Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Don’t move to Charleston!  NC is close enough. Welcome to the eastern coast and 
watch out for creeping nannyism in NC. Avoid Chapel Liberhill. 

-FT

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> On Jul 28, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> To North Carolina! Oregon’s cost of living and property taxes just continue 
> to climb, and our state is becoming a cesspool of homelessness and criminal 
> activity. Added to all this, our HOA is full of negativity and drama, so we 
> started looking for someplace else to live. My BIL lives in Lexington, NC, 
> and things are much more peaceful there. We put our deposit on a 2501SqFt 
> home on 1.23 acres which is currently under construction. The price is about 
> half what our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay off our lone and 
> other debt and still have enough to put about half down on the new house. 
> I’ve decided to sell our Sprinter to get more liquidity to move our stuff 
> out, get a temporary rental and wait while our house sells. You can bet I 
> won’t get a Blutec Diesel Sprinter next time!
> Kevin, moving out of Hillsboro, Oregon
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, 3500mi, Low Mileage Lutgart, soon to be up 
> for sale
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, soon to be up for sale as well if the 
> darned shop ever calls me back!!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Project Farm.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

The guy with farm in his username had a $100 digital torque meter with
peak hold that he used for testing penetrating lubes. Practical Farmer?

On 2021-07-28 22:17, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Pick up a ten or twenty pound weight with it.
>
> One of the videos I posted this time or last time the guy made a
> really slick jig for the drive that went in a vice. That video he had
> a torque meter.

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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I always like AvE videos.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

There is a rather profane Canadian who has all kinds of tool testing videos 
including some torque wrenches. Search for AvE tool reviews.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Scott says:

> We can always use another Benz driver and also someone that has seen the 
> wages of collectivism.

My God. What a tactful statement.

Kevin says:

> The price is about half what our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay 
> off our lone and other debt and still have enough to put about half down on 
> the new house

Congratulations on your new digs. I think I'd keep the 240d and have it 
shipped. They don't make them like that anymore.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
There is a rather profane Canadian who has all kinds of tool testing videos 
including some torque wrenches. Search for AvE tool reviews.

Allan

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 10:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> The guy with farm in his username had a $100 digital torque meter with 
> peak hold that he used for testing penetrating lubes. Practical Farmer?
> 
> On 2021-07-28 22:17, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Pick up a ten or twenty pound weight with it.
> > 
> > One of the videos I posted this time or last time the guy made a
> > really slick jig for the drive that went in a vice. That video he had
> > a torque meter.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

> our HOA is full of negativity and drama

They all are. I would avoid living in an HOA neighborhood unless you really 
want the restrictions and community ammenities. Sort of a personal preference I 
guess.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Welcome to the Tar Heel state.  We can always use another Benz driver and also 
someone that has seen the wages of collectivism.  I live in a very rural (think 
farms) area 30 miles north of Raleigh but we visited Lexington often before my 
wife died.  My wife was a big fan of Bob Timberlake, the artist, who has a nice 
gallery in Lexington.  Lexington is famous for BBQ but I prefer Dunn style.  
Scott

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Subject: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

To North Carolina! Oregon’s cost of living and property taxes just continue to 
climb, and our state is becoming a cesspool of homelessness and criminal 
activity. Added to all this, our HOA is full of negativity and drama, so we 
started looking for someplace else to live. My BIL lives in Lexington, NC, and 
things are much more peaceful there. We put our deposit on a 2501SqFt home on 
1.23 acres which is currently under construction. The price is about half what 
our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay off our lone and other debt and 
still have enough to put about half down on the new house. I’ve decided to sell 
our Sprinter to get more liquidity to move our stuff out, get a temporary 
rental and wait while our house sells. You can bet I won’t get a Blutec Diesel 
Sprinter next time!
Kevin, moving out of Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, 3500mi, Low Mileage Lutgart, soon to be up 
for sale
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, soon to be up for sale as well if the darned 
shop ever calls me back!!

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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The guy with farm in his username had a $100 digital torque meter with 
peak hold that he used for testing penetrating lubes. Practical Farmer?


On 2021-07-28 22:17, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Pick up a ten or twenty pound weight with it.

One of the videos I posted this time or last time the guy made a
really slick jig for the drive that went in a vice. That video he had
a torque meter.


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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Pick up a ten or twenty pound weight with it.

One of the videos I posted this time or last time the guy made a really slick 
jig for the drive that went in a vice. That video he had a torque meter.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

On 2021-07-28 18:33, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> I thought I posted links. Maybe not.
>
>
> https://youtu.be/XaqBA-xSGbc

Why clamp your shiny chrome socket in the vise, when you can clamp the
square drive of the wrench in the vise?

