date:20151130

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On Nov 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

> Nice! I have always lusted after the TD. But: "...starts perfectly every
> time..."? Didn't these have Lucas electrical systems?
> 
> Greg
> 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?
> 
> I would much prefer this one, but in Racing Green
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-mg-td/
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 5:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/2015/11/28/ukrainian-beemer-brand-new-1985-dnepr-mb
> 800-w-sidecar/
>> 
>> Right down the street from me, too.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

+1

They are the only classic caliber cars for the 80s and 90s.  The basic W124 is 
plain, even with the souped up 5 liter, it was nothing special.  Put a ragtop 
on, and you get big interest.  The R129 is sort of boring and not sought after 
in the manner of a 220S cab or 600 pullman.  Those are far too expensive to 
acquire, where the 300 cab can be had for small investment.  Much better 
investment than a R107 or W129 will ever become



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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> In my opinion these 124 convertibles will be big money collector cars years 
> down the road.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Cheap enough for a fun summer beater if you get the top working? Offer them 
>> a grand?
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 11/29/15 11:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go wrong 
>>> for $1250?
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Re: [MBZ] Free cars

Kaleb wrote:
> This is Regina, Kaleb's wife.  He electrocuted himself

cute
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

Craig wrote:
> You should see the light dim when you turn the key...

Thanks - will do that also.

> ...jack up the right front wheel, and wiggle...

have not tried that yet but no heat at center and the car rolls very nicely.

where is dash-light glow-light in circuit? and where is fuse in
circuit?  if both are after relay, perhaps fuse?
yeah, check glow but that is work...

thanks
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

The Wang at the U of Mn cost $2250 IIRC.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Curly wrote:
> > I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we were
> > expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of college.
>
> Expected to buy?  I must have done coledg before you.  The public
> calculator at coledg was nixie-tube Wang with large processor under
> the table and was probably hugely expensive.  Post-coledg I remember
> working with a kid and he spent $200 for a 70's HP.  I thought that
> was an obscene dollar amount.
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2015-11-30 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


Thanks; makes sense. My impressions date from when there was no power steering 
and speeds were lower. I do remember the back end wig-wagging when tires 
regularly blew out during WW-2. Rim technology was less advanced then as well 
(narrower rims from which a flat tire could work itself off and go rolling down 
the highway.
Gerry

> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:
> > > 
> > > I thought bad tires belonged on the front?
> > > 
> > > Mitch
> > 
> > We always but them on the rear in case they blew out since it's tricky to
> > steer at speed with a front flat tire. Has that changed?
> > Gerry
> 
> Loss of traction in the front makes it hard to turn. (understeer is a stable
> condition)
> Loss of traction in the rear makes it hard to keep the car pointed where 
> you're
> going. (oversteer is unstable)
> Either way, if you suddenly lose air in a left tire on a cloverleaf, you're
> probably going off road. 
> Just depends on whether you want to look out the windshield or the back window
> to see what you're going to hit. 
> 
> I once watched a woman lose a front wheel at freeway speeds. I was going to 
> pull
> up beside her and try to tell her the wheel was wobbling but she outran me,
> speed limit 55, I was doing 65 and she left me in her dust, then the wheel 
> came
> off within a mile.
> She kept it in a straight line. Every time the brake lights came on there was 
> a
> shower of sparks from the brake disk on the concrete. 
> I'm thinking she would have had a scary case of oversteer if she was driving
> that fast with a missing rear wheel. 
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

> On November 30, 2015 at 7:59 AM Dimitri via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It had a feel of real quality. The way the buttons moved etc...

The desirable HPs today seem to be the early 1980s 10C/11C/12C/15C/16C.
Compact and indestructible. 

I bought a 11C new in 1983 after I lost my 57C. 
In '91 I bought a used 15C for the same $40 I paid for the 11C. 
Don't want to admit what I paid for a 41C. 
Still have the three of them somewhere. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Sold.  Probably a good thing, I really don't need another project car right
now.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

I still have your old Actiontec router, maybe plug that into an uplink port
on your Uverse router and set up the old router wireless for the Mac?

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Re: [MBZ] One for you ChiTown Boys

FInally, a color combination that works for me.  I'd be a buyer if 1) I
lived in IL, and 2) I didn't already own two wagons.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bad SLS accumulators, if it uses them.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out what failure mode would cause "bounces wildly".
> > Probably a failed SLS control valve or failed tandem pump so no pressure
> in
> > the rear hydraulics, combined with dead front struts?  I'm thinking lots
> of
> > $$$ for parts no matter how you slice it.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That would probably be a good deal with a fairly easy fix?
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

I was driving back home from Chapel Liberhill on Saturday, there was a 
tree truck towing a big chipper about 100yd in front of me.  I hear a 
loud explosion then tire bits go flying about 20ft into the air, then 
the remainder of the tire starts smoking, then all that flew off, then 
the fender comes flying off and lands up in front of me, then the rim is 
throwing sparks and flames.  I was going to go around it but there was a 
fair amount of traffic in the left lane coming up behind me so I slowed 
way down and the truck pulled over and I got around it.  I ran over one 
bit of tread, and one that went flying sorta went on by me, and I missed 
the fender that ended up in the road too.  It was an enlivening event on 
an otherwise boring drive.  I'm guessing that was a high-pressure tire, 
it made a good noise when it let go.


--R

On 11/30/15 11:28 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks; makes sense. My impressions date from when there was no power steering 
and speeds were lower. I do remember the back end wig-wagging when tires 
regularly blew out during WW-2. Rim technology was less advanced then as well 
(narrower rims from which a flat tire could work itself off and go rolling down 
the highway.
Gerry


Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:

I thought bad tires belonged on the front?

Mitch

We always but them on the rear in case they blew out since it's tricky to
steer at speed with a front flat tire. Has that changed?
Gerry

Loss of traction in the front makes it hard to turn. (understeer is a stable
condition)
Loss of traction in the rear makes it hard to keep the car pointed where you're
going. (oversteer is unstable)
Either way, if you suddenly lose air in a left tire on a cloverleaf, you're
probably going off road.
Just depends on whether you want to look out the windshield or the back window
to see what you're going to hit.

I once watched a woman lose a front wheel at freeway speeds. I was going to pull
up beside her and try to tell her the wheel was wobbling but she outran me,
speed limit 55, I was doing 65 and she left me in her dust, then the wheel came
off within a mile.
She kept it in a straight line. Every time the brake lights came on there was a
shower of sparks from the brake disk on the concrete.
I'm thinking she would have had a scary case of oversteer if she was driving
that fast with a missing rear wheel.

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Re: [MBZ] One for you ChiTown Boys



> On November 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> That would probably be a good deal with a fairly easy fix?

Either new spheres and fluid do the job, or it can get expensive. 
Fluid is special stuff, Fuchs ZH5364B, Febi 21648, MB 001 989 20 03

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

Hakka what?  Finnish tires??  WTF.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On November 30, 2015 at 1:42 AM "arche...@embarqmail.com"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:12:49 -0500 (EST)
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:
> > >
> > > I thought bad tires belonged on the front?
> > >
> > > Mitch
> >
> > We always but them on the rear in case they blew out since it's tricky to
> > steer at speed with a front flat tire. Has that changed?
> > Gerry
>
> Loss of traction in the front makes it hard to turn. (understeer is a
> stable
> condition)
> Loss of traction in the rear makes it hard to keep the car pointed where
> you're
> going. (oversteer is unstable)
> Either way, if you suddenly lose air in a left tire on a cloverleaf, you're
> probably going off road.
> Just depends on whether you want to look out the windshield or the back
> window
> to see what you're going to hit.
>
> I once watched a woman lose a front wheel at freeway speeds. I was going
> to pull
> up beside her and try to tell her the wheel was wobbling but she outran me,
> speed limit 55, I was doing 65 and she left me in her dust, then the wheel
> came
> off within a mile.
> She kept it in a straight line. Every time the brake lights came on there
> was a
> shower of sparks from the brake disk on the concrete.
> I'm thinking she would have had a scary case of oversteer if she was
> driving
> that fast with a missing rear wheel.
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

I still have my K slide rule - does that count?

>
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Rich sez:

>‎Think about it -- a bunch of guys >in short-sleeved white shirts, >skinny 
>ties, short hair cuts, smoking >cigarettes, and using those slide >rules 
>built the largest most powerful >rockets ever (no failures in the F1 
>engines!) and put men on the >moon.

And designed and built the SR71. 
It's hard to fathom that was fifty plus years ago. Makes me wonder what secret 
stuff they have now...

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

I'd like to think that as well, but somehow I doubt it, unless your idea of
"big" is $20k or so.  I do think they will appreciate in value, unlike the
sedans / wagons and probably the coupes.

Sent a text, no response, going to call during my lunch break.

