Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

A fill up with hydrocarbon fuels takes at most five minutes and you get far 
more than 100 kilometers of range.  This Quack Charge scam would require a 
driver to vacate the freeway every 60 miles or hour and take a five minute 
break.  Because, of course, the electrons dispenser will be busy, charge time 
is 180 seconds, but getting out of the car and futzing around with couplings 
will take more time.

They may as well just set up a platoon of electron dispensers at each rest area 
along the interstates.  Most of those are spaces at 30-60 mlle intervals.  And 
the kids can hop out and hit the head, look at the tourist maps and local 
information kiosk while everybody waits for a free charging spot.


clay monroe
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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They desperately want to compete with the speed of a gas or diesel fill up... 
> Personally, I'm waiting for nuclear powered cars.  ;-)
> 
> BTW, when I filled up my White Elephant at a local WaWa and noticed they had 
> 6 or 7 electrical charging stations all with the Tesla logo across them...
> 
> LarryT
> 
> On 12/14/2018 2:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> The Lure of 3-minute charging is so great, however, that I wouldn't bet
>> against someone coming up with a safe and effective solution.
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2018 1:17 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Exactly, the article I read stated just that - we can't feed such chargers
>>> anytime soon, plus even keeping the temps under control, the batteries are
>>> damaged by the high inrush of electrons.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3
 minutes later?
 
 And, in related news...
 
 
 https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-
>>> wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang
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Re: [MBZ] OT Was Special reading for Dr. Curt NOW Political topic

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:43:52 -0500 Dimitri via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The original study linking vaccinations to autism was fabricated- based
> on falsified data. That doc should be in prison. Utter nonsense.

Just like the study about DDT was based on falsified data -- the people
who were feeding the birds took the calcium out of the birds' diet so
they would have thinner shells, so it's no wonder the study found the
birds' eggs had thinner shells.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Secret message for Michael

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Your Welcome!  Have a very merry Christmas. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 14, 2018, at 8:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Hag face is both senile and stupid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nanski, the hag face of the young democrat socialists (marxist) and 
> transparent goobermnt, begged the prez to turn off cameras and talk in secret.
> 
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 10:39 AM:
>> Transparency: Earlier this week, was it Nanski or Chuck-U that was
>> practically begging Orange Crush to send away the cameras / reporters so
>> they could talk border security funding in private?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Was Special reading for Dr. Curt NOW Political topic

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

The original study linking vaccinations to autism was fabricated- based on 
falsified data. That doc should be in prison. Utter nonsense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 12:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "You have to pass it to see what's in it."  Only works with stool
> samples, not bills through Congress...
> 
> But then there are most often close similarities.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 9:05 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There I fixed it.
>>> 
>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 9:29 AM:
 Nanski Peloski, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says
 her reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to
 pass bills before we can find out what's in them.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Speedometer Drive - 1983 240D

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$30.00 to your door.  Better grab it, as they’re NLA from Mercedes despite what 
you may see on dealer parts web sites.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-Drive-Gear-1152700327-/122208406254?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0

-D



> On Dec 14, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
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> 
> Transmission # 722.120 
> Part # 1152700327
> Speedo Gear Drive
> 
> Looking for a used speedo gear drive for my 240D. 
> Does anyone have one they would part with?
> 
> The link shows the schematic. 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/337622-speedometer-drive.html
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Secret message for Michael

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The eagle has landed.  Thanks!

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Re: [MBZ] Speedometer Drive - 1983 240D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I had to get one for the FL POS 300D, and the only place was from the 
dealer.   They gave me a price over the phone when I ordered, of 
something like $16 out the door.   Crazy high for a little chunk of 
plastic.  When it came in they tried to charge me something like $30 for 
it.   In the end I got it for the original price, but it cost me another 
30-45 minutes.


Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 7:06 PM:

Transmission # 722.120
Part # 1152700327
Speedo Gear Drive

Looking for a used speedo gear drive for my 240D.
Does anyone have one they would part with?

The link shows the schematic.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/337622-speedometer-drive.html


Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] back

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes I obtained a new cold weather idle adjust cable and dial for the 1961
190dc from the dealer. And new carb fuel supply line for the 1961 190sl.

