date:20170320


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Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercedes 300TD Wagon $3500

$1500 for the car and $2000 for the prize puppy thoroughbred

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
> 1979 Mercedes 300TD Wagon
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

I'd love to cook this on the gas grille, but would need larger pieces so
they don't fall through the grate.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Kaleb sed:
>
> ‎>> What the heck is Korean BBQ?
>
> Then Third Floydsby sez:
>
> >‎Yeah right it's the neighborhood cats ("beef").
>
> Nah. Dog.
>
> Look at the ad that was on the Web page.
>
>
>
> Rick
>   Original Message
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

I was referring to Rich Thomas' snide and gratuitous remark about fellow
travelers.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> In the late 60's my mom was buying raw milk from a local farm.  It came in
> large-mouthed gallon glass jars, of the mayonnaise or pickles variety.  Not
> robust enough for commercial use, for sure.  IIRC glass milk bottles are
> more like hollow bowling pins, and nearly as stout.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

But if it's the wrong code

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He said he has the code.  He’s powered it up to find that it’s timing out
> from failed coding attempts.  They’re cumulative, so if someone tried it
> 4-5 times it’s got to sit there powered up until the watchdog timer times
> out.  Could easily be a day if they tried it enough times.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dealer will give you the code of you ask parts dept nicely.
> >
> >
>
> > >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Guys,
> > >>> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash
> "Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my
> old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked
> for the code.
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

2017-03-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

What I'd really like is a red interior.  Unfortunately almost every interior 
piece is unique.   Seats, door cards, carpet, door sills, all unique to coupes 
and cabs.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 20, 2017 7:41:06 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I have some really nice green w124 seats out of a TE.  Not sure they
>are the same as the cab.  Missing the mounting rails, as I had to
>destroy them to remove the seats from the PnP car.  If you arrange
>shipping, I will let them go cheap
>
>clay
>
>
>
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Answering a multitude of questions from ya'll, here's the story.  I
>think
>> I've shared most of this before.
>> 
>> Surfing Craigs list one night last fall, found a local ad for a 1995
>E320,
>> decided to "click on the link" given that an E320 could be sedan,
>station
>> wagon, coupe, ???
>> 
>> Nothing in the text said convertible or cabriolet but the pictures
>plainly
>> showed this car, a nice looking convertible.  Ad had been up for
>about a
>> month at that point, apparently very little interest.  I think the
>asking
>> price had already been reduced from $3200 to $2200.  I showed SWMBO,
>she
>> was intrigued, said if I could get it for less than $1k she'd
>approve.
>> 
>> The next day I called the seller - the owner of the tow company - and
>he
>> told me everything that was wrong and lowered the price to $1k before
>I
>> even started to begin to negotiate.  I made no comment on price but
>made
>> arrangements to see the car, then called Rich to see if he wanted to
>tag
>> along (he did).
>> 
>> We looked at the car shortly after that, the seller told us the whole
>> story.  Apparently the prior owner (let's call him Gary) had left it
>at a
>> shop for repair, which (the story goes) was diagnosed as a bad fuel
>pump.
>> Gary never authorized the repair, so it sat at the shop, they left a
>voice
>> mail or two and then shoved it to the back of their lot, with the
>driver's
>> window down for some reason.  Gary has died in the meanwhile, never
>> responded, the car sat, and then the shop went out of business and
>had to
>> clear out their lot.  They called this tow company to get rid of the
>car as
>> abandoned property, tow company owner liked the looks and decided
>he'd fix
>> it up for his wife.  He went through the process to get the title,
>sent a
>> registered letter to the address of the last owner Gary, the daughter
>of
>> the now-deceased responded and said she'd take the car.  She doesn't
>show
>> up within some legally specified time frame, so tow company gets the
>> title.  Daughter gets some notification that the title had been
>> transferred, calls up the tow co. and curses / threatens / etc to
>which the
>> owner said "Pay the storage fee of $30 / day which adds up to several
>> thousand now, and you can have the car back.".  She didn't pay up,
>> meanwhile owner decided he wasn't interested in fixing it up, put it
>up for
>> sale.
>> 
>> Rich and I start looking over the car, and it is ROUGH. Inside all
>moldy
>> and full of leaves and water, driver's seat looks like a complete
>loss.
>> Ignition cylinder has been smashed back into the dash by someone
>trying to
>> steal the car, center console was gently opened up with a pick axe
>and pry
>> bar to disengage the transmission lock.  Top is not fully seated in
>the
>> rear.  The trunk lid is dented up a bit.  No coolant at all in the
>cooling
>> system.  No battery, no keys.
>> 
>> I just kept walking around making a list of everything I could find
>wrong,
>> meanwhile Rich is chatting the guy up about some other cars he was
>selling
>> (Land Rover Discovery - now gone Rich, and a BMW 2002?  Or was that
>an
>> Alfa?  Engine-less little sedan from the 60's).  Finally I started
>talking
>> with the guy about all the stuff I found wrong, and he immediately
>drops
>> the price to $500.  I ask if he can throw in storage for six months
>while I
>> clean out the garage so I can fit the car inside, he counters with
>"not
>> only will I store it, I'll detail it inside and out before I deliver
>to
>> your house."
>> 
>> Well, I let six months slip by, and we're well into month seven, so I
>> expected him to charge me some storage and didn't ask about the
>detailing
>> or the tow.  Texted him to ask for it to be brought over, that took a
>> couple days set up a time when a driver was available in the evening.
>He
>> didn't say a word about either the detailing or the storage fee he
>could
>> have charged me, and the tow was only $30 which I gladly paid.
>> 
>> I think the mileage is around 113k miles.  The body is very clean
>with no
>> rust.  There's damage to the front bumper from the tow, so I'll need
>a new
>> bumper cover at some point.  I suspect that the engine and
>transmission are
>> sound, but only time will tell.  No idea about the hydraulic top
>condition,
>> I suspect I'll be getting that

[MBZ] 1979 Mercedes 300TD Wagon $3500



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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

