Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
OK Don wrote: Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 Randy Bennell wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB G: Apparently Oxford, Cambridge, Trinity (Ireland), and a few other colleges in Canada and India are still practicing a form of apprenticeship. The student meets with his Don periodically and is questioned/advised on what he has learned from reading and lectures, which he could attend or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_don Years ago a study was done which determined that a student-teacher ratio of 7:1 was the most effective. While this is common in graduate programs, I wonder if any American or Canadian universities have such undergraduate classes. State universities in America were cancelling classes below a certain number of signees years ago and probably continue to do so. Also, some home schooled students; classic apprentices; do exceptionally well on college admission tests. Dons grandfather was remarkable; something of a modern day l'uomo universale or Man of the Renaissance who delved into, and mastered, many areas of knowledge: http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R On 12/22/14 2:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: We had ours last night. A whole lot of cleaning went on, including a (for me, rare) dump run. SWMBA wanted all the cars away from the front of the house in order to maximize guest parking. (About 30 guests, I think.) It was a fairly warm day, mid-40's and sunny, and for a change the semi- comatose cars cooperated. The 560 SEL actually _started_, so I got it backed out of the way. The Chicken Wagon started readily, of course, and with its bad B2 (?) was able to creep forward enough that I could get it into reverse and park it out of the way too. The 'heap, of course, cooperated nicely, and I ran it out to the end of the range, to mark beyond where not to go. I ran an extension cord out to power the in-car Christmas lights, and hooked up a battery charger so as to gain the parking lights as well. Very festive! It was eerie, having a completely empty parking pad. I even swept it, and poured fertilizer on all the oil spots. Easy to put six cars on concrete, and plenty of room for many more on the gravel. I don't want to leave the cars where they are, they need to be closer for tool access and electricity, and I dread SWMBA's reaction when I put them back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing
Okay this one made me laugh... Though I agree with Greg my first professional editing system after college was a Panasonic Postbox which was based on a 486. I managed to blow that up through a tragic serial mouse incident and it was rebuilt with a Pentium 200Mhz. It was a pretty quick editor for its day although severely limited in the effects department.The first computer based editor I ever used was Avid (my current employer) Media Composer on a Mac Quadra 950 which Wikipedia tells me ran a 6040 processor at 33mhz, max RAM was 256MB. Of course at that time Media Composer cost a minimum of $50,000 and came with a couple big cards that did the real heavy lifting. It was heaven coming from linear tape editing to the Quadra even if it did crash with frightening regularity. For editing now I have Media Composer on an older HP xw8600 and another copy on my Retina Macbook. For all the power in my Macbook the HP edits better, its hard to compete with 2 quad core processors and a real fullsize video card in a case that can vent the heat. My 24 monitor is way easier to use than the 15 laptop and a trackball gives more precision than a touchpad can. I got my copy of Media Composer through my employer but even if you had to pay retail its under a grand and we now do subscription. For most people its waaay overkill and would be dizzyingly hard to use. As for Linux video editing I was going to say don't bother but the last time I played with it was nearly 10 years ago and things have of course changed. I found: Build A Serious Multimedia Production Workstation With Arch Linux | Linux.com which looks promising. If I weren't trying to re-learn Media Composer (I've learned 4 other editors in the last 15 years, its hard to go back) I'd probably look that way. BTW RAM is king in video editing, my 8600 came to me with 4GB and ran pretty good with WinXP. Last summer I bought an SSD for boot and put Win7 on. It worked adequately but really woke up when I upped it to 10GB. When we mothball some more machines at work it'll go to 16GB or more... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'OK Don' okd...@gmail.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing ...on an older laptop. I would be reluctant to do any video editing on less than a core 2 duo @ around 2GHz with 3 or more Gb of RAM. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:25 PM To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing Isn't there a Linux distro that is tailored for multi-media production? Maybe that's the way I should go --- on an older laptop. Perhaps try both and then decide? OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. As I see, it has stimulated a great deal of comment about education, the quality of education, the quality of students, and education in general. This group in particular, perhaps more than most, has devoted years of their lives to the pursuit of education, kudos to all who have. Perhaps our backgrounds share many factors, most all coming from the past century. One factor which I find missing in the current generation, and the one before that, is not the lack of information, nor the availability of information. We are now flooded with data and information. What I find, on a daily basis, is the lack of ability to apply information using the principles of logic and moral character which our generation seemed to be given from birth. While our education system has grown to gargantuan proportions. We have given degrees of teaching to numbers of teachers unheard of ever in the past. Yet, we, as a society, send students to those teachers, who are not equipped with the basics of logic, decision making, and moral character, [which we all were given at home, I believe.] and supply said students with 12 yrs of state mandated attendance to school while never imparting the underlying principle of Make something of yourself or fail and die. Thus ensuring the successful continuation of the rather fragile specie, man. Your success in gaining education is a beautiful example of how America became successful. One individual, overcame obstacles, applied effort, gained education, then put it to use, using those same skills of overcoming obstacles which were used to gain the education. That example alone outlines the history of mankind when he has become civilized and successful in endeavors, large and small. I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK Don wrote: Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 Randy Bennell wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB G: Apparently Oxford, Cambridge, Trinity (Ireland), and a few other colleges in Canada and India are still practicing a form of apprenticeship. The student meets with his Don periodically and is questioned/advised on what he has learned from reading and lectures, which he could attend or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_don Years ago a study was done which determined that a student-teacher ratio of 7:1 was the most effective. While this is common in graduate programs, I wonder if any American or Canadian universities have such undergraduate classes. State universities in America were cancelling classes below a certain number of signees years ago and probably continue to do so. Also, some home schooled students; classic apprentices; do exceptionally well on college admission tests. Dons grandfather