Stuff doesnt grow on trees. It will only get more expensive with time.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 2:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Welcome back, Allan!
>
> Here’s my list:
>
> Dealer (if you can get a good discount)
> FCP Euro
> Importec
> Rock Auto
>
> I waffle around on the last three, as you can shop them all and find
> better deals at one or the other depending on what you’re buying and how
> much.  For example:
>
> Rock Auto has closeouts on parts pretty regularly, so if you subscribe or
> bookmark the feed for your car(s) you can see when they put stuff on
> special or have a special closeout.  Rock Auto is known to buy up
> distressed inventories, so if you pay attention to these and are quick to
> respond, you can often get some seriously good deals.  They often have name
> brand filters, like Mann, on discount.  Cardone is a brand they have for
> brake parts, among other things, that I’ve used with success when I’m
> watching the budget.
>
> Importec does a good job but can be spotty as to the coverage for
> different models, or so I’ve found.  They often will offer an OE part and a
> sub-quality brand like URO as an alternative, with nothing in between.
> That’s not a choice.
>
> FCP Euro has a good depth in brands and won’t carry junk brands like URO.
> That being said, they do occasionally have Meyle, which can be hit or miss
> as a reboxer of part in some circumstances.  They also have free shipping
> on orders over $50, which I use them for to save a buck when I’m not in a
> hurry for something. If it’s in stock even with free shipping the order
> usually goes out within a day.  FCP Euro also has their lifetime guarantee
> on everything.  I recently had someone tell me they sent used motor oil
> back to FCP Euro in the original containers, and they shipped replacements!
>
> I believe Importec has free shipping above a certain amount as well, but I
> think it’s higher, like $75.
>
> And as for buying parts at the dealer, I know it can get expensive, but I
> was having a conversation about this with a finnie friend the other day,
> and they made a very astute observation:
>
> “Whenever one can get original parts, one should- regardless of cost. The
> time to buy good parts isn't when you need them- it's when they're
> available.”
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> > Hi all, back after a long hiatus.
> >
> > I have not been keeping up with the list at all, but see many names I
> > remember in the recent list archives.
> >
> > Still have my W123 300D and W116 300SD, wondering who is the favored
> > parts supplier these days?
> >
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> >
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[MBZ] Speedometer Drive - 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Transmission # 722.120 
Part # 1152700327
Speedo Gear Drive

Looking for a used speedo gear drive for my 240D. 
Does anyone have one they would part with?

The link shows the schematic. 
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/337622-speedometer-drive.html


Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

is no AC still a deal breaker?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan will have something in the very near future, I’m sure.  And he won’t
> have to go to Belgium to get it and it will be street legal.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dan needs that yellow one that was on BAT.
> >
> > RB
> >
> > On 13/12/2018 10:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1965-mercedes-220-series/6757263521.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 14, 2018 at 7:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Oh!  The station will refill your Lektrik cah for free.   Lektricity is 
> free and it is made by a box at the station with a big black cord."    
> (sez the purple haired "girl" protester.)

During the blowout sales at the end of 2016, I was trying to get a MD dealer to 
lease me a Spark EV and register it in Oregon. Deal fell through when they 
refused to do it without an Oregon driver's license. 

With a 76 mile commute, 80 miles if I go out to lunch, I figured it would be 
hard on the battery, and probably impossible in the snow, if I couldn't charge 
at work. The good news is that the city government put a free Level 2 charger a 
block away from work in the summer of 2016. I could have plugged in for the 
morning, and then gone and fetched the car at lunchtime so I didn't hog the 
charger all day. Figured I'd get 2/3 of my commuting power for free that way. 

Turns out it was a good thing I didn't get the car, because by the fall of 
2017, the city charger was wrapped in yellow police tape and taken out of 
service. I don't know if it broke and nobody wanted to pay to fix it, after 
paying to install it, or if they got tired of paying the electric bill for the 
two Volts and the Leaf I occasionally saw parked there. Last time I was there 
in August, it was still shut down, so I guess it's gone for good. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

"Oh!  The station will refill your Lektrik cah for free.   Lektricity is 
free and it is made by a box at the station with a big black cord."    
(sez the purple haired "girl" protester.)


