Re: [MBZ] Buy my car

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I wonder if you have to worry about rust on this car since it is located so
close to the ocean. My sister lives just North of Charlestown and there is a
lot of work to protect things from the salt mist in the air.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW325i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby
via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 6:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: [MBZ] Buy my car

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/johns-island-mercedes-benz-2004-e500
/7583633714.html

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Re: [MBZ] New ipad Pro help ( email apps?)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Never mind I finally found the correct icon and got my account set up. Just
takes a bit with a different device. More thins to learn.

Bob Massmann

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:07 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] New ipad Pro help ( email apps?)

Just got a new iPad Pro and was wanting to add MS Outlook or similar for my
current email service. I am currently using it on my desktop but when I
tried to add on the iPad it said I need to sign-in my business or personal
account. If I personal account, it should be under my primary email account
which is embarqmail. Not sure where to go from here unless there is another
apple email app that would allow sub-directory's and rules to move emails to
those directories.

 

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

 

Bob Massmann

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[MBZ] New ipad Pro help ( email apps?)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Just got a new iPad Pro and was wanting to add MS Outlook or similar for my
current email service. I am currently using it on my desktop but when I
tried to add on the iPad it said I need to sign-in my business or personal
account. If I personal account, it should be under my primary email account
which is embarqmail. Not sure where to go from here unless there is another
apple email app that would allow sub-directory's and rules to move emails to
those directories.

 

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

 

Bob Massmann

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Re: [MBZ] Possible Purchase from Copart Auction 22 foot Airstream near Me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Thanks Kaleb, will try an investigate

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Possible Purchase from Copart Auction 22 foot Airstream near 
Me

I have no idea about value but be sure to keep in mind your winning bid it just 
the start, copart has very high auction fees that most of the time put the 
total price well above what it is worth. 

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> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:29 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any thoughts from the group about what my bid limit should be for 
> this Airstream trailer. It is about 30 miles from me and I will be 
> going to try and get an up close look before the auction on the 25th. 
> GVW is listed at
> 6000 lbs and my ML 350 is rated at 7300 lbs towing capacity.
> 
> 
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated?
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Massmann
> 
> 
> 
> 2012 ML350 BT
> 
> 2002 BMW 525i
> 
> Oregonia, Ohio
> 


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Re: [MBZ] I am thinking I am going insane

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I feel the same way at times, misplaced my pole barn key. Luckily, I have a 
spare.

Bob Massmann

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 6:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: [MBZ] I am thinking I am going insane

I finally got the lug bolts off the S550.  The chrome cap on one came off. They 
were all torqued to about 500ftlbs.  Then the wheel was welded to the hub. I 
managed to get a stubby flat screwdriver in between the back of the wheel and 
the hub and beat on it enough in the small space inside the wheel spokes to 
finally pop it loose. 

So then I take a look at the wheel speed sensor and lo it was gone. The bolt 
was there but the whole sensor was gone.  Not plugged in.  I guess that’s why 
there’s a ESP ABS code on that wheel.  I know I did not do this.  Maybe someone 
jacked it at the auction yard or where I got it. Who knows. I also know I had 
ordered the part some time ago and it was in the car on the passenger floor. So 
I go to get it and it’s nowhere to be found. The bag it was in is there but no 
part. WTF. 

I am 99% certain I ordered the part. I also recall opening it and looking at it 
and then looking up a vid on how to replace it. I didn’t do it at that time for 
whatever reasons. I also remember moving it around.  I looked everywhere in the 
car. I feel like I am insane, have dementia, have confabulated the whole thing, 
or something. And why the one that should be on the car was missing is most 
curious too. 

Well I guess I need to order (another) one. And some new lug bolts too. Sigh. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Starting the year with an easy fix and a bonus

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

We had a Sears frig that was made by LG what a piece of junk. Worst was the 
melted interior light that wouldn't shut off. Eventually replaced it with a 
Samsung unit which was so much nicer.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starting the year with an easy fix and a bonus

My LG dryer has had a thumping noise since I bought it. It was a sales floor 
model so I got a good price on it. Always meant to open it up and see what was 
making the noise, but years later it's still running fine and hasn't gotten any 
worse, so maybe they just sound like that.

It has a steam function that no longer works. I have read that the water pump 
for the steam generator is prone to failure.

You'd think those Koreans would make better stuff. When they were called 
Goldstar it was bulletproof. My Goldstar microwave still works after over three 
decades of near-daily use.


On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, at 22:28, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> The freshly married kids rent a townhouse very near us. We both have 
> the same landlord. I feel I mentioned he is a really nice guy but not 
> at all handy. As a result, I fix everything and just give him receipts.
> The LG dryer in their place was making the rumbly sounds and the drum 
> was traveling around too much so I figured this would be a good 
> opportunity to teach the new SIL how to fix a noisy dryer. I assigned 
> him the task of figuring out what was wrong and what he needs to buy 
> to fix it properly (read: “YouTube” research).
> So I began researching and it took about four clicks to find out LG 
> dryers are POS and Amazon has fashioned a LG dryer rebuild kit that 
> will replace literally all the drum rolling/moving components…and it’s 
> only $35.
> SIL did well and needed only minor guidance when deciding which repair 
> kit to buy.
> The chintzy-ness of the original rollers/tensioner roller/tensioner 
> spring is staggering. The two rear rollers were completely wallered 
> out, the front ones were not too far behind. The tensioner spring was 
> no longer a spring at all. The tensioner roller clearly had been hot 
> enough at one point (or many points) to melt and mis-shapen itself.
> The Island of Large Wimmen kit was comprised of vastly better quality 
> stuff than original. SIL did a fine job of rebuilding that rascal and 
> he won the praise of my daughter who was elated at how quiet the dryer 
> now is.
>
> AZBob
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> great detective work Curt.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 9:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our dryer has been really noisy lately. I was thinking maybe a 
>>> bearing was failing but it wasn't a growly noise. Today I finally 
>>> got to take it apart and have a look.
>>> 
>>> Inside I found that stuff that escapes the drum collects just beside 
>>> the fan and somehow a 4" wood screw had managed to wedge itself into 
>>> the squirrel cage fan. That was making the fan out of balance and 
>>> shaking the whole dryer side to side.
>>> 
>>> The washer/dryer is a stackable unit but our basement isn't tall 
>>> enough for them so we've got them unstacked with 2x4s bolted to the 
>>> dryer to keep it suspended. Since it's attached to the house when it 
>>> was shaking it made the house shake and made a helluva noise. With 
>>> the screw removed it's back to normal again and our dryer has 15 years of 
>>> lint removed.
>>> 
>>> The little space in front of the fan had accumulated a bunch of 
>>> crap, mostly nickles which I thought was interesting but I also 
>>> found Angie's missing wedding ring. A year and a half ago we both 
>>> lost our wedding rings within 2 weeks of each other. For Christmas 
>>> we each got the other a new ring so now she's got both...
>>> 
>>> Anyway, gotta love a free fix.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Driving the CDI

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

On a long drive from coastal South Carolina to southern Ohio I had 33.4 with
my 2012 ML350 BT. It has about 90,000 miles on it now and purchased it the
end of January of 2022.

Bob Massmann

2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 4:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Driving the CDI

Driving the CDI today for its maiden voyage since being driven to Okie acres
from Florida. I probably need to do a coolant change and thermostat. Seemed
to me like it took a while to get up to temp and never went over 80 until I
started running the AC. Dash is showing around 36.5mpg. Can this be correct
or is that optimistic?

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Re: [MBZ] Crack rabbit

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Was looking for an 81 Rabbit to fix my 81 Rabbit pickup with a rusted out
shock tower, but may not be worth the effort. I have a second truck an 82
but have a dilemma of cutting up one to fix the other?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin
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Sent: Friday, December 23, 2022 9:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Crack rabbit

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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Looked at the listing photo and made me think of my first Mercedes a 240D
with stick shift. Someone decided that I didn't need hub caps and took all
four. At that time, I had trouble trying to replace them. Dependable ride,
but winters weren't much fun. I think I had it in the mid-80's, do not
remember what year it was?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT  91k
2002 BMW 525i   231K
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 9:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Looks nice

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Re: [MBZ] Color change CD

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I wonder what the hammer is for, bad starter comes to mind.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 9:09 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Color change CD

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[MBZ] For sale West of Cincinnati

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Do not need any more cars!

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/662450358946112

 

Bob Massmann

2012 ML350 BT

2002 BMW 525i

Oregonia, Ohio

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Re: [MBZ] I don't want strangers picking things out in my yard 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300d Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

The gold looks like a California with the different air cleaner position?

Bob Massmann

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby
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Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 6:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: [MBZ] I don't want strangers picking things out in my yard 1985
Mercedes-Benz 300d Sedan 4D, $2, 500

This is 2 cars,the station wagon has about 330,000 miles on it , something
came loose and it leaked out all the oil,we had it towed and never messed
with it again,then we bought another one we loved it so much,just the
regular car version and our 16 year old daughter wrecked it 2 days ago.The
engine has 189,000 miles on it.These would be great parts cars.I don't want
strangers picking things out in my yard,you have to buy both and get them
out of our yard should have a solid motor,maybe even 2,
transmissions,seats,wheels,tires,it's all there,both 1985 models.

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Re: [MBZ] The world is upside down as this would be a $300 car

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Does the manual transmission make it worth more? Always wished my 85 300CD
was manual instead of an automatic!

Bob Massmann

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2022 9:38 PM
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The world is upside down as this would be a $300 car

Black/black is almost unheard of on a W123.  Looks awesome.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:02 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> maybe $1000. see what it brings.. the bottom of bottom feeding has 
> moved up
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, 6:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E500 Wagon - 177k miles - $7,900

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Maybe they wanted the snow to slide off that portion of the roof?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via 
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Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2022 7:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curt Raymond 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E500 Wagon - 177k miles - $7,900

My house in Maine has a metal roof over the porch but asphalt over the rest. 
Apparently the porch had cedar shakes and as they got soft a racoon started 
making it's home in the porch through the soft shakes. The previous occupant 
got his brother (the home owner) to put a tin roof on the porch.

The asphalt on the house is adequate for now, at some point I'll have a tin 
roof put on. Fortunately in that area the Amish will do the job. They're fast 
and way cheaper than what I'd been quoted down here.