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In my opinion these 124 convertibles will be big money collector cars
> years down the road.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Uh oh, some benzworld guy is also eyeballing this thing, but he's out of
the country if you can believe his post...

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/2514865-cheap-cabriolet-craigslist-more-often-now.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

Searching the webernets it looks like the problem I am having is not an 
uncommon problem with macs and the ATT Uverse modem I have (Pace 
5031NV).  I have seen a couple of suggestions to change the 
authentication but that didn't work for me.  Seems like some sort of 
incompatibility of the modem and (some) apple stuff for reasons not clear.


   The solution ended being that I logged into the ATT UVerse modem
   (https://192.168.1.254) and changed the wireless Authentication Type
   from "WPA-PSK (TKIP) and WPA2-PSK (AES)" to just "WPA2-PSK (AES)". 
   Once I did that, the MacBook Pro was able to connect fine.  No idea

   if it's that generation's Airport or something in OS X 10.6.8 or
   what, but that fixed it.

I am wondering if I upgrade the OS to El Capitan (I have 10.10.5 now, is 
that new one 10.11?) if there might be some updates in the OS that might 
work better.  There is a security update to this version too, I suppose 
I should load that.  This has become a fairly recent problem too, no 
idea why.


--R





On 11/29/15 11:32 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Try changing the router radio channel, the Mac may like a different frequency?

Which version of the 802.11 WiFi radio does the Mac have?  The other devices?


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Re: [MBZ] 108

I'd be very careful with this one.  One of the top five most BORING color
combinations so very little upsside, plus a series of question marks that
could add up to big buck$ to resolve.

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> Yes.
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

Does a Picket count?  Plus a TI 83 plus?


From: Mercedes  on behalf of OK Don via Mercedes 

Sent: 30 November 2015 15:03
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Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Calculators

I still have my K slide rule - does that count?

>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


Me, too.

Wilton

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I still have my K slide rule - does that count?







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who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Washingtonians?

Nothing wrong with "Washingtonites" for the upstarts who joined the union
way later than we were founded.

"On November 11, 1889, Washington becomes the 42nd state of the United
States of America."

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 12:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Do I get any votes for calling them "Extinct" ?
>
> Seems Mark Twain was correct when he opined "The most dangerous place in
> America is Washington... when Congress is in session"
>
> How about we close this capitol completely, return it to the swamp wetland
> it once was, and hold congress in the state capitols on a rotating basis,
> like the Olympics.
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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>
> > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Since they have all drunk from the Potomac, and suffer from terminal
> >>>  Potomac fever, they should be called Potomakians.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> How about Potomaineans?
> >>
> >> -MMM-
> >>
> >
> > THat works.
> >
> > Or Potomaniacs
> >
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Re: [MBZ] this is the nicest 300SD I have seen in a while

Nice except for the  color.  What does Ebay charge for a photo array like
this one?

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> I need an SDL and possibly a 108, maybe a diesel finny
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 29, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ha!  Posting from the afterlife!Buy it!  You need another car!
> >
> >
> >>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-/151899495221?forcerrptr=true=item235dea5b35:g:xDcAAOSwbdpWUIpj=151899495221
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

My Dad had one of the first TI digital calculators. I had it up 
until a few years ago, I suspect it got discarded in a move.


It was white plastic with the little red pixelated LED digits that 
had a bubble shaped lens over them to make the digits readable. It 
was the size of a small brick and weighed about as much.


It did basic arithmetic operations and nothing else.

I just remember him talking about how expensive it was. This would 
have been in the early 1970s, I think.


Dan


I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we 
were expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of 
college.  I did not have the funds to buy the calculator.


before I graduated, ( about 4-5 yrs later) I bought a TI-30 that did 
all the same engineering/Trig functions for $30.


Getting caught in the transition from slide rules to calculators cost 
me 3 yrs.  I shoulda spent that time in the USAF.  Instead, I spent 
it barely hanging on with $2/hr jobs.


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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

In my opinion these 124 convertibles will be big money collector cars years 
down the road.

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> On Nov 30, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cheap enough for a fun summer beater if you get the top working? Offer them a 
> grand?
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/29/15 11:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go wrong 
>> for $1250?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One for you ChiTown Boys

Bad SLS accumulators, if it uses them.

Dan

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> On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to figure out what failure mode would cause "bounces wildly".
> Probably a failed SLS control valve or failed tandem pump so no pressure in
> the rear hydraulics, combined with dead front struts?  I'm thinking lots of
> $$$ for parts no matter how you slice it.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> 
>> That would probably be a good deal with a fairly easy fix?
>> 
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Free cars

The least we can do is offer a moment of silence.

*

There.  Let's move on now.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> This is Regina, Kaleb's wife.  He electrocuted himself messing with the
>> hot tub so I am giving all his cars away, first come first served.  Lots of
>> junk to get rid of.
>>
>
> Nice try.
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

I have mine, and a little pocket one that was my dad's in college. I 
mostly used the little one as it was "close enough."


Think about it -- a bunch of guys in short-sleeved white shirts, skinny 
ties, short hair cuts, smoking cigarettes, and using those slide rules 
built the largest most powerful rockets ever (no failures in the F1 
engines!) and put men on the moon.


--R

On 11/30/15 10:03 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I still have my K slide rule - does that count?








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Re: [MBZ] One for you ChiTown Boys

I'm trying to figure out what failure mode would cause "bounces wildly".
Probably a failed SLS control valve or failed tandem pump so no pressure in
the rear hydraulics, combined with dead front struts?  I'm thinking lots of
$$$ for parts no matter how you slice it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> That would probably be a good deal with a fairly easy fix?
>
> --R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Just asked the gf to get me one for Xmas!

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> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:06:57 -0500 Dimitri via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators? I had an HP 28S during high
>> school. It broke years ago- fell out of my pocket. I loved that thing.
>> Thinking about replacing it.
> 
> As an official geek, I do have an RPN calculator, an HP-15C, and use it
> regularly. I even have an on-screen Linux RPN calculator to use when I
> have some arithmetic and/or trignometry to do with the computer. I have
> difficulty using an arithmetic calculator.
> 
> Shirley also has an HP-15C and uses it regularly, as well.
> 
> Remember "Enter" > "=" !
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

I have an old Linksys wireless here, I might try that and see about 
shutting off the uverse wifi but I think it might actually be in the 
routing part on the uverse modem, not sure if I can shut off that part 
and use the Linksys as the whole deal.


--R

On 11/30/15 12:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I still have your old Actiontec router, maybe plug that into an uplink port
on your Uverse router and set up the old router wireless for the Mac?

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Yea I'm figured it would not last long

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> 
> Sold.  Probably a good thing, I really don't need another project car right
> now.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon & Mobil1

I've not had any problems with the "bad" M1, it still holds up to 10,000 mile 
oil changes both in my departed '84 190D and the Jetta which only got one 
change of it before I switched to Car Quest 5w40 synthetic which was cheaper. 
In both cases the oil could have gone for longer changes, so its plenty good 
enough...
-Curt
  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amazon & Mobil1
   
It's not Doktor Booth's M1 anymore, see Curly's post from last month or
so.  Group III base stock, not really true synthetic, but they are still
charging you the full price.

Last night I took a look at our local Wallyworld, the only weights for
"Extended Performance" which may still be Group IV base are all for
gassers, nothing in a Xw-40 or Xw-50 weight.

-
Max
Charleston SC



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ordered two 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 on Amazon. $26.52 each, a few pennies
> more than Dead Sam sells it for here. Free shipping.
>
> They sent it UPS Second Day Air.
>
> How can they make money on this??
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:48:15 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I did not think they even put date codes on tires that old.

They did put date codes on tires before 2000, but it's not clear when
they started. Before 2000, the date code is 3 digits.

See http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 23:06:57 -0500 Dimitri via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators? I had an HP 28S during high
> school. It broke years ago- fell out of my pocket. I loved that thing.
> Thinking about replacing it.

As an official geek, I do have an RPN calculator, an HP-15C, and use it
regularly. I even have an on-screen Linux RPN calculator to use when I
have some arithmetic and/or trignometry to do with the computer. I have
difficulty using an arithmetic calculator.

Shirley also has an HP-15C and uses it regularly, as well.

Remember "Enter" > "=" !

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?

I would much prefer this one, but in Racing Green

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-mg-td/

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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> http://bringatrailer.com/2015/11/28/ukrainian-beemer-brand-new-1985-dnepr-mb800-w-sidecar/
> 
> Right down the street from me, too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread ned kleinhenz via Mercedes

My "slip stick" from the olden days is a Dietzgen slide rule.  It's
mahogany and about 13 inches long (is that bragging?).  It even has a
holster to complete the injunear geek affect. It now lives in a box of
memorabilia.  When I started a graduate course in the mid-1970's, I carried
it to the first class.  All my class mates had TI calculators.  Felt like
the fool who brought a knife to a gun fight.  That same week I bought a TI
SR-50 which I used for about 10 years.  It went through several batteries
and chargers. I replaced it with an HP 11C.  I still use that same HP every
day.  It's older than my married children.  Never found another calculator
with the quality and durability of that vintage HP.  It only requires three
new button batteries once every 5 years or so.

