Re: [MBZ] OT Salted nuts

2018-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Also, many (most?) places use brine bow vs rock salt.  At leasy that's how they 
do it in NC.

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> Craig via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Salted nuts
> 
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:37:34 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > SWMBA and I are in disagreement about winter road conditions along the
> > Atlantic coast and other real winter places.  I contend that the roads
> > are salted and that this continues to this day.  She is of the opinion
> > that salting roads is an ecological crime and if they do not salt her
> > Alaska roads, the rest of the nation, especially in the radical
> > liberal enclaves of the North East, salt has been banned.
> 
> Salt helps lower the melting point of ice, but it lowers it only a limited 
> amount.
> When it is -30 deg.F. outside, salt will help with melting not at all. So 
> salting the
> roads in those conditions is futile.
> 
> 
> > SO, those who are in the know (last time I spent any winter time back
> > east was over 50 years ago) who gets the victory cupcake?
> 
> They salt the roads.
> 
> I have attached a copy of a web page written in 2014. Is that close enough to
> the present?
> 
> 
> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Not always. How about Charles Martel.  But I guess he was Frankish, not French.

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> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 1:05 PM
> 
> French military is in deep trouble the only factory in France that makes
> white flags burned down..
> 
> Ever wonder why all the major boulevards in France are lined with trees. 
> So
> invading armies don't have to march in the hot sun...
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:22:49 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The main issue is that France has insufficient taxes on fossil fuel
> energy, well taxes and wealth redistribution in general, and
> insufficient social programs to promote a more austere lifestyle in
> keeping with the fight against climate change. More socialism,
> immigration, diversity, lifestyle restrictions, and assured benefits
> for all would be better to achieve the goals. 

https://freedomoutpost.com/riot-police-remove-helmets-join-in-solidarity-with-citizens-protesting-corrupt-government/

 Riot Police Remove Helmets, Join in Solidarity with Citizens
 Protesting Corrupt Government As 100,000 citizens from the left
 and the right joined in a massive protest over the weekend, many
 riot police officers were seen removing their helmets and joining
 them in solidarity.



Craig

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[MBZ] OT Salted nuts

2018-12-04 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
SWMBA and I are in disagreement about winter road conditions along the Atlantic 
coast and other real winter places.  I contend that the roads are salted and 
that this continues to this day.  She is of the opinion that salting roads is 
an ecological crime and if they do not salt her Alaska roads, the rest of the 
nation, especially in the radical liberal enclaves of the North East, salt has 
been banned.

I understand that salt being flushed into streams that support anadromous 
fishies is not a nice thing.  But, there are no fish of any value left feeding 
into the Atlantic, and the white man cares not a whit for his footprint or 
damage to indigenous populations back east.  The First Peoples out that way are 
without the stout Treaty rights that the Pacific Coastal tribes enjoy.

SO, those who are in the know (last time I spent any winter time back east was 
over 50 years ago) who gets the victory cupcake?



clay monroe
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think that must be them "big city" MA inspections, I don't have any issues in 
my little town but I always send Angie or dress in my oldest, scruffiest 
clothes and don't take a shower that morning so I look my redneck best...
Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   Inspections are a total racket set up 
for repair shops.

I used to have to get inspections in Massachusetts and Texas, and they 
would always find something wrong that they could then "repair."  I 
remember once taking the 79TD to get its inspection, and the guy failed 
it for insufficient brake fluid.  I had just filled it the day before, 
having checked the car over for various things I figured they would jump 
on.  The fluid was halfway between "add" and "fill."  So after waiting 
around for an hour, paying the $35, I got into an argument with the shop 
owner (whose daughter went to school with mine, so I figured I'd toss 
him the business).  Of course you can't get reinspected right away, you 
have to come back tomorrow or later and pay some kind of reinspection 
fee, and of course they had scraped off the old sticker which was 
problematic.

Next day I come back with the section printed off the workshop CD, 
showed the guy, told him to give me the damn sticker now, no more 
screwing around, but of course they need to redo the inspection (diesel 
was exempt on the emissions aspect, so it was just a "safety" 
inspection).  So then he finds a wiper was bad and he wants to put a new 
one on for like $15 parts and labor.  Thing was, I had put on a new 
wiper just recently, had the empty package in the back with the receipt, 
so then we got into that.  Finally I decided I would just stand around 
while their bay was taken up, 3 or 4 other cars waiting, I finally 
outlasted him and got the sticker and got out of there.

Nothing he was "finding" compromised safety in any way, but for the 
others who came through and ended up paying more for "repairs" it was 
quite a racket.  Massachusetts was even worse, those guys were vicious 
because they knew there was absolutely nothing you could do about their 
scams.

--FT


On 12/4/18 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Same is true in MD, where one car in 100 passes inspection - even new ones.
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>>> Mitch wrote:
>>> Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
>>> Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
>> No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
>> And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
>> a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.
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Re: [MBZ] Whoo hoo, new wheel bearing

2018-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I had to have both rear wheel bearings on my Jetta replaced within a couple 
months of each other. What is it with mechanics that don't want to replace both 
sides at the same time? I had the same trouble on my '85 190D, one front 
bearing failed, my guy replaced it "Oh they never go bad together." The other 
side failed exactly one week later, I replaced it myself in the driveway, that 
was the day I taught myself to do wheel bearings, buggered the pre-load on that 
one and it didn't last a whole year, did a better job the second time and it 
lasted the year or so I kept the car...
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 10:25:08 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Finally got the new rear wheel bearing in the Golf tonight.  Still have to get 
a new nut soon, all the FLAPS sell the bearing and hub with a card that says 
you don't get a warrenty without a new nut, but don't stock the nut

Still have a lot of tire noise from the cupped inside edge (didn't rotate them 
enough, and I think the bad bearing was part of the issue) but have new tires 
ordered.  Will fix that this weekend when the new tire goes on and I get an 
alignment done.

So nice to drive without the roar of a bad wheel bearing from the left rear 
side!

Not a bad job, had to split the inner race as I couldn't get a puller to grab, 
but the new bearing and hub slid right on after I heated it up a bit.

Will check the other side soon, as I suspect if one is gone the other is on the 
way, car has 188k miles now.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] One For Curley

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is a mate for my trusty rustbucket, but in better condition, except 
for the headlight doors. Same color in the same no clearcoat condition; 
same interior.    I'd take if if someone wants to buy it and mao will 
deliver it.