-Curt


On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 01:41:20 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Now that I look at that ad again I think it was posted a while ago. I remember 
thinking it was odd that the house had a metal roof over the porch and asphalt 
shingles on the rest of it.


On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, at 09:04, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks nice but way overpriced for the miles
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks pretty nice. Silver/gray though.
>> 
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-mercedes-e500-
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[MBZ] 700 Mercedes Cincinnati For Sale

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/821229945774575

 

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Re: [MBZ] TUTONE -- Solid 84 300CD. 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300d,$3,500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Missing a few pieces under the hood.

Bob Massmann

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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:03 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] TUTONE -- Solid 84 300CD. 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300d,$3,500

Looks like a realtor-turned-cop.  Just needs some blue and red lights

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Re: [MBZ] The Covid

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Sorry to hear that, only time it pays to be old, maybe?

Bob Massmann

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 10:57 AM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Covid

I just talked to my doctors office, they said they don’t prescribe that unless 
you are immunity compromised. So I guess I am SOL. 

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> On Nov 28, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My doctor phoned in a prescription for me. Was positive for covid 9-10 day 
> after testing positive. Never had a bad fever, a lot of ack and pains like 
> the flu.
> 
> Bob Massmann 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2022 8:48 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Covid
> 
> Well test was positive. I guess I need to see if I can get some of this stuff.
> 
>> On 11/27/2022 8:35 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> My son went to a walk-in urgent care place.
>> 
>> https://aspr.hhs.gov/COVID-19/Therapeutics/Products/Paxlovid/Documents
>> /paxlovid-information-sheet.pdf
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So where do you go to get this stuff? Urgent care, ER? Doctor office? What 
>> are the conditions they require to get it. What does it supposedly do?
>> 
>> Fever is higher today. I have to be careful with what I take since I’m on 
>> warfarin. I did take a couple of Tylenol though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2022, at 7:09 AM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com> via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Craig.
>> 
>> To be truthful, my wife is a cancer survivor. I’m not sure if one can ever 
>> be considered “cured” once you have it. That being said, I have her 
>> permission to use her diagnosis it when conditions require it, and this was 
>> one of those times I invoked the “Big C” as we call it.
>> 
>> The conditions the government requires for getting Paxlovid are stupid and 
>> unnecessary. There is tons of the stuff available and it should be handed 
>> out to anyone who is affected as required. It’s not like there’s a shortage 
>> or it’s extremely expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:50 PM, Craig 
>> mailto:diese...@pisquared.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:52:30 + "dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com> via 
>> Mercedes"
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was there and told the doc, “His mom is a cancer patient ..."
>> 
>> Dan,
>> 
>> I'm sorry to hear of your wife's cancer.
>> 
>> May she be healed quickly.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Covid

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My doctor phoned in a prescription for me. Was positive for covid 9-10 day 
after testing positive. Never had a bad fever, a lot of ack and pains like the 
flu.

Bob Massmann 

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2022 8:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Covid

Well test was positive. I guess I need to see if I can get some of this stuff.

On 11/27/2022 8:35 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My son went to a walk-in urgent care place.
>
> https://aspr.hhs.gov/COVID-19/Therapeutics/Products/Paxlovid/Documents
> /paxlovid-information-sheet.pdf
>
> -D
>
> On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> So where do you go to get this stuff? Urgent care, ER? Doctor office? What 
> are the conditions they require to get it. What does it supposedly do?
>
> Fever is higher today. I have to be careful with what I take since I’m on 
> warfarin. I did take a couple of Tylenol though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2022, at 7:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Craig.
>
> To be truthful, my wife is a cancer survivor. I’m not sure if one can ever be 
> considered “cured” once you have it. That being said, I have her permission 
> to use her diagnosis it when conditions require it, and this was one of those 
> times I invoked the “Big C” as we call it.
>
> The conditions the government requires for getting Paxlovid are stupid and 
> unnecessary. There is tons of the stuff available and it should be handed out 
> to anyone who is affected as required. It’s not like there’s a shortage or 
> it’s extremely expensive.
>
> -D
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:50 PM, Craig 
> mailto:diese...@pisquared.net>> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 02:52:30 + "dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes"
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> I was there and told the doc, “His mom is a cancer patient ..."
>
> Dan,
>
> I'm sorry to hear of your wife's cancer.
>
> May she be healed quickly.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 Lb-Feet Torque 2013 Mercedes GL350 BlueTec Diesel 4Matic- Under BlueTec Warranty! - $18, 850 (Charlotte NC)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My calculated average of total miles driven divided by total gallons purchase 
is 32.9 currently. 

Bob Massmann

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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 Lb-Feet Torque 2013 
Mercedes GL350 BlueTec Diesel 4Matic- Under BlueTec Warranty! - $18, 850 
(Charlotte NC)

Did you have calculate that? The electronic calculations on these are usually 
on the optimistic side. 

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> On Nov 19, 2022, at 5:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 2012 ML350 BT final electronic average was 33.4 MPG on 660 mile trip 
> South. Started on a full tank and made it to my destination without having to 
> stop for fuel. So I would believe the 27 MPG. My car had it's emission update 
> the end of December 2021, a month before I got the vehicle.
> 
> Bob Massmann
> 2012 ML350 BT
> 2002 BMW 525i
> Oregonia, Ohio
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 10:39 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 Lb-Feet Torque 
> 2013 Mercedes GL350 BlueTec Diesel 4Matic- Under BlueTec Warranty! - $18, 850 
> (Charlotte NC)
> 
> No way it averages 27, especially being a blue tec with the warranty done as 
> that lowers MPG. Our 08 pre blue tec gets 23-24 on the highway. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This Mercedes is currently under the Mercedes BlueTec Warranty until March 
>> 2023 or 143,000 Miles. The car has underwent the full Mercedes Update at 
>> 95,000 Miles including; New Nox/ PM Sensors, Software, and DPF Equipment.
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2013-mercedes-gl350-bluetec/7558739312.html
>> 
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>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 Lb-Feet Torque 2013 Mercedes GL350 BlueTec Diesel 4Matic- Under BlueTec Warranty! - $18, 850 (Charlotte NC)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My 2012 ML350 BT final electronic average was 33.4 MPG on 660 mile trip South. 
Started on a full tank and made it to my destination without having to stop for 
fuel. So I would believe the 27 MPG. My car had it's emission update the end of 
December 2021, a month before I got the vehicle.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 10:39 AM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this Diesel averages 27 MPG and has 455 Lb-Feet Torque 2013 
Mercedes GL350 BlueTec Diesel 4Matic- Under BlueTec Warranty! - $18, 850 
(Charlotte NC)

No way it averages 27, especially being a blue tec with the warranty done as 
that lowers MPG. Our 08 pre blue tec gets 23-24 on the highway. 

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> On Nov 18, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This Mercedes is currently under the Mercedes BlueTec Warranty until March 
> 2023 or 143,000 Miles. The car has underwent the full Mercedes Update at 
> 95,000 Miles including; New Nox/ PM Sensors, Software, and DPF Equipment.
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2013-mercedes-gl350-bluetec/7558739312.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Arab Kleb

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I watched my local Copart auction a week or two ago and was amazed at the 
variety of countries that were buying, Mexico, European countries, and Emirates 
of Arabia was one of them. I was trying to get a small Airstream trailer and 
the buyer's country was listed as Ukraine.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2004 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Arab Kleb

In Okieville that’s pronounced, “A-rab K-lab.”

AZBob

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> On Oct 9, 2022, at 7:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://youtu.be/kVGW5rXJias
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder how hard it is to assemble one of these?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I watch the homestead rescue program from time to time a one of the episodes
they assembled one sections are bolted together and then raised into
position. Then the next is raised and bolted to the next. I pick a calm day
to do it as they are light and flimsy until multiple unites are bolted
together. I imagine U tube would be the place to see the assembly process.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2004 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Subject: [MBZ] I wonder how hard it is to assemble one of these?

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 500SL - 78k miles - $3,000

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This car is about 25 miles from me, but not in the market for another car.

2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Subject: [MBZ] 1992 500SL - 78k miles - $3,000

One pic, no details. If seller can't put any effort into the ad, how much
effort did he put into caring for the car?

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/blanchester-sl-r129/7541931427.html
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Re: [MBZ] Ian Aftermath

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

That looks a lot like Charlestown SC after Hurricane Hugo. My Mother live in Mt 
Pleasant just across the river and she lived in condo that were on the causeway 
between Mt Pleasant and Sullivans Island ( a barrier island ). I went down to 
help recover personal stuff after the storm. There were boats in her parking 
lot and the pivoting bridge was off it mount hanging into the canal. High Water 
mark was 7-8 feet at the storage locker at ground level. It took a year and a 
half before she could move back into here place. She moved about a year later 
further away from the coast.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2004 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio 

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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 12:03 PM
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ian Aftermath

The inexorable rush of water reminds me of the 2011 Japanese tsunami but on 
steroids.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:14 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On 2022-09-29 15:28, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
> > Scary movie, rising water and vanishing buildings in Ft Myers 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al8yTiCVfro
>
> It wasn't just one guy in that house.
>
> https://twitter.com/MesoMax919/status/1575881405170880512
>
> Update on the people that were in the red house that floated away in 
> the timelapse video from Ft. Myers Beach…. They made it out and 
> somehow survived!
>
>  Yesterday we learned someone was in this house as it floated 
> away, we have now confirmed via family that the people somehow were 
> able to make it out alive even after floating away and hanging onto 
> trees, going into floating into other houses ect. https://t.co/zcJmLTmQYt
>  Max Olson  (@MesoMax919) September 30, 2022
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Re: [MBZ] This is just down the road from me

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Nice, and my 1985CD is wasting away.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 9:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] This is just down the road from me

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Re: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This is a very nice looking car, but as a diesel I would check that the oil
cooler seals aren't leaking, oil stain engine pan guard ( slide 155) and
what is the condition of the crank case vent assembly. If it is worn out
will let excess oil into the intake air stream and then combine EGR gases
and make a soggy mess. Been there done that.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: [MBZ] S Class Bluetec on Cars and Bids

Selling at NR.  Bargain or nightmare?

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjzNeYAx/2013-mercedes-benz-s350-bluetec-4m
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why....

