[MBZ] 230E
There are two 230Es for sale currently! Who da thought! I was inadvertently referring to the one on Ebay (Item #180538514591) in northern NJ, and I now see the one Curt and Dwight saw in Rhode Island. The ebay one is an automatic and appears in beautiful shape but is also a little pricier. The 5-speed in Newport that 'needs work' may be worth a look. But there is a caveat: I had a 1985 201 2.3L six or seven years ago... until the engine seized. I think MB had some trouble with the 2.3L, and the 2.6L was a preferred power plant. You may want to research that further. Tom Message: 5 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:39:05 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 230E Message-ID: 000601cb30a4$fb810ea0$f2832b...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's interesting Tom-I have never seen one myself. Maybe we could start a new award category at the NE chowdah fest-rarest MB-That one would put Curt in the running. Curt-maybe you could look at it tomorrow when you come to pick up the 240D. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 56, Issue 131
Hi Curt, In real life I run a residential facility for male adolescents. I started a car donation fund-raiser about 6 years ago. We have gone through a ton of cars since then, and we were given a 1984 230E a few years back, a project car, that was very cool. It wasn't running--- althought I could get it to backfire and needed a tuneup badly. I ended up selling it to some Guatamalan gearheads from Danbury CT. We now have a hobby shop to work on the donated cars and I only wish we had it back then. It was a Euro spec, like the one on ebay- because MB was only importing diesels at the time. Very rare. That ebay car is a beauty. As a 4 cylinder it is probably a little under powered, but should deliver decent mileage. I believe it is the same engine used in the 201 chassis the 2.3L... so you should be able to get replacement parts for it. Gas mileage would be similar to the 201, I would think, adjusted for the probably heavier W123 chassis. Not a diesel, and not diesel mileage, of course, but a very unique car on this side of The Pond. You would probably own the only gas W123 in Massachusetts. Maybe New England. Anyone know of any others? Since I want to STAY married, I can't be buying any more cars... but that is one I'd love to have. Angie would love it. So would Buster, btw. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all the BMWs Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 230E? Message-ID: 143916.83124...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doesn't somebody on the list have a 230E? Theres a Euro 230E 5spd on Craigslist that looks pretty nice. The ad says it needs stuff like shocks, seems like those are probably the same across the 123 line. My 240D did 28mpg long term (7 years) mix of highway and city so if a 230E was capable of the mid 20s it'd be good enough considering gas being cheaper than diesel... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat
Yes-ditto. It's both SMG as Tom wrote and total cost-I don't keep cost per mile records like Curt but I drive both my MB's with a SE grin and spend a lot less than I used to with car payments, etc on my new Subaru-which was a very economical car. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? (31 mpg) 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.( no odo but 28 mpg using SWAG figure) Wickford, RI Yes, Dwight. I don't think I have $2000 in the W115, including purchase price, in the more than 10 years of ownership. It is catching up to me a bit now. BTW When VW says change the timing belt at x miles they MEAN IT. A friend has a Jetta 1.8t where the timing belt failed. That was a $3,000 mistake. I'd warned him against to buy an 8 year old VW without planning on a full maintenance but he did. At the time of the $3,000 mistake he still owed ~$8,000 on the car... I'm up to 115 miles a day so I have to balance spg and mpg. I can't imagine driving a boring car that didn't give me any spg... I'm quite hopeful for the new Ford Fiesta, 40mpg and zippy so spgs should be there... -Curt Yes, Curt... the M20 6 cylinder engines in some of my BMWs also have a timing belt with an 'interference' engine. That is 'interference' as in terminal interference if that belt is neglected. Like valves interfering with pistons. :) The irony is that the belt is a 15 dollar item. The 300D is anemic compared to the turbo Passat... which I still consider underpowered (4 cylinder). Frankly, I don't see why you see the VAG turbo four as anemic. Off the top of my head that engine puts out something around 180-250 hp depending on application, with a totally flat torque curve. The Passat weighs the same as a 300E at the most and I think most here would agree a 300E has more than enough scoot for everyday driving with 170-some HP. Alex The 1.8L Turbo in the AWD Passat is about 150hp. It does have some pep and zip, and cruises so easily to 80 that I do have to keep an eye on it. It is very smooth at that speed, so smooth that I have actually questioned if the speedometer is off how can I be doing 80? :) So anemic is perhaps a little harsh. It was a compromise purchase choice: AWD, wagon, a little zip, decent fuel economy, price, style, etc. She loves it, I can live with it. But it depends what you look for and what you are used to. If I push it a bit, I envision those little mice running in that wheel under the hood working way too hard. I don't want them to give out. :) Its even more complicated than that... You have to consider how old the low mpg car is and what repairs it might need vs how long you'll keep the new car and its repairs over the same period PLUS any time you might keep it beyond how long you'd keep the lower mpg car... For instance I need to start thinking about replacing my 240D before the body totally falls off... -Curt I have that one solved: just pick out something you like, and buy 6 of them. ;) I don't expect to ever buy another car for myself. But... then again, as Oscar Wilde said: I can resist anything except temptation. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D 1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro and 5 other BMWs and the 2004 Passat AWD Wagon _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat
No problem, Alex. Just go wth the sunroof version, and invest in a pair of wind goggles, and maybe a flowing scarf. You know, the Flying Flivver look. Very retro. ;) I'd pay good money to see THAT! BTW, does the three cylinder Suzuki that is down on power qualify as anemic?Answer: No, I am told that it can still beat the 240D in the 1/4 mile. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D 1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro and 5 other BMWs and the 2004 Passat AWD Wagon Alex wrote: Speaking of four-cylinder Passats, I just saw my first VW CC. Anyone else think that car is drop-dead gorgeous---much more so than the Mercedes that inspired it (CLS?). I want one but the roof is so low I'm afraid I wouldn't fit. _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat
Hi Curt, The 300D is anemic compared to the turbo Passat... which I still consider underpowered (4 cylinder). And the great gas mileage refers to anything better than the 13 mpg that her last vehicle (Jeep Grand Cherokee) averaged. :) But the bottom line is if she is happy with it, that is all that matters. As for what I drive. that is a whole other story. ;) I don't pay as much attention to mpg's (miles per gallon) as I pay to spg's (smiles per gallon). But that's just me. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro and five other BMWs and her VW Passat Turbo AWD Wagon Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat Message-ID: 810745.75588...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Tom, How does anemic compare to say your 300D? And what exactly does great gas mileage mean? My wife gets an AAA magazine and the car reviewer and I agree on almost nothing. His idea of great gas mileage appears to be ~25mpg... I consider (in a car anyway) anything under 30mpg to be a gas guzzler. -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:12:19 -0400 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat Message-ID: bay151-w18f6e716e97ea46183718f8d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 HI, We bought a used 2004 Passat Wagon (37K) for the wife about two years ago to replace a Jeep Grand Cherokee.? Turbo AWD, sunroof.? It has performed flawlessly so far--- the Jeep Gr cherokee did also, but I always hated driving it. I would have dropped that Jeep in a second if it gave me half an excuse to do so, but, honestly, it never did.???I much prefer the Passat to the Jeep, it is at least a little fun to drive anemic as it is.? The turbo helps.? Great gas mileage, btw.? It is her car, though, and she loves it.? I drive it only if I have to. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro and five other BMWs and her VW Passat Turbo AWD Wagon _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat
HI, We bought a used 2004 Passat Wagon (37K) for the wife about two years ago to replace a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Turbo AWD, sunroof. It has performed flawlessly so far--- the Jeep Gr cherokee did also, but I always hated driving it. I would have dropped that Jeep in a second if it gave me half an excuse to do so, but, honestly, it never did. I much prefer the Passat to the Jeep, it is at least a little fun to drive anemic as it is. The turbo helps. Great gas mileage, btw. It is her car, though, and she loves it. I drive it only if I have to. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro and five other BMWs and her VW Passat Turbo AWD Wagon On 6/26/2010 4:15 PM, LWB250 wrote: Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima. White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works. Two previous owners, dealer maintained. Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any opinions of those with direct experience on these cars. Thanks, Dan _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...
I believe that is an early model that comes with a kick starter, doesn't it? ;) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 10 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:29:28 +0800 From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately... Message-ID: 44056.1277126...@ozemail.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture. Hendrik who is doing route 66 the slow way On Sun Jun 20 6:43 , 'WILTON' wilt...@nc.rr.com sent: You driving, flying? What's your mode of travel now? Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 103999 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100621/017e0b00/attachment.jpg _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shipping options for a table and Chairs
Try this site. I wanted to ship a car in January from VA and I got a ton of bids from partially loaded truckers looking to fill the truck... some were emailing enroute on their way going by! I don't know about loose furniture, but it s worth a shot. http://www.uship.com/ Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 Mercedes 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 2 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:16:50 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shipping options for a table and Chairs Message-ID: 4c0ecf62.1050...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Call a mover see if you can tack it on a load? --R On 6/8/2010 6:07 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Does anyone know of any options to ship a very large Dining room table (about 7 feet long) and 6 chairs from Memphis, TN to Wichita, KS. My father is going to bring it up to Memphis from the Gulf Coast and pick up another table. I need to get it from Memphis to Wichita. I checked on rental trucks. It costs about $500-600 to rent the truck for a one-way rental like that. Plus, I will have to fly to Memphis. The plane ticket is cheap ($139), but when you add them together that's $700 or $800. Plus, gas from Memphis to Wichita, plus I get stuck in a U-Haul for 9 hours. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. www.mcdonaldtinker.comhttp://www.mcdonaldtinker.com _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT...What to see in Gettysburg
Are you a Civil War buff? How much time do you have? If you are into it you can get a self paced tour for your car CD ( it was a cassette when I was there). It takes about 2 hours to do the tour. I did it in 10 1/2 hours. That is not a misprint. Ten and one half hours. But that's not for everyone. You could spend much longer. Read up as much as you can on the battle, and if you do nothing else walk the route of Pickett's Charge. One mile and a quarter over an open, rolling field gradual uphill grade, over fences (fences are gone now) into the teeth of an absolutely murderous fire from muskets, rifled muskets and cannon. The last cannon round was a load of double canister (grapeshot) at 10 yards from a Rhode Island battery, I believe. Bone chilling and awe-inspiring. Unforgettable. Lots of other stuff to see, of course. I believe they have restored and reopened the Gettysburg Cyclorama. There is also talk of putting in a casino just south of the battlefield. Just what Gettysburg needs, right? Very controversial. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 11 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:04:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT...What to see in Gettysburg Message-ID: aanlktinve16-1ll1fnporzolrvxccejtz2reu_j_o...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Get to go to Gettysburg 6/7 thru 6/10 for a conference. What must I see? Bob R _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car lift accident in RI
This was up in Dwight's bailiwick earlier this week: http://newsblog.projo.com/2010/05/police-id-mechanic-killed-when.html Can't be too careful out there, fellas. Please always use redundant safety systems when working under a car. It happens. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] check engine light??
