove a couple miles 
 to his friend's house, pulled the alternator (which is really easy), put the 
 pulley back on tight and ran it on with an impact gun and locktite, not 
 coming loose again.
 
 Until today (about 500 miles later). On the way to work just as I got off the 
 highway I felt the steering go heavy, looked down and saw the temp gauge at 
 HOT, shut the engine down and pulled off the highway, managed to roll onto a 
 quiet street. Pulley loose, belt dropped. Fortunately I was close enough to 
 walk to work. Fred had been encouraging me to buy his '87 190D so I gave him 
 a shout to tell him the tale and inquire about how soon I could get it.
 
 Around lunch time Fred called me, he was in town and within a couple minutes 
 was at my office. We drove to the car and as I pulled the alternator (with a 
 wrench he had given me) he pulled not one but TWO alternators out of his 
 trunk. One was a junkyard pull that looked pretty good so I installed it. The 
 model number was similar but slightly different, I forget exactly but the one 
 I had was like a 43, the one Fred bought was like a 41. I installed Fred's 
 alternator and it works like a dream. In fact it fits better than the one I 
 took out. I *think* my problem this whole time is that the alts I've been 
 getting from WorldPac (through CarQuest) haven't been exactly right...
 
 Anyway I started the car and drove back the mile or so to work with no odd 
 noises or feelings or smells. It looks as though I may have dodged a bullet 
 although I recall writing that once before.
 
 So three cheers for Fred the best friend a boy could have!
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T

Right on Roger!!
;-)

Just keep saying hope  change, hope and change

LOL -
LarryT

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LarryT,
I'm with you 100% regarding the ACA train wreck!!! Isn't transparency in 
government wonderful? Still waiting to see it.
Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique)

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T
Thanks - I know how to recognie when W124 MMs go bad but how about W123 
MM?  do they squish and get thinner?  Something else?


Larry

On 8/14/2013 8:03 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

lemforder doesn't make motor mounts.  you may get OEM mounts in a lemforder
box, but they weren't made by lemforder.

phoenix makes motor mounts.  btw, they also make (or at least used to) the
suspension air bags on 109 cars


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


and unfortunately the price is not a good indicator of quality. I think
the w124 MMs were Lemforder but that's from memory - I believe they were
around $65 ea.

Thanks Gary for all your insight on these parts -

Larry


On 8/6/2013 5:27 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


if you know the brand, that would be the first thing.  in you case here,
really phoenix would have come in a lemforder, corteco, rein/crp, phoenix
or mercedes box.  anything else will likely be anywhere from really dismal
chinese to sort of ok chinese.  you'll know soon enough, i guess, albeit
perhaps the hard way


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

  that's not a bad idea!  Don't know if it;s the sae with the W123 240s as

it was with my W124 300D but when I replaced the MMs on the W124 the
change
to many things about the engine improved - it was much quieter, the idle
speed was better and the shaking and jerking at idle and  low speeds
disappeared.   I was really surprised at the difference..   Bought the
replacements from Rusty and hope they are quality - better keep an eye on
them in case thy are Chinese 



LarryT
78 240D
91 300D

On 8/5/2013 10:23 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  seems i can get other ones as well.  i probably should just buy them all

and be king of the 240D moutns


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
wrote:

   this is more and more the case every day. i have found some lemforders


though, so all should work out well.  in motor mounts these are often
genuine with the star ground down for 1/3 the price or better.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net


wrote:


   Wow can't get febi or whatever anymore? Either have to pay way too
much


for mb or buy the uro and change then about once a year

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

   On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
wrote:


   -- the URO brand are around  $25 and the MB are $125+
Rock Auto lists DEA, Anchor, URO, and Beck Arnley.

Dr. Fattys website lists URO only.

Keenan has OEM for $118.22

Jabba may know what is what with the ones at Crock Auto. If he can
get

  Rein, Meyle, or something that sounds German, that would be the

ticket.

  Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
It'd still have come from WorldPac.

Of course this is my typical I need it right now thing.

I nearly bought a used one last time, should have too. I only didn't because 
this one still had warranty.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:38:02 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grrr
Message-ID: 23a5205b-d6d4-4441-9bb3-680ff396a...@striplin.net
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You should have ordered that from jabba the fat then it would have fit right 

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Anything south of Bangor is southern ;)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:57:28 -0400
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
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Actually midcoast Maine.

