date:20211206

The closest thing to take out I have had in the last 25 years is Papa
John's Pizza that I pick up myself after ordering online.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, 8:31 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 70s porn stars?
>
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 8:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings
>
> By the way, "Victoria Lord" and "Curtis Peens" sounds like porn actors.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> > I have ordered almost no take out food or delivery since the pandemic
> > began. I live out in the far unlit unknown so the likes of Uber Eats
> > and others don't bother with me.
> >
> > I cook at home, as I pretty much always have. The only change as been
> > since I haven't been going to the office, I don't eat lunch in town.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Take this surprisingly challenging quiz.
> >>
> >> *Pandemic cravings…*The pandemic changed the way we eat – and the way we
> >> get our food. The food delivery industry in the U.S. doubled during the
> >> pandemic, reported Kabir Ahuja, Vishwa Chandra, Victoria Lord, and
> Curtis
> >> Peens of McKinsey & Company.11
> >>
> >> One food delivery service recently published the 2021 Cravings
> Report*.*12 It’s
> >> chock-full of interesting tidbits about what we like to eat and how we
> >> treat the people who deliver our food. Learn more by taking this brief
> quiz.
> >>
> >> 1. What was the top-selling delivered grocery item in 2021?
> >>
> >> a. Ground beef
> >>
> >> b. Bananas
> >>
> >> c. Cream cheese
> >>
> >> d. Potatoes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2.  Which of these states has some of the politest customers in the
> country?
> >>
> >> a. Montana
> >>
> >> b. Mississippi
> >>
> >> c. New York
> >>
> >> d. Missouri
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 3. Which of these states is *not* known for its picky eaters?
> >>
> >> a. Georgia
> >>
> >> b. Illinois
> >>
> >> c. Connecticut
> >>
> >> d. South Dakota
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 4. What was the most popular cuisine ordered for delivery in 2021?
> >>
> >> a. Thai
> >>
> >> b. Italian
> >>
> >> c. Mexican
> >>
> >> d. Sushi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 5. Which of these was the most popular item ordered for delivery?
> >>
> >> a. California roll
> >>
> >> b. Pizza
> >>
> >> c. French fries
> >>
> >> d. Pad Thai
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Weekly Focus – Think About It *
> >>
> >> “You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough
> to
> >> eat six.”13
> >>
> >> *—Yogi Berra, baseball player, manager, and coach *
> >>
> >> <
> https://in.venntive.com/c1.pl?42999fe23984c288575e1d8e3fdb00355dff2e359e904640
> >
> >>
> >> 11
> >>
> https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ordering-in-the-rapid-evolution-of-food-delivery
> >> <
> https://in.venntive.com/c1.pl?3d6b56c93f4f05ec9c0a9c6f006228d8f41b775ab1fc2dc9
> >
> >>
> >> [1]2 https://www.uber.com/newsroom/the-2021-uber-eats-cravings-report/
> >> <
> https://in.venntive.com/c1.pl?fc93f0abb07682c1956bfb2f1a4f93219b531e3c7ab6ae15
> >
> >>
> >> [1]3 https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/food-quotes
> >> <
> https://in.venntive.com/c1.pl?a645db9175b8aee2d0e12dc11c387ac999ded6abe37afc90
> >
> >>
> >> *Answers: 1) b; 2) a; 3) d; 4) c; 5) c*
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Re: [MBZ] 1978 240D - 123k miles - $3,200

If it's been in Champaign-Urbana for any length of time, a lack of rust would 
be amazing.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 8:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 1978 240D - 123k miles - $3,200

Low miles and manual climate controls but with the rust and interior I'd say 
it's overpriced.

https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/d/urbana-1978-mercedes-240d/7417406599.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings

70s porn stars?

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 8:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings

By the way, "Victoria Lord" and "Curtis Peens" sounds like porn actors.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> I have ordered almost no take out food or delivery since the pandemic
> began. I live out in the far unlit unknown so the likes of Uber Eats
> and others don't bother with me.
>
> I cook at home, as I pretty much always have. The only change as been
> since I haven't been going to the office, I don't eat lunch in town.
>
> Allan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Take this surprisingly challenging quiz.
>>
>> *Pandemic cravings…*The pandemic changed the way we eat – and the way we
>> get our food. The food delivery industry in the U.S. doubled during the
>> pandemic, reported Kabir Ahuja, Vishwa Chandra, Victoria Lord, and Curtis
>> Peens of McKinsey & Company.11
>>
>> One food delivery service recently published the 2021 Cravings Report*.*12 
>> It’s
>> chock-full of interesting tidbits about what we like to eat and how we
>> treat the people who deliver our food. Learn more by taking this brief quiz.
>>
>> 1. What was the top-selling delivered grocery item in 2021?
>>
>> a. Ground beef
>>
>> b. Bananas
>>
>> c. Cream cheese
>>
>> d. Potatoes
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Which of these states has some of the politest customers in the country?
>>
>> a. Montana
>>
>> b. Mississippi
>>
>> c. New York
>>
>> d. Missouri
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Which of these states is *not* known for its picky eaters?
>>
>> a. Georgia
>>
>> b. Illinois
>>
>> c. Connecticut
>>
>> d. South Dakota
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. What was the most popular cuisine ordered for delivery in 2021?
>>
>> a. Thai
>>
>> b. Italian
>>
>> c. Mexican
>>
>> d. Sushi
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. Which of these was the most popular item ordered for delivery?
>>
>> a. California roll
>>
>> b. Pizza
>>
>> c. French fries
>>
>> d. Pad Thai
>>
>>
>>
>> *Weekly Focus – Think About It *
>>
>> “You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to
>> eat six.”13
>>
>> *—Yogi Berra, baseball player, manager, and coach *
>>
>> 
>>
>> 11
>> https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ordering-in-the-rapid-evolution-of-food-delivery
>> 
>>
>> [1]2 https://www.uber.com/newsroom/the-2021-uber-eats-cravings-report/
>> 
>>
>> [1]3 https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/food-quotes
>> 
>>
>> *Answers: 1) b; 2) a; 3) d; 4) c; 5) c*
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[MBZ] 1978 240D - 123k miles - $3,200

Low miles and manual climate controls but with the rust and interior I'd say 
it's overpriced.

https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/d/urbana-1978-mercedes-240d/7417406599.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings

By the way, "Victoria Lord" and "Curtis Peens" sounds like porn actors.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> I have ordered almost no take out food or delivery since the pandemic 
> began. I live out in the far unlit unknown so the likes of Uber Eats 
> and others don't bother with me.
>
> I cook at home, as I pretty much always have. The only change as been 
> since I haven't been going to the office, I don't eat lunch in town.
>
> Allan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Take this surprisingly challenging quiz.
>>
>> *Pandemic cravings…*The pandemic changed the way we eat – and the way we
>> get our food. The food delivery industry in the U.S. doubled during the
>> pandemic, reported Kabir Ahuja, Vishwa Chandra, Victoria Lord, and Curtis
>> Peens of McKinsey & Company.11
>>
>> One food delivery service recently published the 2021 Cravings Report*.*12 
>> It’s
>> chock-full of interesting tidbits about what we like to eat and how we
>> treat the people who deliver our food. Learn more by taking this brief quiz.
>>
>> 1. What was the top-selling delivered grocery item in 2021?
>>
>> a. Ground beef
>>
>> b. Bananas
>>
>> c. Cream cheese
>>
>> d. Potatoes
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Which of these states has some of the politest customers in the country?
>>
>> a. Montana
>>
>> b. Mississippi
>>
>> c. New York
>>
>> d. Missouri
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Which of these states is *not* known for its picky eaters?
>>
>> a. Georgia
>>
>> b. Illinois
>>
>> c. Connecticut
>>
>> d. South Dakota
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. What was the most popular cuisine ordered for delivery in 2021?
>>
>> a. Thai
>>
>> b. Italian
>>
>> c. Mexican
>>
>> d. Sushi
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. Which of these was the most popular item ordered for delivery?
>>
>> a. California roll
>>
>> b. Pizza
>>
>> c. French fries
>>
>> d. Pad Thai
>>
>>
>>
>> *Weekly Focus – Think About It *
>>
>> “You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to
>> eat six.”13
>>
>> *—Yogi Berra, baseball player, manager, and coach *
>>
>> 
>>
>> 11
>> https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ordering-in-the-rapid-evolution-of-food-delivery
>> 
>>
>> [1]2 https://www.uber.com/newsroom/the-2021-uber-eats-cravings-report/
>> 
>>
>> [1]3 https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/food-quotes
>> 
>>
>> *Answers: 1) b; 2) a; 3) d; 4) c; 5) c*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings

I have ordered almost no take out food or delivery since the pandemic began. I 
live out in the far unlit unknown so the likes of Uber Eats and others don't 
bother with me.

I cook at home, as I pretty much always have. The only change as been since I 
haven't been going to the office, I don't eat lunch in town.