What is a 'check engine light'? Computer?? In a car??? Well, now I have heard everything! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs (with CEL and computers) ;) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:11 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light Message-ID: ed22ebb9-05ff-4a1e-ad26-01ca6d033...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed ?ctually, the normal reason you get a check engine light is that the computer cannot control the mixture. Time to check for vacuum leaks, manifold cracks (if you have a plastic manifold), and leaks between the air flow sensor and the throttle body. My brother in law replaced all four O2 sensors on his used BMW and it drove terribly, died all the time when you let the clutch out, bucked, you name it. Finally found an experienced mechanic who determined that the crack in the air duct between the air flow sensor and the throttle body was causing erratic mixture control, lighting up the CEL and setting O2 failure codes. New duct for $80 or so fixed it permanently. Peter _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] check engine light??
Becker (Europa, I think). Old style, push button analog. I may upgrade to an old Blaupunkt (complete with cassette player or, wait is it an 8-track?) that I have on the shelf but not in any rush to do it until I replace the antenna. You must have one of them thar new-fangled W123 Mercedes, the ones that have something called 'climate control' where the heater and A/C should be. Don't forget with a W115, we are talking about a car that has a mechanical windshield washer! You operate it by pumping a floor pedal with your left foot. Simple. Old school. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] check engine light?? Message-ID: 662450.40818...@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't remember the radio in your car Tom but all 3 of mine have digital tuners. Thats probably got a computer right? Curt Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:24:05 -0400 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] check engine light?? Message-ID: bay109-w11bc2fafddbd2002b496348d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What is a 'check engine light'? Computer??? In a car Well, now I have heard everything! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs (with CEL and computers) ;) _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT getting email from the future?
They didn't happen to mention any tips on the stock market, perchance, did they? :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:03:45 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT getting email from the future? Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've gotten two emails from this list and a third email from a totally different domain that were all from the year 2029. Anyone know if this is my problem or some other problem, maybe the email server that services my account? -Max _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Names
Some of the old Native American names throw me on the pronunciation for example: Lake Chaubunagungamaug, MA Pronounced by the locals: Webster Lake. Who knew :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 06:07:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Names Message-ID: 385400.22818...@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You can always tell somebody not from Maine because they want to go to Calis (Ca-lay) which we call Cal-iss. A couple towns over from where I live is Ashburnham which a high school friend not from this area was convinced is called Ash-burnham. He based this on his South American college roommate who had gone to a boarding school there. Everybody around here calls it Ash-burn-ham with equal emphasis on each syllable. I always contended that the people that live in a place know best what it should be called. -Curt _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
I almost forgot. It's formal name is: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg Also pronounced Webster Lake by the locals. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Search Every Craigslist Site at Once
I like this one: not a great editor, but simple to use, and tons of hits. http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensource=hpq=craigs+listaq=faqi=g10aql=oq=gs_rfai= Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 and a half dozen BMWs Message: 14 Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 22:35:20 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Search Every Craigslist Site at Once Message-ID: sig.17428c347b.4be238f8.6030...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed crazedlist.org Rich Thomas wrote: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Search_Every_Craigslist_Site_at_Once Some of you might find this useful/of interest. --R _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower motor removal W115
Thank you, Jim. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and half a dozen BMWs Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:36:32 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor removal W115 Message-ID: ff06aefe-573e-11df-ab74-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I should take another look at it and maybe check that resistor pack plug. If anyone has a pic of it or tips on fixing it (bad resistor?), I'd be much obliged. It works now, but I know it isn't right. If you have a bad resistor, just get another boneyard pack. You take off the grille to get at the back side of it, I think. Working from memory here... Make sure it's a bad resistor, and not the pins in the connector going to it. Mating connectors are the #1 class of failure point in this kind of thing, though I hear the resistors do occasionally fail open. -- Jim _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower motor removal W115
A few years back, I was having some blower problems on my W115 300D. As I delved into the job, discovering what a bear it was, I asked this list for guidance, thinking I must be doing something wrong, or that I am missing part of the instructions---or that someone experienced may have a shortcut. I was informed--- and I wish I could remember who said this that indeed the Chilton Manual had left out one step of the instructions for the removal process. The instructions read: 1. Remove blower motor cover. 2. Remove blower motor. They left out the FIRST step: 1 Remove entire car around blower motor cover. 2. Remove blower motor cover. 3. Remove blower motor. Thanks again to the wag who came up with that... it still makes me chuckle. :) After all that, btw, my blower motor was good... I had an electrical problem in the dash for which I just rerouted some wiring. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 20:48:13 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing Dash Ignition on w115 Message-ID: z2r437bc981005021848vee76fe64oea7e5163f5ecc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Replacing the blower in a 114/115 is a bit more involved than pulling the dash -- BTDT - x2. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Wimps! I've had the dash out of my 560 SL, twice, the dash out of the 450 SL, and out of the 380 SL. Haven't done my wife's 560 SL yet, but I expect I'll have to. No, I don't want to do another one either, but it's not _that_ bad! They go somewhat faster after you've done one. Still, you do end up pretty much gutting the car... -- Jim _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower motor removal W115
NOW he tells me!! :) J/K. I didn't have a wiring diagram for the W115 (Haynes doesn't make a manual for the W115, and my Chilton's doesn't have schematics). I thought there must be another connector of some sort, but I thought it was just buried deep in the bowels of the dash somewhere. I was unaware of that resistor pack plug on the firewall at the time, and I ended up gerry-rigging a plug inside the dash to get the blower switch operating again. In the process I did let some smoke out of the wires. :) I should take another look at it and maybe check that resistor pack plug. If anyone has a pic of it or tips on fixing it (bad resistor?), I'd be much obliged. It works now, but I know it isn't right. thanks, Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 06:51:50 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor removal W115 Message-ID: 06465ed8-56bb-11df-ab74-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed After all that, btw, my blower motor was good... I had an electrical problem in the dash for which I just rerouted some wiring. It's always good to make sure of the diagnosis before diving right in. In the case of the 115, the blower motor resistor pack plug is on the firewall, you can unplug it and feed it power right there to see how the motor (and the resistors) fare. A battery charger works. -- Jim _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Wall Parking
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/wrong_thats_how_you_did_it_par.php :) Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170
That's a thought, Dwight. I will need to spend some time building a doghouse, however, so that I will have some place to sleep from now on should I be foolish enough to bring another car home. :) Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 10 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:19:06 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170 Message-ID: 002101cae78d$c86b4a40$5941de...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Tom, This would make a nice chowdah fest entry-we could set up a separate category for you if you took this on. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:24 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170 Wasn't someone looking for one of these a while back? No affiliation. http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/1685654950.html 1951 Mercedes Benz 170S 4 door sedan. Standard Transmission, radio, heater original interior low mileage, partially apart.(fenders, grill, hood etc.) Needs restoration. Call for additional information. DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS CAR-HAVE TO SELL! 203-876-9310 or 203-907-9745. Best wishes to Rusty for a complete and speedy recovery. Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170
Hi Fred, Minor details preventing you from another acquisition: 4. My emergency stash is empty (wife rolled eyes and advanced me $100 ). 3. Diesel preferred. 2.You haven't built a doghouse yet, either. 1. You want to STAY married, too. :) Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:07:10 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170 Message-ID: 4bd9a09e.4000...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tom, et al. That model of car was the second car I owned and I'd love another one. Just a few minor details prevent it from happening. Care to guess #1 reason? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 4/28/2010 11:23 PM, tom tomscat wrote: Wasn't someone looking for one of these a while back? No affiliation. http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/1685654950.html 1951 Mercedes Benz 170S 4 door sedan. Standard Transmission, radio, heater original interior low mileage, partially apart.(fenders, grill, hood etc.) Needs restoration. Call for additional information. DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS CAR-HAVE TO SELL! 203-876-9310 or 203-907-9745. Best wishes to Rusty for a complete and speedy recovery. Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 7 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:41:05 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax. Message-ID: 4bd8f1c1.80...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Dwight, et al. Mea culpa, I did it again! My emergency stash is empty ( wife rolled eyes and advanced me $100 ). Ex Florida car, sat around for a while, a bit mouldy inside, very little rust, questionable engine and ? Now all I have to do is get it home. Fred Moir Lynn MA _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1951 Mercedes 170
Wasn't someone looking for one of these a while back? No affiliation. http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/1685654950.html 1951 Mercedes Benz 170S 4 door sedan. Standard Transmission, radio, heater original interior low mileage, partially apart.(fenders, grill, hood etc.) Needs restoration. Call for additional information. DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS CAR-HAVE TO SELL! 203-876-9310 or 203-907-9745. Best wishes to Rusty for a complete and speedy recovery. Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 Mercedes W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Deer or Gator bellowing?
