Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Oh hey, I forgot to tell the other big camp story from last week. We got a 
refrigerator!
Onna these in white: 
https://uniqueappliances.com/product/8-cu-ft-propane-fridge/?c=72e1ba2726d6
8 cu ft is pretty small but at $1500 delivered propane fridges are pretty 
spendy. Ours weighs as much as the much larger unit we have at home. The tubing 
on the back is pretty serious.
As usual there was nearly a whole day farting around getting it hooked up 
including 2 trips to the hardware store for more fittings. Neither of us wanted 
to buy another 50' of 3/8" copper pipe (at probably $1.50 a foot) for the 15 
foot run so we ended up putting a couple pieces we already had together. Also 
as usual it took me about 5 bad flares to get the hang of the flare tool 
again.One trick we used on the flares was to anneal the pipe before making a 
flare. Copper work hardens and last time I made flares I was having trouble 
with it cracking and leaking, softening it before working with it worked way 
better.
-Curt

On Monday, October 19, 2020, 11:52:14 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Oh geez, never buy Samsung appliances, especially refrigerators. Ours is 
great, but the ice maker does not work, period.  It continually jambs 
and freezes up and I noticed the ice makers on the new models are 
exactly like ours.  I am tempted to dump it or move it as a spare fridge 
to the garage and buy something else.

On 10/19/2020 9:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I have a Samsung fridge, the ice makers have minds of their own
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered 
>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh geez, never buy Samsung appliances, especially refrigerators. Ours is 
great, but the ice maker does not work, period.  It continually jambs 
and freezes up and I noticed the ice makers on the new models are 
exactly like ours.  I am tempted to dump it or move it as a spare fridge 
to the garage and buy something else.


On 10/19/2020 9:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I have a Samsung fridge, the ice makers have minds of their own

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered than 
the LG, but only time will tell.

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Re: [MBZ] Magnitude 7.5 earthquake near Sand Point, Alaska

[Clay via Mercedes]

I did not.   No alerts in town, but I think it was more scary and tidal waves 
for the tiny islands or the coastal rainforests.

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000c9hg/executive
> 
> Clay, did you feel it?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Clay via Mercedes]

The things are not that smart.  That feature would be good.  I have to visit a 
web site and use QR coding to access programming to input through the phone 
into the appliance to activate the special sock wash and eat cycle, or sanitize 
and shred bedsheets.


clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 6:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it will tell you what part is broken you can just order and install it
> yourself, saving some cash potentially on repair people.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access
>> the more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I
>> prefer analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who
>> probably does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
>> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
>> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after
>> two
 major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
 replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
 junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
 
 OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
 
 On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
> 
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better
>> engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
> 
> Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Clay via Mercedes]

The new opener in GWN has that option.  I could not make my phone work with it. 
 The rest of the household figured it out. I do not see a need to use my phone 
to have some hacker track me.  The former keypad opener was not compatible with 
the new machine.  A replacement arrived today that wants coding and pairing to 
the wifi network.



clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It 
> has Wifi. I  valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to 
> open and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on 
> earth. I lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my grown 
> children. 
> Please don’t tell them. This has been fun. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my 
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the 
>> more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer 
>> analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably 
>> does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
 major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
 replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
 junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
 
 OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
 
 On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
> 
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
> 
> Bob Massmann
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I have a Samsung fridge, the ice makers have minds of their own

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered 
> than the LG, but only time will tell.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Sharing with the club members (too much?) (with Benz content)

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Great ride! I used to ride a tandem bike on long distance road rides years ago, 
and after one of those, you REALLY have an idea of how good/bad your seat is! 
Distance riding is very enjoyable if you have a good seat.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, still under 1500 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, still in the shop

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great story of a GOOD ride
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Fri Sat Sun I did a bike ride "Bicycle Across South Carolina"
>> 
>> 48 miles the first day (Friday) on a lot of dirt fire/logging "roads"
>> and other back dirt/gravel roads, not a lot of pavement. It had rained
>> the night before so some of these "roads" were pretty soft and wet with
>> mud and very soft beach-type sand.  It was a struggle.  Not much actual
>> road so few vehicles the whole ride.
>> 
>> Saturday was 54 miles on mostly dirt/gravel, some pavement, and 10 miles
>> on the Santee dike (dirt/gravel service road on top), which contains
>> Lake Santee that was built back in the 30s? to provide cooling water for
>> a huge power plant.  I am told that the power company maintains 40some
>> miles of these dikes/dams, which is the largest amount anywhere in the
>> world.  They reinforced a lot of it in the 80s to withstand earthquakes
>> but there was a large stretch that would have cost $500mil back then so
>> they started buying up land downstream of a potential break to clear
>> people out of the way.  Saw a lot of farmland and some interesting
>> sights back in the country off the beaten path.  I had no idea all this
>> stuff existed, I knew it was rural up there but it is REALLY rural!  Not
>> a lot of commerce other than farming.  Saw very few vehicles so it was a
>> comfortable ride.
>> 
>> Yesterday was the last day, 50 miles mostly through the Francis Marion
>> on dirt/gravel roads which were very well maintained so fairly easy
>> riding but BO.RING!  Did 1 mile on the Palmetto Hiking Trail which
>> necessitated walking the bike along most of it except for a coupla
>> hundred yards that was ride-able, sorta.  A lot of that area was
>> blackwater cypress swamp which is very interesting, the rest is managed
>> pine forest, mostly loblolly pine to feed lumber and paper mills, but
>> some of it is being replanted in the original longleaf pine.
>> Interestingly enough I heard some birds but saw absolutely no wildlife
>> in  ~40miles through the forest.  I guess there are deer and bear back
>> in there but saw no sign of anything.  Kinda weird.  Hardly any vehicles
>> once we got into the forest, so again a quite comfortable ride without
>> having to worry about getting run over.
>> 
>> After 149miles I had a blowout 3mi from the finish, managed to get a new
>> tube in and rode on in.  Lunch and cobeer (Fat Tire was a sponsor!)
>> waiting so that was welcome.  The ride was fully supported, we camped in
>> 2 state parks and a city park, they had portapots and food and beer and
>> restrooms/showers in the parks so that was good, hauled our impedimenta
>> from one site to the next. Snack stops on the routes, SAG vehicles
>> following along to deal with any problems.  We bused from the finish
>> site to the start for the first night's stayover, then rode back from
>> there.
>> 
>> My butt hurts!  Gotta get a suspension seat post to take out some of the
>> pounding.  I rode my Trek 920 Touring bike, which is pretty comfortable
>> riding (aside from the lack of suspension other than my butt), 29" tires
>> so rolls pretty well even on rough terrain, has wider off-road tires so
>> handles that aspect well.  Kind of an all-around bike.  Several riders
>> commented on it and were thinking about getting one though they seem to
>> be discontinued, maybe.
>> 
>> Interestingly enough there are NO trail bikes available most anywhere
>> for the last several weeks, people have been buying them out during the
>> covids.  I rode a bit with one woman who said she got the last mtb in
>> all of Charleston area about 3 weeks ago, it was not a particularly good
>> bike but it was working OK.  After the first night of rain (setting up
>> camp in the dark and rain! the buses were 2.5hr late picking us up...)
>> we had great weather, high 60s low 70s, very low humidity, perfect
>> riding weather.
>> 
>> And did I mention I turned 66 (wtf? how does that happen???) on Friday,
>> so this was a bit of birfday challenge to see if I could still grind out
>> the miles, I guess I am not ready for the discard pile yet!  Legs were a
>> bit stiff this morning but I soon worked that out, don't feel too bad
>> although I am hungry!  Not like I need to replace any lost, uh, energy
>> stores though...
>> 
>> Oh, and I loaded my bike and impedimenta in the $700ML500 and carried it
>> all up to the start site 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Last washer I bought was from Lowes. They didn't have the model I wanted
in stock, but had it on their website, so I ordered it online and had it
delivered to the local Lowes store, where I picked it up. Took a few
extra days but worked out fine.