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Grant - did you really mean decreed, or degreed? Editors or editor's? Lucky you weren't the one getting interviewed... I can see why you needed help. ;) *I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax,* On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. As I see, it has stimulated a great deal of comment about education, the quality of education, the quality of students, and education in general. This group in particular, perhaps more than most, has devoted years of their lives to the pursuit of education, kudos to all who have. Perhaps our backgrounds share many factors, most all coming from the past century. One factor which I find missing in the current generation, and the one before that, is not the lack of information, nor the availability of information. We are now flooded with data and information. What I find, on a daily basis, is the lack of ability to apply information using the principles of logic and moral character which our generation seemed to be given from birth. While our education system has grown to gargantuan proportions. We have given degrees of teaching to numbers of teachers unheard of ever in the past. Yet, we, as a society, send students to those teachers, who are not equipped with the basics of logic, decision making, and moral character, [which we all were given at home, I believe.] and supply said students with 12 yrs of state mandated attendance to school while never imparting the underlying principle of Make something of yourself or fail and die. Thus ensuring the successful continuation of the rather fragile specie, man. Your success in gaining education is a beautiful example of how America became successful. One individual, overcame obstacles, applied effort, gained education, then put it to use, using those same skills of overcoming obstacles which were used to gain the education. That example alone outlines the history of mankind when he has become civilized and successful in endeavors, large and small. I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK Don wrote: Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 Randy Bennell wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB G: Apparently Oxford, Cambridge, Trinity (Ireland), and a few other colleges in Canada and India are still practicing a form of apprenticeship. The student meets with his Don periodically and is questioned/advised on what he has learned from reading and lectures, which he could attend or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_don Years ago a study
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
G: I've had one of Garys in the 300D for about 3 years; still works well. I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8792 - Release Date: 12/23/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? BTW, thanks for the troubleshooting tip - I will defintely try this and unplug the monovalve assembly over the weekend. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:29 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the longer I was on the road, the colder it felt, but that may have been a cumulative effect... The classic symptom of a torn monovalve insert is heat ONLY at low engine RPM. It is possible, but not likely, that a damaged insert would cause no heat. But it could be electrical failure. I'd unplug the electrical connector on the monovalve and go for a drive. That is the full heat setting. If there is still no heat, it has to be the monovalve or the coolant flow. If there is heat - then it's the controller. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
A good teacher can spark a fire that will burn intensely. A bad one can snuff out that spark. RB On 22/12/2014 10:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Wholeheartedly agreed, Don. My personal experience is the best example I know. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
What's the advantage of a single slope roof? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
I am a serial nit picker who also commits typoes by the bushel load. Or do I mean typos? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A good teacher can spark a fire that will burn intensely. A bad one can snuff out that spark. RB On 22/12/2014 10:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Wholeheartedly agreed, Don. My personal experience is the best example I know. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_ contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung- hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
The real thing is over $100, what do you think? I'll make it real simple, cheap parts on eBay will always be a gamble, how much of a gambler are you? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? | MANUFACTURER | PART NUMBER | CONDITION | | MTC | 000-835-06-44 | BRAND NEW | OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Have at it ROFLMAO On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
The primary disadvantage is appearance. I suggest that most gabled roofs look better. RB On 23/12/2014 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
But are way harder to build, and even harder to build well... A single slope roof is very easy to build, its also easy to put roofing on which will last. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties The primary disadvantage is appearance. I suggest that most gabled roofs look better. RB On 23/12/2014 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its easier. Disadvantage is that on too wide a building you can't get enough strength to put up with significant snow load without lots of extra structure.The other disadvantage is you get a short side or a very tall side... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties What's the advantage of a single slope roof? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Actually 14 isn't so bad since the half sheet you cut for one side can be used on the other... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R On 12/23/14 11:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depends on how tall you want it. Thats a pretty easy size to work with. Figure out what kind of roof you want and work from there. At that size and considering where you live I'd say you could get away with a single slope roof without too much worry. I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. We'll be able to store just under 2 cords of firewood which when you add the half cord we keep in a stack next to the camp will be plenty. It'll be a single slope post and beam from spruce I'm going to cut onsite. I've got one upright already cut although I need to modify an old boat trailer to haul it out of the wood. I'd underestimated how HEAVY an 8 by 10' spruce tree would be, or maybe I'd overestimated my ability to haul trees as I've aged. -Curtnot that old yet. From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: December 23, 2014 at 11:41:29 AM EST To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Buy at classic center. Trust me, the non OE units are garbage. They look identical to OE but they are trash. Jon had three or four Chinese ones fail in a period of few months. One started leaking coolant badly and he almost overheated his engine. You get what you pay for. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the manufacturere of the OEM unit, Dimitri? Where can I get them? Are they made of platinum? In Switzerland? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
[MBZ] Sheds
I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. There is always the design we used: http://formicapeak.com/`jimc/mog/mogdirt.html Very picturesque, and uses 2 sheets of plywood per unit length of pitched gable roof. It's about 9' wide, and as long as you want to make it. This particular one holds about 10 cords, stacked floor to ceiling end to end. Poles cut from the property, concrete pillar blocks, plywood, and 3-tab roofing. Spike nails hold it all together. It's been going great for 10 years or so already. Man, I just looked that record over, and it's reading like something out of Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas Special (on SNL). How to build a woodshed in only sixteen easy steps... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
You can usually buy a kit type building from places like Lowe's as well. Might be better if you don't have much experience building things. If you have good access to the yard, then consider buying one ready built. Around here, one can have a shed hauled in and dropped off by a company that makes them up. Several styles and not much more expensive. If I could get one in past my garage, that is what I would do. I have one of the metal sheds that one bolts together but I truly dislike it and keep thinking I should replace it. It is too short and it is easy to bang one's head. It is not stout enough to attach shelving and thus store lots of smaller stuff off the floor and above the bigger stuff. Lowe's in Grand Forks ND had a display model that I lusted after. Looks like a barn with the hip roof and was 10 or 12 feet square and about that tall with a sort of loft accross the back half. I could store lots of stuff in that. RB On 23/12/2014 10:38 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Have at it ROFLMAO On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go for 10x16 and you can use standard lumber lengths and plywood sheets with minimal cutting. Go to Lowes there are a bunch of books on buidling sheds and such that will have some basic plans. Or just have at it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Make it at least 18 feet long should you have to store a car in there at some time:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