Hi , Sorry I can't help you on the gator bellowing, but your story reminded me of my favorite Florida gator story. We used to visit the inlaws when they wintered near St Petersburg Florida. Inevitably there would be a gator story in the St Pete Times. A man was working in a warehouse that had a large overhead door entrance, with a windowed office at the rear of the open warehouse. He was in the office and heard a rustling noise. He looked through the office window to see an 8 foot alligator approaching the open door of the office. He quickly closed the door, but was now trapped in the office, with the gator between him and the only exit. In a bit of a panic, he phoned his best friend, who, after an extended laugh at his friend's plight advised him to call the Dept of Environmental Protection, or similar. Sure enough DEP shortly sent out an officer who tranquilized the gator and safely removed him from the premises. Afterwards, the officer spoke to the formerly trapped worker: It may be some consolation to you to know that that gator had no intention of eating you.. But before you get too comfortable, you need to know that it IS mating season. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 1 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:59:17 -0400 From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Deer or Gator bellowing? Message-ID: e65476f1c2ee4665b612aca035f7d...@gerry Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original U.S.Fish and Wildlife have this site: http://www.fws.gov/video/sound.htm Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net So I was out working on the SD this afternoon, the driveway to the garage is down by the marsh. At some point I hear this groaning/bellowing/moaning sound coming from the marsh not too far away. I heard this same sound last fall, and saw something in the marsh grass rustling it, made me think it was a gator so I did not check it too closely. They do come into the brackish water sometimes but don't stay. Now we have lots of deer all over, and I have heard OF bucksnort but don't really know what that sounds like (unless that is what I heard). Given it is spring, and I would guess the deer have some things on their limited minds, I wondered if it might be a buck up to some of that business. I do know gators will make sort of a bellowing sound, but wouldn't know that for sure either. I went and poked around a bit but saw neither, so not sure what it was. The dogs are fairly useless in this regard, the other day there were 4 does out not far from their fence, and the dogs were asleep by the back door, though they did finally get a scent or something then went crazy and the deer ran away. Anyone an expert on bucksnorts or gator bellowing? --R _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, dishwashers
Kaleb, I am with Rich on this... we had a Maytag for 6 or 7 years. Headaches and noise. We shopped around when we moved 2 years ago, and settled on a Bosch from Lowes. Great machine, quiet as a mouse. I have cleaned that bottom filter exactly twice in two years, both times removing debris about the size of my thumbnail. (I do rinse the dishes before loading.) And empty it the following morning, nice and dry. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and half a dozen BMWs Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:24:53 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers Message-ID: 4b9d8c65.8000...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to Bosch, Kitchen and, and a Frigidair. There were a few whirpool models that have the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like that. I am thinking I want one with a stainless steel tub rather than plastic. Reading on lowes, the KA one has better reviews than the Bosch, both are $599. Bosch has more cycles, but does not have a food disposal but rather a basket thing you have to empty. Also does not seem to have a heated dry cycle. Rich Thomas wrote: Buy a Bosch. They are on the expensive end but well worth it. Very quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside. I bought one about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, $50 if I recall. I think they are made in NC too, so domestic manufacture with Deutsche engineering I guess. I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones have the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones. At one point after going through 2 of them I went to some dept store, found a really cheap one on the display floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than it was priced at, he said sure, got it for maybe $100 or 150, I wheeled it out, put it in, worked same as the expensive one but noisy, plastic tub, etc. I figured if they were generally disposable I would just get cheap ones and let them run til they died. But the Boschs are great, much much better than the cheap ones. They have different models with different basket deals that are adjustable or not, wine glass racks, etc. and different controls and cycles but you really don't need all the cycles. --R On 3/14/2010 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes, which seems to get worse and worse. Im looking for a new one. Anyone got any to recommend or avoid? _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting Mercedes
Hi OK Don, Years ago this shop was on my commute to work, and I used to drop in there on occasion. Mouth agape, drooling, it was like a trip to Fantasy Land. A little place in a little town with just an amazing inventory of cars. I am not surprised to see a G wagon there, and yes... that IS a 1955 300SL Gullwing on his website. It's worth checking out. http://www.f40.com/ No affiliation, etc. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a half dozen BMWs Message: 10 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:31:44 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Interesting MBs Message-ID: 437bc981003121831m34f5d015j500f9b1d68738...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This looks enticing, if it was only closer --- *http://tinyurl.com/yhd3rmx* A bit rusty, but still cool vehicles. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Valve Seats 190DT
Hi Fred, I have a couple of places I can check for you down this way also, if you'd like. My sources may be different from what Dwight may find locally. I'll let you know if I have any luck. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a half a dozen BMWs Fred, I'd contact Carriage House MB in New London CT-they have three good old time mechanics in their classic care division and I think they do engine work. Email me off list for more info or if you want me to call the folks I know there. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Valve Seats 190DT Hi. Alles. I'm currently stymied in my 190DT head gasket/valve job work. Took the head off and sent it out to be cleaned and skimmed. Ordered parts from Rusty. Replaced guides and checked fit to spec. Old valve faces showed some odd little marks and in one case a little bump. Exh. seats were in need of some touching up. Cleaning up the seats revealed that all 5 exh. seats had a burned 'nick' at exactly the same position, such that the seats will need to be replaced. My local machine shop guy has no experience in MBZ heads and suggests that I find someone with the necessary tools/experience. He has a contact that he recommends in NY state. I'm in Eastern Mass. Any suggestions? I have photos but I'm not willing to endure the whinging that attaching them will cause. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bimmer diesel
It's a pretty well established that the BMW diesels circa 1985-87 were plagued with head gasket problems. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and six (6) BMWs--- all gassers Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:19:04 -0500 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not a benz Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b801db9...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On the day I bought my '87 wagon, I had driven about 5 miles and stopped to fill up the fuel tank, and one of these pulled in next to me. The guy driving it was a total diesel nut, it was his second or third bimmer diesel. We compared notes, and these seemed to be pretty nice cars to own. Long engine life, a few quirks to beware of, but I don't remember if there was a problem with parts. I'll bet there's a whole community of diesel bimmer owners that you can tap into for help on that question. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Not a benz http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=pcar_id=260118869dealer_id=63 947727car_year=1985rdm=1267028461866lastStartYear=1981num_records=25 systime=highlightFirstMakeModel=start_year=1981keywordsfyc=keywords rep=engine=certified=body_code=143fuel=Dieselawsp=falsesearch_type =bothdistance=25marketZipError=falsesearch_lang=enshowZipError=nmak e=keywords_display=color=page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchformmi n_price=body_style=CONVERTbody_style=COUPEbody_style=HATCHbody_style =SEDANbody_style=WAGONdrive=default_sort=seller_type=bmax_mileage= style_flag=2sort_type=priceDESCaddress=30306advanced=yend_year=2011 doors=transmission=max_price=1cardist=3standard=falserdpage=thu mb Any thoughts on these cars other than hard to obtain parts? -Rolf _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fred Moir Award
We will also have a new award this year-we will see if anyone can top Fred in The best car stories in exotic parts of the globe' category. Hi Dwight, I would like to offer my story of the self-removing windshield at 65 mph in the exotic locale of Corbin Corners Ct for your consideration. While it may not be Aden or Yemen, or one of those other exotic places Fred's stories originate from, it is the home of the West Farms Mall, which is about as bizarre as we get here in CT. Also, I would suggest one condition be atttached to the Fred Moir Award Category (which I wholeheartedly support, btw): Liberties taken with the truth will be encouraged, or at least overlooked, provided they are given in furtherance of a good narrative. :) Did anyone catch the Jimi Hendrix Special tonight in Ovation. Unbelievable. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (Curt, tell Angie to make me an offer) and too many BMWs to tell my wife about .. so don't say nuthin _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Underwater diesel
Your last comment reminded me of something I stumbled across a while back: http://englishrussia.com/?p=1566 Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 4 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:55:47 -0800 From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hobby vs. Sickness Message-ID: 40cf133cbd484ba78b816ee968180...@kdogpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original . I also sold my brushed electric Traxxas slash which left me $20 short of the new electric Traxxas rustler VXL Brushless I wanted. It has pretty good resale value, but I have no reason to sell it since it's about all the speed I can handle (even faster than the gasser) and waterproof too. It is warranted to go 6 feet underwater! Try that with a Mercedes Diesel! :D Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hobby vs. Sickness
Or, when the wife says: Honey, it's me or the car(s). And you hesitate. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't let on to the wife how many BMWs I have Gary wrote: Snook flips another one! That's the idea! That's the idea, but it hasn't sold yet. Of course, I have only had it 1 week and its only been for sale for 4 days. I really wanted to keep the newer one, but, I think it will sell before the 7 series does. Alas, I will find something else in 6 months and do it all over again. When does a hobby turn into a sickness? When the state says you've exceeded the yearly limit for title transfers and you need to get a dealer license. Allan -- 1983 300D _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Older MBs
Hi Dwight, I haven't had occasion to utilize the service dept at Carriage House, mainly because I 'know a guy'--- actually two guys--- who do the work out of their house. One guy (they call him 'John Mercedes') even makes house calls, or used to, until some recent health issues arose. I have used their parts department a few times where, because I am a Friend of John's, I get special pricing at his rate. I also use an independent local shop run by a gear head stock car driver who does great work for a reasonable fee. In the 10 years that I have owned the 1975 300D, it really hasn't required much that I couldn't do myself in the garage. It is now using some oil, and it may need rings I don't have time to get involved in all that, so I may sell it. Or donate it. But it has done stalwart service as a back up vehicle all these years. Sadly, it has not been the primary focus of upkeep, particularly cosmetically these last few years, because I have been 'otherwise engaged' with many other projects and that neglect is taking its toll. The car is actually very solid, just some surface rust mainly, but it needs one of Curt's $50 paint jobs to spruce it up a bit.:) I think Randy rates a special invitation to the 2010 ChowdahQ. I am not sure where he is located, but I'd love to see his '76 300D ---with manual under-hood shut off just like mine! :) Always nice to see another W115 around. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have Message: 9 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:38:44 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpaebooaaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Come on, face it. Most of us are totally unreasonable when it comes to cars. We want a cream puff but we want it for the price of a POS. Almost no one keeps detailed records of cars and repairs. Almost no one has much of an idea of when a car should be serviced. We are the oddballs when it comes to cars and we should not expect that ads for cars will be realistic. People are trying to sell a vehicle they no longer want. If they were totally honest they would have a difficult time getting anyone to even look at it. Take my truck for an example. It is an 02 so 8 or 9 years old depending on how you look at it. I bought it used about 3 or 4 years ago. It was not perfect then and it is less so now. I was realistic when I bought it. It had scratches. It had wear marks etc but it ran good and I have had little trouble with it in the time I have had it. If I were to advertise it, I would say it was in good shape for its age but most of you folks would likely be upset with me when you saw it. There is a big scratch on the tail gate that a PO has daubed paint into. The leather wrapped steering wheel is worn such that the color is essentially gone from part of it. The driver's seat edge is cracked - the vinyl part. there is a worn spot on the leather part of the driver's seat. There are scratches on the passenger front door where someone in a parking lot keyed me - who really know why? There are holes in the top edge of the box where the PO must have had one of those tool boxes screwed down etc. But, in my opinion it is relatively clean and it runs good so I think it reasonably good for its age. On the other hand my 76 115 300D is in good shape for its age too. It has been painted and the job is not perfect. There is some bondo in the lower quarters behind the rear wheels. The seats are loosing their stuffing. The vacuum system needs some work as I often, almost always lately, have to open the hood to shut it off. The map pocket from the driver's door is in my basement and the doodads that hold it on are broken. There is some staining of the headliner near the courtesy light in the front and maybe in the back too. The fuel hoses coming off the tank leak a bit and need to be replaced. The carpets are somewhat iffy. Shall I go on? You folks would be up in arms if I advertised it as good for its age and you came to look at it but I think it is given it is 34 years old. It runs pretty good. It looks pretty good from a distance etc. It is not new. It has not been redone by a professional shop for concours competition etc. It is a pretty realistic example of an old car that has had some care but it is not perfect. Almost none are. Randy Message: 10 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:58:45 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Are Toyota owners stupid? Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpkebooaaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Have you noticed that a LOT of Toyota owners are pompous, self rightous b**bs who are totally convinced that they have done the intelligent thing because Consumer Reports told them it was