All our local appliance stores but one are gone, and they only carry
Miele. Lowes, Menards, and Best Buy killed the others off.

Allan

Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home
> Depot, I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story,
> can't get appliances until January. They'd like to move in by
> November...  Then they tried a local appliance place, they had
> everything in stock, delivered 2 days later, saved something like
> $2500 over the big box store price.  -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Sharing with the club members (too much?) (with Benz content)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Great story of a GOOD ride

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fri Sat Sun I did a bike ride "Bicycle Across South Carolina"
>
> 48 miles the first day (Friday) on a lot of dirt fire/logging "roads"
> and other back dirt/gravel roads, not a lot of pavement. It had rained
> the night before so some of these "roads" were pretty soft and wet with
> mud and very soft beach-type sand.  It was a struggle.  Not much actual
> road so few vehicles the whole ride.
>
> Saturday was 54 miles on mostly dirt/gravel, some pavement, and 10 miles
> on the Santee dike (dirt/gravel service road on top), which contains
> Lake Santee that was built back in the 30s? to provide cooling water for
> a huge power plant.  I am told that the power company maintains 40some
> miles of these dikes/dams, which is the largest amount anywhere in the
> world.  They reinforced a lot of it in the 80s to withstand earthquakes
> but there was a large stretch that would have cost $500mil back then so
> they started buying up land downstream of a potential break to clear
> people out of the way.  Saw a lot of farmland and some interesting
> sights back in the country off the beaten path.  I had no idea all this
> stuff existed, I knew it was rural up there but it is REALLY rural!  Not
> a lot of commerce other than farming.  Saw very few vehicles so it was a
> comfortable ride.
>
> Yesterday was the last day, 50 miles mostly through the Francis Marion
> on dirt/gravel roads which were very well maintained so fairly easy
> riding but BO.RING!  Did 1 mile on the Palmetto Hiking Trail which
> necessitated walking the bike along most of it except for a coupla
> hundred yards that was ride-able, sorta.  A lot of that area was
> blackwater cypress swamp which is very interesting, the rest is managed
> pine forest, mostly loblolly pine to feed lumber and paper mills, but
> some of it is being replanted in the original longleaf pine.
> Interestingly enough I heard some birds but saw absolutely no wildlife
> in  ~40miles through the forest.  I guess there are deer and bear back
> in there but saw no sign of anything.  Kinda weird.  Hardly any vehicles
> once we got into the forest, so again a quite comfortable ride without
> having to worry about getting run over.
>
> After 149miles I had a blowout 3mi from the finish, managed to get a new
> tube in and rode on in.  Lunch and cobeer (Fat Tire was a sponsor!)
> waiting so that was welcome.  The ride was fully supported, we camped in
> 2 state parks and a city park, they had portapots and food and beer and
> restrooms/showers in the parks so that was good, hauled our impedimenta
> from one site to the next. Snack stops on the routes, SAG vehicles
> following along to deal with any problems.  We bused from the finish
> site to the start for the first night's stayover, then rode back from
> there.
>
> My butt hurts!  Gotta get a suspension seat post to take out some of the
> pounding.  I rode my Trek 920 Touring bike, which is pretty comfortable
> riding (aside from the lack of suspension other than my butt), 29" tires
> so rolls pretty well even on rough terrain, has wider off-road tires so
> handles that aspect well.  Kind of an all-around bike.  Several riders
> commented on it and were thinking about getting one though they seem to
> be discontinued, maybe.
>
> Interestingly enough there are NO trail bikes available most anywhere
> for the last several weeks, people have been buying them out during the
> covids.  I rode a bit with one woman who said she got the last mtb in
> all of Charleston area about 3 weeks ago, it was not a particularly good
> bike but it was working OK.  After the first night of rain (setting up
> camp in the dark and rain! the buses were 2.5hr late picking us up...)
> we had great weather, high 60s low 70s, very low humidity, perfect
> riding weather.
>
> And did I mention I turned 66 (wtf? how does that happen???) on Friday,
> so this was a bit of birfday challenge to see if I could still grind out
> the miles, I guess I am not ready for the discard pile yet!  Legs were a
> bit stiff this morning but I soon worked that out, don't feel too bad
> although I am hungry!  Not like I need to replace any lost, uh, energy
> stores though...
>
> Oh, and I loaded my bike and impedimenta in the $700ML500 and carried it
> all up to the start site about an hour away, up past Max's
> neighborhood.  Longest ride in it, everything was fine, so getting
> confidence in it.  Gotta get a hitch setup for my bike rack, taking it
> apart to fit in the hatch was a bit of a pain but it slid in there well
> along with my other gear.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
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> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Oh sure, its maybe an hour north of us. Maybe less, 45 minutes...
-Curt

On Monday, October 19, 2020, 2:33:24 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt is your vast ME estate located anywhere near Square Lake?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And the roads in the interior. If you want to call them roads, that is.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > I used to work for Intl. Paper back in the mid 70s, who at that time
> owned most of the North woods.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At
> least not reliably.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > wrote:
> > >
> > > We have internets in Maine.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No Internets, no city dwellers.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> My thoughts exactly!
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >  How can you even consider selling that barn?
> > 
> >  RB
> > 
> > > On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > > As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the
> farm next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine
> it as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its
> really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the
> 1890s or early 1900s.
> > > The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but
> by removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a
> couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> > > There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60
> or there about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period
> starting maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with
> minimal maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built
> probably in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms
> share a stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that
> stops perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms,
> just stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want
> to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> > > The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres,
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a
> new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the
> river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> > > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Get on I95 and drive north until it stops in Houlton. The last Starbucks is in 
Bangor which is 2 hours south of Houlton.Once 95 stops get on RT 1 and drive 
north for another hour. Thats Caribou.
Last I knew there was one commercial flight a week into Presque Isle, it flew 
to Newark...
-Curt