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 Coastal Southern Maine... He doesn't get any more snow than I do in MA, some 
 years he probably gets a lot less...
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Attaboy, Fred the Moor-killer!

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Larry T wrote:
Thanks - I know how to recognie when W124 MMs go bad but how about W123 
MM?  do they squish and get thinner?  Something else?


Yes, I think the engine mount arm is supposed to sit about 3/4 above the metal 
frame of the motor mount.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes Fred is our man here in New England.

On Thursday, August 15, 2013, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Attaboy, Fred the Moor-killer!

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Scott Ritchey

123 mounts are solid rubber.  They either get real hard (shake shake) or get
soft and compress (shake shake).  The original ones on my TD compressed to
the point some hoses/pipes rubbed on the fender (or maybe the shock tower)
until they leaked.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

Thanks - I know how to recognie when W124 MMs go bad but how about W123 
MM?  do they squish and get thinner?  Something else?

Larry

On 8/14/2013 8:03 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 lemforder doesn't make motor mounts.  you may get OEM mounts in a
lemforder
 box, but they weren't made by lemforder.

 phoenix makes motor mounts.  btw, they also make (or at least used to) the
 suspension air bags on 109 cars


 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 and unfortunately the price is not a good indicator of quality. I think
 the w124 MMs were Lemforder but that's from memory - I believe they were
 around $65 ea.

 Thanks Gary for all your insight on these parts -

 Larry


 On 8/6/2013 5:27 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 if you know the brand, that would be the first thing.  in you case here,
 really phoenix would have come in a lemforder, corteco, rein/crp,
phoenix
 or mercedes box.  anything else will likely be anywhere from really
dismal
 chinese to sort of ok chinese.  you'll know soon enough, i guess, albeit
 perhaps the hard way


 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

   that's not a bad idea!  Don't know if it;s the sae with the W123 240s
as
 it was with my W124 300D but when I replaced the MMs on the W124 the
 change
 to many things about the engine improved - it was much quieter, the
idle
 speed was better and the shaking and jerking at idle and  low speeds
 disappeared.   I was really surprised at the difference..   Bought the
 replacements from Rusty and hope they are quality - better keep an eye
on
 them in case thy are Chinese 



 LarryT
 78 240D
 91 300D

 On 8/5/2013 10:23 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

   seems i can get other ones as well.  i probably should just buy them
all
 and be king of the 240D moutns


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

this is more and more the case every day. i have found some
lemforders

 though, so all should work out well.  in motor mounts these are often
 genuine with the star ground down for 1/3 the price or better.


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

 wrote:

Wow can't get febi or whatever anymore? Either have to pay way too
 much

 for mb or buy the uro and change then about once a year

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
 wrote:

-- the URO brand are around  $25 and the MB are $125+
 Rock Auto lists DEA, Anchor, URO, and Beck Arnley.

 Dr. Fattys website lists URO only.

 Keenan has OEM for $118.22

 Jabba may know what is what with the ones at Crock Auto. If he can
 get

   Rein, Meyle, or something that sounds German, that would be the
 ticket.

   Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T
BTW, does MB mention anything about re-torquing the head bolts on those 
engines?   They may call for re-torquing after a rebuild i.e. a valve 
job etc. , and putting 100 miles or so on them, but for a original 
engine i haven't seen anything suggesting such.


Just wondering why  head gaskets lets go after many miles of 
service...   I know, stuff happens)  ;-)



Larry




On 7/15/2013 12:16 PM, WILTON wrote:

Yep; thanks.

I suspect it started few weeks ago when the 2½-year old lower rad hose 
blew, though I did not notice the temp going to redline. Temp was 
headed up fast when I shut it down.


Wilton

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And just when you got it on the road again!!!
Sorry!

:-(


On 7/15/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote:

'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for
several weeks,  though car hasn't been driven much.  I fill it, go
for short drive and coolant level would be down about an inch in
overflow tank.  No leak evident. 'Been checking oil level, too,
which has been holding at about mid point on stick.  Took it out for
short drive coupla days ago.  Coolant level light came on immediately
as I backed out of its parking space.  Checked coolant level upon
return; overflow tank empty!  No leak evident!  Just went to car and
checked oil level - up to middle of upper red tab on the stick!!!  I
think I found the missing coolant!!!

