date:20190318

I could tell the difference in the SDL.  I used the thin oil in the 
winter.  (5w-40)M1 and the 15W-50 in the warmer weather.  oil pressure 
was lower at idle, oil consumption went up with the thin stuff, but it 
started easier at -20ºF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 8:16 PM:

  Wait, we're (or at least I'm) being specific here though, was it a modern 
synthetic oil? Specifically are we comparing 5w40 vs 15w50?
Its easy to say light oil won't do whatever but I'm specifically saying in most 
conditions you probably won't see any difference using M1 5w40 vs M1 15w50 in 
anything but the most extreme cases...
Of course it doesn't really get hot (or cold) enough where I live to really be 
extreme most of the time...
-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300D

Looks more like a 300TD than a 300D.  Might be a worthwhile investment if
it starts/drives/stops.

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>  You haven't bought it yet? Seems right up your alley. ;)
> We need to do breakfast sometime...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that your furry 
> little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!

Rabbits (and hares and pikas) are Lagomorphs, not Rodents.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> animals that dive into the snow and catch rodents.

Saw our cat with a snow face and a mouse in its mouth the other day.
Snow about a foot deep at the time.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300D

 You haven't bought it yet? Seems right up your alley. ;)
We need to do breakfast sometime...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 Wait, we're (or at least I'm) being specific here though, was it a modern 
synthetic oil? Specifically are we comparing 5w40 vs 15w50?
Its easy to say light oil won't do whatever but I'm specifically saying in most 
conditions you probably won't see any difference using M1 5w40 vs M1 15w50 in 
anything but the most extreme cases...
Of course it doesn't really get hot (or cold) enough where I live to really be 
extreme most of the time...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 8:04:19 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 It's enough that a thinner oil couldn't be kept cool enough by the oil
cooler to keep the idle pressure above .3 bar in the OM615 we had - '70
220D, and was marginal in the '76 300D.

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>  Will it be a big difference though? 5%, 10%? At what point does that mean
> you *need* thicker oil?
> Also remembering that most of us don't run the engine at 100% output very
> much, with a 240D you come close but still not all the time. For example
> when I'm running the groomer it works 100% all the time and I have to vary
> the load to keep moving, fortunately its cold out so its relatively easy
> keeping the engine cool.
> As people usually point out oils today are wy better than what was
> available when the cars were new, M1 5w40 gives more protection against
> high temps than dino 20w50 which was "good enough" for years and years.
> Its also worth mentioning that M1 15w50 was only CF (I think) rated and
> today carries no certification (or didn't last I knew) because Mobil didn't
> want an old cert on their oil. Turbo Diesel Truck is (again my memory is
> soft) CI-4 (or better) rated...
>
> -Curt
>
>    On Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:20:46 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:22:06 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I agree. The inside of your engine is going to be way more hot than the
> > outside temp so the theory of needing thicker oil in hotter temps is
> > false.
>
> I disagree.
>
> That's like saying a W123 diesel doesn't need an oil cooler when it's
> cold outside, so it doesn't need an oil cooler (which the Benz engineers
> have included in the car).
>
> Your oil's temperature will be higher the hotter the ambient temperature.
>
>
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300D

2019-03-18 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

its a lifter tick. nothing to worry about, but long term use of M1 
15w-50 usually makes it go away.  Might take 10-20k miles...


Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 4:30 PM:

Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s very faint 
within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it goes away away, 
then when you let off the food feed again and returns to idle, it takes about 
two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only a done this a week after I’ve 
change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No leaks anywhere. I did some 
stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver but I could not tell where it was 
coming from.

Bob R





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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

Well, the long haul guys say that fleets use it, and if you buy a used 
fleet truck, to avoid the rotella, as it works well enough for the half 
million or so miles the fleet will put on the truck, but you will pay 
for a major.  If you buy from a fleet that used delo or delvac, the 
engine will last longer, like another half million in most cases.  YMMV, 
but thats the talk around truckstops.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 4:09 PM:

mercedes@okiebenz.com sez:


Avoid rotella.

Why?





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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

It's enough that a thinner oil couldn't be kept cool enough by the oil
cooler to keep the idle pressure above .3 bar in the OM615 we had - '70
220D, and was marginal in the '76 300D.

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>  Will it be a big difference though? 5%, 10%? At what point does that mean
> you *need* thicker oil?
> Also remembering that most of us don't run the engine at 100% output very
> much, with a 240D you come close but still not all the time. For example
> when I'm running the groomer it works 100% all the time and I have to vary
> the load to keep moving, fortunately its cold out so its relatively easy
> keeping the engine cool.
> As people usually point out oils today are wy better than what was
> available when the cars were new, M1 5w40 gives more protection against
> high temps than dino 20w50 which was "good enough" for years and years.
> Its also worth mentioning that M1 15w50 was only CF (I think) rated and
> today carries no certification (or didn't last I knew) because Mobil didn't
> want an old cert on their oil. Turbo Diesel Truck is (again my memory is
> soft) CI-4 (or better) rated...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:20:46 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:22:06 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I agree. The inside of your engine is going to be way more hot than the
> > outside temp so the theory of needing thicker oil in hotter temps is
> > false.
>
> I disagree.
>
> That's like saying a W123 diesel doesn't need an oil cooler when it's
> cold outside, so it doesn't need an oil cooler (which the Benz engineers
> have included in the car).
>
> Your oil's temperature will be higher the hotter the ambient temperature.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

We don't have near the squirrel problem that we used have, since I dusted
off and cleaned the .410 shotgun ...

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> We once had many squirrels, but since a small hawk moved into the
> neighborhood, we see very few. I seem to remember reading about foxes and
> other animals that dive into the snow and catch rodents. I wonder if artic
> foxes have ever been tried in New England for squirrel control?
> Gerry
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:
> > Brilliant!
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent
> damage
> > > under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from
> Amazon.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> > > > application of the pellet gun. ;)
> > > > I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably
> work up
> > > > until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
> > > frickin
> > > > week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
> > > > reapplication...
> > > > -Curt
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> > > > jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
> > > >
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> > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
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> > > for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 Will it be a big difference though? 5%, 10%? At what point does that mean you 
*need* thicker oil?
Also remembering that most of us don't run the engine at 100% output very much, 
with a 240D you come close but still not all the time. For example when I'm 
running the groomer it works 100% all the time and I have to vary the load to 
keep moving, fortunately its cold out so its relatively easy keeping the engine 
cool.
As people usually point out oils today are wy better than what was 
available when the cars were new, M1 5w40 gives more protection against high 
temps than dino 20w50 which was "good enough" for years and years.
Its also worth mentioning that M1 15w50 was only CF (I think) rated and today 
carries no certification (or didn't last I knew) because Mobil didn't want an 
old cert on their oil. Turbo Diesel Truck is (again my memory is soft) CI-4 (or 
better) rated...