On Monday, October 19, 2020, 7:52:09 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote:  
 
 A house with a new timber frame barn on 3 acres for 25K? That doesn’t make any 
sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
>    On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:  
> 
> Where exactly is this?
> 
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
> 1900s.
> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My phone didn't have very good data service at camp. Dad has a wifi hotspot 
with Cellular One that works well.
Just this week I've moved from Republic Wireless to Red Pocket and thus from 
T-Mobile towers to Verizon. I'm going back in a month, we'll see how it does 
now. So far around home it seems to work a little better.
-Curt

On Monday, October 19, 2020, 12:41:52 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At least 
not reliably.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> We have internets in Maine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No Internets, no city dwellers.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My thoughts exactly!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 How can you even consider selling that barn?
 
 RB
 
> On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm 
> next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it 
> as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its 
> really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 
> 1890s or early 1900s.
> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a 
> couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably 
> in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with 
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd 
> want to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, 
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put 
> a new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near 
> the river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> -Curt
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 You want it? LOL
Its 3/4 mile from the camp and there is another 16x24' garage being build right 
next to the camp...
It'd be neat to build the barn into a house.
-Curt

On Monday, October 19, 2020, 11:48:48 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 How can you even consider selling that barn?

RB

On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
> 1900s.
> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I had a similar issue with a replacement tail light lens for Angie's car. It 
was really poorly packed in just a light cardboard box. Think cereal box and 
you wouldn't be far off. 

They got me a good one on the second try and compared to all the other places 
the price was very good but it was kind of frustrating.
-Curt

On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 2:21:14 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Last time I needed a drain pump for an LG I ordered it on Amazon to save
a few bucks. It arrived broken. They did exchange it, but that's
annoying and left me without a washer for longer than necessary. The
eventual replacement did work and lasted until the pot-metal drum
support broke (see the start of this thread). At that point I replaced
the washer

RepairClinic.com will probably cost a little more but I've never
received a bad part from them.

Allan


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes  writes:

> Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years
> max. Of course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that
> time. I wonder if it has a load counter on it.
>
> LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer
> until next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at
> Home Depot.  I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This one was $1400 IIRC. The home warranty paid for $1200 of it. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Prices on good quality dishwashers have gone up 20 percent in the past 6 
> months.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:14 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Our new top of the line Bosch dishwasher we ordered 2 months ago is supposed 
>> to be delivered this week. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I 
>> > didn’t see a refrigerator in one aisle for less than $2k. That’s nuts.
>> > 
>> > -D
>> > 
>> >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home 
>> >> Depot, I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't 
>> >> get appliances until January. They'd like to move in by November...
>> >> 
>> >> Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock, 
>> >> delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store 
>> >> price.
>> >> 
>> >> -Curt
>> >> 
>> >> On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new 
>> >> appliances being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the 
>> >> pandemic. Our new house had no appliances even though they were on the 
>> >> description, so we negotiated $3k off the price. The builder said they 
>> >> can’t get stuff fast enough and they were having to credit people back at 
>> >> closings because they couldn’t get the appliances for the homes fast 
>> >> enough.
>> >> 
>> >> I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked through 
>> >> the appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.
>> >> 
>> >> Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if 
>> >> there’s a particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll 
>> >> of the dice when or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent 
>> >> selection of stuff across all price ranges and said that if they’ve got 
>> >> it in the store or warehouse you can have it in a day or two.
>> >> 
>> >> So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be 
>> >> flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about 
>> >> Bosch dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all 
>> >> models.
>> >> 
>> >> -D
>> >> 
>>  On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
>> >>> course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
>> >>> wonder if it has a load counter on it.
>> >>> 
>> >>> LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
>> >>> next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home 
>> >>> Depot.
>> >>> I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>> >>> 
>>  I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
>>  that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid 
>>  into
>>  plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only 
>>  ruin
>>  that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
>>  room in the house ;)
>>  Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after 
>>  7
>>  or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
>>  -Curt
>>  
>>    On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>  
>>  Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
>>  storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
>>  solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
>>  
>>  -D
>>  
>> > On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond > > > wrote:
>> > 
>> > I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
>>  cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a 
>>  good
>>  de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active 
>>  ingredient
>>  in your lemonade is citric acid.
>> > 
>> > -Curt
>> > 
>> > On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Karl,
>> > 
>> > I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yup always buy local. Boycott big boxes.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:09 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home
> Depot, I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't
> get appliances until January. They'd like to move in by November...
> Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock,
> delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store
> price.
> -Curt
>
> On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new
> appliances being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic.
> Our new house had no appliances even though they were on the description,
> so we negotiated $3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff
> fast enough and they were having to credit people back at closings because
> they couldn’t get the appliances for the homes fast enough.
>
> I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked through
> the appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.
>
> Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if
> there’s a particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll of
> the dice when or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent
> selection of stuff across all price ranges and said that if they’ve got it
> in the store or warehouse you can have it in a day or two.
>
> So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be
> flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about Bosch
> dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all models.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
> > course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
> > wonder if it has a load counter on it.
> >
> > LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
> > next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home
> Depot.
> > I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
> >> that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid
> into
> >> plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only
> ruin
> >> that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
> >> room in the house ;)
> >> Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after
> 7
> >> or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
> >> storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
> >> solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
> >> cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a
> good
> >> de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active
> ingredient
> >> in your lemonade is citric acid.
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Karl,
> >>>
> >>> I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart
> and
> >> use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a
> “tub
> >> clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to
> that. A
> >> couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
> >>>
> >>> I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>  How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
> 
>  On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com >
>  wrote:
> 
> > I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles
> >> on the
> > dishwasher and washing machine.
> >
> > -D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Prices on good quality dishwashers have gone up 20 percent in the past 6
months.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Our new top of the line Bosch dishwasher we ordered 2 months ago is
> supposed to be delivered this week.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I
> didn’t see a refrigerator in one aisle for less than $2k. That’s nuts.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >>
> >> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home
> Depot, I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't
> get appliances until January. They'd like to move in by November...
> >>
> >> Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock,
> delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store
> price.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new
> appliances being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic.
> Our new house had no appliances even though they were on the description,
> so we negotiated $3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff
> fast enough and they were having to credit people back at closings because
> they couldn’t get the appliances for the homes fast enough.
> >>
> >> I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked
> through the appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.
> >>
> >> Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if
> there’s a particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll of
> the dice when or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent
> selection of stuff across all price ranges and said that if they’ve got it
> in the store or warehouse you can have it in a day or two.
> >>
> >> So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be
> flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about Bosch
> dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all models.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>  On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max.
> Of
> >>> course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
> >>> wonder if it has a load counter on it.
> >>>
> >>> LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer
> until
> >>> next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home
> Depot.
> >>> I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
>  I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic
> thing
>  that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the
> acid into
>  plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would
> only ruin
>  that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst
> humidity
>  room in the house ;)
>  Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but
> after 7
>  or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
>  -Curt
> 
>    On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>  Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
>  storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
>  solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond  > wrote:
> >
> > I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago
> for
>  cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a
> good
>  de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active
> ingredient
>  in your lemonade is citric acid.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart
> and
>  use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has
> a “tub
>  clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to
> that. A
>  couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
> >
> > I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
> >
> > -D
> 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Our new top of the line Bosch dishwasher we ordered 2 months ago is supposed to 
be delivered this week. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I didn’t 
> see a refrigerator in one aisle for less than $2k. That’s nuts.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home Depot, 
>> I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't get 
>> appliances until January. They'd like to move in by November...
>> 
>> Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock, 
>> delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store 
>> price.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new appliances 
>> being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic. Our new 
>> house had no appliances even though they were on the description, so we 
>> negotiated $3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff fast 
>> enough and they were having to credit people back at closings because they 
>> couldn’t get the appliances for the homes fast enough.
>> 
>> I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked through 
>> the appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.
>> 
>> Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if there’s 
>> a particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll of the dice 
>> when or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent selection of stuff 
>> across all price ranges and said that if they’ve got it in the store or 
>> warehouse you can have it in a day or two.
>> 
>> So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be 
>> flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about Bosch 
>> dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all models.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
>>> course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
>>> wonder if it has a load counter on it.
>>> 
>>> LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
>>> next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home Depot.
>>> I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
 I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
 that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid into
 plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only ruin
 that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
 room in the house ;)
 Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after 7
 or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
 -Curt
 