Dan needs to fly to chit ca go and clean it up!

Its worth $5-600...

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/4/18 4:34 PM:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6764791854.html

Rick



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[MBZ] Whoo hoo, new wheel bearing

2018-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Finally got the new rear wheel bearing in the Golf tonight.  Still have to get 
a new nut soon, all the FLAPS sell the bearing and hub with a card that says 
you don't get a warrenty without a new nut, but don't stock the nut

Still have a lot of tire noise from the cupped inside edge (didn't rotate them 
enough, and I think the bad bearing was part of the issue) but have new tires 
ordered.  Will fix that this weekend when the new tire goes on and I get an 
alignment done.

So nice to drive without the roar of a bad wheel bearing from the left rear 
side!

Not a bad job, had to split the inner race as I couldn't get a puller to grab, 
but the new bearing and hub slid right on after I heated it up a bit.

Will check the other side soon, as I suspect if one is gone the other is on the 
way, car has 188k miles now.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The main issue is that France has insufficient taxes on fossil fuel energy, 
well taxes and wealth redistribution in general, and insufficient social 
programs to promote a more austere lifestyle in keeping with the fight against 
climate change. More socialism, immigration, diversity, lifestyle restrictions, 
and assured benefits for all would be better to achieve the goals. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:27 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> socialist destroy their nations.  Best to smack the leadership a few times so 
> they remember they serve at the pleasure of the citizens, not the other way
> 
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On December 4, 2018 at 12:49 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
>>> macaroni cave for good.
>> 
>> In six months, the weather will be much better for political demonstrations. 
>> If anything, I think he just emboldened the opposition. 
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

CHuck U and nanski both need a good smack.

clay monroe via Mercedes wrote on 12/4/18 7:27 PM:

socialist destroy their nations.  Best to smack the leadership a few times so 
they remember they serve at the pleasure of the citizens, not the other way

clay monroe
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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
The current mental defective leading the State of Washington is planning to try 
to run in 2020.  He wanted a carbon tax, has made a mess of many issues here.  
Just wait until he is able to spread the homeless crisis nationwide.  There may 
be a few municipalities that have homeless.  This dork will make sure there is 
no solutions, just lots of noise and fury signifying nothing.



clay monroe
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> On Dec 4, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:49:15 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> After much of the country revolting against lil Macaroni's "carbon tax" 
>> in france, which cause Benzin to sell for over $7 a gal, today macaroni 
>> went limp and suspended the tax for 6 months.   Macaroni thought he was 
>> "gonna save the world."   All he did was anger the frogs.   As we all 
>> know, the frogs are always the first to surrender, and last to fight,
>> so the fact they stood up to the macaroni tax is pretty incredible.
>> 
>> Buully for the frogs!
>> 
>> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
>> macaroni cave for good.
> 
> From my other list:
> 
> -
> Per French news the riots in France are a struggle between those that do
> not want increased fuel taxes or carbon taxes to those that are fighting
> because they see the end of the world if they do not enact these taxes.
> The left has done a marvelous job at marketing the climate myth and have
> done such a job because of their herd mentality of thought and the power
> of the internet to disseminate the activism worldwide.
> 
> If the next liberal POTUS tries that here in the US I’m sure we are all
> looking at the beginnings of a civil war accompanying heavy migration
> into the US by illegals that already cost US taxpayers $120 billion
> annually in welfare and other services. The makings of a civil war.
> 
> One guy said that politics plays no part in this struggle. He couldn’t be
> further from the truth.
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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
socialist destroy their nations.  Best to smack the leadership a few times so 
they remember they serve at the pleasure of the citizens, not the other way

clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On December 4, 2018 at 12:49 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
>> macaroni cave for good.
> 
> In six months, the weather will be much better for political demonstrations. 
> If anything, I think he just emboldened the opposition. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm really glad that OK stopped the silly inspections. Just as another data
point, I accompanied my daughter when she got her MA inspection after
having lived there a year, and her car passed without an issue - pay the
woman and leave.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Inspections are a total racket set up for repair shops.
>
> I used to have to get inspections in Massachusetts and Texas, and they
> would always find something wrong that they could then "repair."  I
> remember once taking the 79TD to get its inspection, and the guy failed
> it for insufficient brake fluid.  I had just filled it the day before,
> having checked the car over for various things I figured they would jump
> on.  The fluid was halfway between "add" and "fill."  So after waiting
> around for an hour, paying the $35, I got into an argument with the shop
> owner (whose daughter went to school with mine, so I figured I'd toss
> him the business).  Of course you can't get reinspected right away, you
> have to come back tomorrow or later and pay some kind of reinspection
> fee, and of course they had scraped off the old sticker which was
> problematic.
>
> Next day I come back with the section printed off the workshop CD,
> showed the guy, told him to give me the damn sticker now, no more
> screwing around, but of course they need to redo the inspection (diesel
> was exempt on the emissions aspect, so it was just a "safety"
> inspection).  So then he finds a wiper was bad and he wants to put a new
> one on for like $15 parts and labor.  Thing was, I had put on a new
> wiper just recently, had the empty package in the back with the receipt,
> so then we got into that.  Finally I decided I would just stand around
> while their bay was taken up, 3 or 4 other cars waiting, I finally
> outlasted him and got the sticker and got out of there.
>
> Nothing he was "finding" compromised safety in any way, but for the
> others who came through and ended up paying more for "repairs" it was
> quite a racket.  Massachusetts was even worse, those guys were vicious
> because they knew there was absolutely nothing you could do about their
> scams.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 12/4/18 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Same is true in MD, where one car in 100 passes inspection - even new
> ones.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Mitch wrote:
> >>> Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
> >>> Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
> >> No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
> >> And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
> >> a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** 1.86 Benzin

2018-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
E10 was $1.86 here, pure gas $2.03, and Diesel was $2.70 per US gallon.

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> But Alberta has cut production significantly!  Whatever the outcome, sit
> back and enjoy it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:51 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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>
> > Opec is crumbling as kutar pulls out of opec.
> >
> > Today I could buy Benzin for 1.869.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes Lawsuit settled

2018-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We were experiencing at least one felt quake per day, sometimes four or
five, for a couple of years. Once the government put a hold on the use of
the three or four disposal wells in the area, the quakes stopped within a
few weeks. It's been at least a year since they stopped, and we've only
felt perhaps 4 or 5 since. Not proof, but very suspicious.
I read that the idea that the lubrication is releasing energy that might
have resulted in a much larger quake is false, that the lube actually
increases the likelihood of larger quakes - some geologist somewhere (it's
been too many years ago).
I'm for the banning of waste water disposal wells - there are other ways to
handle it, including cleaning it for re-use. They just cost more.