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 5:17 PM:

What was the cost to "refill" your electric car?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] back

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hi Allen, good to see you back again.  I did not get the original post 
for some reason.  (not in the junk or spam boxes either)  So I was 
trying to figure out who the "Back" subject line belonged to.



Rock usually has the best prices and have closeouts with good prices, 
but you have to watch the shipping cost.  I don't know about 124, but 
they stock Bosal exhaust for the 123 Dissels.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 4:27 PM:

Welcome back!

Another parts source to check is Rock Auto, but be careful what you order. Many 
times parts are re-boxed, so the description of the maker needs to be checked 
against the picture of the part. I've found the pictures are more accurate.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 14, 2018 at 6:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What was the cost to "refill" your electric car?

If it's a Tesla Supercharger, I believe it's included in the price of your S or 
X series Tesla. I'm not sure what sort of arrangement you get if you buy a 
Model 3. And I don't know if there's a J1772 connector for people with more 
mundane vehicles. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT Was Special reading for Dr. Curt NOW Political topic

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

KALEB:  this belongs on the long neglected quotes page!

G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 11:25 AM:

"You have to pass it to see what's in it."  Only works with stool
samples, not bills through Congress...

But then there are most often close similarities.





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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nanski, the hag face of the young democrat socialists (marxist) and 
transparent goobermnt, begged the prez to turn off cameras and talk in 
secret.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 10:39 AM:

Transparency: Earlier this week, was it Nanski or Chuck-U that was
practically begging Orange Crush to send away the cameras / reporters so
they could talk border security funding in private?
-
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Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] back

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 14, 2018 at 5:27 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome back!
> 
> Another parts source to check is Rock Auto, but be careful what you order. 
> Many times parts are re-boxed, so the description of the maker needs to be 
> checked against the picture of the part. I've found the pictures are more 
> accurate. 

The pictures of the Remy alternators might say Bosch Made in UK on the 
regulators, but the alternators that you buy are Chinese, including the 
regulators. The one I bought has worked fine for the last 500 miles, but I have 
my doubts about it going 200k. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dan will have something in the very near future, I’m sure.  And he won’t have 
to go to Belgium to get it and it will be street legal.

-D


> On Dec 14, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan needs that yellow one that was on BAT.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 13/12/2018 10:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1965-mercedes-220-series/6757263521.html
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Dan needs that yellow one that was on BAT.

RB

On 13/12/2018 10:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1965-mercedes-220-series/6757263521.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

What was the cost to "refill" your electric car?

RB

On 14/12/2018 4:04 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:


BTW, when I filled up my White Elephant at a local WaWa and noticed 
they had 6 or 7 electrical charging stations all with the Tesla logo 
across them...


LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] back

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Welcome back, Allan!

Here’s my list:

Dealer (if you can get a good discount)
FCP Euro
Importec
Rock Auto

I waffle around on the last three, as you can shop them all and find better 
deals at one or the other depending on what you’re buying and how much.  For 
example:

Rock Auto has closeouts on parts pretty regularly, so if you subscribe or 
bookmark the feed for your car(s) you can see when they put stuff on special or 
have a special closeout.  Rock Auto is known to buy up distressed inventories, 
so if you pay attention to these and are quick to respond, you can often get 
some seriously good deals.  They often have name brand filters, like Mann, on 
discount.  Cardone is a brand they have for brake parts, among other things, 
that I’ve used with success when I’m watching the budget.

Importec does a good job but can be spotty as to the coverage for different 
models, or so I’ve found.  They often will offer an OE part and a sub-quality 
brand like URO as an alternative, with nothing in between.  That’s not a choice.

FCP Euro has a good depth in brands and won’t carry junk brands like URO.  That 
being said, they do occasionally have Meyle, which can be hit or miss as a 
reboxer of part in some circumstances.  They also have free shipping on orders 
over $50, which I use them for to save a buck when I’m not in a hurry for 
something. If it’s in stock even with free shipping the order usually goes out 
within a day.  FCP Euro also has their lifetime guarantee on everything.  I 
recently had someone tell me they sent used motor oil back to FCP Euro in the 
original containers, and they shipped replacements!