And how do you know the cheap luggage scale is more accurate than the
torque wrench?

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[MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-28 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
To North Carolina! Oregon’s cost of living and property taxes just continue to 
climb, and our state is becoming a cesspool of homelessness and criminal 
activity. Added to all this, our HOA is full of negativity and drama, so we 
started looking for someplace else to live. My BIL lives in Lexington, NC, and 
things are much more peaceful there. We put our deposit on a 2501SqFt home on 
1.23 acres which is currently under construction. The price is about half what 
our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay off our lone and other debt and 
still have enough to put about half down on the new house. I’ve decided to sell 
our Sprinter to get more liquidity to move our stuff out, get a temporary 
rental and wait while our house sells. You can bet I won’t get a Blutec Diesel 
Sprinter next time!
Kevin, moving out of Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, 3500mi, Low Mileage Lutgart, soon to be up 
for sale
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, soon to be up for sale as well if the darned 
shop ever calls me back!!

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Re: [MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

That looks like a good deal

On 7/28/2021 2:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

This looks pretty nice, could be a nice ride and price is not too crazy

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/cary-1986-mercedes-benz-420-sel/7357460297.html

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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-07-28 18:33, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

I thought I posted links. Maybe not.


https://youtu.be/XaqBA-xSGbc


Why clamp your shiny chrome socket in the vise, when you can clamp the 
square drive of the wrench in the vise?


And how do you know the cheap luggage scale is more accurate than the 
torque wrench?


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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yes thru Aug. 5 I think.

Allan


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> On sale atHF now?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.
> > 
> > Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the case 
> > with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I own 3 of each, 1/2, 3/8, 1/4 ...[all part of "go bag" tool kits] and have
> >> put them all to good use with no complaints. No failures and while not
> >> certified to aviation test standards, close enough. When I got them [bulk
> >> buy while on sale, putting together tool travel kits for the fleet] I did
> >> test them against a tested and certified torque wrench. They all were
> >> within a couple pounds of the cert wrench. Good enough.
> >> For the on sale price, a bargain. HF now treats their tools like Craftsman
> >> used to, it breaks, you walk in, they give you a new one, no grief.
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> FWIW, about 4 years ago there was an article on HF torque wrenches and 
> >>> they
> >>> did very well.
> >>> How long they last is unknown.
> >>> YMMV
> >>> Fred
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:14 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
>  I have a 1/2" beam-type torque wrench. I like the simplicity of it but it
>  can be hard to use when the wrench position has the scale facing away
> >>> from
>  me. I have been wanting to get a 1/2" and 3/8" click-type for
> >>> convenience.
>  HF has their Pittsburgh brand wrenches on sale right now, wondering if
>  anyone has experience with them? I have some other Pittsburgh hand tools
>  and have found them entirely adeqate, at least as good as modern
> >>> Craftsman
>  tools.
>  
>  Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Maybe granny left the mortal coil in it

--FT
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> On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet that's to deal with the smell.
> 
> Offer $1.5k and Bob's your uncle.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 4:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Like the candle in the center console. I think that's a first for me.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This looks pretty nice, could be a nice ride and price is not too crazy
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/cary-1986-mercedes-benz-420-sel/7357460297.html
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
On sale atHF now?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.
> 
> Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the case 
> with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> I own 3 of each, 1/2, 3/8, 1/4 ...[all part of "go bag" tool kits] and have
>> put them all to good use with no complaints. No failures and while not
>> certified to aviation test standards, close enough. When I got them [bulk
>> buy while on sale, putting together tool travel kits for the fleet] I did
>> test them against a tested and certified torque wrench. They all were
>> within a couple pounds of the cert wrench. Good enough.
>> For the on sale price, a bargain. HF now treats their tools like Craftsman
>> used to, it breaks, you walk in, they give you a new one, no grief.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> FWIW, about 4 years ago there was an article on HF torque wrenches and they
>>> did very well.
>>> How long they last is unknown.
>>> YMMV
>>> Fred
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:14 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I have a 1/2" beam-type torque wrench. I like the simplicity of it but it
 can be hard to use when the wrench position has the scale facing away
>>> from
 me. I have been wanting to get a 1/2" and 3/8" click-type for
>>> convenience.
 HF has their Pittsburgh brand wrenches on sale right now, wondering if
 anyone has experience with them? I have some other Pittsburgh hand tools
 and have found them entirely adeqate, at least as good as modern
>>> Craftsman
 tools.
 
