Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

2018-12-13 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>
> Velour?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
Well, read the book.


Rick

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Couldn’t have happened under the previous administration, she was a journalist 
and they are off limits

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 11:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> She also wrote a book about her ordeal with getting her computer hacked by 
> three letter agencies in the government.
> It's free for reading if you have a Kindle and a prime account.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-Obstruction-Intimidation-Harassment-Washington-ebook/dp/B00HLIYWA8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8=1544761279=8-2=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=sharyl+attkisson
>
>
>
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Couldn’t have happened under the previous administration, she was a journalist 
and they are off limits 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 11:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> She also wrote a book about her ordeal with getting her computer hacked by 
> three letter agencies in the government.
> It's free for reading if you have a Kindle and a prime account.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-Obstruction-Intimidation-Harassment-Washington-ebook/dp/B00HLIYWA8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8=1544761279=8-2=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=sharyl+attkisson
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
"Here at the Ministry of Propaganda, we can't have people spreading the 
truth!"


Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/13/18 10:27 PM:

She also wrote a book about her ordeal with getting her computer hacked by 
three letter agencies in the government.
It's free for reading if you have a Kindle and a prime account.

https://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-Obstruction-Intimidation-Harassment-Washington-ebook/dp/B00HLIYWA8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8=1544761279=8-2=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=sharyl+attkisson



Rick




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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
She also wrote a book about her ordeal with getting her computer hacked by 
three letter agencies in the government.
It's free for reading if you have a Kindle and a prime account.

https://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-Obstruction-Intimidation-Harassment-Washington-ebook/dp/B00HLIYWA8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8=1544761279=8-2=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=sharyl+attkisson



Rick
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[MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

2018-12-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes 


https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1965-mercedes-220-series/6757263521.html


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 


> On December 13, 2018 at 10:01 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Who is "Sharyl Attkisson"? 

CBS News reporter who broke the story about the ATF making sure guns from US 
FFLs made it to the Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico so that they could blame the US 
gun industry for drug cartel murders (Fast and Furious). CBS fired her a few 
months later. Can't have our reporters spreading truths that the administration 
wants to bury, can we?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Not any more.

SO you go unvaccinated all your life?

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:06 PM Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps you should read the link.  The first 2 paragraphs explain who has
> "expertise"
>
> "
>
> A CDC senior epidemiologist stepped forward last week to say that he and
> his CDC colleagues omitted data that linked MMR vaccine to autism in a 2004
> study. The scientist, William Thompson, said “I regret that my coauthors
> and I omitted statistically significant information.”
> [image: Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC Director of Immunization Safety]
> 
>
> Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC Director of Immunization Safety
>
> A coauthor of the questioned study is Dr. Frank DeStefano, Director of the
> CDC Immunization Safety Office. "
>
> It is just another goobermnt coverup.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote on 12/13/18 9:01 PM:
>
> Who is "Sharyl Attkisson"?  Would you risk getting polio based on her
> expertise?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Perhaps you should read the link.  The first 2 paragraphs explain who 
has "expertise"


"

A CDC senior epidemiologist stepped forward last week to say that he and 
his CDC colleagues omitted data that linked MMR vaccine to autism in a 
2004 study. The scientist, William Thompson, said “I regret that my 
coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information.”


Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC Director of Immunization Safety 



Dr. Frank DeStefano, CDC Director of Immunization Safety

A coauthor of the questioned study is Dr. Frank DeStefano, Director of 
the CDC Immunization Safety Office."


It is just another goobermnt coverup.


Andrew Strasfogel wrote on 12/13/18 9:01 PM:
Who is "Sharyl Attkisson"?  Would you risk getting polio based on her 
expertise?




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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Who is "Sharyl Attkisson"?  Would you risk getting polio based on her
expertise?