I believe Importec has free shipping above a certain amount as well, but I 
think it’s higher, like $75.

And as for buying parts at the dealer, I know it can get expensive, but I was 
having a conversation about this with a finnie friend the other day, and they 
made a very astute observation:

“Whenever one can get original parts, one should- regardless of cost. The time 
to buy good parts isn't when you need them- it's when they're available.”

-D


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, back after a long hiatus.
> 
> I have not been keeping up with the list at all, but see many names I
> remember in the recent list archives.
> 
> Still have my W123 300D and W116 300SD, wondering who is the favored
> parts supplier these days?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Allan
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Importecautoparts.com or fcpeuro.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
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> remember in the recent list archives.
> 
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> parts supplier these days?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Welcome back!

Another parts source to check is Rock Auto, but be careful what you order. Many 
times parts are re-boxed, so the description of the maker needs to be checked 
against the picture of the part. I've found the pictures are more accurate. 
-- 
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'95 E300

On December 13, 2018 5:07:13 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Hi all, back after a long hiatus.
>
>I have not been keeping up with the list at all, but see many names I
>remember in the recent list archives.
>
>Still have my W123 300D and W116 300SD, wondering who is the favored
>parts supplier these days?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Allan
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

A fellow Hoosier writes:

>who is the favored
>parts supplier these days?

Welcome back.

FCP Euro and one Kaleb likes, Importec.
I just had to order a W124 diesel exhaust pipe. The only place that carries it 
was Eeuroparts.
I checked eBay and I could've saved a few bucks ordering from JC Whitney on 
eBay. Need to know the part numbers though.


Rick
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Poosy Dan recently gave us an update on the merits of buying EVERYTHING from 
the local dealer if you buy enough to talk them into a wholesale mechanic's 
account. 
Top quality, pretty blue tristars, and local availability, at a good price if 
you can manage it. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

I guess it's a sign of the times that so many people know so little 
about how diesels operate and what Glow Plugs do?


IMO, diesel technology is superior to gasoline tech and last time I 
checked, diesels were getting 20-30% better MPGs than gas.  But it's 
been a whole since I checked -


On 12/14/2018 3:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Replacing glow plugs with a microwave critter will only effect
starting.


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[MBZ] back

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Hi all, back after a long hiatus.

I have not been keeping up with the list at all, but see many names I
remember in the recent list archives.

Still have my W123 300D and W116 300SD, wondering who is the favored
parts supplier these days?

Thanks,

Allan

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The only way I can see this working is if the MWs are pulsed in such a way that 
they distribute the timing of the pulses throughout the power cycle of the 
piston. That would carry the idea of the dual spark plugs per cylinder in my 
M112 engine to a logical conclusion of a nearly infinite number of ignitions 
and sustantially increase the energy throughput.

I agree that it's hard to see how that would benefit an OM engine.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

> Andrew wrote:

> Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs
> or glow plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG
> say they can cut consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much
> as 30 percent, and emissions by as much as 80 percent, because
> the fuel burns at a lower temperature.

FAIL

There's lots wrong when an engineering company allows such sloppy
press releases.


Replacing glow plugs with a microwave critter will only effect
starting.

Burning at lower temperature will not improve efficiency, and I
doubt it will improve emissions.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

They desperately want to compete with the speed of a gas or diesel fill 
up... Personally, I'm waiting for nuclear powered cars.  ;-)


BTW, when I filled up my White Elephant at a local WaWa and noticed they 
had 6 or 7 electrical charging stations all with the Tesla logo across 
them...


LarryT

On 12/14/2018 2:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The Lure of 3-minute charging is so great, however, that I wouldn't bet
against someone coming up with a safe and effective solution.

On Dec 14, 2018 1:17 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Exactly, the article I read stated just that - we can't feed such chargers
anytime soon, plus even keeping the temps under control, the batteries are
damaged by the high inrush of electrons.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3
minutes later?

