Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Dilute vinegar is useful for urine smell (the acid attacks the proteins in 
urine).  There are also several commercial enzyme preparations.

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> On Sat, August 8, 2020 5:31 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > The carpet is out and it's down to the concrete and still stinks
> > horribly bad.
> >
> 
> Concrete opens up possibilities unless I'm mistaken.
> Wouldn't want to acid wash it, but mopping with bleach or peroxide and water
> and letting it sit a while shouldn't hurt it. Once the floor's clean, maybe 
> ozone
> for the walls/ceiling?
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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
 >There will definitely be a small claims case. 


You'll win a judgement, but good luck collecting from people that have no 
income. 

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Re: [MBZ] How good is good enough?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 02:14:35 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm with Rick, it needs to hold 15 psi indefinitely.  More leaks to
> find and fix.  Time for soapy water perhaps.

Well, OK. I'll break the soapy water in my handy, dandy dispenser out on
Monday ...


Craig


> > Craig asks:
> > 
> >> Is this good enough to call it quits, or should I look some more?
> > 
> > You still have a leak Somewhere.
> > 
> > Rick

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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There will definitely be a small claims case.  They won't pay then I 
will put a lien on their pot growing business they supposedly own.  Have 
not got into that yet.  They were apparently growing pot in the garage 
which caused black mold on the ceiling .  At the back of the properly 
there is a massive pile of potting soil that was dumped that I assume 
was from their pot plants. There is a storage building in the back, they 
cut a hole in the side of to run some sort of vent out I assume, so it 
looks like they were growing in there as well.  Looks to have been over 
their legal limit of what they were allowed for personal use but 
regardless this was never approved by us.


On 8/8/2020 9:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I like the way you're thinking, a small claims court finding in your favor may 
cover your expenses, and you won't need a lawyer I think.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 8, 2020 9:38:09 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :


When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor costs. If 
you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for the label but time is 
money. When it comes time to sue renters for damages, how do you come up with a 
rate for your labor? Or can you claim labor if doing that work yourself?

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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have an addendum to my leases which lists specific damages and cost to 
repair. These damages include broken window panes and holes in walls which have 
a set price depending on size, broken balusters, etc. All other damages not in 
the list will be charged at a labor rate of $50 per hour and I specify that the 
landlord may perform himself or hire out. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor costs. 
> If you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for the label but 
> time is money. When it comes time to sue renters for damages, how do you come 
> up with a rate for your labor? Or can you claim labor if doing that work 
> yourself?
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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I like the way you're thinking, a small claims court finding in your favor may 
cover your expenses, and you won't need a lawyer I think.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 8, 2020 9:38:09 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor costs. If 
> you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for the label but time 
> is money. When it comes time to sue renters for damages, how do you come up 
> with a rate for your labor? Or can you claim labor if doing that work 
> yourself?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How good is good enough?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm with Rick, it needs to hold 15 psi indefinitely.  More leaks to find and 
fix.  Time for soapy water perhaps.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 8, 2020 10:03:36 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes :

> Craig asks:
> 
>> Is this good enough to call it quits, or should I look some more?
> 
> You still have a leak Somewhere.
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Pets aren't the problem, free-ranging _indoor_ pets are the problem!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] How good is good enough?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig asks:

>Is this good enough to call it quits, or should I look some more?

You still have a leak Somewhere. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

We got a guy coming by tomorrow to look at this wood rot situation. If it’s 
cheap enough I may let him cut out the floor and replace. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Prevailing rate.
> 
> Get a couple of estimates to repair the damage, or track your hours and
> talk to some contractors about how they bill time.
> 
> Doesn't matter who does the work.
> 
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor
>> costs. If you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for
>> the label but time is money. When it comes time to sue renters for
>> damages, how do you come up with a rate for your labor? Or can you
>> claim labor if doing that work yourself?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Be bought some of that this evening. It was $50 for a jug. Will give that a go 
and proceed from there. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need to get that enzymatic cleaner that neutralizes pet odor. Let it
> soak into the concrete for a while. Then scrub with bleach and paint
> with Kilz or Zinsser Bulls-Eye.
> 
> Then never allow pets again. Write into the next lease a $10K penalty
> and immediate lease termination if you catch them with a pet. We had a
> dog because the kids begged for one. The dog's health care cost more
> than the kids, and after it was finally housebroken we had to replace
> all the carpet in the main living area.
> 
> She was a sweet dog but never again. No pets. Ever.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The carpet is out and it’s down to the concrete and still stinks horribly 
>> bad. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Previous owners shut their dogs up in my sunroom.
>>> I ended up ripping out the carpet, mopping with bleach, and painting the
>>> subfloor with Kilz before installing new pad and carpet.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A question for land lords

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Prevailing rate.

Get a couple of estimates to repair the damage, or track your hours and
talk to some contractors about how they bill time.

