Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Who is using ProfBooth@gmail?

Sacrilege! Ban them, ban them!
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On August 15, 2015 11:57:03 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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  Curly wrote:
 
  Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
  email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
  security  problem.

 Kaleb wrote:
 
 What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the
 email addresses listed in the postings.

Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each
message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers.
There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com.
Now there is one for what looks like every member of the
list.  This is in each and every post.

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Re: [MBZ] heat

2015-08-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday,  115 yesterday. Today should be
about the same. Ugh.
I'm tired of these summers.  I have to start thinking about where I want to
spend summers when I retire.

Bob R
On Aug 15, 2015 4:14 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Southern Indiana

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

Jaime

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 That one is carbureted though (280S) wouldn't that make it less desirable?
 -Curt


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 Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially
 better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8.  (but not as
 desirable as an OM 603!)

 6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9!



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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That one is carbureted though (280S) wouldn't that make it less desirable?
-Curt


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Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially 
better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8.  (but not as 
desirable as an OM 603!)

6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9!



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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, the W116 280S is one of the LEAST desirable Mercedes ever built.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

 Jaime

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
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  That one is carbureted though (280S) wouldn't that make it less
 desirable?
  -Curt
 
 
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  Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially
  better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8.  (but not as
  desirable as an OM 603!)
 
  6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9!
 
 
 
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[MBZ] OT: Are you smarter than a 1912 8th grader?

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Here's a test given in 1912 to 8th grade students.  Lots of luck.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/13/1230894/-Most-Adults-Would-Likely-Fail-This-1912-8th-Grade-Test-Try-It-VIDEO?detail=emailclassic
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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I CAN SEE HILLARY!'S EMAILS!!

--R



On 8/15/15 11:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
security  problem.

Kaleb wrote:

What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the
email addresses listed in the postings.

Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each
message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers.
There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com.
Now there is one for what looks like every member of the
list.  This is in each and every post.

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Re: [MBZ] heat

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I drove through Phoenix in 1980 at night -- 98 F and 60% RH, a real  
sweatbox.


In the old days, before urbanization, Phoenix was dry.  Not any more.   
Flagstaff is still dry, I think.  It was when I was there.  Probably  
not so much this summer with all the rain.


A friend of mine has his first vegetable garden this year and wanted  
to know how to make sun-dried tomatoes -- I told him he needed to move  
to Arizona.  The heat and dry air (outside urban areas, anyway) will  
dehydrate things like peppers and tomatoes in a day or two.  Here they  
will rot instead.


We are in that time of year where the RH goes over 100% at night,  
patchy to dense fogs and the grass is soaking wet until noon so I  
can't mow when it's cool out.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What? Mercedes made a sorry engine??? A carbureted engine should be
relatively easy to modify, remove the smog controls, get the power back,
etc. Install a couple of Webers, or a Holley . . .
Of course, replacing the engine with an OM603 would be best!

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

 Jaime




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[MBZ] OT This thing looks kinda interesting

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Looks like some sort of Apple device embedded in the rcvr, you can use 
it to throw your ifon apps onto it, kinda like with an AppleTV


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C2KV6176nm_mc=EMC-MP081615cm_mmc=EMC-MP081615-_-EMC-081615-Index-_-index-_-9SIA08C2KV6176

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Re: [MBZ] heat

2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
In a prior life I had to go to Las Vegas fairly often.  On really hot days
you could feel the blacktop move under your feet as you cross the street.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob
 Rentfro via Mercedes
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:08 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] heat
 
 I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday,  115 yesterday. Today should be
about
 the same. Ugh.
 I'm tired of these summers.  I have to start thinking about where I want
to
 spend summers when I retire.
 