I think you mean: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/Mog/Mogdirt.html If we lived onsite I might need something that big, mine will be similar but much more simple. It'll be a single slope roof, 8' tall at one side, 6' at the other. It'll start out narrow with the option to widen if we need more space should my parents start spending a lot more time at camp in their retirement years. If the latter happens we'll probably need a powered splitter too. I'm going to use tin roofing, it'll be more expensive upfront but I shouldn't need to replace it in my lifetime. 3 tab lasts about 20 years here... I can process by hand from tree a cord of poplar and spruce in about two days. For the last 11 years we've been using about a half cord a year so its been no problem other than we've never had more than a cord of stacking space so I could never really get ahead of it. Like you I've got plenty of dead trees to harvest, just need some place to keep 'em where they won't rot. -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:45 AM Subject: Sheds I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. There is always the design we used: http://formicapeak.com/`jimc/mog/mogdirt.html Very picturesque, and uses 2 sheets of plywood per unit length of pitched gable roof. It's about 9' wide, and as long as you want to make it. This particular one holds about 10 cords, stacked floor to ceiling end to end. Poles cut from the property, concrete pillar blocks, plywood, and 3-tab roofing. Spike nails hold it all together. It's been going great for 10 years or so already. Man, I just looked that record over, and it's reading like something out of Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas Special (on SNL). How to build a woodshed in only sixteen easy steps... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Amen, and, as I've said many times before: It all starts at home with a liberal dose of integrity - the ability to do what is right when nobody else is watching. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. As I see, it has stimulated a great deal of comment about education, the quality of education, the quality of students, and education in general. This group in particular, perhaps more than most, has devoted years of their lives to the pursuit of education, kudos to all who have. Perhaps our backgrounds share many factors, most all coming from the past century. One factor which I find missing in the current generation, and the one before that, is not the lack of information, nor the availability of information. We are now flooded with data and information. What I find, on a daily basis, is the lack of ability to apply information using the principles of logic and moral character which our generation seemed to be given from birth. While our education system has grown to gargantuan proportions. We have given degrees of teaching to numbers of teachers unheard of ever in the past. Yet, we, as a society, send students to those teachers, who are not equipped with the basics of logic, decision making, and moral character, [which we all were given at home, I believe.] and supply said students with 12 yrs of state mandated attendance to school while never imparting the underlying principle of Make something of yourself or fail and die. Thus ensuring the successful continuation of the rather fragile specie, man. Your success in gaining education is a beautiful example of how America became successful. One individual, overcame obstacles, applied effort, gained education, then put it to use, using those same skills of overcoming obstacles which were used to gain the education. That example alone outlines the history of mankind when he has become civilized and successful in endeavors, large and small. I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK Don wrote: Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung-hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 Randy Bennell wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB G: Apparently Oxford, Cambridge, Trinity (Ireland), and a few other colleges in Canada and India are still practicing a form of apprenticeship. The student meets with his Don periodically and is questioned/advised on what he has learned from reading and lectures, which he could attend or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_don Years ago a study was done which determined
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Make it 12 X 14 - 10 X 14 gets narrow mighty fast. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Nit-picker? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM I am a serial nit picker who also commits typoes by the bushel load. Or do I mean typos? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A good teacher can spark a fire that will burn intensely. A bad one can snuff out that spark. RB On 22/12/2014 10:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Wholeheartedly agreed, Don. My personal experience is the best example I know. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM Education is the providence of the student. If a student wants to learn, no bad teacher is going to stop them. If they don't even the best teacher will not make a difference. The teacher is just there to assist the student in his/her journey. Paraphrased from my Grandfather, a professor at the University of Minnesota. http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php?option=com_ contentview=articleid=6149:arthur-t-henrici-an-unsung- hero-of-microbiologyItemid=1421 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do think that the old fashioned apprenticeship was likely a better form of education than most of our highschools and universities provide today. Sadly, just having the diploma does not mean that you learned much or even that they tried to teach you much. RB -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
I think you mean: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/Mog/Mogdirt.html Yeah, that! (I forgot about the weird casing problem on paste that my particular flow [Chicken] has.) It'll be a single slope roof, 8' tall at one side, 6' at the other. I like the weatherproofing that comes from the large overhangs on the gable roof construction. No side walls that way. I'm going to use tin roofing, it'll be more expensive upfront but I shouldn't need to replace it in my lifetime. 3 tab lasts about 20 years here... That was my plan, but insufficient care taken on the raftering made that impractical. So it was on to Plan B... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
It is not stout enough to attach shelving and thus store lots of smaller stuff off the floor and above the bigger stuff. I built free-standing shelving inside mine, out of scrap pallet lumber. It's essentially now what is holding the whole flimsy thing up! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? On that system, the actual controller is separate from the pushbutton module. Every PBU I've had has had problems, but I've never had a controller go bad. The PBU just selects functions, and gates the signals for the mode you are in. The later systems, without the translucent Auto speed button bar, are entirely integrated into the PBU. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
The large overhang is why it'll be a 6.5' (actually now I'm thinking 6') footprint with 8' roofing. Now that I'm thinking about it I'm also thinking I might go 12' wide. My original footprint was 8x8 which is 64ft2 which tightly packed to 4' would give me 2 cords. 12x6' is 72ft2 which loosely stacked (drying shed remember) will give me about the same. Of course in the shed I can stack higher too. I don't plan to do solid walls, maybe skeletons to hold the wood in and make for easier stacking... Dad thinks I'm crazy to use posts cut onsite, just buy 4x4s he says but we have a bazillion 8 diameter spruce trees that are crowding each other or the road or paths and they like to die and fall across places we don't want them... -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Sheds I think you mean: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/Mog/Mogdirt.html Yeah, that! (I forgot about the weird casing problem on paste that my particular flow [Chicken] has.) It'll be a single slope roof, 8' tall at one side, 6' at the other. I like the weatherproofing that comes from the large overhangs on the gable roof construction. No side walls that way. I'm going to use tin roofing, it'll be more expensive upfront but I shouldn't need to replace it in my lifetime. 3 tab lasts about 20 years here... That was my plan, but insufficient care taken on the raftering made that impractical. So it was on to Plan B... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