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:24 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Special reading for Dr. Curt, who recently proclaimed on list that there
> was no link between vaccines and autism, based on no cited data, but
> probably based on the CDC's campaign to suppress data showing the linkage.
>
>
> https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/12/10/cdc-possibility-that-vaccines-rarely-trigger-autism/
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

2018-12-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Special reading for Dr. Curt, who recently proclaimed on list that there 
was no link between vaccines and autism, based on no cited data, but 
probably based on the CDC's campaign to suppress data showing the linkage.


https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/12/10/cdc-possibility-that-vaccines-rarely-trigger-autism/





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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

2018-12-13 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes 
The OM603 is what made the trip to ND and returned.   I have given the swap a 
bit of brain time.  Consideration, not actual implementation.  I suspect there 
will be a bunch of stuff that wants to be swapped with it.  Change over from 
long wheelbase to shorter it a head scratcher.  I think it would be less 
complex to put a 617 back in the hole.


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Didn't you make a run to ND relating to one of your sons a year or so back?
> Why not make a run to get the motor and haul it home yourself?
> All you need is a vehicle with a hitch and a trailer. Buy or rent a trailer, 
> or rent a van or pickup and go get it.
> 
> Or, am I way off in thinking that the engine from the "police car" that is so 
> rusty could be swapped into the other car that needs the engine?
> 
> RB
> 
> On 12/12/2018 8:04 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Depends on purchase price.  Should be able to ship to the shop on a pallet 
>> for around $500.  OM 617 turbo, not aspirated.
>> 
>> UPS freight will come over and crate it up, then send it to my indy for us.  
>> Crated it becomes class 70, cheaper.  On a pallet, skid it is class 85, more 
>> dollars.  It would need to be fully drained of fluids and have a goodly 
>> diaper in case anything drips.  The engine would want to be supported on the 
>> mounts, not the oil pan.  Some advice was to build up something to bolt the 
>> engine down, as well as strap the heck out of it.
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OPEC said it is going to raise petroleum prices ...

2018-12-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Benzin was down to 1.819, then almost everyone raised the price to 
$1.919 or more Monday.   Wally was the only place that only went to 1.869.


Sounds line crude price went down again, so maybe the general 1.869 will 
return, and the few places with 1.81.


Dissel as low as 2.49, but most ripping off at 2.79-2.89 with a few higher.

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Re: [MBZ] M112 spark plugs

2018-12-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
Cheap wrench and a torch and you can shape it however you want. Even a 
propane torch will likely work but just take longer to heat it up to red.


RB

On 13/12/2018 1:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Dan was right, the offset 17mm plug boot puller is worth buying.
A straight 17mm open end doesn't get great leverage except at the front plugs.
It would have done the job nicely on the back plugs if the firewall wasn't in 
the way.

At this point I'm giving up on the back plugs, at least on the left side, and 
ordering the boot puller wrench.

I'm seeing Karlyn-STI for $16-26 plus shipping, and I'm seeing unbranded but 
also made in Taiwan on eBay with free shipping for $15.49.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-V6-V8-Engine-Spark-Plug-Wire-Boot-Remover-Wrench-Tool-17mm/173499536309

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Re: [MBZ] M112 spark plugs

2018-12-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Mine is an eBay special.  You’ll never wear this thing out using it for the 
intended purpose…

-D


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan was right, the offset 17mm plug boot puller is worth buying. 
> A straight 17mm open end doesn't get great leverage except at the front 
> plugs. 
> It would have done the job nicely on the back plugs if the firewall wasn't in 
> the way. 
> 
> At this point I'm giving up on the back plugs, at least on the left side, and 
> ordering the boot puller wrench. 
> 
> I'm seeing Karlyn-STI for $16-26 plus shipping, and I'm seeing unbranded but 
> also made in Taiwan on eBay with free shipping for $15.49.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-V6-V8-Engine-Spark-Plug-Wire-Boot-Remover-Wrench-Tool-17mm/173499536309
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[MBZ] M112 spark plugs

2018-12-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
Dan was right, the offset 17mm plug boot puller is worth buying. 
A straight 17mm open end doesn't get great leverage except at the front plugs. 
It would have done the job nicely on the back plugs if the firewall wasn't in 
the way. 