Doesn't matter who does the work.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor
> costs. If you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for
> the label but time is money. When it comes time to sue renters for
> damages, how do you come up with a rate for your labor? Or can you
> claim labor if doing that work yourself?
>
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[MBZ] A question for land lords

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

When repairing property and paying somebody to do it, you pay labor costs. If 
you do the work yourself, you are not paying cash out for the label but time is 
money. When it comes time to sue renters for damages, how do you come up with a 
rate for your labor? Or can you claim labor if doing that work yourself?

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You need to get that enzymatic cleaner that neutralizes pet odor. Let it
soak into the concrete for a while. Then scrub with bleach and paint
with Kilz or Zinsser Bulls-Eye.

Then never allow pets again. Write into the next lease a $10K penalty
and immediate lease termination if you catch them with a pet. We had a
dog because the kids begged for one. The dog's health care cost more
than the kids, and after it was finally housebroken we had to replace
all the carpet in the main living area.

She was a sweet dog but never again. No pets. Ever.

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> The carpet is out and it’s down to the concrete and still stinks horribly 
> bad. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Previous owners shut their dogs up in my sunroom.
>> I ended up ripping out the carpet, mopping with bleach, and painting the
>> subfloor with Kilz before installing new pad and carpet.
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

If a rental property doesn’t make a decent profit above and beyond it’s 
carrying costs or doesn’t appreciate well then it’s a pointless investment in 
my opinion. I have one property that appreciates poorly. They all make a 
profit. I’m trying to sell the one that’s appreciating poorly even though it 
makes a good profit.

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance, taxes etc. 
> We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to do the 3 year plan then 
> sell. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing into the rental 
>> to pay down your current mortgage. The amount you're spending can't possibly 
>> be offset by the rent you're getting or the equity you're building...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion from around 
>> a window.
>> 
>> As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I figured out 
>> what the cause was. The renters did not have their washing machine connected 
>> properly and water was constantly leaking behind it. I suspect it might have 
>> been leaking down the wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that 
>> wall where washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from 
>> the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction under the 
>> house so could have rotted floor joists as well. 
>> 
>> Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take equity and pay 
>> off/pay down our current house then refi what is left into a 10 year. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kaleb says:
>>> 
 Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub flooring 
 just soaked up the moisture.
>>> 
>>> Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?
>>> 
 I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it for 
 whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.
>>> 
>>> Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one You 
>>> could probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds. No 
>>> house payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a 
>>> 201x E250.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes good advice.

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> While you’ve got the floor up just sister the joists where they’re soft and 
> call it done.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next 
>> renters that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from dogs. 
>> Will never allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we just put in 
>> before they moved in. Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the 
>> utility room. Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 
>> 2 feet by 1.5 feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out. This 
>> is strange because there are no water sources in the area. After cutting out 
>> the bad section got under the house to discover more rot. It extends further 
>> toward and under an adjoining wall and closet. The copper lines from from 
>> outside the house to the ac unit then right up thru the floor/wall in this 
>> area to the attic. No insulation is on the pipes. Area is very moist and the 
>> crap particle board they used for sub flooring just soaked up the moisture. 
>> Shouldn’t these be insulated all the way to the unit? I’m thinking maybe the 
>> pipe sweating over the years has rotten this out. The floor joists can 
>> probably still be used but do have some soft spots starting at the bottoms. 
>> I’m going to have to figure out why this area is getting wet then decide if 
>> I can even fix it. About all I could do is replace the area of the floor 
>> that gets traffic but it would still be rotted out under that wall and into 
>> the closet. Fortunately the closed has a floor built up off the main floor 
>> as it is a pantry. The idiots who built the house have the ac drain pipe 
>> running down this walk in question and drains into a sewer pipe under the 
>> closet area. Drain pipe comes out of the wall across the subfloor of the 
>> closet then down to the sewer pipe. That is why the 2nd floor is built up 
>> from the main sub floor to allow the pipe to pass. Why they didn’t just run 
>> it straight down to the crawl space then outside I have no clue. I’m sick of 
>> messing with this house and about ready to just dump it for whatever I can 
>> get or let the bank have it. 
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[MBZ] How good is good enough?

[Craig via Mercedes]

I retested our '93 E320D's cooling system today with the kluged air
pressure tester. After I found a way to plug the air inlet to the
pressure regulator, I observed the system leaked from about 10 psi to
about 2 psi in about 10 minutes.

Is this good enough to call it quits, or should I look some more?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh Jewish lightening I think.  I knew what that was but completely 
forgot until you mentioned that.


On 8/8/2020 8:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I believe he suggested a culturally insensitive approach that would be similar, 
yes.

Hee.

-D


On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

Did he say burn it down?  We did tell the neighbor if they saw that it was ever 
on fire to NOT call the fire dept.

On 8/8/2020 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Then maybe Rick’s idea wasn’t such a bad one?