So will this give you two sheds? Dan Two sheds Jackson Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The large overhang is why it'll be a 6.5' (actually now I'm thinking 6') footprint with 8' roofing. Now that I'm thinking about it I'm also thinking I might go 12' wide. My original footprint was 8x8 which is 64ft2 which tightly packed to 4' would give me 2 cords. 12x6' is 72ft2 which loosely stacked (drying shed remember) will give me about the same. Of course in the shed I can stack higher too. I don't plan to do solid walls, maybe skeletons to hold the wood in and make for easier stacking... Dad thinks I'm crazy to use posts cut onsite, just buy 4x4s he says but we have a bazillion 8 diameter spruce trees that are crowding each other or the road or paths and they like to die and fall across places we don't want them... -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Sheds I think you mean: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/Mog/Mogdirt.html Yeah, that! (I forgot about the weird casing problem on paste that my particular flow [Chicken] has.) It'll be a single slope roof, 8' tall at one side, 6' at the other. I like the weatherproofing that comes from the large overhangs on the gable roof construction. No side walls that way. I'm going to use tin roofing, it'll be more expensive upfront but I shouldn't need to replace it in my lifetime. 3 tab lasts about 20 years here... That was my plan, but insufficient care taken on the raftering made that impractical. So it was on to Plan B... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. As I see, it has stimulated a great deal of comment about education, the quality of education, the quality of students, and education in general. This group in particular, perhaps more than most, has devoted years of their lives to the pursuit of education, kudos to all who have. Perhaps our backgrounds share many factors, most all coming from the past century. One factor which I find missing in the current generation, and the one before that, is not the lack of information, nor the availability of information. We are now flooded with data and information. What I find, on a daily basis, is the lack of ability to apply information using the principles of logic and moral character which our generation seemed to be given from birth. While our education system has grown to gargantuan proportions. We have given degrees of teaching to numbers of teachers unheard of ever in the past. Yet, we, as a society, send students to those teachers, who are not equipped with the basics of logic, decision making, and moral character, [which we all were given at home, I believe.] and supply said students with 12 yrs of state mandated attendance to school while never imparting the underlying principle of Make something of yourself or fail and die. Thus ensuring the successful continuation of the rather fragile specie, man. Your success in gaining education is a beautiful example of how America became successful. One individual, overcame obstacles, applied effort, gained education, then put it to use, using those same skills of overcoming obstacles which were used to gain the education. That example alone outlines the history of mankind when he has become civilized and successful in endeavors, large and small. I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... Amen. Well said! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
2x4s and OSB. Add shingles and paint. All you need to decide is roof pitch or if you want a gambrel, and size, shape and construction of the doors. Mine has 12' sidewalls so I have a 1/2 story on top (5') for storing MB parts high and dry and sorted. Center cut out facing the doors. I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
I'd add to make sure your roof overhangs the walls by 3-6. I failed to do that on our shower house and as a result I need to remake the roof to the correct size and reside one wall that stayed wet for 2 years... It was a learning experience. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties 2x4s and OSB. Add shingles and paint. All you need to decide is roof pitch or if you want a gambrel, and size, shape and construction of the doors. Mine has 12' sidewalls so I have a 1/2 story on top (5') for storing MB parts high and dry and sorted. Center cut out facing the doors. I need to build a 10X14 back yard shed on a slab. What's the best building plan? This is for storage only. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About 10 years ago we had a garage built at camp. I don't remember the actual dimensions but its a car and a half wide and deep. Its now pretty much full with the Super M, 2 lawn tractors a swamp buggy and a small workbench. We'd like to have a little loader tractor so we're talking pretty seriously about another building, probably the same size which would allow me to keep a snowmobile or two up there as well. Actually Dad brought up the idea of building ANOTHER bunkhouse. About 5 years ago he had a 10x12 added onto the side of the camp that has 4 bunks in it but it really should have been 12x14 since you get 3 hunters in there and theres nowhere to put anything so one bottom bunk is just storage. Now he wants to build another 10x12 next door for added sleeping space. Its a sickness... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties You need a big shed to put them all in. That will be the SWMBA happiness solution! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing
OK, this laptop isn't THAT old - it is a Core 2 Duo at 2.13 GHz, 4GB ram, 64 bit, with a new 120 GB SSD. I'm thinking a real video editing package on the desktop (it has 8 GB RAM) on Windows, and a Linux open source (Ubuntu ?) on the laptop, and see which I like best. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Okay this one made me laugh... Though I agree with Greg my first professional editing system after college was a Panasonic Postbox which was based on a 486. I managed to blow that up through a tragic serial mouse incident and it was rebuilt with a Pentium 200Mhz. It was a pretty quick editor for its day although severely limited in the effects department.The first computer based editor I ever used was Avid (my current employer) Media Composer on a Mac Quadra 950 which Wikipedia tells me ran a 6040 processor at 33mhz, max RAM was 256MB. Of course at that time Media Composer cost a minimum of $50,000 and came with a couple big cards that did the real heavy lifting. It was heaven coming from linear tape editing to the Quadra even if it did crash with frightening regularity. For editing now I have Media Composer on an older HP xw8600 and another copy on my Retina Macbook. For all the power in my Macbook the HP edits better, its hard to compete with 2 quad core processors and a real fullsize video card in a case that can vent the heat. My 24 monitor is way easier to use than the 15 laptop and a trackball gives more precision than a touchpad can. I got my copy of Media Composer through my employer but even if you had to pay retail its under a grand and we now do subscription. For most people its waaay overkill and would be dizzyingly hard to use. As for Linux video editing I was going to say don't bother but the last time I played with it was nearly 10 years ago and things have of course changed. I found: Build A Serious Multimedia Production Workstation With Arch Linux | Linux.com which looks promising. If I weren't trying to re-learn Media Composer (I've learned 4 other editors in the last 15 years, its hard to go back) I'd probably look that way. BTW RAM is king in video editing, my 8600 came to me with 4GB and ran pretty good with WinXP. Last summer I bought an SSD for boot and put Win7 on. It worked adequately but really woke up when I upped it to 10GB. When we mothball some more machines at work it'll go to 16GB or more... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'OK Don' okd...@gmail.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing ...on an older laptop. I would be reluctant to do any video editing on less than a core 2 duo @ around 2GHz with 3 or more Gb of RAM. Greg -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