2017-03-20 Thread clay via Mercedes

I have some really nice green w124 seats out of a TE.  Not sure they are the 
same as the cab.  Missing the mounting rails, as I had to destroy them to 
remove the seats from the PnP car.  If you arrange shipping, I will let them go 
cheap

clay



> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Answering a multitude of questions from ya'll, here's the story.  I think
> I've shared most of this before.
> 
> Surfing Craigs list one night last fall, found a local ad for a 1995 E320,
> decided to "click on the link" given that an E320 could be sedan, station
> wagon, coupe, ???
> 
> Nothing in the text said convertible or cabriolet but the pictures plainly
> showed this car, a nice looking convertible.  Ad had been up for about a
> month at that point, apparently very little interest.  I think the asking
> price had already been reduced from $3200 to $2200.  I showed SWMBO, she
> was intrigued, said if I could get it for less than $1k she'd approve.
> 
> The next day I called the seller - the owner of the tow company - and he
> told me everything that was wrong and lowered the price to $1k before I
> even started to begin to negotiate.  I made no comment on price but made
> arrangements to see the car, then called Rich to see if he wanted to tag
> along (he did).
> 
> We looked at the car shortly after that, the seller told us the whole
> story.  Apparently the prior owner (let's call him Gary) had left it at a
> shop for repair, which (the story goes) was diagnosed as a bad fuel pump.
> Gary never authorized the repair, so it sat at the shop, they left a voice
> mail or two and then shoved it to the back of their lot, with the driver's
> window down for some reason.  Gary has died in the meanwhile, never
> responded, the car sat, and then the shop went out of business and had to
> clear out their lot.  They called this tow company to get rid of the car as
> abandoned property, tow company owner liked the looks and decided he'd fix
> it up for his wife.  He went through the process to get the title, sent a
> registered letter to the address of the last owner Gary, the daughter of
> the now-deceased responded and said she'd take the car.  She doesn't show
> up within some legally specified time frame, so tow company gets the
> title.  Daughter gets some notification that the title had been
> transferred, calls up the tow co. and curses / threatens / etc to which the
> owner said "Pay the storage fee of $30 / day which adds up to several
> thousand now, and you can have the car back.".  She didn't pay up,
> meanwhile owner decided he wasn't interested in fixing it up, put it up for
> sale.
> 
> Rich and I start looking over the car, and it is ROUGH. Inside all moldy
> and full of leaves and water, driver's seat looks like a complete loss.
> Ignition cylinder has been smashed back into the dash by someone trying to
> steal the car, center console was gently opened up with a pick axe and pry
> bar to disengage the transmission lock.  Top is not fully seated in the
> rear.  The trunk lid is dented up a bit.  No coolant at all in the cooling
> system.  No battery, no keys.
> 
> I just kept walking around making a list of everything I could find wrong,
> meanwhile Rich is chatting the guy up about some other cars he was selling
> (Land Rover Discovery - now gone Rich, and a BMW 2002?  Or was that an
> Alfa?  Engine-less little sedan from the 60's).  Finally I started talking
> with the guy about all the stuff I found wrong, and he immediately drops
> the price to $500.  I ask if he can throw in storage for six months while I
> clean out the garage so I can fit the car inside, he counters with "not
> only will I store it, I'll detail it inside and out before I deliver to
> your house."
> 
> Well, I let six months slip by, and we're well into month seven, so I
> expected him to charge me some storage and didn't ask about the detailing
> or the tow.  Texted him to ask for it to be brought over, that took a
> couple days set up a time when a driver was available in the evening. He
> didn't say a word about either the detailing or the storage fee he could
> have charged me, and the tow was only $30 which I gladly paid.
> 
> I think the mileage is around 113k miles.  The body is very clean with no
> rust.  There's damage to the front bumper from the tow, so I'll need a new
> bumper cover at some point.  I suspect that the engine and transmission are
> sound, but only time will tell.  No idea about the hydraulic top condition,
> I suspect I'll be getting that all rebuilt (Thanks for the contact Dan).
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

2017-03-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Still hafta clean the "green" off the rear of the car...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 20, 2017 5:17:37 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>THAT IS NOT THE SAME CAR!  The car we looked at was kinda green and
>black.
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 3/20/17 12:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good
>bones".
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
>>> Didn't happen if there are no pictures.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Hey Max,
 It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare
>>> pretty expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some
>photos
>>> if you get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix
>and
>>> sell?  Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
 Larry

> On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought this car from a tow company
>that was
>>> selling it as abandoned
> property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a
>good
>>> title
> for it.
>
> Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several
>years,
>>> so
> the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the
>car
>>> at
> some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the
>center
>>> console
> which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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>“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>large or petty,
>never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

2017-03-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Disco gone.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 20, 2017 5:14:00 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Hey did you ask the guy about that Disco?  Is it still there?
>
>--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

2017-03-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Actually the ad appears real. It is an OR number that returns to this business. 

‎https://motorclubcompany.com/associate/18717/

Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

Consult your Nigerian banker first before you go.

--FT


On 3/20/17 3:45 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> Should I check this out?
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
> Kevin
>
>
> ‎
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

2017-03-20 Thread MG via Mercedes

There is a slight downslope toward the pump so the ball should be 
safe. At least it wasn't any problem for me.


Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:



MG via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM
If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see 
if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from 
the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the 
banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you 
don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak 
spring so that isn't any problem even after it's stretched. Just don't 
drop the little copper sealing ring. (OR THE BALL!)


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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

He said he has the code.  He’s powered it up to find that it’s timing out from 
failed coding attempts.  They’re cumulative, so if someone tried it 4-5 times 
it’s got to sit there powered up until the watchdog timer times out.  Could 
easily be a day if they tried it enough times.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Dealer will give you the code of you ask parts dept nicely.
> 
> 

> >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys,
> >>> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash 
> >>> "Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my 
> >>> old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked 
> >>> for the code.

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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

Dealer will give you the code of you ask parts dept nicely.

On Mar 20, 2017 2:32 PM, "Dan--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> In a nutshell, every time an incorrect code is entered a watchdog timer in
> the radio's logic resets and adds more time to the previous interval.  In
> other words, the more you attempt to enter incorrect codes the longer it
> will be before you're allowed to re-enter a code. The timer increments in
> pretty large amounts, as after making just a few attempts it can take many
> hours before it resets, possibly over a day. The timer only runs while the
> radio is powered up, so powering it down doesn't gain anything in the way
> of time.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Kaleb -
> >
> >
> >> On 03/20/2017 12:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> You probably have to wait 24 hours
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys,
> >>> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash
> "Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my
> old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked
> for the code.
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>> LarryT
> >>> 91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

I’ll give it a shot this weekend when I have a few minutes.