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition/BMW Baur
Hi Rich, That does basically look like what Baur (factory authorized aftermarket vendor, much like AMG to Mercedes) did to the 323i chassis (sawzall treatment). But BMW wasn't making any cabriolets--- if you recall around that time no one else was either, until the Miata came along. There was even concern that the Feds were gonna outlaw convertibles for safety reasons. The Miata was such a success that everyone got back into the convertible business. That included BMW, which resumed production around 1986 or '87. The real attraction to me is the light E21 chassis with the 'baby six' engine, which was not available in the USA due to CAFE/safety standards. The Targa/convertible top makes it more of a collectible, and is an added fun bonus. --R (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!) or... as Mark Twain would say... There's no accounting for taste. :) As for Curt... although I will give your generous offer serious consideration... I am looking for a little more ... and I will throw in the shutoff valve (that I just haven't gotten around to putting on)... and about 20 boxes of spare parts... including another engine... what do ya think? :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (maybe for sale) and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I really have ;) Message: 8 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:58:42 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: 4b66de12.8090...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That thing is pretty ugly with the top down. Looks kinda like the XJS Cabriolet. Like a guy went at a coupe with a sawzall. But it is fun having a unique ride, good luck with it. --R (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!) tom tomscat wrote: I just bought a 1982 BMW 323i Baur TC (Euro), a rarity, one of less than 5,000 ever made. It looks like this: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/1557138530.html It is a Targa/Cabriolet (TC), but ours is a dark blue 6 cylinder 5 speed. Once I tweak it a bit, he will get to drive that. In real life he is an architect, btw. -- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:16:00 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: 397122.28956...@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The one that won't shut off by itself? I'll give you $50. ;) That'll be sure I win the cheap car competition anyway... -Curt Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:37:50 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: bay109-w253ccd950905dc806f9ce8d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Actually, my son Brian aids and abets my car hobby in exchange for which I provide him with an interesting vehicle with a bumper to bumper warranty 24/7 365.? I do the buying/selling and mechanical work, and he gets to drive any of the cars.? If a problem develops with his ride, I simply swap him another one, and fix it or get it fixed if need be.? So he has driven an assortment of Jags, Mercedes and BMWs for the past 5 years or so his current ride is 1989 325ix AWD Bimmer.? It's a win/win arrangement, it has been a lot of fun, and it has been a great father/son activity.? I? highly recommend it.? We are gradually upgrading the fleet I just bought a 1982 BMW 323i Baur TC (Euro), a rarity, one of less than 5,000 ever made.???It looks like this:? http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/1557138530.html??? It is a Targa/Cabriolet (TC), but ours is a dark blue 6 cylinder 5 speed.? Once I tweak it a bit, he will get to drive that.? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Domestic wagon
Doesn't Dodge make a Magnum wagon? My wife drives a VW Passat 4Motion (AWD) Turbo Wagon, which she loves. We got rid of the Jeep Grand Cherokee which I never liked driving. It was a great vehicle for us in terms of reliability--- never had a bit of trouble with it --- but no fun at all to drive. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: None of the big three offer a wagon. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition
Hi Wonko, We shall see about that! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D: ***2009 ChowdahQ Cheapest Jalopy Award Winner*** and don't tell my wife how many BMWs I have Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:17:34 -0600 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Semi OT ChowdahQ Message-ID: ??? 61dfb08b1001302117l735f4292se233ca1378847...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My 240D would definitely win the ugly car contest. you are missing the point of a Q - getting as many old Benzs (and their drivers) in one spot as possible - that means that you each need to drive own car! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition
Actually, my son Brian aids and abets my car hobby in exchange for which I provide him with an interesting vehicle with a bumper to bumper warranty 24/7 365. I do the buying/selling and mechanical work, and he gets to drive any of the cars. If a problem develops with his ride, I simply swap him another one, and fix it or get it fixed if need be. So he has driven an assortment of Jags, Mercedes and BMWs for the past 5 years or so his current ride is 1989 325ix AWD Bimmer. It's a win/win arrangement, it has been a lot of fun, and it has been a great father/son activity. I highly recommend it. We are gradually upgrading the fleet I just bought a 1982 BMW 323i Baur TC (Euro), a rarity, one of less than 5,000 ever made. It looks like this: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/1557138530.html It is a Targa/Cabriolet (TC), but ours is a dark blue 6 cylinder 5 speed. Once I tweak it a bit, he will get to drive that. In real life he is an architect, btw. Anyway, with the new addition, I am faced with the awful decision to downsize the fleet somehow. There is a very real possibility that the 300D may go on the auction block. So Curt, if you want to increase your chances to cop the 2010 Jalopy Award this could be your golden opportunity! Get your bid in early! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (open to offers) :) and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: 429072.14159...@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Like I said I'm depending on you showing up in a nice BMW. If I were concerned about somebody showing up in a real jalopy it'd be your son, he seems like the type to search for weeks to find something really atrocious ;) Having seen both cars its a tough call. Don's car shuts off without manual intervention though. I'd give Tom a mild advantage. Neither is up to the standard of many I remember from my youth. My grandfather used to describe them as rusted right to the windshield... -Curt Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:23:05 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: bay109-w45e50763b1e72ba9ccfdc68d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Hi Wonko, We shall see about that! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D:? ***2009 ChowdahQ Cheapest Jalopy Award Winner*** and don't tell my wife how many BMWs I have Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:17:34 -0600 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Semi OT ChowdahQ Message-ID: ??? 61dfb08b1001302117l735f4292se233ca1378847...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My 240D would definitely win the ugly car contest. you are missing the point of a Q - getting as many old Benzs (and their drivers) in one spot as possible - that means that you each need to drive own car! _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition and USCGA
Wonko, If you come to the ChowdahQ, you can include a side trip to my hometown, New London CT, and visit the Coast Guard Academy and its Museum. Were you ever stationed there? Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D ***2009 ChowdahQJalopy Award Winner*** :) and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have Message: 13 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:53:44 -0600 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am now in Houston Message-ID: 61dfb08b1001311953h2106ade4xe06d5852bbf58...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Grumman Albatross. Coast Guard designation HU-16E. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/6/9/0929968.jpg On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:29 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! What kind of plane was it? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com Landing on ice isn't as difficult as it sounds. You put the airplane down, reverse the props / trust to slow down, and fly the plane on the runway using the rudder until it stops. Been there quite a few times. We went into Nantucket with a plane load of beer for the USCG commissary in 1979. One prop went into reverse and one didn't. We did several 360s on the runway, and -- when we'd all finished crapping ourselves -- tried to taxi as normally as possible to where the give-us-beer truck was waiting. ... It was logged as a training flight. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Award Competition
Huh?? What?? Competition for the Jalopy Award at the next ChowdahQ? GAME ON!! :) BTW, Curt and Dwight: pencil me in to bring a Beer Can Chicken or two, cooked with wood in my Texas-style smoker. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and now 6 BMWs :) Message: 13 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:07:31 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst RIP Message-ID: 005301caa1f0$3cf23650$b6d6a2...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well Curt, depending on Tom's entry, you could be disqualified for the LED bulbs. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst RIP Message-ID: 160024.9167...@web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Don't think you're comin up here to get any jalopy awards buster! Although I did splurge and buy LED dash bulbs. Can't put 'em in though, my lungs won't tolerate the cold yet. Gimmie a couple days (and an electric heater) and it'll get there. -Curt _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition
Dwight, I took a solemn vow long ago that I would never do anything out of a sense of guilt, nor would I ever use guilt to manipulate others to do my bidding... ... UNLESS NOTHING ELSE WORKED! The same holds true for bribery. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Well Tom, wood smoked beer can chicken might sway the judges. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition
Dwight, Moral high ground? Moral shifting sands might be more accurate. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have (that will be our little secret) Message: 11 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:49:58 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Message-ID: 001101caa217$b213a5a0$163af0...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds like the moral high ground to me. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:56 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ Jalopy Competition Dwight, I took a solemn vow long ago that I would never do anything out of a sense of guilt, nor would I ever use guilt to manipulate others to do my bidding... ... UNLESS NOTHING ELSE WORKED! The same holds true for bribery. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't let on to my wife how many BMWs I have Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Well Tom, wood smoked beer can chicken might sway the judges. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gary Hurst RIP
Hi Gary, To quote Twain, The rumors of your death were greatly exaggerated. Welcome back. Now play nicely. :) Or, if you can't I am reminded of a favorite quote attributed to Alice Roosevelt Longworth (FDR's sister): If you don't have anything nice to say about somebody. ... come over here and sit next to me! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and don't tell my wife how many BMWs I have (that'll be our little secret) Message: 6 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:05:51 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst RIP Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001301105p1133b79bu3c4818f1fbfd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 my role is to expose the pretensions of the incredibly pompous and stupid it's sometimes a rough business On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: That's what I like about you. Your humorous, enlightening and entertaining posts counterbalance your offensive ones. Not that I condone the offensive ones or anything. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the man of the hour the man with the power too sweet to be sour _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gary Hurst
Hi I generally enjoy Gary's posts, but I abhor the personal attacks that I have seen. Totally uncalled for. Does Gary wish to return to the list? If so, I would vote him back conditionally: no personal attacks or abuse. One strike and you are out. I don't care what gets said on Banned... that is what it's there for. I don't subscribe. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and even MORE BMWs now :) _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] worst of its over