-D


On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

My bad its a $4800 deductible.  Basically catastrophic in case the house burns 
down or gets blown away.

On 8/8/2020 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see what they 
say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am sure if you were 
paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed that.

On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:

Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is their #1 
claim. They even have water detectors you put under your floors that connect to 
the wifi and alert you to problems; they came out and gave us a bunch. File a 
claim and get it fixed.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

 What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
 taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
 do the 3 year plan then sell.

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 > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
 >
 > 
 > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
 into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
 you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
 getting or the equity you're building...
 >
 > -Curt
 >
 > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 >
 >
 > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
 from around a window.
 >
 > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
 figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
 washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
 leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
 wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
 washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
 the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
 under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
 >
 > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
 equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
 left into a 10 year.
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
 > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 > >
 > > Kaleb says:
 > >
 > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
 sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
 > >
 > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
 while back?
 > >
 > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
 dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
 > >
 > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
 one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
 with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
 building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I believe he suggested a culturally insensitive approach that would be similar, 
yes.

Hee.

-D

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did he say burn it down?  We did tell the neighbor if they saw that it was 
> ever on fire to NOT call the fire dept.
> 
> On 8/8/2020 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Then maybe Rick’s idea wasn’t such a bad one?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My bad its a $4800 deductible.  Basically catastrophic in case the house 
>>> burns down or gets blown away.
>>> 
>>> On 8/8/2020 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see what 
 they say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am sure if 
 you were paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed that.
 
 On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is 
> their #1 claim. They even have water detectors you put under your floors 
> that connect to the wifi and alert you to problems; they came out and 
> gave us a bunch. File a claim and get it fixed.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
> taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
> do the 3 year plan then sell.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond  > wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
> into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
> you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
> getting or the equity you're building...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
> from around a window.
> >
> > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
> figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
> washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
> leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
> wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
> washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
> the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
> under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
> >
> > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
> equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
> left into a 10 year.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kaleb says:
> > >
> > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
> sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
> > >
> > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
> while back?
> > >
> > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
> dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
> > >
> > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
> one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
> with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
> building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Did he say burn it down?  We did tell the neighbor if they saw that it 
was ever on fire to NOT call the fire dept.


On 8/8/2020 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Then maybe Rick’s idea wasn’t such a bad one?

-D


On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

My bad its a $4800 deductible.  Basically catastrophic in case the house burns 
down or gets blown away.

On 8/8/2020 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see what they 
say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am sure if you were 
paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed that.

On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:

Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is their #1 
claim. They even have water detectors you put under your floors that connect to 
the wifi and alert you to problems; they came out and gave us a bunch. File a 
claim and get it fixed.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

 What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
 taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
 do the 3 year plan then sell.

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
 >
 > 
 > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
 into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
 you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
 getting or the equity you're building...
 >
 > -Curt
 >
 > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 >
 >
 > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
 from around a window.
 >
 > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
 figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
 washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
 leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
 wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
 washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
 the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
 under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
 >
 > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
 equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
 left into a 10 year.
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
 > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 > >
 > > Kaleb says:
 > >
 > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
 sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
 > >
 > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
 while back?
 > >
 > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
 dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
 > >
 > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
 one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
 with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
 building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
 > >
 > > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Then maybe Rick’s idea wasn’t such a bad one?

-D

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My bad its a $4800 deductible.  Basically catastrophic in case the house 
> burns down or gets blown away.
> 
> On 8/8/2020 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see what 
>> they say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am sure if you 
>> were paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed that.
>> 
>> On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
>>> Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is their 
>>> #1 claim. They even have water detectors you put under your floors that 
>>> connect to the wifi and alert you to problems; they came out and gave us a 
>>> bunch. File a claim and get it fixed.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
>>> taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
>>> do the 3 year plan then sell.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
>>> into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
>>> you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
>>> getting or the equity you're building...
>>> >
>>> > -Curt
>>> >
>>> > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
>>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
>>> from around a window.
>>> >
>>> > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
>>> figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
>>> washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
>>> leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
>>> wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
>>> washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
>>> the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
>>> under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
>>> >
>>> > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
>>> equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
>>> left into a 10 year.
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Kaleb says:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
>>> sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
>>> > >
>>> > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
>>> while back?
>>> > >
>>> > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
>>> dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
>>> one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
>>> with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
>>> building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
>>> > >
>>> > > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My bad its a $4800 deductible.  Basically catastrophic in case the house 
burns down or gets blown away.


On 8/8/2020 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see 
what they say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am 
sure if you were paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed 
that.


On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is 
their #1 claim. They even have water detectors you put under your 
floors that connect to the wifi and alert you to problems; they came 
out and gave us a bunch. File a claim and get it fixed.


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


    What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
    taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
    do the 3 year plan then sell.