When I lived up in BC we had a cedar mill not too far from us. They sold kits for various things including sheds. Periodically they had very good sales and we bought a shed kit from them and paid a local guy to build it. Although I would have enjoyed doing the work myself, my day job schedule just did not permit it. It looked great and stayed dry. It was all milled cedar and shingles for the roof. IIRC it was just a little bigger than what you have in mind. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:45 AM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sheds I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing with an overhang. There is always the design we used: http://formicapeak.com/`jimc/mog/mogdirt.html Very picturesque, and uses 2 sheets of plywood per unit length of pitched gable roof. It's about 9' wide, and as long as you want to make it. This particular one holds about 10 cords, stacked floor to ceiling end to end. Poles cut from the property, concrete pillar blocks, plywood, and 3-tab roofing. Spike nails hold it all together. It's been going great for 10 years or so already. Man, I just looked that record over, and it's reading like something out of Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas Special (on SNL). How to build a woodshed in only sixteen easy steps... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing
A few years back I bought SONY movie studio 10 including Sound Forge for about $50 IIRC. It has a lot of capability. I have not really tapped many of its features. I am sure it can do the things you want. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:49 AM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing OK, this laptop isn't THAT old - it is a Core 2 Duo at 2.13 GHz, 4GB ram, 64 bit, with a new 120 GB SSD. I'm thinking a real video editing package on the desktop (it has 8 GB RAM) on Windows, and a Linux open source (Ubuntu ?) on the laptop, and see which I like best. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Okay this one made me laugh... Though I agree with Greg my first professional editing system after college was a Panasonic Postbox which was based on a 486. I managed to blow that up through a tragic serial mouse incident and it was rebuilt with a Pentium 200Mhz. It was a pretty quick editor for its day although severely limited in the effects department.The first computer based editor I ever used was Avid (my current employer) Media Composer on a Mac Quadra 950 which Wikipedia tells me ran a 6040 processor at 33mhz, max RAM was 256MB. Of course at that time Media Composer cost a minimum of $50,000 and came with a couple big cards that did the real heavy lifting. It was heaven coming from linear tape editing to the Quadra even if it did crash with frightening regularity. For editing now I have Media Composer on an older HP xw8600 and another copy on my Retina Macbook. For all the power in my Macbook the HP edits better, its hard to compete with 2 quad core processors and a real fullsize video card in a case that can vent the heat. My 24 monitor is way easier to use than the 15 laptop and a trackball gives more precision than a touchpad can. I got my copy of Media Composer through my employer but even if you had to pay retail its under a grand and we now do subscription. For most people its waaay overkill and would be dizzyingly hard to use. As for Linux video editing I was going to say don't bother but the last time I played with it was nearly 10 years ago and things have of course changed. I found: Build A Serious Multimedia Production Workstation With Arch Linux | Linux.com which looks promising. If I weren't trying to re-learn Media Composer (I've learned 4 other editors in the last 15 years, its hard to go back) I'd probably look that way. BTW RAM is king in video editing, my 8600 came to me with 4GB and ran pretty good with WinXP. Last summer I bought an SSD for boot and put Win7 on. It worked adequately but really woke up when I upped it to 10GB. When we mothball some more machines at work it'll go to 16GB or more... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'OK Don' okd...@gmail.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing ...on an older laptop. I would be reluctant to do any video editing on less than a core 2 duo @ around 2GHz with 3 or more Gb of RAM. Greg -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
I was doing great unti l got to the last four words. If only the sentence ended with right. *It all starts at home with a liberal dose of integrity - the ability to do what is right when nobody else is watching.* On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. As I see, it has stimulated a great deal of comment about education, the quality of education, the quality of students, and education in general. This group in particular, perhaps more than most, has devoted years of their lives to the pursuit of education, kudos to all who have. Perhaps our backgrounds share many factors, most all coming from the past century. One factor which I find missing in the current generation, and the one before that, is not the lack of information, nor the availability of information. We are now flooded with data and information. What I find, on a daily basis, is the lack of ability to apply information using the principles of logic and moral character which our generation seemed to be given from birth. While our education system has grown to gargantuan proportions. We have given degrees of teaching to numbers of teachers unheard of ever in the past. Yet, we, as a society, send students to those teachers, who are not equipped with the basics of logic, decision making, and moral character, [which we all were given at home, I believe.] and supply said students with 12 yrs of state mandated attendance to school while never imparting the underlying principle of Make something of yourself or fail and die. Thus ensuring the successful continuation of the rather fragile specie, man. Your success in gaining education is a beautiful example of how America became successful. One individual, overcame obstacles, applied effort, gained education, then put it to use, using those same skills of overcoming obstacles which were used to gain the education. That example alone outlines the history of mankind when he has become civilized and successful in endeavors, large and small. I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... Amen. Well said! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
On 23/12/2014 10:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Wilton, first of all, thank you for the well written story of a slice of your formative life. . . . . I will close with an example of my own. Over the past year, I had need for 6 new employees. All positions required mature, educated people. The applications flooded in, this is a rather desperate job market presently, so the interview process began. Every applicant had a degree, every applicant had some experience in business. However, after wading through piles of Resume` and application letters, I found so many errors in syntax and grammar that it was frankly embarrassing. I reached a point where, at first interview, I would hand the application back to the decreed and experienced individual after having used an editors red pencil to mark errors in syntax, spelling, logic, and fact which were to obvious to ignore.. then discuss why the position was one which required exacting detail in communication and their rather obvious shortcoming in filling those requirements. [The positions required the preparation of complex federal court documents, no errors allowed]. This experience taught me that after 16 to 20 years of education, these some 200+ individuals had failed to grasp the principles of business, the principle of attention to detail, and the principle that if you don't do something the right way, you will be rejected and fail. It appears to me, the focus in schools at all levels has overlooked the development of such moral character while focusing on volume information [some of which is not based on solid fact]. Respectfully, Grant... I have edited the above a bit to remove some of it. I want to concentrate on the final bit starting with This experiences . . . When my sons were in grade school (they are now 26 and 30) the school policy was not to nit-pick about things like spelling and puntuation. They were told to get their ideas on paper and to worry about those sorts of details later. The teachers thought that the students would pick up that sort of thing on their own over time. They were to learn that part on their own. The result is that my younger son still does not write all that well despite the fact that he speaks well. My elder son is better but he has a Master's degree so one might expect him to have gained somewhat over time. I don't think that the folks who turned in substandard resumes were necessarily folks who were unable to grasp business principles or lacked attention to detail. They were just people who were focused on something different than you were. For those of us who are a bit older and schooled in the time when spelling and grammer and punctuation were expected to be reasonably correct, these people look like they either do not care or are terribly sloppy about their work. You might have found that they were brighter than the ones that provided perfect resumes. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