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

May be a difference between submitting as TXT or HTML?

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 9:41 AM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why

Thanks!

I guess there’s the possibility that my mail client doesn’t show it when I get 
the message from the list, but in the past people have reported that they 
didn’t see the attachment. I probably did a drag and drop or paste into the 
body of the email, so in the future I’ll do things as an attachment.

-D

> On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I saw the attachment jpeg. It shows as a thumbnail in my email, but if I 
> click it it opens full-size.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, at 07:37, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> So can someone confirm that you see the image? I can see it on my end 
>> but that doesn’t mean anything, as it would be cached in my email 
>> client.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 8:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll try that - I’ve attached a screen shot of the listing to this message.
>> 
>> -D
>> [cid:F68804A0-D43F-427C-A432-4F3695E6B6D0]
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> okiebenz.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been able to post pictures here as attachements, but not "inline".
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022, at 15:39, dan
>> penoff.com>
>> via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, it’s in a private group. I would post a picture of the listing 
>> but for some reason I’ve never been able to post pictures to the group.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> e...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I click on the link it wants me to join "the group".  wtf.
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 3:32 PM dan
>> penoff.com>
>> 
>> via
>> Mercedes
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> okiebenz.com>>
>> wrote:
>> I was thinking about it as a BaT flip. I wonder what it would bring 
>> there….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> okiebenz.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe your inner Larry is coming out.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> kiebenz.com>
>> Sent: September 14, 2022 2:26 PM
>> To: 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> kiebenz.com>
>> Reply-to: 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> kiebenz.com>
>> Cc: 
>> d...@penoff.com> a...@penoff.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why
>> 
>> …but when I saw this I wanted it:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/55014806865
>> 97869/?sale_post_id=5501480686597869
>> 
>> It’s a purple 1996 Cadillac deVille with a 4.6l Northstar.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] No keys

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

That's all I needed at the dealership when I had to replace tumbler I the
1995 E300D that I had. I was trying to order on-line, but they wouldn't
match key and tumbler to car vin.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] No keys

But he says he has the title so it should be easy to get keys, right?


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401464992116681/


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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why....

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I saw the attachment, looked like a Cadillac 

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 8:19 AM
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Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why

I’ll try that - I’ve attached a screen shot of the listing to this message.

-D
[cid:F68804A0-D43F-427C-A432-4F3695E6B6D0]

On Sep 14, 2022, at 5:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I've been able to post pictures here as attachements, but not "inline".


On Wed, Sep 14, 2022, at 15:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
wrote:
Yeah, it’s in a private group. I would post a picture of the listing but for 
some reason I’ve never been able to post pictures to the group.

-D

On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

When I click on the link it wants me to join "the group".  wtf.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 3:32 PM dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:
I was thinking about it as a BaT flip. I wonder what it would bring there….

-D

On Sep 14, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:


Maybe your inner Larry is coming out.

Rick

From: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: September 14, 2022 2:26 PM
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mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] I Don't Know Why

…but when I saw this I wanted it:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/5501480686597869/?sale_post_id=5501480686597869

It’s a purple 1996 Cadillac deVille with a 4.6l Northstar.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Got to be a typo

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My 82 300D is that color need to get an engine back in it and get on the
road again. Not sure what the miles on it are?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got to be a typo

Pretty shade of blue.  Rare.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 4:29 PM mitch--- via Mercedes

wrote:

> 150kmi, front end damage (possibly bumper only?) and the reserve is 
> some number above $7600?
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Re: [MBZ] Tool Boxes

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I was lucky enough to get this Kennedy tool cart set, $350, when our company 
closed. It is a very robust unit with very strong sliding drawers. Have not had 
many other to compare it too, but if you find one on CL or Facebook MP I would 
get it.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW525i
Oregonia, Ohio 

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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 5:32 PM
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Cc: ml320@fiorentino.space
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tool Boxes

I bought one from Costco. I was impressed with the ball bearings, but it was 
missing a key. I negotiated a discount because of the key. The plus was that 
the company (Gladiator?) was part of Whirlpool, so they sent me a free key. The 
minus is that the thickness of the sheet metal is mostly paint, so dings easily.

I also have an old Craftsman that I found cheap on CL. Good Stuff.

Greg

> I’m still on the hunt for a good quality metal cabinet for the 
> Flagstaff garage with no success.
>
> Oldest son (who is out for some R) went with me on my weekly trip to 
> NAU’s surplus shop in hopes they might have something. Lots of nice 
> industrial strength metal shelving units, but no doors on them. They 
> also had a lot of really heavy duty lateral file cabinets, the tall 
> ones that are about 5’ 6” high, but that’s a less than ideal 
> approach, even if they’re only $35/each.
>
> I had hoped that maybe Costco would have something, but their choices 
> for garage storage are pretty pathetic. I guess the old rich white 
> people that frequent Costco don’t have a need for such things. 
> Sam’s has some, but they’re pretty pricey.
>
> I’ll just keep hunting…
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Costco have on occasion some very nice stainless steel roll about 
>> tool cabinets with butcher block tops. A bit pricey but appear to be 
>> very high quality. One of these days…
>>
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] ML350

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

If it is a diesel, Oil Cooler Seal Leak. At the dealer I was quoted $3600,
and that is if they do not find anything else.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 12:50 PM
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Cc: Frederick Moir 
Subject: [MBZ] ML350

2008 ML350. What do I look out for?
Thanks.
Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] ML350

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Reminds me of my BMW X3 I had; the sunroof was glued shut. Looked at ebay 
prices and they were 750-1500. I ended up getting a replacement from a 
pick-in-pull yard on a 50% off day. I think I only paid 60-70 dollars for the 
whole thing. Had to ask for help to get it out of the car and to load it into 
the van. The best thing about the one I got was it was a replacement, so it was 
fairly new. Yes it was a workout and hot a hell that day, but in the end was 
well worth effort, to me at least.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 1:59 PM
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Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML350

Yeah, just goes to show that even when you try to be as prudent as possible 
stuff can still get past you. That one is 100% on me, but like you, I don’t 
really care as I rarely, if ever, use a sunroof.

-D

> On Sep 2, 2022, at 10:48 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022, at 12:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> One thing I forgot - check the sunroof for proper operation. For some 
>> reason I glossed over this when I was inspecting mine, not sure how I 
>> did it, but I rarely use it anyway. The gearing on mine is toast, and 
>> it’s a complete assembly to replace if it’s failed. The part alone is 
>> nearly $1000, and I’m sure the labor is at least that much since the 
>> headliner has to be removed to R it.
> 
> That's the sort of thing I would use as leverage on the price, but 
> would not bother fixing. I don't really get the appeal of sunroofs and 
> almost never use them in my cars that have them.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 2015 ML350 Bluetec - 104k miles - $17,000

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I wonder if the emissions update has been completed or if it has the old oil
cooler seal issue, like what I experienced on my 2012 ML350 BT? I like my
interior better than the brown, my is black. It has the hitch package which
is a plus, is it OEM?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 9:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 2015 ML350 Bluetec - 104k miles - $17,000

"Four months back we replaced the serpentine belt and battery, and rear
bricks plates and rotors"


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Re: [MBZ] Classic Center retirement

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

When I was buy parts for my oil cooler repair and OE trailer hitch most of the 
time shipping was a flat $35. No matter if it was a single part or multiple 
parts. I also was a bit disappointed that not more parts for a certain area 
were limited and had to go somewhere else to find the seal number I needed. 
There are many dealerships that have web part purchase venues and purchase 
price does vary between dealerships. Some of my part purchases came from a 
Mercedes dealer in Akron, Ohio, they actually called for clarification on a 
superseded part.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
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Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 12:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Center retirement

I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a rip off. 
The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too much. 

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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the 
> dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference.
> 
> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the dealer in 
> most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, which certainly has 
> value.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible although 
>> some cars that come they might fit that description. All of my drivers are 
>> properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Andrew,

 

My AC was running the whole time as well! I do not understand people driving a 
Prius on the interstate with the windows open?

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel  
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

 

I drove a fully loaded GLK 250 through PA and OH and averaged 35.5 mpg, AC 
running constantly.  Not that much better.

 

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:21 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote:

Kaleb,



Copy of my gas tracking spread sheet is below. Moving average is total miles 
driven divided by total fuel consumed. Will slowly go lower as more miles are 
driven. The displayed MPG didn’t occur until the very end of the trip. The 
drive down b the numbers was 32.36 (656/20.27). drive home was 31.27 
(722/23.09). So we shall see as time goes on. Please note that I cleaned the 
accumulated soot from air path when I serviced the oil cooler seals and 
replaced the leaky PCV assembly.











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Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >
Cc: Kaleb Striplin mailto:ka...@striplin.net> >
Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT



I find it real hard to believe it really got that mileage. Would be real 
curious what it is hand calculated. About the best our GL will get us around 
22-23 and it’s not bluetec. A e class CDI might get that. I have heard those 
trip computers are sometimes optimistic. If it really did get that mileage that 
would be amazing. Hopefully it did and I am wrong. 



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> On Aug 28, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes < 
> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote:

> 

> Well I took my first real long trip in my newish ML that I got back 

> in January. Drove it down to Mt. Pleasant, SC outside of Charlestown 

> from the Northeast side of Cincinnati. Distance was approximately 670 

> miles. I was amazed that the average miles per gallon displayed was 

> 35.6 MPG, with over a

> 21 gallon tank I didn't have to stop for fuel and could go an 

> estimated

> 80-90 miles before having to refill the tank. Used cruise control most 

> of the time with a top cruise speed of 73 MPH. The ride and drive was 

> very easy in the ML, ride it still a bit stiff but comfortable and a 

> lot more comfortable than the 2004 BMW X3 that I had. The seats aren't 

> as nice as what is in my 2002 BMW 5 series. I wonder if there are 

> better seats in the GL series that could be swapped into the ML.

> 

> 

> 

> Just thought this would be an interesting tidbit.

> 

> 

> 

> Bob Massmann

> 

> 2012 ML-350 BT

> 

> 2002 BMW 525i

> 

> Oregonia, Ohio

> 

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Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

BlueTec

2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel 
via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

Gas or bluetec, Robert?

