Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, W126 rebuild (Trampas)
If the pics would apply to the tranny in my 83 300TD I would love to see them. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, W126 rebuild (Trampas) I would be interested in seeing the pics too. thanks, Ed 300E On 18/06/07, Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you please email me all the pictures you have of the trans rebuild. Thanks roger Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, W126 rebuild Note I took lots of pictures of the transmission rebuild if anyone is interested. Trampas 1987 420SEL 1991 560SEL 1985 300SD 1984 500SEL with OM617 1990 F250 with 7.5L gasser 1960 300d (still in old barn) _ Picture this – share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Such mechanism does exist.Google it and see for yourself. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D and how does this help them for spot inspection? if you need more money in the projects just so badly, i'd have no opposition to this as long as a simple mechanism actually exists. (i suspect you just made this up and don't really know any better than i do if any such mechanism exists. it would not surprise me if no mechanism existed or any mechanism would require a team of accountants and $72k in equipment to implement). i'd still be inclined to give them a pass. not only give them a pass, but give them some sort of positive recognition for their contributions. On 6/12/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
I think small dual sport bikes are about the best learners. They handle very well, very nimble and forgiving of a new riders common mistakes. That and if you have a place you can ride away from traffic until you feel comfortable. I know it's a terrible thought but the Chinese 200cc 4 strokers on E-bay for a grand or so brand new are a remarkable good deal for a good learner. Who cares if you beat it up learning..Sell it to a kid down the road when you are done with it for a trail bike for a small loss and spend your money on a nicer bike of whatever style you prefer. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate to a real bike. Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. So then the argument is I have to shift too much which is naturally BS. Anyway what I'm getting at is if your ego doesn't need a bigger bike good deals can be had on smaller ones. I paid $750 for my wife's 454. -Curt Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:01:04 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond wrote: My wife's bike is an '89 LTD 454 and its a hoot. You've got to remember, a late 70's-early 80's 450 could do the 1/4 mile in the low 14s, slightly quicker than a 911SC or a 500E. A newer 250, like a 250 Ninja, should be a good performer too. I took a test drive on a '81 GS450 around '84 or '85 when dealers were swimming in old inventory (they wanted $11xx for it brand new). When I shifted into 4th, not long after I took off, I looked down and the speedo was swinging past 90mph. My mid-70's CB200 was a bit marginal, even with a 125lb rider, top speed was 80 in neutral conditions, but a stiff headwind or hill could knock it down under 70. I would not be happy with a 16hp motorcycle today. I'd say that an old 350-500cc would make a fine starter bike, or maybe a 600 or 650 BMW. Wish I'd bought a Honda FT500 Ascot back in '86 when it was offered to me for $400. Quick enough and ~60mpg. If looking at more recent bikes, find out how fast a 250 is these days, it might be plenty and get 70+mpg. There's a low mile 250 Ninja near me, but they want $2600 for it. (a price I balked at in 1986 when it was on a new 500 Interceptor) If I ever find a nice R65LS BMW for $1500, I'll jump on it. Mitch. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies
MAN! I wish those auctions were on this side of the country..They always have such cool stuff. Always wanted a mini helicopterI'd get myself in a world of shit with one of those...;) Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mid month goodies Just might be a few things for the auto collector at this auction. Doubt Kaleb will be headed here, but he could bid live online and see if he can snag some goodies. I would gladly deliver. http://www.murphyauctions.net/kenmore07jun.html 2003 CHEV 3500 12' flatbed, V8, auto, p/s, p/b, /ac 1995 ISUZU NPR tow truck, 4 cyl diesel, auto, VULCAN 881 hoist 1967 FREIGHTLINER HOLMES 600 twin line C/O wrecker, DETROIT diesel, 4/2, ps, a/b 1996 HARLEY DAVIDSON ROAD KING motorcycle, fuel injected v-twin, 5 spd 1991 HARLEY DAVIDSON Electraglide motorcycle 1979 HONDA GOLDWING motorcycle, 4 cyl, 5 spd Something for LT Don? REVOLUTION Mini 500 helicopter, ROTAX engine, 0045 hrs, s/n: 0478, w/ TRITON XT-10-101 trailer -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies
Even if it doesn't it's a whole heck of a lot smarter than buying a new mower... That's the way things are supposed to be done.Don't just keep fixing the switch or jerry rig it with others.Figure out what is burning up the switch and solve the whole deal... Why can't more Americans see this? Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: I think this qualifies My grandmother has an old Crapsman RER lawnmower. For the last few years the keyswitch wouldn't start the mower, it'd shut it off but not start it. One of my uncles wired up a series of different switches for starting but since the switch has to carry full voltage for starting they don't last long. So this year when yet another switch failed I had a look at the solenoid. Took it out and shook it and could hear the contacts moving around. It turns out the trigger was just dirty. I cleaned it up and put it all back in and it works just fine thus saving the family the price of a new lawnmower. I *think* this qualifies as a Jim Cathy repair -Curt - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies
Gee, thanks Craig. Spoiled the heck out of that fantasy. Maybe a glider would be good;) Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mid month goodies O Something for LT Don? REVOLUTION Mini 500 helicopter, ROTAX engine, 0045 hrs, s/n: 0478, w/ TRITON XT-10-101 trailer As in, http://www.geocities.com/chopperjoker/mini500.htm Crash reports at http://www.provide.net/~pratt1/ambuilt/helicopter.htm Frequently Asked Questions about Amateur-Built Aircraft at http://web.archive.org/web/20010202153500/www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.htm Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax
Agreed there Tom..Cars, and motor vehicles of any sort are more of a pain in the tush to deal with for the seller than they are worth on E-bay. Little stuff, parts and the like, while not quite ridiculously easy, is a breeze in comparison. How do you like the store format? I am ashamed to say I am not even close to organized enough to maintain a large inventory of things so I stick with the auction format. List it as I get it and go from there. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not been turds? In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different? Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally I refuse to list it on eBay. Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller (http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales) and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will generate. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax That's logical, but: I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages to keep things relatively honest. I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway: The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, no matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a fearful thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and services for fear of a tarnished reputation. The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of negative feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new identity. Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start at zero again for the new seller. So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, then I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase. Brian Mitch wrote: There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay. 1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles away. 2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it. Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon
HOORAY FOR SHOE GOO! I use Seal-All for that type of stuff, or near anything that needs stuck or sealed actually. WOrks like Shoe Goo to hold the kids shoes together.;) Nice fix Jim. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon As some may remember I was having intermittent fuse-blowing on this car (83 300D) when shifting into reverse. A trip through the rear wiring netted nothing, so I disassembled the neutral safety switch. Nothing overtly wrong, but I did think that one of the spring leaves seemed to have a bit much sideways flex in it so I potted its base in Shoe Goo and reinstalled it after it had dried. I had wondered if it could move sideways enough to contact the case. That seems to have done it, there have been no blown fuses since then. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy
Sounds like an awful lot of good reasons to not buy that car to me and I haven't even seen it. Mike - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody have any thoughts about why I shouldn't jump on this one? (other than the fact that it's NOT a diesel...) Royce Engler '85 300TD 298K Uh, because you could buy Don Snook's 300SEL with less than half the miles for less? My indy drives a 420. He's got a couple hundred thousand on his, and said its starting to burn oil. Because the block is aluminum, they can't be bored. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] premixed?