4x4's are easier. Poles are cheaper, if you have the time, and are _way_ cooler. Also a lot stronger. Our large overhang makes the drip line under most conditions _below_ the pillar blocks, down on the side of the rock wall. The wood can get wet, under heavy winds with rain, but those days are pretty rare indeed. Make it bigger than you think you'll need. You'll still be wrong, but maybe it won't be so bad! Our stacks go to the roof, maybe 12' up there at the peak. I use crib poles to stabilize things, lashed to the structure. I don't like it, but it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
My minor is English expository writing which is basically novel writing. The idea Randy mentions below is something we learned right off, get it on paper, then worry about structure. So you do 1 or 2 classes about getting your ideas out. Then you do 1 or 2 classes with the grammar nazis getting you to FIX what you started. Sounds like your son never got the second part. Actually since I didn't plan the minor very well I did it in reverse order so I tend to have a hard time getting thoughts onto paper because I worry about the structure while I'm writing which blows the creative part of the process. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM When my sons were in grade school (they are now 26 and 30) the school policy was not to nit-pick about things like spelling and puntuation. They were told to get their ideas on paper and to worry about those sorts of details later. The teachers thought that the students would pick up that sort of thing on their own over time. They were to learn that part on their own. The result is that my younger son still does not write all that well despite the fact that he speaks well. My elder son is better but he has a Master's degree so one might expect him to have gained somewhat over time. I don't think that the folks who turned in substandard resumes were necessarily folks who were unable to grasp business principles or lacked attention to detail. They were just people who were focused on something different than you were. For those of us who are a bit older and schooled in the time when spelling and grammer and punctuation were expected to be reasonably correct, these people look like they either do not care or are terribly sloppy about their work. You might have found that they were brighter than the ones that provided perfect resumes. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
I figure we haven't had it for the last 10 years so theres no real rush.Originally I was just going to use poles for the posts with castle blocks (those concrete things cast to hold a 4x4) at the bottom. Now I'm thinking I might find some slightly smaller trees )6 instead of 8) for the top plate, dunno what its really called, the piece between posts. We'll see what time allows. -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds 4x4's are easier. Poles are cheaper, if you have the time, and are _way_ cooler. Also a lot stronger. Our large overhang makes the drip line under most conditions _below_ the pillar blocks, down on the side of the rock wall. The wood can get wet, under heavy winds with rain, but those days are pretty rare indeed. Make it bigger than you think you'll need. You'll still be wrong, but maybe it won't be so bad! Our stacks go to the roof, maybe 12' up there at the peak. I use crib poles to stabilize things, lashed to the structure. I don't like it, but it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
That's a very reasonable hypothesis. Stream of consciousness first, grammar later. Does anybody ever read Dave Barry? He writes with great hilarity, but his grammar and syntax are always spot on. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My minor is English expository writing which is basically novel writing. The idea Randy mentions below is something we learned right off, get it on paper, then worry about structure. So you do 1 or 2 classes about getting your ideas out. Then you do 1 or 2 classes with the grammar nazis getting you to FIX what you started. Sounds like your son never got the second part. Actually since I didn't plan the minor very well I did it in reverse order so I tend to have a hard time getting thoughts onto paper because I worry about the structure while I'm writing which blows the creative part of the process. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM When my sons were in grade school (they are now 26 and 30) the school policy was not to nit-pick about things like spelling and puntuation. They were told to get their ideas on paper and to worry about those sorts of details later. The teachers thought that the students would pick up that sort of thing on their own over time. They were to learn that part on their own. The result is that my younger son still does not write all that well despite the fact that he speaks well. My elder son is better but he has a Master's degree so one might expect him to have gained somewhat over time. I don't think that the folks who turned in substandard resumes were necessarily folks who were unable to grasp business principles or lacked attention to detail. They were just people who were focused on something different than you were. For those of us who are a bit older and schooled in the time when spelling and grammer and punctuation were expected to be reasonably correct, these people look like they either do not care or are terribly sloppy about their work. You might have found that they were brighter than the ones that provided perfect resumes. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
How do I trouble shoot the aux. water pump, Dan? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
I think being well read has a lot to do with this as well. I have always been a closet proofreader, often letting spelling or grammar prevent me from reading or comprehending something I'm looking at. While I had the usual public school education of the 60s and 70s, I would attribute my near obsessive behavior regarding spelling and grammar to the voluminous reading I did as a child and teenager. If you're exposed to the proper usage and spelling, you're probably more likely to get it right when it comes to application, I think. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My minor is English expository writing which is basically novel writing. The idea Randy mentions below is something we learned right off, get it on paper, then worry about structure. So you do 1 or 2 classes about getting your ideas out. Then you do 1 or 2 classes with the grammar nazis getting you to FIX what you started. Sounds like your son never got the second part. Actually since I didn't plan the minor very well I did it in reverse order so I tend to have a hard time getting thoughts onto paper because I worry about the structure while I'm writing which blows the creative part of the process. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Two choices: The easy way - disconnect the harness and apply 12VDC to the pump terminals. They're pretty small as I recall, so you may need some jumper clips to do it. You'll hear the pump whirring if it's working. If not, it's dead, Jim. The tough way - remove it from the hoses (capping or plugging them off) and take to the bench. Try to power it up there, or just disassemble and check for the pump or motor being seized. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I trouble shoot the aux. water pump, Dan? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