Wilton



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Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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Re: [MBZ] How I beat the saw

2013-08-15 Thread Scott Ritchey

For what it's worth, it seems ALL of these 2-cycle engines use Zama or
Walbro carburetors.  I planned to rebuild the carb on my Poulan Pro leaf
blower but the kit was $12 and a whole new carb was just $23 (guess which
one I ordered).  My blower got to the point the choke needed to be part-way
on for the engine to run.  This is a symptom of a stiff lower diaphragm (the
one that works the needle valve) in the carb (Zama, by the way).  I suspect
this is a casualty of the gasohol we are forced to use.  

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Hans
Neureiter
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I beat the saw

Husqvarna bought Poulan


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Well as you know I took pack the pos poulan 18 and got another pos poulan
 20 50cc. Looking at it at the store I could tell it was much better
kwality
 than the other poulan, in fact looked like a husky except for the color
and
 label. Anyway, filled it up with oil and gas and holy mother that thing
 fired right up and just tore up that tree. Took me about 15 min to cut it
 up. Never died, idled right. Half a pull warm and it fires right up. Night
 and day difference. I am convinced its really a husky but whatever the
case
 may be, it's a world apart from the last one.

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Re: [MBZ] need help re-installing W123 wagon drip rail end piece

2013-08-15 Thread Dave Cavner
Thanks for the on list reply, Dan. Good to know you started at the roof line.

I had wondered if the paint build-up from the respray had a negative effect on 
reattaching the piece but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have no problem 
seating the long rails with a rubber mallet. I used painters tape and towels to 
protect the new paint. The trim removal tools from harbor freight work very 
well.
(see someone else's drip rail attachment pictures at 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/3467789-post422.html)
 I've been messing with this so long I can now repeatedly remove and replace 
the long rail without damaging the paint. 

Similarly, I am able to seat half the curved piece but after ruining one rear 
piece buy forcing the aluminum channel too much,  I am now cautious with the 
applied force.

Almost immediately after posting here I had a light bulb moment and called the 
Classic Center which is local to me. They are all at Pebble Beach right now but 
my trusty sales guy said the restoration crews should be back next week and may 
be able to assist or give pointers. Fingers crossed.

Dave
'82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) 



On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Dave,
 
 As we discussed earlier, I did this on my 79 wagon and I believe I started at 
 the top where the piece meets the long drip rail piece so everything matched 
 up. I don't recall much about putting this piece on, but I do recall putting 
 the drip rail piece on and it was a real PITA.
 
 If you haven't already, find some pieces of oak to fashion a tool to drive 
 these on. I'll look in my W123 CD to see if they have a diagram for the tool. 
 I know I had a diagram from a manual to fashion the tool.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 15, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Long story short -  my '84 Euro wagon finally got a respray. Yeah!  All trim 
 removed and replaced successfully EXCEPT the curved rear section of the roof 
 drip rail on the  D-pillar. I can get close but one end or the other pops 
 off the car when I try to tap it home. The long straight drip rail run from 
 the windshield back is no problem.
 
 I'm planning to visit the bone yards to find some W123s to practice RRing 
 this piece (sedans and wagons since the end section is similar) but am 
 looking for hints or tips from anyone who has been here and done this.  
 
 Is it best to start at the top next to the long section of rail or at the 
 base of the rear side window? The curved piece seems to have an odd bend to 
 create a friction fit but it's just not happening for me. So frustrating!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) 


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[MBZ] Kubota

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I'm stopping by in a minute to look at that kubota again and will probably 
leave a deposit till tomorrow

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Re: [MBZ] holy grail of bike tire size info

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs
Sheldon's got references for everything else too.  I use his site all 
the time.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/15/2013 11:27 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

here's the holy grail site for bike wheel and tire sizes

it explains it all, including Schwinn sizes and French sizes

http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins



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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Randy Bennell

On 15/08/2013 2:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I put a new alternator in my '84 190D a couple weeks ago. In doing so I noticed 
the pulley didn't line up perfectly with the crank, this was the same on the 
old alternator (which I put in back in December) so I moved my spacers over. 
Unfortunately this alternator had a different kind of center nut so I had to 
put in some washers so the nut would run tight against the pulley.

The first time I drove it any amount I had breakfast with Fred. On my way home 
the nut and therefore pulley came loose and dropped the belt. Drat.
Fred to the rescue! He came and we put the belt back on, drove a couple miles 
to his friend's house, pulled the alternator (which is really easy), put the 
pulley back on tight and ran it on with an impact gun and locktite, not coming 
loose again.