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> It's theoretically possible they could trigger an earthquake, but I'm
> pretty sure they can't cause one. And if they triggered it early, wouldn't
> that reduce the severity?
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On December 4, 2018 at 9:51 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 3 oil companies agree to settle Okla. lawsuitPublished: Tuesday, December
> > 4, 2018
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Yes the older Saturns were remarkably good cars. They feel cheap as hell but 
they just keep ticking. Kari’s has about 155K and she’s changed the oil 
religiously every 3K miles since new. She wants to get a few years old BMW X3 
and will probably just keep the Saturn which will then do winter duty to spare 
my 240D.

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> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On December 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes she bought it new in 2002. Her first car which has proven to be quite 
>> reliable. She’s looking to upgrade now.
> 
> My '07 Ion only has 219k on the odo. That'll fix her up for another five 
> years. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] One For Curley

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oh boy. Probably a horror show.

On Dec 4, 2018 5:35 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6764791854.html
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Indiana had “safety” inspections annually some years ago.  A sticker/inspection 
was $4.00, and it had to be done by a licensed mechanic.

If you were lucky and knew someone you could pretty much just hand them the $4 
and walk out with your sticker.  The alternate to that was going in and getting 
some jerk who would find every little thing you could think of wrong with the 
car, wanting to screw you over for the repairs and send you on your way.  If 
you challenged them they would refuse the inspection and you’re stuck with a 
writeup that you have 30 days to correct, or else.

I just know I got my chops busted by a guy when I was in high school and he 
wrote a complete novel on my car, which happened to be in pretty good shape.  I 
showed it to my Dad along with the estimate for the repairs and he tore both of 
them up.  I believe I went somewhere else and got it passed.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Inspections are a total racket set up for repair shops.
> 
> I used to have to get inspections in Massachusetts and Texas, and they would 
> always find something wrong that they could then "repair."  I remember once 
> taking the 79TD to get its inspection, and the guy failed it for insufficient 
> brake fluid.  I had just filled it the day before, having checked the car 
> over for various things I figured they would jump on.  The fluid was halfway 
> between "add" and "fill."  So after waiting around for an hour, paying the 
> $35, I got into an argument with the shop owner (whose daughter went to 
> school with mine, so I figured I'd toss him the business).  Of course you 
> can't get reinspected right away, you have to come back tomorrow or later and 
> pay some kind of reinspection fee, and of course they had scraped off the old 
> sticker which was problematic.
> 
> Next day I come back with the section printed off the workshop CD, showed the 
> guy, told him to give me the damn sticker now, no more screwing around, but 
> of course they need to redo the inspection (diesel was exempt on the 
> emissions aspect, so it was just a "safety" inspection).  So then he finds a 
> wiper was bad and he wants to put a new one on for like $15 parts and labor.  
> Thing was, I had put on a new wiper just recently, had the empty package in 
> the back with the receipt, so then we got into that.  Finally I decided I 
> would just stand around while their bay was taken up, 3 or 4 other cars 
> waiting, I finally outlasted him and got the sticker and got out of there.
> 
> Nothing he was "finding" compromised safety in any way, but for the others 
> who came through and ended up paying more for "repairs" it was quite a 
> racket.  Massachusetts was even worse, those guys were vicious because they 
> knew there was absolutely nothing you could do about their scams.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 12/4/18 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Same is true in MD, where one car in 100 passes inspection - even new ones.
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
 Mitch wrote:
 Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
 Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
>>> No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
>>> And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
>>> a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.
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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:49:15 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> After much of the country revolting against lil Macaroni's "carbon tax" 
> in france, which cause Benzin to sell for over $7 a gal, today macaroni 
> went limp and suspended the tax for 6 months.   Macaroni thought he was 
> "gonna save the world."   All he did was anger the frogs.   As we all 
> know, the frogs are always the first to surrender, and last to fight,
> so the fact they stood up to the macaroni tax is pretty incredible.
> 
> Buully for the frogs!
> 
> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
> macaroni cave for good.

From my other list:

-
Per French news the riots in France are a struggle between those that do
not want increased fuel taxes or carbon taxes to those that are fighting
because they see the end of the world if they do not enact these taxes.
The left has done a marvelous job at marketing the climate myth and have
done such a job because of their herd mentality of thought and the power
of the internet to disseminate the activism worldwide.

If the next liberal POTUS tries that here in the US I’m sure we are all
looking at the beginnings of a civil war accompanying heavy migration
into the US by illegals that already cost US taxpayers $120 billion
annually in welfare and other services. The makings of a civil war.

One guy said that politics plays no part in this struggle. He couldn’t be
further from the truth.
-


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Battery light

2018-12-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 14:03:16 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Cranked up the SDL after a year hiatus.  Started right up, but battery 
> light stays on, even with switch off (engine stopped) and key out.   I 
> think that is indicating a bad diode in the alt.   Time for a new
> alternator
> 
> Anyone know of any other conclusion, or want to confirm this diagnosis?

She's dead, Jim.

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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validate

2018-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I hydrolocked my '81 300TD like that once. If you idled it for 10 minutes in 
the cold it would disappear in a cloud of fog...
Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   In  my 1979 Subaru, water mysteriously 
disappeared so I just topped it off weekly.
Then one day it wouldn't crank after I'd parked it for a month. I pulled out 
the spark plugs and one of the cylinders shot water far over the fender when I 
cranked it. 

On My dad's 4.3L Diesel Cutlass Ciera, the overflow tank kept turning black but 
it never needed coolant and the oil never showed signs of water. 

Mitch. 

> On December 4, 2018 at 9:51 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> At high speeds the vacuum in the cylinder(s) is sucking it out.  At least 
> that’s what’s suggested in a number of places I saw references to the 
> problem.  However, I find this a bit weird, since if the head gasket is 
> failing I would expect pressure to escape as well, meaning your cooling 
> system would be pressurized and you would see some signs of oil or combustion 
> gasses in the coolant as well.