-Curt

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 On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:22:06 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I agree. The inside of your engine is going to be way more hot than the
> outside temp so the theory of needing thicker oil in hotter temps is
> false.

I disagree.

That's like saying a W123 diesel doesn't need an oil cooler when it's
cold outside, so it doesn't need an oil cooler (which the Benz engineers
have included in the car).

Your oil's temperature will be higher the hotter the ambient temperature.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:22:06 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I agree. The inside of your engine is going to be way more hot than the
> outside temp so the theory of needing thicker oil in hotter temps is
> false.

I disagree.

That's like saying a W123 diesel doesn't need an oil cooler when it's
cold outside, so it doesn't need an oil cooler (which the Benz engineers
have included in the car).

Your oil's temperature will be higher the hotter the ambient temperature.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

We once had many squirrels, but since a small hawk moved into the neighborhood, 
we see very few. I seem to remember reading about foxes and other animals that 
dive into the snow and catch rodents. I wonder if artic foxes have ever been 
tried in New England for squirrel control?
Gerry

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:
> Brilliant!
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent damage
> > under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from Amazon.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> > > application of the pellet gun. ;)
> > > I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up
> > > until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
> > frickin
> > > week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
> > > reapplication...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > > On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> > > jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
> > >
> > > -- Jim
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 04/96 MB approved oils -- list mom let through please

Nothing in the queue.

LM


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Re: [MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

2019-03-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Or you could replace all twelve lifters with new from Ina, for about $150 or 
so.  Probably improve compression.

Another couple items that probably need attention: ALDA seals, ALDA adjustment, 
turbo waste gate adjustment, timing chain.

Replace all the lifters, get the boost and ALDA set up correctly, IP timing 
back in spec, you'll have a real rocket ship.
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On March 18, 2019 6:02:27 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Just normal lifter ticking. Running synthetic for thousands of miles
>will usually make it go away.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s
>very faint within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it
>goes away away, then when you let off the food feed again and returns
>to idle, it takes about two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only
>a done this a week after I’ve change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No
>leaks anywhere. I did some stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver
>but I could not tell where it was coming from. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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[MBZ] 04/96 MB approved oils -- list mom let through please




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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r129-sl-class/252613d1249347569-what-engine-oil-viscocity-you-running-2001_mbfactoryapprovedserviceproducts.pdf

I have some other graphics extracted from some of these posts in that thread

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On 3/18/19 6:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

When the ambient temps are at and above 100F, a lighter than 50 weight oil
would not keep the oil pressure up at idle when the engine was fully warmed
up. 15W-50 synthetic was great in the OM61x and OM60x engines I had. So, if
the temps get high, you need heavier oil. If the temps get low, you need
lighter oil. If they swing to both extremes, you need multi-weight that
covers both ends.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:44 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

In a 61x engine 0w40 is hard to keep IN the engine. At least it was in my
'83 240D. That car leaked 5x as bad with 0w40. It started more easily but
was costing me an extra quart of oil a week to keep going. 5w40 leaked way
less and started nearly as well.

I'd say 5w40 is the sweet spot, especially for older engines that see some
cold. At anything above freezing 15w50 is probably fine and provides higher
sheer strength. I don't think its any "better" because engine oil is most
of the time "good enough" and doesn't benefit from being "better". Most of
us don't run in real extreme conditions...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:11:34 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better. Vast
majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
Thick oil makes this worse. Synthetic oil has far better flow
characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
ago) and helps in this case.

Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate. Thinner
oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.

0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel. I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
Infiniti gasser motor. That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.

See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
-
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

As long as it is .3 or higher at idle and pegs at 3 when RPM goes up it’s fine. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When the ambient temps are at and above 100F, a lighter than 50 weight oil
> would not keep the oil pressure up at idle when the engine was fully warmed
> up. 15W-50 synthetic was great in the OM61x and OM60x engines I had. So, if
> the temps get high, you need heavier oil. If the temps get low, you need
> lighter oil. If they swing to both extremes, you need multi-weight that
> covers both ends.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:44 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> In a 61x engine 0w40 is hard to keep IN the engine. At least it was in my
>> '83 240D. That car leaked 5x as bad with 0w40. It started more easily but
>> was costing me an extra quart of oil a week to keep going. 5w40 leaked way
>> less and started nearly as well.
>> 
>> I'd say 5w40 is the sweet spot, especially for older engines that see some
>> cold. At anything above freezing 15w50 is probably fine and provides higher
>> sheer strength. I don't think its any "better" because engine oil is most
>> of the time "good enough" and doesn't benefit from being "better". Most of
>> us don't run in real extreme conditions...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:11:34 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
>> majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
>> Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
>> characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
>> ago) and helps in this case.
>> 
>> Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
>> the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
>> oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.
>> 
>> 0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
>> Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.
>> 
>> See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 Does the engine temp rise appreciably with higher ambient temp? The engine is 
already closing in on 200F, especially in the moving bits...
Didn't Mercedes say anything above 1 bar of pressure at idle was acceptable?

-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 6:09:29 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When the ambient temps are at and above 100F, a lighter than 50 weight oil
would not keep the oil pressure up at idle when the engine was fully warmed
up. 15W-50 synthetic was great in the OM61x and OM60x engines I had. So, if
the temps get high, you need heavier oil. If the temps get low, you need
lighter oil. If they swing to both extremes, you need multi-weight that
covers both ends.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:44 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  In a 61x engine 0w40 is hard to keep IN the engine. At least it was in my
> '83 240D. That car leaked 5x as bad with 0w40. It started more easily but
> was costing me an extra quart of oil a week to keep going. 5w40 leaked way
> less and started nearly as well.
>
> I'd say 5w40 is the sweet spot, especially for older engines that see some
> cold. At anything above freezing 15w50 is probably fine and provides higher
> sheer strength. I don't think its any "better" because engine oil is most
> of the time "good enough" and doesn't benefit from being "better". Most of
> us don't run in real extreme conditions...
> -Curt
>
>    On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:11:34 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
> majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
> Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
> characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
> ago) and helps in this case.
>
> Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
> the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
> oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.
>
> 0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
> Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.
>
> See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
> -
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

I agree. The inside of your engine is going to be way more hot than the outside 
temp so the theory of needing thicker oil in hotter temps is false.

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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
> majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
> Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
> characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
> ago) and helps in this case.
> 
> Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
> the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
> oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.
> 
> 0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
> Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.
> 
> See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:14:39 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:55:35 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > It’s a Continental. I bought one for the former 350SDL. Great retrofit
> > for an older car, and not expensive, either.