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 9:36 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I always do the numbers manually. I don’t trust the economy computers.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 28, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I find it real hard to believe it really got that mileage. Would be
> real curious what it is hand calculated. About the best our GL will 
> get us around 22-23 and it’s not bluetec. A e class CDI might get 
> that. I have heard those trip computers are sometimes optimistic. If 
> it really did get that mileage that would be amazing. Hopefully it did and I 
> am wrong.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 28, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well I took my first real long trip in my newish ML that I got 
> >> back in January. Drove it down to Mt. Pleasant, SC outside of 
> >> Charlestown from
> the
> >> Northeast side of Cincinnati. Distance was approximately 670 miles. 
> >> I
> was
> >> amazed that the average miles per gallon displayed was 35.6 MPG, 
> >> with
> over a
> >> 21 gallon tank I didn't have to stop for fuel and could go an 
> >> estimated
> >> 80-90 miles before having to refill the tank. Used cruise control 
> >> most
> of
> >> the time with a top cruise speed of 73 MPH. The ride and drive was 
> >> very
> easy
> >> in the ML, ride it still a bit stiff but comfortable and a lot more 
> >> comfortable than the 2004 BMW X3 that I had. The seats aren't as 
> >> nice as what is in my 2002 BMW 5 series. I wonder if there are 
> >> better seats in
> the
> >> GL series that could be swapped into the ML.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just thought this would be an interesting tidbit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob Massmann
> >>
> >> 2012 ML-350 BT
> >>
> >> 2002 BMW 525i
> >>
> >> Oregonia, Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

 

Copy of my gas tracking spread sheet is below. Moving average is total miles 
driven divided by total fuel consumed. Will slowly go lower as more miles are 
driven. The displayed MPG didn’t occur until the very end of the trip. The 
drive down b the numbers was 32.36 (656/20.27). drive home was 31.27 
(722/23.09). So we shall see as time goes on. Please note that I cleaned the 
accumulated soot from air path when I serviced the oil cooler seals and 
replaced the leaky PCV assembly.

 

 



 

 

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From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

 

I find it real hard to believe it really got that mileage. Would be real 
curious what it is hand calculated. About the best our GL will get us around 
22-23 and it’s not bluetec. A e class CDI might get that. I have heard those 
trip computers are sometimes optimistic. If it really did get that mileage that 
would be amazing. Hopefully it did and I am wrong. 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Aug 28, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes < 
> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 

> Well I took my first real long trip in my newish ML that I got back 

> in January. Drove it down to Mt. Pleasant, SC outside of Charlestown 

> from the Northeast side of Cincinnati. Distance was approximately 670 

> miles. I was amazed that the average miles per gallon displayed was 

> 35.6 MPG, with over a

> 21 gallon tank I didn't have to stop for fuel and could go an 

> estimated

> 80-90 miles before having to refill the tank. Used cruise control most 

> of the time with a top cruise speed of 73 MPH. The ride and drive was 

> very easy in the ML, ride it still a bit stiff but comfortable and a 

> lot more comfortable than the 2004 BMW X3 that I had. The seats aren't 

> as nice as what is in my 2002 BMW 5 series. I wonder if there are 

> better seats in the GL series that could be swapped into the ML.

> 

> 

> 

> Just thought this would be an interesting tidbit.

> 

> 

> 

> Bob Massmann

> 

> 2012 ML-350 BT

> 

> 2002 BMW 525i

> 

> Oregonia, Ohio

> 

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[MBZ] First Long Trip in 2012 ML-350 BT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I took my first real long trip in my newish ML that I got back in
January. Drove it down to Mt. Pleasant, SC outside of Charlestown from the
Northeast side of Cincinnati. Distance was approximately 670 miles. I was
amazed that the average miles per gallon displayed was 35.6 MPG, with over a
21 gallon tank I didn't have to stop for fuel and could go an estimated
80-90 miles before having to refill the tank. Used cruise control most of
the time with a top cruise speed of 73 MPH. The ride and drive was very easy
in the ML, ride it still a bit stiff but comfortable and a lot more
comfortable than the 2004 BMW X3 that I had. The seats aren't as nice as
what is in my 2002 BMW 5 series. I wonder if there are better seats in the
GL series that could be swapped into the ML.

 

Just thought this would be an interesting tidbit.

 

Bob Massmann

2012 ML-350 BT

2002 BMW 525i

Oregonia, Ohio

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[MBZ] Max Dillion Please Reply

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max, I change computers and do not have you contact information. Just wanted
to let you know that I will be in Mt. Pleasant for about a week visiting my
sister. Will be driving down there tomorrow in my ML 350 BT. May have time
to have lunch or something.

 

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Oregonia, Ohio

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

One of the things you get with the Mercedes trailer package is modification of 
suspension and stability systems software to help handle the heavier trailer 
load. It also modifies the rear car detection since you have added a trailer. 
All of this is automatic when the car detects the trail addition. I do not tow 
a heavy trailer currently but may in the future. There is also a change to the 
rear camera view, when you select trailer mode to help align trailer and hitch 
for hookup.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters

When I put the tow hitch on my Volvo, I bought a separate light controller for 
the trailer lights. It plugs into the car's factory wiring harness for the 
taillights, so no cutting or splicing wires, and has an independent power 
connection. It doesn't appreciably change the load on the car's lighting, so 
the "bulb-out" nannies are happy, and it handles LED or incandescent trailers 
fine as it's just supplying 12v signals. Mine has a 4-pin flat connector for 
the trailer.


On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, at 08:42, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Rick,
>
> That’s a straight adapter from 7 pin to 4/5 pin - I’ve got one. It 
> does nothing to allow the car to work with LED trailer lights, that’s 
> the issue. The “bulb out” feature of the car won’t play nice with LED 
> trailer lights, so there’s got to be an adapter to put the necessary 
> load on the circuits to “fool” the car into working with the LEDs.
>

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Re: [MBZ] 2013 ML350 Bluetec - 127k miles - $15,000

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I wonder where the other two cylinders went, 350 is a six cylinder car at
least mine is? Paid $20,000 for my 2012 with 86K miles in January of this
year and then had to replace the oil cooler seals, which is a real bitch to
do!

2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Allan Streib via
Mercedes
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 2013 ML350 Bluetec - 127k miles - $15,000

Nice looking black/black SUV.

Tow hitch barely visible. I wasn't sure so I checked the vin and it does
list option 550 TRAILER COUPLING.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/
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Re: [MBZ] As I am leaving St. Louis.

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I actually had, about $1000 dollars left after I bought the car back and made 
full repairs. Junk yard replacement parts which the insurance company would't 
permit? Insurance company was AAA at the time. Will see if I can find a photo 
of the damage. I remember having to get the car inspected after the work was 
completed and had to provide receipts of parts bought and repair work.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
BMW 525i
Oregonia

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 1:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] As I am leaving St. Louis.

Hit the other driver for the costs to put it back as it was. If the insco won’t 
do it, small claims court

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Aug 12, 2022, at 12:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In my experience, if the insurance company feels the damage will cost more 
> than about 70% of the value of the car, they just write it off. Any more than 
> that, and they are afraid that additional damage discovered after the work 
> begins will have the total claim exceeding the value of the car.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, at 10:47, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had a 95 E300D that I did front right damage to, and the insurance 
>> company wouldn't let me get it repaired. I bought it from them and 
>> then repaired and drove it for another 70K-80K miles.
>> 
>> Bob Massmann
>> 2012 ML350 BT
>> 2002 BMW 525i
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb 
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 10:46 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; 
>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] As I am leaving St. Louis.
>> 
>> An old bitch who does not need to be on the road managed to do this 
>> to my otherwise very clean e300.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] As I am leaving St. Louis.

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I had a 95 E300D that I did front right damage to, and the insurance company
wouldn't let me get it repaired. I bought it from them and then repaired and
drove it for another 70K-80K miles.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] As I am leaving St. Louis.

An old bitch who does not need to be on the road managed to do this to my
otherwise very clean e300. 



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Re: [MBZ] don't ask me if I still have it I will not answer don't ask me a million questions 2003 Mercedes-Benz sl-class Black, $4, 000

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

That looks like a lot of fun in a small package. Just have too many other
things to do?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 10:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: [MBZ] don't ask me if I still have it I will not answer don't ask
me a million questions 2003 Mercedes-Benz sl-class Black, $4, 000

For $2k this would be really tempting but I guess I shouldn't ask if he
still has it

No title no title selling for parts only only has $98,000 miles

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/761530058491828

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[MBZ] 1983 300 on Bringatrailer

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Do not really need the veg fuel option?

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300cd-turbo-16

 

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2012 ML350 BT

2002 BMW 525i

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Re: [MBZ] Needs oil cooler seals and rear air compressor 2007 Mercedes-Benz r320, $2, 800

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Below is the link that I posted to the MBWORLD forum under the 166 model
Mercedes. Many things need to be removed to get to the oil cooler seals,
fuel filter, engine air filters, air inlet air plenum to turbo, turbo to
turbo cooler pipe, turbo, turbo stand, left and right intake plenums, flap
control servo, and throttle body at the front of the engine. Oh, you also
have to drain engine coolant as well. Part cost wasn't too bad 200-250 for
replace parts. I the Mercedes quote was $3500. All work for the seals was
completed from the top and some sound/heat shielding needed to be removed
for better access to allow disconnecting the turbo from engine exhaust
piping.

https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-
leak-repair.html?highlight=2012+oil+cooler+leak

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Rick Knoble via
Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 11:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Rick Knoble 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Needs oil cooler seals and rear air compressor 2007
Mercedes-Benz r320, $2, 800

I believe a list member just did an oil cooler job on an SUV. Robert maybe?
On the R van looking thing, it would probably suck. Probably need to drop
the engine out the bottom and do it that way.

Got a lift?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: July 29, 2022 8:51 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Needs oil cooler seals and rear air compressor 2007
Mercedes-Benz r320, $2, 800

CDI - how bad is it?  Looks fairly nice

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 240D - 211k miles - $2,800

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Because of rust formation in the piston cylinder housing. It is a very close
fit and rust can propagate to point that the piston will be frozen in place
and no matter how much pressure you put on it will not move. Not a fun
problem to fix.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2022 8:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 240D - 211k miles - $2,800

How do all brakes fail from sitting?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Needs brakes redone -- calipers probably frozen from sitting. No 
> interior pics but exterior doesn't look bad.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420 - 126k miles - $3,500

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If didn't have covid, I would offer to go look at it for anyone that would
be interested, as I am about 20 miles away from it's location

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Allan Streib via
Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 11:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 1995 E420 - 126k miles - $3,500

Has a tow hitch -- I probably wouldn't pull anything too heavy with it but
would be good for a small utility trailer or bike rack.