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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I

2018-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've talked to a Subaru mechanic who told me he just replaces them as a matter 
of course on all cars...

Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   Can't be. 
We specifically told Bob NOT to buy a Subaru with a blown head gasket. 

Mitch. 


> On December 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Check the oil...
> This sounds like a head gasket to me, it's similar to what my '78 240D would 
> do when it had gone bad.

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[MBZ] One For Curley

2018-12-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6764791854.html

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Pensacola

2018-12-04 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-D wrote:
> Dad was a mover and shaker in the R party at the time...

Did mover and shaker include satanic ritual child prosecution, etc as
is heard in DC today everywhere?
Q sent me.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

+1

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/4/18 2:03 PM:

Inspections are a total racket set up for repair shops.




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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Inspections are a total racket set up for repair shops.

I used to have to get inspections in Massachusetts and Texas, and they 
would always find something wrong that they could then "repair."  I 
remember once taking the 79TD to get its inspection, and the guy failed 
it for insufficient brake fluid.  I had just filled it the day before, 
having checked the car over for various things I figured they would jump 
on.  The fluid was halfway between "add" and "fill."  So after waiting 
around for an hour, paying the $35, I got into an argument with the shop 
owner (whose daughter went to school with mine, so I figured I'd toss 
him the business).  Of course you can't get reinspected right away, you 
have to come back tomorrow or later and pay some kind of reinspection 
fee, and of course they had scraped off the old sticker which was 
problematic.


Next day I come back with the section printed off the workshop CD, 
showed the guy, told him to give me the damn sticker now, no more 
screwing around, but of course they need to redo the inspection (diesel 
was exempt on the emissions aspect, so it was just a "safety" 
inspection).  So then he finds a wiper was bad and he wants to put a new 
one on for like $15 parts and labor.  Thing was, I had put on a new 
wiper just recently, had the empty package in the back with the receipt, 
so then we got into that.  Finally I decided I would just stand around 
while their bay was taken up, 3 or 4 other cars waiting, I finally 
outlasted him and got the sticker and got out of there.


Nothing he was "finding" compromised safety in any way, but for the 
others who came through and ended up paying more for "repairs" it was 
quite a racket.  Massachusetts was even worse, those guys were vicious 
because they knew there was absolutely nothing you could do about their 
scams.


--FT


On 12/4/18 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Same is true in MD, where one car in 100 passes inspection - even new ones.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:


Mitch wrote:
Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???

No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.

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[MBZ] Battery light

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Cranked up the SDL after a year hiatus.  Started right up, but battery 
light stays on, even with switch off (engine stopped) and key out.   I 
think that is indicating a bad diode in the alt.   Time for a new alternator


Anyone know of any other conclusion, or want to confirm this diagnosis?

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[MBZ] Anyone have any experience with this outfit?

2018-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Mentioned in this thread

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1409559-best-source-mercedes-benz-r129-sl-8.html

Looks like this product can be downloaded

https://www.emanualonline.com/Cars/Mercedes/SL_Class/1995-Mercedes_Benz-SL600-Service-%252526-Repair-Manual-Software.html

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** 1.86 Benzin

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But Alberta has cut production significantly!  Whatever the outcome, sit
back and enjoy it.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:51 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Opec is crumbling as kutar pulls out of opec.
>
> Today I could buy Benzin for 1.869.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Same is true in MD, where one car in 100 passes inspection - even new ones.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Mitch wrote:
>
> > Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
> > Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???
>
> No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
> And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
> a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes Lawsuit settled

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've not experienced this but ask Kaleb or OK Don.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:51 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's theoretically possible they could trigger an earthquake, but I'm
> pretty sure they can't cause one. And if they triggered it early, wouldn't
> that reduce the severity?
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On December 4, 2018 at 9:51 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 3 oil companies agree to settle Okla. lawsuitPublished: Tuesday, December
> > 4, 2018
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
60-70k miles, roughly.
And 19 years is considerably more than 6.


Rick

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> On December 4, 2018 at 9:39 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I am not sure of the maintenance interval on the Sub timing belt. The belt 
> was a Mitsuboshi (not Mitsubishi) and I believe it was factory.

I think that Aussie indy link I found had 100kkm-125kkm or 5-6 years.
90kmi would be more than 125kkm...

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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It was quite humorous that the rioters were chanting, I presume in 
frogspeak, "We want Trump!"


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/4/18 12:22 PM:

On December 4, 2018 at 12:49 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:


We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil
macaroni cave for good.

In six months, the weather will be much better for political demonstrations.
If anything, I think he just emboldened the opposition.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So you're one third as wealthy as Warren Buffet?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 1:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The eagle has flown.
>
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:
> > Michael Esh
> > 220 Robinwood Drive
> > Whitehall, MI 49461
> >
> > Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a
> look and send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look
> "used" and one that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or
> pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123
> stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!
> >>
> >> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:
> >>> Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you
> still have my address?
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

The eagle has flown.

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
Thanks.



On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and send what 
you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one that looks 
new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 
stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 4, 2018 at 12:49 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
> macaroni cave for good.

In six months, the weather will be much better for political demonstrations. 
If anything, I think he just emboldened the opposition. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
French military is in deep trouble the only factory in France that
makes white flags burned down..

Ever wonder why all the major boulevards in France are lined with
trees. So invading armies don't have to march in the hot sun...

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> After much of the country revolting against lil Macaroni's "carbon tax"
> in france, which cause Benzin to sell for over $7 a gal, today macaroni
> went limp and suspended the tax for 6 months.   Macaroni thought he was
> "gonna save the world."   All he did was anger the frogs.   As we all
> know, the frogs are always the first to surrender, and last to fight, so
> the fact they stood up to the macaroni tax is pretty incredible.
>
> Buully for the frogs!
>
> We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil
> macaroni cave for good.
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Re: [MBZ] Guaranteed to go 1 million miles

2018-12-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitch wrote:

> Just passed state inspection and is good for another 60 days...
> Missouri charges you to inspect your car every other month???

No.  But a "current" inspection is required to get new plates.
And an inspection is considered current for 60 days.  If it's not
a new acquisition, then the inspection is every two years.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** 1.86 Benzin

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Opec is crumbling as kutar pulls out of opec.

Today I could buy Benzin for 1.869.