Hi Curt, Welcome back, glad to see you back in circulation, no pun intended. The lesson here is if you feel a pain or something unusual... get it checked out. I just went thru a similar thing at the end of December... had a nagging pain in my leg, like a charley horse. It hung around for weeks, coming and going, and moving to different parts of my leg. I mostly ignored it, thinking it was just normal aches and pains from stuff I was doing. I justified it by thinking I overdid the snow shovelling last month, etc etc. Finally my wife and I decided to look up the symptoms on the internet, and discovered something called DVT: Deep Vein Thrombosis a blood clot. So I called my doctor, to get an appointment, and he told me to get to the Emergency Room NOW. Dont wait another minute. Sheesh. So I did, and sure enough they found a clot behind my knee. I am on blood thinners for a while, and hopefully it will diminish. The ER Doc made a comment that I was lucky that I felt the pain and responded. Do you know when we usually find the blood clots? At the autopsy. :) I had no idea that this pain could have been caused by a clot, nor any idea how one gets clots. But I got one. The danger is that if the clot gets above the knee, it can journey to the heart and the lungs, and things can get real serious real fast. I was lucky, but it was a close call. So for anyone else out there with a peculiar pain, particularly in the leg, get it checked. You never know. I look forward to seeing back at the ChowdahQ! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut Message: 11 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] worst of its over Message-ID: 461330.86358...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ongoing saga
Hi Curt, Best wishes to you for a speedy and complete recovery from this. Regards to Angie. Tom From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:52 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart. Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath. Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage. Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in... So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to. -Curt _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 230E
Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 50, Issue 144
Hi Jim et al, You are correct. The CE didn't ring true to me either, but I was reviewing some hand-written notes and just overlooked that. I have now located a copy of the original title, and it is clearly marked as a 1984 230C, with a W123 chassis. My apologies for the confusion, and to you also, Dieselhead. It was a few years ago,and I should have checked more carefully on the badging and avoided the mistake. Also Hi to Donald Snook, fellow bimmer owner. I have had a number of them, all older 3 Series. The stable currently has: 1989 E30 325ix (The Ultimate Snowmobile) 1989 E30 325ic (Tanmobile) :) 1979 E21 323i Euro (project car) 1978 E21 320i (parts car) 1977 E21 320i (carbed, previous owner was setting it up to race) 1982 E21 323i Euro Baur (targa top/convertible) (scheduled to arrive by truck tonight) My two sons kid me about running a residential facility for feral BMWs. I am going to have to cull the herd, though, because I am over the 'limit', and I want to STAY married!:) Tough decision, though. The culling the herd part, not the staying married part, btw. The 323s are really rare, especially the Baur, and the ix is ... well just unbelievable in the snow. So they will stay, but the others who knows. Sadly, that probably goes for the 1975 W115 300D, which I have had for 10 years. I'll be making those decisions in the next few weeks. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all of the above Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:34:29 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1984 230E Message-ID: be91ba45-09be-11df-82b4-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. That's really weird, because the E (before this whole 'class' nonsense) meant fuel-injected. e.g. the 280 and 280E 123's, etc. I thought the class crap began when the flipped the letters and the numbers around. -- Jim _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 230E
Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 50, Issue 46
Hi Bruce, I suppose it depends on the car. At one time a few years ago I had two W115 300Ds, a 1975 and a 1976. I swapped the engine of the '76 rust bucket into the '75 (good body, non-running engine). The replaced engine turned out to be too smokey for the CT DMV, so i swapped them back. So I ended up pulling engines on three occasions, and re-installing them twice total five times. I used a cherry picker crane hoist, and pulled the engine and tranny together every time, using a polypropylene strap around the front of the engine. The strap is placed just behind the hump of the oil pan underneath. There was no need for an engine leveler because the weight of the tranny and the location of the strap provides the proper tilt for the engine to clear the firewall, the front suspension and the front grill. I also used a scissor jack under the tranny to fine tune the adjustment angles while lifting. I did it singlehandedly and I was amazed at how easy it was especially after hearing such dire warnings from many people. The biggest problem I had was when doing it the first time, in my excitement at how smoothly it was going, I knocked over my capped coffee mug. twice! :) The process to get everything unbolted, labeled and disconnected was tedious and time consuming. The lift itself, proceeding slowly and carefully, was easily less than 10 minutes, and it was really a piece of cake. And that was the first time I had ever pulled an engine, btw. Keep in mind that the W115 is a relatively uncomplicated car to work on... I don't know what car you are contemplating working on. I am sure that if you proceed with 'due diligence' you will be fine. As my dad used to say to me. Hey, Tom, it's only nuts and bolts! :) Good luck, Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 8 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:09:33 -0800 (PST) From: B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Pulling Motors - Opinions? Message-ID: 987044.25034...@web56601.mail.re3.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All, ? The first time I swapped an engine, I left the tranny in the car and unbolted the motor.? It was extremely slow and tedious.? Afterward, I vowed to never do it that way again, and next time pull tranny and motor together. ? The second time, I pulled the tranny and motor together, and vowed never to do that again.? It was faster and simpler, but vastly more physical effort was required. ? Third time, pulled motor separately, and afterward decided?again that it was a mistake. ? What is the consensus on this list? ? Cheers, ? Bruce _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
There is a local fella who has 2 diesel BMWs and the Vixen (BMW diesel) motorhome in the parking lot of the bait and tackle shop he runs in town. I have never seen any of them run, and I would wager they all have blown head gaskets. So, what does HE drive? A W123 240D, of course. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of older BMWs (yes, Fred, they are all older BMW engines: two '89s a 325ix AWD aka The Ultimate Snowmobile :) and a 325ic convertible, a '77, a '78 (parts) and a rare '79 Euro) Message: 4 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:12:22 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Message-ID: 4b40b3d6.9040...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed LWB250 wrote: they made me aware of the rather checkered history these things had for heads and head gaskets. When looking at used motorhomes, you often find rebuilt engines in examples that would be regarded as very low miles if it were a car. When you look at diesel Vixens (2.4L BMW turbo), they ALL have rebuilt engines in them, many within the last 5,000 or 10,000 miles (quick, sell it before it blows again). Mitch. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
Hi Fred, This guy has had this up for sale for quite a while. Needs engine work = needs head gasket. The BMW diesel was notorious for that. How does that saying go? there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes except a cheap BMW. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:19:02 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Message-ID: 4b3fb846.5020...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Original Message Subject: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html to contact the person who posted this. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this?
Hi, You are correct, Curt. My 1975 W115 300D does have power windows. The sunroof, however, is a manual, sliding type. And it's huge, too. You don't see many sunroofs that big anymore. FWIW. I'd like to suggest Largest Sunroof as a prize category for the next ChowdahQ, if I may. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: 624457.40868...@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think my 190D and Dwight's 240D are the only manuals that have ever been to ChowdaQ... I didn't look at Tom's car too closely but I think Dwight's is the only one we've had with manual windows... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:55:38 -0600 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: ??? 3485b4230912301855n289fa81v336d28993d704...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dwight wrote: I hear you-I was sort of kidding-rally don't want to sell it and probably won't. My '84 is all manual also - I like it. Maybe we can have a reunion of manuals if I make it to chowdah '10. mao _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sunroofs: Size Matters :) (to some)
Hi, The 6.9 may give a run for its money, being the big sedan, but Curt's right--- we'd have to use a tape measure. Perhaps one reason the W115 sunroof is so large is because MB didn't crowd any power assist equipment, or even any cranking mechanisms into that limited roof space just the hand latching unit and the slide. My car is presently in the shop, or I'd go measure it now. When fully opened, it is surprisingly large especially the side-to-side width dimension. I love sunroofs---rarely buy a car without one--- and this is the largest I have had. I am not familiar with the later model glass roofs, and I don't know how far they actually open. They may well be larger than mine. I believe there are also BMWs and Land Rovers out there with twin sunroofs, maybe others also. Nice try, Curt, but convertibles are in a category of their own. :) I love those, too, btw---I'd bring mine to the ChowdahQ, but it's made by one of those other German auto makers. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D (in the shop) and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:34:44 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: 005401ca8a50$4e347d40$ea9d77...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom, Would a sunroof on 6.9 trump yours? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:09 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Hi, You are correct, Curt. My 1975 W115 300D does have power windows. The sunroof, however, is a manual, sliding type. And it's huge, too. You don't see many sunroofs that big anymore. FWIW. I'd like to suggest Largest Sunroof as a prize category for the next ChowdahQ, if I may. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: 624457.40868...@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think my 190D and Dwight's 240D are the only manuals that have ever been to ChowdaQ... I didn't look at Tom's car too closely but I think Dwight's is the only one we've had with manual windows... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:55:38 -0600 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: ??? 3485b4230912301855n289fa81v336d28993d704...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dwight wrote: I hear you-I was sort of kidding-rally don't want to sell it and probably won't. My '84 is all manual also - I like it. Maybe we can have a reunion of manuals if I make it to chowdah '10. mao Message: 9 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:39:12 EST From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sunroofs Message-ID: be3.58e7f358.386e6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You are correct, Curt.? My 1975 W115 300D does have power windows.? The sunroof, however, is a manual, sliding type.? And it's huge, too.? You don't see many sunroofs that big anymore.? FWIW... The optional black glass Panorama roofs on the current cars are even larger although they don't slide. I skipped it on my present car mostly because of the nooks and crannies where dust could accumulate when the roof was tilted or opened. The weight of all that glass up high and the $1000 extra cost was a factor also. RLE Message: 12 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: 574743.82956...@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bigger than a 123 sunroof? I had no idea... I'll need to bring a tape measure I guess. If Burt brought a convertible he'd have you beat ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:09:18 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: bay109-w8c9cb24068d14243bf1ad8d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message: 13 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:12 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sunroofs Message-ID: befe651deefc4e6abfe458486a6ab...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1
[MBZ] sunroofs
Hi Dwight, Shortly after you sent this comment, I saw a 1976 6.9 go to auction on Barrett Jackson. The aerial shots showed a huge sunroof indeed, although my guess is that it is a power unit on that car, not a manual slider like mine. Amazingly enough, that car had only 70K original miles; it had the original title: showing it was owned by Doris Day (claimed as a one-owner), and was in beautiful condition. Auction price: $7,700. There's no accounting for taste. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:34:44 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Message-ID: 005401ca8a50$4e347d40$ea9d77...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom, Would a sunroof on 6.9 trump yours? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:09 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] What is a More Realistic Price for this? Hi, You are correct, Curt. My 1975 W115 300D does have power windows. The sunroof, however, is a manual, sliding type. And it's huge, too. You don't see many sunroofs that big anymore. FWIW. I'd like to suggest Largest Sunroof as a prize category for the next ChowdahQ, if I may. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] There's no accounting for taste.