    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
    >
    > 
    > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
    into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
    you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
    getting or the equity you're building...
    >
    > -Curt
    >
    > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
    Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> 
wrote:

    >
    >
    > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
    from around a window.
    >
    > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
    figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
    washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
    leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
    wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
    washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
    the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
    under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
    >
    > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
    equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
    left into a 10 year.
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
    mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
    > >
    > > Kaleb says:
    > >
    > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
    sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
    > >
    > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
    while back?
    > >
    > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
    dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
    > >
    > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
    one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
    with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
    building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
    > >
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Hmm, I didn't think about that.  I may have to file a claim and see what 
they say.  We do have a big $2k deductible I believe which I am sure if 
you were paying somebody to completely fix it all would exceed that.


On 8/8/2020 6:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is 
their #1 claim. They even have water detectors you put under your 
floors that connect to the wifi and alert you to problems; they came 
out and gave us a bunch. File a claim and get it fixed.


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance,
taxes etc. We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to
do the 3 year plan then sell.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> 
> Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing
into the rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount
you're spending can't possibly be offset by the rent you're
getting or the equity you're building...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>
> The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion
from around a window.
>
> As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I
figured out what the cause was. The renters did not have their
washing machine connected properly and water was constantly
leaking behind it. I suspect it might have been leaking down the
wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that wall where
washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from
the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction
under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
>
> Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take
equity and pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is
left into a 10 year.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Kaleb says:
> >
> >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for
sub flooring just soaked up the moisture.
> >
> > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a
while back?
> >
> >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just
dump it for whatever I can get or let >the bank have it.
> >
> > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this
one You could probably pay off where ever you want to live
with the proceeds. No house payments would go a long way to
building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
> >
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is a thought.  These people paid about a $800 pet fee which was non 
refundable anyway, but it did not cover the expense of carpet.


Tomorrow I have to tear up the subfloor tomorrow and get that replaced 
and we are probably going to go back in with those peel and stick vinyl 
tiles.  They look decent as we did it in a bathroom at our house.  After 
going back and forth replacing the carpet in the whole house is simply 
not in the budget at this time.  They have a seam down the middle of the 
living room they somehow managed to rip loose and not sure if it could 
be fixed. Quotes for carpet cleaning  are running $600+ with no 
guarantee it will do any good.  We decided to rip out the carpet 
ourselves and install that laminate for the entire down stairs.  The 
area upstairs above the garage is not too bad so that will have to do. 
We should hopefully be able to get it ready by next weekend 
(hopefully).  We still have to repaint the front door due to dogs 
clawing it up but that kind of stuff may have to wait until they move 
in.  Also, it appears the renters never really maintained the back 
yard.  This is in a wooded area and if not maintained it will grow up 
with saplings.  I am literally going to have to get the tractor over 
there and brush hog it.  They also had a huge area in the center of the 
yard that was there burn pile.  If is full of what appears to be old 
furniture they burned which left all the springs there, all sorts of 
other metal items, glass bottles.  You name it, they tried to burn it.  
I am going to have to use the tractor to scoop this up and do something 
with it.  It is quite frankly dangerous.


On 8/8/2020 6:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Dogs/cats require 10k deposit. No exceptions. Pays for the new carpet.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:31 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
wrote:


Once you've done all the bleaching and etc., if you can paint the surface
Killz is your friend.
Our old camper had been used as a rabbit hutch.  Only became apparent as
the weather
warmed, we had bought it in the dead of winter.  What wood wasn't easy to
replace was bleached,
then painted with (oil-based) Killz, then painted with a finish color.
Never smelled bad again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The rental

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Typically homeowners covers water damage. The usaa guy told me it is their
#1 claim. They even have water detectors you put under your floors that
connect to the wifi and alert you to problems; they came out and gave us a
bunch. File a claim and get it fixed.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 2:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance, taxes etc.
> We have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to do the 3 year plan
> then sell.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing into the
> rental to pay down your current mortgage. The amount you're spending can't
> possibly be offset by the rent you're getting or the equity you're
> building...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion from
> around a window.
> >
> > As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I figured out
> what the cause was. The renters did not have their washing machine
> connected properly and water was constantly leaking behind it. I suspect it
> might have been leaking down the wall at the washer connection. Entire
> floor along that wall where washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove
> all the tile from the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that
> direction under the house so could have rotted floor joists as well.
> >
> > Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take equity and
> pay off/pay down our current house then refi what is left into a 10 year.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kaleb says:
> > >
> > >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub
> flooring just soaked up the moisture.
> > >
> > > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?
> > >
> > >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it
> for whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.
> > >
> > > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one
> You could probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds.
> No house payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a
> 201x E250.
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Dogs/cats require 10k deposit. No exceptions. Pays for the new carpet.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 3:31 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> Once you've done all the bleaching and etc., if you can paint the surface
> Killz is your friend.
> Our old camper had been used as a rabbit hutch.  Only became apparent as
> the weather
> warmed, we had bought it in the dead of winter.  What wood wasn't easy to
> replace was bleached,
> then painted with (oil-based) Killz, then painted with a finish color.
> Never smelled bad again.
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Once you've done all the bleaching and etc., if you can paint the surface Killz 
is your friend.
Our old camper had been used as a rabbit hutch.  Only became apparent as the 
weather
warmed, we had bought it in the dead of winter.  What wood wasn't easy to 
replace was bleached,
then painted with (oil-based) Killz, then painted with a finish color.  Never 
smelled bad again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2000 Mercedes e320 wagon