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[MBZ] Macaroni caves

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
After much of the country revolting against lil Macaroni's "carbon tax" 
in france, which cause Benzin to sell for over $7 a gal, today macaroni 
went limp and suspended the tax for 6 months.   Macaroni thought he was 
"gonna save the world."   All he did was anger the frogs.   As we all 
know, the frogs are always the first to surrender, and last to fight, so 
the fact they stood up to the macaroni tax is pretty incredible.


Buully for the frogs!

We can only hope the frogs will stand up again in 6 months and make lil 
macaroni cave for good.


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
You’ve heard the term “one percenters”?

Do the math.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Not sure what that means. 3% of what?  Is that your tax bracket?
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:57 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> One very good job.  A 3%er job.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > And how many jobs?
>> > 
>> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>> >> 
>> >> -D
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> OK, here you go:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> >> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> >> >> parts guy, to which I said:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> >> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> >> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
>> >> > 
>> >> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money 
>> >> > annually?
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Craig
>> >> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Thanks. 
The article I read said it was blue food coloring in the candy that did it. 
If it wasn't the cotton candy that's the color of Blue Ice, the police mistake 
would be more understandable. 

What's absolutely not understandable or excusable is her spending more than 24 
hours in jail after they got the official lab results.

And then you've got the whole 4th Amendment issue where it appears they had 
zero probable cause to suspect it was illegal in the first place, unless the 
idiot volunteered her cotton candy for testing. 

Actually, voluntary seizure is probably what happened now that I think about 
it. I bet she doesn't do that again. 
"What's in the bag, drugs?"
"It's just cotton candy"
"Then you won't mind if we check it"
"Get a warrant"
Being rude to a "public servant" is better than spending 3 months in jail. 
Mitch. 

> On December 4, 2018 at 9:04 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, all I know is what the local Atlanta station reported.  The kits have 
> come under criticism in other states for their lack of reliability.  And from 
> the TV clip from the officer's camera, the candy was pink, not blue.

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Re: [MBZ] What's with BenzWorld

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
This looks like what you want.
I use the site:benzworld.org search filter on Goolag. 
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abenzworld.org+SL600+spheres

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 4, 2018 at 9:39 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not sure of the maintenance interval on the Sub timing belt. The belt 
> was a Mitsuboshi (not Mitsubishi) and I believe it was factory.

I think that Aussie indy link I found had 100kkm-125kkm or 5-6 years. 
90kmi would be more than 125kkm...

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I like Girls

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
In  my 1979 Subaru, water mysteriously disappeared so I just topped it off 
weekly.
Then one day it wouldn't crank after I'd parked it for a month. I pulled out 
the spark plugs and one of the cylinders shot water far over the fender when I 
cranked it. 

On My dad's 4.3L Diesel Cutlass Ciera, the overflow tank kept turning black but 
it never needed coolant and the oil never showed signs of water. 

Mitch. 

> On December 4, 2018 at 9:51 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> At high speeds the vacuum in the cylinder(s) is sucking it out.  At least 
> that’s what’s suggested in a number of places I saw references to the 
> problem.  However, I find this a bit weird, since if the head gasket is 
> failing I would expect pressure to escape as well, meaning your cooling 
> system would be pressurized and you would see some signs of oil or combustion 
> gasses in the coolant as well.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes Lawsuit settled

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
It's theoretically possible they could trigger an earthquake, but I'm pretty 
sure they can't cause one. And if they triggered it early, wouldn't that reduce 
the severity?

Mitch.
 
> On December 4, 2018 at 9:51 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 3 oil companies agree to settle Okla. lawsuitPublished: Tuesday, December
> 4, 2018
>

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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Every used Mercedes should come with a free hammer.

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> That list of improvements deserves a couple of Attaboys.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> > On December 4, 2018 at 12:20 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick!
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not sure what that means. 3% of what?  Is that your tax bracket?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:57 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> One very good job.  A 3%er job.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > And how many jobs?
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> At the time I averaged 3-4.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> OK, here you go:
> >> >>
> >> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> >> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a
> wholesale
> >> >> parts guy, to which I said:
> >> >>
> >> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would
> like
> >> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> >> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> >> >
> >> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money
> annually?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Craig
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Can't be. 
We specifically told Bob NOT to buy a Subaru with a blown head gasket. 

Mitch. 


> On December 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Check the oil...
> This sounds like a head gasket to me, it's similar to what my '78 240D would 
> do when it had gone bad.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
One very good job.  A 3%er job.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> And how many jobs?
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> >> OK, here you go:
>> >> 
>> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> >> parts guy, to which I said:
>> >> 
>> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
>> > 
>> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Craig
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I

2018-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Check the oil...
This sounds like a head gasket to me, it's similar to what my '78 240D would do 
when it had gone bad.

Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback 
and I’ve been struggling a little with the cooling system. When I bought it 
from a 23 year old dude called Warren, the coolant was barely in the filler 
neck and the reservoir was empty. On the test drive I heard the water sloshing 
sound behind the dash which I reckoned was a poorly filled and vented/burped 
system. 
I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the filler 
neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the correct level. 
Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took off on my 40 miles 
freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 78. Temp held perfect. 
When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost hot. I 
shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon starting, was at 
the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped to almost normal. I 
drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half and 3/4 temp. 
Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the neck 
and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and drove home 
on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many stop signs) and 
temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit and it was in the 
neck but none in the reservoir. (Oh, and there are no leaks anywhere)  So I 
place the reservoir at the correct level and proceeded to drive it for two 
days...around town and two 25 mile trips on the freeway and temps and levels 
stayed perfect. 
I checked level last night and the levels were perfect. Drove on the freeway to 
work this morning and, when I slowed down to exit, it got hot. Shit. 
I let it cool off and drove it the last 8 miles in.  I checked level when I got 
to the parking lot, and the reservoir is FULL. Jeez. WTF. 

Bob R


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[MBZ] OK Earthquakes Lawsuit settled

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
3 oil companies agree to settle Okla. lawsuitPublished: Tuesday, December
4, 2018

Three oil companies have reached a settlement with plaintiffs in a
class-action lawsuit over damaging earthquakes in central Oklahoma.

The companies — Spess Oil Co., Equal Energy US Inc., and Fairfield Oil and
Gas Corp. — have not admitted to any liability but have agreed to put
$925,000 into a settlement fund. The lawsuit argues that saltwater disposal
well operations led to 2011 earthquakes near the Oklahoma town of Prague.