Until today (about 500 miles later). On the way to work just as I got off the 
highway I felt the steering go heavy, looked down and saw the temp gauge at 
HOT, shut the engine down and pulled off the highway, managed to roll onto a 
quiet street. Pulley loose, belt dropped. Fortunately I was close enough to 
walk to work. Fred had been encouraging me to buy his '87 190D so I gave him a 
shout to tell him the tale and inquire about how soon I could get it.

Around lunch time Fred called me, he was in town and within a couple minutes 
was at my office. We drove to the car and as I pulled the alternator (with a 
wrench he had given me) he pulled not one but TWO alternators out of his trunk. 
One was a junkyard pull that looked pretty good so I installed it. The model 
number was similar but slightly different, I forget exactly but the one I had 
was like a 43, the one Fred bought was like a 41. I installed Fred's alternator 
and it works like a dream. In fact it fits better than the one I took out. I 
*think* my problem this whole time is that the alts I've been getting from 
WorldPac (through CarQuest) haven't been exactly right...

Anyway I started the car and drove back the mile or so to work with no odd 
noises or feelings or smells. It looks as though I may have dodged a bullet 
although I recall writing that once before.

So three cheers for Fred the best friend a boy could have!

-Curt
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So, did you buy the spare car from Fred?


Randy who had a wonky alternator on a 1968 Chevy pickup for close to 25 
years


(The engine had been changed by the previous owner and something was 
different. The alternator and the balancer did not align well with the 
water pump. We cut 1/4 off the nose of the balancer in a big lather and 
I cut a bit of the alternator away in order to get it to work and it 
stayed like that until I sold the truck. I got it in 1984 or 5 and sold 
it about 2 years ago)


I have a friend who bought a motorhome in Florida or somewhere down SE 
and drove it home. Big block Chevy engine. He replaced the alternator at 
least 2 times on the way from there to Canada and later discovered it 
was not the right alternator for the application. I think, sometimes 
people cannot get what they should have and are anxious to get moving so 
they put whatever is available on and carry on.


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs
Maybe the only old tires I've dealt with were cheap and didn't use a 
high TPI or good quality rubber.  Most of the tires I'm running now are 
120TPI which ends up being very comfortable.  This is probably why I 
thought older tires didn't use the higher TPI of current tech.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/15/2013 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Benz Hogs wrote:

Maybe.  IMO, new technology added more threads to the tire making
700x28s are as comfortable as the old 1-1/4 tire.  Also, the tire
rubber is thinner and stronger than older tech.


Really?
The tires I bought in the 1980s and 1990s were 66 tpi (Specialized
Touring II) and up. Seems like the affordable tires today have heavier
casing thread.
The Vittoria Zaffiros I got from Nashbar a couple of months ago have
thicker rubber in the center than any road tire I used to buy, and I got
the idea the casing was coarser than 66tpi.
Are you saying that something like a Continental GP is thinner than a GP
from 20 years ago?

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas

Car shake on start?

--L


On 8/15/13 4:29 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

23 mounts are solid rubber.  They either get real hard (shake shake) or get
soft and compress (shake shake).



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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Frederick Moir
Mitch, et al.
That's ancient history.
I prefer creating life, or at least trying to.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grrr
 

Attaboy, Fred the Moor-killer!

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-15 Thread G Mann
Hype and Chains .. Hype and Chains... now tap your little red shoes
together 3 times




On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Right on Roger!!
 ;-)

 Just keep saying hope  change, hope and change

 LOL -
 LarryT

 On 8/14/2013 9:03 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 LarryT,
 I'm with you 100% regarding the ACA train wreck!!! Isn't transparency in
 government wonderful? Still waiting to see it.
 Roger

 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
 www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique)

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T
yep, shakes start  at idle for that matter.  I've been adjusting the 
throttle cable to make it start easier and shake less, then once moving 
I adjust it all the way down...


LarryT

On 8/15/2013 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Car shake on start?

--L


On 8/15/13 4:29 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
23 mounts are solid rubber.  They either get real hard (shake shake) 
or get

soft and compress (shake shake).



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Re: [MBZ] ACA

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T

haha - Good one... ;-)

LarryT

On 8/15/2013 5:51 PM, G Mann wrote:

Hype and Chains .. Hype and Chains... now tap your little red shoes
together 3 times




On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


Right on Roger!!
;-)

Just keep saying hope  change, hope and change

LOL -
LarryT

On 8/14/2013 9:03 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote:


LarryT,
I'm with you 100% regarding the ACA train wreck!!! Isn't transparency in
government wonderful? Still waiting to see it.
Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique)

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-08-15 Thread WILTON
'Never heard anything about it from MB tech who did the work on it 17 years 
and 115 kmi ago.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news


BTW, does MB mention anything about re-torquing the head bolts on those
engines?   They may call for re-torquing after a rebuild i.e. a valve
job etc. , and putting 100 miles or so on them, but for a original
engine i haven't seen anything suggesting such.