Thanks!

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:36 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see if it 
> helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from the top of 
> the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the banjo bolt with a 
> 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you don't have to take the 
> whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak spring so that isn't any 
> problem even after it's stretched. Just don't drop the little copper sealing 
> ring.


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MG via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM
If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to see 
if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt loose from 
the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the pump. Hold the 
banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to loosen the plug, you 
don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out, the spring is a very weak 
spring so that isn't any problem even after it's stretched. Just don't 
drop the little copper sealing ring. (OR THE BALL!)


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

2017-03-20 Thread MG via Mercedes

If you can I would go ahead and stretch the spring first just to
see if it helps. It takes 10 min. to take the spring cover bolt
loose from the top of the banjo bolt on the engine side of the
pump. Hold the banjo bolt with a 17mm wrench and use a 14mm to
loosen the plug, you don't have to take the whole banjo bolt out,
the spring is a very weak spring so that isn't any problem even
after it's stretched. Just don't drop the little copper sealing
ring.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for researching this, Manfred!

The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one
for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big
time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.

Dan

On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that the
guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says that if
the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust
it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which
by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes problems. I will
always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused me any problems
yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.

One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the line
and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. If you
don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that next. BTW
stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.

Manfred

clay via Mercedes wrote:

I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.
Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We have
been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source
rebuild kit. Much money and instructions. Then he looked online (being big on
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item. It comes all as a
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). I have no idea what it does,
but seems it needs replaced on my SD. Just because.
clay

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

Too bad, those are always so far away it would cost $2000 to get it 
here.  If it was close, I would snag it.  It would make a good SDL with SLS!



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 2:51 PM
Check it out, but be really careful. You could have a real mess in 
your hands with a vergasser that's sat for several years.


-D




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Consult your Nigerian banker first before you go.

--FT


On 3/20/17 3:45 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

Should I check this out?

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
Kevin


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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


THAT IS NOT THE SAME CAR!  The car we looked at was kinda green and black.

--FT


On 3/20/17 12:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good bones".

-
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

Hey Max,
It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare

pretty expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos
if you get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and
sell?  Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...

Larry


On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
So now I have something to keep me out the streets.




I bought this car from a tow company that was
selling it as abandoned

property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good

title

for it.

Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years,

so

the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car

at

some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center

console

which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
-
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


Hey did you ask the guy about that Disco?  Is it still there?

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

I did.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you adjust the new rack bolt per the procedure? If you did and it still 
> rocks you have other problems.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Did you adjust the new rack bolt per the procedure? If you did and it still 
rocks you have other problems.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes. It idles and runs great, but the engine sways or shakes at idle. New 
> motor mounts, too.
> 
> I don't drive it enough to tell for sure, but it may be temperature dependent.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Idle speed adjusted correctly?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at 
> idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion 
>> that the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual 
>> it says that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure 
>> above .8 bar then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring 
>> and put it back together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to 
>> do because it causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first 
>> because it hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems 
>> in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
>> 
>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
>> bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
>> do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out 
>> the idle a bit.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
>>> the air.
>>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>>> research.
>>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked 
>>> online (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild 
>>> item.  It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). 
>>>  I have no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  
>>> Just because.
>>> clay
 On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

I would probably go for it. Looks worth the money. Hard to beat a 560sel. I 
have had my eye out for a decent 91, I want a last year 560. 

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Should I check this out?
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
> Kevin
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun


Yeah right it's the neighborhood cats ("beef").

My cousin's husband is half Korean (mother).  They visited Fri night, he 
was talking about Korean stuff his mother makes, damn it made me want to 
go visit.


--FT


On 3/19/17 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Whoops!

Wrong recipe.  This is what I’m cooking:

http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2010/05/bulgogi-korean-bbq-beef.html

Bulgogi, not galbi.

Also yum.

-D





On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What the heck is Korean BBQ?

I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit down.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
later on.

-D



On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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What are you going to do the rest of the day?

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

Yes.  Curly will drive his rusty SDL up, swap in the engine, and have his
"nice" SDL.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Should I check this out?
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
> Kevin
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

Check it out, but be really careful. You could have a real mess in your hands 
with a vergasser that's sat for several years.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Should I check this out?
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
> Kevin
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes benz 560 SEL (project)

2017-03-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:45:08 -0700 Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Should I check this out?
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
> Kevin

It sounds like a scam.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Yes. It idles and runs great, but the engine sways or shakes at idle. New motor 
mounts, too.

I don't drive it enough to tell for sure, but it may be temperature dependent.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Idle speed adjusted correctly?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
 
 The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
 one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
 big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
 
 Dan
 
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
> causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
> hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
> pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
> 
> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
> bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
> do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out 
> the idle a bit.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
>> the air.
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>> research.
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  
>> It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have 
>> no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just 
>> because.
>> clay
>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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2017-03-20 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

Should I check this out?

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6051594306.html
Kevin


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Idle speed adjusted correctly?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Had it since I first got it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>>> 
>>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
>>> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
>>> big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
 the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
 that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
 then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
 together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
 causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
 hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
 pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
 
 One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
 line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 
 bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to 
 do that next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the 
 idle a bit.
 
 Manfred
 
 clay via Mercedes wrote:
> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in 
> the air.
> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
> research.
> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  
> It comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have 
> no idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
> clay
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>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Yes. Had it since I first got it.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>> 
>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order 
>> one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle 
>> big time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
>>> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
>>> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
>>> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
>>> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it 
>>> causes problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it 
>>> hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his 
>>> pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.
>>> 
>>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. 
>>> If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that 
>>> next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a 
>>> bit.
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
 I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
 air.
 Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
 have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
 research.
 ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
 Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
 (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
 comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
 idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
 clay
> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Yes, I might try that first to see if there's any effect.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:32:03 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
>> 
>> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may
>> order one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it
>> shakes at idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can
>> tell.
> 
> Or stretch the spring, as Manfred mentioned ...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Does it have the updated rack damper bolt?