Allan


On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Take this surprisingly challenging quiz.
>
> *Pandemic cravings…*The pandemic changed the way we eat – and the way we
> get our food. The food delivery industry in the U.S. doubled during the
> pandemic, reported Kabir Ahuja, Vishwa Chandra, Victoria Lord, and Curtis
> Peens of McKinsey & Company.11
>
> One food delivery service recently published the 2021 Cravings Report*.*12 
> It’s
> chock-full of interesting tidbits about what we like to eat and how we
> treat the people who deliver our food. Learn more by taking this brief quiz.
>
> 1. What was the top-selling delivered grocery item in 2021?
>
> a. Ground beef
>
> b. Bananas
>
> c. Cream cheese
>
> d. Potatoes
>
>
>
> 2.  Which of these states has some of the politest customers in the country?
>
> a. Montana
>
> b. Mississippi
>
> c. New York
>
> d. Missouri
>
>
>
> 3. Which of these states is *not* known for its picky eaters?
>
> a. Georgia
>
> b. Illinois
>
> c. Connecticut
>
> d. South Dakota
>
>
>
> 4. What was the most popular cuisine ordered for delivery in 2021?
>
> a. Thai
>
> b. Italian
>
> c. Mexican
>
> d. Sushi
>
>
>
> 5. Which of these was the most popular item ordered for delivery?
>
> a. California roll
>
> b. Pizza
>
> c. French fries
>
> d. Pad Thai
>
>
>
> *Weekly Focus – Think About It *
>
> “You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to
> eat six.”13
>
> *—Yogi Berra, baseball player, manager, and coach *
>
> 
>
> 11
> https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ordering-in-the-rapid-evolution-of-food-delivery
> 
>
> [1]2 https://www.uber.com/newsroom/the-2021-uber-eats-cravings-report/
> 
>
> [1]3 https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/food-quotes
> 
>
> *Answers: 1) b; 2) a; 3) d; 4) c; 5) c*
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

 I forgot to mention the splash pan. My car isn't so bad, Angie's Golf is 
terrible, a big metal bump shield. That car is very low and I bottomed it out 
on a manhole cover once and bent the oil pan, the metal shield is to hopefully 
prevent a re-occurrence.Fortunately that car has a top mounted canister oil 
filter so the oil can be changed from the top...

-Curt

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 04:21:35 PM EST, Allan Streib 
 wrote:  

 My old Ford Focus is similar, the filter sticks out the side of the engine 
(which faces the back of the car), you can't really reach it from above so you 
have to crawl under and weave your arm around the axle to get at it. And of 
course oil goes everywhere when you start to unscrew it.

The Nissan Frontier isn't quite so bad, the filter is easy to get to from 
underneath EXCEPT you have to remove the splash pan first. You don't spill a 
lot of oil removing it, but you do lose an ounce or two.

The Volvo uses a cartridge filter, the canister opens at the top, so it's 
pretty clean. A topisder extractor would be useful on that car, because 
otherwise you also need to remove a splash pan to get at the oil drain plug.

Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

My Jetta is the worst for the filter because it's in front of the engine 
(transverse I4) mounted upside down. So you have to get under the car to remove 
the filter anyway, might as well pull the drain plug.

On an '80s vintage Mercedes you could do it all from the top...

-Curt

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 03:27:29 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:

For me, the messiest part of an oil change is dealing with the filter, and the 
extractor doesn't help you there. Draining the oil into a pan doesn't seem that 
big a deal to me, especially since you might need a pan anyway to catch the oil 
from the filter (depending on the vehicle and its filter configuration).

Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 2:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you 
> have one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that 
> matter!)
>
> After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re 
> short-lived, I went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six 
> gallon oil extractor (I already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on 
> my credit report for the hard inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to 
> get 10% off my purchase, bringing the price down to around $160 before 
> taxes. And before anyone complains about the price, I’ve spent more 
> than that total for all my previous oil sucking machinery. I only wish 
> I could have bought one of these years ago.
>
> Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly 
> changed the oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.
>
> I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance 
> charge (they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m 
> wondering if I would have done better to just join the “Insider’s 
> Track” club?
>
> -D
>
>
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[MBZ] OT: Pandemic cravings

Take this surprisingly challenging quiz.

*Pandemic cravings…*The pandemic changed the way we eat – and the way we
get our food. The food delivery industry in the U.S. doubled during the
pandemic, reported Kabir Ahuja, Vishwa Chandra, Victoria Lord, and Curtis
Peens of McKinsey & Company.11

One food delivery service recently published the 2021 Cravings Report*.*12 It’s
chock-full of interesting tidbits about what we like to eat and how we
treat the people who deliver our food. Learn more by taking this brief quiz.