I should have tried the links out before I posted them!

The correct link is


https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios



> > > On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Max bought one that is a repro lookalike drop in that has all the
> > > modern features. Not at home to get the link but maybe he can weigh
> > > in. It was not very expensive, I was thinking to get one for my
> > > daughter but she uses a RF/BT thingie that works well. 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:55:35 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It’s a Continental. I bought one for the former 350SDL. Great retrofit
> for an older car, and not expensive, either.


http://www.continental-automotive.com/www/automotive_de_en/themes/commercial_vehicles/ch_interior_en/audio_products/radio_products/fm_am_radio_bluetooth_en.html


http://www.continental-automotive.com/www/automotive_de_en/themes/commercial_vehicles/ch_interior_en/audio_products/radio_products/fm_am_radio_cd_mp3_bluetooth_en.html


> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Max bought one that is a repro lookalike drop in that has all the
> > modern features. Not at home to get the link but maybe he can weigh
> > in. It was not very expensive, I was thinking to get one for my
> > daughter but she uses a RF/BT thingie that works well. 

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Re: [MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

What Kaleb said ...

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 5:02 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just normal lifter ticking. Running synthetic for thousands of miles will
> usually make it go away.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s very
> faint within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it goes
> away away, then when you let off the food feed again and returns to idle,
> it takes about two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only a done this a
> week after I’ve change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No leaks anywhere. I
> did some stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver but I could not tell
> where it was coming from.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

When the ambient temps are at and above 100F, a lighter than 50 weight oil
would not keep the oil pressure up at idle when the engine was fully warmed
up. 15W-50 synthetic was great in the OM61x and OM60x engines I had. So, if
the temps get high, you need heavier oil. If the temps get low, you need
lighter oil. If they swing to both extremes, you need multi-weight that
covers both ends.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:44 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  In a 61x engine 0w40 is hard to keep IN the engine. At least it was in my
> '83 240D. That car leaked 5x as bad with 0w40. It started more easily but
> was costing me an extra quart of oil a week to keep going. 5w40 leaked way
> less and started nearly as well.
>
> I'd say 5w40 is the sweet spot, especially for older engines that see some
> cold. At anything above freezing 15w50 is probably fine and provides higher
> sheer strength. I don't think its any "better" because engine oil is most
> of the time "good enough" and doesn't benefit from being "better". Most of
> us don't run in real extreme conditions...
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:11:34 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
> majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
> Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
> characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
> ago) and helps in this case.
>
> Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
> the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
> oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.
>
> 0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
> Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.
>
> See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

It's the living "in harmony" part that trips them up - eating car wiring is
not harmonious.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:22 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to live in harmony with the rest of
> us!
> Never heard of tetanus shot given for an animal bite. Rabies maybe.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > I once got bitten by a squirrel in Central park as a kid when feeding it
> a peanut.  Had to get a tetanus shot afterwards.
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:21 PM Dimitri  wrote:
> >> Hey the squirrels have a right to our land as well! I saw a documentary
> on squirrels a month or so ago. They are pretty intelligent and resourceful
> creatures. And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that
> your furry little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Brilliant!
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent
> damage
> >> >> under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from
> Amazon.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> >> >>> application of the pellet gun. ;)
> >> >>> I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably
> work up
> >> >>> until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
> >> >> frickin
> >> >>> week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near
> constant
> >> >>> reapplication...
> >> >>> -Curt
> >> >>>
> >> >>>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> >> >>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -- Jim
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> >> >> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >> >>
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> few who
> >> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> >> >> for themselves."
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

Just normal lifter ticking. Running synthetic for thousands of miles will 
usually make it go away.

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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s very faint 
> within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it goes away away, 
> then when you let off the food feed again and returns to idle, it takes about 
> two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only a done this a week after I’ve 
> change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No leaks anywhere. I did some 
> stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver but I could not tell where it was 
> coming from. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

 Probably normal, especially if you've done a couple starts in the process. 
Quite likely your new oil is cleaning some schmoo out of the engine. I'd do an 
oil analysis at maybe 2,000 miles, find out whats going on in there. Be 
prepared to change the oil early.My '85 190D did that after my mechanic botched 
a delivery valve seal job. He started the car repeatedly and one lifter failed 
to pump up, took a couple days of driving before it went back to normal.
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:31:02 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s very faint 
within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it goes away away, 
then when you let off the food feed again and returns to idle, it takes about 
two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only a done this a week after I’ve 
change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No leaks anywhere. I did some 
stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver but I could not tell where it was 
coming from. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 In a 61x engine 0w40 is hard to keep IN the engine. At least it was in my '83 
240D. That car leaked 5x as bad with 0w40. It started more easily but was 
costing me an extra quart of oil a week to keep going. 5w40 leaked way less and 
started nearly as well. 

I'd say 5w40 is the sweet spot, especially for older engines that see some 
cold. At anything above freezing 15w50 is probably fine and provides higher 
sheer strength. I don't think its any "better" because engine oil is most of 
the time "good enough" and doesn't benefit from being "better". Most of us 
don't run in real extreme conditions...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 5:11:34 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
ago) and helps in this case.

Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.

0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.

See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 What about Rotella T6? The gen3 TDI guys are all about Rotella T6. I was 
thinking about it for the ASV since that wants 3 gallons of oil and I can get 
T6 in 5 gallon pails for way cheaper than M1.
Actually I ought to ask the local Deere dealership what they want for a bucket 
of their synthetic. I think they call for either a 10w30 or 0w40 synthetic...

-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 4:55:57 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 M1 15W-50 is still best for summer and moderate winter temps.  (OM 
601,2,3) and still good for OM61x, although the soot levels dictate more 
frequent oil changes, so, IMHO make OM61x not worth the price of 
synthetic. I'd guess about 0º. Below 0, you probably need a garage, a 
block heater, lighter oil or all the above.  Delo or Delvac are good for 
OM61x.  Avoid rotella.

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 1:17 PM:
>  Clay I think, mentioned 20w50 the other day, I recognize that just because I 
>don't know a thing exists doesn't mean it exists. He mentioned both 15w50 and 
>20w50 in the same post so I assume he knows what he's talking about, maybe its 
>some mysterious west coast M1 I've never seen. ;)
> -Curt
>

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[MBZ] My OM603’s New Ticking

2019-03-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Today, I heard a new ticking sound. After I start the engine, it’s very faint 
within 20 seconds it’s pretty loud. If you raise the RPM, it goes away away, 
then when you let off the food feed again and returns to idle, it takes about 
two seconds and the ticking returns. It’s only a done this a week after I’ve 
change the oil. Oil levels are fine. No leaks anywhere. I did some 
stethoscoping with a long ass screwdriver but I could not tell where it was 
coming from. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

Ocean rat = Lobster

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>
> Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 3:21 PM:
> > ...
> > Never heard of tetanus shot given for an animal bite. Rabies maybe.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> now we know what's wrong!Maybe the squirrel was eating rusty nails!
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Yup. The only thing I will add to that, is that a ZDDP additive is probably a 
wise addition to any oil used in pre-2007 diesel engines at this point. 

Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
ago) and helps in this case.

Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.

0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.

See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom




Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 3:21 PM:

...
Never heard of tetanus shot given for an animal bite. Rabies maybe.

Sent from my iPhone


now we know what's wrong!    Maybe the squirrel was eating rusty nails!
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

I think ya'll are wrong with this idea that thicker oil is better.  Vast
majority of engine wear normally happens immediately after a cold start.
Thick oil makes this worse.  Synthetic oil has far better flow
characteristics (see Curt's test of M1 vs. Dino in his freezer from years
ago) and helps in this case.

Oil is not only a lubricant but also plays a very important roll in cooling
the engine internals, and for cooling you want a high flow rate.  Thinner
oil will flow faster, provide better cooling.

0W-40 is the best of both worlds, for diesel.  I use 0W-30 in SWMBO's
Infiniti gasser motor.  That is at over 250k miles and doesn't burn a drop.

See Bob is the Oil Guy website, read up on the Oil 101 info.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom


tree rat = squirrel
Field rat = bambi
hole rat = rabbit

all are tasty    PETA= people for eating tasty animals


Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 2:20 PM:

Hey the squirrels have a right to our land as well! I saw a documentary on 
squirrels a month or so ago. They are pretty intelligent and resourceful 
creatures. And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that your 
furry little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!





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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

mercedes@okiebenz.com sez: 

>Avoid rotella.

Why?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

M1 15W-50 is still best for summer and moderate winter temps.  (OM 
601,2,3) and still good for OM61x, although the soot levels dictate more 
frequent oil changes, so, IMHO make OM61x not worth the price of 
synthetic. I'd guess about 0º. Below 0, you probably need a garage, a 
block heater, lighter oil or all the above.  Delo or Delvac are good for 
OM61x.  Avoid rotella.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 1:17 PM:

  Clay I think, mentioned 20w50 the other day, I recognize that just because I 
don't know a thing exists doesn't mean it exists. He mentioned both 15w50 and 
20w50 in the same post so I assume he knows what he's talking about, maybe its 
some mysterious west coast M1 I've never seen. ;)
-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Since I relocated 15 abandoned (and now neutered) cats to my barn the squirrel 
population has either thinned or moved deeper into the woods.

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> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:05 PM
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom
> 
> Curt already knows about this.
> 
> NEW ENGLANDSquirrel boom does a number on maple syrup
> operationsPublished:
> Friday, March 15, 2019
> 
> Maple syrup producers have more than the weather to worry about. Frenetic
> squirrels are chomping on equipment, crimping the flow of sap at some
> operations.
> 
> Damage from wildlife — deer, bear woodpeckers and squirrels — is not
> unusual for maple producers, but this year an abundant population of
> squirrels is disrupting plastic sap tubing and spouts at some sugaring
> operations in New England.
> 
> That means producers must go out into sometimes deep snow to find and
> replace the damaged lines that transport the sap from the maple trees or other
> chewed or missing equipment, which producers say can be time-consuming
> and expensive.
> 
> "Occasionally they declare war. And it seems like they have this year,"
> said Ruth Goodrich of Goodrich's Maple Farm in Danville, Vt., the largest
> maple-producing state.
> 
> The boom in the squirrel population is mostly tied to an increase in food
> source, such as acorns and other mast from trees, said Mark Isselhardt, maple
> specialist with the University of Vermont Extension. But the squirrels aren't
> causing problems for all producers, he said.
> 
> The varmints haven't been any worse than normal this year for Bascom Maple
> Farms in Alstead, N.H.
> 
> "We haven't had a lot of snow cover," said Bruce Bascom. "We've only got
> about a foot of snow here. I think the squirrels are not having that hard a
> winter."
> 
> But Lyle Merrifield of Gorham, Maine, said he's had to fix about 60 spots in 
> his
> operation damaged by the chomping critters.
> 
> The trouble is the squirrels could take one bite of tubing and move another
> 100 feet, where they could take another bite, making the damage hard to find,
> said Merrifield, who is president of the Maine Maple Producers Association.
> 
> "I've heard a lot of people talk about squirrel damage, so it's probably the
> worst we've seen, combined with the deep snow, just that combination,"
> he said.
> 
> There's no way to completely control the squirrels, Isselhardt said. *— Lisa
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

Doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to live in harmony with the rest of us!
Never heard of tetanus shot given for an animal bite. Rabies maybe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I once got bitten by a squirrel in Central park as a kid when feeding it a 
> peanut.  Had to get a tetanus shot afterwards.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:21 PM Dimitri  wrote:
>> Hey the squirrels have a right to our land as well! I saw a documentary on 
>> squirrels a month or so ago. They are pretty intelligent and resourceful 
>> creatures. And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that 
>> your furry little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Brilliant!
>> > 
>> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent 
>> >> damage
>> >> under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from Amazon.
>> >> 
>> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
>> >>> application of the pellet gun. ;)
>> >>> I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up
>> >>> until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
>> >> frickin
>> >>> week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
>> >>> reapplication...
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
>> >>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
>> >>> 
>> >>> -- Jim
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>> >> 
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>> >> who
>> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> >> for themselves."
>> >> 
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>> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

I once got bitten by a squirrel in Central park as a kid when feeding it a
peanut.  Had to get a tetanus shot afterwards.


On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:21 PM Dimitri  wrote:

> Hey the squirrels have a right to our land as well! I saw a documentary on
> squirrels a month or so ago. They are pretty intelligent and resourceful
> creatures. And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that
> your furry little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brilliant!
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent
> damage
> >> under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from
> Amazon.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> >>> application of the pellet gun. ;)
> >>> I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work
> up
> >>> until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
> >> frickin
> >>> week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
> >>> reapplication...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> >>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
> >>>
> >>> -- Jim
> >>>
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> >>
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> of
> >> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >>
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> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
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> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

Hey the squirrels have a right to our land as well! I saw a documentary on 
squirrels a month or so ago. They are pretty intelligent and resourceful 
creatures. And before you call them rats with bushy tails, consider that your 
furry little rabbit pets are rodents all the same!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brilliant!
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent damage
>> under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from Amazon.
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
>>> application of the pellet gun. ;)
>>> I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up
>>> until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
>> frickin
>>> week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
>>> reapplication...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
>>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
>>> 
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>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