And, in related news...


https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-

wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 14, 2018 at 4:58 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The efficiency of a heat engine is related to the difference between its
> high (source) temperature and its low (sink) temperature. You want to
> increase combustion temperature for increased efficiency. That's why
> there has been talk of use of ceramics in engine design.

And why a Wankel made of Aluminum and Iron can never approach the efficiency of 
a piston engine made with the same materials, the Wankel has too much internal 
surface area exposed to combustion gases, and therefore too much heat loss. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

IIRC higher temps result in more nitrous oxides.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:50:25 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Burning at lower temperature will not improve efficiency, and I
> doubt it will improve emissions.

The efficiency of a heat engine is related to the difference between its
high (source) temperature and its low (sink) temperature. You want to
increase combustion temperature for increased efficiency. That's why
there has been talk of use of ceramics in engine design.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

could this be a scam looking for investors to fill their bank with cash 
so they can then disappear?  Seems risky when getting involved with the 
securities organizations around the world.  But once they get the cash 
they might find their technology isn't as advanced as they say?


To me it doesn't seem very complex to be a scam.  I would hope anyone 
investing would see that low temp=low combustion=higher emissions - 
afterall, isn't that the whole reason we've been seeing cat. converters 
on gas powered cars - raise the temp to lower emissions?  But then, 
sometimes someone finds a new way to do things and people say, "Gee, why 
didn't I think of that"?


I wonder why MWI didn't want to make a statement?  I would think if they 
are soliciting investors they would have Press Releases ready to go...


LarryT

On 12/14/2018 3:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Andrew wrote:
Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs
or glow plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG
say they can cut consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much
as 30 percent, and emissions by as much as 80 percent, because
the fuel burns at a lower temperature.

FAIL

There's lots wrong when an engineering company allows such sloppy
press releases.


Replacing glow plugs with a microwave critter will only effect
starting.

Burning at lower temperature will not improve efficiency, and I
doubt it will improve emissions.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Andrew wrote:

> Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs
> or glow plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG
> say they can cut consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much
> as 30 percent, and emissions by as much as 80 percent, because
> the fuel burns at a lower temperature.

FAIL

There's lots wrong when an engineering company allows such sloppy
press releases.


Replacing glow plugs with a microwave critter will only effect
starting.

Burning at lower temperature will not improve efficiency, and I
doubt it will improve emissions.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:16:32 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Exactly, the article I read stated just that - we can't feed such
> chargers anytime soon, plus even keeping the temps under control, the
> batteries are damaged by the high inrush of electrons.

BUT!!

There are also six airbags and 11 speakers, and Aviar says owners can
order an external speaker to generate the sound of an original Ford
Shelby GT500's exhaust note.


However,

Unfortunately Aviar is yet to get around to building an actual R67, which
means it could be some time until the car is ready for delivery, if at
all. However, the company is already accepting orders.


Craig


> > https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang

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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The Lure of 3-minute charging is so great, however, that I wouldn't bet
against someone coming up with a safe and effective solution.