Ned Kleinhenz
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[MBZ] those germans

2015-11-30 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes

impressive

i would fly it although it is lacking in redundancy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDcpwhhUFAo
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Washingtonians?

The kalifornication of the PNW has had odd results.  Opinion page had a small 
essay about the rude drivers experience by an expat.  He moved to kollyfurnia a 
few years ago from Seattle and was back for a visit, encountering an excess of 
discourteous drivers.   He was so pleased to return to his Bay area haunts.  He 
seems to have forgotten that the immigrants from his new home state are the 
reason people drive like idiots here.  Too many non natives moved here and 
messed up the civil nature of our soviet socialist paradise.

clay


On Nov 28, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> I think it is the DC that should be renamed.  Since most of the inhabitants 
> believe bigger goobermnt solves all problems, I would propose calling it 
> Marx, D.C would be most suitable.
> 
> Leave the folks of Washington out of the DC arguement.  They have enough 
> transplanted Kollyfonians to deal with.
> 
> 
>> Do not forget Cedar County, as well as a host of others that want to seceded 
>> from the liberal nutjobs
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> ...and we are trying to change our name to "Jefferson" to avoid the 
>>> confusion.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
>>> Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 10:03 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washingtonians?
>>> 
>>> Hey, Dan, point of order!.
>>> 
>>> I am a TRUE Washingtonian.  Those west coast arrivistes who live in Sattle
>>> et al are "Washington State residents."  Only D.C. area residents merit the
>>> term "Washingtonians".
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 1983 300TD
>>> 1985 300TD
>> >
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2015-11-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

You were lucky to have been missed by all the shrapnel.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires

I was driving back home from Chapel Liberhill on Saturday, there was a tree 
truck towing a big chipper about 100yd in front of me.  I hear a loud 
explosion then tire bits go flying about 20ft into the air, then the 
remainder of the tire starts smoking, then all that flew off, then the 
fender comes flying off and lands up in front of me, then the rim is 
throwing sparks and flames.  I was going to go around it but there was a 
fair amount of traffic in the left lane coming up behind me so I slowed way 
down and the truck pulled over and I got around it.  I ran over one bit of 
tread, and one that went flying sorta went on by me, and I missed the 
fender that ended up in the road too.  It was an enlivening event on an 
otherwise boring drive.  I'm guessing that was a high-pressure tire, it 
made a good noise when it let go.

--R

On 11/30/15 11:28 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks; makes sense. My impressions date from when there was no power 
steering and speeds were lower. I do remember the back end wig-wagging 
when tires regularly blew out during WW-2. Rim technology was less 
advanced then as well (narrower rims from which a flat tire could work 
itself off and go rolling down the highway.

Gerry

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:

I thought bad tires belonged on the front?

Mitch
We always but them on the rear in case they blew out since it's tricky 
to

steer at speed with a front flat tire. Has that changed?
Gerry
Loss of traction in the front makes it hard to turn. (understeer is a 
stable

condition)
Loss of traction in the rear makes it hard to keep the car pointed where 
you're

going. (oversteer is unstable)
Either way, if you suddenly lose air in a left tire on a cloverleaf, 
you're

probably going off road.
Just depends on whether you want to look out the windshield or the back 
window

to see what you're going to hit.

I once watched a woman lose a front wheel at freeway speeds. I was going 
to pull
up beside her and try to tell her the wheel was wobbling but she outran 
me,
speed limit 55, I was doing 65 and she left me in her dust, then the 
wheel came

off within a mile.
She kept it in a straight line. Every time the brake lights came on 
there was a

shower of sparks from the brake disk on the concrete.
I'm thinking she would have had a scary case of oversteer if she was 
driving

that fast with a missing rear wheel.

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Re: [MBZ] Washingtonians?

You sound conflicted. Why not move back east and broaden our tax base?  We
even have a R gov. in the MD State House, despite numerous recounts.  ;).

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:12 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The kalifornication of the PNW has had odd results.  Opinion page had a
> small essay about the rude drivers experience by an expat.  He moved to
> kollyfurnia a few years ago from Seattle and was back for a visit,
> encountering an excess of discourteous drivers.   He was so pleased to
> return to his Bay area haunts.  He seems to have forgotten that the
> immigrants from his new home state are the reason people drive like idiots
> here.  Too many non natives moved here and messed up the civil nature of
> our soviet socialist paradise.
>
> clay
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > I think it is the DC that should be renamed.  Since most of the
> inhabitants believe bigger goobermnt solves all problems, I would propose
> calling it Marx, D.C would be most suitable.
> >
> > Leave the folks of Washington out of the DC arguement.  They have enough
> transplanted Kollyfonians to deal with.
> >
> >
> >> Do not forget Cedar County, as well as a host of others that want to
> seceded from the liberal nutjobs
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> On Nov 27, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...and we are trying to change our name to "Jefferson" to avoid the
> confusion.
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 10:03 AM
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washingtonians?
> >>>
> >>> Hey, Dan, point of order!.
> >>>
> >>> I am a TRUE Washingtonian.  Those west coast arrivistes who live in
> Sattle
> >>> et al are "Washington State residents."  Only D.C. area residents
> merit the
> >>> term "Washingtonians".
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>> 1983 300TD
> >>> 1985 300TD
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?

2015-11-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

Nice! I have always lusted after the TD. But: "...starts perfectly every
time..."? Didn't these have Lucas electrical systems?

Greg

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I would much prefer this one, but in Racing Green

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-mg-td/

clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

I used the Pickett aluminum 803 ES XL (??) back in HS, about 30 years
before the start of the Dark Ages.  We also called them Slip Sticks and had
a dorky holster, the polar opposite of "babe magnet"

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> My "slip stick" from the olden days is a Dietzgen slide rule.  It's
> mahogany and about 13 inches long (is that bragging?).  It even has a
> holster to complete the injunear geek affect. It now lives in a box of
> memorabilia.  When I started a graduate course in the mid-1970's, I carried
> it to the first class.  All my class mates had TI calculators.  Felt like
> the fool who brought a knife to a gun fight.  That same week I bought a TI
> SR-50 which I used for about 10 years.  It went through several batteries
> and chargers. I replaced it with an HP 11C.  I still use that same HP every
> day.  It's older than my married children.  Never found another calculator
> with the quality and durability of that vintage HP.  It only requires three
> new button batteries once every 5 years or so.
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:18:41 -0500 ned kleinhenz via Mercedes
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> Never found another calculator with the quality and durability of that
> vintage HP.  It only requires three new button batteries once every 5
> years or so.

And if you buy ONE 4LR44 battery and split it open, you will find four of
the button batteries you calculator needs, at a cost typically much less
than buying three button batteries.


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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

I still have a couple of Picketts from back in the day. The first
calculators I used were huge things with gears and levers needed for my
statistics classes. Later I had an electronic brick with lit up numbers.

Greg

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I used the Pickett aluminum 803 ES XL (??) back in HS, about 30 years
before the start of the Dark Ages.  We also called them Slip Sticks and had
a dorky holster, the polar opposite of "babe magnet"

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> My "slip stick" from the olden days is a Dietzgen slide rule.  It's
> mahogany and about 13 inches long (is that bragging?).  It even has a
> holster to complete the injunear geek affect. It now lives in a box of
> memorabilia.  When I started a graduate course in the mid-1970's, I
carried
> it to the first class.  All my class mates had TI calculators.  Felt like
> the fool who brought a knife to a gun fight.  That same week I bought a TI
> SR-50 which I used for about 10 years.  It went through several batteries
> and chargers. I replaced it with an HP 11C.  I still use that same HP
every
> day.  It's older than my married children.  Never found another calculator
> with the quality and durability of that vintage HP.  It only requires
three
> new button batteries once every 5 years or so.
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[MBZ] W123 glow circuit

dash light does not come on, starting is hard at 40-degrees,
glow-relay clunks at 30-seconds so the system seems operational.  is
flat fuse in relay box the fix?

another noise.  it seems to be right front area like wheel bearing
that has been noisy for a while but after 10 minutes drive it
disappears.  so i contemplate.  perhaps it is alternator?  it makes
squeal and shifts through 3 or 4 gears like noisy transmission
shifting.  previous guess was stuck bearing that lets loose and
another bearing takes over noise making.

brain-trust - guide me.
thanks
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?