Brilliant!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:18 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent damage
> under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from Amazon.
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> > application of the pellet gun. ;)
> > I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up
> > until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every
> frickin
> > week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
> > reapplication...
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> > jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes

A  person used to be able to purchase it in the diesel oil section, the 20/50.  
Then is seemed to go missing form the shelves, and I only found 15-50 no matter 
who made it, be it dino or synth.  All of a sudden it showed up on shelves 
again but in the special motor bike section with a price twice that of car M1 
15-50, or other weights.


clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Mar 18, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay I think, mentioned 20w50 the other day, I recognize that just because I 
> don't know a thing exists doesn't mean it exists. He mentioned both 15w50 and 
> 20w50 in the same post so I assume he knows what he's talking about, maybe 
> its some mysterious west coast M1 I've never seen. ;)
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, March 18, 2019, 2:15:15 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Oops yes M1 15w50 is what I meant. Sorry for the typo.
> 
> 20w50 probably came to mind as I used to run Castrol 20w50 in my
> air-cooled VWs years ago.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Curt Raymond  writes:
> 
>> I don't think I've ever seen M1 20w50...  I forget where you are but
>> if the car starts okay at your temps then I'd suggest its fine. A 61x
>> will never be able to go long OCI due to soot levels unless you filter
>> for soot specifically which probably isn't worth it on a car not being
>> driven big miles. The last 240D I had I used M1 15w50 in the summer
>> and M1 5w40 in the winter. The 240D before that leaked oil really bad
>> so it got the cheapest 15w40 I could find but got changed at 3,000
>> miles or so...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:31:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow an oil thread.
>> 
>> What are people using in the older diesels, e.g. OM617?
>> 
>> Years ago (Marshall Booth era) I used to use M1 20W50. I later got the
>> impression that it wasn't so great for diesels anymore, and started
>> using Delo and changing more often.
>> 
>> I have M1 20W50 in the 300SD now, mainly because I had about 10 quarts
>> sitting in the garage last time I did a change.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

I found a Toyota electrical tape that has capsaicin in it for rodent damage
under the hood - might work for your lights as well. I got it from Amazon.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an
> application of the pellet gun. ;)
> I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up
> until it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every frickin
> week so I don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant
> reapplication...
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey <
> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?
>
> -- Jim
>
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 Clay I think, mentioned 20w50 the other day, I recognize that just because I 
don't know a thing exists doesn't mean it exists. He mentioned both 15w50 and 
20w50 in the same post so I assume he knows what he's talking about, maybe its 
some mysterious west coast M1 I've never seen. ;)
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 2:15:15 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Oops yes M1 15w50 is what I meant. Sorry for the typo.

20w50 probably came to mind as I used to run Castrol 20w50 in my
air-cooled VWs years ago.

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> I don't think I've ever seen M1 20w50...  I forget where you are but
> if the car starts okay at your temps then I'd suggest its fine. A 61x
> will never be able to go long OCI due to soot levels unless you filter
> for soot specifically which probably isn't worth it on a car not being
> driven big miles. The last 240D I had I used M1 15w50 in the summer
> and M1 5w40 in the winter. The 240D before that leaked oil really bad
> so it got the cheapest 15w40 I could find but got changed at 3,000
> miles or so...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:31:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Wow an oil thread.
>
> What are people using in the older diesels, e.g. OM617?
>
> Years ago (Marshall Booth era) I used to use M1 20W50. I later got the
> impression that it wasn't so great for diesels anymore, and started
> using Delo and changing more often.
>
> I have M1 20W50 in the 300SD now, mainly because I had about 10 quarts
> sitting in the garage last time I did a change.
>

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Oops yes M1 15w50 is what I meant. Sorry for the typo.

20w50 probably came to mind as I used to run Castrol 20w50 in my
air-cooled VWs years ago.

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> I don't think I've ever seen M1 20w50...  I forget where you are but
> if the car starts okay at your temps then I'd suggest its fine. A 61x
> will never be able to go long OCI due to soot levels unless you filter
> for soot specifically which probably isn't worth it on a car not being
> driven big miles. The last 240D I had I used M1 15w50 in the summer
> and M1 5w40 in the winter. The 240D before that leaked oil really bad
> so it got the cheapest 15w40 I could find but got changed at 3,000
> miles or so...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:31:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Wow an oil thread.
>
> What are people using in the older diesels, e.g. OM617?
>
> Years ago (Marshall Booth era) I used to use M1 20W50. I later got the
> impression that it wasn't so great for diesels anymore, and started
> using Delo and changing more often.
>
> I have M1 20W50 in the 300SD now, mainly because I had about 10 quarts
> sitting in the garage last time I did a change.
>

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

Here's a seller on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Continental-TR7412UB-OR-MP3-Autoradio-m-Bluetooth-USB-AUX-IN-12V-Radio-FM-Tuner-/331579949120?hash=item4d33b48040:g:BhIAAOSwsLtVeb1%20V

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:05 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Ask Becker?  http://beckerautosound.com/
>
> I've tried two different Continental radios.  They are nice and simple,
> and look correct.
>
>
> https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios
>
> I've got a Continental CD7416UB_OR radio in my '87 wagon now, it has
> bluetooth and a CD player.  Had it for a few years, works fine.  User
> interface (programming) is rather clunky, "made in china", but the radio is
> pretty simple and looks good, does what I need with no swimming fish or
> tiny illegible buttons.  Bought it from these guys:
> http://www.egauges.com/category-s/33233.htm
>
> Previously I had a Continental TR7412UB-OR, but it malfunctioned after
> about 6 months.  The radio lost sensitivity and could hardly pull in any
> radio stations.  The bluetooth part worked fine.  I tried to get a warranty
> replacement from the German store sold it to me, but they ultimately
> refused to honor the warranty.  We had email exchange, they said they'd
> replace it just mail it in, but then when I sent it from the US of A
> apparently they had to pay a big customs fee to get the dead radio, they
> declined to do that and stopped answering my emails.  Dead radio was
> shipped back to me.
>
> I would try another TR7412UB-OR, I don't need a CD player, but I'd find a
> seller here in the US of A that would honor a warranty return if I had
> trouble.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)?
>>
>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

My '95 does.  The '87 did not, had to fabricate a converter from a
Crutchfield pigtail that you sent me (fit the '87 wiring harness) and the
pigtail that came with the radio.