Better pay attention next time you buy anti-freeze..There's like 9 different jugs at Wally Land and only a couple are full strengthVery deceptive marketing as the 50/50 appears cheaper at a glance. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] premixed? Proper mixture is 50:50 whether you mix it or it's premixed. Last time I bought it from the MB dealer (Feb 06) it was concentrated and needed to be mixed with H2O. I have never, ever, seen premixed antifreeze and water. Why in the world would anyone buy water? RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123
Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep Mike Canfield wrote: Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers
I've often thought of carrying my Nagant on my motorcycle as well but figured some hotshot rookie cop would want to give me a bunch of shit over it. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers (And no, I am not in support of bicyclists arrogantly taking up too much space in the roadway - they do not have the right to do so). If there is not room to safely share the lane, the cyclist may and should ride far enough to the left to force passing traffic to wait until it is safe to change lanes to pass. It's not arrogance. Last time I checked here, a bicycle _is_ a car so far as the law is concerned. You treat them like such, and you ride them like such. And it stinks, last time I was forced to (single, and having my truck worked on at at shop that wasn't particularly close to work) ride on city streets some asshole in a new Hummer (pre-H2) nearly clipped me as he roared past me on the left in the turn lane. (I was preparing to make my turn to the left.) Totally a ticketable offense, but where's a cop when you need him? Next time I am forced to ride on city streets I think it would be very prudent to sling my Garand across my back. I'd leave the clip at home. The first time! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123
But your question asks about it making economic sense...I am sure it makes none at all. I doubt that man is similar to very many others in his country so he would seem to me to be a poor example of that countries culture. Just a man that loves his car.Love makes no sense at all. Didn't mean to sound like I was snapping at you. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 It's about the culture of that country, not money. I was mererly curious. On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep Mike Canfield wrote: Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E
Really? They last that long? H. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E have sufficient anti-corrosive reserve for use in MB engines, or for the 5 year life expected of Dex-Cool. The 5-year expected life for Death Cool is for the _engine_, not the coolant. A common misconception! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers
You do have a very good point there... Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers I've often thought of carrying my Nagant on my motorcycle as well but figured some hotshot rookie cop would want to give me a bunch of shit over it. I figured a short polite conversation with them about it would probably swing them completely to your side, once they'd had a minute or two to think about it. They scrape up way too many bike riders. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage
Very sorry for your loss JohnI don't even know what to say. Best wishes, Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road bicycling... She was riding home from work in Huntsville (she co-ops there, I'm in Starkville at the moment) with a friend. Its a 15 mile ride into work and there have been a group of people doing it for about three years now without incident. They take a bunch of winding two lane roads that avoid as many of the major intersections and traffic as possible. They all wear helmets. They were riding basically on the white line to let the few cars they did see have plenty of room. So they did everything right to be good safe bicyclists and avoid getting in a wreck. Accidents still happen though because for some reason (hitting the tire of the guy in front, hitting a rock in the road or something) Jenn lost control of her bike and veered into oncoming traffic. The car did her absolute best to avoid Jenn... it was the 4th car they had seen on their 8 or so miles on the road. No matter how safe you try to make things accidents still happen. Just do the best that you can and what your comfortable with. http://www.bradfordokeefe.com/obituaries/view_obit.php?id=2131 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion
Better believe those claims are accurate...That's Gale Banks',of Banks turbo fame, personal ride. Mike - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion Anybody else see Pimp My Ride on Sunday night? It was a special Earth Day show. The featured car was a '65 Impala with a souped-up Duramax V-8 and Allison tranny, running on biodiesel. It looked like extensive modifications to the firewall were necessary to fit the drivetrain in, along with a big power bulge in the hood to cover it up. Claimed 800 hp, 1400 lb-ft, and 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. The car was shown smoking a late-model Lamborghini of some sort at the drag strip. Fun stuff. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion
Hmph, a 240D with a Farenheit temp guage? I've never seen one of those. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] more cooling discussion First a confession- my 240D has the green stuff in it from a PO and I need to get it out of there and will do so in the next few weeks, when I get time. I have had this car 4 ½ years-some PO pulled out aux fan, part of AC system, etc. For the first 3 ½ years it almost never ran above 175-180F, except on an Eyetalian tune up on I 95 on a hot summer day. Last summer I noticed that it would warm up under load even at ambient temps of 40F and would go up to about the 212-horizontal line. Never went above it and always came back down with less demand in engine. So apart from changing the evil green stuff to G-05, what is the next most likely cause of this symptom? Since it is still a minor problem, I am thinking of just trying this first because I no longer drive this car as my 300-500 miles a week commuter car. I do know about cooling systems in other cars, such as belts, thermostat, etc. So what should I do first, either after or in conjunction with the refill? TIA Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion
Guess I really never paid any attention to any older than my 82. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion Well it's an older one-my brother's 78 has one too. Maybe they changed to Celsius in 81 when they went to the ACC system? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion Hmph, a 240D with a Farenheit temp guage? I've never seen one of those. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] more cooling discussion First a confession- my 240D has the green stuff in it from a PO and I need to get it out of there and will do so in the next few weeks, when I get time. I have had this car 4 ½ years-some PO pulled out aux fan, part of AC system, etc. For the first 3 ½ years it almost never ran above 175-180F, except on an Eyetalian tune up on I 95 on a hot summer day. Last summer I noticed that it would warm up under load even at ambient temps of 40F and would go up to about the 212-horizontal line. Never went above it and always came back down with less demand in engine. So apart from changing the evil green stuff to G-05, what is the next most likely cause of this symptom? Since it is still a minor problem, I am thinking of just trying this first because I no longer drive this car as my 300-500 miles a week commuter car. I do know about cooling systems in other cars, such as belts, thermostat, etc. So what should I do first, either after or in conjunction with the refill? TIA Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123
A good definition for eccentricity maybe??? People surely do some strange things. One of my friends is a brilliant Chevrolet engine builder...I've seen hi 11 second cars come out of his junkyard with used head gaskets and twisted wires with no tape or anything.and a custom, racing 5 gallon bucket seat..There is no explaining it. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Part of my problem is that the scale of the repair undertaking seems overwhelming in consideration of the desirability (or lack thereof) for that particular model. That plus the totally bizarre use of stacked bricks to support the vehicle. Reminds me of a William Steig cartoon from the New Yorker... On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your question asks about it making economic sense...I am sure it makes none at all. I doubt that man is similar to very many others in his country so he would seem to me to be a poor example of that countries culture. Just a man that loves his car.Love makes no sense at all. Didn't mean to sound like I was snapping at you. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 It's about the culture of that country, not money. I was mererly curious. On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep Mike Canfield wrote: Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123
Oh, and the same guy I mentioned in the last post is in the midst of building a 4 wheel drive Beetle with a Sidekick chassis...I've seen it. It is going to work. It's scary as can be, but fundamentally it will work. He is doing it in the woods, under a tree, with a cutting torch and a welder.He is actually making the firewall and such from the Sidekick into part of the Beetle body. It will look near factory built when he is done. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Part of my problem is that the scale of the repair undertaking seems overwhelming in consideration of the desirability (or lack thereof) for that particular model. That plus the totally bizarre use of stacked bricks to support the vehicle. Reminds me of a William Steig cartoon from the New Yorker... On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your question asks about it making economic sense...I am sure it makes none at all. I doubt that man is similar to very many others in his country so he would seem to me to be a poor example of that countries culture. Just a man that loves his car.Love makes no sense at all. Didn't mean to sound like I was snapping at you. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 It's about the culture of that country, not money. I was mererly curious. On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep Mike Canfield wrote: Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage
Craig, What's your point? If you crash a motorcycle into a brick wall you will likely die...Duh. Every time someone comes up with something that can save some energy the first response is..AND THE ANSWER IS But it's small and you might get hurt if you crash it! No, it's not your Benz. It's not intended to be and was used simply as an example of what can be done. THere are much more efficient Li-Ion battery packs that would far surpass the lead-acid G-whizz so it's all about the idea. Not wether or not a little car is safe. DO you ride a motorcycle? Bettin' the G-Whizz has better crash scores...Oh wait, they don't even test bikes for that do they? Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:19:58 -0400 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A small commuter car, the G-Wiz has been available in the UK for some 3 years now, and it is gainig popularity in London, mainly because it is excempt the £8 daily congestion charge, and parking is free at many locations in central London. http://www.goingreen.co.uk/store/ It has a maximum range of 48 miles at urban city speeds, and has a battery pack of approximately 10kWh. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REVA, The UK Department for Transport found serious safety concerns after crashing a G-Wiz at 35mph into a deformable barrier on April 24, 2007 [6], which is the normal test for cars. Likewise, a test commissioned by Top Gear magazine that followed the Euro NCAP crash test specifications found that the occupants would suffer serious or life-threatening injuries in a 64km/h crash.[7]. The G-wiz is presently exempt from most crash test rules, because its size allows it to be classed as a quadricycle instead of a car. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123
Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 hm tom savage wrote: I don't know if this has already been posted here or not, but it's always worth another look. http://www.5w5.com/mercedes/viewforum.php?f=1sid=4e369b5d5ff4e9ce5d625df71a1d2cbdmforum=mercedes There's a special place in heaven for this guy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E
While we are on the subject of antifreeze what's the differnece between the MBZ antifreeze and the green stuff? Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E 1) did I screw up the ratio in MB coolant and water? Yes. Antifreeze is nowhere near as good at removing heat as is water. Pure water has, however, its own problems! The 50/50 mix is optimum, deviation either way buys various problems. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage
Agreed. I ride my bike alot. Prefer to keep to seasonal back roads as there are less idiots intent on running you down. In town or on the highway I ride like every car I encounter doesn't even know I am there..Maybe they don't. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Absolutely understandable. I always question whether I'm getting paranoid, but it seems drivers are getting worse by the month. Red light running and cel phone talking in particular. Often when I think someone is intentionally driving agressively toward me, I find a little girl yapping on a cel happily. So that's surely the one huge downside to bike riding. Brian On 5/28/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sincerely wish that I could safely ride a bike around here, but with high speed SUV traffic on narrow, shoulder-free roads, it's asking for severe injury or death. Likewise it would not bother me at all to walk a couple miles to the train or bus stop to take one of them to work, beats the hell out of driving all the time. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milky ATF
Sounds like what my Army truck does...It has a leak in the dash that lets rainwater into the boot around the shifter if it's parked just right...Could you have something similar going on? Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] Milky ATF I am sort of scratching my head here. I just changed the ATF in Gump, a 220D manual. What came out was nasty, milky rusted looking Mobil 1 ATF. She had less than 30k on the fluid, I just was feeling something was not right, so I change it. There is no obvious coolant hoses going into the transmission, and I do not think there is any transmission parts going near the radiator. Checked the oil and coolant and no water in one or oil in the other. ATF did not smell bad or burnt. WTF is the meaning of milky trans fluid in this application? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D
I'd look at the contacts in the 4 way flasher switch in the center console. My 83 TD is touchy and my 240D was even worse. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D I examined all the fuses and replaced the ones listed for these items but it didn't help. Any ideas?? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D
Yeah, that's what I meant.Always worked for me. Keep in mind that if there is anything up under that 4 way switch that won't allow it turn ALL the way off it won't let the turn signals work. I don't know if it cuts power to them or what. Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:48:53 -0400 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd look at the contacts in the 4 way flasher switch in the center console. You can try the simple approach: just actuate the switch about a million times, making sure to move it to the off position solidly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping
90 days? Is that because it is EXTREMELY precise or cheap in quality? If you want one to last your lifetime using it every day and have a fancy name go buy a Snap On. If you want one that will do the same job occasionally for a ton less buy a Craftsman click type. They are plenty accurate for anything automotive I have ever seen. Mike - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping You're saying that nothing special is needed to torque a head down? Just a 1/2 Craftsman will do? I really liked the Armstrong's...they're a full lifetime warranty with 90 days on the calibration. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My brother has used his Snap-on click type for several decades. Quite reliable, easy to use, and rather pricey. You only need a cheapie for the SDL, though -- even torque to 35 ft/lbs, then tighten a quarter turn twice. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D
I like the plastic bagKeeps the Jesus springs from doing their thing ay? Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D Hazard switch usually is the cause of failure here. They can be cleaned up, but you really have to take them apart in a plastic bag and take great care not to break them. Clean the contacts and you should be good as new clay On May 26, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: I'd look at the contacts in the 4 way flasher switch in the center console. My 83 TD is touchy and my 240D was even worse. Mike - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] No turn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D I examined all the fuses and replaced the ones listed for these items but it didn't help. Any ideas?? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milky ATF
THere has to be a vant somewhere ot the tranny would blow oil out of the seals as the fluid gets hot an expands. If it is plugged there is no way for the heat to expell the normally occuring moisture from condensation. Your relatively short trips may not get the fluid hot enough for either to happen. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Milky ATF an auto trans has a bleed hole out the top to expel excess fluid or equalize pressure. Gump, with manual has a closed system to the best of my knowledge and visuals exam. Both her drain and fill holes were sealed well prior to my attempts to open earlier today. clay On May 26, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I think the list mom had some sort of similar experience a few months back and attributed it to rainwater getting in the tranny via some vent or loose fitting or something like that. --R Redghost wrote: I am sort of scratching my head here. I just changed the ATF in Gump, a 220D manual. What came out was nasty, milky rusted looking Mobil 1 ATF. She had less than 30k on the fluid, I just was feeling something was not right, so I change it. There is no obvious coolant hoses going into the transmission, and I do not think there is any transmission parts going near the radiator. Checked the oil and coolant and no water in one or oil in the other. ATF did not smell bad or burnt. WTF is the meaning of milky trans fluid in this application? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping
Interesting to hear. I wonder who actually makes the one Sears sells as a Craftsman Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping Mike Canfield wrote: 90 days? Is that because it is EXTREMELY precise or cheap in quality? If you want one to last your lifetime using it every day and have a fancy name go buy a Snap On. Really? I knew a guy who worked in a factory tool crib, calibrating torque wrenches was one of his duties. He reported (circa 1998) that 10-20% of the Snap-Ons were throwaways that he could not get to read within 4% across the scale when they were new in box, and the good ones did not hold up like Proto. I wish I'd bought more Harbor Freight torque wrenches back then. At the time, he claimed he could tune the average HF wrench to 1-2% across the range, but didn't think they would hold up in a full time factory situation. Lately, I've seen too many HF products that seem to be way lower in fit/finish than the ones I bought 10-20 years ago (same part number), so now I wonder about their torque wrenches too. My oldest Harbor Freight dial caliper checks out to within 1/10,000th across the scale, wish I could say that about a brand new one. (but the newer ones I've played with are still well within 1/1000th everywhere, not bad for $10-15) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage
Read this: (CHP = Combined heat and power) This is from another board I am on..Very interesting proposal. Here's a possible proposal to keep the costs of suburban motoring down, whilst making use of renewable fuels and the energy efficiency available from a CHP system. The illustration is intended for suburban UK, but the model could be adjusted to apply to any suburban city. It basically combines your energy requirements for electricity, heating and suburban transport such that all three can be met using a single system that burns renewable fuel. It effectively offsets the heat energy wasted by an IC engine as a means of providing home heating, and uses an electric vehicle as a means of load balancing an otherwise poorly balanced CHP system. A small commuter car, the G-Wiz has been available in the UK for some 3 years now, and it is gainig popularity in London, mainly because it is excempt the £8 daily congestion charge, and parking is free at many locations in central London. http://www.goingreen.co.uk/store/ It has a maximum range of 48 miles at urban city speeds, and has a battery pack of approximately 10kWh. Whilst a small diesel engine genset can provide sufficient power for a typical household, the heat recovered is generally insufficient to meet the winter needs of the house. By incorporating the charging of a small commuter type electric vehicle, with a battery capacity of close to 10kWh, the total daily electrical load would be effectively doubled, thus doubling the available heat output. The battery of the EV would act as a load balancer for the CHP system at times of low domestic power demand. Assume that 10kWh is needed for the household per day and 10kWh is needed to recharge the EV. 20kWh of electicity will require 10 litres of fuel per day at a cost of £0.30 per litre. Fuel cost £3.00 20kWh of electricity at £0.10 kWh is worth £2.00 Recoverable heat from 10 litres of fuel = 50kWh heat worth £1.50 Mileage available form EV, up to 48 miles per day, off-setting diesel fuel costs of about £0.10 per mile. In principle, for someone commuting 20 miles each way, this technique could reduce heat power and transportation costs to about £3 per day. Additional top-up heat could be supplied by burning the fuel directly if needed. Any thoughts? Ken Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage There is no environmental gain from using chargeable hybrids -- you just replace using gasoline or diesel for the much higher carbon output coal fired power plant (with huge transmission loses, as they never build the plants were the power is used, they stick us poor midwesterners with them). The real solution is not to drive as much, and I've gotten into the habit of staying home on weekends. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Powder coating
THANKS RICH!!! I'll be checking that out right away! Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Powder coating Whoever was thinking about powder coating something (wheels?) -- Harbor Freight has a powder coating kit on sale for $50 on an email promo I got. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon?