Just wondering why  head gaskets lets go after many miles of
service...   I know, stuff happens)  ;-)


Larry




On 7/15/2013 12:16 PM, WILTON wrote:

Yep; thanks.

I suspect it started few weeks ago when the 2½-year old lower rad hose 
blew, though I did not notice the temp going to redline. Temp was headed 
up fast when I shut it down.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news




And just when you got it on the road again!!!
Sorry!

:-(


On 7/15/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote:

'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for
several weeks,  though car hasn't been driven much.  I fill it, go
for short drive and coolant level would be down about an inch in
overflow tank.  No leak evident. 'Been checking oil level, too,
which has been holding at about mid point on stick.  Took it out for
short drive coupla days ago.  Coolant level light came on immediately
as I backed out of its parking space.  Checked coolant level upon
return; overflow tank empty!  No leak evident!  Just went to car and
checked oil level - up to middle of upper red tab on the stick!!!  I
think I found the missing coolant!!!

Wilton



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MBCA Peachtree section
Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I did consider a truck, but I don't have the space to just let something
sit around here.  I think the tractor will do just find with some chains
and weight.  I'm quite a bit more inland than I used to be, so I expect
more snow.  Its always hard to say how much... we've gone from a good size
snowfall every week to only one per year.  With how crazy the weather has
been (it was 49F here when I left for work this morning), theres no telling
what winter will bring.

Jaime



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I agree. In costal NJ you could probably even get away with a 2wd truck
 and a thousand pounds of weight in the back with chains on the tires except
 for the worst of storms like the blizzard you had a couple years ago.

 You should be able to get a yard truck that isn't suitable for the road
 cheap enough. A friend of mine has one that was t-boned, the truck is
 banana shaped but does the job just fine.

 -Curt

 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:44:12 -0400
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
 Message-ID: 3f06b219-fbf3-49d2-90dc-618dc9ab3...@gwi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 If you want to plow, get a 4WD truck.  Otherwise, use a blower.

 Jon


 On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

  The driveway is long, but its also gravel well, compacted gravel into
  dirt.  Its been a while since anyone has dumped new gravel on it.  I'm
  hoping to get the support of the other three neighbors over the next year
  or two to pave it, but thats another story all together.  Right in front
 of
  my house is fresh loose gravel, which will get pushed around much easier.
 
  Anyone have any experience with plow vs blower on gravel/dirt?
 
  Jaime
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[MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Anybody else notice anything strange about the picture of the engine  
of that Airbus?  The one I saw is on weather.com.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Frederick Moir wrote:

Mitch, et al.
That's ancient history.
I prefer creating life, or at least trying to.


Always fun to attempt creating life, as long as you have an under fourty year 
old female handy. ;-)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I cant believe it went this high

2013-08-15 Thread Scott Ritchey

High population density only works when they are supported by thousands of
acres with low population density constantly providing food, water, power,
etc. Consider: how long would Manhattan or Boston survive without water,
power, and a constant supply of supplies shipped in from outside?  When the
crash comes, I'd much rather be living on a farm somewhere than in one of
those concrete ant piles.

Scott


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I cant believe it went this high

One of the keys to high population density is the availability of
essentials, like food, in every neighborhood. that means small shops, which
means high overhead, therfore higher prices. Once the population is
accustomed to shopping for everything at the Walmart superstore, they
aren't going to like paying realistic prices for food and other goods,
hence, it will never sell.


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Because you were fed a bill of goods when your cities were designed.
 At some point we need to take a hard look at our suburbs, they're energy
 hungry and not population dense enough to be efficient. As we transition
 from gasoline/diesel cars to whatever comes next higher population density
 will help us increase energy efficiency. With luck we can do it without
 transitioning to Soviet era drab. Places like the No. Ho. arts district
and
 San Francisco give me hope.

 Anywhere that relies upon buses for mass transit doesn't...