I think you are right about that. I always read a lot as a younger person. I don't read as much now as I once did. I don't have time during the day and I usually cannot stay awake long enough to read very much when I go to bed. My elder son is a reader. My younger son is not. That might be one of the reasons why the elder one has picked up the spelling and grammer etc while the younger has not done so quite as well. RB On 23/12/2014 3:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I think being well read has a lot to do with this as well. I have always been a closet proofreader, often letting spelling or grammar prevent me from reading or comprehending something I'm looking at. While I had the usual public school education of the 60s and 70s, I would attribute my near obsessive behavior regarding spelling and grammar to the voluminous reading I did as a child and teenager. If you're exposed to the proper usage and spelling, you're probably more likely to get it right when it comes to application, I think. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My minor is English expository writing which is basically novel writing. The idea Randy mentions below is something we learned right off, get it on paper, then worry about structure. So you do 1 or 2 classes about getting your ideas out. Then you do 1 or 2 classes with the grammar nazis getting you to FIX what you started. Sounds like your son never got the second part. Actually since I didn't plan the minor very well I did it in reverse order so I tend to have a hard time getting thoughts onto paper because I worry about the structure while I'm writing which blows the creative part of the process. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Isn't the aux water pump only for heat at idle where the regular water pump doesn't move sufficient volume? Sounds like some testing needs to be done. I'm also curious why my text comes back tiny in your replies but nobody elses... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
One of the laws of Nature: Stuff always goes POOF! to fill the space available. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds 4x4's are easier. Poles are cheaper, if you have the time, and are _way_ cooler. Also a lot stronger. Our large overhang makes the drip line under most conditions _below_ the pillar blocks, down on the side of the rock wall. The wood can get wet, under heavy winds with rain, but those days are pretty rare indeed. Make it bigger than you think you'll need. You'll still be wrong, but maybe it won't be so bad! Our stacks go to the roof, maybe 12' up there at the peak. I use crib poles to stabilize things, lashed to the structure. I don't like it, but it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
Top plate, lintel, beam? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds I figure we haven't had it for the last 10 years so theres no real rush.Originally I was just going to use poles for the posts with castle blocks (those concrete things cast to hold a 4x4) at the bottom. Now I'm thinking I might find some slightly smaller trees )6 instead of 8) for the top plate, dunno what its really called, the piece between posts. We'll see what time allows. -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds 4x4's are easier. Poles are cheaper, if you have the time, and are _way_ cooler. Also a lot stronger. Our large overhang makes the drip line under most conditions _below_ the pillar blocks, down on the side of the rock wall. The wood can get wet, under heavy winds with rain, but those days are pretty rare indeed. Make it bigger than you think you'll need. You'll still be wrong, but maybe it won't be so bad! Our stacks go to the roof, maybe 12' up there at the peak. I use crib poles to stabilize things, lashed to the structure. I don't like it, but it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
I didn’t say it did - it didn’t - it had the dreaded servo. BUT! It DID have a auxiliary water pump. That’s what I was talking about…. Nice of you to stop in. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
Nope but I've watched some of the tiny house stuff on YouTube. I'm interested but it requires a certain lifestyle. I could move to camp and live in 504sqft, our first apartment was only like 650, but life at camp is very different from life at home. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] One for Jaime
Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
Somethin 'bout that car ain't right. Chrome wheel arches, two tone paint within roof channels, squared off lower rear quarters painted black- shoddy rust repair, ugly wood shifter, audiovox radio, incorrect upholstery. That car has been to hell and back. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Small Spaces, was Holiday parties
That size space would be nice as a pied a terre in a nice city, but for me, not a first home. I wouldn't mind having one in NYC (upper west side) and one in Vancouver BC (west end) if I were quite wealthy. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope but I've watched some of the tiny house stuff on YouTube. I'm interested but it requires a certain lifestyle. I could move to camp and live in 504sqft, our first apartment was only like 650, but life at camp is very different from life at home. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties
What I wouldn’t give for a big garage…. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:18 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As long as I have a big garage, I'm happy. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
It’s a little funky, but I was wondering if it might be a Euro? And it’s FI, too! I will say that the M110 is the dealbreaker for me. Never liked or trusted that engine for some reason. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:10 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Somethin 'bout that car ain't right. Chrome wheel arches, two tone paint within roof channels, squared off lower rear quarters painted black- shoddy rust repair, ugly wood shifter, audiovox radio, incorrect upholstery. That car has been to hell and back. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
Really? I thought the 280 I6 was the bees knees in a 107 different engine? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime It’s a little funky, but I was wondering if it might be a Euro? And it’s FI, too! I will say that the M110 is the dealbreaker for me. Never liked or trusted that engine for some reason. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:10 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Somethin 'bout that car ain't right. Chrome wheel arches, two tone paint within roof channels, squared off lower rear quarters painted black- shoddy rust repair, ugly wood shifter, audiovox radio, incorrect upholstery. That car has been to hell and back. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
That’s just a personal opinion with minimal basis from direct experience. I dealt with a couple of cars that had the carbureted version of that engine, and they were just awful. Every one I’ve ever seen leaked like a sieve from the valve cover, too. The FI version of anything would be better, for sure. Those seat covers don’t look original, but then again, could they be Euro velour? Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Really? I thought the 280 I6 was the bees knees in a 107 different engine? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime It’s a little funky, but I was wondering if it might be a Euro? And it’s FI, too! I will say that the M110 is the dealbreaker for me. Never liked or trusted that engine for some reason. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:10 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Somethin 'bout that car ain't right. Chrome wheel arches, two tone paint within roof channels, squared off lower rear quarters painted black- shoddy rust repair, ugly wood shifter, audiovox radio, incorrect upholstery. That car has been to hell and back. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mitch - Jump on this!!
Just what you need, Mitch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
This guys been trying to flip this for a while. I think it was a paid ad on bring a trailer a long time ago. I was critical of it in the comments. While I do buy and sell cars, I add a huge amount of value with correctly done repairs and maintenance. This guy did nearly nothing and wanted to cash in. It didn't sit well with me. He also had another car bought from the same estate. I think it was a W111. I ended up exchanging a few emails with the guy and never heard from him again. I sure hope he didn't bugger up the other car he had. The 280 is over priced and that velour is no good. But the color, of course, is excellent! Jaime On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mitch - Jump on this!!
I kinda want one of these. Kinda. Jaime On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just what you need, Mitch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mitch - Jump on this!!