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Snatch that up quick. Offer $800 as is. Then check codes and replace connector 
first, see if that works, if not then the conductor plate. $250 for the works 
and 3hr or so work. You’ll have a great car for cheap. 

--FT
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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Jewish lightning.


Too drastic?   

Rick

 

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, August 8, 2020 5:31 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> The carpet is out and it's down to the concrete and still stinks
> horribly bad.
>

Concrete opens up possibilities unless I'm mistaken.
Wouldn't want to acid wash it, but mopping with bleach or peroxide and
water and letting it sit a while shouldn't hurt it. Once the floor's
clean, maybe ozone for the walls/ceiling?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2000 Mercedes e320 wagon

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Clear the transmission codes, and *maybe* you don't have to drive it home
in 2nd gear. 2nd gear works for local driving, I put nearly 40 miles on my
W140 in 2nd the day I bought it. Cruised about 40mph IIRC.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 2000 Mercedes e320 wagon

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The carpet is out and it’s down to the concrete and still stinks horribly bad. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Previous owners shut their dogs up in my sunroom.
> I ended up ripping out the carpet, mopping with bleach, and painting the
> subfloor with Kilz before installing new pad and carpet.
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, we had to give them a 24 hour notice and they were somehow amazing at 
hiding all this crap. I spent a few hours over there a while back replacing an 
oven and didn’t smell anything. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Didn’t you ever stop by and inspect this place while they were renting?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On the back of the house is an enclosed porch that is now an office. It is 
>> connected to central heat and air and had carpet. Renters took it upon 
>> themselves to rip out the carpet. I found out why. It smells like a dog 
>> kennel in there. It is so bad it is causing the rest of the house to stink. 
>> We mopped it down with some sort of citrus stuff with no effect. I think 
>> tomorrow I will bring my ozone generator over I use on cars and see what it 
>> will do. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Previous owners shut their dogs up in my sunroom.
I ended up ripping out the carpet, mopping with bleach, and painting the
subfloor with Kilz before installing new pad and carpet.

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There is this stuff Nature's Remedy that is pretty good at cleaning up 
smells.  You can get a big jug at pet stores.  Or try some hydrogen peroxide


-_FT

On 8/8/20 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

On the back of the house is an enclosed porch that is now an office. It is 
connected to central heat and air and had carpet. Renters took it upon 
themselves to rip out the carpet. I found out why. It smells like a dog kennel 
in there. It is so bad it is causing the rest of the house to stink. We mopped 
it down with some sort of citrus stuff with no effect. I think tomorrow I will 
bring my ozone generator over I use on cars and see what it will do.

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Re: [MBZ] Dog smell

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Didn’t you ever stop by and inspect this place while they were renting?

-D

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the back of the house is an enclosed porch that is now an office. It is 
> connected to central heat and air and had carpet. Renters took it upon 
> themselves to rip out the carpet. I found out why. It smells like a dog 
> kennel in there. It is so bad it is causing the rest of the house to stink. 
> We mopped it down with some sort of citrus stuff with no effect. I think 
> tomorrow I will bring my ozone generator over I use on cars and see what it 
> will do. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Dog smell

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

On the back of the house is an enclosed porch that is now an office. It is 
connected to central heat and air and had carpet. Renters took it upon 
themselves to rip out the carpet. I found out why. It smells like a dog kennel 
in there. It is so bad it is causing the rest of the house to stink. We mopped 
it down with some sort of citrus stuff with no effect. I think tomorrow I will 
bring my ozone generator over I use on cars and see what it will do. 

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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What we get for rent each month covers the mortgage, insurance, taxes etc. We 
have a lot of equity in it which is why we want to do the 3 year plan then 
sell. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing into the rental 
> to pay down your current mortgage. The amount you're spending can't possibly 
> be offset by the rent you're getting or the equity you're building...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion from around a 
> window.
> 
> As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I figured out what 
> the cause was. The renters did not have their washing machine connected 
> properly and water was constantly leaking behind it. I suspect it might have 
> been leaking down the wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that 
> wall where washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from 
> the room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction under the 
> house so could have rotted floor joists as well. 
> 
> Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take equity and pay 
> off/pay down our current house then refi what is left into a 10 year. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Kaleb says:
> > 
> >> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub flooring 
> >> just soaked up the moisture.
> > 
> > Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?
> > 
> >> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it for 
> >> whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.
> > 
> > Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one You 
> > could probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds. No 
> > house payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a 
> > 201x E250.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does the warranty you bought cover only appliances, appliances plus
appliance leakage damage, or everything?