What is a "Code 18" check engine light?

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/xenia-for-sale-mercedes/7511286264.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - $6,700

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That's what the salesman said when I was looking at my ML-350. One oil
cooler leak, one bad PCV, and two broken rear springs and now I have a very
nice car with less than a 100k miles on it. I am amazed still, how clean it
was for a 10 year old car?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML-350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Allan Streib via
Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 9:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - $6,700

Might not be a crazy price if there's nothing wrong with it. Check for black
death.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2007-mercedes-r320-cdi-dies
el/7509755920.html
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Re: [MBZ] PUT IN YOUR FUSES!!!

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Congratulations on finding the missing fuse.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail 
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:41 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: [MBZ] PUT IN YOUR FUSES!!!

I was going over the fuses and module for the ESP/BAS (or ABS, I forget) on the 
CL500 and found a missing 5A fuse for the ESP module and functions. Popped in a 
fuse and LO! the error disappeared. YAY ME!!!  I have no idea why the fuse was 
missing. 

Took it out for a drive, everything works, even got the trans switch to go to S 
from W it was stuck in. No more limp mode, no more insistent errors!!!  ESP was 
causing limp mode. AC BLOWS ICE COLD!!!

Still getting an error on the instrument panel for ABC, was throwing 2 codes 
for sensing load and something else but it is working ok so I’ll have to see 
what is unhappy. Probably have to put the fancy computer on it to figure out if 
it’s some particular module or sensor. One corner looks a bit low so maybe a 
sensor is not working. 

So anyway a free fix is a good fix!  Getting there with simple fixes. And the 
car is VERY fun!  YAY!!!

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 02CL500 adventures

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have fun and enjoy the challenges of getting a car back on the road. Have and 
82 300D that I bought off of Ebay and completed and engine swap, engine came 
with the car. And had to complete an engine swap on my vehicle back up a 2002 
BMW 525i sedan, nice riding car, but showing its age.

Good luck with your endeavor!

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes  On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 12:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: [MBZ] 02CL500 adventures

Car has only 106kmi.  I did a scan on it, nothing too serious popped up except 
as below with ESP.  Running OK but in trans limp mode so will need to get the 
ESP sorted.

Cleaned the car up, it was not too bad at all, a good vacuuming and wash got it 
looking better.  Will need a good paint buffing. Interior pretty clean, leather 
almost all quite good, one tear in the driver seat, will probably scrub the 
carpets at some point.  Console lid release is broken, will have to sort that 
out.  Plastic does not hold up well.  It has the seats that the bottom goes 
forward and makes a lot longer leg support, very comfortable.  The lumbar bags 
aren't working which I think is a common failure but could be a fuse or 
something. Not critical but would be nice to have.

Found a loose/bad power connection at the power point in the passenger 
footwell, got that organized so most of the power funkiness has been sorted out 
but there might still be some niggling issues, more to come. Battery is not 
draining now so that is encouraging.  The trunk lid release switch works 
intermittently as does the auto-lowering/raising windows when the door is 
opened and closed.  Windows work though.  I have not been through all the fuses 
yet.

Hydraulic suspension pumps now and holds, probably needed some exercising to 
clear out any goobers in the lines and struts, so that is good.  Still getting 
ABC error but that might go away, not clear why it should be there.  I might be 
able to clear it.

Has ABS and ESP errors which might be due to a bad module or connection, will 
take a look at that.  Might have another module, in any case they are available 
on eBay for $35 or so.

Fun times on a very cool complicated German car!  Not bad for $1500 now that I 
have some of the issues sorted and the remaining ESP thing doesn't look too bad.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes SEC in a Junk Yard

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I do not think the link made it into my previous message ( 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IehbHcooJU )


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2022 5:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes SEC in a Junk Yard

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Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

The package included a second engine, which I installed and then started 
driving, although I seem to remember that the transmission had to be replaced 
as well. I suppose one of these days I should try and rebuild the original 
engine and put it back in the car it came from. Retired, but that doesn’t 
really mean I have the time to put that in motion at the moment.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
Oregonia, Ohio


From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 7:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 
CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

And then what did you do?


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 7:01 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I had purchased a project car 1982 300D from someone that didn't have timer 
  top complete it. Previous owner had bought engine and interior parts from a 
  downer car, I got the complete package. Long story to the short, got the 
  engine swapped. The I dismantled the engine with the bad knock. Found the 
  the number (1) piston connecting rod bearing wore out. Whom ever had the 
  car, must have driven it a long time like that, because the bearing was 
  completely gone.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio
  2012 ML350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 4:25 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: dan penoff.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 
  320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

  Black Death.

  -D

  > On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > What could that be?  Injector?  Internals?
  >
  > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1353209435193614
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Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I had purchased a project car 1982 300D from someone that didn't have timer 
top complete it. Previous owner had bought engine and interior parts from a 
downer car, I got the complete package. Long story to the short, got the 
engine swapped. The I dismantled the engine with the bad knock. Found the 
the number (1) piston connecting rod bearing wore out. Whom ever had the 
car, must have driven it a long time like that, because the bearing was 
completely gone.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 4:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 
320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500


Black Death.

-D

On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


What could that be?  Injector?  Internals?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1353209435193614

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Re: [MBZ] $6K Repair or Different Vehicle

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I bought a 2002 BMW 525i from a charity auction that wasn’t too far away, 
couldn’t inspect before purchase. Paid $900 for it, 600 for the car and 300 to 
the charity. Got it home and found that the engine had a coolant leak into the 
oil. Car had been sitting about 6 months, so the engine was toasted, still 
turned, cam was quite rusted too. Bought a running replacement engine for $600 
plus $100 for shipping. Engine was sold as running, when it entered the yard. 
Engine hasn’t missed a beat since I got it on the road. Yes it was an effort, 
but it was more a test to see what I could do and it has been a very 
comfortable ride. Have driven it about 45,000 mile since the engine swap over 
the last 5 years.

I believe I would do it again if I had too. Just finished the oil cooler seal 
repair on my 2012 ML350 Bluetec, which was a scary thing to start on my nicest 
car.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 86K

From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 7:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $6K Repair or Different Vehicle

I have not started doing the YouTubing for those tasks. Tonight I will watch a 
couple of videos. 

 


 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 4:01 PM
To: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $6K Repair or Different Vehicle

 

What would it cost if you repaired it yourself?  Timing chain does not 

sound impossible. How hard is it to do the balance shaft?

If daughter does not love it, pass it on to junior?

 

Randy

 

 

 

On 17/03/2022 5:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> I would unload it if it were me. However, there are many variables in play 
> here, so that’s simply based on my situation. A $6k repair on an $8k car just 
> isn’t a good spend unless you’re prepared to drive it into the ground. And 
> that doesn’t consider any other potential repairs it might need as it ages.

>

> -D

>

> On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

>

> <4209759D50B8452CBC599ADAFCFF910E.png>

>

> Sent from Mail for Windows

>

> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 3:43 PM

> To: Mercedes Discussion List

> Cc: dan penoff.com

> Subject: Re: [MBZ] $6K Repair or Different Vehicle

>

> What’s the car worth without considering the repair cost? That’s the point of 
> reference I would be working off of.

>

> -D

>

> On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:

>

> Youngest’s 2014 Jetta, 1.8 T, 121K miles, had the red oil pressure alarm come 
> in the other day after she had driven it about ten miles and then let it idle 
> in a parking lot for about ten minutes. As soon as the alarm came in, she 
> shut it off and called me. At that point she had her things to do so it sat 
> for about three hours.

> When she came back out she checked the oil level (perfect) and ensured no 
> puddles were beneath it. She started the engine and it started and sounded 
> normal with no oil alarm light in. I told her to monitor the dash closely and 
> listen carefully as she drove home and if anything sounds amiss or the alarm 
> comes back in shut ‘er down.

> She made it home without mishap. I was going to check the oil  pressure and 
> start troubleshooting but I have way too much stuff going on right now, so I 
> took it down to a highly respected German shop (BMW, Mini, VW [no MB]) and 
> have them give it the once over.

>

> After having it for a day they reported back:

>

> “One scanned fault for low oil pressure plausibility and airmass sensor 
> fault. Smoke test reveals leak at upper timing cover gasket. Clamshell is 
> also leaking a bit of oil. Spool valve okay. Timing chain tensioner fully 
> extended 9 notches (spec is no more than 7 notches extended). Using Picoscope 
> measured cam/crank timing correlation and found camshafts are deviating 
> consistently further indicating timing chain stretch and worn timing 
> components. At idle, oil pressure is 22 psi (spec is 17-29 psi). At 2000 rpm, 
>34 psi (spec is 23-31). At 3700 rpm, 34 psi (spec 43-58 psi). This 
> indicated worn counter-balance shaft leading to the improper oil pressure 
> control.”

>

> Bottom line, $6.25K repair. I bounced this off of a couple other VW guys and 
> they said it looks/sounds reasonable.

>

> We’ve had the car since new. No deep-seated emotional attachment to it.

>

> Get it fixed or sneakily trade it in on something else?

>

> AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Out for Delivery?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I was a bit disappointed in FedEx. I was expecting a package delivery on 
Friday, which didn't arrive. Received notice that it would be delivered on 
Saturday, did not get delivered! It now is Monday, with a new notification 
of it to be delivered today by 8:00 pm. It wouldn't be so bad but for some 
reason it is indicating that a signature is required?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Out for Delivery?

Uh, DHL is essentially the German Post Office.

-D

On Mar 13, 2022, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I thought DHL had gone out of business.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 9:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

USPS here is perfect, I couldn't ask for better. I should ask our postman
his name, I usually refer to him as "The one eyed kid", you can probably
guess why.

If there are packages he comes around in the morning with a truck. He
walks the route in the afternoon with the envelopes.