It has been written that: On a bicycle, if the transmission is in a gear that's too high, it's not the transmission that suffers, it's the engine - your legs! I write: Exactly, until you input operator error. Seems that when the car doesn't go in the high gear the accelerator is depressed, the bigger the hill the harder it's pressed until the car MUST be shifted down. This causes undue torque and heat on the input that would not occur in a properly shifted tranny. If you could measure the difference in pressure on the crankset bearings of the bicycle in the wrong gears it would still be a fine example of what I am saying. A good example is the Suzuki Samurai's I mess with. Many folks put the VW diesels in them with various adapter kits bolted to the stock Samurai transmission. WHile they hold up fine in the lower gears no matter how rough you are on them the heat generated in the tranny from pulling hard on the highway in high gear is what kills the input and mainshaft bearings. The overdrive button is there for this purpose. Overdrive creates tons of heat in any tranny if it's pulling hard and that heat will destroy junk US made trannies. Mike
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
I have an electric oven already saved for the job.. Mike - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating A coworker used a kit he obtained fron Eastwood to powder coat 4 old ratty aluminum wheels. They came out VERY nice. Remember you have to have ability to bake at about 400 degrees. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, Fun to drive so far 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Actually over 24x 24 by a bit. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Mike Canfield wrote: I have an electric oven already saved for the job.. At least 16 wide by 16 deep? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT '78 VW Rabbit questions
A friend of mine has some of those old 1.5 Rabbits...I will see if he has a spare alternator around for you if you would like. Mike - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT '78 VW Rabbit questions Good source for parts is www.germanautoparts.com. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wouldn't recommend them for MB parts; despite they name they are really pretty much VW/Audi oriented. Or maybe Rusty -- don't know if he handles VW parts. Allan Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, we've had our hands on the free '78 Rabbit for a whole week now. This was the one that had been sitting for a couple years due to a bad alternator. The alternator has been removed which, I believe, could be the source of our problem. We installed new battery cables, but nothing is working in the car, no accessories, lights, turn signals, nada. It will run when gas is put into the throttle body, but it can only be started by jumping the solenoid. I'm guessing that the alt completes the circuits, and everything will work normally once the CORRECT alternator is installed and connected. This is a problem since the original one isn't around to match up to buy the correct one. These old, German cars just seem to call my name. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale
Will they be sending someone to inspect the car? Tell them to bring cash and do with the car as they like when they leave. I would be cautious of anyone wanting to buy a car here and pay to take it to Germany. Sounds unreallistic to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To make life more complicated, how would I assure a safe sales transaction with a buyer in Germany? Is it worth the effort? Wire transfer. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale
WOW! A very rare occurance I am sure.. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale Someone in the local MB club sold a fully restored red 280SE 3.5 coupe for $38K to a German collector a couple years ago... On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will they be sending someone to inspect the car? Tell them to bring cash and do with the car as they like when they leave. I would be cautious of anyone wanting to buy a car here and pay to take it to Germany. Sounds unreallistic to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To make life more complicated, how would I assure a safe sales transaction with a buyer in Germany? Is it worth the effort? Wire transfer. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating
Levi, Where I take my scrap(Champion's in Lodi) I am getting over $100 per ton for junk cars stuffed full of old appliances and suchIf you have alot and a reasonable way to haul it it's worthwhile. If not, like you said, just best to give it away for the convenience. Keep an eye out for catalytic converters and set them aside, they are worth very good money and can make a load of scrap pay pretty well if you can get 3 or 4 as the smallest ones are bringing $35 as long as the honeycomb is intact. Copper is paying well over $1 if not $2 a pound now as well. Pretty easy to come up with a couple hundred bucks worth of junk in a big hurry. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Ahh, sounds like the powdercoating is flammable, or otherwise gets that way in an enclosed heated area... Yeah, probably just a couple bucks though. Some guy stopped by last weekend looking for scrap. I may make him up a pile of stuff, just doesn't quite seem worth the hassle to me if someone is willing to take it for free. Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Levi, I am not certain of the exact temp needed but I do know it must be an electric oven or it will explode.Is your oven electric? If nothing else tin price is up and that old oven is actually worth a couple bucks at the scrapyard. I bet a toaster oven would work for really small parts and practicing. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating Hmm... What temperature do you need it at? I've got an oven sitting in my barn that works other than the normal range of the thermostat. i.e. it'll still hold like 700F for the clean cycle... Probably not much use for most things. I think I'm gonna have to chuck it... Levi On 5/25/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but Mama would be mighty peeved when her cookies came out tasting and smelling like your wheels. Mike - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] DIY Powdercoating --bake at 400 degrees. 'Sounds like a project for Mama's oven. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon?
Heck, even a well built TH400 has a hard time holding up to a 4BT Cummins. Let alone a wimpy Chrysler OD auto. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? I've seen trannies rated on a per cylinder basis, suggesting that there is a maximum force per power pulse that they don't want to exceed. Yeah, the pounding that a 4B or 6B Cummins gives a tranny is one of the reasons Dodge has had tranny troubles over the years. It's _not_ a Chevy 350! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I am also curious as to the real answer to your question. I guess my comments have helped go astray from that. 115 is what years? Would a 76 240D 4 speed be a 115? I like the 123 chassis much more than any of the others as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I did say fun right?...Not cheap. Although, with the right cam and attached to a 700R4 automatic, followed up by say, 2.73 or so rear end gearing a 472 or 502 powered 123 could be reasonably efficient. Over 20MPG should be easy enough with a carb, let alone what you could do with a Pro-Jection setup from Holley. Mike - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? At current gasoline prices? I am starting to lust after my daughter's Chevy Cavalier. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale
CASH ONLY!! If they can't go to the bank and bring you cash tell them to go fly a kite. No reason they can't if they are legit. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale I'll hopefully be selling my car very soon, and I thought that forms of payment such as certified check, or money order were some of the safest ways to go (as opposed to a personal check). But now I see that a certified check seems to be the weapon of choice in the scammers' arsenal? When selling a vehicle, what are some of the safest ways to accept payment? I'll be doing this transaction in person. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale
AND..ALWAYS get a reciept in the buyers handwriting stating that you sold him/her the car in AS-IS condition with NO warranty. I sold a Camaro to some folks in Ohio, delivered it to them, got my reciept and we all left happy. 3 days after I get home I get a call from a lawyer saying they want to sue me as I sold them a piece of junk. They had overheated and blown the engine the day I dropped it off to them driving it around with no tags and got busted. I promptly told the lawyer I had a reciept in his clients handwriting stating it was sold as-is and his tune promptly changed and I never heard from them again. Good luck, Mike - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale If I were doing it in person I'd go to a bank and have the seller get cash to give to me unless I knew the buyer pretty well - my brother or something. Let the bank take the responsibility of making sure the funds are real. I'm planning to buy Donald's 300SEL, and will probably use that method [you do have Bank of America out there, don't you Don?]. I'll also want a Carfax report on the car and plan to check it over even though I have no reason to mistrust Donald, and will have invested in travel to Wichita by that point. None of us are perfect, and neither of us wants to be in a situation of 'I assumed that '. What you want is a clean deal that you don't have to lie awake and wonder about later. I'd go out of my way to avoid deals that have to be made after banking hours, even to the point of delivering the car to a bank near the buyers place of work, or insisting that the buyer give you an instrument that you can take to his bank and get cash for prior to turning over the car. Paranoid? Yes. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Safe forms of payment in a car sale I'll hopefully be selling my car very soon, and I thought that forms of payment such as certified check, or money order were some of the safest ways to go (as opposed to a personal check). But now I see that a certified check seems to be the weapon of choice in the scammers' arsenal? When selling a vehicle, what are some of the safest ways to accept payment? I'll be doing this transaction in person. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon?
Karl, If you do the swap do you want to sell me your automatic tranny? I could use it for my 83 300TD. Where are you? Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: Karl Wittnebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? I have an 85 123 wagon with the regular slushbox. It has only 160K mi on it and is still going strong. I have no intention of getting rid of the thing as it seems to improve with age. I recently identified a gray market 300d (sedan) of similar vintage with a bad motor which has the 5-speed, and am thinking about doing the transmission switch. Anyone ever do this before? How painful is it? I know if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but I think I would enjoy the next 200K miles more with a manual shifter, Compared to what it would cost to buy a new(er) car, this seems a reasonable investment in my driving satisfaction. Informed comments appreciated, Karl - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon?
Actually Phillip, the exact opposite is true with diesel engines and manual transmissions. Most failures I have encountered occured due to very high temperatures generated by large amounts of torque running in high gears. There is MUCH more stress on the input and mainshaft bearings of a manual tranny under full torque in a higher gear. The lower the gear the better for the tranny but the worse for everything behind the tranny. Mike - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? It seems than at Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:51 -0400, Allan wrote: I recall a statement on this list that Mercedes never paired a turbodiesel motor with a manual transmission, at least not in the era we're discussing. In the USA, I know that's true - but I recall hearing that in Europe a turbo/manual combination was available. People have put manual transmissions in W123 turbodiesels, but the torque of the motor is more than the transmissions were designed to handle, and they tend to break in a relatively short time. The biggest danger in over-torque is in low gear. The input torque is multiplied by the gear ratio resulting in _lots_ of torque at the output. The hot-rod big trucks will put 1000+ hp/2500+ lb-ft engines in front of transmission spec'ed for 1800 lb-ft. The transmission survives because the _driver_ is smart enough to avoid having the engine develop maximum power in the lower gears. Once the transmission is in high range the driver can actually use the engine power that's available. My I-have-no-real-info-but-I'm-going-to-guess-anyway opinion is that the same would be true for our cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts
We do too..For free even!! Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts YOU get a HOIST!?! Wow, we have to depend on strong arming anything we want out of the car and hope we do not break a limb in the process. That hoist would make all sorts of jobs a bunch simpler. clay On May 24, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: P.S. U-Pull bundts are $20 here. (I know you know, Clay.) $20 That is pretty spendy I am still able to get normal bundts for $12.50, those chrome jobbies were $15 So how much are steel wheels for an '82 240D (W123) to use for snow tires? Steel wheels are $10 here. I just looked, they've dropped their alloy wheel price to $12.50 as well. Both prices complete with rubber, if any. Usually the tires found there are not so good. But not always! Chrome doesn't matter that I can tell. For reference, for those who have not been to a U-Pull type place: http://www.pullandsave.com/prices.htm -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon?