Who connects a washer, turns on the water, and ignores the fact that it's
dripping for a matter of years? Answer: a renter who rents because they
can't handle home ownership responsibilities.

Anyway, back to the A/C while you're under there. The bigger pipe
definitely needs to have insulation over it, and if it's also a heat pump,
insulating the smaller pipe isn't a bad idea.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Get rid of the rental and use all the money you keep plowing into the rental 
to pay down your current mortgage. The amount you're spending can't possibly be 
offset by the rent you're getting or the equity you're building...
-Curt

On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 2:56:36 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion from around a 
window.

As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I figured out what 
the cause was. The renters did not have their washing machine connected 
properly and water was constantly leaking behind it. I suspect it might have 
been leaking down the wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that 
wall where washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from the 
room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction under the house so 
could have rotted floor joists as well. 

Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take equity and pay 
off/pay down our current house then refi what is left into a 10 year. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb says:
> 
>> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub flooring 
>> just soaked up the moisture.
> 
> Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?
> 
>> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it for 
>> whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.
> 
> Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one You could 
> probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds. No house 
> payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The previous issue was from what appeared to me water intrusion from around a 
window.

As I started pulling up more tile the rot just kept going. I figured out what 
the cause was. The renters did not have their washing machine connected 
properly and water was constantly leaking behind it. I suspect it might have 
been leaking down the wall at the washer connection. Entire floor along that 
wall where washer sits is rotted out. Will have to remove all the tile from the 
room and cut it out and replace. I did not go that direction under the house so 
could have rotted floor joists as well. 

Also, plan is to sell the rental in about 3 years and take equity and pay 
off/pay down our current house then refi what is left into a 10 year. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb says:
> 
>> Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub flooring 
>> just soaked up the moisture.
> 
> Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?
> 
>> I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it for 
>> whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.
> 
> Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one You could 
> probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds. No house 
> payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

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Kaleb says:

>Area is very moist and the crap particle board they >used for sub flooring 
>just soaked up the moisture.

Didn't you have water issues from the roof or something a while back?

>I’m sick of messing with this house and about >ready to just dump it for 
>whatever I can get or let  >the bank have it.

Sell it or sell your current house and move back in to this one You could 
probably pay off where ever you want to live with the proceeds. No house 
payments would go a long way to building a retirement or buying a 201x E250.

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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

You have more troubles that a one armed paperhanger. 

Bob R

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s what I did a few years ago in the kitchen when we had a similar 
> issue. I will have to put some cross supports in because the cut out area is 
> joist to joist, but not the ends if that makes sense. I guess I’m just going 
> to replace what I can and call it good. Not a thing I can do about the area 
> under the wall or closet. I assume the whole wall would have to come out. 
> Project is on hold till I figure out the water issue. 
> 
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>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> While you’ve got the floor up just sister the joists where they’re soft and 
>> call it done.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next 
>>> renters that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from dogs. 
>>> Will never allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we just put in 
>>> before they moved in. Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the 
>>> utility room. Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 
>>> 2 feet by 1.5 feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out. This 
>>> is strange because there are no water sources in the area. After cutting 
>>> out the bad section got under the house to discover more rot. It extends 
>>> further toward and under an adjoining wall and closet. The copper lines 
>>> from from outside the house to the ac unit then right up thru the 
>>> floor/wall in this area to the attic. No insulation is on the pipes. Area 
>>> is very moist and the crap particle board they used for sub flooring just 
>>> soaked up the moisture. Shouldn’t these be insulated all the way to the 
>>> unit? I’m thinking maybe the pipe sweating over the years has rotten this 
>>> out. The floor joists can probably still be used but do have some soft 
>>> spots starting at the bottoms. I’m going to have to figure out why this 
>>> area is getting wet then decide if I can even fix it. About all I could do 
>>> is replace the area of the floor that gets traffic but it would still be 
>>> rotted out under that wall and into the closet. Fortunately the closed has 
>>> a floor built up off the main floor as it is a pantry. The idiots who built 
>>> the house have the ac drain pipe running down this walk in question and 
>>> drains into a sewer pipe under the closet area. Drain pipe comes out of the 
>>> wall across the subfloor of the closet then down to the sewer pipe. That is 
>>> why the 2nd floor is built up from the main sub floor to allow the pipe to 
>>> pass. Why they didn’t just run it straight down to the crawl space then 
>>> outside I have no clue. I’m sick of messing with this house and about ready 
>>> to just dump it for whatever I can get or let the bank have it. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Continued cooling system testing

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 07:40:27 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Good work!