The '87 also has the fader roller in the center console to deal with.
-
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Charleston SC


On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:03 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Does the later W124 have ISO connections?
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Becker 780.  But you can also throw a 1480 in there with no
> modifications.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)?
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

Ask Becker?  http://beckerautosound.com/

I've tried two different Continental radios.  They are nice and simple, and
look correct.

https://www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios

I've got a Continental CD7416UB_OR radio in my '87 wagon now, it has
bluetooth and a CD player.  Had it for a few years, works fine.  User
interface (programming) is rather clunky, "made in china", but the radio is
pretty simple and looks good, does what I need with no swimming fish or
tiny illegible buttons.  Bought it from these guys:
http://www.egauges.com/category-s/33233.htm

Previously I had a Continental TR7412UB-OR, but it malfunctioned after
about 6 months.  The radio lost sensitivity and could hardly pull in any
radio stations.  The bluetooth part worked fine.  I tried to get a warranty
replacement from the German store sold it to me, but they ultimately
refused to honor the warranty.  We had email exchange, they said they'd
replace it just mail it in, but then when I sent it from the US of A
apparently they had to pay a big customs fee to get the dead radio, they
declined to do that and stopped answering my emails.  Dead radio was
shipped back to me.

I would try another TR7412UB-OR, I don't need a CD player, but I'd find a
seller here in the US of A that would honor a warranty return if I had
trouble.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)?
>
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Does the later W124 have ISO connections?

-D

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Becker 780.  But you can also throw a 1480 in there with no modifications.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

Just get a spark o matic from Walmart 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> Becker 780.  But you can also throw a 1480 in there with no modifications.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

Becker 780.  But you can also throw a 1480 in there with no modifications.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

It’s a Continental. I bought one for the former 350SDL. Great retrofit for an 
older car, and not expensive, either.

-D

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max bought one that is a repro lookalike drop in that has all the modern 
> features. Not at home to get the link but maybe he can weigh in. It was not 
> very expensive, I was thinking to get one for my daughter but she uses a 
> RF/BT thingie that works well. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)? 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

 When I first read this I thought you meant pepper sauce after an application 
of the pellet gun. ;)
I don't care enough about the lights to bother but it'd probably work up until 
it rained a couple times. The last 9 months its rained every frickin week so I 
don't see that as a great solution, it'd need near constant reapplication...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:30:17 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
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-- Jim

  
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

 I don't think I've ever seen M1 20w50...  I forget where you are but if the 
car starts okay at your temps then I'd suggest its fine. A 61x will never be 
able to go long OCI due to soot levels unless you filter for soot specifically 
which probably isn't worth it on a car not being driven big miles. The last 
240D I had I used M1 15w50 in the summer and M1 5w40 in the winter. The 240D 
before that leaked oil really bad so it got the cheapest 15w40 I could find but 
got changed at 3,000 miles or so...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 1:31:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow an oil thread.

What are people using in the older diesels, e.g. OM617?

Years ago (Marshall Booth era) I used to use M1 20W50. I later got the
impression that it wasn't so great for diesels anymore, and started
using Delo and changing more often.

I have M1 20W50 in the 300SD now, mainly because I had about 10 quarts
sitting in the garage last time I did a change.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Max bought one that is a repro lookalike drop in that has all the modern 
features. Not at home to get the link but maybe he can weigh in. It was not 
very expensive, I was thinking to get one for my daughter but she uses a RF/BT 
thingie that works well. 

--R
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> wrote:
> 
> What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)? 
> 
> Bob R
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Wow an oil thread.

What are people using in the older diesels, e.g. OM617?

Years ago (Marshall Booth era) I used to use M1 20W50. I later got the
impression that it wasn't so great for diesels anymore, and started
using Delo and changing more often.

I have M1 20W50 in the 300SD now, mainly because I had about 10 quarts
sitting in the garage last time I did a change.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Pepper sauce, or something vile-tasting as a paint-over?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] W124 Correct Radio

2019-03-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

What is the correct radio that should be in my W124 (‘87 300D)? 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

 Angie put solar powered lights on the trees in our backyard, think Christmas 
lights with little solar panels. The squirrels are plastic deficient and love 
to eat the wires so we've got these lights with sections that work and some 
that don't. Last fall I went through and spliced a bunch of them back together. 
Apparently shrink wrap is tastier than the insulation as they ate almost all of 
my splices...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 12:06:21 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt already knows about this.

NEW ENGLANDSquirrel boom does a number on maple syrup operationsPublished:
Friday, March 15, 2019

Maple syrup producers have more than the weather to worry about. Frenetic
squirrels are chomping on equipment, crimping the flow of sap at some
operations.

Damage from wildlife — deer, bear woodpeckers and squirrels — is not
unusual for maple producers, but this year an abundant population of
squirrels is disrupting plastic sap tubing and spouts at some sugaring
operations in New England.

That means producers must go out into sometimes deep snow to find and
replace the damaged lines that transport the sap from the maple trees or
other chewed or missing equipment, which producers say can be
time-consuming and expensive.

"Occasionally they declare war. And it seems like they have this year,"
said Ruth Goodrich of Goodrich's Maple Farm in Danville, Vt., the largest
maple-producing state.

The boom in the squirrel population is mostly tied to an increase in food
source, such as acorns and other mast from trees, said Mark Isselhardt,
maple specialist with the University of Vermont Extension. But the
squirrels aren't causing problems for all producers, he said.

The varmints haven't been any worse than normal this year for Bascom Maple
Farms in Alstead, N.H.

"We haven't had a lot of snow cover," said Bruce Bascom. "We've only got
about a foot of snow here. I think the squirrels are not having that hard a
winter."

But Lyle Merrifield of Gorham, Maine, said he's had to fix about 60 spots
in his operation damaged by the chomping critters.

The trouble is the squirrels could take one bite of tubing and move another
100 feet, where they could take another bite, making the damage hard to
find, said Merrifield, who is president of the Maine Maple Producers
Association.

"I've heard a lot of people talk about squirrel damage, so it's probably
the worst we've seen, combined with the deep snow, just that combination,"
he said.

There's no way to completely control the squirrels, Isselhardt said. *—
Lisa Rathke, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

2019-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

I see a market for autonomous raptor models that can fly around their 
properties providing hours of fun