2015-11-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Lucas electrics, AKA "the prince of darkness"

The real reason why British drink warm beer.. ;))

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
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> Nice! I have always lusted after the TD. But: "...starts perfectly every
> time..."? Didn't these have Lucas electrical systems?
>
> Greg
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> I would much prefer this one, but in Racing Green
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-mg-td/
>
> clay
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> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

Could be hardware or somebody next door has a more powerful router and is 
interfering with the signal your macbook is looking for.  I had issue with 
idiot son doing heavy online twitch gaming.

clay


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> I have this macbook with 10.8 on it, and for some reason it keeps dropping 
> the internet connection to my router.  I have a good strong wifi signal and 
> it seems to be connected but no internets.  I think the router is dropping it 
> somehow every few minutes.  I shut off the wifi on the computer, then turn it 
> back on, and it works again for a little while.  This is a fairly recent 
> issue, I have restarted the router a coupla times and it seems to work OK for 
> awhile then the behavior starts up again.  My phone and ipad don't seem to 
> get dropped when the computer is dropped.
> 
> This is the second router I got, the first one was acting funky too and the 
> tech said it was showing faults.  I am guessing that renewing the connection 
> somehow resets the router to work for awhile then something trips it again.
> 
> I'm not sure what to look at on the router, it just mainly shows devices 
> connected and basic net connection speed.  It is a uverse phone/net router, 
> the phone seems to keep working.  It seems to be this machine in particular, 
> but I was using it on the in-laws system over the last few days and no issues 
> with their network so I am thinking this router is going funky again.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

Dan wrote:
> My Dad had one of the first TI digital calculators.

I think TI did a few RPN but not generally.
HP41CX here, in leather HP belt-loop case.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

If the fuse is shot then you won't be able to start the car.  Could be the
relay?

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> dash light does not come on, starting is hard at 40-degrees,
> glow-relay clunks at 30-seconds so the system seems operational.  is
> flat fuse in relay box the fix?
>
> another noise.  it seems to be right front area like wheel bearing
> that has been noisy for a while but after 10 minutes drive it
> disappears.  so i contemplate.  perhaps it is alternator?  it makes
> squeal and shifts through 3 or 4 gears like noisy transmission
> shifting.  previous guess was stuck bearing that lets loose and
> another bearing takes over noise making.
>
> brain-trust - guide me.
> thanks
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

When I was in grad school at the U of Minn there was ONE Wang desktop
calculator assigned to the tenured Head of Department.  We used to take
turns on it.  IIRC it was about 12" x 24" and had a display, not a printer
with paper.

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> Dan wrote:
> > My Dad had one of the first TI digital calculators.
>
> I think TI did a few RPN but not generally.
> HP41CX here, in leather HP belt-loop case.
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

Curly wrote:
> I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we were
> expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of college.

Expected to buy?  I must have done coledg before you.  The public
calculator at coledg was nixie-tube Wang with large processor under
the table and was probably hugely expensive.  Post-coledg I remember
working with a kid and he spent $200 for a 70's HP.  I thought that
was an obscene dollar amount.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

Methinks you have a bad glow plug or two, test the plugs.

Noise: alternator noise will be reproducible with no forward motion but
increase engine RPM.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:46:46 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> dash light does not come on, starting is hard at 40-degrees,
> glow-relay clunks at 30-seconds so the system seems operational.  is
> flat fuse in relay box the fix?

Open the driver's door when you try to start it so the light by the
mirror comes on. You should see the light dim when you turn the key on
and then get brighter when the relay opens.


> another noise.  it seems to be right front area like wheel bearing
> that has been noisy for a while but after 10 minutes drive it
> disappears.  so i contemplate.  perhaps it is alternator?  it makes
> squeal and shifts through 3 or 4 gears like noisy transmission
> shifting.  previous guess was stuck bearing that lets loose and
> another bearing takes over noise making.

Now that's strange. Have you jacked up the right front wheel, grabbed the
tire at 0600 and 1200 and tried to wiggle it back-and-forth?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes


Wang is Chinese, guess what a racist derogatory word for Chinese is?

Hint:  It's in the slogan.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

Chink is the correct spelling AFAIK.

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> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators?
>>
>
> 28C was my college piece.  Like the things a lot, most continue
> to sell for stupid money.  Got a 35 somebody gave me.  An 11C
> prototype, and a 9815.  Only one I ever paid for was the 28C.
> All work, though the 28C batteries are shot, and you can't use
> it without 'em as they're the voltage regulator.
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Re: [MBZ] worth at least $17k

No S/R
Bashed rear door
Idiotic makeshift trunk mat
Rood paint gone

So budget enough for a total repaint, plus new leather for both front seats
and god knows what else.  $10K easily in repairs.



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> I like the portable urinal stuffed under the front passenger seat.  Some
> long road trips, maybe?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

So true story.  A buddy of mine worked for Wang Labs back when, after 
college and some other job.  He was in some sort of technical marketing 
job.  So someone decides they need a marketing campaign to go head-head 
with IBM for some sort of computers or the word processors or 
something.  This would have been late 70s I guess.


They have 3 marketing companies come in to pitch their ideas.  Dr. Wang 
sits in on the meetings.  One of them has this youngish woman doing the 
pitch, a serious marketing babe.  She gets up there and goes through 
various ideas, then comes to one that is the crux of their plan:  "Wang 
-- the Chink in IBM's Armor" with some graphic or something illustrating 
that concept.


Room goes silent.  People looking at the floor and the ceiling, deadly 
quiet.  She is standing there wondering WTF just happened. After a 
minute or so Dr. Wang says in his very soft voice, "Thank you for your 
presentation.  I don't think this will work out."  He gets up and walks 
out.  So the girl collects her stuff and leaves, still not sure what 
happened.  Rest of staff are mortified, figuring they will get reamed 
for even having this pres, but nothing more is ever said about it.


Along about then I met Courtney Wang, Dr. Wang's rather dissolute son, 
who was a good friend/classmate of a friend.  He was a pompous ass, Dr. 
Wang put him in charge of something, and apparently he pretty much ran 
the company into the ground as time went on.  Might have been another 
brother involved too, I don't remember.


--R

On 11/30/15 4:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The Wang at the U of Mn cost $2250 IIRC.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
  

Curly wrote:

I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we were
expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of college.

Expected to buy?  I must have done coledg before you.  The public
calculator at coledg was nixie-tube Wang with large processor under
the table and was probably hugely expensive.  Post-coledg I remember
working with a kid and he spent $200 for a 70's HP.  I thought that
was an obscene dollar amount.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

2015-11-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

IIRC the plugs can be tested easily from the relay contacts. I vaguely
recall that there is also a simple test for the relay?

I had good success with only replacing plugs that tested bad. The effort of
replacing plugs is per plug, so no real advantage to doing all at once. IME
other plugs do not necessarily fail very soon after the bad ones.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

Methinks you have a bad glow plug or two, test the plugs.

Noise: alternator noise will be reproducible with no forward motion but
increase engine RPM.

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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:30:04 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> She gets up there and goes through various ideas, then comes to one
> that is the crux of their plan:  "Wang -- the Chink in IBM's Armor"
> with some graphic or something illustrating that concept.
> 
> Room goes silent.  People looking at the floor and the ceiling, deadly 
> quiet.  She is standing there wondering WTF just happened. After a 
> minute or so Dr. Wang says in his very soft voice, "Thank you for your 
> presentation.  I don't think this will work out."  He gets up and walks 
> out.  So the girl collects her stuff and leaves, still not sure what 
> happened.  Rest of staff are mortified, figuring they will get reamed 
> for even having this pres, but nothing more is ever said about it.

I guess I'm rather dense, too. What was so wrong about the concept?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

Chink.  I think the derogatory word is spelled differently?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 30, 2015 9:29:20 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Wang is Chinese, guess what a racist derogatory word for Chinese is?
>
>Hint:  It's in the slogan.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


Any of you dorks into RPN calculators?


28C was my college piece.  Like the things a lot, most continue
to sell for stupid money.  Got a 35 somebody gave me.  An 11C
prototype, and a 9815.  Only one I ever paid for was the 28C.
All work, though the 28C batteries are shot, and you can't use
it without 'em as they're the voltage regulator.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

Pencil.
Circular calculators
Pickett 1010 ES Trig
At Raytheon
Friden
Wang 
Univac 1108 (Excedrin headache 1108)
After that
Dec machines
Then IBM PC from Sears.

Jeez! I'm almost older than dirt.

And somewhere in all that a Bomar Brain and a tubular slip-stick.

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Greg Fiorentino via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 30 November 2015 20:45
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Calculators

I still have a couple of Picketts from back in the day. The first
calculators I used were huge things with gears and levers needed for my
statistics classes. Later I had an electronic brick with lit up numbers.

Greg
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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

The light is controlled by the relay.  It can signal two things.  Normally it 
comes on and then extinguishes after the relay thinks the pre-glow plugs have 
gotten hot enough (the relay maintains power to the plugs until it reaches the 
safety time-out).  The relay also use the light to signal the operator when the 
system requires service, which is what it is telling you now by not coming on 
when the relay energizes the plugs.