 Allan
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>>> --
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>>> Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I thought I posted links. Maybe not.


https://youtu.be/XaqBA-xSGbc

https://youtu.be/xZID9uOy7qU

https://youtu.be/1GrA5q_eu1k

https://youtu.be/lZUDH13yln0

https://youtu.be/9AQ6PJ3hDVA

https://youtu.be/FEZ-ajSksHs

One of these should suffice.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

I wouldn't know where to go to get a torque wrench calibrated.

And probably could not be done for the cost of a new one, if they are selling 
at $15.

Enclosed info sheet claims 4% or better accuracy, recommends recalibration 
every 6 months (I don't know if that assumes daily use or what -- it would be 
unusual for me to use the wrench more than a 6-8 times a year, really.

Allan

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 6:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2021-07-28 17:36, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.
> >
> > Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the
> > case with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.
>
> 20 years ago, somebody in a factory tool crib bought a handful of the
> 1/2", tested them at work, and said they were all within 4%.
>
> Don't know how that applies to current production, or how long the
> accuracy lasts.
>
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I wouldn't know where to go to get a torque wrench calibrated.

And probably could not be done for the cost of a new one, if they are selling 
at $15.

Enclosed info sheet claims 4% or better accuracy, recommends recalibration 
every 6 months (I don't know if that assumes daily use or what -- it would be 
unusual for me to use the wrench more than a 6-8 times a year, really.

Allan

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 6:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2021-07-28 17:36, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.
> > 
> > Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the
> > case with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.
> 
> 20 years ago, somebody in a factory tool crib bought a handful of the 
> 1/2", tested them at work, and said they were all within 4%.
> 
> Don't know how that applies to current production, or how long the 
> accuracy lasts.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-07-28 17:36, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.

Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the
case with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.


20 years ago, somebody in a factory tool crib bought a handful of the 
1/2", tested them at work, and said they were all within 4%.


Don't know how that applies to current production, or how long the 
accuracy lasts.


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Re: [MBZ] HF Pittsburgh torque wrenches, any good?

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I picked up a 3/8" and a 1/2" for $15/each.

Made in Taiwan, not China, for whatever that's worth, but has been the case 
with some other HF stuff that gets good reviews.

Allan

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> I own 3 of each, 1/2, 3/8, 1/4 ...[all part of "go bag" tool kits] and have
> put them all to good use with no complaints. No failures and while not
> certified to aviation test standards, close enough. When I got them [bulk
> buy while on sale, putting together tool travel kits for the fleet] I did
> test them against a tested and certified torque wrench. They all were
> within a couple pounds of the cert wrench. Good enough.
> For the on sale price, a bargain. HF now treats their tools like Craftsman
> used to, it breaks, you walk in, they give you a new one, no grief.
> 
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> > FWIW, about 4 years ago there was an article on HF torque wrenches and they
> > did very well.
> > How long they last is unknown.
> > YMMV
> > Fred
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> > > can be hard to use when the wrench position has the scale facing away
> > from
> > > me. I have been wanting to get a 1/2" and 3/8" click-type for
> > convenience.
> > > HF has their Pittsburgh brand wrenches on sale right now, wondering if
> > > anyone has experience with them? I have some other Pittsburgh hand tools
> > > and have found them entirely adeqate, at least as good as modern
> > Craftsman
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Re: [MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Ah I didn't catch that on first read.

I do wonder why the transmission needed a rebuild at under 90K miles, normally 
those are pretty stout. Would this be one that could have had the broken B2 
piston problem? I've only heard of that with diesels. Or maybe Granny had a 
heavy foot in her younger days?

Allan

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> I bet that's to deal with the smell.
> Offer $1.5k and Bob's your uncle.
> 
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>> Like the candle in the center console. I think that's a first for me.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
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>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I bet that's to deal with the smell.

Offer $1.5k and Bob's your uncle.

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> Like the candle in the center console. I think that's a first for me.
>
> Allan
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> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I can take a look if you want. Let me know.


Rick

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I meant Michigan City, Indiana. It's in the northwest corner of Indiana
about 45 minutes from Midway Airport.

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> Not sure where that is, and Google can't find it either. If it's near
> Michigan state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
> > sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
> > independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
> > shouting distance of West Michigan?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Miles?
> > >
> > > Love the color.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> > > > Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is
> the
> > > shop's phone number.
> > > >
> > > > RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
> > > top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty
> good
> > > for 38 years.
> > > >
> > > > I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
> > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Rick is in the neighborhood if it’s Michigan City.