I like them, too, but they scare me. My first job in the generator business in 1979 was next door to the Rolls “dealer” in Indianapolis (Zionsville) IN. We used to walk over and chat with the mechanic on a regular basis, as he was rarely ever busy. Amazing workmanship, but often poorly engineered systems, or so it seemed. George P. of Leatherique fame is a big Rolls guy if you’re ever looking for opinions or help on one. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I kinda want one of these. Kinda. Jaime On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just what you need, Mitch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
What Dimitri said. Period. Buy URO, MTD, MTC, whatever if you want. They will fail, and soon. Period. Stop whining here. I’ve learned my lesson several times over. Jon On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:44 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: December 23, 2014 at 11:41:29 AM EST To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Buy at classic center. Trust me, the non OE units are garbage. They look identical to OE but they are trash. Jon had three or four Chinese ones fail in a period of few months. One started leaking coolant badly and he almost overheated his engine. You get what you pay for. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the manufacturere of the OEM unit, Dimitri? Where can I get them? Are they made of platinum? In Switzerland? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
What Dimitri was referring to about blowing an engine was a defective Chinese aux pump. The screws that hold the whole thing together would not stay tight, which resulted in coolant spraying directly into the alternator. The first time I noticed it was a rapidly rising and falling coolant temp whilst driving on Lake Shore Drive in downtown Chicago on the Sunday following Thanksgiving. It steadied out only to have it happen again on the Chicago Skyway into Indiana. Steadied out again, and finally figured it out in Knox, IN. Luckily, the auto zone was open, so I had a ready supply of Xerox. Tightened the screws, and they lasted until Buffalo. By this time, SWMBO was quite unhappy with the multiple stops and uneven heating of the passenger compartment. The monovalve was causing the extreme hot/extreme cold heating, but it was the aux pump (cheap, Chinese piece of s***) that was causing the coolant loss and overheats. My advice….for the last time…..buy OE. Jon On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn’t say it did - it didn’t - it had the dreaded servo. BUT! It DID have a auxiliary water pump. That’s what I was talking about…. Nice of you to stop in. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of
Re: [MBZ] Sheds
Lintels and beams? Makes a great soup. Sorry - couldn't resist. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Top plate, lintel, beam? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds I figure we haven't had it for the last 10 years so theres no real rush.Originally I was just going to use poles for the posts with castle blocks (those concrete things cast to hold a 4x4) at the bottom. Now I'm thinking I might find some slightly smaller trees )6 instead of 8) for the top plate, dunno what its really called, the piece between posts. We'll see what time allows. -Curt From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds 4x4's are easier. Poles are cheaper, if you have the time, and are _way_ cooler. Also a lot stronger. Our large overhang makes the drip line under most conditions _below_ the pillar blocks, down on the side of the rock wall. The wood can get wet, under heavy winds with rain, but those days are pretty rare indeed. Make it bigger than you think you'll need. You'll still be wrong, but maybe it won't be so bad! Our stacks go to the roof, maybe 12' up there at the peak. I use crib poles to stabilize things, lashed to the structure. I don't like it, but it works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] One for Jaime
Can't be certain if the seat covers are from Target, but they sure as heck ain't OEM velour. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This guys been trying to flip this for a while. I think it was a paid ad on bring a trailer a long time ago. I was critical of it in the comments. While I do buy and sell cars, I add a huge amount of value with correctly done repairs and maintenance. This guy did nearly nothing and wanted to cash in. It didn't sit well with me. He also had another car bought from the same estate. I think it was a W111. I ended up exchanging a few emails with the guy and never heard from him again. I sure hope he didn't bugger up the other car he had. The 280 is over priced and that velour is no good. But the color, of course, is excellent! Jaime On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not that you don’t already have your hands(garage) full, but it is green…. AND it has a sunroof! Not many coupes with sunroofs….. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4776017473.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mitch - Jump on this!!
Drool worthy, but I would insist on an itemized price list for all those repairs to find out what it would cost to make everything work. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I like them, too, but they scare me. My first job in the generator business in 1979 was next door to the Rolls “dealer” in Indianapolis (Zionsville) IN. We used to walk over and chat with the mechanic on a regular basis, as he was rarely ever busy. Amazing workmanship, but often poorly engineered systems, or so it seemed. George P. of Leatherique fame is a big Rolls guy if you’re ever looking for opinions or help on one. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I kinda want one of these. Kinda. Jaime On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just what you need, Mitch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Silver-Shadow-chrome-1973-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-white-4-door-sedan-/111556727321?forcerrptr=truehash=item19f94c9219item=111556727321pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Whom are you lecturing to? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What Dimitri said. Period. Buy URO, MTD, MTC, whatever if you want. They will fail, and soon. Period. Stop whining here. I’ve learned my lesson several times over. Jon On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:44 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: December 23, 2014 at 11:41:29 AM EST To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Buy at classic center. Trust me, the non OE units are garbage. They look identical to OE but they are trash. Jon had three or four Chinese ones fail in a period of few months. One started leaking coolant badly and he almost overheated his engine. You get what you pay for. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the manufacturere of the OEM unit, Dimitri? Where can I get them? Are they made of platinum? In Switzerland? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
When my sons were in grade school (they are now 26 and 30) the school policy was not to nit-pick about things like spelling and puntuation. They were told to get their ideas on paper and to worry about those sorts of details later. The teachers thought that the students would pick up that sort of thing on their own over time. They were to learn that part on their own. The result is that my younger son still does not write all that well despite the fact that he speaks well. My elder son is better but he has a Master's degree so one might expect him to have gained somewhat over time. I don't think that the folks who turned in substandard resumes were necessarily folks who were unable to grasp business principles or lacked attention to detail. They were just people who were focused on something different than you were. For those of us who are a bit older and schooled in the time when spelling and grammer and punctuation were expected to be reasonably correct, these people look like they either do not care or are terribly sloppy about their work. You might have found that they were brighter than the ones that provided perfect resumes. RB They tried that bullhockey on our kids too. We sat our son down and made him learn to write and spell correctly, because even though the school claimed it doesn't matter, in the real world, it DOES matter. Their teachers claim spelling didn't matter there, but they're wrong. (3 different words, but they sound the same.) We sat my son down and made him learn to do it right. he had a tough time, it did not come easily to him, but he was not resistant. When he was in 5th grade, he got a used Amiga 500 computer, and its software had a real time spellcheck. That is old hat now, but it helped him considerably because it highlighted misspelled words, and then he could SEE the correct spelling. For my daughter, it came easier. My son now has two tough Ph.D.s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