   On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
 storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
 solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
 
 -D
 
> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond  > wrote:
> 
> I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
 cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a good
 de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active ingredient
 in your lemonade is citric acid.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> Karl,
> 
> I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart and
 use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a “tub
 clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to that. A
 couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
> 
> I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com  
 >> wrote:
>> 
>> How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home Depot, I 
forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't get appliances 
until January. They'd like to move in by November...
Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock, 
delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store price.
-Curt

On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new appliances 
being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic. Our new house 
had no appliances even though they were on the description, so we negotiated 
$3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff fast enough and they 
were having to credit people back at closings because they couldn’t get the 
appliances for the homes fast enough.

I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked through the 
appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.

Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if there’s a 
particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll of the dice when 
or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent selection of stuff across 
all price ranges and said that if they’ve got it in the store or warehouse you 
can have it in a day or two.

So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be 
flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about Bosch 
dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all models.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
> course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
> wonder if it has a load counter on it.
> 
> LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
> next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home Depot.
> I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
> 
> On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
>> that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid into
>> plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only ruin
>> that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
>> room in the house ;)
>> Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after 7
>> or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>    On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
>> storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
>> solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
>> cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a good
>> de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active ingredient
>> in your lemonade is citric acid.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Karl,
>>> 
>>> I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart and
>> use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a “tub
>> clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to that. A
>> couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
>>> 
>>> I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
 
 On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com >
 wrote:
 
> I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles
>> on the
> dishwasher and washing machine.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I didn’t see 
a refrigerator in one aisle for less than $2k. That’s nuts.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home Depot, 
> I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't get 
> appliances until January. They'd like to move in by November...
> 
> Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock, 
> delivered 2 days later, saved something like $2500 over the big box store 
> price.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, October 16, 2020, 9:33:41 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> For what it’s worth, I  was wondering about the chatter about new appliances 
> being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic. Our new 
> house had no appliances even though they were on the description, so we 
> negotiated $3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff fast 
> enough and they were having to credit people back at closings because they 
> couldn’t get the appliances for the homes fast enough.
> 
> I was at Lowe’s the other day and it was pretty slow, so I walked through the 
> appliance department and spoke to one of the sales people.
> 
> Long story short, they can get appliances. It’s hit or miss, and if there’s a 
> particular model you want and they don’t have it, it’s a roll of the dice 
> when or if it will ever show up. They had a pretty decent selection of stuff 
> across all price ranges and said that if they’ve got it in the store or 
> warehouse you can have it in a day or two.
> 
> So I guess as long as you’re not stuck on a particular model and can be 
> flexible, there are appliances to be had. I specifically asked about Bosch 
> dishwashers, and she said they had plenty of them but not all models.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
> > course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
> > wonder if it has a load counter on it.
> > 
> > LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
> > next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home Depot.
> > I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.
> > 
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
> >> that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid into
> >> plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only ruin
> >> that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
> >> room in the house ;)
> >> Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after 7
> >> or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
> >> -Curt
> >> 
> >>On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
> >> storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
> >> solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
> >> cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a good
> >> de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active ingredient
> >> in your lemonade is citric acid.
> >>> 
> >>> -Curt
> >>> 
> >>> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Karl,
> >>> 
> >>> I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart and
> >> use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a “tub
> >> clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to that. A
> >> couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
> >>> 
> >>> I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
> >>> 
> >>> -D
> >>> 
>  On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> >> >> wrote:
>  
>  How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
>  
>  On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> >> >>
>  wrote:
>  
> > I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles
> >> on the
> > dishwasher and washing 

Re: [MBZ] OT Sharing with the club members (too much?) (with Benz content)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Haha yeah, I had not thought of that, but yeah, right about that, maybe 
even a bit more, I forget exactly  And what I paid for the E320 wagon...


--FT

On 10/19/20 3:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Awesome work - congrats.  I am guessing that your bike cost 3X the 
cost of your ML.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Fri Sat Sun I did a bike ride "Bicycle Across South Carolina"

48 miles the first day (Friday) on a lot of dirt fire/logging "roads"
and other back dirt/gravel roads, not a lot of pavement. It had
rained
the night before so some of these "roads" were pretty soft and wet
with
mud and very soft beach-type sand.  It was a struggle.  Not much
actual
road so few vehicles the whole ride.