On Dec 14, 2018 1:17 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Exactly, the article I read stated just that - we can't feed such chargers
> anytime soon, plus even keeping the temps under control, the batteries are
> damaged by the high inrush of electrons.
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3
> > minutes later?
> >
> > And, in related news...
> >
> >
> > https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-
> wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm trying to figure out this approach.  Are they claiming that they get
complete combustion at a lower temperature?  How would that be beneficial?
If less of the fuel's energy is lost as heat, that could increase the
efficiency?  Lower combustion = lower NO emissions?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 1:14 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Interesting - need to watch this . . .
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > EMISSIONSEx-Porsche CEO aims to save combustion engine from
> > scrapheapPublished:
> > Friday, December 14, 2018
> >
> > As tightening emission rules force the car industry to embrace battery
> > power, a German startup says it has the technology to give the combustion
> > engine a reprieve.
> >
> > Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs or glow
> > plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG say they can cut
> > consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much as 30 percent, and
> emissions
> > by as much as 80 percent, because the fuel burns at a lower temperature.
> >
> > The company based in the small Black Forest town of Empfingen has won
> some
> > powerful backers. Among its shareholders is Wendelin Wiedeking, the
> former
> > chief executive officer of Porsche AG credited with reviving the iconic
> > German sports-car maker.
> >
> > MWI has mandated Macquarie Capital to look for a buyer and international
> > partner that can help to promote the new system and increase MWI's
> > financial firepower, according to people familiar with the matter. The
> > company has begun talks with large automakers from South Korea and China,
> > one of the people said.
> >
> > MWI declined to comment.
> >
> > Wiedeking and a group of other private investors own about 20 percent of
> > MWI, which is controlled by its founders, Armin and Volker Gallatz.
> >
> > "I am convinced that MWI is a disruptive innovation with a huge market
> > potential," Wiedeking was cited as saying in a document shared by MWI.
> >
> > More efficient engine technology could keep traditional cars on the road
> > for longer, shoring up industry profits as automakers spend heavily to
> ramp
> > up production of electric vehicles in coming years. Several manufacturers
> > are still investing in better combustion engines.
> >
> > MWI's pitch is that it can be integrated into existing engine
> architecture
> > rather than requiring an all-new approach.
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

Exactly, the article I read stated just that - we can't feed such chargers
anytime soon, plus even keeping the temps under control, the batteries are
damaged by the high inrush of electrons.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3
> minutes later?
>
> And, in related news...
>
>
> https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

Interesting - need to watch this . . .

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> EMISSIONSEx-Porsche CEO aims to save combustion engine from
> scrapheapPublished:
> Friday, December 14, 2018
>
> As tightening emission rules force the car industry to embrace battery
> power, a German startup says it has the technology to give the combustion
> engine a reprieve.
>
> Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs or glow
> plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG say they can cut
> consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much as 30 percent, and emissions
> by as much as 80 percent, because the fuel burns at a lower temperature.
>
> The company based in the small Black Forest town of Empfingen has won some
> powerful backers. Among its shareholders is Wendelin Wiedeking, the former
> chief executive officer of Porsche AG credited with reviving the iconic
> German sports-car maker.
>
> MWI has mandated Macquarie Capital to look for a buyer and international
> partner that can help to promote the new system and increase MWI's
> financial firepower, according to people familiar with the matter. The
> company has begun talks with large automakers from South Korea and China,
> one of the people said.
>
> MWI declined to comment.
>
> Wiedeking and a group of other private investors own about 20 percent of
> MWI, which is controlled by its founders, Armin and Volker Gallatz.
>
> "I am convinced that MWI is a disruptive innovation with a huge market
> potential," Wiedeking was cited as saying in a document shared by MWI.
>
> More efficient engine technology could keep traditional cars on the road
> for longer, shoring up industry profits as automakers spend heavily to ramp
> up production of electric vehicles in coming years. Several manufacturers
> are still investing in better combustion engines.
>
> MWI's pitch is that it can be integrated into existing engine architecture
> rather than requiring an all-new approach.
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Maybe it sounds like a rare merced diesel 

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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Check your FB.
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1923982944325411/
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Was Special reading for Dr. Curt NOW Political topic

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"You have to pass it to see what's in it."  Only works with stool
samples, not bills through Congress...

But then there are most often close similarities.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 9:05 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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>
> > There I fixed it.
> >
> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 9:29 AM:
> > > Nanski Peloski, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says
> > > her reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to
> > > pass bills before we can find out what's in them.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > Chuckski is the collective name for the (D) leaders.
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Re: [MBZ] This wagon looks pretty nice

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This:

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The sellers are usually morons who do not now how to market and sell a car, 
> slightly worse than most Craigslist sellers. May times you message them then 
> never hear back. Or maybe you hear back weeks later. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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[MBZ] Floyd

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Check your FB.