--FT
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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Curt already knows about this.
> 
> NEW ENGLANDSquirrel boom does a number on maple syrup operationsPublished:
> Friday, March 15, 2019
> 
> Maple syrup producers have more than the weather to worry about. Frenetic
> squirrels are chomping on equipment, crimping the flow of sap at some
> operations.
> 
> Damage from wildlife — deer, bear woodpeckers and squirrels — is not
> unusual for maple producers, but this year an abundant population of
> squirrels is disrupting plastic sap tubing and spouts at some sugaring
> operations in New England.
> 
> That means producers must go out into sometimes deep snow to find and
> replace the damaged lines that transport the sap from the maple trees or
> other chewed or missing equipment, which producers say can be
> time-consuming and expensive.
> 
> "Occasionally they declare war. And it seems like they have this year,"
> said Ruth Goodrich of Goodrich's Maple Farm in Danville, Vt., the largest
> maple-producing state.
> 
> The boom in the squirrel population is mostly tied to an increase in food
> source, such as acorns and other mast from trees, said Mark Isselhardt,
> maple specialist with the University of Vermont Extension. But the
> squirrels aren't causing problems for all producers, he said.
> 
> The varmints haven't been any worse than normal this year for Bascom Maple
> Farms in Alstead, N.H.
> 
> "We haven't had a lot of snow cover," said Bruce Bascom. "We've only got
> about a foot of snow here. I think the squirrels are not having that hard a
> winter."
> 
> But Lyle Merrifield of Gorham, Maine, said he's had to fix about 60 spots
> in his operation damaged by the chomping critters.
> 
> The trouble is the squirrels could take one bite of tubing and move another
> 100 feet, where they could take another bite, making the damage hard to
> find, said Merrifield, who is president of the Maine Maple Producers
> Association.
> 
> "I've heard a lot of people talk about squirrel damage, so it's probably
> the worst we've seen, combined with the deep snow, just that combination,"
> he said.
> 
> There's no way to completely control the squirrels, Isselhardt said. *—
> Lisa Rathke, Associated Press*
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[MBZ] OT: New England Squirrel Boom

Curt already knows about this.

NEW ENGLANDSquirrel boom does a number on maple syrup operationsPublished:
Friday, March 15, 2019

Maple syrup producers have more than the weather to worry about. Frenetic
squirrels are chomping on equipment, crimping the flow of sap at some
operations.

Damage from wildlife — deer, bear woodpeckers and squirrels — is not
unusual for maple producers, but this year an abundant population of
squirrels is disrupting plastic sap tubing and spouts at some sugaring
operations in New England.

That means producers must go out into sometimes deep snow to find and
replace the damaged lines that transport the sap from the maple trees or
other chewed or missing equipment, which producers say can be
time-consuming and expensive.

"Occasionally they declare war. And it seems like they have this year,"
said Ruth Goodrich of Goodrich's Maple Farm in Danville, Vt., the largest
maple-producing state.

The boom in the squirrel population is mostly tied to an increase in food
source, such as acorns and other mast from trees, said Mark Isselhardt,
maple specialist with the University of Vermont Extension. But the
squirrels aren't causing problems for all producers, he said.

The varmints haven't been any worse than normal this year for Bascom Maple
Farms in Alstead, N.H.

"We haven't had a lot of snow cover," said Bruce Bascom. "We've only got
about a foot of snow here. I think the squirrels are not having that hard a
winter."

But Lyle Merrifield of Gorham, Maine, said he's had to fix about 60 spots
in his operation damaged by the chomping critters.

The trouble is the squirrels could take one bite of tubing and move another
100 feet, where they could take another bite, making the damage hard to
find, said Merrifield, who is president of the Maine Maple Producers
Association.

"I've heard a lot of people talk about squirrel damage, so it's probably
the worst we've seen, combined with the deep snow, just that combination,"
he said.

There's no way to completely control the squirrels, Isselhardt said. *—
Lisa Rathke, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] Mitch Or Michael

Uh oh.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 6:34 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Been flagged for removal...
>
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> > On March 17, 2019 at 2:58 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/d/grand-rapids-2007-mercedes-benz-62l-v8/6843551938.html
> >
> > I thought it was a scam, but I think he left a zero off. The number
> comes back to a VoIP land line in Ada/Grand Rapids.
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Dan - I have a couple Becker Olympia cassette players if you do decide on a
vintage radio.  Contact me off list if interested.:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Becker-Olympia-Cassette-Player-Europa-II-Grand-Prix-Mercedes-Porsche-Vintage/112524145132?hash=item1a32f631ec:g:vmMAAOSwtxZZkM9P

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:05 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Let her fly up, I'll fly down to DC and meet you for that segment. ;)
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019, 8:49:27 AM EDT, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living
> room her favorite color.😬
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train
> if the spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from
> the DC area to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about
> such an adventure…
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> >>
> >> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
> >>>
> >>> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is
> complete, so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
> >>>
> >>> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt
> Köln TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs
> to be rebuilt ($400.00).
> >>>
> >>> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct
> vintage that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or
> faceplate.
> >>>
> >>> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to
> come by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with
> a modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio
> of the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt
> and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the
> presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the
> car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a
> functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.
> >>>
> >>> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable
> (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what
> you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I
> have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete enough
> that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
> 
>  On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

 Let her fly up, I'll fly down to DC and meet you for that segment. ;)
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 8:49:27 AM EDT, Dimitri via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living room 
her favorite color.😬

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if the 
> spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the DC area 
> to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such an 
> adventure… 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
>>> 
>>> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is complete, 
>>> so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
>>> 
>>> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln 
>>> TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be 
>>> rebuilt ($400.00).
>>> 
>>> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
>>> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
>>> 
>>> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come 
>>> by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a 
>>> modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of 
>>> the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt 
>>> and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the 
>>> presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the 
>>> car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a 
>>> functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.
>>> 
>>> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable 
>>> (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what 
>>> you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I 
>>> have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete enough 
>>> that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

 Hide a modern radio under the seat, get one that has a remote and bluetooth, 
no one need know its there...
-Curt

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 8:29:43 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….

I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is complete, so 
I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.

I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln TR de 
Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be rebuilt 
($400.00).

I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage that 
seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.

The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come by 
and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a modern 
retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of the correct 
vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt and pay out the 
butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the presence of a radio or 
lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the car, this is not a high 
priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a functional state is also a 
deterrent from pursuing this approach.

Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable (complete) 
radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what you’ve got. It’s 
getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I have an Okie Acres 
collection of radios, none of which are complete enough that I can actually 
have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.

-D

> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

And there is your leverage!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Going to the ‘Q is also a trip to her sister’s house in Boston. Four days of 
> fun with the relatives, one of those is mine. A small price to pay.
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> He could always use “if you loved me you would let me go to the Q” but that 
>> might only work one way
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah but they’re fickle so I bet she has a new color in mind already, 
>>> besides, don’t women like diamonds or something?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Already did that when we moved into the house.
 
 -D
 
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living 
> room her favorite color.😬
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!


dingdingding we have a winner winner chicken dinner!

--FT

On 3/18/19 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Going to the ‘Q is also a trip to her sister’s house in Boston. Four days of 
fun with the relatives, one of those is mine. A small price to pay.
-D



On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

He could always use “if you loved me you would let me go to the Q” but that 
might only work one way

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

Yeah but they’re fickle so I bet she has a new color in mind already, besides, 
don’t women like diamonds or something?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Already did that when we moved into the house.