You could measure the resistance of the plugs (normally 0.7 ohms) or measure 
current flow to the plugs to test them, or just replace them all and see if 
that clears the problem.  Work!  If you have money to burn, replace the relay, 
but that is the second least likely component to fail (the least likely failure 
is the dash light).
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] New Neighbors - was OT Mac network troubles

he dindoonuffin

Celebrate Diversity!

--R

On 11/30/15 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Speaking of new neighbors, the couple who bought the house two doors down just
had a major domestic dispute on Friday night. Seems that he beat her to a pulp
and left, then on Saturday morning started calling her saying he was coming
back to do it again.

That explained the multiple gendarmes outside the house first thing Saturday
morning.

Fortunately, one of them is the son in law of our family attorney and former
neighbor. He came over after the call and filled me in. He also told me in no
uncertain terms to call 911 and let them know if hubby came around.

So about an hour later, a car rolls up to their house with hubby and two AA
females, one skinny, one quite rotund. The large one runs up to the front door
and begins beating on it as hard as she can, while screaming obscenities at the
top of her lungs.

I’m already on the phone to 911 to let them know what’s up. The operator says
the sheriff is close by on rolling.

This goes on for a good 3-4 minutes while hubby stands by the car in the
street. Large AA woman is apparently somehow related to hubby from what I can
tell.

Sheriffs roll up. Within a few minutes, hubby is in the back of the cruiser
and Large AA woman is yelling at the cops. Not a good idea, they tell her,
unless she wants to spend the weekend lounging at Che Jail on the taxpayer’s
expense. She quiets down.

Two cops and both women enter the house and come out a few minutes later. Cops
leave, women leave. A Uhaul truck shows up a few hours later along with 3-4
carloads of people, By Sunday morning the UHaul is full, and later that day it
rolls with a line of cars behind it.

I’m thinking, I need to find out who this guy is in case I see him around
again, as I haven’t ever gotten a good look at him. I know his nickname is
“Ozzie”, so I log on to the County’s web site and sift through the booking
records for Saturday. I find him, and he’s go priors. Check this out:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/probation-not-prison-for-family-charged-in-mothers-death/2234039

The son is my neighbor. The guy is a celebrity! Even made Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/06/mary-winston-death-osmond-neglect_n_3554755.html

Great. How many people do you know get convicted of homicide and get
probation? Of course, he’s broken probation so I don’t expect to see him for a
while, if at all.

Oy. Time to get out of Dodge.

Dan

On Nov 30, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
wrote:

My nearest next door neighbors are dead. Black folks on one side, white folks
on the other. Trees all around. No wifi penetrating to the manse.

After the googing I believe it to be a basic conflict between Apple and ATT and
their various hardware and protocol implementations.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

I'm not sure there was "video" back then!  Or if so, the equipment would 
have filled the room...  But yeah, it would have been awesome.


--R

On 11/30/15 5:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

That would be priceless to have on video.



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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

Which reminds me, my uncle Fred (really my great uncle) died a 
couple months ago and things have gotten decidedly weird. Fred was 
married to my aunt Trudy, who is my grandmother's sister. Trudy was 
married once before, her daughter Melanie being the surviving child 
from that. There are two surviving sons from Fred, Tim and Phil.Phil 
is executor of the will and is having a tough time of it. My dad was 
executor of uncle Reg's will, he was Trudy and my grandmother's 
brother, so dad is helping Phil out. Theres a fair amount of money 
involved, low 6 figures and a house on a lake which is probably 
worth something in the mid to low 6 figures. Trudy has alzheimer's 
and is a total space cadet in a nursing home that apparently costs 
around $8,000 a month which will probably eat a sizable chunk of the 
money.
Apparently Melanie has gone money crazy and has started threatening 
Phil and strangely, my dad. In talking to the police dad has 
discovered this is something lowlife idiots do to each other all the 
time. They threaten to "send the police to your house!" and since 
the other low life idiots have something they'd prefer the police 
didn't see they are cowed. Dad found out that a cease and desist 
order costs $20 and gets delivered by the police so Melanie and her 
idiot husband got a visit from Johnny law that they didn't expect. 
It'll get more interesting before its all over I'm sure...
I'm convinced the best thing that could happen to Phil is that his 
mother would live for years and years and use up all the money. 
Sadly Tim is a bit of a slouch and could actually use the money for 
good reasons like the roof over his head and food in his belly.

-Curt



Welcome to the real world of low lifes where one family member will 
kill another for $1000 (more or less)


Then there is the Kollyfonia sister syndrome.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

Not a big surprise. At work when a new Mac OS is released the developers all 
shake their heads "Its like they're going out of their way to make our lives 
harder, NOBODY does it THAT way because its the WORST."
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas 
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles
   
My nearest next door neighbors are dead.  Black folks on one side, white 
folks on the other.  Trees all around.  No wifi penetrating to the manse.

After the googing I believe it to be a basic conflict between Apple and 
ATT and their various hardware and protocol implementations.

--R

On 11/30/15 3:50 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Could be hardware or somebody next door has a more powerful router and is 
> interfering with the signal your macbook is looking for.  I had issue with 
> idiot son doing heavy online twitch gaming.
>
> clay
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have this macbook with 10.8 on it, and for some reason it keeps dropping 
>> the internet connection to my router.  I have a good strong wifi signal and 
>> it seems to be connected but no internets.  I think the router is dropping 
>> it somehow every few minutes.  I shut off the wifi on the computer, then 
>> turn it back on, and it works again for a little while.  This is a fairly 
>> recent issue, I have restarted the router a coupla times and it seems to 
>> work OK for awhile then the behavior starts up again.  My phone and ipad 
>> don't seem to get dropped when the computer is dropped.
>>
>> This is the second router I got, the first one was acting funky too and the 
>> tech said it was showing faults.  I am guessing that renewing the connection 
>> somehow resets the router to work for awhile then something trips it again.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to look at on the router, it just mainly shows devices 
>> connected and basic net connection speed.  It is a uverse phone/net router, 
>> the phone seems to keep working.  It seems to be this machine in particular, 
>> but I was using it on the in-laws system over the last few days and no 
>> issues with their network so I am thinking this router is going funky again.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

That would be priceless to have on video.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 30, 2015 5:30:04 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So true story.  A buddy of mine worked for Wang Labs back when, after 
>college and some other job.  He was in some sort of technical marketing
>
>job.  So someone decides they need a marketing campaign to go head-head
>
>with IBM for some sort of computers or the word processors or 
>something.  This would have been late 70s I guess.
>
>They have 3 marketing companies come in to pitch their ideas.  Dr. Wang
>
>sits in on the meetings.  One of them has this youngish woman doing the
>
>pitch, a serious marketing babe.  She gets up there and goes through 
>various ideas, then comes to one that is the crux of their plan:  "Wang
>
>-- the Chink in IBM's Armor" with some graphic or something
>illustrating 
>that concept.
>
>Room goes silent.  People looking at the floor and the ceiling, deadly 
>quiet.  She is standing there wondering WTF just happened. After a 
>minute or so Dr. Wang says in his very soft voice, "Thank you for your 
>presentation.  I don't think this will work out."  He gets up and walks
>
>out.  So the girl collects her stuff and leaves, still not sure what 
>happened.  Rest of staff are mortified, figuring they will get reamed 
>for even having this pres, but nothing more is ever said about it.
>
>Along about then I met Courtney Wang, Dr. Wang's rather dissolute son, 
>who was a good friend/classmate of a friend.  He was a pompous ass, Dr.
>
>Wang put him in charge of something, and apparently he pretty much ran 
>the company into the ground as time went on.  Might have been another 
>brother involved too, I don't remember.
>
>--R
>
>On 11/30/15 4:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> The Wang at the U of Mn cost $2250 IIRC.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Curly wrote:
 I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we
>were
 expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of college.
>>> Expected to buy?  I must have done coledg before you.  The public
>>> calculator at coledg was nixie-tube Wang with large processor under
>>> the table and was probably hugely expensive.  Post-coledg I remember
>>> working with a kid and he spent $200 for a 70's HP.  I thought that
>>> was an obscene dollar amount.
>>> mao
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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit


Third!

Glow plugs,
GP Fuse 50 amp for 4 cyl, 80 amp for 6 cyl
GP Relay

When 2 GPs are out, the light won't light.  You have out #1 GP and 
another , at least.


That said, i've had GP Relays fail.



The light is controlled by the relay.  It can signal two things. 
Normally it comes on and then extinguishes after the relay thinks 
the pre-glow plugs have gotten hot enough (the relay maintains power 
to the plugs until it reaches the safety time-out).  The relay also 
use the light to signal the operator when the system requires 
service, which is what it is telling you now by not coming on when 
the relay energizes the plugs.