-D

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> I’m about 3 hours from there. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I meant Michigan City, Indiana. It's in the northwest corner of Indiana
>> about 45 minutes from Midway Airport.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:49 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not sure where that is, and Google can't find it either. If it's near
>>> Michigan state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
 sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
 independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
 shouting distance of West Michigan?
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Miles?
> 
> Love the color.
> 
> -D
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
>> Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
>> Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is
>>> the
> shop's phone number.
>> 
>> RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
> top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty
>>> good
> for 38 years.
>> 
>> I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2015 ML250 Blutec - 96k miles - $19,500

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Should be fine if a little boring as a grocery-getter and driver, probably 
wouldn't want to try to tow much with it.

Allan

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> On 2021-07-28 15:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > 4cyl?
> 
> Yes, 201HP, so weaker than a M112, but probably weighs less than a W163.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2015 ML250 Blutec - 96k miles - $19,500

2021-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-07-28 15:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

4cyl?


Yes, 201HP, so weaker than a M112, but probably weighs less than a W163.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
I’m about 3 hours from there. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I meant Michigan City, Indiana. It's in the northwest corner of Indiana
> about 45 minutes from Midway Airport.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:49 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure where that is, and Google can't find it either. If it's near
>> Michigan state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
>>> sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
>>> independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
>>> shouting distance of West Michigan?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Miles?
 
 Love the color.
 
 -D
 
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> Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is
>> the
 shop's phone number.
> 
> RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
 top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty
>> good
 for 38 years.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Not written on the windshield and the doors were locked.

Mitch

On 2021-07-28 15:34, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Miles?

Love the color.





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[MBZ] So what would be a reasonable offer on this dead 05E320 wagon

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’m going to go take a look at it when I get back home. Basically like the 
wagon I have not 4matic though. Woman said the owner was told it needed 
(apparently) a new ECU (or some computer) to make it run.  “She said all the 
lights come on and battery is new. The dealership said it’s a small computer 
glitch.   Just the kind for that model. It’s about 1000 at the dealership“  

I’ll take my scanner and see what it shows. If it’s the ECU a new one will need 
to be cloned so $1k is probably about right. But then it would be a $4k car at 
least I would think. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/960052191506702/

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Re: [MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Like the candle in the center console. I think that's a first for me.

Allan

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> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2015 ML250 Blutec - 96k miles - $19,500

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
4cyl?

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[MBZ] Selling my deceased grandmothers old Benz. 86 420SEL $2600

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
This looks pretty nice, could be a nice ride and price is not too crazy

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/cary-1986-mercedes-benz-420-sel/7357460297.html

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess if your head has warped, than any Mercedes will look great.

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> Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t
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>
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 560SL - 112k miles - $10,500

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This will go fast. After all, it's a flagship.

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> Like the paint. Not crazy about interior color or the chromed wheels.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2015 ML250 Blutec - 96k miles - $19,500

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would be surprised if it had real leather seats. That is actually not a
bad price.

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>
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[MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t seem 
too bad unless head has warped

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1993-mb-300ce/7357588477.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I meant Michigan City, Indiana. It's in the northwest corner of Indiana
about 45 minutes from Midway Airport.

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> Michigan state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
> > sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
> > independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
> > shouting distance of West Michigan?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Miles?
> > >
> > > Love the color.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> > > > Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is
> the
> > > shop's phone number.
> > > >
> > > > RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
> > > top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty
> good
> > > for 38 years.
> > > >
> > > > I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
> > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Not sure where that is, and Google can't find it either. If it's near Michigan 
state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.


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> There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
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> independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
> shouting distance of West Michigan?
> 
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Miles?
> >
> > Love the color.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> > > Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is the
> > shop's phone number.
> > >
> > > RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
> > top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty good
> > for 38 years.
> > >
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[MBZ] 2015 ML250 Blutec - 96k miles - $19,500

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Didn't realize they ever put that small an engine in an ML.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-diesel-suv/7357315809.html

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[MBZ] 1986 560SL - 112k miles - $10,500

2021-07-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Like the paint. Not crazy about interior color or the chromed wheels.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/palos-heights-mercedes-sl/7357263307.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
shouting distance of West Michigan?

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Miles?
>
> Love the color.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> > Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is the
> shop's phone number.
> >
> > RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
> top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty good
> for 38 years.
> >
> > I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

2021-07-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Miles?

Love the color.