Thank you!


> Yeah you need to make a checklist and work through it on the back end
> of a job

Having been in the USAF, where every job had a step-by-step procedure, a
checklist would be great -- but I could spend more time making the
checklist than doing the job!

Actually, I do have a checklist, but tightening the hose clamp was not on
it. One of the main points was, "CHECK ALL FLUIDS!"


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Re: [MBZ] Ask is a Bit Much, But....

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe not in this case.  Still not a nimble and only 2 days to go.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Mercedes-Benz-300E/224104903862?hash=item342db174b6:g:nwUAAOSw-uVfKKDt=mtr


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 12:13 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Yes ebay does excel at finding that one dude who just has to have the green
> 30 year old 4 door sedan.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 7:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 2+ days left and it's eBay.
> >
> > You'll start seeing some action about 10 min before the auction closes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> > > So far zero bids.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:47 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:08:41 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I would. And I think the combination of seafoam green exterior and
> tan
> > >> > interior is nice.
> > >>
> > >> I also like the color.
> > >>
> > >> I would like the tan color to be a little darker, though.
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That’s what I did a few years ago in the kitchen when we had a similar issue. I 
will have to put some cross supports in because the cut out area is joist to 
joist, but not the ends if that makes sense. I guess I’m just going to replace 
what I can and call it good. Not a thing I can do about the area under the wall 
or closet. I assume the whole wall would have to come out. Project is on hold 
till I figure out the water issue. 

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> While you’ve got the floor up just sister the joists where they’re soft and 
> call it done.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next 
>> renters that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from dogs. 
>> Will never allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we just put in 
>> before they moved in. Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the 
>> utility room. Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 
>> 2 feet by 1.5 feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out. This 
>> is strange because there are no water sources in the area. After cutting out 
>> the bad section got under the house to discover more rot. It extends further 
>> toward and under an adjoining wall and closet. The copper lines from from 
>> outside the house to the ac unit then right up thru the floor/wall in this 
>> area to the attic. No insulation is on the pipes. Area is very moist and the 
>> crap particle board they used for sub flooring just soaked up the moisture. 
>> Shouldn’t these be insulated all the way to the unit? I’m thinking maybe the 
>> pipe sweating over the years has rotten this out. The floor joists can 
>> probably still be used but do have some soft spots starting at the bottoms. 
>> I’m going to have to figure out why this area is getting wet then decide if 
>> I can even fix it. About all I could do is replace the area of the floor 
>> that gets traffic but it would still be rotted out under that wall and into 
>> the closet. Fortunately the closed has a floor built up off the main floor 
>> as it is a pantry. The idiots who built the house have the ac drain pipe 
>> running down this walk in question and drains into a sewer pipe under the 
>> closet area. Drain pipe comes out of the wall across the subfloor of the 
>> closet then down to the sewer pipe. That is why the 2nd floor is built up 
>> from the main sub floor to allow the pipe to pass. Why they didn’t just run 
>> it straight down to the crawl space then outside I have no clue. I’m sick of 
>> messing with this house and about ready to just dump it for whatever I can 
>> get or let the bank have it. 
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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 11:55:57 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next
> renters that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from
> dogs. Will never allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we
> just put in before they moved in.

Being a responsible pet owner, I would have problems with this.
How about a large pet damage deposit in addition to the ordinary deposit?


> Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the utility room.
> Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 2 feet by
> 1.5 feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out.

Oh, oh.


> The copper lines from from outside the house to the ac unit then right
> up thru the floor/wall in this area to the attic. No insulation is on
> the pipes. Area is very moist and the crap particle board they used for
> sub flooring just soaked up the moisture. Shouldn’t these be insulated
> all the way to the unit?

Yes, they should.


> I’m thinking maybe the pipe sweating over the years has rotten this
> out.

I agree with that conclusion.


> The floor joists can probably still be used but do have some soft spots
> starting at the bottoms. I’m going to have to figure out why this area
> is getting wet then decide if I can even fix it. About all I could do
> is replace the area of the floor that gets traffic but it would still
> be rotted out under that wall and into the closet. Fortunately the
> closed has a floor built up off the main floor as it is a pantry.

In addition to replacing the area of the floor, you could add new
cripples to the existing joists.


> The idiots who built the house have the ac drain pipe running down this
> walk in question and drains into a sewer pipe under the closet area.
> Drain pipe comes out of the wall across the subfloor of the closet then
> down to the sewer pipe. That is why the 2nd floor is built up from the
> main sub floor to allow the pipe to pass. Why they didn’t just run it
> straight down to the crawl space then outside I have no clue.

They indeed should have daylighted the drain line.


> I’m sick of messing with this house and about ready to just dump it for
> whatever I can get or let the bank have it. 

I can understand wanting to dump it! Letting the bank have it is a bad
idea. Fix it up and sell it seems the best way out.