-D


On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:

Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living room 
her favorite color.😬

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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Going to the ‘Q is also a trip to her sister’s house in Boston. Four days of 
fun with the relatives, one of those is mine. A small price to pay.
-D


> On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He could always use “if you loved me you would let me go to the Q” but that 
> might only work one way
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah but they’re fickle so I bet she has a new color in mind already, 
>> besides, don’t women like diamonds or something?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Already did that when we moved into the house.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
 
 Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living 
 room her favorite color.😬
 
 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

2019-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

He could always use “if you loved me you would let me go to the Q” but that 
might only work one way

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah but they’re fickle so I bet she has a new color in mind already, 
> besides, don’t women like diamonds or something?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Already did that when we moved into the house.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living 
>>> room her favorite color.😬
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if 
 the spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the 
 DC area to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such 
 an adventure… 
 
 -D
 
 
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
>> 
>> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is 
>> complete, so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
>> 
>> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt 
>> Köln TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also 
>> needs to be rebuilt ($400.00).
>> 
>> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
>> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
>> 
>> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to 
>> come by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going 
>> with a modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete 
>> radio of the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the 
>> Blaupunkt rebuilt and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting 
>> plate. However, as the presence of a radio or lack thereof does not 
>> prevent me from enjoying the car, this is not a high priority - the cost 
>> to get the ones I have to a functional state is also a deterrent from 
>> pursuing this approach.
>> 
>> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable 
>> (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what 
>> you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I 
>> have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete 
>> enough that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as 
>> a whole.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Yeah but they’re fickle so I bet she has a new color in mind already, besides, 
don’t women like diamonds or something?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Already did that when we moved into the house.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living room 
>> her favorite color.😬
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if 
>>> the spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the 
>>> DC area to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such 
>>> an adventure… 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
 
 Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
> 
> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is 
> complete, so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
> 
> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln 
> TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to 
> be rebuilt ($400.00).
> 
> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
> 
> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to 
> come by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going 
> with a modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete 
> radio of the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt 
> rebuilt and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, 
> as the presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from 
> enjoying the car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones 
> I have to a functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this 
> approach.
> 
> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable 
> (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what 
> you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I 
> have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete 
> enough that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as 
> a whole.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!


Hahaha!   Seems we've heard that before.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 7:49 AM:

BZZZT! Wrong!

This one’s a keeper. Only way I would let it go after all the work I’ve put 
into it is if I found a much nicer one for a similar price…I really don’t want 
to do all of this over again. I enjoy it, but it’s a major undertaking.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Floyd has a 3-D milling machine, I'll bet he can fabricate a face-plate for
half the going market rate of an authentic face plate...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:29 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
>
> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is
> complete, so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
>
> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln
> TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be
> rebuilt ($400.00).
>
> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage
> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Already did that when we moved into the house.

-D

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living room 
> her favorite color.😬
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if 
>> the spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the DC 
>> area to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such an 
>> adventure… 
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….

 I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is 
 complete, so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.

 I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln 
 TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be 
 rebuilt ($400.00).

 I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
 that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.

 The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come 
 by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a 
 modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of 
 the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt 
 and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the 
 presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the 
 car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a 
 functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.

 Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable 
 (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what 
 you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I 
 have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete enough 
 that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.

 -D

> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

BZZZT! Wrong!

This one’s a keeper. Only way I would let it go after all the work I’ve put 
into it is if I found a much nicer one for a similar price…I really don’t want 
to do all of this over again. I enjoy it, but it’s a major undertaking.

-D

 
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He won't have it that long.  The meter is ticking
> 
> Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 7:34 AM:
>> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Ah come on. Promise her something in exchange, like painting the living room 
her favorite color.😬

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if the 
> spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the DC area 
> to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such an 
> adventure… 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
>>> 
>>> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is complete, 
>>> so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
>>> 
>>> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln 
>>> TR de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be 
>>> rebuilt ($400.00).
>>> 
>>> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
>>> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
>>> 
>>> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come 
>>> by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a 
>>> modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of 
>>> the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt 
>>> and pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the 
>>> presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the 
>>> car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a 
>>> functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.
>>> 
>>> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable 
>>> (complete) radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what 
>>> you’ve got. It’s getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I 
>>> have an Okie Acres collection of radios, none of which are complete enough 
>>> that I can actually have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!

Point well taken. I would almost consider putting it on the auto train if the 
spouse wasn’t joining me. Then I would only have to drive it from the DC area 
to the ‘Q. I don’t think she would be terribly excited about such an adventure… 

-D


> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
>> 
>> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is complete, 
>> so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
>> 
>> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln TR 
>> de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be 
>> rebuilt ($400.00).
>> 
>> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage 
>> that seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
>> 
>> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come 
>> by and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a 
>> modern retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of 
>> the correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt and 
>> pay out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the 
>> presence of a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the 
>> car, this is not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a 
>> functional state is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.
>> 
>> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable (complete) 
>> radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what you’ve got. It’s 
>> getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I have an Okie Acres 
>> collection of radios, none of which are complete enough that I can actually 
>> have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fantastic Finnie Fun!


He won't have it that long.  The meter is ticking

Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 3/18/19 7:34 AM:

Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!





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Well a lack of a radio will not prevent you from driving it to the Q!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could somehow get the car to the Chowdah Q….
> 
> I currently have two radios in my possession, however, neither is complete, 
> so I’m sort of in limbo on the subject.
> 
> I have the original radio that was installed in the car, a Blaupunkt Köln TR 
> de Luxe, but no mounting plate or faceplate. The radio also needs to be 
> rebuilt ($400.00).
> 
> I have a Becker Europa TG, also a tube type radio of the correct vintage that 
> seems to be working, but again, no mounting hardware or faceplate.
> 
> The faceplates and mounting hardware for both radios are difficult to come by 
> and expensive when they can be found. I have considered going with a modern 
> retrofit (horrors!!) or just trying to scrounge a complete radio of the 
> correct vintage. Worst case scenario, I’ll get the Blaupunkt rebuilt and pay 
> out the butt for a faceplate and mounting plate. However, as the presence of 
> a radio or lack thereof does not prevent me from enjoying the car, this is 
> not a high priority - the cost to get the ones I have to a functional state 
> is also a deterrent from pursuing this approach.
> 
> Along those same lines, if anyone out there might have a suitable (complete) 
> radio or the parts I’m looking for, please PM me with what you’ve got. It’s 
> getting to the point where I am starting to feel like I have an Okie Acres 
> collection of radios, none of which are complete enough that I can actually 
> have a working radio out of the collection as a whole.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow - beautiful.  Wat sort of radio do you have in mind?
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:17 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow. That looks great Dan. Attaboy.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
> 
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