-Curt


On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 07:48:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

USPS is a total crap shoot here. If it gets as close as a neighbor's
house, I consider myself fortunate.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Our Amazon drivers seem to be the best of the bunch around here - they
always leave the package where I specified - on the shelf beside the
front
door. UPS and Fedex are all over the place, including once leaving my box
at the intersection between our street and the joining one - 400 feet
from
our driveway. Amazon and USPS do the best, most consistent job here in
the
sticks.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 3:17 PM mitch--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Amazon drivers tend towards the sketchier end of the spectrum, somewhere
near pizza drivers.

Anyway, before there were such a thing as Amazon drivers, I pulled the
mower into the garage to find an Amazon box on the floor. Turned out to
be addressed to the neighbor.
Their mailbox doesn't say 519 on it, but mine was very clearly marked
515.
She'd already applied for a refund, after searching her garage, porch,
everywhere the package that was 'delivered to garage' could possibly be
hiding. I'm guessing it was Fedex Ground that did that.

On 2022-03-13 16:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah, that’s been a thing for some of the security automation for a
while. I’ve got a system (“MyQ”) I can monitor and control all of my
garage doors both in Florida and Flagstaff with and it has the ability
to give Amazon and others a one-time code to get in and drop off
packages. I could see it being of value if you had something large or
if you had issues with porch pirates, but I’ve never felt the need to
use it at this point.



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“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!

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Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

And to top it off. Somewhere along the repair process I broke the tee 
fitting on the injector fuel return line, darn! Mercedes only sells the 
whole assembly and the fitting I broke isn't available. Tried to get the 
broken piece out of the hose even that I haven't able to remove it yet from 
the hose?


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

I applaud your efforts. Not an easy job.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Yes I am still trying to finish the oil cooler seal replacement on my new 
to me 2012 ML350 diesel. I have the turbo back in and have to finish up 
connecting the exhaust down pipe to the back of the turbo. I may have to 
take the car to the dealer or a European indy to compete the second step 
after torqueing the (3) screws to ( 20 NM). Step two is tightening the 
screws and additional ( 90 degs ). These screws face the engine bulkhead 
and is under engine shielding. The top (2) are sort accessible but  third 
is on the bottom with very little access. Matter of fact I dropped the 
third screw and still need to find it. Below is the link to where been 
posting most of my photos of this project.


Things to Complete list
1) Install O2 probe at elbow of exhaust pipe
2) Install new CCV valve assembly
3) Install fuel rail to fuel rail connection line
4) Double check that all fuel injector supply nuts have been torqued
5) Install new fuel filter ( I will prefill filter with fuel )
6) Install charge air from turbo to front of engine and turbo intercooler
7) Reinstall injector return fuel line
8) Install air intake assembly that connects to the turbo. ( I purchased 
new seal for this joint )

9) Install all remaining electrical connectors
10) Install rear shield located behind turbo
11) Install new inlet air filters, left & right
12) Install the rest of the engine shielding
13) double check that all electrical and mechanical items
14) Install coolant that was drained from engine
15) test start engine ( May take several tries as fuel lines need to be 
recharged )



Link to Oil cooler seal replacement project: 
https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-leak-repair.html


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 87,000 miles
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[MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes I am still trying to finish the oil cooler seal replacement on my new to me 
2012 ML350 diesel. I have the turbo back in and have to finish up connecting 
the exhaust down pipe to the back of the turbo. I may have to take the car to 
the dealer or a European indy to compete the second step after torqueing the 
(3) screws to ( 20 NM). Step two is tightening the screws and additional ( 90 
degs ). These screws face the engine bulkhead and is under engine shielding. 
The top (2) are sort accessible but  third is on the bottom with very little 
access. Matter of fact I dropped the third screw and still need to find it. 
Below is the link to where been posting most of my photos of this project.

Things to Complete list
1) Install O2 probe at elbow of exhaust pipe
2) Install new CCV valve assembly
3) Install fuel rail to fuel rail connection line
4) Double check that all fuel injector supply nuts have been torqued
5) Install new fuel filter ( I will prefill filter with fuel )
6) Install charge air from turbo to front of engine and turbo intercooler
7) Reinstall injector return fuel line
8) Install air intake assembly that connects to the turbo. ( I purchased new 
seal for this joint )
9) Install all remaining electrical connectors
10) Install rear shield located behind turbo
11) Install new inlet air filters, left & right
12) Install the rest of the engine shielding
13) double check that all electrical and mechanical items
14) Install coolant that was drained from engine
15) test start engine ( May take several tries as fuel lines need to be 
recharged )


Link to Oil cooler seal replacement project: 
https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-leak-repair.html

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 87,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Andrew,

It will be interesting to see what they would say. My ML350 BT is covered by an 
extended warranty due pollution control settlement agreed upon by the EPA and 
Justice Dept . Any Bluetec diesel from 2009-2016 (OM 642 & OM 651) models are 
covered by the extended warranty, link to the warranty document is below. My ML 
350 had the pollution control updates completed just last December. So all the 
pollution control equipment will be covered for (4) years or 48,000 miles, 
whichever occurs first. It was interesting, I went back and reviewed the CARFAX 
report and there was now mention of the pollution control update when it was 
serviced at a Mercedes dealer in Kentucky just before it was put up for sale by 
Jeff Wyler outside Cincinnati.

It should be interesting to see, if I can get reimbursed for the CCV valve ( 
$160 item ) that I am replacing during my oil cooler leak fix, it is the last 
item in the list that is covered by the extended warranty. 

warranty-extension-covered-components.pdf (mbusa.com)



Bob Massmann

2012 ML350 BT


From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 12:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Might want to share this info with MBNA.


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  Photos of the soot that was collected from my 2012 ML. I would guess that 
  the crankcase vent was not performing very well making the soot very sticky. 
  First photo is what was collected from the left intake manifold, air/EGR 
  mixer box after throttle body, and then the right intake manifold. Just for 
  grins I combined and weighted the material, 1.5 oz short of a full lb. I 
  will be replacing the PVC assembly when I start putting things back 
  together.

  Regards,

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:03 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Here are more photos of repair progress. I am currently in the cleaning
  process oil and soot buildup in the air intakes and mixer assembly after the
  intercooler. This is a very messy part of the job!

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML 350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
  To: Okie Benz
  Cc: dan penoff.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

  -D

  > On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  >  wrote:
  >
  > This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be
  > removed to get at the buried oil cooler.
  >
  > 1) left and right air filters
  > 2) engine bay shielding
  > 3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
  > 4) tube from turbo to intercooler
  > 5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
  > 6) fuel filter
  > 7) fuel interconnection tube
  > 8) turbo
  > 9) Turbo rizer
  > 10) EGR flap servo
  > 11) Right intake manifold
  > 12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone, but
  > it may need to be cleaned as well )
  >
  > With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?
  >
  > Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one
  > more screw to remove.
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
  > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  > Cc: Floyd Thursby
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )
  >
  > My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
  > EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
  > a fairly easy job on that car though.
  >
  > --FT
  >
  > On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
  >> More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX
  >> emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In
  >> manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".
  >
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

BSME, working as a machine tool designer and spindle design engineer for a 
major machine tool company in the Cincinnati area. Have always loved 
mechanical things and trying to figure out how they work and are put 
together. Happily retired in 2020 after 43 years in the industry.


Bob Massmann
ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 10:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Solid work. I'm always impressed when a home gamer takes on one of these big 
jobs.


-Curt



On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 09:37:56 AM EST, Robert Massmann via 
Mercedes  wrote:


Well I have finally gotten to the oil cooler on my ML. Didn't break
anything, but only had trouble with one screw. It was part of the exhaust
fasteners and are one time use and need to be replaced. Currently before
removing the oil cooler I will cover the turbo stand position and clean all
the soot from the intake ports. I will be trying to clean intake manifolds
as well as the EGR assembly at the front of the engine after the
intercooler. The mixture of oil from the PCV valve and exhaust is a very
messy mix. Once the cleaning is complete, I will start putting things back
together. I have tried to put as many of the fasteners as I can back into
the same holes so I have them in their correct location.

Bob Massmann
ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Seriously ouch

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Feb 18, 2022, at 12:50 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
 wrote:

Mercedes Dealer gave me a quote of $3600 to complete the repair, ouch!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

-D


On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
 wrote:

This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be
removed to get at the buried oil cooler.

1) left and right air filters
2) engine bay shielding
3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
4) tube from turbo to intercooler
5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
6) fuel filter
7) fuel interconnection tube
8) turbo
9) Turbo rizer
10) EGR flap servo
11) Right intake manifold
12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone,
but it may need to be cleaned as well )

With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?

Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one
more screw to remove.

-Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
a fairly easy job on that car though.

--FT


On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".


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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Mercedes Dealer gave me a quote of $3600 to complete the repair, ouch!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

-D

On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be 
removed to get at the buried oil cooler.


1) left and right air filters
2) engine bay shielding
3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
4) tube from turbo to intercooler
5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
6) fuel filter
7) fuel interconnection tube
8) turbo
9) Turbo rizer
10) EGR flap servo
11) Right intake manifold
12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone, but 
it may need to be cleaned as well )


With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?

Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one 
more screw to remove.


-Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
a fairly easy job on that car though.

--FT

On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX 
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In 
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".


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Re: [MBZ] The Jewel

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I wonder if you could swap in a 2.5 turbo engine from 87 190 that I have?

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 7:56 PM 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Bob Rentfro 
Subject: [MBZ] The Jewel 



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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have used an extension to my ratchet on several of the bolts, but they 
were all at the turbo to exhaust connection.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Strong work!


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 15, 2022 10:15 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 BT. 
I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job with 
limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In the 
process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers the 
intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of soot 
buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold that I 
could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 1. I did 
see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the transferee 
tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation valve while 
I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. Car has about 
87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I can remove the 
turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I believe I will being doing a lot of cleaning before things start going 
back together. I have seen, U tube videos of them burning the soot out of 
the intake manifolds, but fear that may warp things very badly. I will had 
scrap with solvents to try and clear it.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX 
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In 
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".



Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 15, 2022 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rbenn...@bennell.ca
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Is the soot the result of not driving it hard enough? Short trips, in
town etc.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have working on it for about 4 days and may spend 4-5 hours each day. 
Spent about 2 hours to get one exhaust to manifold bolts out. I believe the 
tip threads were rusted being exposed to nature, slowly worked it out 
without braking it. Have one more screw before I can lift the turbo out. But 
need to buy an extended Torx to get to it.  The only place this soot or what 
ever it is, is coming fro the crankcase vent valve EGR system. I guess it is 
a mixture?