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1923982944325411/


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Transparency: Earlier this week, was it Nanski or Chuck-U that was
practically begging Orange Crush to send away the cameras / reporters so
they could talk border security funding in private?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nancy Pelosi, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says her
> reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to pass
> bills before we can find out what's in them.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] This wagon looks pretty nice

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The sellers are usually morons who do not now how to market and sell a car, 
slightly worse than most Craigslist sellers. May times you message them then 
never hear back. Or maybe you hear back weeks later. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seems like some good deals are on FB Marketplace.  Any caveats?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 2007 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes E Class
>> Myrtle Beach, SC· about an hour ago
>> <
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166/?ref=product_details>·
>> 
>> 
>> $5,850
>> 
>>  * About This Vehicle
>> 
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Driven 102,614 miles
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Automatic transmission
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: White
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Fuel type: Gasoline
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Very good condition
>>
>> 
>> Seller's Description
>> 
>> Great condition inside and out . Sun roof, leather heated seats. Cool
>> air and navigation No rust or dents 1 previous owner . Included a few
>> pictures . This car has cleared title . If you would like more info
>> please message . Miles. 102,614. Motivated seller! Can make a third
>> row for two passengers. Less
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This wagon looks pretty nice

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I think a lot of people don't know how to interact with CL but know FB, 
and FB might reach a target audience more aggressively with 
notifications and such


--FT


On 12/14/18 11:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Seems like some good deals are on FB Marketplace. Any caveats?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


2007 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes E Class
Myrtle Beach, SC· about an hour ago

·


$5,850

  * About This Vehicle

  *
      o

      o Driven 102,614 miles
  *
      o

      o Automatic transmission
  *
      o

      o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: White
  *
      o

      o Fuel type: Gasoline
  *
      o

      o Very good condition
        

Seller's Description

Great condition inside and out . Sun roof, leather heated seats. Cool
air and navigation No rust or dents 1 previous owner . Included a few
pictures . This car has cleared title . If you would like more info
please message . Miles. 102,614. Motivated seller! Can make a
third
row for two passengers. Less


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166

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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm not an EE nor do I necessarily agree that this approach will be
feasible or even necessary..

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3
> minutes later?
>
> And, in related news...
>
>
> https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang
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[MBZ] Porsche effort to save combustion engines

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

EMISSIONSEx-Porsche CEO aims to save combustion engine from scrapheapPublished:
Friday, December 14, 2018

As tightening emission rules force the car industry to embrace battery
power, a German startup says it has the technology to give the combustion
engine a reprieve.

Using pulsed microwaves to ignite fuel rather than spark plugs or glow
plugs, the engineers behind MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG say they can cut
consumption of gasoline and diesel by as much as 30 percent, and emissions
by as much as 80 percent, because the fuel burns at a lower temperature.

The company based in the small Black Forest town of Empfingen has won some
powerful backers. Among its shareholders is Wendelin Wiedeking, the former
chief executive officer of Porsche AG credited with reviving the iconic
German sports-car maker.

MWI has mandated Macquarie Capital to look for a buyer and international
partner that can help to promote the new system and increase MWI's
financial firepower, according to people familiar with the matter. The
company has begun talks with large automakers from South Korea and China,
one of the people said.

MWI declined to comment.

Wiedeking and a group of other private investors own about 20 percent of
MWI, which is controlled by its founders, Armin and Volker Gallatz.

"I am convinced that MWI is a disruptive innovation with a huge market
potential," Wiedeking was cited as saying in a document shared by MWI.

More efficient engine technology could keep traditional cars on the road
for longer, shoring up industry profits as automakers spend heavily to ramp
up production of electric vehicles in coming years. Several manufacturers
are still investing in better combustion engines.

MWI's pitch is that it can be integrated into existing engine architecture
rather than requiring an all-new approach.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What's the grid do when a 450kW load switches on, and then switches off 3 
minutes later?

And, in related news...

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120422_russian-firm-wants-to-build-high-tech-ev-styled-like-a-classic-mustang

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[MBZ] OT Superfast charging - Might want to keep a safe distance from your car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ELECTRIC VEHICLESBMW, Porsche boast 3-minute charging joltPublished:
Friday, December 14, 2018

BMW AG and Porsche unveiled a charging station that can jolt electric
vehicles with enough power to drive 100 kilometers (62 miles) in less than
three minutes, pushing ahead of Tesla Inc. in the race to make
battery-powered cars more convenient.