You could measure the resistance of the plugs (normally 0.7 ohms) or 
measure current flow to the plugs to test them, or just replace them 
all and see if that clears the problem.  Work!  If you have money to 
burn, replace the relay, but that is the second least likely 
component to fail (the least likely failure is the dash light).

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] New Neighbors - was OT Mac network troubles

Speaking of new neighbors, the couple who bought the house two doors down just 
had a major domestic dispute on Friday night.  Seems that he beat her to a pulp 
and left, then on Saturday morning started calling her saying he was coming 
back to do it again.

That explained the multiple gendarmes outside the house first thing Saturday 
morning.

Fortunately, one of them is the son in law of our family attorney and former 
neighbor.  He came over after the call and filled me in.  He also told me in no 
uncertain terms to call 911 and let them know if hubby came around.

So about an hour later, a car rolls up to their house with hubby and two AA 
females, one skinny, one quite rotund.  The large one runs up to the front door 
and begins beating on it as hard as she can, while screaming obscenities at the 
top of her lungs.

I’m already on the phone to 911 to let them know what’s up.  The operator says 
the sheriff is close by on rolling.

This goes on for a good 3-4 minutes while hubby stands by the car in the 
street.  Large AA woman is apparently somehow related to hubby from what I can 
tell.

Sheriffs roll up.  Within a few minutes, hubby is in the back of the cruiser 
and Large AA woman is yelling at the cops.  Not a good idea, they tell her, 
unless she wants to spend the weekend lounging at Che Jail on the taxpayer’s 
expense.  She quiets down.

Two cops and both women enter the house and come out a few minutes later.  Cops 
leave, women leave.  A Uhaul truck shows up a few hours later along with 3-4 
carloads of people,  By Sunday morning the UHaul is full, and later that day it 
rolls with a line of cars behind it.

I’m thinking, I need to find out who this guy is in case I see him around 
again, as I haven’t ever gotten a good look at him.  I know his nickname is 
“Ozzie”, so I log on to the County’s web site and sift through the booking 
records for Saturday.  I find him, and he’s go priors.  Check this out:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/probation-not-prison-for-family-charged-in-mothers-death/2234039

The son is my neighbor.  The guy is a celebrity!  Even made Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/06/mary-winston-death-osmond-neglect_n_3554755.html

Great.  How many people do you know get convicted of homicide and get 
probation?  Of course, he’s broken probation so I don’t expect to see him for a 
while, if at all.

Oy.  Time to get out of Dodge.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My nearest next door neighbors are dead.  Black folks on one side, white 
> folks on the other.  Trees all around.  No wifi penetrating to the manse.
> 
> After the googing I believe it to be a basic conflict between Apple and ATT 
> and their various hardware and protocol implementations.
> 
> --R
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

> On November 30, 2015 at 6:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Melanie has gone money crazy and has started threatening Phil and
> strangely, my dad.

Her mom's husband died so she's attacking the executor and his advisor?
Unless Fred adopted her, she's probably not a party to this. 
Best thing for her would be that her mom get everything of his and she get 1/3
of mom's estate. 
Did Fred have children from a prior marriage?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

I neglected to mention that Fred had adopted her and she does stand to get 
something like a 5th of the estate. At one point she had a huge blowout fight 
with Fred while he was in the nursing home shortly before he died and he wrote 
her out of the will entirely. Sadly they "reconciled" which is to say she put 
on a good face long enough to get back into his good graces and the will.
She's an idiot of the highest order. She's had who knows how many kids by at 
least 4 husbands. The oldest son (a year older than me) recently committed 
suicide. Daughter has who knows how many kids which have been taken away by the 
state (but "she's a good mother" says my grandmother), next oldest son is in 
jail basically forever on multiple rape convictions.
Fred was a great man, its sad that his kids and grandkids have turned out 
pretty poor. Tim and Phil are the best of the bunch but Phil still can't own a 
firearm other than a muzzleloader due to a drug charge in his early 20s. He's 
an excellent woodworker when he can keep himself working. Tim was a carpenter 
who got hurt on the job, took the money instead of training for something else 
and runs the sporting goods department at a Wal-Mart. He smokes dope so much 
he's basically a shell...
-Curt
  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors
   




> On November 30, 2015 at 6:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Melanie has gone money crazy and has started threatening Phil and
> strangely, my dad.

Her mom's husband died so she's attacking the executor and his advisor?
Unless Fred adopted her, she's probably not a party to this. 
Best thing for her would be that her mom get everything of his and she get 1/3
of mom's estate. 
Did Fred have children from a prior marriage?

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

Just pull the plug to the plugs, put meter on ohms, put one end in the 
plug, other end to the engine or some other ground.  Should be something 
around .8 ohms IIRC, if it reads open its bad if it reads a high number 
like over about 1.5 its bad.  Do this for each contact on the relay end 
of the glow plug harness.


On 11/30/2015 5:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

IIRC the plugs can be tested easily from the relay contacts. I vaguely
recall that there is also a simple test for the relay?

I had good success with only replacing plugs that tested bad. The effort of
replacing plugs is per plug, so no real advantage to doing all at once. IME
other plugs do not necessarily fail very soon after the bad ones.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 glow circuit

Methinks you have a bad glow plug or two, test the plugs.

Noise: alternator noise will be reproducible with no forward motion but
increase engine RPM.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?

2015-11-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Hahahahahah.. you dog.. I haven't seen one of those badges in 20 yrs..

I ran one on the 65 XKE I had. Bought it for peanuts because no one could
keep the electrical gremlins in their boxes. I tore out everything lucas
and built my own harness, including light switches, used a dodge
alternator, as I recall..

Then drove it till the glove box was full of speeding tickets.. Ahh.. those
were the days.. no point system..

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:29 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOSEPH-LUCAS-PRINCE-OF-DARKNESS-CAR-GRILLE-BADGE-/351094350710?hash=item51bedaa376:g:bBgAAOxydB1Smq~p
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Nice! I have always lusted after the TD. But: "...starts perfectly every
> > time..."? Didn't these have Lucas electrical systems?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
> via
> > Mercedes
> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:18 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: clay
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cafe Racer?
> >
> > I would much prefer this one, but in Racing Green
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-mg-td/
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2015, at 5:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> http://bringatrailer.com/2015/11/28/ukrainian-beemer-brand-new-1985-dnepr-mb
> > 800-w-sidecar/
> >>
> >> Right down the street from me, too.
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

Sounds like wife’s stepsister and husband.  His mom had money and property, and 
believe it or not, we would often hear stepsister and husband talk openly about 
how when mom dies they would be living in luxury.  Every time mom was ill or 
feeling poorly they would be rubbing their collective hands together, figuring 
out what they would be spending their undeserved gains on.

Mom lived to be nearly 100 and just passed last year.  She did a good job of 
running down her accounts before she left this world, so there was little cash 
and it had to be split between three siblings, one of which is the stepsister’s 
husband.  She also left three rental properties, one of which one of the 
sisters has lived in and now gets to in perpetuity.  The others have long term 
renters, but this is in Anderson, IN, which is the poster child for dead Rust 
Belt towns, so the property has minimal value at best.

The best part?  Stepsister and husband lived their lives in anticipation of big 
bucks that they’ll never see.  So they continue alone, mired in debt.  Both are 
retirement age but can’t retire because they can’t afford to.

As I like to say, Karma can be a cruel mistress.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I neglected to mention that Fred had adopted her and she does stand to get 
> something like a 5th of the estate. At one point she had a huge blowout fight 
> with Fred while he was in the nursing home shortly before he died and he 
> wrote her out of the will entirely. Sadly they "reconciled" which is to say 
> she put on a good face long enough to get back into his good graces and the 
> will.
> She's an idiot of the highest order. She's had who knows how many kids by at 
> least 4 husbands. The oldest son (a year older than me) recently committed 
> suicide. Daughter has who knows how many kids which have been taken away by 
> the state (but "she's a good mother" says my grandmother), next oldest son is 
> in jail basically forever on multiple rape convictions.
> Fred was a great man, its sad that his kids and grandkids have turned out 
> pretty poor. Tim and Phil are the best of the bunch but Phil still can't own 
> a firearm other than a muzzleloader due to a drug charge in his early 20s. 
> He's an excellent woodworker when he can keep himself working. Tim was a 
> carpenter who got hurt on the job, took the money instead of training for 
> something else and runs the sporting goods department at a Wal-Mart. He 
> smokes dope so much he's basically a shell...
> -Curt
>  From: Mitch Haley 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On November 30, 2015 at 6:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently Melanie has gone money crazy and has started threatening Phil and
>> strangely, my dad.
> 
> Her mom's husband died so she's attacking the executor and his advisor?
> Unless Fred adopted her, she's probably not a party to this. 
> Best thing for her would be that her mom get everything of his and she get 1/3
> of mom's estate. 
> Did Fred have children from a prior marriage?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac network troubles

My nearest next door neighbors are dead.  Black folks on one side, white 
folks on the other.  Trees all around.  No wifi penetrating to the manse.