Exactly. The bicycle is a fine example. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? Is this the reason that automatic tranny cars with overdrive have the overdrive-off button? (besides for towing, etc.) Because driving around in too high a gear puts undue stress on the transmission, yes? I often think of the example of riding a bicycle in too high a gear for your speed. This brings awareness of the improper gearing in the form of straining and pain. Too bad we don't have pain gauges on cars. Then I could point to it and say to my wife SEE? Brian On 5/24/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Phillip, the exact opposite is true with diesel engines and manual transmissions. Most failures I have encountered occured due to very high temperatures generated by large amounts of torque running in high gears. There is MUCH more stress on the input and mainshaft bearings of a manual tranny under full torque in a higher gear. The lower the gear the better for the tranny but the worse for everything behind the tranny. Mike - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? It seems than at Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:51 -0400, Allan wrote: I recall a statement on this list that Mercedes never paired a turbodiesel motor with a manual transmission, at least not in the era we're discussing. In the USA, I know that's true - but I recall hearing that in Europe a turbo/manual combination was available. People have put manual transmissions in W123 turbodiesels, but the torque of the motor is more than the transmissions were designed to handle, and they tend to break in a relatively short time. The biggest danger in over-torque is in low gear. The input torque is multiplied by the gear ratio resulting in _lots_ of torque at the output. The hot-rod big trucks will put 1000+ hp/2500+ lb-ft engines in front of transmission spec'ed for 1800 lb-ft. The transmission survives because the _driver_ is smart enough to avoid having the engine develop maximum power in the lower gears. Once the transmission is in high range the driver can actually use the engine power that's available. My I-have-no-real-info-but-I'm-going-to-guess-anyway opinion is that the same would be true for our cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tranny
Does that tranny have a reverse band adjutment like on my old 123 240D? Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tranny Wilton, Thanks for the explanation. As long as it moves in reverse, I don't think i'd worry about it. But there are people on the list and elsewhere who are much better at Auto trans diagnosis than me. Remember, I hate auto transmissions. I do not trust diagnoses from part changers at dealers. There are some good people at dealers, but they are the exception, not the rule. Loren At 01:11 PM 5/24/2007, you wrote: Loren, tranny slips in reverse and often have to rev engine to engage reverse - then it's weak and slipping - very hard to back up slight incline. Forward gears are strong and positive. MB dealer this morning quoted about $3k to replace with rebuilt. Quotes so far are based on my description of symptoms. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts
Yes, most correctest would be what I am hunting. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts I think the question was most correctest manner to skin this cat not that two good cans of rattle spray are not the most expeditious. That is a very quick and effective way to solve the issue. clay On May 22, 2007, at 11:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: For those of us who are anally challenged, a scrubbing followed by two coats of Rustoleum Aluminum paint yields exceedingly nice - and cost effective - results. On 5/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Griots Garage has a IIRC $50 package that will finish four wheels. You are supplies a cleaner, some instructions, a can of primer, two cans of color, and two cans of clear. I am very happy with the outcome I got, but you really need to do exceedingly good prep. If you are able to hit your local rattle can shop, that formula of primer, color and coat will serve you fine. Some cans are even labeled wheel paint and come in a close enough grey. Where you will really see issues is with the stupid lug bolt heads and the caps. Go all out on prep there. If you get lucky and have a spare wheel in the trunk that has never seen the road, use that as a reference point. I pick one up at PnP and was able to go to Home Depot and sourced some rattle cans for the after-market pseudo bundts I refurbed. clay On May 22, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Mike Canfield wrote: Heck, I could do them painted for less than $100I better hit the pick and pull..What would be the proper paint to use? I mean, to be correct for a restoration.. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts I believe they;re available for around $100-$130 in many places - but tha might be exch at some places. and those are painted - chromed ones (yuck) and around $180. If you sell them fr $100 that;s probably a good price - make sure you have some profit built in. Many suggest 30% or so - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts So, What is the finish on the Bundts? Is it paint or powdercoating? A friend of mine has a whole stack of them I was wondering about restoring and reselling. I have podercoating equipment and a bead blast setup available to use. Done right, looking new, would they be worth $100 each, outright, with no core charge, to anyone? I've been thinking of buying the equipment for myself but haven't been sure if I could make it pay for itself. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... I spent a few minutes with them today. Does not seem to be bubbles from behind, as there is no great dimensionality that goes to depth. It is surface schmutz that rubs off with elbow grease. At least the one bit I worked on. On May 20, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products and get a set of shiny wheels back. Something like $400 for the pleasure They will not accept chromed wheels as cores. Your 'pitting' looked an awful lot like bubbling from behind. That, I've seen. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts
In that case I think powdercoating would yield a much smoother finish with much less prep. Glass bead it, solvent wash and powdercoat.I have the oven, now I need to save up for the powdercoating equipment. I'd rather use my own than borrow seeing I intend to make a profit. Thanks for the tips..I'll let you guys know how and when it goes. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts Hi Jim, Yeah, I think maybe it is. If you've ever tried to get a very smooth surface you'll know it's more pain than paint! :-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts The official pain is the Wurth Silver and Wurth Clear Coat. --- Freudian slip? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: 5/22/2007 3:49 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage was Re: Now, a liar on craigslist...
Had a 75 GMC pickup with the same setup.8MPG pulling the loaded trailer or running empty. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage was Re: Now, a liar on craigslist... My 75 Blazer with 400 and full time 4-wheel drive never met a gas pump it didn't like. I used to get roughly 8MPG. Didn't seem to matter what I was pulling, though. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/22/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother has a 1973 Cadillac Sedan Deville. It has a 472 in it. He gets about 7-8 mpg. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
Details, details, details. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow... Wouldn't you have to put a trans into it first? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:13:58 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Now I have to build a reciever hitch and tow the car trailer with the TD..I wonder how the hydraulic suspension would handle it Maybe an equalizer hitch and electric brakes is all I would need...LOLOLOL Mike - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Very good point Ned. No one benefits. Mike - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay Everything I've bought on eBay turned out to be what I expected and less. And the price my family gets for stuff we sell on ebay is usually disappointingly low. Ayway, It seems to me the buyers and the sellers would both be happier if the format was arranged more like, the auction ends not earlier than the designated time and 15 minutes (or 5 or 10 or whatever) after the last high bid is placed. Then buyers would no longer loose by $1 because someone else had faster software to enter the last bid, and the seller would be sure to get maximum price. A live, in-person, auction never ends until the auctioneer is sure nobody is going to place a higher bid. And it never takes very long for the bidding to end. I'm sure changing to my suggested format would not extend any auction time by very much, unless there is a real bidding war going on. Who benefits from ending a bidding war by the clock? Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts
So, What is the finish on the Bundts? Is it paint or powdercoating? A friend of mine has a whole stack of them I was wondering about restoring and reselling. I have podercoating equipment and a bead blast setup available to use. Done right, looking new, would they be worth $100 each, outright, with no core charge, to anyone? I've been thinking of buying the equipment for myself but haven't been sure if I could make it pay for itself. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... I spent a few minutes with them today. Does not seem to be bubbles from behind, as there is no great dimensionality that goes to depth. It is surface schmutz that rubs off with elbow grease. At least the one bit I worked on. On May 20, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products and get a set of shiny wheels back. Something like $400 for the pleasure They will not accept chromed wheels as cores. Your 'pitting' looked an awful lot like bubbling from behind. That, I've seen. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts
Heck, I could do them painted for less than $100I better hit the pick and pull..What would be the proper paint to use? I mean, to be correct for a restoration.. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts I believe they;re available for around $100-$130 in many places - but tha might be exch at some places. and those are painted - chromed ones (yuck) and around $180. If you sell them fr $100 that;s probably a good price - make sure you have some profit built in. Many suggest 30% or so - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts So, What is the finish on the Bundts? Is it paint or powdercoating? A friend of mine has a whole stack of them I was wondering about restoring and reselling. I have podercoating equipment and a bead blast setup available to use. Done right, looking new, would they be worth $100 each, outright, with no core charge, to anyone? I've been thinking of buying the equipment for myself but haven't been sure if I could make it pay for itself. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste... I spent a few minutes with them today. Does not seem to be bubbles from behind, as there is no great dimensionality that goes to depth. It is surface schmutz that rubs off with elbow grease. At least the one bit I worked on. On May 20, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products and get a set of shiny wheels back. Something like $400 for the pleasure They will not accept chromed wheels as cores. Your 'pitting' looked an awful lot like bubbling from behind. That, I've seen. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay
Yes Brian, That pretty much sums it all up Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay We had our first ebay experience tonight. Decided to register with ebay and jump on and bid on a car as the auction was just about 15 min. from ending. We didn't plan to jump in at the last minute, just worked out that way. I'm sure it irritated some people, or maybe it happens all the time. Seems, though, that a number of people wait 'til within the last minute, maybe the last 5 or 10 seconds and just one-up any competitors. I imagine that there may be some people that know from experience that, based on their computer, and on the number of bidders, that they can put in their bid with, maybe 3 or 4 seconds left and leave anyone else unable to respond in time. Kinda harsh, but what should I have expected. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow...