I think I should replace it ( PCV ) valve assembly?

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

The wife’s R320 has been sitting for 2 years waiting on me to work up the 
nerve to do this job.


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On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K







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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I just purchased this the middle of January. I believe I am the third owner. 
If you average the mileage it was only drive approximately 8000-9000 miles 
per year.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:31 AM
To: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Is the soot the result of not driving it hard enough? Short trips, in
town etc.

Randy

On 15/02/2022 10:14 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K




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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Assembled here in the USA!

Bob Massmann

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Robert, is this a German or US made Bluetec SUV?


On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:15 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 BT. I 
am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job with 
limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In the process 
I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers the intercooled air 
to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of soot buildup the second 
photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold that I could reach and haven’t 
touched the assembly that is shown in photo 1. I did see some oil in the inlet 
to the turbo intake side as well as the transferee tube to the intercooler. May 
just replace crankcase ventilation valve while I have things apart. The 
exterior of this valve is quite oily. Car has about 87K miles on it. I have 
three more screws to remove before I can remove the turbo, one of which I can 
not see.

  Will try and give an update in a day or two.

  Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am wonder how that accumulation affect the performance of the pollution 
control and if it is still working effectively?


-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

WOW!  That is crazy the amount of gunk in there.

--FT
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On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K







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Re: [MBZ] Sad

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

There was a photo of the engine bay. Was wondering how much of is could be 
used in my 85 300CD, that isn't running because of low compression?


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2022 12:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sad

I didn't see a photo of the engine bay to determine whether it's the
desirable 49 state version...

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:54 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 7:21 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

> If you'd been paying full coverage insurance on it for years, how much
> would you ask for when the insurance company wanted to total it?

I don't carry full coverage on a car worth a few thousand dollars, for
exactly that reason.


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[MBZ] New ML350 Bluetec and Cold Starting

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well is was ‘9’ this morning and I had the new ML sitting outside. It has 
warmed to 15 and I decided to see how it would start. It may have glowed a 
little longer, but started just fine. I was wonder though how long I should 
have it ideal before I start do driving it? I have had very cold starts with my 
95 E300D, but it warming it up was more about the getting the windshield clear 
and defrosted than getting the engine up to a safe driving temperature.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 86K
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I had my new ML350 health checked today at the Mercedes dealer. On bad 
thing was found and I didn't really see it when I looked at the 
undercarriage. They say the seals of the oil cooler is leaking and is 
draining down the side of the engine to the undercarriage panels. I have 
looked at several YOUTUBE videos and it is a bit of work to complete. The 
oil cooler is located in the vee between the heads and many things on top of 
the engine need to be removed down to the 2 intake manifolds. Apparently 
this a weak point and the oil seal begin to flatten and leak due the higher 
operating temperature of the engine. So I will not be doing any long trips 
until this gets fixed. Mercedes wants $3600 do complete the repair, seals 
are only very small part of the cost. Between completing and engine swap on 
BMW 5 series and changing a starter on BMW X3 which required disconnecting 
the intake manifold, and replacing head gaskets, I think I should be able to 
complete the repair. Not the thing I wanted to hear, but better to know 
thank not to?


Bob Massmann
2012 Mercedes ML350 Bluetec 86K


-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

If the car doesn’t have towing setup you will have to try to add the nanny 
and get a new controller happy. It is not easy. The brake and stability 
controllers and the lights will not be happy without the tow nanny.


--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I miss his words of wisdom. “There is only one way to drive a Mercedes 
like you stole it!”


Bob Massmann

From: Rick Knoble
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 11:15 AM
To: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I would like to get a hitch on it to tow our popup camper.The trailer 
wiring is going to be an issue. The computer that controls the lighting 
(EVERYTHING is controlled by a computer on that SUV) is not going to like 
any changes. It would be best to inquire about that on the main list. I 
know NOTHING about Mercedes newer than 2008 or so. Geeze. The caps look 
like I'm channelling Marshall Booth. Enjoy!

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I miss his words of wisdom. “There is only one way to drive a Mercedes like you 
stole it!”

Bob Massmann 

From: Rick Knoble 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 11:15 AM
To: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

> I would like to get a hitch on it to tow our popup camper.The trailer wiring 
> is going to be an issue. The computer that controls the lighting (EVERYTHING 
> is controlled by a computer on that SUV) is not going to like any changes. It 
> would be best to inquire about that on the main list. I know NOTHING about 
> Mercedes newer than 2008 or so. Geeze. The caps look like I'm channelling 
> Marshall Booth. Enjoy!
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

All I had a very nice ride home, but was a bit nervous drive my brand new car 
in track. The new car does have the vehicle collision avoidance warning 
indication for changing lanes which is nice. It has navigation, heated seats, 
retractable side mirrors, and other things that I have not discovered yet. The 
bad news is NO operators manual. It is no where to be found, unless it has a 
special storage compartment that I haven’t found. I did find a PDF copy of it 
on MBUSA web site, I have downloaded and am starting to review. Will let you 
know how things are going after I have driven it for awhile. Have schedule a 
general car inspection at our local Mercedes dealer to make sure there are no 
issue with the car,  fingers crossed. This car requires DEF, so should be 
interesting to see how often that needs to be refilled. Car has a little over 
86,000 miles on it.

Hope all goes well?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 86K  

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Robert, please monitor your fuel economy and post it.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 10:28 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should 
  be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the 
  X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a 
  learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip 
  North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:30 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
  diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
  were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
  page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
  24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
  considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
  I really do not like white.

  Bob Massmann

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
  > Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
  > all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
  > 86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
  > goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
  > funds transfer for purchase this week.
  >
  > Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
  > new learning experience.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Robert Massmann
  >
  >
  > I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
  > and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
  > alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope
  >
  > From: Andrew Strasfogel
  > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  > To: Mercedes Discussion List
  > Cc: Robert Massmann
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes
  >
  > Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
  > dealer should include new tires and brakes.
  >
  >
  > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
  > and
  >  look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
  > from
  >  the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.
  >
  >
  > 
https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm
  >






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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should 
be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the 
X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a 
learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip 
North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

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From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
I really do not like white.

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
funds transfer for purchase this week.


Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.


Regards,
Robert Massmann


I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope


From: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.



On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
and
 look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from

 the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm









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Re: [MBZ] Class Action Suit relating to Bluetec issues?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I may have read that Mercedes had to update emission software similar to the 
issue VW had, only not to the extent that VW did.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:02 PM
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Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: [MBZ] Class Action Suit relating to Bluetec issues?

Is there a class action suit against Mercedes relating to the Bluetec
vehicles in the USA?

The fellow that I had posted about a month or so ago in British Columbia
who was having all sorts of issues with his, has just received notice
that some of his issues will be addressed due to the settlement of a
class action suit in Canada.

He is not impressed and says he will likely not purchase any more Mercedes.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many 
diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and 
were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web 
page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at 
24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also 
considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and 
I really do not like white.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
funds transfer for purchase this week.


Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.


Regards,
Robert Massmann


I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope


From: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.



On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
and
 look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from

 the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm









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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

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Would still like to get the 1985 300CD that I have back on the road. Stopped 
driving due need for and engine rebuild. Maybe one of these since I have 
retired.

Bob Massmann

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:57 AM
To: Robert Massmann 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Way to step up Robert. These are awesome cars, among the best Mercedes ever 
made.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 9:59 AM  wrote:

  Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. Market 
is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included all of the 
taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 86,000 miles. The 
last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it goes will picking the 
car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my funds transfer for purchase 
this week.

  Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.

  Regards,
  Robert Massmann  


  I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and alignment. 
More option for bargaining I would hope

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
  Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
  Cc: Robert Massmann 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.


  On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down and 
look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from 
the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down and 
look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car from 
the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 5:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I did seller for CARFAX report since the car had a dealer tag on it.

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 5:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Maybe. Sometimes in a photo, shadows and reflections can look like dents --
that said, if you're shopping for 8-10 year old cars it is going to be rare
to find one without a ding or scratch somewhere.

Good question about the engine cover, maybe removed for the photo but
certainly would be a question for the seller.



On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

When I went back and looked over the photos again, it looked like there
might be a ding in the bumper drivers side. I also would be lire with 
engine

compartment missing all its cover?

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 1:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

It's a Blutec, so it has a DPF, I don't know if it's possible to evaluate
the condition of those but that would be my concern if everything else
checks out. If it got regular long-ish highway trips it probably had
adequate opportunity for the "regen" cycles to complete. If it was used
mostly for in-town, short trips I'd be more cautious.

Then you need to consider *your* driving routine. If this is a car that 
will

mostly be driven short trips for shopping and work maybe diesel isn't the
best option. If you'll be doing regular longer fast highway runs, it could
be great.

Allan

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

I found this one about 50 miles from me in Columbus Ohio. Need to see a
CARFAX report before I look?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/7421132068.html

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i
1982 Mercedes 300D none running
1985 Mercedes 300CD none running

-Original Message----- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D
because is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles.
I
am looking at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a
diesel
car but it is not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would
be?
I do like to camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may
upgrade to larger enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one
vehicle thus far a 2015 ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has 
most

of the options. They are asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real
big
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I did seller for CARFAX report since the car had a dealer tag on it.

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 5:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Maybe. Sometimes in a photo, shadows and reflections can look like dents --  
that said, if you're shopping for 8-10 year old cars it is going to be rare 
to find one without a ding or scratch somewhere.


Good question about the engine cover, maybe removed for the photo but 
certainly would be a question for the seller.




On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

When I went back and looked over the photos again, it looked like there
might be a ding in the bumper drivers side. I also would be lire with 
engine

compartment missing all its cover?

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 1:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

It's a Blutec, so it has a DPF, I don't know if it's possible to evaluate
the condition of those but that would be my concern if everything else
checks out. If it got regular long-ish highway trips it probably had
adequate opportunity for the "regen" cycles to complete. If it was used
mostly for in-town, short trips I'd be more cautious.

Then you need to consider *your* driving routine. If this is a car that 
will

mostly be driven short trips for shopping and work maybe diesel isn't the
best option. If you'll be doing regular longer fast highway runs, it could
be great.