 -Curt




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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Get double or even triple weights and good chains with teeth on them not just 
chain and you might be okay with a plow.
Remember push back your driveway 10-15' at the beginning of the winter or it'll 
snow so much you'll have a narrow aisle at the end. If you start real wide you 
won't have any snow ;)

Worst winter we had for keeping our driveway clear was (as I remember) 
2010-2011. I'd had 4 cords of wood delivered and I had my '83 240D parked 
beside the garage, had nowhere to put the snow...

-Curt

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I did consider a truck, but I don't have the space to just let something
sit around here.  I think the tractor will do just find with some chains
and weight.  I'm quite a bit more inland than I used to be, so I expect
more snow.  Its always hard to say how much... we've gone from a good size
snowfall every week to only one per year.  With how crazy the weather has
been (it was 49F here when I left for work this morning), theres no telling
what winter will bring.

Jaime
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[MBZ] 123 Starter Motor Woes

2013-08-15 Thread Jerry Herrman
My neighbor, retired military with too much time on his hands, has been 
pampering his '83 300CD with all sorts of non-urgent work (my judgment, not 
his). His latest project is to remove and replace his starter motor strictly 
for preventive reasons. This topic must have come up on this forum. Where would 
I find that archival material? 
He says that with some effort he has been able to crack loose the lower bolt, 
but the top bolt won't budge, in part because he does not have the proper tool, 
and because it is tight and difficult to access. He has soaked it with 
penetrating oil and is on a seven day waiting period for that to soak in. 
Meanwhile he tells me that the proper tool is a Hazet 10 mm hex wrench or 
socket for busting loose that bolt. So anyway, I'd like to give him any 
information on how others have tackled this job.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Starter Motor Woes

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Penoff
With a series of 1/2 drive extensions and universal joints.  The worst part is 
that you have very little room to turn, so you must get everything wound up so 
the slack is out of it before you get it positioned to turn the ratchet.

You have to snap the driver to break it loose, so I've found.

Dan

 
On Aug 15, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:

 My neighbor, retired military with too much time on his hands, has been 
 pampering his '83 300CD with all sorts of non-urgent work (my judgment, not 
 his). His latest project is to remove and replace his starter motor strictly 
 for preventive reasons. This topic must have come up on this forum. Where 
 would I find that archival material? 
 He says that with some effort he has been able to crack loose the lower bolt, 
 but the top bolt won't budge, in part because he does not have the proper 
 tool, and because it is tight and difficult to access. He has soaked it with 
 penetrating oil and is on a seven day waiting period for that to soak in. 
 Meanwhile he tells me that the proper tool is a Hazet 10 mm hex wrench or 
 socket for busting loose that bolt. So anyway, I'd like to give him any 
 information on how others have tackled this job.
 
 Jerry
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318

2013-08-15 Thread dseretakis
I'll take your word for it being a native!

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Anything south of Bangor is southern ;)
 
 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:57:28 -0400
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
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 Actually midcoast Maine.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Coastal Southern Maine... He doesn't get any more snow than I do in MA, some 
 years he probably gets a lot less...
  
 -Curt
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[MBZ] New job at Mercedes for Jaime

2013-08-15 Thread Mountain Man
www.bloomberg.com/video/how-amg-assembles-its-coveted-591-hp-engine-by-hand-zj5fpLRCSXiHXT96C7a~Eg.html

Just a short transfer across the pond.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

2013-08-15 Thread Mountain Man
Luther wrote:
 See this video for an idea of my fall fun :)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxuDZL_420

I didn't see your name at the end credits streaming?  You gotta talk
to the video editor.
Where are the courses?  Can we watch you race?
Looks like a lot more bike than my Chicago Schwinn.  Does Schwinn have
equipment in this style?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-15 Thread Mountain Man
Mike wrote:
 So you would be good with an electric car...

I would do electric just fine.  Living with limits is part of the fun
of life.  35 miles/charge? or whatever? - so what.  It takes strategy
and planning to do stuff, not unlike 3-pedal car.  30 years ago I read
EHV News - magazine for Electric and Hybrid Vehicles as part of my
job description.  We were doing studies for low-head hydroelectric
installations for City of Aspen and that also included what to do with
electricity.  Electric bus to Snowmass was contemplated.  That was
fun.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] holy grail of bike tire size info

2013-08-15 Thread Mountain Man
KB5QUH wrote:
 Sheldon's got references for everything else too.  I use his site all the
 time.

Totally.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] New job at Mercedes for Jaime

2013-08-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I'm not sure how you get transferred there... but I'm sure its difficult!