After the googing I believe it to be a basic conflict between Apple and 
ATT and their various hardware and protocol implementations.


--R

On 11/30/15 3:50 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

Could be hardware or somebody next door has a more powerful router and is 
interfering with the signal your macbook is looking for.  I had issue with 
idiot son doing heavy online twitch gaming.

clay


On Nov 29, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


I have this macbook with 10.8 on it, and for some reason it keeps dropping the 
internet connection to my router.  I have a good strong wifi signal and it 
seems to be connected but no internets.  I think the router is dropping it 
somehow every few minutes.  I shut off the wifi on the computer, then turn it 
back on, and it works again for a little while.  This is a fairly recent issue, 
I have restarted the router a coupla times and it seems to work OK for awhile 
then the behavior starts up again.  My phone and ipad don't seem to get dropped 
when the computer is dropped.

This is the second router I got, the first one was acting funky too and the 
tech said it was showing faults.  I am guessing that renewing the connection 
somehow resets the router to work for awhile then something trips it again.

I'm not sure what to look at on the router, it just mainly shows devices 
connected and basic net connection speed.  It is a uverse phone/net router, the 
phone seems to keep working.  It seems to be this machine in particular, but I 
was using it on the in-laws system over the last few days and no issues with 
their network so I am thinking this router is going funky again.

Thoughts?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

Guy I used to work with at the school district started his IT career at Wang, 
he was one of the early employees.  He used to tell stories about the place 
that were pretty wacky.  I do recall him saying the old man was a bit of a nut 
job.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That would be priceless to have on video.
> -- 
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> '95 E300
> 
> On November 30, 2015 5:30:04 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> So true story.  A buddy of mine worked for Wang Labs back when, after 
>> college and some other job.  He was in some sort of technical marketing
>> 
>> job.  So someone decides they need a marketing campaign to go head-head
>> 
>> with IBM for some sort of computers or the word processors or 
>> something.  This would have been late 70s I guess.
>> 
>> They have 3 marketing companies come in to pitch their ideas.  Dr. Wang
>> 
>> sits in on the meetings.  One of them has this youngish woman doing the
>> 
>> pitch, a serious marketing babe.  She gets up there and goes through 
>> various ideas, then comes to one that is the crux of their plan:  "Wang
>> 
>> -- the Chink in IBM's Armor" with some graphic or something
>> illustrating 
>> that concept.
>> 
>> Room goes silent.  People looking at the floor and the ceiling, deadly 
>> quiet.  She is standing there wondering WTF just happened. After a 
>> minute or so Dr. Wang says in his very soft voice, "Thank you for your 
>> presentation.  I don't think this will work out."  He gets up and walks
>> 
>> out.  So the girl collects her stuff and leaves, still not sure what 
>> happened.  Rest of staff are mortified, figuring they will get reamed 
>> for even having this pres, but nothing more is ever said about it.
>> 
>> Along about then I met Courtney Wang, Dr. Wang's rather dissolute son, 
>> who was a good friend/classmate of a friend.  He was a pompous ass, Dr.
>> 
>> Wang put him in charge of something, and apparently he pretty much ran 
>> the company into the ground as time went on.  Might have been another 
>> brother involved too, I don't remember.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 11/30/15 4:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The Wang at the U of Mn cost $2250 IIRC.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Curly wrote:
> I remember well how expensive they were.  The HP trig calculator we
>> were
> expected to buy for college cost more than a whole year of college.
 Expected to buy?  I must have done coledg before you.  The public
 calculator at coledg was nixie-tube Wang with large processor under
 the table and was probably hugely expensive.  Post-coledg I remember
 working with a kid and he spent $200 for a 70's HP.  I thought that
 was an obscene dollar amount.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

Which reminds me, my uncle Fred (really my great uncle) died a couple months 
ago and things have gotten decidedly weird. Fred was married to my aunt Trudy, 
who is my grandmother's sister. Trudy was married once before, her daughter 
Melanie being the surviving child from that. There are two surviving sons from 
Fred, Tim and Phil.Phil is executor of the will and is having a tough time of 
it. My dad was executor of uncle Reg's will, he was Trudy and my grandmother's 
brother, so dad is helping Phil out. Theres a fair amount of money involved, 
low 6 figures and a house on a lake which is probably worth something in the 
mid to low 6 figures. Trudy has alzheimer's and is a total space cadet in a 
nursing home that apparently costs around $8,000 a month which will probably 
eat a sizable chunk of the money.
Apparently Melanie has gone money crazy and has started threatening Phil and 
strangely, my dad. In talking to the police dad has discovered this is 
something lowlife idiots do to each other all the time. They threaten to "send 
the police to your house!" and since the other low life idiots have something 
they'd prefer the police didn't see they are cowed. Dad found out that a cease 
and desist order costs $20 and gets delivered by the police so Melanie and her 
idiot husband got a visit from Johnny law that they didn't expect. It'll get 
more interesting before its all over I'm sure...
I'm convinced the best thing that could happen to Phil is that his mother would 
live for years and years and use up all the money. Sadly Tim is a bit of a 
slouch and could actually use the money for good reasons like the roof over his 
head and food in his belly.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Neighbors - was OT Mac network troubles
   
Speaking of new neighbors, the couple who bought the house two doors down just 
had a major domestic dispute on Friday night.  Seems that he beat her to a pulp 
and left, then on Saturday morning started calling her saying he was coming 
back to do it again.

That explained the multiple gendarmes outside the house first thing Saturday 
morning.

Fortunately, one of them is the son in law of our family attorney and former 
neighbor.  He came over after the call and filled me in.  He also told me in no 
uncertain terms to call 911 and let them know if hubby came around.

So about an hour later, a car rolls up to their house with hubby and two AA 
females, one skinny, one quite rotund.  The large one runs up to the front door 
and begins beating on it as hard as she can, while screaming obscenities at the 
top of her lungs.

I’m already on the phone to 911 to let them know what’s up.  The operator says 
the sheriff is close by on rolling.

This goes on for a good 3-4 minutes while hubby stands by the car in the 
street.  Large AA woman is apparently somehow related to hubby from what I can 
tell.

Sheriffs roll up.  Within a few minutes, hubby is in the back of the cruiser 
and Large AA woman is yelling at the cops.  Not a good idea, they tell her, 
unless she wants to spend the weekend lounging at Che Jail on the taxpayer’s 
expense.  She quiets down.

Two cops and both women enter the house and come out a few minutes later.  Cops 
leave, women leave.  A Uhaul truck shows up a few hours later along with 3-4 
carloads of people,  By Sunday morning the UHaul is full, and later that day it 
rolls with a line of cars behind it.

I’m thinking, I need to find out who this guy is in case I see him around 
again, as I haven’t ever gotten a good look at him.  I know his nickname is 
“Ozzie”, so I log on to the County’s web site and sift through the booking 
records for Saturday.  I find him, and he’s go priors.  Check this out:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/probation-not-prison-for-family-charged-in-mothers-death/2234039

The son is my neighbor.  The guy is a celebrity!  Even made Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/06/mary-winston-death-osmond-neglect_n_3554755.html

Great.  How many people do you know get convicted of homicide and get 
probation?  Of course, he’s broken probation so I don’t expect to see him for a 
while, if at all.

Oy.  Time to get out of Dodge.

Dan 
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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

2015-11-30 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

This is why I strongly recommend an interest only trust for real  
estate, and it can be used to handle money too by having "transfer on  
death" arrangements.  This way only the recipient of the trust has  
mitts on the dough until it can be distributed, real estate doesn't  
get tied up in court until the house rots away, etc.  The actual  
transfer of property is sort of complicated, but for tax purposes is  
immediate upon arranging the trust -- this way the nursing home  
doesn't get the house and other property.


At any rate, the perception that there are piles of cash needing a  
home sure brings out the best in people, eh?


Peter

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[MBZ] worth at least $17k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-sel-6-3-/191749220042?forcerrptr=true=item2ca524e6ca:g:uBoAAOSwf-VWW-OQ=191749220042 



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Re: [MBZ] worth at least $17k

I like the portable urinal stuffed under the front passenger seat.  Some long 
road trips, maybe?

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


No wonder I couldn't get myself a girlfriend. Dork fest.


It was unbelievable to me, but my dorm room computer actually
did get a girl to come by to see it.  We dated for quite awhile,
actually.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Calculators


Andrew spews hatespeech:  Chink is the correct spelling AFAIK.



Why the hate, Andrew?  Why claim expertise in derogatory terms?