Allan

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

I found this one about 50 miles from me in Columbus Ohio. Need to see a
CARFAX report before I look?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/7421132068.html

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i
1982 Mercedes 300D none running
1985 Mercedes 300CD none running

-Original Message----- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D
because is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles.
I
am looking at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a
diesel
car but it is not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would
be?
I do like to camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may
upgrade to larger enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one
vehicle thus far a 2015 ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has 
most

of the options. They are asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real
big
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

When I went back and looked over the photos again, it looked like there 
might be a ding in the bumper drivers side. I also would be lire with engine 
compartment missing all its cover?


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 1:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

It's a Blutec, so it has a DPF, I don't know if it's possible to evaluate 
the condition of those but that would be my concern if everything else 
checks out. If it got regular long-ish highway trips it probably had 
adequate opportunity for the "regen" cycles to complete. If it was used 
mostly for in-town, short trips I'd be more cautious.


Then you need to consider *your* driving routine. If this is a car that will 
mostly be driven short trips for shopping and work maybe diesel isn't the 
best option. If you'll be doing regular longer fast highway runs, it could 
be great.


Allan

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

I found this one about 50 miles from me in Columbus Ohio. Need to see a
CARFAX report before I look?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/7421132068.html

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i
1982 Mercedes 300D none running
1985 Mercedes 300CD none running

-Original Message----- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D
because is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles. 
I
am looking at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a 
diesel
car but it is not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would 
be?

I do like to camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may
upgrade to larger enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one
vehicle thus far a 2015 ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has most
of the options. They are asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real 
big

hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I found this one about 50 miles from me in Columbus Ohio. Need to see a 
CARFAX report before I look?


https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/7421132068.html

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i
1982 Mercedes 300D none running
1985 Mercedes 300CD none running

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D 
because is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles. I 
am looking at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a diesel 
car but it is not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would be? 
I do like to camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may 
upgrade to larger enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one 
vehicle thus far a 2015 ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has most 
of the options. They are asking 19,700 for it.


So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real big 
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.


I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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[MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D because 
is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles. I am looking 
at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a diesel car but it is 
not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would be? I do like to 
camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may upgrade to larger 
enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one vehicle thus far a 2015 
ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has most of the options. They are 
asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real big 
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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[MBZ] Merry Christmas Greeting

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New to all on the Diesel Exchange

>From the Massmanns
Oregonia, Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Near me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I completed an engine swap on a 2002 BMW 525i that I had bought in an 
auction, replacement was sold as a running engine out of a 325 series car. I 
guess, I got most everything done right. Have been driving it for at least 5 
years now. No issues with the replacement engine. Previous engine had 
coolant leak into the oil and the car sat for about 6 months, cam was badly 
rusted on top.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 3:53 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Near me

Needs a new engine, would be lots of work to sort out what's in there,
and worse since you don't know what happened to it.  Be easier to just
drop in a replacement if you could find one from a knacker.  Price is
too high though for a car with a bad engine.

I also see this

Old Cotton Warehouse
$59,000

listed https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3136855109966003 below
that ad, I need to move to Midville, GA and take all my cars and
impedimenta with me.  It's actually not too far from where I am now.
Looks like there might be a place to live in it too!  WOOOWOOO!

--FT


On 12/10/21 3:28 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
I saw this listed in Facebook Market Place. Maybe someone may be 
interested? I was thinking about but not quite sure I would be up to the 
repair job. There may be more damage than he is saying. Pistons and valve 
need to stay out of each others way or bad things happen on some engine 
design. Not sure if this is the case?


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/675693720086307



2010 Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec



About This Vehicle

Driven 128,444 miles

Automatic transmission

Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige

Fuel type: Diesel

17.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined

This vehicle is paid off



Seller's Description

Diesel engine, timing chain jumped, and broke the camshaft. Needs upper 
engine work.

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[MBZ] Mercedes Near me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I saw this listed in Facebook Market Place. Maybe someone may be interested? I 
was thinking about but not quite sure I would be up to the repair job. There 
may be more damage than he is saying. Pistons and valve need to stay out of 
each others way or bad things happen on some engine design. Not sure if this is 
the case?

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/675693720086307



2010 Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec



About This Vehicle

Driven 128,444 miles

Automatic transmission

Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige

Fuel type: Diesel

17.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined

This vehicle is paid off



Seller's Description

Diesel engine, timing chain jumped, and broke the camshaft. Needs upper engine 
work. 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My neighbor had a red 1966 covetable, I didn't get to ride in it but it was 
a very nice looking car.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 8:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

Would be worth at least $70K with an original Becker radio

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


Yes, you'd look good cruising in that!

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 6:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 1965 Mercedes Benz 230SL
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The scam that is ebay

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Several years ago, I purchased a car from boatangel ministers, I was the 
second highest bidder and the winning bidder reneged on the deal. The 
sellers gave me and asked if I want to purchase the vehicle as the second 
highest bidder. I am not sure what they did to accomplish this, but I ended 
up with the car at my original bid amount. Just for your info, not sure how 
things are handled these days.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 12:34 PM
To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes ; davesl...@okiebenz.com ; Floyd Thursby via 
Okietalk

Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] The scam that is ebay

So ran this ML again which ended last night at over $3k.  Just like the
first time, no response from high bidder.  It has not yet been 24 hours
but I am not holding my breath.  After doing a little research on the
ebay forums, come to find out, in vehicle auctions the deadbeat bidder
does not even get an unpaid item strike as they consider these auctions
non binding.  WTF?  There is absolutely no way to hold these buyers
accountable at all.  Not only that, you have to pay each time to relist
it.  Maybe this is a sign I should just keep the thing, or maybe try a
listing instead of an auction.


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Re: [MBZ] Old people problems

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I think I am due next year, I have the gen and I have them once every three 
years. Do not remember much of anything afterwards?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 10:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; okiet...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] Old people problems

It’s that season of life, tomorrow morning is colonoscopy time. For the 
other old farts on this list, I’m sure you know how today will be going for 
me.


Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Nice looking 240D for sale in the Dayton, Ohio area

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Just thought someone might be interested on Facebook Market Place?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/255506636476130

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1985 300CD
1982 300D
1981 VW Pickup
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[MBZ] Mercedes 1978 300CD local to me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have my own. but maybe someone else may be interested. Listed on Facebook 
market place Dayton Ohio. 
“https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1630438840494221”

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
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[MBZ] Don't see these too often, 1978 300CD

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have my own 1985. but maybe someone else may be interested.

Listed on Facebook market place Dayton Ohio.

“https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1630438840494221”

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 



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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap into 
it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled, when it had 
gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or kept it in the 
first place.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 
Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html

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Re: [MBZ] '95 diesel on BAT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

And to think that I sold mine for $700, but mine needed a lot of TLC and in 
had almost 750,000 KM on the clock. As I remember it was still getting 31-32 
mpg. It was a very comfortable car unlike the BMW X3 that I am driving now 
that has a very stiff suspension. I also have a BMW 525I that is a very 
comfortable ride in comparison. All of which I hope to replace with a newer 
diesel Mercedes?


-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 2:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] '95 diesel on BAT

This could be interesting.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-e300-diesel-17/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-04-15
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This showed up in the similar list, at half the price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/281799176806340

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 10:58 AM 
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this 


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/271486687928438/


Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Nice SL 500 hard Top

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

1991 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL - Cars & Trucks - Cincinnati | Facebook Marketplace | 
Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/194251678779094

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Re: [MBZ] Made it back with the CD

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Especially with ice. Did you see the pileup on I-35 in Fort Worth. It was a 
real mess,  6 deaths!


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Made it back with the CD

It can get bad out there in the winter

--FT
Sent from iPhone

On Feb 11, 2021, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Rolled back into Okie Acres a little while ago with the CD. After picking 
it up Sunday I worked in Lubbock for the next couple of days and left 
Wednesday morning.  Most of the time I was there the temps were in the 
70's.  When we left of course there was freezing fog all the way thru west 
texas.  Temp never got over about 25 and on roads that are normally 80mpg 
we were averaging about 60-65, so it took quite a while longer.  We 
stopped at the half way point for the night and finished the trip today.



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Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes I am. BSME 1977 from Ohio Northern University. Worked large machine tool 
industry throughout my career. Most of my time was spent with Cincinnati 
Milacron. Finally retired in in 2020.


I could create a stripped version of the excell file if needed, might take a 
day or two?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

That is sweet. I can make one, put it on Dropbox, Google drive, or Microsoft 
cloud, and Bob's my uncle, no pun intended. BTW, are you an engineer?


Thank you!

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 11, 2021 10:30 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

I use an excell sheet to track my fuel and maintenance for each car I drive.
I have extra columns for keeping track of when I need to do several of the
regular maintenances as oil change  and fuel and oil filters. I also track
miles per gallon trend total gallons used along total fuel purchases. See
attached graphics screen capture.

Regards,

B Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: G Mann via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

I use the written log book method.
Short of a car fire, it is always available and in the car.
I find the bound composition books [dollar store has them for a buck] works
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Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes, I do not live far from there. Do not visit very often, but have been 
there. It is only about 6 miles form my house. Originally lived in 
Wilmington and move to my current address about 13 years ago. Love it out in 
the country!


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Oh

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:53 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

You’re not far from Fort Ancient, a park that we visited regularly when I 
was a child. Lots of good memories there.


-D

On Feb 11, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I use an excell sheet to track my fuel and maintenance for each car I 
drive. I have extra columns for keeping track of when I need to do several 
of the regular maintenances as oil change  and fuel and oil filters. I 
also track miles per gallon trend total gallons used along total fuel 
purchases. See attached graphics screen capture.


Regards,

B Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio



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[MBZ] My first car

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My first car was a 1968 Camaro, looked a lot like this on bring a trailer. Mine 
had 327 V8 with factory four speed. Paint was a light metallic green. It also 
had the SS detail package with factory gauge package. Bought it when I was in 
the Navy in 1972. It had been wrenched at some point. Only sold it for about 
2500. Would be worth a lot more now, if only I new. Replaced it with Mazda RX-3 
wagon, because I was fly radio control gliders, which was kind of hard to 
transport in two door coup.

See link below.

(Lot #42,596) 
(https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-chevrolet-camaro-75/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-02-02)
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