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Re: [MBZ] The rental

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While you’ve got the floor up just sister the joists where they’re soft and 
call it done.

-D

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next 
> renters that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from dogs. 
> Will never allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we just put in 
> before they moved in. Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the 
> utility room. Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 2 
> feet by 1.5 feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out. This is 
> strange because there are no water sources in the area. After cutting out the 
> bad section got under the house to discover more rot. It extends further 
> toward and under an adjoining wall and closet. The copper lines from from 
> outside the house to the ac unit then right up thru the floor/wall in this 
> area to the attic. No insulation is on the pipes. Area is very moist and the 
> crap particle board they used for sub flooring just soaked up the moisture. 
> Shouldn’t these be insulated all the way to the unit? I’m thinking maybe the 
> pipe sweating over the years has rotten this out. The floor joists can 
> probably still be used but do have some soft spots starting at the bottoms. 
> I’m going to have to figure out why this area is getting wet then decide if I 
> can even fix it. About all I could do is replace the area of the floor that 
> gets traffic but it would still be rotted out under that wall and into the 
> closet. Fortunately the closed has a floor built up off the main floor as it 
> is a pantry. The idiots who built the house have the ac drain pipe running 
> down this walk in question and drains into a sewer pipe under the closet 
> area. Drain pipe comes out of the wall across the subfloor of the closet then 
> down to the sewer pipe. That is why the 2nd floor is built up from the main 
> sub floor to allow the pipe to pass. Why they didn’t just run it straight 
> down to the crawl space then outside I have no clue. I’m sick of messing with 
> this house and about ready to just dump it for whatever I can get or let the 
> bank have it. 
> 
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[MBZ] The rental

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So after the renters moved out I’m getting the house ready for the next renters 
that are supposed to move in on the 15th. Lots of damage from dogs. Will never 
allow pets again. They destroyed the new carpet we just put in before they 
moved in. Of bigger concern was an area of cracked tile in the utility room. 
Discovered floor was soft. Pulled it out and an area of about 2 feet by 1.5 
feet or the area between to floor joists was rotted out. This is strange 
because there are no water sources in the area. After cutting out the bad 
section got under the house to discover more rot. It extends further toward and 
under an adjoining wall and closet. The copper lines from from outside the 
house to the ac unit then right up thru the floor/wall in this area to the 
attic. No insulation is on the pipes. Area is very moist and the crap particle 
board they used for sub flooring just soaked up the moisture. Shouldn’t these 
be insulated all the way to the unit? I’m thinking maybe the pipe sweating over 
the years has rotten this out. The floor joists can probably still be used but 
do have some soft spots starting at the bottoms. I’m going to have to figure 
out why this area is getting wet then decide if I can even fix it. About all I 
could do is replace the area of the floor that gets traffic but it would still 
be rotted out under that wall and into the closet. Fortunately the closed has a 
floor built up off the main floor as it is a pantry. The idiots who built the 
house have the ac drain pipe running down this walk in question and drains into 
a sewer pipe under the closet area. Drain pipe comes out of the wall across the 
subfloor of the closet then down to the sewer pipe. That is why the 2nd floor 
is built up from the main sub floor to allow the pipe to pass. Why they didn’t 
just run it straight down to the crawl space then outside I have no clue. I’m 
sick of messing with this house and about ready to just dump it for whatever I 
can get or let the bank have it. 

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Re: [MBZ] Continued cooling system testing

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bravo!  Usually something simple, glad it was easy to find once you had the 
proper tool.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 7, 2020 11:42:17 PM Craig via Mercedes :

> I rented a cooling system pressure tester from the local (well, in
> Edgewood, 15 miles away) O'Reilly Auto Parts. (picture 1)
> 
> I tried using it as manufactured, but got tired really quickly trying to
> pump air into the system with the little supplied pump.
> 
> I then took it apart and used the part which connects to the coolant
> reservoir cap along with some parts I had around here. (picture 2)
> 
> I set the supplied air pressure to 10 psi and then hooked it up to the
> coolant reservoir. (picture 3)
> 
> I was able to hear air flowing and was able to trace the source of the
> major leak. I fixed that and will pressurize the system again tomorrow
> and attempt to seal the air supply so I can see if it holds pressure for
> a length of time.
> 
> If it does, I will then hook up my vacuum-assisted cooling system
> refiller, see how it does at holding a vacuum, and then, if successful,
> fill the car's cooling system with a 50% mixture of G-05.
> 
> Craig
> 
> P.S. If you want to know what the major leak was, it was the lower
> radiator hose clamp I thought I had tightened when I put everything
> related to the serpentine belt back together. It does not help to
> take so long between starting a repair and finishing it!
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Re: [MBZ] Continued cooling system testing

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good work!  Yeah you need to make a checklist and work through it on the back 
end of a job

--FT
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> On Aug 7, 2020, at 11:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
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