Attorneys say the fund is subject to court approval, and a January hearing
is scheduled to consider approval of the settlement.

Another defendant, New Dominion LLC, is not included in the agreement. The
plaintiffs' attorney, Scott Poynter, says the company is pursuing an appeal
before the Supreme Court of Oklahoma. *— Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I like Girls

2018-12-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
At high speeds the vacuum in the cylinder(s) is sucking it out.  At least 
that’s what’s suggested in a number of places I saw references to the problem.  
However, I find this a bit weird, since if the head gasket is failing I would 
expect pressure to escape as well, meaning your cooling system would be 
pressurized and you would see some signs of oil or combustion gasses in the 
coolant as well.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s a 2.5. I smelled a little coolant smell this morning when I made it to 
> the parking lot but I attributed that to the FULL reservoir. 
> 
> How does one test for this because I see no visible indications of leaking or 
> weeping. 
> 
> Bob R 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You don’t say what engine is in the car, but the 2.5 liter engines are known 
>> for head gasket leaks that only manifest themselves at highway speeds.
>> 
>> After a highway run and a low reservoir I would be sniffing the exhaust for 
>> coolant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback and I’ve been struggling a little with 
>>> the cooling system. When I bought it from a 23 year old dude called Warren, 
>>> the coolant was barely in the filler neck and the reservoir was empty. On 
>>> the test drive I heard the water sloshing sound behind the dash which I 
>>> reckoned was a poorly filled and vented/burped system. 
>>> I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
>>> sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the 
>>> filler neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the 
>>> correct level. Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took 
>>> off on my 40 miles freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 
>>> 78. Temp held perfect. 
>>> When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost 
>>> hot. I shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon 
>>> starting, was at the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped 
>>> to almost normal. I drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half 
>>> and 3/4 temp. 
>>> Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the 
>>> neck and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and 
>>> drove home on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many 
>>> stop signs) and temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit 
>>> and it was in the neck but none in the reservoir. (Oh, and there are no 
>>> leaks anywhere)  So I place the reservoir at the correct level and 
>>> proceeded to drive it for two days...around town and two 25 mile trips on 
>>> the freeway and tIt’s a 2.5. I smelled a little coolant smell this morning 
>>> when I made it to the parking lot but I attributed that to the FULL 
>>> reservoir. 
> 
> How does one test for this because I see no visible indications of leaking or 
> weeping. 
> 
> Bob R 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You don’t say what engine is in the car, but the 2.5 liter engines are known 
>> for head gasket leaks that only manifest themselves at highway speeds.
>> 
>> After a highway run and a low reservoir I would be sniffing the exhaust for 
>> coolant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback and I’ve been struggling a little with 
>>> the cooling system. When I bought it from a 23 year old dude called Warren, 
>>> the coolant was barely in the filler neck and the reservoir was empty. On 
>>> the test drive I heard the water sloshing sound behind the dash which I 
>>> reckoned was a poorly filled and vented/burped system. 
>>> I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
>>> sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the 
>>> filler neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the 
>>> correct level. Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took 
>>> off on my 40 miles freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 
>>> 78. Temp held perfect. 
>>> When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost 
>>> hot. I shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon 
>>> starting, was at the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped 
>>> to almost normal. I drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half 
>>> and 3/4 temp. 
>>> Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the 
>>> neck and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and 
>>> drove home on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many 
>>> stop signs) and temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit 
>>> and 

Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
As rare as the famous strasfogel transmission.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:38 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Is this the rare zundfogel engine?
>
> --FT
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> > Is it 1-2-3 down the right bank then 4-5-6 on the left?
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And how many jobs?

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> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> OK, here you go:
> >>
> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
> >> parts guy, to which I said:
> >>
> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> >
> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] W126 300SD on BAT

2018-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But is that enough to justify the final auction price?

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> Whole rear suspension looked like new parts, including the lower control
> arms,
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 5:39 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>
> > Nice color but still sold for stupid money.
> > .
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I am not sure of the maintenance interval on the Sub timing belt. The belt was 
a Mitsuboshi (not Mitsubishi) and I believe it was factory.


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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I like Girls

2018-12-04 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
It’s a 2.5. I smelled a little coolant smell this morning when I made it to the 
parking lot but I attributed that to the FULL reservoir. 

How does one test for this because I see no visible indications of leaking or 
weeping. 

Bob R 

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> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> You don’t say what engine is in the car, but the 2.5 liter engines are known 
> for head gasket leaks that only manifest themselves at highway speeds.
> 
> After a highway run and a low reservoir I would be sniffing the exhaust for 
> coolant.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback and I’ve been struggling a little with 
>> the cooling system. When I bought it from a 23 year old dude called Warren, 
>> the coolant was barely in the filler neck and the reservoir was empty. On 
>> the test drive I heard the water sloshing sound behind the dash which I 
>> reckoned was a poorly filled and vented/burped system. 
>> I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
>> sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the 
>> filler neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the 
>> correct level. Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took 
>> off on my 40 miles freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 
>> 78. Temp held perfect. 
>> When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost hot. 
>> I shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon starting, 
>> was at the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped to almost 
>> normal. I drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half and 3/4 
>> temp. 
>> Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the 
>> neck and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and 
>> drove home on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many stop 
>> signs) and temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit and it 
>> was in the neck but none in the reservoir. (Oh, and there are no leaks 
>> anywhere)  So I place the reservoir at the correct level and proceeded to 
>> drive it for two days...around town and two 25 mile trips on the freeway and 
>> temps and levels stayed perfect. 
>> I checked level last night and the levels were perfect. Drove on the freeway 
>> to work this morning and, when I slowed down to exit, it got hot. Shit. 
>> I let it cool off and drove it the last 8 miles in.  I checked level when I 
>> got to the parking lot, and the reservoir is FULL. Jeez. WTF. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What's with BenzWorld

2018-12-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
If you have a limited number of posts you might not be able to see everything. 
I know there are some restrictions placed on new members for stuff like this.

Their search feature has been hosed for some time. It seems to work now, but 
you can accomplish the same thing in the Google by using search terms like 
“BenzWorld R129 suspension sphere” or something to that effect.  Just do a 
google and include “Benzworld” and the chassis number and it will search their 
forums for you.