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one 
> for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big 
> time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that 
>> the guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says 
>> that if the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar 
>> then adjust it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back 
>> together. Which by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes 
>> problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused 
>> me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it 
>> feels just fine in mine.
>> 
>> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the 
>> line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. 
>> If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that 
>> next. BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a 
>> bit.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>>> air.
>>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We 
>>> have been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep 
>>> research.
>>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
>>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
>>> idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
>>> clay
 On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

2017-03-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:32:03 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks for researching this, Manfred!
> 
> The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may
> order one for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it
> shakes at idle big time, but everything is in order from what I can
> tell.

Or stretch the spring, as Manfred mentioned ...


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Thanks for researching this, Manfred!

The bolt with spring is a whopping $27 list from Mercedes, so I may order one 
for my 300D, which has a really rough idle. That is, it shakes at idle big 
time, but everything is in order from what I can tell.

Dan

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:58 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the conclusion that the 
> guy is just trying to make some money. If you read the manual it says that if 
> the spring in there is too weak to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust 
> it to 27mm. In other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which 
> by the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes problems. I will 
> always try the MB manual way first because it hasn't caused me any problems 
> yet. It may cause him problems in his pocketbook but it feels just fine in 
> mine.
> 
> One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge on the line 
> and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at least 1-1.3 bar. If you 
> don't then you need to rebuild the lift pump. I will have to do that next. 
> BTW stretching the spring on mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>> air.
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
>> been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It 
>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no 
>> idea what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.
>> clay
>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


Hi Max,
Sounds like he was ready for that car to be gone from his yard!  
Those front bumper covers are pretty easy to replace - basically it's a 
plastic cover with hard blocks of styrofoam behind it.  I replaced the 
front bumper on my '91 shortly after I bought it.

Good luck with your discoveries,
Larry

On 03/20/2017 2:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Answering a multitude of questions from ya'll, here's the story.  I think
I've shared most of this before.

Surfing Craigs list one night last fall, found a local ad for a 1995 E320,
decided to "click on the link" given that an E320 could be sedan, station
wagon, coupe, ???

Nothing in the text said convertible or cabriolet but the pictures plainly
showed this car, a nice looking convertible.  Ad had been up for about a
month at that point, apparently very little interest.  I think the asking
price had already been reduced from $3200 to $2200.  I showed SWMBO, she
was intrigued, said if I could get it for less than $1k she'd approve.

The next day I called the seller - the owner of the tow company - and he
told me everything that was wrong and lowered the price to $1k before I
even started to begin to negotiate.  I made no comment on price but made
arrangements to see the car, then called Rich to see if he wanted to tag
along (he did).

We looked at the car shortly after that, the seller told us the whole
story.  Apparently the prior owner (let's call him Gary) had left it at a
shop for repair, which (the story goes) was diagnosed as a bad fuel pump.
Gary never authorized the repair, so it sat at the shop, they left a voice
mail or two and then shoved it to the back of their lot, with the driver's
window down for some reason.  Gary has died in the meanwhile, never
responded, the car sat, and then the shop went out of business and had to
clear out their lot.  They called this tow company to get rid of the car as
abandoned property, tow company owner liked the looks and decided he'd fix
it up for his wife.  He went through the process to get the title, sent a
registered letter to the address of the last owner Gary, the daughter of
the now-deceased responded and said she'd take the car.  She doesn't show
up within some legally specified time frame, so tow company gets the
title.  Daughter gets some notification that the title had been
transferred, calls up the tow co. and curses / threatens / etc to which the
owner said "Pay the storage fee of $30 / day which adds up to several
thousand now, and you can have the car back.".  She didn't pay up,
meanwhile owner decided he wasn't interested in fixing it up, put it up for
sale.

Rich and I start looking over the car, and it is ROUGH. Inside all moldy
and full of leaves and water, driver's seat looks like a complete loss.
Ignition cylinder has been smashed back into the dash by someone trying to
steal the car, center console was gently opened up with a pick axe and pry
bar to disengage the transmission lock.  Top is not fully seated in the
rear.  The trunk lid is dented up a bit.  No coolant at all in the cooling
system.  No battery, no keys.

I just kept walking around making a list of everything I could find wrong,
meanwhile Rich is chatting the guy up about some other cars he was selling
(Land Rover Discovery - now gone Rich, and a BMW 2002?  Or was that an
Alfa?  Engine-less little sedan from the 60's).  Finally I started talking
with the guy about all the stuff I found wrong, and he immediately drops
the price to $500.  I ask if he can throw in storage for six months while I
clean out the garage so I can fit the car inside, he counters with "not
only will I store it, I'll detail it inside and out before I deliver to
your house."

Well, I let six months slip by, and we're well into month seven, so I
expected him to charge me some storage and didn't ask about the detailing
or the tow.  Texted him to ask for it to be brought over, that took a
couple days set up a time when a driver was available in the evening. He
didn't say a word about either the detailing or the storage fee he could
have charged me, and the tow was only $30 which I gladly paid.

I think the mileage is around 113k miles.  The body is very clean with no
rust.  There's damage to the front bumper from the tow, so I'll need a new
bumper cover at some point.  I suspect that the engine and transmission are
sound, but only time will tell.  No idea about the hydraulic top condition,
I suspect I'll be getting that all rebuilt (Thanks for the contact Dan).

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

$500 is a steal

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good bones".
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> Didn't happen if there are no pictures.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Max,
>>> It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare
>> pretty expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos
>> if you get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and
>> sell?  Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
>>> Larry
>>> 
 On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I bought this car from a tow company that was
>> selling it as abandoned
 property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good
>> title
 for it.
 
 Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years,
>> so
 the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car
>> at
 some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center
>> console
 which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

2017-03-20 Thread MG via Mercedes

I read the whole list of messages on this and came to the
conclusion that the guy is just trying to make some money. If you
read the manual it says that if the spring in there is too weak
to keep the pressure above .8 bar then adjust it to 27mm. In
other words stretch the spring and put it back together. Which by
the way is what that guy says not to do because it causes
problems. I will always try the MB manual way first because it
hasn't caused me any problems yet. It may cause him problems in
his pocketbook but it feels just fine in mine.

One of the things the manual also says is to put a pressure gauge
on the line and pinch the banana hose shut and see if you have at
least 1-1.3 bar. If you don't then you need to rebuild the lift
pump. I will have to do that next. BTW stretching the spring on
mine to 25mm did smooth out the idle a bit.

Manfred

clay via Mercedes wrote:

I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.

Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We have
been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep research.

ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source
rebuild kit. Much money and instructions. Then he looked online (being big on
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item. It comes all as a
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). I have no idea what it does,
but seems it needs replaced on my SD. Just because.

clay

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

In a nutshell, every time an incorrect code is entered a watchdog timer in the 
radio's logic resets and adds more time to the previous interval.  In other 
words, the more you attempt to enter incorrect codes the longer it will be 
before you're allowed to re-enter a code. The timer increments in pretty large 
amounts, as after making just a few attempts it can take many hours before it 
resets, possibly over a day. The timer only runs while the radio is powered up, 
so powering it down doesn't gain anything in the way of time.

-D

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> Thanks Kaleb -
> 
> 
>> On 03/20/2017 12:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You probably have to wait 24 hours
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash 
>>> "Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my 
>>> old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked 
>>> for the code.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

AND some form or connectors that cannot let go while you are driving up 
or down.


RB

On 20/03/2017 12:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Easy enough to do with 2x wood ramp and blocks.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM
Likely could make them in 2 pieces with the ramp detachable from the 
flat topped part.


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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

Answering a multitude of questions from ya'll, here's the story.  I think
I've shared most of this before.

Surfing Craigs list one night last fall, found a local ad for a 1995 E320,
decided to "click on the link" given that an E320 could be sedan, station
wagon, coupe, ???

Nothing in the text said convertible or cabriolet but the pictures plainly
showed this car, a nice looking convertible.  Ad had been up for about a
month at that point, apparently very little interest.  I think the asking
price had already been reduced from $3200 to $2200.  I showed SWMBO, she
was intrigued, said if I could get it for less than $1k she'd approve.

The next day I called the seller - the owner of the tow company - and he
told me everything that was wrong and lowered the price to $1k before I
even started to begin to negotiate.  I made no comment on price but made
arrangements to see the car, then called Rich to see if he wanted to tag
along (he did).

We looked at the car shortly after that, the seller told us the whole
story.  Apparently the prior owner (let's call him Gary) had left it at a
shop for repair, which (the story goes) was diagnosed as a bad fuel pump.
Gary never authorized the repair, so it sat at the shop, they left a voice
mail or two and then shoved it to the back of their lot, with the driver's
window down for some reason.  Gary has died in the meanwhile, never
responded, the car sat, and then the shop went out of business and had to
clear out their lot.  They called this tow company to get rid of the car as
abandoned property, tow company owner liked the looks and decided he'd fix
it up for his wife.  He went through the process to get the title, sent a
registered letter to the address of the last owner Gary, the daughter of
the now-deceased responded and said she'd take the car.  She doesn't show
up within some legally specified time frame, so tow company gets the
title.  Daughter gets some notification that the title had been
transferred, calls up the tow co. and curses / threatens / etc to which the
owner said "Pay the storage fee of $30 / day which adds up to several
thousand now, and you can have the car back.".  She didn't pay up,
meanwhile owner decided he wasn't interested in fixing it up, put it up for
sale.

Rich and I start looking over the car, and it is ROUGH. Inside all moldy
and full of leaves and water, driver's seat looks like a complete loss.
Ignition cylinder has been smashed back into the dash by someone trying to
steal the car, center console was gently opened up with a pick axe and pry
bar to disengage the transmission lock.  Top is not fully seated in the
rear.  The trunk lid is dented up a bit.  No coolant at all in the cooling
system.  No battery, no keys.

I just kept walking around making a list of everything I could find wrong,
meanwhile Rich is chatting the guy up about some other cars he was selling
(Land Rover Discovery - now gone Rich, and a BMW 2002?  Or was that an
Alfa?  Engine-less little sedan from the 60's).  Finally I started talking
with the guy about all the stuff I found wrong, and he immediately drops
the price to $500.  I ask if he can throw in storage for six months while I
clean out the garage so I can fit the car inside, he counters with "not
only will I store it, I'll detail it inside and out before I deliver to
your house."

Well, I let six months slip by, and we're well into month seven, so I
expected him to charge me some storage and didn't ask about the detailing
or the tow.  Texted him to ask for it to be brought over, that took a
couple days set up a time when a driver was available in the evening. He
didn't say a word about either the detailing or the storage fee he could
have charged me, and the tow was only $30 which I gladly paid.

I think the mileage is around 113k miles.  The body is very clean with no
rust.  There's damage to the front bumper from the tow, so I'll need a new
bumper cover at some point.  I suspect that the engine and transmission are
sound, but only time will tell.  No idea about the hydraulic top condition,
I suspect I'll be getting that all rebuilt (Thanks for the contact Dan).

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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


speaking of the top - is it hydraulically operated or electric?

LarryT


On 03/20/2017 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry,

Soft top is decent on the exterior, but the liner is falling down inside.
I haven't found any rips on the outside, but there are a couple of wear
spots that concern me.

Plan is to bring back to a driver to enjoy on weekends.  I also doubt they
were ever offered by MBUSA with a manual trans option, but I haven't looked
into that at all.

Just sent a picture to the list.

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Max
Charleston SC

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Hey Max,
It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare pretty
expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos if you
get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and sell?
Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
Larry


On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


So now I have something to keep me out the streets.




  I bought this car from a tow company that was
selling it as abandoned
property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
for it.

Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center
console
which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

Thanks Max - Best of luck with it!!  How many miles on the engine and do 
you know why the tow co had it to begin with?  I know that's asking a 
lot but I thought I'd ask ;-)  I guess the storage fees added up pretty 
quickly for the previous owner.


Just looked at the photo - WOW - that looks great!  When you said it was 
stored outside for years I pictured something looking really bad! If 
driveable after you get the ignition and gearshift mechanisms corrected, 
you got a great deal!


WAY TO GO!

 Larry


On 03/20/2017 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry,

Soft top is decent on the exterior, but the liner is falling down inside.
I haven't found any rips on the outside, but there are a couple of wear
spots that concern me.

Plan is to bring back to a driver to enjoy on weekends.  I also doubt they
were ever offered by MBUSA with a manual trans option, but I haven't looked
into that at all.

Just sent a picture to the list.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Hey Max,
It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare pretty
expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos if you
get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and sell?
Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
Larry


On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


So now I have something to keep me out the streets.




  I bought this car from a tow company that was
selling it as abandoned
property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
for it.

Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center
console
which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432


Thanks Kaleb -


On 03/20/2017 12:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

You probably have to wait 24 hours

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi Guys,
I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash "Wait".  I have the 
security code but it never asked for it.I put my old Becker back in and it performed normally - 
flashed "Wait" then asked for the code.
Any ideas?
LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot


Easy enough to do with 2x wood ramp and blocks.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM
Likely could make them in 2 pieces with the ramp detachable from the 
flat topped part.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


Nice lookin for sitting outside for so long.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM
Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good bones".

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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Likely could make them in 2 pieces with the ramp detachable from the 
flat topped part.


RB

On 19/03/2017 9:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, if there was a negative about my wooden ramps it would be that they’re 
long, maybe 5’, and it makes it harder to get under the car some times.  In 
fact, I rarely drive on them, I usually just jack the car up and slide them 
under the wheel.  The bad part about that is that they’re so long I have to 
turn them the opposite direction because otherwise I couldn’t get the jack 
under the jack points on the rockers.

-D



On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:45 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
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I have made a couple of different sets out of 3/4" plywood. The 1st set was 
taller and wider than most and was used for an old Chevy pickup. The newer set has 
longer ramps so that they work with modern cars with low front valances. The other 
benefit with them is that they are much easier to drive up onto so one is less 
likely to drive too far forward. The only downside is that longer ramps interfere 
more if one is trying to get under the car from the side. I originally got the idea 
for these from a Hotrod or maybe CARCRAFT magazine back about 1970.I have had the 
metal ramps too but they were too steep for my 86 Taurus so I gave them to my b-in-l 
and built the 2nd set noted above. Not sure what became of the 1st set. They were 
out at the cottage for years but my mother must have disposed of them in some manner.




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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

Outside looks nice. Any idea of the condition of the hydraulics?

The very, very best hydraulic cylinder rebuild guy in the world is Klauss at 
Top Hydraulics. And his stuff is very reasonably priced, too.

-D

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here she is.  Lot's and lots of work ahead, but "she's got good bones".
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 

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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

Larry,

Soft top is decent on the exterior, but the liner is falling down inside.
I haven't found any rips on the outside, but there are a couple of wear
spots that concern me.

Plan is to bring back to a driver to enjoy on weekends.  I also doubt they
were ever offered by MBUSA with a manual trans option, but I haven't looked
into that at all.

Just sent a picture to the list.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
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> Hey Max,
> It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare pretty
> expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos if you
> get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and sell?
> Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
> Larry
>
>
> On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I bought this car from a tow company that was
>> selling it as abandoned
>> property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
>> for it.
>>
>> Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
>> the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
>> some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center
>> console
>> which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

You probably have to wait 24 hours

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>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash "Wait".  
> I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my old Becker 
> back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked for the code.
> Any ideas?
> LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

OK, you asked for it.  Standby to approve a message with picture
attached

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On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> Didn't happen if there are no pictures.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Max,
> > It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare
> pretty expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos
> if you get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and
> sell?  Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
> > Larry
> >
> >> On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
> >>
>
>
>
>I bought this car from a tow company that was
> selling it as abandoned
> >> property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good
> title
> >> for it.
> >>
> >> Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years,
> so
> >> the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car
> at
> >> some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center
> console
> >> which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
> >> -
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Didn't happen if there are no pictures.

-D

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Max,
> It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare pretty 
> expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some photos if you get 
> a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a fix and sell?  Did they 
> ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...
> Larry
> 
>> On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>   I bought this car from a tow company that was selling it 
>> as abandoned
>> property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
>> for it.
>> 
>> Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
>> the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
>> some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center console
>> which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

2017-03-20 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

An Intel Mac is an Intel PC. While Apple has added some customization to
the ROM with the EFI, it is still the base reference Intel EFI underneath.
As long as the GRUB you are using has the support for EFI in it you should
be able to boot. Also, GPT disks are usually a thing in the Apple world,
but I've got standard MBR disks to boot in my Mini. As I said in an earlier
post, though, I've had to install the Linux OS on a straight IBM PC and
transplant the disk.The Intel EFI will recognize the MBR and attempt to
boot it. Ran CentOS 6 on Mini for a while this way.

However, the Apple bit in the EFI is looking for GPT stuff, so *sometimes*
the Live CDs don't boot completely, or can't see the MBR disk once booted
because the Apple portion of the BIOS ROM didn't pass off the HDD as
available because it wasn't GPT. I haven't looked at it real low level or
anything, so I'm not 100% sure where the hiccups start happening. I just
know that I was jaw dropped surprised when I took a disk from a failed
CentOS 6 laptop and dropped into the Mini with a dead HDD that I looked
away to find a disk to boot Mac OS X with and came back to my login prompt
on CentOS 6.

I've used the workaround / trick a couple times since.

EdB

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> Puppy is a good, lightweight distro, I've used it a lot as a portable OS
> on a USB drive. Sadly Mac won't support that, or I've never gotten it to
> work anyway.
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

2017-03-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Puppy is a good, lightweight distro, I've used it a lot as a portable OS on a 
USB drive. Sadly Mac won't support that, or I've never gotten it to work anyway.
Curt

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  On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey via 
Mercedes wrote:   What about Puppy linux?  Myself I'd 
use OSX 10.whatever on it.  It's Unix
enough that way.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

2017-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

What about Puppy linux?  Myself I'd use OSX 10.whatever on it.  It's Unix
enough that way.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

2017-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

In the late 60's my mom was buying raw milk from a local farm.  It came in
large-mouthed gallon glass jars, of the mayonnaise or pickles variety.  Not
robust enough for commercial use, for sure.  IIRC glass milk bottles are
more like hollow bowling pins, and nearly as stout.

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Re: [MBZ] Becker BE-1432

2017-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Leave it powered continuously until it asks for the code.  Might take a day
or three.

Somebody blew the code entry enough times that it has put you on punishment
detail.  If you're lucky, it's still on the hour-long wait.

I hope you _do_ have the security code.

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[MBZ] Becker BE-1432


Hi Guys,
I bought a used Becker and when I powered it up all it does is flash 
"Wait".  I have the security code but it never asked for it.I put my 
old Becker back in and it performed normally - flashed "Wait" then asked 
for the code.