I am thinking that this is the kind of thing Mark Twain had in mind when he made that statement. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1517995226.html Sheesh. Merry Christmas and Best wishes of the Season to all. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] project 240D
Correct, Curt. That's a W115 in the pic. 1976 was the last year of the W115, and 1977 was the first year of the W123. I don't have the exact production dates near to hand, but that is either a very late production date W115--- although I don't recall ever seeing one designated as a 1977 model or he has made a mistake. http://et.mercedes-benz-clubs.com/mediawiki/index.php/Kategorie:W114/W115/en#240_D_sedan_.2F_W_115_D_24.2C_1973_-_1976 This link shows end of production for the W115 240D as 12/1976. BTW, some interesting pics of a few W115 models you don't see often: ambulances, special purpose bodies, long wheelbase, etc. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 14 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] project 240D Message-ID: 681756.17490...@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Wouldn't a '77 be a 123? Thats not a 123 dash... Or taillights... -Curt Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:21:07 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: [MBZ] project 240D To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: m1my1elfdo@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1517475138.html What's odd about this one is that he says it has been sitting for 10 years but it has a current plate on it.? Hmm. Allan -- Allan Streib _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 76 Mercedes 450SEL 4Dr Sedan, W116 Series - $450 (Mystic, Ct.)
Wasn't someone looking for a big V8? 'replacement 6.9L V8 with 68K. http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1472817360.html No affiliation. Caveat emptor. TomSchuch SEConnecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sub umbra sede
Thanks, Rich, for letting us know about the sad news of the passing of the Prince of Seborga, whose official motto for his Principality was: Sub umbra sede (Sit in the shade). I miss this guy already! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sub umbra sede
Hi Dan, I didn't mean to slight you, but it was Rich's earlier post that got my attention initially. This only goes to show that there are at least two guys on this list with too much time on their hands. Besides me, that is. and Craig, evidently.:)Even I didn't have time to look up the pretender to the throne, Craig! Only because I got called to dinner first. :) I only regret that when I was in Italy a couple of years ago I didn't have the opportunity to meet 'His Tremendousness', perhaps when he was holding court in the Bianca Azzura bar, complete 'with sash, sword and rosette medallion'. Now that's what I call Royalty with the Common Touch. Not to mention his flag-bedecked Mercedes. Gotta love that. He kinda reminds me of Giancarlo Giannini in the original Swept Away'. Except for his politics, of course. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 10 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:23 -0800 (PST) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 129725.30949...@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Uh, I posted that Dan --- On Sun, 12/13/09, tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:24 PM Thanks, Rich, for letting us know about the sad news of the passing of the Prince of Seborga, whose official motto for his Principality was: Sub umbra sede (Sit in the shade). I miss this guy already! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs ??? ?? ??? ? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Message: 11 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:56:52 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 20091213165652.4a9aee73.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:23 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Uh, I posted that Dan Actually, Dan, Rich Thomas posted it at 1054 MST with the title, Death of a Benz Driver. You posted it at 1412 MST with the title, Prince of Serborgia Obit. It's an interesting story anyway. I even looked up the female pretender to the throne on Wikipedia. There's a lot to read. Craig -- Message: 12 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:02:56 -0800 (PST) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 645920.1598...@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ooops. ?Didn't see the earlier post. My apologies. Dan --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 6:56 PM On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:42:23 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Uh, I posted that Dan Actually, Dan, Rich Thomas posted it at 1054 MST with the title, Death of a Benz Driver. You posted it at 1412 MST with the title, Prince of Serborgia Obit. It's an interesting story anyway. I even looked up the female pretender to the throne on Wikipedia. There's a lot to read. Craig _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sub umbra sede
Giorgio Carbone claimed the sovereignty of Seborga (population 364) from the Italian government in 1963 and his subjects gave him the title Sua Tremendita or Your Tremendousness, because he sprinkled his conversation with swear words. http://www.theage.com.au/national/obituaries/italian-prince-whose-perks-were-free-cheese-and-ham-20091206-kcs8.html I KNEW there had to be a good reason for that Title! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 12 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:37:03 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sub umbra sede To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4b25a4cf.6020...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well,since I am traveling and visiting the rels, I have nothing better to do than to take advantage of the away time to sleep late on a Sunday morning, watch Sun morning car shows and Jay Leno vids, and cruise the news sites. Now that it is later I can do the same and also drink beer. I might have to fancy myself some kind of third-world royalty, and drive a Benz around with a parrot on my shoulder. (That is what my son wanted to do when I got him the 300SD) Maybe put some flags on the front fenders (not the reindeer antlers that seem to be the side window fashion this Festive Winter Occasion Time of Year). --R _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Black and Tan
Hi Curt, Re: the Guinness/Bass vs Guinness/Harp Apparently that depends on your location and, to some degree, your politics. Around here it's Guinness/Bass. There are some for whom the image of the Guinness in a superior position to the Bass in the pint glass has a certain. symbolic political attractiveness. The wikipedia link below goes into that a little bit, along with some other variations.Since it is wiki, take it with a grain of salt, of course. My personal preference is for the Guinness, undiluted, possibly owing to my McNulty (County Cork) roots. :) Erin Go Bragh! Tom Schuch SE Connnecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Black and Tan To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 597316.91805...@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ACH! Tom Nooo! Its Guinness and HARP! Bass is English beer... -Curt Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:13:31 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 49, Issue 67 To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay109-w2447813a2eea5828644f2b8d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jaime, He may have been referring to what is popularly known as a Black and Tan.? Yuengling made one with that name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan I am familiar with it as Guinness over Bass Ale, but there are a number of variations, as the article states.? Certainly worth a trip to treat your uncle to a few of those! Cheers, and make mine Guinness! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bommelmutze fur deine Stern
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:16 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bommelmutze fur deine Stern. Hi Rolf, I dunno if I can wait for ChowdahQ '10 to get one of those, Curt! :) Nice bit of Holiday whimsy. Red and white with a bit of piping on the lower edge perhaps something in a soft rust tone, to match my color scheme. Any clever ideas to keep it in place at 80 mph highway speeds? Green florist wire would probably do it. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 57065.63384...@web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL. Yeah I'll get one, make it a prize for ChowdaQ 010. Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:52 -0500 From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Subject: [MBZ] Bommelmutze fur deine Stern. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4b2124d0.1020...@winmutt.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anyone interested in one of these? One of my tenants manages a crochet store, I was going to see if there was enough interest to get a bunch of these made. I was thinking in red/offwhite, red/green and blue/offwhite http://www.m-technik.com/ebay/Bommel5.jpg Anyone? _ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 49, Issue 67
Hi Jaime, He may have been referring to what is popularly known as a Black and Tan. Yuengling made one with that name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan I am familiar with it as Guinness over Bass Ale, but there are a number of variations, as the article states. Certainly worth a trip to treat your uncle to a few of those! Cheers, and make mine Guinness! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 9 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:43:03 -0500 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bc94d7930912101443l5f0c1f6x89ec6ddc2d183...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 My uncle, who is generally an encyclopedia when it comes to most of the experiences in his life, has told me about this place. He lived in the village in the early 60s and has all sorts of bizarre stories from the perspective of a struggling jazz musician. He has spoke of the light and dark, or any mixture of the two beer frequently. I guess I'll have to take him there so he can share more of his vivid memory. Jaime _ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bommelmutze fur deine Stern
Hi Dwight, Make them Surely you jest! I was figuring to commission Rolf to enlist the services of his crochet shop manager. As to the highway speed, I have had the 300D up to 85mph, ... and it still had some more... but I never really wanted to push it past that... it's only 83 horses, or so I think, and nearly 35 years old now. I didn't want to tempt fate. BTW, I just dropped it off at a local MB mechanic who works out of his house... to hopefully get his insight and expertise to address the oil consumption issue. Recommended by a W123 fella I know. good W115 guys are few and far between these days. My previous guy is down after having a stroke. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:00:46 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bommelmutze fur deine Stern To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 009701ca79ec$9bd12c20$d37384...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK Tom I have a better idea-we will have ein Bommelmutze contest at the ChowdahQ-you can start making and selling them now. And for the record the 240D version only needs to meet 70 mph test for staying on die Stern Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslideid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Yuengling
Hi Gary, I have known Yuengling as a Philly beer, and the oldest brewery in America. http://www.yuengling.com/distrib.htm Looks like they are still Mid-Atlantic/ East Coast regional beer. I did find this note in their history: 1999 Yuengling purchases former Stroh brewery in Tampa, Florida. Florida market begins selling America's Oldest beer. I don't know if that explains what you see, but is that in your general neighborhood? Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 6 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:27:48 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling To: Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com, Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 8b0e7cce0912091527hf0f016k517c633d329d8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? _ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tampa
Hi Andrew, The Don Cesar Resort in St. Pete's Beach, highly recommended for dinner and drinks. Bring money. Salvador Dali Museum, St. Petersburg. Got kids? Tarpon Springs, FL, north of Clearwater. Greek Heritage Community, Sponge Diver boat rides and exhibits, etc. No affiliation. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:05:25 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - What's fun to do in Tampa? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: b8cdcef40912070605r35e8fd09y331430230b449...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We're spending Xmas in Tampa visiting friends, who just moved there. Will it be warm enough to swim at the beach? If so, which is the best beach wuthin an hour's drive of Tampa? What are some other fun things to do there? Any great local restaurants or dives?? Museums or galleries? Mercedes collections? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, which will not be coming along.. _ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+gamesscope=cashbackform=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid
Hi Curt, How long have I been on the list Sheesh. I thought the list might be interested to see that someone has apparently tried a MB diesel/hydrogen hybrid. I hadn't heard of anyone doing that before with a Mercedes. If that has already been discussed in here, apparently I missed it. Or perhaps it was discussed before I joined the list, somewhere around the turn of the millennium, give or take a year or so. Mea culpa. At any rate, what I didn't miss was the sarcastic tone of your response, which I thought was uncalled for. Jerry: George, we are trying to have a civilization here. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid? To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 380904.2046...@web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How long have you been on the list? There was talk of this a year or more ago. IIRC Luther said they'd tried it in his truck fleet and while mileage did improve measurably so did moisture and the problems attendant with it. There was an interesting bit on Talk of teh Nation - Science Friday on NPR last week about the difficulties of getting real hydrogen from water. They were talking about it for use in houses using solar cells to create hydrogen which was stored for later use but the same problems would I think be present in its use in a car. Nothing is free. People will tell you that the alternator produces more electricity than the car needs but those are people that don't understand voltage regulators very well -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:30:16 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid? To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay109-w10f68bf600297d51a73e058d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1449566980.html First I heard of this. No affiliation, etc. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid?