Saturday was 54 miles on mostly dirt/gravel, some pavement, and 10
miles
on the Santee dike (dirt/gravel service road on top), which contains
Lake Santee that was built back in the 30s? to provide cooling
water for
a huge power plant.  I am told that the power company maintains
40some
miles of these dikes/dams, which is the largest amount anywhere in
the
world.  They reinforced a lot of it in the 80s to withstand
earthquakes
but there was a large stretch that would have cost $500mil back
then so
they started buying up land downstream of a potential break to clear
people out of the way.  Saw a lot of farmland and some interesting
sights back in the country off the beaten path.  I had no idea all
this
stuff existed, I knew it was rural up there but it is REALLY
rural!  Not
a lot of commerce other than farming.  Saw very few vehicles so it
was a
comfortable ride.

Yesterday was the last day, 50 miles mostly through the Francis
Marion
on dirt/gravel roads which were very well maintained so fairly easy
riding but BO.RING!  Did 1 mile on the Palmetto Hiking Trail which
necessitated walking the bike along most of it except for a coupla
hundred yards that was ride-able, sorta.  A lot of that area was
blackwater cypress swamp which is very interesting, the rest is
managed
pine forest, mostly loblolly pine to feed lumber and paper mills, but
some of it is being replanted in the original longleaf pine.
Interestingly enough I heard some birds but saw absolutely no
wildlife
in  ~40miles through the forest.  I guess there are deer and bear
back
in there but saw no sign of anything.  Kinda weird.  Hardly any
vehicles
once we got into the forest, so again a quite comfortable ride
without
having to worry about getting run over.

After 149miles I had a blowout 3mi from the finish, managed to get
a new
tube in and rode on in.  Lunch and cobeer (Fat Tire was a sponsor!)
waiting so that was welcome.  The ride was fully supported, we
camped in
2 state parks and a city park, they had portapots and food and
beer and
restrooms/showers in the parks so that was good, hauled our
impedimenta
from one site to the next. Snack stops on the routes, SAG vehicles
following along to deal with any problems.  We bused from the finish
site to the start for the first night's stayover, then rode back
from there.

My butt hurts!  Gotta get a suspension seat post to take out some
of the
pounding.  I rode my Trek 920 Touring bike, which is pretty
comfortable
riding (aside from the lack of suspension other than my butt), 29"
tires
so rolls pretty well even on rough terrain, has wider off-road
tires so
handles that aspect well.  Kind of an all-around bike. Several riders
commented on it and were thinking about getting one though they
seem to
be discontinued, maybe.

Interestingly enough there are NO trail bikes available most anywhere
for the last several weeks, people have been buying them out
during the
covids.  I rode a bit with one woman who said she got the last mtb in
all of Charleston area about 3 weeks ago, it was not a
particularly good
bike but it was working OK.  After the first night of rain
(setting up
camp in the dark and rain! the buses were 2.5hr late picking us
up...)
we had great weather, high 60s low 70s, very low humidity, perfect
riding weather.

And did I mention I turned 66 (wtf? how does that happen???) on
Friday,
so this was a bit of birfday challenge to see if I could still
grind out
the miles, I guess I am not ready for the discard pile yet! Legs
were a
bit stiff this morning but I soon worked that out, don't feel too bad
although I am hungry!  Not like I need to replace any lost, uh,
energy
stores though...

Oh, and I loaded my bike and impedimenta in the $700ML500 and
carried it
all up to the start site about an hour away, up past Max's
neighborhood.  Longest ride 

Re: [MBZ] OT Sharing with the club members (too much?) (with Benz content)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Awesome work - congrats.  I am guessing that your bike cost 3X the cost of
your ML.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fri Sat Sun I did a bike ride "Bicycle Across South Carolina"
>
> 48 miles the first day (Friday) on a lot of dirt fire/logging "roads"
> and other back dirt/gravel roads, not a lot of pavement. It had rained
> the night before so some of these "roads" were pretty soft and wet with
> mud and very soft beach-type sand.  It was a struggle.  Not much actual
> road so few vehicles the whole ride.
>
> Saturday was 54 miles on mostly dirt/gravel, some pavement, and 10 miles
> on the Santee dike (dirt/gravel service road on top), which contains
> Lake Santee that was built back in the 30s? to provide cooling water for
> a huge power plant.  I am told that the power company maintains 40some
> miles of these dikes/dams, which is the largest amount anywhere in the
> world.  They reinforced a lot of it in the 80s to withstand earthquakes
> but there was a large stretch that would have cost $500mil back then so
> they started buying up land downstream of a potential break to clear
> people out of the way.  Saw a lot of farmland and some interesting
> sights back in the country off the beaten path.  I had no idea all this
> stuff existed, I knew it was rural up there but it is REALLY rural!  Not
> a lot of commerce other than farming.  Saw very few vehicles so it was a
> comfortable ride.
>
> Yesterday was the last day, 50 miles mostly through the Francis Marion
> on dirt/gravel roads which were very well maintained so fairly easy
> riding but BO.RING!  Did 1 mile on the Palmetto Hiking Trail which
> necessitated walking the bike along most of it except for a coupla
> hundred yards that was ride-able, sorta.  A lot of that area was
> blackwater cypress swamp which is very interesting, the rest is managed
> pine forest, mostly loblolly pine to feed lumber and paper mills, but
> some of it is being replanted in the original longleaf pine.
> Interestingly enough I heard some birds but saw absolutely no wildlife
> in  ~40miles through the forest.  I guess there are deer and bear back
> in there but saw no sign of anything.  Kinda weird.  Hardly any vehicles
> once we got into the forest, so again a quite comfortable ride without
> having to worry about getting run over.
>
> After 149miles I had a blowout 3mi from the finish, managed to get a new
> tube in and rode on in.  Lunch and cobeer (Fat Tire was a sponsor!)
> waiting so that was welcome.  The ride was fully supported, we camped in
> 2 state parks and a city park, they had portapots and food and beer and
> restrooms/showers in the parks so that was good, hauled our impedimenta
> from one site to the next. Snack stops on the routes, SAG vehicles
> following along to deal with any problems.  We bused from the finish
> site to the start for the first night's stayover, then rode back from
> there.
>
> My butt hurts!  Gotta get a suspension seat post to take out some of the
> pounding.  I rode my Trek 920 Touring bike, which is pretty comfortable
> riding (aside from the lack of suspension other than my butt), 29" tires
> so rolls pretty well even on rough terrain, has wider off-road tires so
> handles that aspect well.  Kind of an all-around bike.  Several riders
> commented on it and were thinking about getting one though they seem to
> be discontinued, maybe.
>
> Interestingly enough there are NO trail bikes available most anywhere
> for the last several weeks, people have been buying them out during the
> covids.  I rode a bit with one woman who said she got the last mtb in
> all of Charleston area about 3 weeks ago, it was not a particularly good
> bike but it was working OK.  After the first night of rain (setting up
> camp in the dark and rain! the buses were 2.5hr late picking us up...)
> we had great weather, high 60s low 70s, very low humidity, perfect
> riding weather.
>
> And did I mention I turned 66 (wtf? how does that happen???) on Friday,
> so this was a bit of birfday challenge to see if I could still grind out
> the miles, I guess I am not ready for the discard pile yet!  Legs were a
> bit stiff this morning but I soon worked that out, don't feel too bad
> although I am hungry!  Not like I need to replace any lost, uh, energy
> stores though...
>
> Oh, and I loaded my bike and impedimenta in the $700ML500 and carried it
> all up to the start site about an hour away, up past Max's
> neighborhood.  Longest ride in it, everything was fine, so getting
> confidence in it.  Gotta get a hitch setup for my bike rack, taking it
> apart to fit in the hatch was a bit of a pain but it slid in there well
> along with my other gear.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
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[MBZ] OT Sharing with the club members (too much?) (with Benz content)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Fri Sat Sun I did a bike ride "Bicycle Across South Carolina"