PM me your user name. I’ll check with a buddy who is a mod that might be able 
to lift any limits on your account.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do I need to have some superdooper subscription to be able to search the 
> forums?  I see reference to a repair "manual" for the rear spheres on the 
> R129 (SL600) in a thread about it, which says to search for it, but can't 
> search for it.
> 
> *RichDiesel*, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be 
> due to one of several reasons:
> 
> 1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this
>   page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access
>   administrative features or some other privileged system?
> 2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your
>   account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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[MBZ] What's with BenzWorld

2018-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Do I need to have some superdooper subscription to be able to search the 
forums?  I see reference to a repair "manual" for the rear spheres on 
the R129 (SL600) in a thread about it, which says to search for it, but 
can't search for it.


*RichDiesel*, you do not have permission to access this page. This could 
be due to one of several reasons:


1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this
   page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access
   administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your
   account, or it may be awaiting activation.


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Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I like Girls

2018-12-04 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
You don’t say what engine is in the car, but the 2.5 liter engines are known 
for head gasket leaks that only manifest themselves at highway speeds.

After a highway run and a low reservoir I would be sniffing the exhaust for 
coolant.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback and I’ve been struggling a little with 
> the cooling system. When I bought it from a 23 year old dude called Warren, 
> the coolant was barely in the filler neck and the reservoir was empty. On the 
> test drive I heard the water sloshing sound behind the dash which I reckoned 
> was a poorly filled and vented/burped system. 
> I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
> sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the 
> filler neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the 
> correct level. Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took 
> off on my 40 miles freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 78. 
> Temp held perfect. 
> When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost hot. 
> I shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon starting, was 
> at the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped to almost 
> normal. I drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half and 3/4 
> temp. 
> Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the neck 
> and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and drove 
> home on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many stop signs) 
> and temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit and it was in 
> the neck but none in the reservoir. (Oh, and there are no leaks anywhere)  So 
> I place the reservoir at the correct level and proceeded to drive it for two 
> days...around town and two 25 mile trips on the freeway and temps and levels 
> stayed perfect. 
> I checked level last night and the levels were perfect. Drove on the freeway 
> to work this morning and, when I slowed down to exit, it got hot. Shit. 
> I let it cool off and drove it the last 8 miles in.  I checked level when I 
> got to the parking lot, and the reservoir is FULL. Jeez. WTF. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

2018-12-04 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Well, all I know is what the local Atlanta station reported.  The kits have 
come under criticism in other states for their lack of reliability.  And from 
the TV clip from the officer's camera, the candy was pink, not blue.  But then 
my eyes may not be what they used to be.  My point is that if you intend to put 
someone in jail, the police should be at least close to 100% certain they have 
the right person.  Otherwise, let them go.  This woman couldn't afford the bail 
so she stayed in jail.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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[MBZ] Cooling System Question on a Vehicle that validates I like Girls

2018-12-04 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’ve been sorting this 2004 Outback and I’ve been struggling a little with the 
cooling system. When I bought it from a 23 year old dude called Warren, the 
coolant was barely in the filler neck and the reservoir was empty. On the test 
drive I heard the water sloshing sound behind the dash which I reckoned was a 
poorly filled and vented/burped system. 
I drove it 23 miles home, thru town, temp remained perfect but I could hear 
sloshy slosh periodically. When I got home the coolant was still in the filler 
neck and the reservoir was empty. I filled the reservoir to the correct level. 
Next morning, levels good, still heard sloshyness and I took off on my 40 miles 
freeway drive to the old nuke plant. Set the cruise to 78. Temp held perfect. 
When I went off the cruise in preps to exit, the temp climbed to almost hot. I 
shut it off to be safe. I let it sit for 15 minutes and, upon starting, was at 
the hot hash mark (not red) but, in 10 seconds, it dropped to almost normal. I 
drove the last 8 miles with it fluctuating between half and 3/4 temp. 
Came out 10 hours later to drive home and checked level...coolant in the neck 
and none in the reservoir. Placed the reservoir at correct level and drove home 
on the back roads (top speed 60, lots of speed changes, many stop signs) and 
temp never moved off of half. Checked level post CrossFit and it was in the 
neck but none in the reservoir. (Oh, and there are no leaks anywhere)  So I 
place the reservoir at the correct level and proceeded to drive it for two 
days...around town and two 25 mile trips on the freeway and temps and levels 
stayed perfect. 
I checked level last night and the levels were perfect. Drove on the freeway to 
work this morning and, when I slowed down to exit, it got hot. Shit. 
I let it cool off and drove it the last 8 miles in.  I checked level when I got 
to the parking lot, and the reservoir is FULL. Jeez. WTF. 

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 4, 2018 at 12:44 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mitch inquires:
> 
> >Bearing failure or maintenance failure?
> 
> Bearing failure. It has 92k miles, so I suspect that it sat for some time.


Subaru recommends belt replacement and bearing inspection. So I guess it's not 
maintenance failure unless the belt is original. 

Most indys recommend you replace it all, because the fact the bearing feels 
smooth after one belt doesn't mean it will last through the second belt change 
interval.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That list of improvements deserves a couple of Attaboys. 

Mitch. 


> On December 4, 2018 at 12:20 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick!

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Re: [MBZ] Subaru

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Word to the wise:  replace the idler when you replace the stupid 
cheapa$$ timing belt.


I was told that when I got my first VW Wabbit (with a trashed head 
because the stupid cheapa$$ timing belt broke)


Same advise for serp belts, especially if you travel in not so good 
areas (or freeways in big cities, but That is being redundant)


Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:44 PM:

Mitch inquires:


Bearing failure or maintenance failure?

Bearing failure. It has 92k miles, so I suspect that it sat for some time.


Rick




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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You still need to buy and install a reman or new starter.  Strong 
work on the rest.


I carry about 29-30" of half inch copper pipe in the 240D.   It works to 
whack the solenoid, and also to jump the solenoid.


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:20 PM:

Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick! Fired
right up. Man the new brakes are awesome. Of course the claw on the hammer
pulled the transmission and vacuum shutoff lines off the injection pump, so
after I drove the front end up on the leaning towers of lumber pyramid
scheme, it wouldnt shut off.

Headlight bulb is now out on the left side, and my glass is all pitted
anyway. I thought I had new hella lenses coming from Latvia but apparently
they want a bank transfer or something.