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:


 www.bloomberg.com/video/how-amg-assembles-its-coveted-591-hp-engine-by-hand-zj5fpLRCSXiHXT96C7a~Eg.html

 Just a short transfer across the pond.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Frederick Moir
Mitch.
Females? I was talking about kite-flying in a thunder storm!
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grrr
 

Frederick Moir wrote:
 Mitch, et al.
 That's ancient history.
 I prefer creating life, or at least trying to.

Always fun to attempt creating life, as long as you have an under fourty year 
old female handy. ;-)

Mitch.

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[MBZ] '75 300D a/c conversion

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs
My Dad's '75 300D has a York a/c compressor and he seems to think that 
these cannot be converted to R134.  Something about the York compressors 
not being able to handle the higher R134 pressures.  Can anyone confirm 
or refute this?



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Starter Motor Woes

2013-08-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Dan is right... you just need a bunch of extensions and the 10mm hex on a
swivel.  You come in from the bottom along the transmission.  Laying under
the car, you can work the ratchet with two hands.  Its helpful to have a
helper to get the hex key into the bolt.  Its not a fun job, but not really
that terrible once you get the hang of it.  I remember doing it once laying
in packed snow... that was no fun.

Jaime



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 With a series of 1/2 drive extensions and universal joints.  The worst
 part is that you have very little room to turn, so you must get everything
 wound up so the slack is out of it before you get it positioned to turn the
 ratchet.

 You have to snap the driver to break it loose, so I've found.

 Dan


 On Aug 15, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:

  My neighbor, retired military with too much time on his hands, has been
 pampering his '83 300CD with all sorts of non-urgent work (my judgment, not
 his). His latest project is to remove and replace his starter motor
 strictly for preventive reasons. This topic must have come up on this
 forum. Where would I find that archival material?
  He says that with some effort he has been able to crack loose the lower
 bolt, but the top bolt won't budge, in part because he does not have the
 proper tool, and because it is tight and difficult to access. He has soaked
 it with penetrating oil and is on a seven day waiting period for that to
 soak in. Meanwhile he tells me that the proper tool is a Hazet 10 mm hex
 wrench or socket for busting loose that bolt. So anyway, I'd like to give
 him any information on how others have tackled this job.
 
  Jerry
  82 240D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Frederick Moir wrote:

Mitch.
Females? I was talking about kite-flying in a thunder storm!


Dr Fredenstein, I presume?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '75 300D a/c conversion

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
he still has that car? they are very tough, i do not see why they cant 
be converted but have heard they do not cool as good.


On 8/15/2013 9:16 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:
My Dad's '75 300D has a York a/c compressor and he seems to think that 
these cannot be converted to R134.  Something about the York 
compressors not being able to handle the higher R134 pressures. Can 
anyone confirm or refute this?






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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Mountain Man
Larry wrote:
 yep, shakes start  at idle for that matter.

Ah...  Now we know who Ludmila Grobtkin is - it is Larry.  When was
the last time Ludmila showed at Banned?  Car shake at idle.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

2013-08-15 Thread Benz Hogs

Wanna watch me race?  Here's the schedule.  http://chicrosscup.com/schedule/

Does Schwinn have CX bikes? Not the drop bar style, just 
flat-bar-hybrids that use mountain style brakes and can handle wider 
tires.  That'll get you tons of heckle.  Probably not as much as my 
baseball pants, but that's the point of my pants :D


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)

On 8/15/2013 9:02 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Luther wrote:

See this video for an idea of my fall fun :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxuDZL_420


I didn't see your name at the end credits streaming?  You gotta talk
to the video editor.
Where are the courses?  Can we watch you race?
Looks like a lot more bike than my Chicago Schwinn.  Does Schwinn have
equipment in this style?
mao



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Starter Motor Woes

2013-08-15 Thread G Mann
Glad to.

1/2 inch drive Ingersol Rand air impact gun. 125 psi. air pressure. Impact
wiggle tail socket adaptor coupled with the 10 MM hex tool [Snapon, in my
case] and several long 1/2 inch extensions to put the impact gun away from
the transmission and in the space along side it. Set the gun at highest
setting for impact and engage trigger... after making sure you have the 10
MM hex fully engaged and good forward pressure on the extensions.  I use a
leather glove on the hand guiding the extensions while running the impact
to keep everything perfectly aligned..

Should hammer for a few strokes and spin right out..