48 miles the first day (Friday) on a lot of dirt fire/logging "roads" 
and other back dirt/gravel roads, not a lot of pavement. It had rained 
the night before so some of these "roads" were pretty soft and wet with 
mud and very soft beach-type sand.  It was a struggle.  Not much actual 
road so few vehicles the whole ride.


Saturday was 54 miles on mostly dirt/gravel, some pavement, and 10 miles 
on the Santee dike (dirt/gravel service road on top), which contains 
Lake Santee that was built back in the 30s? to provide cooling water for 
a huge power plant.  I am told that the power company maintains 40some 
miles of these dikes/dams, which is the largest amount anywhere in the 
world.  They reinforced a lot of it in the 80s to withstand earthquakes 
but there was a large stretch that would have cost $500mil back then so 
they started buying up land downstream of a potential break to clear 
people out of the way.  Saw a lot of farmland and some interesting 
sights back in the country off the beaten path.  I had no idea all this 
stuff existed, I knew it was rural up there but it is REALLY rural!  Not 
a lot of commerce other than farming.  Saw very few vehicles so it was a 
comfortable ride.


Yesterday was the last day, 50 miles mostly through the Francis Marion 
on dirt/gravel roads which were very well maintained so fairly easy 
riding but BO.RING!  Did 1 mile on the Palmetto Hiking Trail which 
necessitated walking the bike along most of it except for a coupla 
hundred yards that was ride-able, sorta.  A lot of that area was 
blackwater cypress swamp which is very interesting, the rest is managed 
pine forest, mostly loblolly pine to feed lumber and paper mills, but 
some of it is being replanted in the original longleaf pine.  
Interestingly enough I heard some birds but saw absolutely no wildlife 
in  ~40miles through the forest.  I guess there are deer and bear back 
in there but saw no sign of anything.  Kinda weird.  Hardly any vehicles 
once we got into the forest, so again a quite comfortable ride without 
having to worry about getting run over.


After 149miles I had a blowout 3mi from the finish, managed to get a new 
tube in and rode on in.  Lunch and cobeer (Fat Tire was a sponsor!) 
waiting so that was welcome.  The ride was fully supported, we camped in 
2 state parks and a city park, they had portapots and food and beer and 
restrooms/showers in the parks so that was good, hauled our impedimenta 
from one site to the next. Snack stops on the routes, SAG vehicles 
following along to deal with any problems.  We bused from the finish 
site to the start for the first night's stayover, then rode back from there.


My butt hurts!  Gotta get a suspension seat post to take out some of the 
pounding.  I rode my Trek 920 Touring bike, which is pretty comfortable 
riding (aside from the lack of suspension other than my butt), 29" tires 
so rolls pretty well even on rough terrain, has wider off-road tires so 
handles that aspect well.  Kind of an all-around bike.  Several riders 
commented on it and were thinking about getting one though they seem to 
be discontinued, maybe.


Interestingly enough there are NO trail bikes available most anywhere 
for the last several weeks, people have been buying them out during the 
covids.  I rode a bit with one woman who said she got the last mtb in 
all of Charleston area about 3 weeks ago, it was not a particularly good 
bike but it was working OK.  After the first night of rain (setting up 
camp in the dark and rain! the buses were 2.5hr late picking us up...) 
we had great weather, high 60s low 70s, very low humidity, perfect 
riding weather.


And did I mention I turned 66 (wtf? how does that happen???) on Friday, 
so this was a bit of birfday challenge to see if I could still grind out 
the miles, I guess I am not ready for the discard pile yet!  Legs were a 
bit stiff this morning but I soon worked that out, don't feel too bad 
although I am hungry!  Not like I need to replace any lost, uh, energy 
stores though...


Oh, and I loaded my bike and impedimenta in the $700ML500 and carried it 
all up to the start site about an hour away, up past Max's 
neighborhood.  Longest ride in it, everything was fine, so getting 
confidence in it.  Gotta get a hitch setup for my bike rack, taking it 
apart to fit in the hatch was a bit of a pain but it slid in there well 
along with my other gear.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Curt is your vast ME estate located anywhere near Square Lake?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And the roads in the interior. If you want to call them roads, that is.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > I used to work for Intl. Paper back in the mid 70s, who at that time
> owned most of the North woods.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At
> least not reliably.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > wrote:
> > >
> > > We have internets in Maine.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No Internets, no city dwellers.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> My thoughts exactly!
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >  How can you even consider selling that barn?
> > 
> >  RB
> > 
> > > On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > > As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the
> farm next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine
> it as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its
> really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the
> 1890s or early 1900s.
> > > The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but
> by removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a
> couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> > > There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60
> or there about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period
> starting maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with
> minimal maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built
> probably in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms
> share a stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that
> stops perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms,
> just stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want
> to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> > > The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres,
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a
> new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the
> river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> > > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And the roads in the interior. If you want to call them roads, that is.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I used to work for Intl. Paper back in the mid 70s, who at that time owned 
> most of the North woods.   
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At 
> least not reliably.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > > wrote:
> > 
> > We have internets in Maine.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> No Internets, no city dwellers.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> My thoughts exactly!
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>  
>  How can you even consider selling that barn?
>  
>  RB
>  
> > On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm 
> > next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine 
> > it as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. 
> > Its really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in 
> > the 1890s or early 1900s.
> > The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> > removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a 
> > couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> > There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or 
> > there about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period 
> > starting maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with 
> > minimal maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built 
> > probably in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs 
> > bedrooms share a stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a 
> > stairwell that stops perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open 
> > into the two rooms, just stops at a wall. If you were facing north 
> > you'd have a step level with your right foot but have to step down two 
> > steps with your left. You'd want to be awfully careful going to the 
> > bathroom in the night. ;)
> > The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, 
> > currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and 
> > put a new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big 
> > lot near the river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through 
> > my head...
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I used to work for Intl. Paper back in the mid 70s, who at that time owned
most of the North woods.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At
> least not reliably.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > We have internets in Maine.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> No Internets, no city dwellers.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My thoughts exactly!
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> > On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  How can you even consider selling that barn?
> 
>  RB
> 
> > On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the
> farm next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine
> it as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its
> really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the
> 1890s or early 1900s.
> > The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but
> by removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a
> couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> > There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or
> there about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period
> starting maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with
> minimal maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built
> probably in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms
> share a stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that
> stops perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms,
> just stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want
> to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> > The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres,
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a
> new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the
> river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> > -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-19 13:12, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

True, but their web site describes it as an all season tire, not a
snow tire. They have a separate section for snow tires.