Any ideas?
LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home


Hey Max,
It sounds pretty good!   How's the soft top?  IIRC those thingsare 
pretty expensive to have professionally installed.   Sends me some 
photos if you get a chance.  Do you plan this to be a daily driver or a 
fix and sell?  Did they ever put manual trans in those?  Doubt it...

Larry

On 03/20/2017 9:49 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

So now I have something to keep me out the streets.
   
I bought this car from a tow company that was selling it as abandoned

property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
for it.

Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center console
which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Not Like You Would Be In a Hurry Anyway...

2017-03-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Taking a driving pic with the brake warning light on is a bit of a hint...
-Curt


  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:04 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Not Like You Would Be In a Hurry Anyway...
   
Nice:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-/122399138549?hash=item1c7f8ea2f5:g:HTMAAOSwzgBYyFrS=mtr
 


Don’t care for the center console, but….

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

2017-03-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

New Hampshire changed its milk laws a couple years ago allowing individual 
farms to more easily sell direct to stores. As a result we're getting very good 
milk in glass bottles from a couple local dairies. Costs a little more, plus 
the deposit for the glass bottle, but we don't drink as much at a sitting 
because the flavor is better.
-Curt


  From: M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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Cc: M. Mitchell Marmel 
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 5:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk
   
Near as I can tell from brief research, the largest glass container of milk
in the 1950s would be half-gallons...

I have seen gallon cartons in the past, but they're somewhat unwieldy.
Most dairies use plastic jugs for milk nowadays.

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> was: OT Winter won't stop!
> Andrew wrote:
> > That term is so 1950s.
>
> 1950s - How was a gallon of milk packaged?
> Plastic as we see today?  Are there cardboard gallons?
> tin.tin
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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

It's a 95 e300

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 08:32:17 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Well yes I could smell it, could seem it leaking all over the shop
>> floor. I have not driven this car since I got it home. Just now started
>> tearing into It. What should have been a simple job took many hours
>> because whoever worked on it before had the metal lines so tight it
>> took forever to beat them off. The #2 deliver valve holder clamp deal
>> was missing so the valve loosened before  the line would let go. Took
>> forever to get it loose from the holder. #3 injector did not seem like
>> it was even tightened down which was probably the cause of the uneven
>> idle/dead cylinder when hot. That line was so tight it turned the
>> injector instead of the line. It took little effort though for the
>> injector to start turning so it was not tight in the first place.
> 
> And which car is this?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 08:32:17 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well yes I could smell it, could seem it leaking all over the shop
> floor. I have not driven this car since I got it home. Just now started
> tearing into It. What should have been a simple job took many hours
> because whoever worked on it before had the metal lines so tight it
> took forever to beat them off. The #2 deliver valve holder clamp deal
> was missing so the valve loosened before  the line would let go. Took
> forever to get it loose from the holder. #3 injector did not seem like
> it was even tightened down which was probably the cause of the uneven
> idle/dead cylinder when hot. That line was so tight it turned the
> injector instead of the line. It took little effort though for the
> injector to start turning so it was not tight in the first place.

And which car is this?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

Well I bought it last year and brought it home where it sat till now, so fairly 
recent. 

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, ok, so this is a recent purchase I take it?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well yes I could smell it, could seem it leaking all over the shop floor.
>> I have not driven this car since I got it home. Just now started tearing
>> into
>> It. What should have been a simple job took many hours because whoever
>> worked on it before had the metal lines so tight it took forever to beat
>> them off. The #2 deliver valve holder clamp deal was missing so the valve
>> loosened before  the line would let go. Took forever to get it loose from
>> the holder. #3 injector did not seem like it was even tightened down which
>> was probably the cause of the uneven idle/dead cylinder when hot. That line
>> was so tight it turned the injector instead of the line. It took little
>> effort though for the injector to start turning so it was not tight in the
>> first place.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can smell the diesel when just one return line starts to leak.  You
>>> didn't smell anything?  How in the world can the car get to that state!!?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines,
>> leaks
 from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting
 replaced.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

Actually yes

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> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> I have several non rusty bodies
> 
> Any 123's?
> 
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[MBZ] My $500 124 cabriolet project is finally home

So now I have something to keep me out the streets.

I bought this car from a tow company that was selling it as abandoned
property.  Tow Co. had already gotten the title, so I've got a good title
for it.

Driver's side window was left rolled completely down for several years, so
the interior is just a little scruffy.  Someone tried to steal the car at
some point, so the ignition lock is messed up as well as the center console
which was torn into to get the transmission parking lock released.
-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

Ah, ok, so this is a recent purchase I take it?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well yes I could smell it, could seem it leaking all over the shop floor.
> I have not driven this car since I got it home. Just now started tearing
> into
> It. What should have been a simple job took many hours because whoever
> worked on it before had the metal lines so tight it took forever to beat
> them off. The #2 deliver valve holder clamp deal was missing so the valve
> loosened before  the line would let go. Took forever to get it loose from
> the holder. #3 injector did not seem like it was even tightened down which
> was probably the cause of the uneven idle/dead cylinder when hot. That line
> was so tight it turned the injector instead of the line. It took little
> effort though for the injector to start turning so it was not tight in the
> first place.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can smell the diesel when just one return line starts to leak.  You
> > didn't smell anything?  How in the world can the car get to that state!!?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines,
> leaks
> >> from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting
> >> replaced.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

Well yes I could smell it, could seem it leaking all over the shop floor. I 
have not driven this car since I got it home. Just now started tearing into
It. What should have been a simple job took many hours because whoever worked 
on it before had the metal lines so tight it took forever to beat them off. The 
#2 deliver valve holder clamp deal was missing so the valve loosened before  
the line would let go. Took forever to get it loose from the holder. #3 
injector did not seem like it was even tightened down which was probably the 
cause of the uneven idle/dead cylinder when hot. That line was so tight it 
turned the injector instead of the line. It took little effort though for the 
injector to start turning so it was not tight in the first place.

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can smell the diesel when just one return line starts to leak.  You
> didn't smell anything?  How in the world can the car get to that state!!?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, leaks
>> from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting
>> replaced.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the week


20inch rims

yo.

--FT


On 3/19/17 8:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


Mercedes SEL 560
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050804378.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] SDL

2017-03-20 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Good plan!