At this point I'm giving up on the back plugs, at least on the left side, and 
ordering the boot puller wrench. 

I'm seeing Karlyn-STI for $16-26 plus shipping, and I'm seeing unbranded but 
also made in Taiwan on eBay with free shipping for $15.49.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-V6-V8-Engine-Spark-Plug-Wire-Boot-Remover-Wrench-Tool-17mm/173499536309

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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Sunroof is not the source of my leak, I've proven that by sealing it off
with duct tape.  The only other holes in the roof that are factory are for
the roof rack.

It is possible that there is another rust hole somewhere that I haven't
found, that is allowing water to get into the passenger side.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:24 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If I'd kept the SLC, I would have MIG'ed the sunroof closed and sealed.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Wow that's harsh to say nothing of how it would affect resale value.  ;)
I've seen SLCs without a sunroof but they are exceedingly rare.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:24 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If I'd kept the SLC, I would have MIG'ed the sunroof closed and sealed.
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:41 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow, thanks Dan, worse that I thought.  $10 for caulk and tape sounds
> like
> > a good-enough plan for me.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ABORT!! ABORT!!
> > >
> > > Heh. I just did some looking and people are saying you have to remove
> the
> > > sunroof to get at the middle mount screws.  I did mine in 1989, so I’ve
> > > slept since then.  I didn’t recall it being that big of a deal, but I
> was
> > > prepping the car for pain, so I could very well have had the sunroof
> out
> > as
> > > a part of the job.
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, do you happen to know approximate locations?  Number of cap
> > screws?
> > > > If I can get the rails off, I might be able to determine if my theory
> > is
> > > > indeed fact and then apply the caulk under the rails in the area
> > required
> > > > and not have any caulking visible from above.
> > > > -
> > > > Max
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You
> just
> > > >> peel the headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.
> IIRC
> > > it’s
> > > >> just tucked under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.
> > > >>
> > > >> -D
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Bravo!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The
> > White
> > > >>> Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure
> that
> > my
> > > >>> problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather
> that
> > > go
> > > >>> through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R
> the
> > > >> roof
> > > >>> rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points
> > of
> > > >> the
> > > >>> rails.
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] BATman crack

2018-12-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 

> On December 13, 2018 at 12:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Race car up to $20k, that is probably reasonable for something unique.  
> If I was rich dude I would... 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220-2/

Who would drive something like that?
Regina?
Mrs Poos?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
If I'd kept the SLC, I would have MIG'ed the sunroof closed and sealed.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:41 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow, thanks Dan, worse that I thought.  $10 for caulk and tape sounds like
> a good-enough plan for me.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > ABORT!! ABORT!!
> >
> > Heh. I just did some looking and people are saying you have to remove the
> > sunroof to get at the middle mount screws.  I did mine in 1989, so I’ve
> > slept since then.  I didn’t recall it being that big of a deal, but I was
> > prepping the car for pain, so I could very well have had the sunroof out
> as
> > a part of the job.
> >
> > Sorry.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmmm, do you happen to know approximate locations?  Number of cap
> screws?
> > > If I can get the rails off, I might be able to determine if my theory
> is
> > > indeed fact and then apply the caulk under the rails in the area
> required
> > > and not have any caulking visible from above.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You just
> > >> peel the headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.  IIRC
> > it’s
> > >> just tucked under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Bravo!
> > >>>
> > >>> Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The
> White
> > >>> Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that
> my
> > >>> problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that
> > go
> > >>> through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the
> > >> roof
> > >>> rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points
> of
> > >> the
> > >>> rails.
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
I just know that it is a PIA to R/R the kick panel in cold weather and I
always misplace those little plastic screw cover clips...  I might venture
out during a thaw.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:22 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> No and if yours is then it must be a bear to
> do any work under the dash on your car.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > *...**after removing the drivers kick panel/footrest**.   The underdash
> > panel was removed as well.*
> >
> > Aren't these the same?  Mine is one piece.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:09 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I could just see it from the drivers footwell after removing the kick
> >> panel/footrest.   The underdash panel was removed as well.
> >>
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> So you could see the hole from the driver's footwell or from under the
> >> hood
> >>> looking down?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was
> behind
>  the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot
> >> forward
>  of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and
> >> with
>  the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
>  about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I
> >> fixed
>  it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
> 
> 
>  Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
> > On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side;
> >> try
> > pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.
> >
> > On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with
> very
> > thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line
> >> pushed
> > through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a
> little
>  ball
> > to make it easier to push through.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers
> side
> >> footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and
> forward
> >> of
> >> the emergency brake pedal.
> >> I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out
> right
>  in
> >> front of the upper door hinge.
> >> Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
> >>
> >> I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >>
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[MBZ] BATman crack