Now I have to build a reciever hitch and tow the car trailer with the TD..I wonder how the hydraulic suspension would handle it Maybe an equalizer hitch and electric brakes is all I would need...LOLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Who says MBs can't tow... http://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2179309postcount=135 Thats just crazy... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
Man, if that wasn't all the way across the country I would have to have it! Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Jeff, My main concern is that I don't want to cut the original harness in the car. I can modify the trailer plug end to suit. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Mike, The trailer wiring harnesses here are a lot different than North American ones. It's a big round plug, approx 2 inches across and sits to the right of the hitch. My new Audi A4 TDI manual has a factory hitch! VERY nice! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
I hadn't checked Wally World yet..They didn't have one for my Dodge truck so I was doubtfull about the TD. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Ahh, you just pick one up for like $15 at Wal-mart and wire it in. It's worked fine on my 97' Subaru and 83' 300D... Levi On 5/17/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to have a trailer wiring harness for my 123 TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least
Yeah, OK...The Washington Native Americans really just doesn't sound quite as threatening does it? Isn't that what the whole idea of names like that was in the first place? Here we go with the pussification again..A red skinned spud ay? Then you discrimnate against the folks in Idaho... Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish -wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least
Those Wizards sure are Grand ay? Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish -wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least I was amaazed when the DC NBA team changed their name from the offensive Bullets to the much less offensive name of the main guy of a KKK group, Wizards. Brilliant! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least Yeah, OK...The Washington Native Americans really just doesn't sound quite as threatening does it? Isn't that what the whole idea of names like that was in the first place? Here we go with the pussification again..A red skinned spud ay? Then you discrimnate against the folks in Idaho... Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Very nice. Congrats. Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT What do you guys think? http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jer99/mercedes/300td/ Everything seems to work... from the cruise to the A/C. It has a brand new injection pump, and the tranny was supposedly recently rebuilt (have receipt for IP, not for tranny). The engine barely sounds like a diesel when driving around!! The suspension is probably original it is VERY hard to drive in a straight line. The nitrogen spheres are also completely gone... I'm thinking about upgrading to Sportline suspension while I'm in there. We'll see how all that goes. Will be a few months before I've got the time/money to get started on it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
Wow..I didn't even know MA was big enough to have so many different names for parts of it...;) Mike - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. Used to live in Portsmouth on Viking Drive with a view of the Old Stone Bridge (!) on the Sakonnet. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, (I know, from the North Shore, anything past Rte. 128 is Western MA. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs - hey at least I labeledit OT
The ones in cars are Menonites, an offshoot of the Amish. The Amish will ride in cars but they will not operate them. We used to haul veal calves for Amish farmers in PA to the slaughterhouse in NJ and they were insistent upon riding along and seeing every calf get slaughtered before being paid in cash for them. He would then pay us in cash and we would take him back home. Never was a talker..Would just sit there silently and ride. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs - hey at least I labeledit OT Yes, as for some folks actually being good, when you live by some sort of code of behavior - Amish, Buddhist, whatever, you usually wind up benefitting society. Unless your code is fundamentalist Islam, or Gangsta-Stop-Snitchin, or other systems that are fatally flawed. As Chris Elliot said on an episode of King of Queens I think we can all agree that the Amish are pretty great. I used to deliver tractor trailer parts in southern PA. When I'd go up to the Lankister area, it sucked getting caught behind so many carts. Around here, on the frontage road to I-90, I sometimes see a guy standing on an open cart being pulled by two horses - the cart is dragging one large tractor tire. Didn't know if he was exercising the horses, or smoothing out the dirt road? We see an Amish dad and two boys at the farmer's market here in town. The thing that freaks me out is the hands on those little boys! They're like little shrunken down man hands! Freakish. So oversized and proportioned like an adult's. And rough and dirty looking - like they'd still look dirty even when washed. And are the Amish loosening their standards on not using technology? I see them more and more riding around in cars. I figure what the heck, there's a lot of OT on the list lately, and Rich seems to be the only one reading this. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
So I guess my $600 83 300TD with 298K and a tranny that went bad in 500 miles was a really good deal.And who was it that said there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes? ;) Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Forgot about that in the first post 316k. From what I've seen on eBay... this thing was pretty cheap. They seem to go for about 4500-6000 there. Even some of the W123 versions!! Hehe, I'm up to 4 vehicles and one driver... '79 300SD, '84 190D, 87 300TD and '95 Mazda B2300. I don't really have plans to sell any of them either. I can't hide from my addiction anymore ;-) John Kevin Kraly wrote: Congratulations! How many miles are on it? That will be my price range later this year when I have enough saved up to buy a TD. Nope, ain't sellin' my SD, nope, no way! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
BBBWWWAAAHHHAAAHHH!!! Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Ya got Bawstun (which includes quite a bit of other towns), da Nawuth Showah (Italian Riviera), da South Showah (Irish Riviera), Downnacape (Wheahd ya go this weekend? Ah, nowheah, just downnacape.), and the rest of it. --R Mike Canfield wrote: Wow..I didn't even know MA was big enough to have so many different names for parts of it...;) Mike - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. Used to live in Portsmouth on Viking Drive with a view of the Old Stone Bridge (!) on the Sakonnet. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, (I know, from the North Shore, anything past Rte. 128 is Western MA. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs - hey at least I labeledit OT
The Amish will use motorized equipment.The deal is something to do with thier belief that they must be in contact with the ground and a rubber tire insulates you from it. That is why they use the iron wheeled tractors and the like and some do use rubber tire implements behind an iron wheeled tractor. As far as moving things you hit the nail right on the head.They hire it all out. I know a gent who just recieved a very nice gooseneck aluminum horse trailer as a gift from the Amish. It is all his but he must do the hauling that they need done in exchange for it as needed. I have to agree with youThey are the most honorable and hardworking folks i have ever had the pleasure of meeting. Every one, not just most. Never heard a gruff word spoken among any of them around here. Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs - hey at least I labeledit OT This guy was definitely a horse and buggy guy, 44 yr old, 13 kids (20yo-6mo, his wife did not look too worse for the wear), but he did have motorized saws in his saw mill. He had an old motorcycle engine hooked up to an old table saw, which at one point he stopped cold with a bad cut (I was cringing at his use of the table saw -- we got talking about how fingers chop mighty easily). And he had a couple of diesel powered sawmills. He bought a big lawn vac thing at the auction, had a motor to drive the vac, and was going to use it for a sawdust collector. He was originally from Lancaster Co PA, up in the thick of Amish country. Turns out my aunt's gentleman friend knew him from some past dealings, thought him a bit odd, but I think that was just the local views on these folk who moved into the area 10 yr or so ago when their clans got too big to find farms wherever they were before (he had been in eastern KY a few years previous). I don't know how they move all their stuff around, unless they hire movers. Neither he or his son or his nephew spoke much unless asked questions, and were quite spare with their words even then. He did make some rather droll observations, reminded me of the old Mainahs. At one point I asked how I could contact him, he told me the mail came by 6 days a week, right to his front drive, and a stamp cost less than my cell phone call. Too funny. I found them to be decent and honorable though, a rare commodity. There are some around who drive, and some who have tractors with road gearing and they tow closed-in truck-bed trailers with the family in there. Next time I see this guy I am going to ask him the details of the various flavors of beliefs in regards to vehicles and motors and such. --R Mike Canfield wrote: The ones in cars are Menonites, an offshoot of the Amish. The Amish will ride in cars but they will not operate them. We used to haul veal calves for Amish farmers in PA to the slaughterhouse in NJ and they were insistent upon riding along and seeing every calf get slaughtered before being paid in cash for them. He would then pay us in cash and we would take him back home. Never was a talker..Would just sit there silently and ride. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs - hey at least I labeledit OT Yes, as for some folks actually being good, when you live by some sort of code of behavior - Amish, Buddhist, whatever, you usually wind up benefitting society. Unless your code is fundamentalist Islam, or Gangsta-Stop-Snitchin, or other systems that are fatally flawed. As Chris Elliot said on an episode of King of Queens I think we can all agree that the Amish are pretty great. I used to deliver tractor trailer parts in southern PA. When I'd go up to the Lankister area, it sucked getting caught behind so many carts. Around here, on the frontage road to I-90, I sometimes see a guy standing on an open cart being pulled by two horses - the cart is dragging one large tractor tire. Didn't know if he was exercising the horses, or smoothing out the dirt road? We see an Amish dad and two boys at the farmer's market here in town. The thing that freaks me out is the hands on those little boys! They're like little shrunken down man hands! Freakish. So oversized and proportioned like an adult's. And rough and dirty looking - like they'd still look dirty even when washed. And are the Amish loosening their standards on not using technology? I see them more and more riding around in cars. I figure what the heck, there's a lot of OT on the list lately, and Rich seems to be the only one reading this. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart or stoopid?