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1449566980.html First I heard of this. No affiliation, etc. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz for Sale - $500 (North Stonington, Ct)
I want to STAY married, so I can't even think about another car. :) but a 'very good body and an all leather interior in beautiful condition (prolly MB Tex, not leather) for $500 bucks. He thinks it may need a battery. Who knows? Good grief, Charley Brown. http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1389142738.html No affiliation, but somebody may want to snap this up. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 300D W115 1989 BMW 325ix, 1989 BMW 325ic 1979 BMW 323i Euro, 1977 320i (carbed) 1978 320i (parts car) and whatever it is my wife drives :) VW Passat Turbo-Wagon I can resist anything except temptation. Oscar Wilde. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091013/63a4aa9e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] AAA
Hi Kaleb, I am an 18 year subscriber to AAA, and I plan to continue with them. I also have bought it as a gift every year for my two grown sons. Their services have come in handy on any number of occasions... e.g a Volvo breaking down at night in a bad section of Philadelphia (taking a shortcut to the restaurant SEEMED like a good idea at the time!) ... they had me on the flatbed within 15 mins. I have no complaints about their services, and I have utilized the discounts for hotels, trains etc The peace of mind, not so much for me, but for my wife and sons, is a big factor, and worth it to me. As someone who tinkers with older cars, btw, I have gotten more than my money's worth out of AAA over the years. It's kind of like insurance it may seem like a waste of money- until you need it! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:11:15 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] AAA To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4ac2be43.8060...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Any of you guys have AAA? Thinking about signing up and looking at that premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 200 mile tow. Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow? Is it worth the price? Do you get good discounts at hotels and such? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com _ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MLOGENpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090930/5f095af4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 on ebay
Hi Curt, You are probably right on that. I just did a photo comparison of the two (116 vs 123). At a junkyard (at midnight), with various bits missing, I could have easily mistaken the one for the other. It was years ago now. I just knew it was not a W115. Sorry about that. Less than an hour to go on that W115 300D. Curt. But it won't win you the 'cheapest jalopy' award anymore. $525 as we speak. Still a good deal. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 on ebay (2nd attempt) To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 158393.43991...@web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No worries Tom. The mirror you sent definitely doesn't fit, the screw holes are too close together and the whole mounting pad is too small. It definitely fits a 116 which I didn't realize until I saw another one just like it that I'd personally pulled from a 116. The 116 and 123 cars look an awful lot like one another from the outside... Maybe when I fix Dwight's odometer I'll pull his mirror and see which its more like. A '79 ought to give us a fair indication if there was a change. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:53:00 -0400 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] W115 on ebay (2nd attempt) To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay109-w42503b2851ae779037e9528d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Curt, You may want to check that mirror again. I personally removed it from a W115 at a local junkyard. It didn't fit my W115 quite correctly, but I used until I could find the correct replacement. Then I kept that as a spare. If it really doesn't fit... I don't understand, but I apologize. It definitely came off a W123, though I am not sure what year it was. As to the W115 on ebay, I am actually quite tempted by it. That injection pump is not a big deal, just a PITA to get at a couple of those nuts. I am curious, though, why someone went to the trouble of installing an extra fuel tank on a car with such little mileage. It may have seen heavy use early on, then sat neglected for years. I would have to add a doghouse to my honey-do list in a real hurry, though, if I were to buy it, so that I'd have some place to sleep the day I brought it home. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/88a3f15f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 300D on Ebay
Attention: Curt $360 with one day to go. 11 bids from 3 bidders (9 from one guy--- is that you, Curt?). And a shot to take back the 'cheapest jalopy' award at next year's ChowdahQ! :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170383099967viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT No affiliation, but I'd like to see it go to a good home. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090920/89ac7442/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 on ebay
Hi Kaleb, My email server did something screwy on that last post. I m not sure what the helll happened. It should only contain my message and the excerpt from Curt's message. Sorry about that. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/ab1733a1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 on ebay (2nd attempt)
Hi Curt, You may want to check that mirror again. I personally removed it from a W115 at a local junkyard. It didn't fit my W115 quite correctly, but I used until I could find the correct replacement. Then I kept that as a spare. If it really doesn't fit... I don't understand, but I apologize. It definitely came off a W123, though I am not sure what year it was. As to the W115 on ebay, I am actually quite tempted by it. That injection pump is not a big deal, just a PITA to get at a couple of those nuts. I am curious, though, why someone went to the trouble of installing an extra fuel tank on a car with such little mileage. It may have seen heavy use early on, then sat neglected for years. I would have to add a doghouse to my honey-do list in a real hurry, though, if I were to buy it, so that I'd have some place to sleep the day I brought it home. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 300D on Ebay To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 553633.18846...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I dunno Tom, don't YOU want to buy it and ensure your continuing standing? My jalopy is getting a new mirror today. Turns out the one you gave me fits 115 and 116, its all wrong for 123... Live and learn. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:36:22 -0400 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] W115 300D on Ebay To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay109-w172fa1c0119df7940d26298d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Attention: Curt $360 with one day to go. 11 bids from 3 bidders (9 from one guy--- is that you, Curt?). And a shot to take back the 'cheapest jalopy' award at next year's ChowdahQ! :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/90e918ab/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] w115 on ebay
Curt, Correction: I personally removed that mirror from a W123 at the junkyard. My previous post was incorrect. Tom Schuch _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/46e137bc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Emergency shutdown - was: ChowdahQ and the W115 on
Hi Philip, The process: First of all, a point of clarificatrion: this isn't really an emergency shut down. In my case, on my 1975 300D with a blown injection pump shut off valve, it is an ordinary shut down. I do it every time I drive the car until I get around to replacing that shut off valve with the one have as a spare. Many owners of older MB diesels are familiar with this process. It is fairly technically complicated, and not recommended for the faint of heart. Here's how it's done: 1) Turn ignition key to off position. 2) If your shut off valve is working properly, the engine should quit within a few seconds, since the fuel has been cut off. If the shut off valve is NOT working properly, turning off the key will have very little noticeable effect on the engine: it will continue to run for as long as the mechanical injection pump keeps fuel flowing. If you have a full fuel tank, you could leave it in the airport long term parking, come back a week later, and find it still going. Ask me how I know. :) 3) Pop your hood open. 4) Exit the car as you normally would. 5) Proceed to the front of the car and lift the hood. 6) This is the technically complicated part: it requires that you be able to (a) read or at least recognize the words STOP ENGINE; or (b) be able to recognize the color red. 7) Proceed with a hard target search under the hood for a small red button (about an inch square) on the driver's side of the engine over the injection pump with the words STOP ENGINE emblazoned on it. 8) Apply pressure to this button with your thumb--- or perhaps another digit that you are comfortable with-- in a downward motion. 9) This button cuts the fuel supply from the injection pump, and should kill the engine. Congratulation! You are done! BTW, I was kidding about the week in the airport parking lot. I can only personally vouch for the fact that it will continue running for over an hour and 15 minutes... which is when my bookkeeper arrived and asked me why my car was still running outside. :) As far as the dangers involved from my perspective, they are twofold: 1) the embarrassment of finding a plausible answer when your bookkeeper asks the question above; or far worse is 2) the danger of arriving at your local ChowdahQ a little late, and being warmly greeted by the group, including your camera-happy host, who surreptitiously photographs you in the act, and then posts the pic on a world-wide Mercedes Benz forum. Oh, the Horror! :) Thanks, Curt. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs (5, as of 4pm today) Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:20:03 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown - was: ChowdahQ and the W115 on ebay To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 20090916142003.e9cabbbe.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII tom tomscat wrote: And I was also pleased to have the opportunity to demonstrate the proper method for shutting down an old Mercedes diesel. after one has blown one's injection pump shut-off valve. It's a vanishing art, but I am doing my part to keep it from becoming a lost one. Don't hold out on us. Not all of us are able to travel to a ChowdahQ. What's the proccess? How's it done? What are the dangers? Enquiring minds want to know. -- Philip _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090917/c71683c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ChowdahQ and the W115 on ebay
Hi Curt, Yeah I see that W115. That's about 100 miles from me, but I'm keeping an eye on it. It may be about the same distance from you, btw. However, tomorrow I am getting another ummm... German car of a different make. :) so I am in no position to buy. I'm in enough trouble already, trust me. That injection pump issue may scare some buyers away, though, so it may go cheap but the auction still has 5 days to go. The W115's are great simple cars, Curt, if you want one, you should grab it. The 300D's are all automatics, of course. Did you see that he has it listed as a 6 cylinder? So I am not sure how much attention he's paid to it, especially since that's a green Roller parked next to it. It probably hasn't gotten his undivided attention. You might get a steal. . and then I'd lose out on the cheapest jalopy award at next year's ChowdahQ!! Thanks again, btw, Curt and Angie, for a great job on the event, and Kudos also to Dwight, in particular, and Fred and the others who contributed the food and camaraderie that went into making it a successful event. Great cars, nice people and ... well, New England weather. Sigh. Well, two outta three aint bad! Did I mention the food? Great food too. Thanks for sharing the pics also although I was a little disappointed that you didn't mention the name of your dog. For all the viewers, you may have noticed that there were two of us out there that afternoon in yellow foul weather gear. Curt and Angie's dog was the one in the custom-tailored, flannel-lined Foul Weather gear. (Which looked Fabulous, btw.) I was the other one, in the cheap, ill-fitting, unlined rain slicker. Oh, and I am the one NOT wearing a leash, largely because my wife was unable to attend. And I was also pleased to have the opportunity to demonstrate the proper method for shutting down an old Mercedes diesel. after one has blown one's injection pump shut-off valve. It's a vanishing art, but I am doing my part to keep it from becoming a lost one. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs SE Connecticut P.S. That maple bacon on the burgers was Dy No Mite! Message: 5 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] assist with diagnosis on no start To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 528538.4041...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 LOVE IT. I need me a 115. I emailed about one the other day listed as an '82 220D hoping it was really a '72, never did hear back... Hey Tom, theres a '75 300D on eBay, its in CT... -Curt _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090915/2ef9dfec/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes Benz 190 Diesel $500 obo - $500