1. What was the top-selling delivered grocery item in 2021?

a. Ground beef

b. Bananas

c. Cream cheese

d. Potatoes

2. Which of these states has some of the politest customers in the country?

a. Montana

b. Mississippi

c. New York

d. Missouri

3. Which of these states is *not* known for its picky eaters?

a. Georgia

b. Illinois

c. Connecticut

d. South Dakota

4. What was the most popular cuisine ordered for delivery in 2021?

a. Thai

b. Italian

c. Mexican

d. Sushi

5. Which of these was the most popular item ordered for delivery?

a. California roll

b. Pizza

c. French fries

d. Pad Thai

*Weekly Focus – Think About It *

“You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to
eat six.”13

*—Yogi Berra, baseball player, manager, and coach *

11
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ordering-in-the-rapid-evolution-of-food-delivery

[1]2 https://www.uber.com/newsroom/the-2021-uber-eats-cravings-report/

[1]3 https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/food-quotes

*Answers: 1) b; 2) a; 3) d; 4) c; 5) c*
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Re: [MBZ] The rear badge says S600 however it is a S420

Poseur

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> On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/marengo-1994-mercedes-s420/7417181863.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

My old Ford Focus is similar, the filter sticks out the side of the engine 
(which faces the back of the car), you can't really reach it from above so you 
have to crawl under and weave your arm around the axle to get at it. And of 
course oil goes everywhere when you start to unscrew it.

The Nissan Frontier isn't quite so bad, the filter is easy to get to from 
underneath EXCEPT you have to remove the splash pan first. You don't spill a 
lot of oil removing it, but you do lose an ounce or two.

The Volvo uses a cartridge filter, the canister opens at the top, so it's 
pretty clean. A topisder extractor would be useful on that car, because 
otherwise you also need to remove a splash pan to get at the oil drain plug.

Allan


On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> My Jetta is the worst for the filter because it's in front of the engine 
> (transverse I4) mounted upside down. So you have to get under the car to 
> remove the filter anyway, might as well pull the drain plug.
> 
> On an '80s vintage Mercedes you could do it all from the top...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, December 6, 2021, 03:27:29 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> For me, the messiest part of an oil change is dealing with the filter, and 
> the extractor doesn't help you there. Draining the oil into a pan doesn't 
> seem that big a deal to me, especially since you might need a pan anyway to 
> catch the oil from the filter (depending on the vehicle and its filter 
> configuration).
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 2:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you 
> > have one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that 
> > matter!)
> >
> > After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re 
> > short-lived, I went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six 
> > gallon oil extractor (I already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on 
> > my credit report for the hard inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to 
> > get 10% off my purchase, bringing the price down to around $160 before 
> > taxes. And before anyone complains about the price, I’ve spent more 
> > than that total for all my previous oil sucking machinery. I only wish 
> > I could have bought one of these years ago.
> >
> > Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly 
> > changed the oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.
> >
> > I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance 
> > charge (they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m 
> > wondering if I would have done better to just join the “Insider’s 
> > Track” club?
> >
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[MBZ] The rear badge says S600 however it is a S420

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/marengo-1994-mercedes-s420/7417181863.html

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Re: [MBZ] Any Cadillac or Vito Corleone memorabilia collectors out there?

2021-12-06 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

Covers the bloodstains?

My grandfather had one of those in pearl grey.  Beautiful ride.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:23 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Classic example of how FB sucks.
>
> Notice the posting date?
>
> Beautiful car, interior is odd, never seen one with a red interior.
>
> -D
>
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> > This would be 2.5x more expensive on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

 My Jetta is the worst for the filter because it's in front of the engine 
(transverse I4) mounted upside down. So you have to get under the car to remove 
the filter anyway, might as well pull the drain plug.
On an '80s vintage Mercedes you could do it all from the top...
-Curt

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 03:27:29 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For me, the messiest part of an oil change is dealing with the filter, and the 
extractor doesn't help you there. Draining the oil into a pan doesn't seem that 
big a deal to me, especially since you might need a pan anyway to catch the oil 
from the filter (depending on the vehicle and its filter configuration).

Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 2:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you 
> have one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that 
> matter!)
>
> After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re 
> short-lived, I went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six 
> gallon oil extractor (I already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on 
> my credit report for the hard inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to 
> get 10% off my purchase, bringing the price down to around $160 before 
> taxes. And before anyone complains about the price, I’ve spent more 
> than that total for all my previous oil sucking machinery. I only wish 
> I could have bought one of these years ago.
>
> Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly 
> changed the oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.
>
> I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance 
> charge (they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m 
> wondering if I would have done better to just join the “Insider’s 
> Track” club?
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

We had a couple of suitcases in checked baggage. Not really room for them in 
the sleeper compartment.

Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> I've never had a case on a train where my luggage wasn't with me all the 
> time. One of my favorite parts of travel by train...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, December 6, 2021, 12:17:48 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I forgot to mention that not only was our train late arriving, but our 
> luggage was even more delayed because it stayed on the wrong half of the 
> train when they split it at one point. They did bring it to our hotel later, 
> at least.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 11:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > There’s a pool run by a bunch of members of a rail fan group I follow 
> > for Flagstaff that is based on how late the Amtrak trains are.
> >
> > It’s a rare day when either one is on time.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >>  Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled 
> >> with debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it 
> >> somehow manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually 
> >> make money. 
> >> The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
> >> Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
> >> A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that 
> >> they didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang 
> >> way. This would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ 
> >> mph like the trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared 
> >> and not welded so you slow down to 45mph max...
> >> Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can 
> >> leave from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For 
> >> Boston to NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except 
> >> for slow track in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an 
> >> hour at the airport heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and 
> >> at least an hour (and $50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus 
> >> train seats are bigger, way more comfortable, food and drink is available 
> >> or you can bring your own. You can get a 4 top if you're with friends. 
> >> Much more civilized than flying.
> >> It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
> >> -Curt
> >> 
> >> 
> >>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 08:26:35 PM EST, Allan Streib via 
> >> Mercedes  wrote:  
> >> 
> >> Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 
> >> 24 hours late to destination. Never again.
> >> 
> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
> >>> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
> >>> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
> >>> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
> >>> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
> >>> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
> >>> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
> >>> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
> >>> hours late.
> >>> 
> >>> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
> >>> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
> >>> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
> >>> of thousands of feet.
> >>> 
> >>> ---
> >>> clay
> >>> 
> >>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
> >>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
>  
>  Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the 
>  third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they 
>  gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular 
>  so they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about 
>  a 45 minute delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an 
>  airport where they had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

For me, the messiest part of an oil change is dealing with the filter, and the 
extractor doesn't help you there. Draining the oil into a pan doesn't seem that 
big a deal to me, especially since you might need a pan anyway to catch the oil 
from the filter (depending on the vehicle and its filter configuration).

Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 2:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you 
> have one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that 
> matter!)
>
> After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re 
> short-lived, I went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six 
> gallon oil extractor (I already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on 
> my credit report for the hard inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to 
> get 10% off my purchase, bringing the price down to around $160 before 
> taxes. And before anyone complains about the price, I’ve spent more 
> than that total for all my previous oil sucking machinery. I only wish 
> I could have bought one of these years ago.
>
> Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly 
> changed the oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.
>
> I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance 
> charge (they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m 
> wondering if I would have done better to just join the “Insider’s 
> Track” club?
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

2021-12-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Occasionally those do go on sale. I bought one a while back for around $100 or 
so before the pandemic and ensuing everything shortages. Inside track isn't 
bad, if you know that you will be using it over the next year or two. I suspect 
that you will use it, as you begin to spend more time in AZ and less time in FL.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: December 6, 2021 1:40 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you have 
one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that matter!)

After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re short-lived, I 
went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six gallon oil extractor (I 
already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on my credit report for the hard 
inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to get 10% off my purchase, bringing the 
price down to around $160 before taxes. And before anyone complains about the 
price, I’ve spent more than that total for all my previous oil sucking 
machinery. I only wish I could have bought one of these years ago.

Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly changed the 
oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.

I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance charge 
(they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m wondering if I would 
have done better to just join the “Insider’s Track” club?

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

 I've never had a case on a train where my luggage wasn't with me all the time. 
One of my favorite parts of travel by train...
-Curt

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 12:17:48 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I forgot to mention that not only was our train late arriving, but our luggage 
was even more delayed because it stayed on the wrong half of the train when 
they split it at one point. They did bring it to our hotel later, at least.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 11:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> There’s a pool run by a bunch of members of a rail fan group I follow 
> for Flagstaff that is based on how late the Amtrak trains are.
>
> It’s a rare day when either one is on time.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with 
>> debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow 
>> manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make 
>> money. 
>> The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
>> Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
>> A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that 
>> they didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang way. 
>> This would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ mph 
>> like the trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared and not 
>> welded so you slow down to 45mph max...
>> Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can leave 
>> from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For Boston to 
>> NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except for slow 
>> track in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an hour at 
>> the airport heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and at least 
>> an hour (and $50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus train seats are 
>> bigger, way more comfortable, food and drink is available or you can bring 
>> your own. You can get a 4 top if you're with friends. Much more civilized 
>> than flying.
>> It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>>    On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 08:26:35 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> wrote:  
>> 
>> Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
>> hours late to destination. Never again.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
>>> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
>>> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
>>> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
>>> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
>>> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
>>> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
>>> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
>>> hours late.
>>> 
>>> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
>>> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
>>> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
>>> of thousands of feet.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
>>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the 
 third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they 
 gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular 
 so they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 
 45 minute delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport 
 where they had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] Kiss your keyless car goodbye