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Initially I had a 28C. Kept it for six months or so then sold it to a friend so 
that I could upgrade to 28S which had a lot more memory. Four of us had the 
same calculator. We programmed in some dumb calculator tunes and played them in 
unison. No wonder I couldn't get myself a girlfriend. Dork fest.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2015, at 9:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators?
> 
> 28C was my college piece.  Like the things a lot, most continue
> to sell for stupid money.  Got a 35 somebody gave me.  An 11C
> prototype, and a 9815.  Only one I ever paid for was the 28C.
> All work, though the 28C batteries are shot, and you can't use
> it without 'em as they're the voltage regulator.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


I had a 28C upgrade to 28S which had a lot more memory.


I never felt the 28C lacked memory.  But then, I also had a computer
in my dorm room.  (One of two on the floor, and four in the entire
dorm.  Yes, it was awhile ago!)  8 kBytes of RAM, baby!  Count 'em,
_eight_!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Tires

> On November 30, 2015 at 1:42 AM "arche...@embarqmail.com"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:12:49 -0500 (EST)
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:
> > 
> > I thought bad tires belonged on the front?
> > 
> > Mitch
> 
> We always but them on the rear in case they blew out since it's tricky to
> steer at speed with a front flat tire. Has that changed?
> Gerry

Loss of traction in the front makes it hard to turn. (understeer is a stable
condition)
Loss of traction in the rear makes it hard to keep the car pointed where you're
going. (oversteer is unstable)
Either way, if you suddenly lose air in a left tire on a cloverleaf, you're
probably going off road. 
Just depends on whether you want to look out the windshield or the back window
to see what you're going to hit. 

I once watched a woman lose a front wheel at freeway speeds. I was going to pull
up beside her and try to tell her the wheel was wobbling but she outran me,
speed limit 55, I was doing 65 and she left me in her dust, then the wheel came
off within a mile.
She kept it in a straight line. Every time the brake lights came on there was a
shower of sparks from the brake disk on the concrete. 
I'm thinking she would have had a scary case of oversteer if she was driving
that fast with a missing rear wheel. 

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Thanks Dan.  Any sources for information and diagnostics?

I've always liked the 124 convertible better than the R107, with the exception 
of the short bumper 107s.  More room!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 29, 2015 11:52:01 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>W124 convertibles were sort of bastards, weren’t they?  There weren’t
>many of them from what I recall.
>
>I would need to know more about what’s not working.  Hydraulics?
>Controls?  Makes a big difference as far as what you might be getting
>into.
>
>The hydraulics aren’t bad from Klaus (God of all things hydraulic):
>
>http://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/mercedes-benz/44-full-set-w124.html
>
>Dan
>
>
>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go
>wrong for $1250?
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> From: ro...@craigslist.org
>> Sent: November 29, 2015 11:40:12 PM EST
>> To: dillonm...@gmail.com
>> Subject: 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k
>runs great
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> dillonm...@bellsouth.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
>> 
>> 
>> 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k runs great
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
>> 
>>

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

> On November 29, 2015 at 11:43 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go wrong for
> $1250?

Usual caveat about cheap Mercedes applies. 
The hole in the quarter panel where the antenna belongs implies that it has been
suffering under present ownership. 
Emerald Green is nice, but I wish the interior were saddle, or something with
some color/character. 
Five years ago I was seeing nice 100kmi 94-95 ragtops for $10-15k on autotrader
but I think they've come down. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

My Dad had one of the first TI digital calculators. I had it up until a few 
years ago, I suspect it got discarded in a move.

It was white plastic with the little red pixelated LED digits that had a bubble 
shaped lens over them to make the digits readable. It was the size of a small 
brick and weighed about as much.

It did basic arithmetic operations and nothing else.

I know it was working up until it's disappearance, as I had to find a different 
power supply for it as the original puked.

I just remember him talking about how expensive it was. This would have been in 
the early 1970s, I think.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It had a feel of real quality. The way the buttons moved etc...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I've still got the same calculator from college days, haven't used 
>> it in a long time.
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On November 29, 2015 11:06:57 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators? I had an HP 28S during high
>>> school. It broke years ago- fell out of my pocket. I loved that thing.
>>> Thinking about replacing it.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Somebody needs to jump on that.

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> On Nov 29, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go wrong 
> for $1250?
> -- 
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> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> From: ro...@craigslist.org
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> To: dillonm...@gmail.com
> Subject: 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k runs great
> 
> 
> 
> 
> dillonm...@bellsouth.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
> 
> 
> 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k runs great
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Loan me a grand?

I'm going to check it out, see what's going on.  Anyone else get the
impression the ad was written by a female of the species?
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Somebody needs to jump on that.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

There is a dark blue 94 W124 convertible that's parked on the street by my 
office all the time. Looks like it's in good shape from a casual glance. I'm 
not keen about the W124 chassis looks, and when you add the ragtop it makes it 
even weirder, I think.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On November 29, 2015 at 11:43 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go wrong 
>> for
>> $1250?
> 
> Usual caveat about cheap Mercedes applies. 
> The hole in the quarter panel where the antenna belongs implies that it has 
> been
> suffering under present ownership. 
> Emerald Green is nice, but I wish the interior were saddle, or something with
> some color/character. 
> Five years ago I was seeing nice 100kmi 94-95 ragtops for $10-15k on 
> autotrader
> but I think they've come down. 
> 
> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

I think this one is about a $750 car, if it were a sedan.  The clearcoat is
coming off badly on most of the horizontal surfaces, missing wheel center
and as Mitch pointed out the missing antenna all point to a car that has
been driven into the ground.  Another issue is the trashed passenger seat
bottom, yet the driver's side looks OK, maybe someone has swapped them?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Usual caveat about cheap Mercedes applies.
> The hole in the quarter panel where the antenna belongs implies that it
> has been
> suffering under present ownership.
> Emerald Green is nice, but I wish the interior were saddle, or something
> with
> some color/character.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon & Mobil1

It's not Doktor Booth's M1 anymore, see Curly's post from last month or
so.  Group III base stock, not really true synthetic, but they are still
charging you the full price.

Last night I took a look at our local Wallyworld, the only weights for
"Extended Performance" which may still be Group IV base are all for
gassers, nothing in a Xw-40 or Xw-50 weight.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ordered two 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 on Amazon. $26.52 each, a few pennies
> more than Dead Sam sells it for here. Free shipping.
>
> They sent it UPS Second Day Air.
>
> How can they make money on this??
>
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[MBZ] Amazon & Mobil1

Ordered two 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 on Amazon. $26.52 each, a few pennies more 
than Dead Sam sells it for here. Free shipping.

They sent it UPS Second Day Air.

How can they make money on this??

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Calculators

2015-11-30 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

It had a feel of real quality. The way the buttons moved etc...

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> On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think I've still got the same calculator from college days, haven't used it 
> in a long time.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On November 29, 2015 11:06:57 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Any of you dorks into RPN calculators? I had an HP 28S during high
>> school. It broke years ago- fell out of my pocket. I loved that thing.
>> Thinking about replacing it.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe this convertible?

Search the BenzWorld W124 forum would be my first suggestion. If the hydraulics 
are shot you're going to drop $600 or so for a complete rebuild plus the labor, 
maybe a day or two if you do it. I've done the R129 which has 11 cylinders, and 
it took the better part of two days to R

Klaus is the top hydraulics rebuild God, and is really helpful. I emailed him 
with a question when I was doing mine, and he emailed me back several times 
after answering to be sure everything was good and to see if I had additional 
questions.

I know nothing of the W124 top system, but since it's the same vintage as the 
R129 it's probably the same or similar to it. Pretty simple, a controller, 
hydraulic pump, solenoids and lines.

Dan

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan.  Any sources for information and diagnostics?
> 
> I've always liked the 124 convertible better than the R107, with the 
> exception of the short bumper 107s.  More room!
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On November 29, 2015 11:52:01 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> W124 convertibles were sort of bastards, weren’t they?  There weren’t
>> many of them from what I recall.
>> 
>> I would need to know more about what’s not working.  Hydraulics?
>> Controls?  Makes a big difference as far as what you might be getting
>> into.
>> 
>> The hydraulics aren’t bad from Klaus (God of all things hydraulic):
>> 
>> http://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/mercedes-benz/44-full-set-w124.html
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anybody know anything about fixing 124 convertible tops?  Hard to go
>> wrong for $1250?
>>> -- 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Original Message 
>>> From: ro...@craigslist.org
>>> Sent: November 29, 2015 11:40:12 PM EST
>>> To: dillonm...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k
>> runs great
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> dillonm...@bellsouth.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1993 Mercedes 320 convertible great everyday driver 170k runs great
>>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
>>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5334139750.html
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Re: [MBZ] One for you ChiTown Boys


That would probably be a good deal with a fairly easy fix?

--R

On 11/29/15 11:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/5337399744.html

Bounces wildly!

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Calculators