-D

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> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
> Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is the 
> shop's phone number.
> 
> RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on top 
> plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty good for 38 
> years.
> 
> I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Correct, and the management is immoral and lacking in real solutions to their 
finance problems.  Seek a new employer, this stop gap won't solve the 
underlying problems.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jul 27, 2021 11:59:04 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes :

> They want cheaper labor.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 27, 2021 10:54 PM
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> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Why do companies…
> 
> Lay off 300 people then post on LinkedIn about how they are hiring (for 
> positions they just laid off)?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Say that again on Okietalk...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jul 28, 2021 12:05:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> That's what he said, not what he did/does.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:55 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Incorrect. Higher incomes, higher employment rates, lower prices were a
>> feature of the former admin. cf. what has happened in the last few months.
>> Numbers don’t lie. I’ll stop there.
>> 
>> -FT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> but who had no empathy for the lower classes of poorer people. Even
>> though he wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted for him because he told
>> them he had a plan to make the country great and they all assumed they
>> would make more money.
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Randy, take it Okietalk, if you care to defend your position.

Jul 28, 2021 11:51:22 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes :

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Don’t forget the stockholders, too.

-D

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> On Jul 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 27/07/2021 10:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Lay off 300 people then post on LinkedIn about how they are hiring (for 
>> positions they just laid off)?
>> 
> 
> You forget that the USA is all about capitalism and the dream of being 
> wealthy. 70+ million people voted for a recent now ex-President who was all 
> about making money in any way possible for himself and helping his friends to 
> do the same but who had no empathy for the lower classes of poorer people. 
> Even though he wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted for him because he 
> told them he had a plan to make the country great and they all assumed they 
> would make more money.
> 
> Companies hire business grads who have been taught how to make money. It is 
> not about making a better product these days. It is all about how to make 
> things cheaper and sell them for more so that the company executives can rake 
> in the cash.
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's what he said, not what he did/does.

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:55 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Incorrect. Higher incomes, higher employment rates, lower prices were a
> feature of the former admin. cf. what has happened in the last few months.
> Numbers don’t lie. I’ll stop there.
>
> -FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > but who had no empathy for the lower classes of poorer people. Even
> though he wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted for him because he told
> them he had a plan to make the country great and they all assumed they
> would make more money.
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Dan will be along shortly to shut this thread down in any event.


On 28/07/2021 10:55 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Incorrect. Higher incomes, higher employment rates, lower prices were a feature 
of the former admin. cf. what has happened in the last few months. Numbers 
don’t lie. I’ll stop there.

-FT

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

but who had no empathy for the lower classes of poorer people. Even though he 
wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted for him because he told them he had a 
plan to make the country great and they all assumed they would make more money.



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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Incorrect. Higher incomes, higher employment rates, lower prices were a feature 
of the former admin. cf. what has happened in the last few months. Numbers 
don’t lie. I’ll stop there. 

-FT

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> but who had no empathy for the lower classes of poorer people. Even though he 
> wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted for him because he told them he had 
> a plan to make the country great and they all assumed they would make more 
> money.

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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 27/07/2021 10:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Lay off 300 people then post on LinkedIn about how they are hiring (for 
positions they just laid off)?



You forget that the USA is all about capitalism and the dream of being 
wealthy. 70+ million people voted for a recent now ex-President who was 
all about making money in any way possible for himself and helping his 
friends to do the same but who had no empathy for the lower classes of 
poorer people. Even though he wouldn't do a thing for them, they voted 
for him because he told them he had a plan to make the country great and 
they all assumed they would make more money.


Companies hire business grads who have been taught how to make money. It 
is not about making a better product these days. It is all about how to 
make things cheaper and sell them for more so that the company 
executives can rake in the cash.



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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Same in FL if it involves more than (I think) 100 employees.

-D

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>  Apparently you live in a state with no employee protections. In MA you 
> can't do that, when you layoff a position you're saying "we don't need this 
> position anymore". You can't turn right around and say you do actually need 
> that position. If you do the former employee is eligible for compensation...
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 11:54:06 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Lay off 300 people then post on LinkedIn about how they are hiring (for 
> positions they just laid off)?
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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Apparently you live in a state with no employee protections. In MA you can't 
do that, when you layoff a position you're saying "we don't need this position 
anymore". You can't turn right around and say you do actually need that 
position. If you do the former employee is eligible for compensation...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 11:54:06 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Lay off 300 people then post on LinkedIn about how they are hiring (for 
positions they just laid off)?

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Re: [MBZ] Why do companies…

2021-07-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
300 people, with 12 yr. experience X $22.00 per hour + insurance and
retirement plan. VS 300 new hires, with 0 yrs experience X $7.00 per hour +
absolute minimum insurance and zero retirement plan.
Do the math, you run the place and get paid on quarterly profits... you
just gave yourself a raise, and look good for the board of directors.
So.. "You're Fired X 300

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> They want cheaper labor.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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