 So long... 13 minutes to convey a 3 minute (at most) message...
-Curt

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 10:19:08 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 A long ad for a faraday cage carrying pouch

--FT

On 12/6/21 9:05 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Fob cloning explained.
>
> https://youtu.be/2tQVov0Ra8g?t=170
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[MBZ] OT - Harbor Fright

While I’m not a big fan of the place, it has value. Especially when you have 
one less than five minutes from the house (both houses, for that matter!)

After looking at the alternatives on Amazon and knowing they’re short-lived, I 
went to the HF in Flagstaff and bought my second six gallon oil extractor (I 
already have one in Tampa.) Despite the hit on my credit report for the hard 
inquiry, I opened a HF charge account to get 10% off my purchase, bringing the 
price down to around $160 before taxes. And before anyone complains about the 
price, I’ve spent more than that total for all my previous oil sucking 
machinery. I only wish I could have bought one of these years ago.

Got it home, unboxed it, set up the inlet connections and promptly changed the 
oil in the ML. Took a whopping 10 minutes, if that.

I’ll pay off their charge next month to avoid usury on the finance charge 
(they’re not stupid, of course) and call it good. Now I’m wondering if I would 
have done better to just join the “Insider’s Track” club?

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Any Cadillac or Vito Corleone memorabilia collectors out there?

Classic example of how FB sucks.

Notice the posting date?

Beautiful car, interior is odd, never seen one with a red interior.

-D

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> This would be 2.5x more expensive on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD needs RR brake caliper

That's always the debate I have. FLAPS parts are cheap and have good 
warranties, and I've never had much hassle exchanging parts, but it's a PITA to 
install two or three until you finally get a good one. That happened to me with 
a brake master cylinder.

I've had pretty good luck with parts at NAPA but they tend to cost a bit more. 
I do notice that most of the indy shops use NAPA for parts though, so that says 
something (they want to minimize warranty re-repairs).

OEM is always best. Try FCPEuro? I also don't think you should mix brands of 
calipers on left/right sides. If you have ATE calipers, don't replace just one 
side with a Bendix.

Allan

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> Apparently this part is not interchangeable with a 300D or 300CD.  My indy
> tech says to avoid Cardone and other brands of rebuilt calipers sold by
> Autozone or Advanced Auto as they give trouble.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD needs RR brake caliper

Got a link?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve put on AA rebuilds and have had no issues. Plus you can get 25% off
> the price
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Apparently this part is not interchangeable with a 300D or 300CD.  My
> indy
> > tech says to avoid Cardone and other brands of rebuilt calipers sold by
> > Autozone or Advanced Auto as they give trouble.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD needs RR brake caliper

I’ve put on AA rebuilds and have had no issues. Plus you can get 25% off the 
price 

--FT
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> On Dec 6, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Apparently this part is not interchangeable with a 300D or 300CD.  My indy
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Re: [MBZ] KC135 Trivia Was RE: OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

> With care, the KC boom could tow an unpowered fighter, done several times in 
> SEA.

And do what with it?  Can you land coupled?  Unpowered jet flies like a rock.
Drag it to a safer place to punch out?

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Re: [MBZ] Because you can never have enough moose

> "They're dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle. Why would I want 
> anything with a mind of its own bobbing about between my legs?"

Clever line, but not, I think, 'according to Doyle'.

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[MBZ] W123 300TD needs RR brake caliper

Apparently this part is not interchangeable with a 300D or 300CD.  My indy
tech says to avoid Cardone and other brands of rebuilt calipers sold by
Autozone or Advanced Auto as they give trouble.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] front right dry shaft broken - 2013 E250 - $5,200

> How much does a new dry shaft cost? And why would it be broken?

Well duh, obviously it got wet.  (Don't drive them after midnight, either.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Home HVAC question

Your third wire is either broken, or not connected correctly.
Thermostat wire is usually non-stranded, so it doesn't take
manhandling very much before it can break.

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Re: [MBZ] Any Cadillac or Vito Corleone memorabilia collectors out there?