4.9% smarter than average..Yeah, ok. Whatever. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Smart or stoopid? www.flashbynight.com/test/ ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car
BBBWAAAAAHHHAAA! Mike - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car IT'S CRAZY PRICE DAY HERE AT CRAZY KALEBS USED AUTOMOBILE EMPORIUM. COME ON DOWN FOR A FREE BBQ AND FACE PAINTING FOR THE KIDDIES. IF I DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU WANT I WILL SEARCH EBAY UNTIL I FIND A BARGAIN FOR YOU MY FRIEND. YES SIRREY HERE AT CRAZY KALEBS WE SPECIALISE IN HIGH MILEAGE, DIESEL BURNING, FOREIGN MADE CLASSICS. PREFER TO BURN GAS? WEEL WE HAVE THEM TOO, JUST ASK IF YOU ARE NOT SURE. SPECIAL BONUS THIS MONTH ONLY IS A FREE SUBSCRIPTION TO THE WORLDS FOREMOST ONLINE MERCEDES DISCUSSION GROUP. LEARN ALL THE SECRETS OF WHAT MAKES CRAZY KALEBS CARS SO WONDERFUL, CHAT WITH OTHER FULLY SATISFIED OWNERS OF CRAZY KALEBS CARS, SHARE YOUR FONDEST MEMORIES OF SITTING BEHIND THE WHEEL OF ONE OF CRAZY KALEBS GREAT CARS AND MUCH MUCH MORE. SO DON'T HESITATE COME ON DOWN TODAY FOR SOME CRA PRICES. MENTION THIS AD AND WE'LL INCLUDE 5 GALLONS OF DIESEL AND A QUART OF MOBIL 1 ENGINE OIL*. LIKE WE SAY AT CRAZY KALEBS USED AUTOMOBILE EMPORIUM.IT'S ALL GONE CRAYYY *Availabiliy of free Diesel and Mobil 1 oil subject to Kaleb being able to syphon some out of other cars - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tell me why I shouldn't buy this car make an offer Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:09:41 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I might sell my SDL, but Im afraid you probably wouldnt want to pay as much as I would want. How much would you want? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
Hey All, As some of you know, I just picked up an 83 300TD. It has been running absolutely beautiful until this morning. To start things off it's my girlfriends birthday so something bad was bound to happen.. Anyway, she got up and headed for work in the TD this morning and got about 1/2 mile away and called to tell me the car is in drive but will not go. She said it made a loud bang and just quit going. I figured a u-joint or flex disk failure...No such luck. Fluid level is fine, fluid does not smell burnt, linkages and driveshaft are all fine; torque converter is turning but the tranny does nothing at all. Park is the only thing that works.. HELP Is this the infamous B2 piston failure? Does my car have that? How hard to fix? I can't afford to buy or rebuild a tranny...Heck, I can't even afford the parts to fix it right now.. Figures... THanks all, Mike From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 10 11:34:45 2007 Received: from mailout5.parasun.com ([204.174.16.215]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hm6uy-0001ls-Un for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:34:45 + Received: from rrcs-24-39-223-119.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.223.119] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout5.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Hm6uw-0006eG-BW for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:34:42 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:34:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon exonerated, wife lays egg X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:34:45 - Glad you figured it out Jim.I STILL have no idea how in the world anyone could pump $50 worth of the wrong fuel without noticing they were doing it...Talk about not paying attention!! She's just lucky you drive a tough car. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon exonerated, wife lays egg When my wife got home she sheepishly admitted that upon reflection, she'd put 15.5 gallons, $50, of gasoline into the car, not diesel. She was in a hurry and was worried about running out of fuel, so she'd gone to a different station than usual. She remembers 87 on the pump, and noticing that it didn't foam up like it usually did. Yeah, that'll do it. That also explains the new-found 'stickiness' of the primer pump, and the extra 'fuminess' I experienced when blowing through the main fuel filter. The large reserve capacity in the tank explains why I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with the fuel; the dilution wasn't quite so bad as to make it obviously gasoline nor to keep it from running. It explains everything. Fortunately the fuel system in this class of car is extremely robust, there is unlikely to have been any lasting damage. Tomorrow I need to siphon out enough of the tank so that the three gallons of diesel I have in cans here can push the gasoline dilution to no more than Mercedes' old-time recommendation of 25%. That should get me to the gas station where I can fill it up with diesel, pushing the dilution down to something tolerable. Over time I can then use up this contaminated fuel a little at a time, that should keep the dilution from being harmful while not wasting the $50. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
No..It does nothing. No noise, no forward, no reverse, only park. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP Does reverse work?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
Well, if the chances are that low then that is probably wheat happened to mine..My luck runs like that. In thinking of what the car has been doing lately, I recall that last night when I parked it I was letting it idle for a couple minutes( I live on a large hill so I figure it's very good for the turbo) and heard what i thought then was an exhaust leak up by the tranny...My exhaust system is in pretty rough shape so I wasn't too worried about it. Sounded like a rust hole in the pipe or a slightly burnt out gasket would. I am not sure if that is related or not but I don't hear the noise today so... So what years and models do I need to look for to get a replacement tranny? The pick and pull had a few last time I was there...I wonder if there is a good tranny. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP What Jeff said... If reverse works, it's probably the B2. If no reverse, then things are a little more iffy. I've had a torque converter destroy itself, with similar symptoms, but that freakish series of events has zero chance of ever occuring again during the life of this universe. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/10/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does reverse work?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
Thanks Jeff, I intend to do just thatI would be out there right now doing so but it is raining and nasty and I get to work on it outside in the dirt. So if I do find I need to pull the trans out is there anything that makes this job any different from a typical American RWD drive car? I have done many Chevy, Ford and Dodge RWD tranny jobs...Torque converter, lines and linkages, mount, bellhousing bolts, driveshaft.Anything I am missing? Any special tools? Thanks again, Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP I'd drop the pan and check for metal filings in the fluidcould be as simple as a new front pump...could be catastrophic...you'll need to take a closer , more serious look.. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon exonerated, wife lays egg
I'm watching my step very carefully. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon exonerated, wife lays egg Careful Mike, everytime I say something like that I do something extremely stupid... -Curt Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:34:16 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon exonerated, wife lays egg To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Glad you figured it out Jim.I STILL have no idea how in the world anyone could pump $50 worth of the wrong fuel without noticing they were doing it...Talk about not paying attention!! She's just lucky you drive a tough car. Mike - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
I had Toni hold the brake, put the car in gear and rev it up a bit while I watched the driveshaft for movement..It tries to turn itBasically, the tranny is attempting to move the car but is not capable. How hard is it to inspect this mischeivous B2 piston? Can it be done still in the car? Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP There are really two different failure modes for the B2. Scenario 1 (most common) is that the B2 piston comes apart but continues to seal the bore. It just kind of floats around in the bore, simulating the clutch half in feeling. The lower the gear, the more affected. Hitting the accellerator increases the working pressure, and eventually the B2 is pushed into place. Scenario 2 is that the B2 piston comes apart and wedges in the bore. Nothing works but reverse. You ain't goin' nowhere but back'ards. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/10/07, Chris Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm correct in my diagnosis of my 300SD having a bad B2 piston, it never nade any strange noises. It started to flare between first and second, and then suddenly it feels like you have the clutch halfway to the floor on a stick shift. I have not had time to get under the car, and with my lack of experience working on them I'm a little hesitant to just unbolt the tranny and give it a shot. I don't have a clue what could be wrong with your car, but I don't think its a b2. My reverse works great, second seems ok, 3 and 4 are just fine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Zaphod, was: Makes your job look dull..
Well, without too much detail you could just say something like the second head is mounted on the end of the third arm.. Mike - Original Message - From: Zaphod (formerly known as LT Don) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Zaphod, was: Makes your job look dull.. Uh ... I'd answer with a zipper sort of comment if we were on Banned. ;-) On 5/8/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always known about the two heads, but when did you sprout the third arm??? On 5/8/07, Zaphod (formerly known as LT Don) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is about two degrees less stressful than USCG SAR. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1951 VW Beetle DIESEL
I'd like to see it.. Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1951 VW Beetle DIESEL I have come across an article on Porsches attempt to make a diesel VW Beetle in 1951. The article is from an issue of OLD Motor , March 1982. May I send the article to the entire forum ? Article size 300KB PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
Ah, I recall now..'twas the Ferguson(very similar to the Ford) that had the brakes both on the right. My JDA has one on each side, in a very awkward position I might add, and a hand clutch. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) that never worked on any of ours. The brake engages long before the clutch disengages. I can manipulate the brake and accelerator pedals one footed on SF-grade hills. But never could get brake and clutch on the FOrd at the same time. At 02:13 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote: Clutch is on left as well as the brake. Placing you foot over both will engage both as far as I can tell. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
Yes, I was mistaken. The Jubilee's must have taken that into account. Just a note.The 53 was the only Golden Jubilee. As it was the 50 year anniversary model. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) not on 8n and 9n When you get to the golden jubilees, they have both brakes on the right. At 01:36 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote: Huh? IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both on the right... Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) Except they crack heads. the worst part though is that they can kill you. You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time. At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote: Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes! I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n. The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although I might have the 8n and 9n backwards. Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion forums over there are great. -Curt Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400 From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N tractor this weekend that needs work. Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. Also needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that could offer advice? Thanks! Dave Wakin - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
Hi Dave, I don't have one but have worked with and on a few. Darned good little tractors for the size. Tractor Supply Company used to have a very good supply of used parts, not sure if they still do(that was back when they were Central Tractor). They do stock all of the tune up stuff and the correct paint at the local TSC. Good luck, Mike - Original Message - From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N tractor this weekend that needs work. Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. Also needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that could offer advice? Thanks! Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?
Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there Jim wrote - nice harness that spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him! Sled dog? don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you had a couple thousand of them maybe. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal collars - their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged. Ours wear halters which spread the load around the shoulders. The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him! Sled dog? I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with a bit of larynx damage! Just a bit, now. Perhaps not what you'd get with a collar incident, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 9:07 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
Huh? IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both on the right... Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) Except they crack heads. the worst part though is that they can kill you. You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time. At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote: Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes! I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n. The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although I might have the 8n and 9n backwards. Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion forums over there are great. -Curt Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400 From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N tractor this weekend that needs work. Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. Also needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that could offer advice? Thanks! Dave Wakin - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?
Hallucinating? What were you feeding him? Mike - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000 Chiauhauh's pull? I'll stick with my preference of a 'Gentle Leader' over a pulling dog, and I promise that a 17 month old 105 lb yellow lab can pull very hard when motivated or hallucinating. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000 Chiauhauh's pull? My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster and let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such. But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a super duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with more defense drive instead. Brian On 5/7/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 2 would be worrying about each other too much to pull together *anythng* ! Ha! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000 Chiauhauh's pull? Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there Jim wrote - nice harness that spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him! Sled dog? don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you had a couple thousand of them maybe. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal collars - their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged. Ours wear halters which spread the load around the shoulders. The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him! Sled dog? I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with a bit of larynx damage! Just a bit, now. Perhaps not what you'd get with a collar incident, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 9:07 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/792 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 9:01 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Picked up an 83 300TD needs vacuum pump and other issues
I just picked up an 83 300TD with 298K miles on it. Among some other issues, it needs a vacuum pump. Was working fine and just quit. No vacuum to anything. How hard is it to change the pump? What drives it? I have an 83 300SD I can rob parts fromWill the vacuum pump fit my TD? I have become a pro at cleaning out the primary fuel filter as the tank is VERY rusty. I should get a new tank but for now I can't afford it. I have put a few hundred miles on her so far and I love it. So much more power than my 240D had. Overall the car appears to have been very well maintained by an older gentleman who passed away a few years ago. A car dealer got it, apparently got tired of messing with plugged fuel filters and swapped it to a friend of mine for a lawn tractor. I ended up swapping my very cool 68 M37 Army truck for the TD and an 89 Iveco Euro turbo 15-14 truck with only 94K miles. The wagon is originally from MD and has very little rust. Very solid around the jacking points. The tach works when it feels like it and none of the dash lights are working so I am going to get into that tomorrow if time allows. The suspension and steering is all in extremely good shape and it handles great. The rear end sits up very nice. If anyone has any of these parts in reasonable driving distance from upstate NY I may be interested...Both front and rear bumpers, palomino third seat and belts, exhaust system in good shape, FUEL TANK, hood pad and I am sure the list will go on. Thanks all, Mike From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 06 05:00:33 2007 Received: from pmail15c2.megamailservers.com ([69.49.111.205]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HkYrJ-0007Lf-9B for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 06 May 2007 05:00:33 + Received: from pmail15c2.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4650axt018347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 6 May 2007 01:00:37 -0400 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by pmail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.2/Submit) id l4650ZwS018346 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 6 May 2007 01:00:35 -0400 Received: from ip70-178-201-112.ks.ks.cox.net (ip70-178-201-112.ks.ks.cox.net [70.178.201.112]) by webmail.technostars.com (Webmail 2.0) with HTTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 06 May 2007 00:00:35 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 00:00:35 -0500 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] a freak of nature X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 05:00:33 - See my other email about my legal $0.83/gal biodiesel :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (245 kmi) For Sale '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So gas went up to 2.89 here, diesel was 2.63. This morning I see diesel went DOWN to 2.61. Very strange. I sure need to get that 100 gal tank installed in the back of my truck so I can have a supply when its cheaper.
Re: [MBZ] Picked up an 83 300TD needs vacuum pump and other issues
Thanks Rich! My 83 is also a W123. That writeup is very helpful. I am going to look at the 300SD to see how hard it is to take the stuff apart..Looks pretty simple to me. Here's a thought..Has anyone tried to replace the diaphragm by just removing the front of the pump while it is still on the car? Looks almost possible from the pics.I will find out when I pull apart the SD. I'd like to buy the new parts but cannot afford the extra right now and I have the parts car, and time. Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Picked up an 83 300TD needs vacuum pump and other issues I can't keep track of which models are which year, but here is my writeup of the VP replacement on Brunnhilde, 79 TD (123): http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm Everything you need to know! Note that I did this once, about a year later the rubber diaphragm failed again. Not sure why, but the 2nd fix has held up so far. 2 things make this easier -- clean the engine well, esp the area around the VP, and remove the power steering pump (which only takes a few minutes). Then you have clean access to the whole deal, clean being really important as the engine is open to the oil reservoir so you don't want trash falling in there. There are allen head bolts that hold it on, gettting to them by contorting around the PSP is not fun. Also, make the little jig as shown from some scrap wood or something as it really helps in reassembly. The second time it was maybe a 2 hour job, the fan and its little bolts with minimal access being the most time consuming and finger scraping aspect. Also keep track of which way everything comes apart and goes together so you get it right. I don't know if the VPs are the same on the SD and TD, but if you are doing this job, taking the time, it makes sense to just get the parts to make it new (like $40) and be done with it (one hopes). --R Mike Canfield wrote: I just picked up an 83 300TD with 298K miles on it. Among some other issues, it needs a vacuum pump. Was working fine and just quit. No vacuum to anything. How hard is it to change the pump? What drives it? I have an 83 300SD I can rob parts fromWill the vacuum pump fit my TD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Picked up an 83 300TD needs vacuum pump and other issues
Peter, You are right on the money. I got looking further and found a jerry-rigged vacuum fitting(the one with the check valve in it). It is repairable with some seal all. Thanks all, Mike - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Picked up an 83 300TD needs vacuum pump and other issues An 83 will have a piston type pump, not a diaphram (those were pre-76, I think). A sudden failure is more likely a broken vacuum line than a bad pump, although a broken spring on a check valve will cause sudden failure. I'd check for a big crack in the plastic section of the vacuum line and for a bad brake booster before changing the pump. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s
Ralph, I would be very interested. I got the wagon home today and hope to have it running well enough tomorrow to put it on the road and will be needing the third seat and belts before too long. Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s I just sold my other parts wagon which still had the third row seat. Easy to install. I added it to the wagon when it was still running. I did not however have shoulder belts. I was able to rig up some lap belts. I can contact the new owner and see if he is willing to sell. Let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s Can I add the third row seat to any TD? Does anyone have one with seatbelts and hardware they would like to part with? The wagon I found is brown with a tanish interior, kinda yellowy tanIs that palomino? I'm not real picky on color as long as it's in decent shape. I need to get something that will haul all of us(7) and get decent mileage. Gas and diesel are killing me at $3.12 a gallon and only getting 7-8 and 12 MPG. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s
Can I add the third row seat to any TD? Does anyone have one with seatbelts and hardware they would like to part with? The wagon I found is brown with a tanish interior, kinda yellowy tanIs that palomino? I'm not real picky on color as long as it's in decent shape. I need to get something that will haul all of us(7) and get decent mileage. Gas and diesel are killing me at $3.12 a gallon and only getting 7-8 and 12 MPG. Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: Eric Anderton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum amplifier On my 85 300D T recently when the engine is to temperature the transmission has started shifting like it has a lack of vacuum. It goes from really nice responsive smooth shifting to real clunky sluggish shifts. I have hooked up my mity vac and the modulator on the transmission holds vacuum. The blue amplifier that the modular runs off of however does not. What are some things I could look at to narrow this down a little? I really do not seem to have a vac leak. Can the blue amplifier go bad? how would I test this? Many Thanks. Eric Anderton 85 300D T 74 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rosie
Even worse she could be naked, cuddly and smelling of sex...I think I'm going to puke now.. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rosie You wrote (and believe me, I HATE repeating it could you imagine waking up to her every morning Oh dear God - you should be shot for just suggesting that image! At least you didn't say she might be naked - ;- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rosie could you imagine waking up to her every morning? [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?
Well being we are on our way to some really bad jokes.What do you call a Peugot that runs on veggie oil? A French fry...HArdy har har.LOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel? On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a challenge... You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area. That way you can hear the Peugeot Sound. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; Talk me out of buying this
Check out the questions to the seller..Imagine the nerve of the jerk asking to sell parts from the car!! Nice Saab though. Send Another Auto Back..LOL Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT; Talk me out of buying this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330111479538fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us Nicest old Saab I've ever seen in New England. This guy is pretty obviously into Saabs too... Its about 3 1/2 hours away from my place and with gas prices rising a car that gets double the gas mileage of the pickup my wife drives would be a welcome addition. Plus the old Saabs are really, really cool. Mercedes content: if I don't buy this car I'm still looking for a cheap diesel Benz... -Curt - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