And it's a 65,000 mile warranty all season tire, not a winter tire with 
no wear rating.


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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True, but their web site describes it as an all season tire, not a snow tire. 
They have a separate section for snow tires.

I could argue semantics, but if they advertise it for sale they should be able 
to get it here. Why would that be any different than Tire Rack shipping a set 
to me?

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Since December 15, 2014, only tires with the mountain snowflake icon, or 
> studded tires, are recognized as acceptable winter tires in Quebec."
> 
> https://www.kanetix.ca/resources/quebec-winter-tire-law
> 
> Might explain why the Tampa tire store said 'we don't sell snow tires'.
> 
> On 2020-10-19 12:58, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> So that’s what that means…
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

"Since December 15, 2014, only tires with the mountain snowflake icon, 
or studded tires, are recognized as acceptable winter tires in Quebec."


https://www.kanetix.ca/resources/quebec-winter-tire-law

Might explain why the Tampa tire store said 'we don't sell snow tires'.

On 2020-10-19 12:58, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

So that’s what that means…


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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So that’s what that means…

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-19 12:40, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s what mine are. 215/55 R16.
>> I was looking at the Firestone Weathergrip AS touring:
> 
> It appears they're Quebec legal year round.
> *3 Peak Mountain Snowflake certified*
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-19 12:40, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s what mine are. 215/55 R16.

I was looking at the Firestone Weathergrip AS touring:


It appears they're Quebec legal year round.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I thought Curt said they didn’t have it at the camp? Or cell service? At least 
not reliably.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> We have internets in Maine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No Internets, no city dwellers.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My thoughts exactly!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 How can you even consider selling that barn?
 
 RB
 
> On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm 
> next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it 
> as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its 
> really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 
> 1890s or early 1900s.
> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a 
> couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably 
> in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with 
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd 
> want to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, 
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put 
> a new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near 
> the river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> -Curt
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what mine are. 215/55 R16.

I was looking at the Firestone Weathergrip AS touring:

https://www.firestonetire.com/tire/weathergrip 


-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-19 11:54, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Now to choose which Hakka to put on it.  Looks like 205/65R16 or 215/55R16.
> 
> I'm fairly sure my E320 has 215/55 on it.
> General GMax are more high performance than all season, as it turns out. But 
> maybe 205/65 would have worked slightly better in snow.
> 
> I should have spent a bit more for the Continental DWS, which were the 
> snowiest non-Hakka all seasons you could get at the time.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

We have internets in Maine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No Internets, no city dwellers.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My thoughts exactly!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How can you even consider selling that barn?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm 
 next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it 
 as a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its 
 really weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 
 1890s or early 1900s.
 The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
 removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a 
 couple of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
 There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
 about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
 maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
 maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
 the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
 stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
 perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
 stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with 
 your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want 
 to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
 The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, 
 currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a 
 new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near 
 the river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-19 11:54, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Now to choose which Hakka to put on it.  Looks like 205/65R16 or 
215/55R16.


I'm fairly sure my E320 has 215/55 on it.
General GMax are more high performance than all season, as it turns out. 
But maybe 205/65 would have worked slightly better in snow.


I should have spent a bit more for the Continental DWS, which were the 
snowiest non-Hakka all seasons you could get at the time.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No Internets, no city dwellers.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My thoughts exactly!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How can you even consider selling that barn?
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
>>> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
>>> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
>>> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
>>> 1900s.
>>> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
>>> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
>>> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
>>> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
>>> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
>>> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
>>> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
>>> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
>>> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
>>> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
>>> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
>>> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
>>> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
>>> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
>>> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
>>> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
>>> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

My thoughts exactly!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How can you even consider selling that barn?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
>> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
>> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
>> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
>> 1900s.
>> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
>> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
>> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
>> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
>> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
>> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
>> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
>> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
>> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
>> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
>> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
>> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
>> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
>> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
>> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
>> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
>> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

17” wheels on the W210 were optional, I believe. 16” wheel are standard, at 
least that’s what’s on the three W210s around here.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried a 15" wheel (from 124) I had laying around, and it does not go on
> the E320.  Also, the wheels that came on the E320 are 17", not 16", I
> hadn't realized they were so large.  I hate them.
> 
> I found two more 16" wheels, so now I have a set of four that nearly match
> in style, but that do match in specs.  (7.5", ET41.)
> 
> Now to choose which Hakka to put on it.  Looks like 205/65R16 or 215/55R16.
> The former is narrower, and might dig into snow better, but the recommended
> rim width is narrower than the 7.5" of the rims I have.  Looks like the 
> latter is
> the mainstream recommendation.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels for W210

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I tried a 15" wheel (from 124) I had laying around, and it does not go on
the E320.  Also, the wheels that came on the E320 are 17", not 16", I
hadn't realized they were so large.  I hate them.

I found two more 16" wheels, so now I have a set of four that nearly match
in style, but that do match in specs.  (7.5", ET41.)

Now to choose which Hakka to put on it.  Looks like 205/65R16 or 215/55R16.
The former is narrower, and might dig into snow better, but the recommended
rim width is narrower than the 7.5" of the rims I have.  Looks like the latter 
is
the mainstream recommendation.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How can you even consider selling that barn?

RB

On 18/10/2020 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next to 
ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U where 
our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird how they 
broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 1900s.
The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by removing 
a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple of the small 
fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting maybe 
15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal maintenance.The 
house is a whole different story, it was built probably in the 1880s and is 
laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a stairwell but imagine you 
come out your door to a stairwell that stops perpendicularly in front of you, 
it doesn't open into the two rooms, just stops at a wall. If you were facing 
north you'd have a step level with your right foot but have to step down two 
steps with your left. You'd want to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in 
the night. ;)
The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on the 
lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
$125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
-Curt



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[MBZ] ain't run for 6 years but maybe I can get $1300 for meth

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-car-for-sale/7203712183.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No longer overcrowded.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm guessing spuds are growing in those fields
>
> --FT
>
> On 10/19/20 12:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
> >  On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   Where exactly is this?
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm
> next to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as
> a U where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really
> weird how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or
> early 1900s.
> > The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple
> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> > There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or
> there about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period
> starting maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with
> minimal maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built
> probably in the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms
> share a stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that
> stops perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms,
> just stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with
> your right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want
> to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> > The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres,
> currently we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a
> new one on the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the
> river for $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> > -Curt
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[MBZ] Catalytic converters have been removed for extra grown. Upgraded straight pipe and exhaust and been added

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Come on y'all, gotta jump on this!  Price reduced!  The extra grown is 
worth every penny!