2018-12-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
This one isn't bad: 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-g500-5/


Race car up to $20k, that is probably reasonable for something unique.  
If I was rich dude I would... 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220-2/


This is methed up but it is nice 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-240d-5/


Wow, CDs seem popular 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300cd-turbo-5/



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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread MG via Mercedes 
No and if yours is then it must be a bear to 
do any work under the dash on your car.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

*...**after removing the drivers kick panel/footrest**.   The underdash
panel was removed as well.*

Aren't these the same?  Mine is one piece.



On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:09 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I could just see it from the drivers footwell after removing the kick
panel/footrest.   The underdash panel was removed as well.

Michael E. Esh



On Dec 12, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So you could see the hole from the driver's footwell or from under the

hood

looking down?

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot

forward

of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and

with

the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I

fixed

it next time I go out in the rain and snow.


Michael E. Esh



On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side;

try

pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.

On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line

pushed

through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little

ball

to make it easier to push through.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward

of

the emergency brake pedal.
I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right

in

front of the upper door hinge.
Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?

I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.


Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

2018-12-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

Didn't you make a run to ND relating to one of your sons a year or so back?
Why not make a run to get the motor and haul it home yourself?
All you need is a vehicle with a hitch and a trailer. Buy or rent a 
trailer, or rent a van or pickup and go get it.


Or, am I way off in thinking that the engine from the "police car" that 
is so rusty could be swapped into the other car that needs the engine?


RB

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Depends on purchase price.  Should be able to ship to the shop on a pallet for 
around $500.  OM 617 turbo, not aspirated.

UPS freight will come over and crate it up, then send it to my indy for us.  
Crated it becomes class 70, cheaper.  On a pallet, skid it is class 85, more 
dollars.  It would need to be fully drained of fluids and have a goodly diaper 
in case anything drips.  The engine would want to be supported on the mounts, 
not the oil pan.  Some advice was to build up something to bolt the engine 
down, as well as strap the heck out of it.

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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
*...**after removing the drivers kick panel/footrest**.   The underdash
panel was removed as well.*

Aren't these the same?  Mine is one piece.



On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:09 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I could just see it from the drivers footwell after removing the kick
> panel/footrest.   The underdash panel was removed as well.
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So you could see the hole from the driver's footwell or from under the
> hood
> > looking down?
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
> >> the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot
> forward
> >> of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and
> with
> >> the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
> >> about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I
> fixed
> >> it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side;
> try
> >>> pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.
> >>>
> >>> On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
> >>> thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line
> pushed
> >>> through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little
> >> ball
> >>> to make it easier to push through.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
>  footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward
> of
>  the emergency brake pedal.
>  I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right
> >> in
>  front of the upper door hinge.
>  Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
> 
>  I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
> 
> 
>  Michael E. Esh
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Wow, thanks Dan, worse that I thought.  $10 for caulk and tape sounds like
a good-enough plan for me.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ABORT!! ABORT!!
>
> Heh. I just did some looking and people are saying you have to remove the
> sunroof to get at the middle mount screws.  I did mine in 1989, so I’ve
> slept since then.  I didn’t recall it being that big of a deal, but I was
> prepping the car for pain, so I could very well have had the sunroof out as
> a part of the job.
>
> Sorry.
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm, do you happen to know approximate locations?  Number of cap screws?
> > If I can get the rails off, I might be able to determine if my theory is
> > indeed fact and then apply the caulk under the rails in the area required
> > and not have any caulking visible from above.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You just
> >> peel the headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.  IIRC
> it’s
> >> just tucked under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
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> >>>
> >>> Bravo!
> >>>
> >>> Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The White
> >>> Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that my
> >>> problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that
> go
> >>> through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the
> >> roof
> >>> rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points of
> >> the
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
ABORT!! ABORT!!