Helps if you have the car on 4 ea. 3 ton jackstands at high enough setting
to give you room to work. Lay a piece of cardboard on shop floor to lay on,
which will give you another 5 inches rather than use a creeper..

Good luck...

Grant...


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 My neighbor, retired military with too much time on his hands, has been
 pampering his '83 300CD with all sorts of non-urgent work (my judgment, not
 his). His latest project is to remove and replace his starter motor
 strictly for preventive reasons. This topic must have come up on this
 forum. Where would I find that archival material?
 He says that with some effort he has been able to crack loose the lower
 bolt, but the top bolt won't budge, in part because he does not have the
 proper tool, and because it is tight and difficult to access. He has soaked
 it with penetrating oil and is on a seven day waiting period for that to
 soak in. Meanwhile he tells me that the proper tool is a Hazet 10 mm hex
 wrench or socket for busting loose that bolt. So anyway, I'd like to give
 him any information on how others have tackled this job.

 Jerry
 82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] '75 300D a/c conversion

2013-08-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
 On 8/15/2013 9:16 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:

 My Dad's '75 300D has a York a/c
 compressor and he seems to think
 that these cannot be converted to
 R134.

Talk him into using ES-12 or Cathey-12, and avoid the issue entirely.

No system designed for R-12 cools as well with 134.  It's just the nature
of the beast.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Craig
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:46:01 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Anybody else notice anything strange about the picture of the engine  
 of that Airbus?  The one I saw is on weather.com.

You mean the one with a few guys standing in front of it with nothing
else in the area? Where the front fan has a lot of dirt on it?

I'm not sure what you might consider strange


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at  
25,000 rpm.



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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i recall being accused of being ludmilla.  also of the lindbergh baby.  i
do get around!

i remember once when a mount broke on my 220D.  whole lotta shaking goin on!



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote:

 Larry wrote:
  yep, shakes start  at idle for that matter.

 Ah...  Now we know who Ludmila Grobtkin is - it is Larry.  When was
 the last time Ludmila showed at Banned?  Car shake at idle.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
I put new subframe mounts in my 220D, then discovered that the engine  
mounts were shot when the AC compressor started pounding on the inner  
fender!  Quite a surprise, that


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Grrr

2013-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas

FredenSCHTEEN!

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On 8/15/13 10:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Frederick Moir wrote:

Mitch.
Females? I was talking about kite-flying in a thunder storm!


Dr Fredenstein, I presume?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Craig
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:30:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at  
 25,000 rpm.

Ah, yes, and it wouldn't have been as intact as it is if it had been
turning at speed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
If there had been normal power on (remember the Asiana crash), the  
engines would be spooled up a mile out.  Looks to me as it they were  
dead. just windmilling, especially since the aircraft also hit some  
trees before impact.


I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but it looks to me as if they were  
just windmilling on impact.


Deadstick landing in an Airbus 300, what a thought!

Had to have been a surprise for the crew as well, as they appear to  
have been talking a normal approach.


Wonder if it decided to land itself short of the runway?  Air India  
grounded all of theirs in the 90's for that very reason.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I heard on the radio that witnesses said the plane was on fire, maybe 
engines.  Wonder if they had a failure on an engine?


--R


On 8/15/13 11:57 PM, Craig wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:30:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:


Look at the dirt, then consider that it should have been rotating at
25,000 rpm.

Ah, yes, and it wouldn't have been as intact as it is if it had been
turning at speed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

2013-08-15 Thread Gary Hurst
it's quite amazing to watch and hear that thing move with a busted mount.
 after that, i just started doing mounts every 2 or 3 years on the old
diesels

btw, that 220D was maybe my favorite car i ever owned.  it was also the
lowest HP car i've ever owned, leading me to conclude the power is vastly
overrated


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I put new subframe mounts in my 220D, then discovered that the engine
 mounts were shot when the AC compressor started pounding on the inner
 fender!  Quite a surprise, that

 Peter


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Re: [MBZ] UPS Airbus crash

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick
An engine fire is possible.  They weren't out of fuel (big post-crash  
fire) but that doesn't mean it was being delivered to the engines nor  
that one or both of them failed.


Engine failures these days aren't very common, and PW makes good ones.

Peter

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[MBZ] Larry's Clock

2013-08-15 Thread Fmiser
Hey Larry, either your clock/calendar is off - or you have
succeeded in performing time travel!

Your last email came in with:
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:11:37 -0400

I'm not certain when it showed up, but right now that's about 18
hours in the future!

--   Philip, part-time time cop

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