The ultra-fast prototype charger has a capacity of 450 kilowatts, more than
triple Tesla's Superchargers. Test vehicles developed to take that much
power were recharged to 80 percent capacity in 15 minutes. Tesla's stations
need about 30 minutes for a similar charge, according to its website.

Carmakers, developing a wave of electric models to keep up with tightening
carbon emissions regulation, are under pressure to overcome consumer
turnoffs like slow charging times and patchy infrastructure. With demand
remaining tepid, BMW, Daimler AG and Porsche parent Volkswagen AG are also
building a fast-charging network along major highways in Europe.

The super-powered charging point was developed by a consortium comprising
the two German car brands, engineering giant Siemens AG, and charging
specialists Allego GmbH and Phoenix Contact E-Mobility GmbH. The station in
Bavaria was opened to the public on Wednesday. It's free to use for
existing models, BMW said yesterday in a statement.

One drawback — the charger offers more power than current models can take
on. The BMW i3 limits its power intake to 50 kilowatts, while the
battery-powered iX3 will triple that to 150 kilowatts when it rolls out in
2020.

For the test vehicles to withstand the full electricity surge, Porsche used
a cooling system that keeps battery cells at a steady temperature, while
the charging cables were cooled too. Siemens provided a higher electric
voltage energy supply to test the limits of the power jolt. *— Chris
Reiter, Bloomberg*
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Re: [MBZ] OT Was Special reading for Dr. Curt NOW Political topic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There I fixed it.
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 9:29 AM:
> > Nanski Peloski, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says
> > her reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to
> > pass bills before we can find out what's in them.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> Chuckski is the collective name for the (D) leaders.
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Re: [MBZ] This wagon looks pretty nice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems like some good deals are on FB Marketplace.  Any caveats?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 2007 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes E Class
> Myrtle Beach, SC· about an hour ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $5,850
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 102,614 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: White
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Fuel type: Gasoline
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Very good condition
> 
>
> Seller's Description
>
> Great condition inside and out . Sun roof, leather heated seats. Cool
> air and navigation No rust or dents 1 previous owner . Included a few
> pictures . This car has cleared title . If you would like more info
> please message . Miles. 102,614. Motivated seller! Can make a third
> row for two passengers. Less
> 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166
>
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Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

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No AC?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:26 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> no, reupholstered.
>
> For that much  they can't even get the hubcaps right?FAIL
>
> M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote on 12/13/18 11:45 PM:
> >> Velour?
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There I fixed it.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 12/14/18 9:29 AM:
Nanski Peloski, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says 
her reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to 
pass bills before we can find out what's in them.


--FT


Chuckski is the collective name for the (D) leaders.

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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nancy Pelosi, the face of the young progressive Democrat party, says her 
reign is going to be open and transparent, but we will have to pass 
bills before we can find out what's in them.


--FT


On 12/14/18 9:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On December 14, 2018 at 12:05 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Couldn’t have happened under the previous administration, she was a journalist 
and they are off limits

Of course not.
It was the "most honest and open administration" in our nation's history.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] This wagon looks pretty nice

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

2007 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes E Class
Myrtle Beach, SC· about an hour ago 
· 


$5,850

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 102,614 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: White
 *
 o

 o Fuel type: Gasoline
 *
 o

 o Very good condition
   

Seller's Description

Great condition inside and out . Sun roof, leather heated seats. Cool 
air and navigation No rust or dents 1 previous owner . Included a few 
pictures . This car has cleared title . If you would like more info 
please message . Miles. 102,614. Motivated seller! Can make a third 
row for two passengers. Less 



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/311996966068166

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[MBZ] Gm bookers..this Mercedes only $2750

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1693599917411411/

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Re: [MBZ] Special reading for Dr. Curt

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> On December 14, 2018 at 12:05 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Couldn’t have happened under the previous administration, she was a 
> journalist and they are off limits 

Of course not. 
It was the "most honest and open administration" in our nation's history. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] A Finny for Dan?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, reupholstered.

For that much  they can't even get the hubcaps right?    FAIL

M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote on 12/13/18 11:45 PM:

Velour?



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