 Bob R



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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Folding-fin rockets are notoriously inaccurate.  Unless all fins deploy at
precisely the same time (yeah, right) the non-symmetrical initial fin
configuration will steer the rocket off course.  Definitely the wrong weapon
for this job but I guess that's what was available on no-notice.  All target
aircraft I worked with (1970s and later) had some type of flight termination
system, some of these activated automatically if the command signal was lost
for a sufficient period of time.  When the Japanese attacked Hawaii, almost
all civilian damage on the ground was caused by friendly anti-aircraft
shells.  The older 20mm high explosive bullets armed as they spun from
rifling going as they went down the barrel, and stayed armed.  The newer
20mm HE stuff is only armed while it is still spinning.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:57 AM
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com
 Subject: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale
 
 On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over
 southern California and missed.
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale
 
 http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/pollack0115battleofpalmdale.htm
 
 http://articles.latimes.com/2005/sep/11/local/me-then11
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Another possible home for that Euro M117 5.0 engine?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Wonder what is involved in converting a 110 to fuel injected? Not that I
 would want to. I do have a injected 110 sitting on the shelf in the shop





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

No.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?



I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to paint
the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an 
indoor/outdoor

carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] OT This thing looks kinda interesting

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Looks like some sort of Apple device embedded in the rcvr, you can 
use it to throw your ifon apps onto it, kinda like with an AppleTV


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C2KV6176nm_mc=EMC-MP081615cm_mmc=EMC-MP081615-_-EMC-081615-Index-_-index-_-9SIA08C2KV6176

--R


Looks like Micro$haft and Apple$ products.  Lotsa hype, but nothing 
tells you what it does.


My question:  What will it do for me?

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

Jaime


An OM603 will fix that!

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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Mitch wrote:
 On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat 
over southern

 California and missed.


Drone?
Radio controlled drone?
60 years ago?
...ah... the age of technology.
Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something...
mao


When did Mitch write that?  I have not seen anything.

Actually, they flew RC B-29s through the 1946 atomic explosions at 
Bikini atoll.  (What are now called drones)


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Are you smarter than a 1912 8th grader?

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Here's a test given in 1912 to 8th grade students.  Lots of luck.



Pointing out the miserable failure of the goobermnt skools

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

That one is carbureted though (280S) wouldn't that make it less desirable?
-Curt


Well, like I said, put an OM 603 or a late model Euro twin cam 6 
gasser.  THat late euro engine would be FI.


FOr some, carbs are ok.  I don't like either, but a Euro carb engine 
could work.  Buy some webers.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
You can seal it if you like. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to paint
 the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor
 carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate 
immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint.  Isn't that the 
reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet?


Wilton

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You can seal it if you like.

Sent from my iPhone

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to 
paint
the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an 
indoor/outdoor

carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Current F-14/15/16/18 US fighters have internal 20mm guns plus three types of 
guided air-to-air missiles:  AIM-9 short-range heat-seeking missiles, AIM-7 
long-range semi-active radar-guided missiles, and AMRAAM medium-range 
multi-mode radar/inertial missiles.  There are several variants of each of 
these and each type aircraft has multiple allowable load configurations.  All 
current air-to-air missiles are orders-of magnitude more capable than any 
unguided 2.75 incher.

 -Original Message-
 From: Max  Dillon via Mercedes
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:33 AM
 
 I think all current fighters have both guns and missiles?  I know the F/A-18 
 has
 both.
 


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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
That 4 barrel Solex is a junker.  Even Solex couldn't make it work on  
a Benz engine, they were dogs from A to Z.  Nothing desireable in any  
way, shape or form.


Many were convered to D-jet or K-Jet, vastly easier and much more  
reliable.


Fuel milage was terrible -- the small sedan got 12, the 450 sedan  
probably got worse milage than the 14 or so the 4.5L did.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sounds like the drones were abut as reliable as the rockets they attempted to 
shoot it down with…

Dan

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Mitch wrote:
 On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over 
 southern
 California and missed.
 
 Drone?
 Radio controlled drone?
 60 years ago?
 ...ah... the age of technology.
 Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something...
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Wonder what is involved in converting a 110 to fuel injected? Not that I would 
want to. I do have a injected 110 sitting on the shelf in the shop

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That 4 barrel Solex is a junker.  Even Solex couldn't make it work on a Benz 
 engine, they were dogs from A to Z.  Nothing desireable in any way, shape or 
 form.
 
 Many were convered to D-jet or K-Jet, vastly easier and much more reliable.
 