Heh. I just did some looking and people are saying you have to remove the 
sunroof to get at the middle mount screws.  I did mine in 1989, so I’ve slept 
since then.  I didn’t recall it being that big of a deal, but I was prepping 
the car for pain, so I could very well have had the sunroof out as a part of 
the job.

Sorry.

-D




> On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, do you happen to know approximate locations?  Number of cap screws?
> If I can get the rails off, I might be able to determine if my theory is
> indeed fact and then apply the caulk under the rails in the area required
> and not have any caulking visible from above.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You just
>> peel the headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.  IIRC it’s
>> just tucked under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bravo!
>>> 
>>> Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The White
>>> Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that my
>>> problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that go
>>> through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the
>> roof
>>> rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points of
>> the
>>> rails.
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Hmmm, do you happen to know approximate locations?  Number of cap screws?
If I can get the rails off, I might be able to determine if my theory is
indeed fact and then apply the caulk under the rails in the area required
and not have any caulking visible from above.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You just
> peel the headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.  IIRC it’s
> just tucked under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bravo!
> >
> > Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The White
> > Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that my
> > problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that go
> > through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the
> roof
> > rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points of
> the
> > rails.
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
Getting to the cap screws for the roof rails isn’t difficult. You just peel the 
headliner back from the edges and they’re right there.  IIRC it’s just tucked 
under the edges of the window seal and/or windlace.

-D

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bravo!
> 
> Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The White
> Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that my
> problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that go
> through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the roof
> rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points of the
> rails.  White car, dark grey rails, if I use some tape to mask off the
> white paint a quarter inch or so from each rail, so I get nice straight
> lines of caulk, it probably won't even be so noticeable.  All the rust on
> the right side and rear tailgate are enough of an eyesore to distract from
> the roof.
> 
> If I solve the leak, I can probably drive The White Whale for a few more
> years.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
>> the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot forward
>> of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and with
>> the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
>> about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I fixed
>> it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Bravo!

Floyd has inspired me to spend a tube of caulk on the roof of The White
Whale in an attempt to solve my water leak.  I'm about 90% sure that my
problem is the rubber seals under the roof rack rails, so rather that go
through the pain of R the headliner to get to the screws to R the roof
rack rails, I'm simply going to apply black caulk around all points of the
rails.  White car, dark grey rails, if I use some tape to mask off the
white paint a quarter inch or so from each rail, so I get nice straight
lines of caulk, it probably won't even be so noticeable.  All the rust on
the right side and rear tailgate are enough of an eyesore to distract from
the roof.

If I solve the leak, I can probably drive The White Whale for a few more
years.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
> the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot forward
> of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and with
> the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
> about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I fixed
> it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

2018-12-13 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes 
I could just see it from the drivers footwell after removing the kick 
panel/footrest.   The underdash panel was removed as well. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 12, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So you could see the hole from the driver's footwell or from under the hood
> looking down?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
>> the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot forward
>> of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and with
>> the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
>> about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I fixed
>> it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side; try
>>> pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.
>>> 
>>> On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
>>> thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line pushed
>>> through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little
>> ball
>>> to make it easier to push through.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
 footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward of
 the emergency brake pedal.
 I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right
>> in
 front of the upper door hinge.
 Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
 
 I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
 
 
 Michael E. Esh
 
 
 
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