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The proper response of course, is to drive the rusty 126 to Kaleb's
> "hinterlands" and do the full engine swap there. Then drive home. No
> trailering of non-rusty body needed.
> 
> EdB
> 
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> costs too much to move them from the hinterlands where you live to where I
>> live.
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>>> March 19, 2017 at 9:49 PM
>>> Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to
>>> the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on CL that
>>> just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There are too few
>>> buyers with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.
>>> 
>>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

Maine and New Hampster are full of them.  A college friend of mine was 
from the Boston area, his family would go up that way a lot, I think his 
dad might have had a "camp" or something up there.  His dad had a bit of 
affinity for that lifestyle (he was a shop teacher and contractor) and 
knew a bunch of these guys, would buy stuff from them on occasion, old 
antique stuff and whatnot. The provenance of the goods was never 
questioned, some of these guys were part of old families that had been 
in the areas for ages, apparently they had money and goods but for 
whatever reasons just went off the grid and lived like hermits.


I like that word, "hermit."

--FT


On 3/19/17 5:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Very strange indeed.  What will he do after serving his sentence?  Disappear 
again, I'll reckon.  How many more like him are out there?


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Re: [MBZ] Not Like You Would Be In a Hurry Anyway...

Would have been cool except for the center console hack job

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> 
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>  
> 
> 
> Don’t care for the center console, but….
> 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

2017-03-20 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

The proper response of course, is to drive the rusty 126 to Kaleb's
"hinterlands" and do the full engine swap there. Then drive home. No
trailering of non-rusty body needed.

EdB

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> costs too much to move them from the hinterlands where you live to where I
> live.
>
> clay via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2017 at 9:49 PM
>> Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to
>> the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on CL that
>> just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There are too few
>> buyers with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.
>>
>> clay
>>
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

2017-03-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Kaleb sez:

>I have several non rusty bodies

Any 123's?

Rick
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[MBZ] Todd Knutson

A lot of you here know Todd.  Todd and his family lost their 21 year old son 
last week.

If you want to reach out to Todd you can do so at:  to...@wi.rr.com

I am sure they would be appreciative of any and all kind words and support.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

I can smell the diesel when just one return line starts to leak.  You
didn't smell anything?  How in the world can the car get to that state!!?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, leaks
> from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting
> replaced.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

2017-03-20 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

Curley,

Are you sure it is a Core 2? The spec list I'm looking at lists the
processor for a MacBook 1,1 as a Core Duo 1.83 13". That also explains the
2GB RAM cap, the Core Duo's were 32-Bit processors. Technically if you
could get the motherboard to recognize the DIMM it should be able to
address up to 3GB, but there is also the limitation of the 32-Bit EFI BIOS.

So, linux wise, you may want to go as lightweight as possible. Usually I
recommend Elementary OS because it is very Mac like in usage. But it is
also a bit graphics heavy so you might get annoyed with some of the
slowness. A very large amount of the distros today are based around the
Ubuntu base image, which is itself based on Debian. Debian has always had a
huge following. The other major distro would be the RPM style, Fedora
based. CentOS, Red Hat and the like. Someone else mentioned Mint, it is
also an Ubuntu based lightweight distro so would be another good choice.

Though I think you'd probably want to look at something like Lubuntu. It
runs LXDE as the desktop, so doesn't give a lot of the graphics heavy stuff
most new OSes seem to like. It has minimum specs of a P4 and 1GB of RAM, so
will run on the MacBook hardware.

I'll tell you though, I have not had much luck installing Linux directly on
Apple hardware for some reason. Always seem to get a hiccup, so your
mileage may vary. However, I have had luck installing Linux on a more IBM
styled PC system, getting GRUB loaded, yanking the disk and dropping back
in the Mac and watching it boot. Which is really wild, so if you try to
install direct and run into a lot of headaches, maybe do the initial
install on a IBM PC system and see if that works.

EdB

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with recent
> HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even $100 on
> the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of linux on it?
> What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or Looey Don question.
>
> In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or can
> be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
> It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop
> computer or some such.
>
> I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was still
> free.
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

Which hollow bolt is it?  I was looking at the EPC for my 350SDL and didn’t see 
anything like it, just a bunch of hollow bolts. Maybe the OM603 doesn’t use one?

On my 300D I found a hollow bolt that it on the end of the return line where it 
enters the IP - that’s referred to in the EPC as a “valve”.  I;’m assuming 
that’s it.  A whopping $27.50 list.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2017, at 2:01 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had one go bad on a OM621.  I have known about them for forty-some years.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2017 at 9:32 PM
>> I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the 
>> air.
>> 
>> Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We have 
>> been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep research.
>> 
>> ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes 
>> Source rebuild kit. Much money and instructions. Then he looked online 
>> (being big on research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item. It 
>> comes all as a unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617). I have no idea 
>> what it does, but seems it needs replaced on my SD. Just because.
>> 
>> clay
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[MBZ] Not Like You Would Be In a Hurry Anyway...

Nice:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-/122399138549?hash=item1c7f8ea2f5:g:HTMAAOSwzgBYyFrS=mtr
 


Don’t care for the center console, but….

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

In the late 50s there were gallon paper cartons and gallon glass jugs 
used by some dairies, but the half gallon glass jug was king.



M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
March 20, 2017 at 12:42 AM
Near as I can tell from brief research, the largest glass container of 
milk

in the 1950s would be half-gallons...

I have seen gallon cartons in the past, but they're somewhat unwieldy.
Most dairies use plastic jugs for milk nowadays.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

2017-03-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

All glass as I recall (for consumers).  Didn't need big quantities.  Got
deliveries daily (or every other day) to an insulated box by the front door.
Fridge (or ice box) wasn't so big to hold gallons.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of M.
> Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
> 
> Near as I can tell from brief research, the largest glass container of
milk
> in the 1950s would be half-gallons...
> 
> I have seen gallon cartons in the past, but they're somewhat unwieldy.
> Most dairies use plastic jugs for milk nowadays.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > was: OT Winter won't stop!
> > Andrew wrote:
> > > That term is so 1950s.
> >
> > 1950s - How was a gallon of milk packaged?
> > Plastic as we see today?  Are there cardboard gallons?
> > tin.tin


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Re: [MBZ] SDL

costs too much to move them from the hinterlands where you live to where 
I live.



clay via Mercedes 
March 19, 2017 at 9:49 PM
Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming 
to the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on 
CL that just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There 
are too few buyers with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines 
back to good.


clay



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?