2021-12-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


But what a beast of a car.

Randy

On 06/12/2021 11:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

That’s not a bad price.

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This would be 2.5x more expensive on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] This is a restoration in progress so price will go up as work is completed. 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $5, 500

"Will get on a trailer under own power."  Huh??

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It's a TD
>
> 102k original miles. Runs, drives, stops. Some rust but not bad (see pics).
>
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Re: [MBZ] Any Cadillac or Vito Corleone memorabilia collectors out there?

That’s not a bad price. 

--FT
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> On Dec 6, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> This would be 2.5x more expensive on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

3-4 years ago I did a bike ride down to Savannah. Stayed the night with my 
cousin then figured I would ride the train back to charleston then bike to 
where my truck was parked, which would have been like 15-20 miles but that was 
ok. She dropped me at the train station, which was nice. Once the staffers got 
done yow-yowing in back and one came to the counter I asked for a ticket and 
she said it was full. Really. Then there was this whole conversation about my 
bike and whoever loaded bags was not there, or something about no room to put 
it in the bag queue, something stupid. It’s a 12lb bike so not like it needs a 
lot of muscle to deal with it. Anyway I bailed on the idea. 

There was a car rental place right next to the station so I went there, got a 
car for a bit more than the train ticket cost, drove back to an office about a 
mile from where my truck was, a guy ran me over there, then I drove on home, 
probably got there before the train would have arrived. No hassle no drama no 
gummint “workers” to deal with. 

I was kinda looking forward to the train ride as I had heard it was very pretty 
going along the coastal marshes and all. Oh well. 

--FT
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> On Dec 6, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with 
> debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow 
> manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make 
> money. 
> The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
> Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
> A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that they 
> didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang way. This 
> would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ mph like the 
> trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared and not welded so 
> you slow down to 45mph max...
> Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can leave 
> from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For Boston to 
> NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except for slow track 
> in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an hour at the 
> airport heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and at least an 
> hour (and $50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus train seats are 
> bigger, way more comfortable, food and drink is available or you can bring 
> your own. You can get a 4 top if you're with friends. Much more civilized 
> than flying.
> It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 08:26:35 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
> hours late to destination. Never again.
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
>> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
>> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
>> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
>> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
>> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
>> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
>> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
>> hours late.
>> 
>> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
>> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
>> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
>> of thousands of feet.
>> 
>> ---
>> clay
>> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the 
>>> third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they 
>>> gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so 
>>> they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 
>>> minute delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where 
>>> they had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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This would be 2.5x more expensive on BAT.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

I forgot to mention that not only was our train late arriving, but our luggage 
was even more delayed because it stayed on the wrong half of the train when 
they split it at one point. They did bring it to our hotel later, at least.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, at 11:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> There’s a pool run by a bunch of members of a rail fan group I follow 
> for Flagstaff that is based on how late the Amtrak trains are.
>
> It’s a rare day when either one is on time.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with 
>> debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow 
>> manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make 
>> money. 
>> The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
>> Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
>> A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that 
>> they didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang way. 
>> This would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ mph 
>> like the trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared and not 
>> welded so you slow down to 45mph max...
>> Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can leave 
>> from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For Boston to 
>> NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except for slow 
>> track in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an hour at 
>> the airport heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and at least 
>> an hour (and $50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus train seats are 
>> bigger, way more comfortable, food and drink is available or you can bring 
>> your own. You can get a 4 top if you're with friends. Much more civilized 
>> than flying.
>> It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 08:26:35 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
>> hours late to destination. Never again.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
>>> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
>>> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
>>> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
>>> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
>>> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
>>> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
>>> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
>>> hours late.
>>> 
>>> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
>>> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
>>> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
>>> of thousands of feet.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
>>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the 
 third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they 
 gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular 
 so they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 
 45 minute delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport 
 where they had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

Also makes them a PITA to clean.

-D

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  I hate that fridges seem to all have the condenser underneath these days. 
> Logically it's a really stupid location and in most cases results in needing 
> a fan.
> I *think* our freezer uses the top to radiate heat, at least the top of it 
> gets really warm...
> -Curt
> 
>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 10:23:08 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
> straight out the back and through the wall.
> 
> Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
> panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
> noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The 
> thing is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy 
> to get it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the 
> motor bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, 
> then cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently 
> for now, we'll see how long it lasts.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>> 
>>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>>> year.
 
 For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>>> they just gotta eat it...
 
 The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>>> nests.
 
 -Curt
 
 On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>>> some traps, but caught nothing.
 
 Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
 
 Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>>> the woods).
 
 Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>>> started getting noisy.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

There’s a pool run by a bunch of members of a rail fan group I follow for 
Flagstaff that is based on how late the Amtrak trains are.

It’s a rare day when either one is on time.

-D

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with 
> debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow 
> manages to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make 
> money. 
> The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
> Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
> A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that they 
> didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang way. This 
> would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ mph like the 
> trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared and not welded so 
> you slow down to 45mph max...
> Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can leave 
> from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For Boston to 
> NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except for slow track 
> in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an hour at the 
> airport heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and at least an 
> hour (and $50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus train seats are 
> bigger, way more comfortable, food and drink is available or you can bring 
> your own. You can get a 4 top if you're with friends. Much more civilized 
> than flying.
> It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 08:26:35 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
> hours late to destination. Never again.
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
>> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
>> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
>> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
>> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
>> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
>> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
>> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
>> hours late.
>> 
>> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
>> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
>> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
>> of thousands of feet.
>> 
>> ---
>> clay
>> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the 
>>> third or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they 
>>> gave up and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so 
>>> they just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 
>>> minute delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where 
>>> they had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

 I hate that fridges seem to all have the condenser underneath these days. 
Logically it's a really stupid location and in most cases results in needing a 
fan.
I *think* our freezer uses the top to radiate heat, at least the top of it gets 
really warm...
-Curt

On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 10:23:08 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>
>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> >
>> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>> year.
>> >
>> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>> they just gotta eat it...
>> >
>> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>> nests.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>> some traps, but caught nothing.
>> >
>> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
>> >
>> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>> the woods).
>> >
>> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>> started getting noisy.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

 Amtrak is built on the finest govt bureaucracy money can buy. Saddled with 
debt from sources so far unrelated it'll make your head spin it somehow manages 
to muddle on being "funded" by 2 or 3 routes that actually make money. 
The DownEaster: Portland, Maine to Boston, 
Acela Express: Boston to NYC to DC
A REAL investment in Amtrak would involve actually buying tracks so that they 
didn't need to wait for slow freight trains to get out of the dang way. This 
would also allow continuously welded rail so you can run at 150+ mph like the 
trains do from Boston to CT. After CT the rails are shared and not welded so 
you slow down to 45mph max...
Real high speed rail would cut down on air traffic because trains can leave 
from inside the city and deliver you to a point inside a city. For Boston to 
NYC for instance the train takes 3 hours (should take 2 except for slow track 
in CT), an airplane takes 20 minutes but then you've got an hour at the airport 
heading out and half an hour coming in (at least) and at least an hour (and 
$50) to cab from the airport into the city.Plus train seats are bigger, way 
more comfortable, food and drink is available or you can bring your own. You 
can get a 4 top if you're with friends. Much more civilized than flying.
It irritates me how badly the US has bungled rail travel...
-Curt


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 Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
hours late to destination. Never again.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
> hours late.
>
> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
> of thousands of feet.
>
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> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
>
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the third 
>> or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they gave up 
>> and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so they 
>> just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 minute 
>> delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where they 
>> had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] Kiss your keyless car goodbye

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On 2021-12-06 10:18, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

A long ad for a faraday cage carrying pouch


You know what's more convenient than sticking your fob in a faraday 
purse every time you get out of the car?
Mechanical keys. Pull it out of the ignition and drop it in your pants 
pocket.


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A long ad for a faraday cage carrying pouch

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On 12/6/21 9:05 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

Fob cloning explained.

https://youtu.be/2tQVov0Ra8g?t=170

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[MBZ] It's in concourse excellent condition with 94K miles the Mercedes has no issues 1972 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 450 Roadster 2D, $16, 900


I see some overspray, looks like a new paint job

There is no issues , no funny noises.

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[MBZ] If don’t please don’t waste my,Time and your. Thanks for looking yes  low ball 2007 Mercedes-Benz GL-Class GL 320 CDI Sport Utility 4D,$7,500


Driven 494,863 miles

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[MBZ] This looks really nice Green/tan -- 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D, $5, 100


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[MBZ] everything works but the engine knocks. 2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, $1, 600


Another munched 350 engine

Driven 133,700 miles

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[MBZ] This is a restoration in progress so price will go up as work is completed. 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $5, 500


It's a TD

102k original miles. Runs, drives, stops. Some rust but not bad (see pics).

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[MBZ] Kiss your keyless car goodbye

2021-12-06 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes


Fob cloning explained.

https://youtu.be/2tQVov0Ra8g?t=170

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Re: [MBZ] front right dry shaft broken - 2013 E250 - $5,200