 Mercedes-Benz G-Class G 55 AMG Sport Utility 4D - $49,500(Okatie)

https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/cto/d/okatie-mercedes-benz-class-55-amg-sport/7215510302.html

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[MBZ] Crack dealer also sells used cars as a front

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[MBZ] not a bad looking cheepcheep 124 E320 and honest seller

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https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-1995-e320-mercedes-benz/7216215540.html

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Re: [MBZ] Weight limit 20,000lb

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That newsbabe was kinda hot

--FT

On 10/18/20 9:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Professional driver on a closed circui, I mean, public road.
Please do not try this at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7FKYU-cwE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4dEfNp9XLw

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

If it will tell you what part is broken you can just order and install it
yourself, saving some cash potentially on repair people.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my
> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access
> the more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I
> prefer analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who
> probably does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>
> clay
>
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
>
> > On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
> > lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
> > replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
> > serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
> >
> > Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
> > approaches to design and quality control.
> >
> > ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
> > touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
> > avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
> > that can break.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after
> two
> >> major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
> >> replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
> >> junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
> >>
> >> OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
> >>> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
> >>> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
> >>> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
> >>> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
> >>> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
> >>> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
> >>>
> >>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better
> engineered
> >>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
> >>>
> >>> Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm guessing spuds are growing in those fields

--FT

On 10/19/20 12:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
 On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:
  
  Where exactly is this?


On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next to 
ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U where 
our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird how they 
broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 1900s.
The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by removing 
a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple of the small 
fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting maybe 
15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal maintenance.The 
house is a whole different story, it was built probably in the 1880s and is 
laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a stairwell but imagine you 
come out your door to a stairwell that stops perpendicularly in front of you, 
it doesn't open into the two rooms, just stops at a wall. If you were facing 
north you'd have a step level with your right foot but have to step down two 
steps with your left. You'd want to be awfully careful going to the bathroom in 
the night. ;)
The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on the 
lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
$125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Actually Maine is the new destination for urban folk. They are fleeing 
overtaxed, over regulated, over crowded Covid filled democrat run shithole 
cities like NY and SF.

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It does when it’s almost in Canada. Caribou, Maine is not exactly where the 
> folks from major cities are decamping to. You want granite in your house 
> there you just go out in the front yard and dig some up…
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A house with a new timber frame barn on 3 acres for 25K? That doesn’t make 
>> any sense.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
  On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Where exactly is this?
>>> 
 On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
>>> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
>>> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
>>> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
>>> 1900s.
>>> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
>>> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
>>> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
>>> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
>>> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
>>> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
>>> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
>>> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
>>> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
>>> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
>>> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
>>> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
>>> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
>>> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
>>> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
>>> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
>>> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Weight limit 20,000lb

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They couldn’t see what was happening, other than maybe the signs as they passed 
by them.

They’re lucky to have survived.

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-19 07:23, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Death wish. I can’t even imagine.
> 
> I wonder what the charter bus passengers thought of that.
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Re: [MBZ] Weight limit 20,000lb

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On 2020-10-19 07:23, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Death wish. I can’t even imagine.


I wonder what the charter bus passengers thought of that.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It does when it’s almost in Canada. Caribou, Maine is not exactly where the 
folks from major cities are decamping to. You want granite in your house there 
you just go out in the front yard and dig some up…

-D

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A house with a new timber frame barn on 3 acres for 25K? That doesn’t make 
> any sense.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
>>   On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Where exactly is this?
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
>> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
>> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
>> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
>> 1900s.
>> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
>> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
>> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
>> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
>> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
>> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
>> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
>> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
>> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
>> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
>> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
>> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
>> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
>> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
>> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
>> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
>> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Increasing the vast northern estate

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

A house with a new timber frame barn on 3 acres for 25K? That doesn’t make any 
sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grimes+Mill,+Caribou,+ME+04736/@46.84643,-67.9452685,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cbcb790b146f9e1:0xdf571a886f0d60a9!8m2!3d46.8464319!4d-67.9430797
>On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 9:13:54 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Where exactly is this?
> 
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As predicted dad and I have at least made an agreement to buy the farm next 
> to ours. I'll make a graphic at some point but basically imagine it as a U 
> where our existing land sits in the middle of the U shape. Its really weird 
> how they broke it up all of which happened probably in the 1890s or early 
> 1900s.
> The new land is about 72 acres, smaller than our existing farm but by 
> removing a couple of existing fence rows we should be able to make a couple 
> of the small fields easier to farm and thus easier to rent.
> There is also a house and barn, the barn is, I'm guessing, 30x60 or there 
> about. Its beautiful, they built it over about a 10 year period starting 
> maybe 15 years ago. Post and beam it'll last 100 years with minimal 
> maintenance.The house is a whole different story, it was built probably in 
> the 1880s and is laid out poorly. Two of the upstairs bedrooms share a 
> stairwell but imagine you come out your door to a stairwell that stops 
> perpendicularly in front of you, it doesn't open into the two rooms, just 
> stops at a wall. If you were facing north you'd have a step level with your 
> right foot but have to step down two steps with your left. You'd want to be 
> awfully careful going to the bathroom in the night. ;)
> The plan is to portion off the house and barn with about 3 acres, currently 
> we're thinking to ask $25k. If you tore the house down and put a new one on 
> the lot you could have a really nice place on a big lot near the river for 
> $125,000. Stupid thoughts keep running through my head...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Weight limit 20,000lb

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Death wish. I can’t even imagine.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Professional driver on a closed circui, I mean, public road.
> Please do not try this at home.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7FKYU-cwE
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[dan--- via Mercedes]

PO of my house put one of those in on the main garage door, so I got it by 
default when I bought the house.

The notifications are a little annoying, but the ability to open and close with 
the app can be convenient when I’m in a car that doesn’t have a remote.

Mine is a belt drive, and the quietest garage door and opener I’ve ever had.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It 
> has Wifi. I  valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to 
> open and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on 
> earth. I lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my grown 
> children. 
> Please don’t tell them. This has been fun. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my 
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the 
>> more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer 
>> analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably 
>> does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
 major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
 replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
 junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
 
 OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
 
 On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
> 
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
> 
> Bob Massmann
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