 Fuel milage was terrible -- the small sedan got 12, the 450 sedan probably 
 got worse milage than the 14 or so the 4.5L did.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Jindivik anyone?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:44:08 -0500
 To: mi...@mitchellhaley.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: maontin@gmail.com
 
 Mitch wrote:
  On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over 
  southern
  California and missed.
 
 Drone?
 Radio controlled drone?
 60 years ago?
 ...ah... the age of technology.
 Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something...
 mao
  
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Find a wrecked AMG and drop something in there

--R


On 8/16/15 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

What? Mercedes made a sorry engine??? A carbureted engine should be
relatively easy to modify, remove the smog controls, get the power back,
etc. Install a couple of Webers, or a Holley . . .
Of course, replacing the engine with an OM603 would be best!

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

Jaime







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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Mitch wrote:
 On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern
 California and missed.

Drone?
Radio controlled drone?
60 years ago?
...ah... the age of technology.
Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: EPA

2015-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Greg wrote:
 What about the deposits remaining at the bottom of the river?  Those may
 persist long after the solubles have flown away.

Which leaves them there for even greater dilution over time.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Zeniths were a pleasure to work with compared to the Solex 4A1.  It is a 
nightmare of a carburetor, guaranteed to run poorly even when working at it’s 
best, and offering really lousy fuel economy.

The M130 in the former W123 LWB had one.  I tore it off and did a Holley 5200 
conversion.  Made the car a real pleasure to drive and I could even get mileage 
numbers in the high teens with it.

Dan


 On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That 4 barrel Solex is a junker.  Even Solex couldn't make it work on a Benz 
 engine, they were dogs from A to Z.  Nothing desireable in any way, shape or 
 form.
 
 Many were convered to D-jet or K-Jet, vastly easier and much more reliable.
 
 Fuel milage was terrible -- the small sedan got 12, the 450 sedan probably 
 got worse milage than the 14 or so the 4.5L did.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
A Holley of any sort would be an improvement.  My buddy Hans had to  
deal with them all the time in Germany, said they were horrible, even  
the factory tech couldn't get them right.


The M110 wasn't bad itself, other than being rather fuel hungry and  
terribly noisy due to solid lifters.  More fiddly that the other  
single overhead cam Benz engines, but robust.  Not a bad engine with  
fuel injection (either D-Jet or K-jet, depending on year).


Terrible mileage in all applications, though, mainly due to the really  
low rear ends (atypically 4.00:1 for gassers).  The M110 spins silly  
fast, but gearing it for 6600 rpm at 125 mph results in horrible fuel  
consumption.  Low teens is typical with the carb, mid teens with FI.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Intake manifold and associated FI parts.  I'd not bother with the D- 
Jet, impossible to find parts by now and that one requires the correct  
distributor, probably like finding hen's teeth forty years after they  
stopped production.


Peter

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[MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to paint
the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor
carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You have to assume He doesn't know what he's doing, which is why he posted
the query.  :).

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and
 evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint.
 Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?



 You can seal it if you like.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to
 paint
 the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an
 indoor/outdoor
 carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?

2015-08-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to
close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete.

Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;))

118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem..

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and
 evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint.
 Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?


 You can seal it if you like.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed.  Do I need to
 paint
 the concrete floor now?  Is this advisable if I'm getting an
 indoor/outdoor
 carpet?
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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 16, 2015 at 2:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Sounds like the drones were abut as reliable as the rockets they attempted to
 shoot it down with…

Imagine if it were a manned, armed MiG taking evasive action on its way to
attack something important. 
That's what those two fighter pilots were on standby for, isn't it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think all current fighters have both guns and missiles?  I know the F/A-18 
has both.

F-4 Phantom was another missiles only fighter, and I think engagements in Mig 
alley convinced fighter designers that missiles are nice, but guns are required.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 17, 2015 12:22:54 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 On August 16, 2015 at 2:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Sounds like the drones were abut as reliable as the rockets they
attempted to
 shoot it down with…

Imagine if it were a manned, armed MiG taking evasive action on its way
to
attack something important. 
That's what those two fighter pilots were on standby for, isn't it?

Mitch.

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