Passenger seat is all recovered after epic sessions with the instrument
panel removal tool and a million little white clips. Just need to cut some
holes in the cover for headrest and arm rest, which has me measuring twice
and cutting once. I will drop this seat onto the drivers side adjuster,
then pull my old drivers seat to swap the non memory motors into sportline
frame #2

I got a seat heater harness out of Russia, so that will have to go in
sometime with a new console wood.

Water to air setup is pretty much together. It will get welded into the
intake after some creative amputation with the table saw. I am trying to
find some thin little curved radiators to fit under the bumper cover. The
yzf1000r radiators are the only curved ones I know of, but they are curved
a bit too much I think. No air to air as I am keeping the ac.

Got some sportline rear shocks out of the fatherland. There were only 3
left. Tried to find the Sachs part number but nothing listed. I think it
was discontinued long ago. The regular s124 ones are still obtainable from
Sachs in a couple of flavors fyi.

Oh yes and the air no longer blows hot for some reason. Need to sort that
out.

Joys of old car ownership. At least the s123 is fully sorted. Man that
thing is just nice. They should all get the new steering box, new head, new
turbo and new transmission treatment. About the only things not new are the
halfshafts and rear subframe bushings. Maybe a 15" wheel upgrade and Gen 2
126 brakes would be nice.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in about the w124 no start. Thinking of
replacing the neutral safety switch on general principal. Bushings are
quite loose.

On Dec 3, 2018 7:30 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

You’re really limited on this car as to what the problem can be:

Battery (not)
Neutral safety switch (not)
Solenoid
Starter

Get a piece of wood, long ratchet extension or baseball bat and give the
starter and solenoid a good 2-3 smacks, real hard.

I’m betting the solenoid is stuck or hung up.  once this brute force
approach frees it up, order a rebuilt started from a trusted supplier.


-D




On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Thanks I tried it with a half inch ratchet, but no go. It has to be the
solenoid since it doesnt even click.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 7:41 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I've experienced starters with "dead spots" or stuck brushes.  Try
whacking it a couple times with a hammer.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 8:30 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

Shorting the pins at the terminal block does nothing. I jumped the car

also, and

the behavior did not change. I did note that shifting the car into and

out of

park and neutral while the switch is in the start position caused

dimming of all

the dash lights, implying a short in the system and also implying that

the

neutral safety switch is operating correctly.





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Re: [MBZ] M112 cylinder numbering

2018-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Is this the rare zundfogel engine?

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> Is it 1-2-3 down the right bank then 4-5-6 on the left?
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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo!  Now add "new solenoid" or new starter to your shopping list.  You
may be able to get more life from this starter / solenoid by disassembly
and cleaning (note that the solenoid inner workings don't get grease or
oil, they are supposed to be dry).

Bosch makes the solenoids, they can be sourced separately.  I found one
online, it was billed as a BMW part and had the wrong terminal (male blade
for a push-on connection) but I was able to make it work with some creative
solution.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:21 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick! Fired
> right up.
>
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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
>
> ATTABOY!  :)


-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td

2018-12-04 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Finally got a hammer down there to bang on it. That did the trick. Fired
right up. Of course the claw on the hammer pulled the transmission and
vacuum shutoff lines off the injection pump, so after I drove the front end
up on the leaning towers of lumber pyramid scheme in preparation for
starter removal, it wouldnt shut off...

Man the new brakes are awesome. I can absolutely recommend the dual
diaphragm r129 booster, 500e master cylinder, 500e aluminum fronts and
600sl rears. The car had late model wagon calipers and stock 87 booster on
it before, 294mm dual piston ate fronts.  These new are the biggest that
will fit under a 16" r129 wheel, with 300mm rotors. I was worried my el
cheapo stoptech cryo rotors would have some terrible stopping properties,
and the old single booster required serious leg muscles, so I wasnt sure if
I had a pad and rotor issue or a pressure issue, but it turned out to be
the latter. The car stops RIGHT NOW but still has modulation. I havent
pushed it to fade again yet, but its nice to know I can put my wife in it
and have it behave like her bmw x5d with m brakes used to - before it died
at 8000 miles. I guess it stopped better than it went also! Epidemic.

Headlight bulb is now out on the left side, and my glass is all pitted
anyway. I thought I had new hella lenses coming from Latvia but apparently
they want a bank transfer or something. Tempted by LED retrofit bulbs, but
I have no idea what the pattern is on those. Do they blind oncoming
traffic? What would Daniel Stern do...

Got 2 of the last 3 w124 sportline hydroshocks aus der faterland. Maybe
should have purchased the spare also. I wonder if sachs will rebuild them
in a pinch?

Also lubed the brake pedal so it no longer squeaks at the pin and threw in
a new brake light switch.

I agree with whoever said w123 cars just keep going. Hope same is true for
this one once it is all sorted out.

Next up: starter, then subframe bushings for everything. Does anyone know
how to tell a worn subframe bushing by looking at it? I have a v8 subframe
to swap in and the bushings all look pretty new. Prob best to swap on
general principle.

On Dec 3, 2018 7:30 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

You’re really limited on this car as to what the problem can be:

Battery (not)
Neutral safety switch (not)
Solenoid
Starter

Get a piece of wood, long ratchet extension or baseball bat and give the
starter and solenoid a good 2-3 smacks, real hard.

I’m betting the solenoid is stuck or hung up.  once this brute force
approach frees it up, order a rebuilt started from a trusted supplier.


-D



> On Dec 3, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks I tried it with a half inch ratchet, but no go. It has to be the
> solenoid since it doesnt even click.
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 7:41 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>
>> I've experienced starters with "dead spots" or stuck brushes.  Try
>> whacking it a couple times with a hammer.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Karl
>>> Wittnebel via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 8:30 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
>>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] no cranky 87 td
>>>
>>> Shorting the pins at the terminal block does nothing. I jumped the car
>> also, and
>>> the behavior did not change. I did note that shifting the car into and
>> out of
>>> park and neutral while the switch is in the start position caused
>> dimming of all
>>> the dash lights, implying a short in the system and also implying that
>> the
>>> neutral safety switch is operating correctly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

2018-12-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
At the time I averaged 3-4.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> OK, here you go:
>> 
>> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> parts guy, to which I said:
>> 
>> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> 
> How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
> 
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> Craig
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