Hi Curt, I recommend the following to ...ummm ... 'finesse' the deal: I needed an interior for my project car, and I found one on ebay. I put in a low bid, and sure enough I won it. Adding another car to the corral was... err problematic, so I needed to find a way to finesse it. The conversation went something like this: T: hey Honey, you know I have been looking for an interior for my car, right? SO: Yes T: well I found one on ebay. it s a nice blue leather. (She loves blue.) SO: how nice. T: So I have to get a car hauler this week to bring it back from NY. SO: (Thoughtful pause) Umm, why do you need a hauler to bring home an interior? T: Oh, didn't I mention that? the interior comes with a car wrapped around it. It's a package deal. :) We were both laughing by this point, and she knew that she had been had so It worked! Good luck, Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D 1989 BMW 325ix, 1989 BMW 325ic 1979 BMW 323i Euro, 1978 BMW 320i (parts car, with the blue interior) Message: 12 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes Benz 190 Diesel $500 obo - $500 To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 735128.10972...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think it will work. I've emailed the seller to find out what needs work means. If it means the diff is bad I don't want it... If it turns out okay I think it'll just show up at home. If I ask first she'll just say no. -Curt Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 06:58:05 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes Benz 190 Diesel $500 obo - $500 ??? (Intervale, NH) To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 001c01ca313c$68807bd0$398173...@net Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=iso-8859-1 Well give best offer and make home driveway argument on cost savings. Would this differential work? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.? 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:01 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes Benz 190 Diesel $500 obo - $500 (Intervale, NH) I'd get shot for buying a parts car but... This could be all the parts I need to get to making my 190D real nice... -Curt _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090909/4fd112fb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by that name. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of Bmws Message: 13 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 0kp100jvrxj26...@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed R. So aren't we all! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: I'm waiting for the larger Tatas. --R _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090827/666987be/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chowdah Q
Hi Curt, Forget sending the check please accept it, with my compliments, as a small donation for supplies for the ChowdahQ next month. It's not much, but what the heck. And... I knew it was a double entendre, btw. I just didn't want Fred to think that no one noticed his little witticism. :) On a more serious note, while looking for ta ta in the urban dictionary, (honest!) I stumbled on this: http://www.savethetatas.com/ I wasn't quite sure what to make of it at first, was it serious or tongue in cheekbut it actually IS a commercial enterprise that donates a portion of the proceeds to the fight against breast cancer. and does so with a sense of humor. Hmmm. I am still not sure what to make of it, but it is certainly a novel approach in my experience to a very serious subject. I am reminded of the whole Norman Cousins/cancer/Marx Brothers Films story a few years back. I personally think that there is not nearly enough laughter in the world. I try to do my part to correct that. As does Fred, I see. :) Ta ta, :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 8 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 486933.96944...@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom, I'm glad you posted, it reminded me to send you a check. That should go out tomorrow. What we've got from Fred is known as a double entendre... Heres a little comic that illustrates what I'm getting at: http://chugworth.com/?strip_id=65 :) This is almost as much fun as the time I posted what a maroon and Chuck L (what ever happened to him?) thought I ment moron and reminded me that maroon is a color... -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:30:55 -0400 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay109-w42b269572258d40ffc10978d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by that name. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of Bmws Message: 13 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 0kp100jvrxj26...@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed R. So aren't we all! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: I'm waiting for the larger Tatas. --R _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090827/3cd2db21/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mirror madness
Hi Curt, I have a manual driver's side mirror for a W123. I used it on my W115 until I could locate a W115 replacement. Chrome is a little weathered, but you may be able to clean it up a bit. It's yours for the cost of shipping. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (daily driver) ... along with a home for feral BMWs Message: 8 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: [MBZ] Mirror madness To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 215056.40027...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Finally got a chance to pull apart the mirror on the 240D. Sprayed some PB Blaster into the rear joint and started working it back and forth. Started to get some good improvement and then pop and the arm broke loose inside. I can't take the assembly apart because the screw that holds the surround on is stripped... Crap. Who was it that had an extra drivers side mirror? List dad? So I moved to the passenger side mirror which is electric and has never worked right. Pulled the mirror off and removed a wasp nest (I'd killed the wasps last year, they hate carb cleaner) but the problem appeared to be in the switch. I've got no up movement at all (down works) and only intermittent in while out works fine. I cleaned the switch pretty good but no improvement, if anything its worse and now the switch is sticking. It looks like theres supposed to be a dot of grease in the bottom. So later on I'll take it apart and burnish everything with some 600 grit sandpaper and see if that helps... Not my best day ever On a good note the bed for the Ranger is completely welded up. I went by the local Ford garage to see about new bolts. Left there $150 poorer with the bolts to be here in a day or two (so next week sometime). I only broke one bolt taking it apart although the others don't look so great, so I'll reassemble with what I've got and put down the bedliner. When I get the new bolts I'll be sure to coat them with anti-seieze so hopefully I won't be in this spot again next time. There will be a next time since theres no way I could clear all the rust, hopefully I've bought a year or two though. _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090807/7c211de6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's list finds dujour
Hi Andrew, Try this one. No price listed, but looking for offers. http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1091801055.html Good luck. No affiliation. Tom Schuch 1975 300D W115 and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:02:00 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's list finds dujour To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: b8cdcef40904021002w5eebeec4v2eda35ba5e76...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Curt, Can you find me a thrifty New England (OK if it's rusty) 83 - 85 w123 with a decent BLUE interior that I could safely drive back to DC? BTW, my definition of thrift is under $1K. Should you succeed, my standard barter arrangement applies (heirloom tomatoes or seedlings, of commensurate value). Andrew 1983 300TD white/blue On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ctd/1102668712.html - Nice looking car but overpriced. http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1103090304.html - love this color, also overpriced... http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/ctd/1102199197.html - This actually seems reasonable, wish it were a 5spd. As usual no affiliation etc... -Curt _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090402/106335e7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] top loading washer
Hi Kaleb, We recently downsized to a smaller house. Among other priorities, we wanted to bring the laundry up to the first floor from the basement. So I converted our pantry into a pantry/laundry, installed the plumbing and electrics, and we purchased new, full-size stackable machines to save space: Whirlpool Duet front loading washer and dryer . The machines are quiet, energy efficient, and do a great job. She loves the machines... and I have had no problems and no complaints. (Our previous machine, a Kenmore purchased in 1979, stayed with the old house, and was still running fine, btw.) I agree with Barry's comments below re: water use and energy efficiency. I also agree that there seems to be a general consensus among the repairmen that Maytag is not the Gold Standard it once was. Some of their products were apparently made by Samsung. Whirlpool has bought them out, along with a few other manufacturers. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a few BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 4 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Message: 8 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:37:57 -0700 From: Barry Stark barryst...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 01c9b0f9$ae8a8a30$0b9f9e...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kaleb- We have a Frigidaire Affinity ATFB6000 That I inherited when my Mom passed away last year. I believe that my Mom had picked it as it was the 'Consumer Reports' best buy at the time. I think that it is almost two years old now and we have had no problems plus it seems to clean well. These new machines work a bit different than the older ones as they tumble slowly one direction then the other and the spin is quite fast. They no longer have a transmission as the motor reverses direction and drives the tub with a toothed belt. Because the spin is faster the clothes get much dryer so the dryer has to work less to dry the clothes. It is very important to use only the HE(High Efficiency)low sudsing detergent or the over sudsing of the regular detergent will eventually gum up the works and cause problems. The HE is a little difficult to find some places right now as it is fairly new yet but in the not too distant future I believe it may be the norm for all new machines. I think my wife gets it at COSTCO. The other words to the wise, that I learned by reading up on the things, is to be sure and leave the door ajar till things dry out in the tub or you may end up with some mold. I don't know if you have a water shortage problem where you are but we do here in So. Calif. And these machines use very little water compared to the top loaders and I believe they use less electricity as well. From what I have heard the new Maytags are not the same as the old since they were bought out by someone but that's just what I've heard. The best way to find out about reliability is if you have an indy appliance repairman that you can trust to give some unbiased informed about reliability and maintenance costs. Barry Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. _ Internet Explorer 8 – Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/55ef2174/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Reviving a w115 300-D
Hi, I swapped out the motor several times on my 1975 W115 300D a few years back. I was swapping engines between my 1975 and my 1976, and then (long story) I ended up swapping them back so probably a total of 3 removals and two installations. I was given a tip: you don't need an engine tilting mechanism. Leave the tranny attached, then lift the engine by using a strap around the engine just behind the oil sump. I used a cherry picker crane hoist. The weight of the tranny gives the engine an almost perfect tilt to clear the firewall, front end and front grill assembly. I did it singlehandedly in my garage, and I couldn't believe how easy it was. The first time it took me less than 10 mins to maneuver it out. The biggest problem I had was, while moving around the car checking all the clearances, I knocked over my coffee mug. Twice! :) I did use a little scissor jack under the tranny for support. And installation is the reverse of removal, of course. One of the MB manuals---maybe Chilton's, I'm not sure--- has a pic of the process with the strap attached correctly. That properly positioned strap made the job a piece of cake. BTW, I wish I had swapped in the block heater from the '76 to the '75 at the time, but that remains a project for. manana. Or maybe the day after manana. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a few BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 14 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:56:57 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reviving a w115 300-D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980903241956s37bd58f6qbbb84cd125b0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I found it easier to attach the tranny outside the car, then install the whole assembly- AFTER I got one of those engine tilting hoist accessories! If you have the transmission attached, it will act as a lever to keep the whole assembly from flopping. You just need to have someone hold the front of the engine to make sure it stays upright. -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090324/724facae/attachment.html _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090325/c70b5425/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 38, Issue 152
Hi Randy, I bought the 1975 300D in 1999 from a guy who had brought it east from Washington State. He had 'spun a bearing' in the journey, rebuilt the engine himself, but could never get it started. I bought it, adjusted the valves and the injection pump properly, and it's been running ever since. No idea how many miles on it the 5 digit odometer read 15,000 when I got it, and isn't working now. 115K, 215K?? Who knows. It runs fine, but burns some oil, no leaks. Too many projects so I haven't gotten around to doing a leak down test on it. Needs a paint job, has some surface rust. It's white, with a decent red MB Tex interior. Driver's seat needs to be redone. I have used it for several years off and on as a Daily Driver, but it currently serves as a backup. No block heater, although I have one--- but never installed it. May need a heater core. I need to put my spare shut off valve in the injection pump. I have a 1960's era heavy duty gas station battery charger for those really cold mornings. The 300D sometimes needs this assist on those mornings, but once started it runs like a champ. Due for a valve adjustment too. It's the first year Mercedes put the 5 cylinder diesel in the sedan, as you know. I do love it. Prior to this one, I also had a 1976 300D, the Dear Departed, which I cannibalized for lots of miscellaneous parts currently residing in boxes in my overstuffed garage. I thought I may need them some day, but it has now been about 10 years and I have hardly touched them. Let me know if there is something you need, I just may have it. I have a few BMWs, including a 1979 323i Euro restoration project, that have recently taken precedence, unfortunately. Cheers, Tom Schuch 1975 300D 1989 325ix, (The Ultimate Snowmobile) 1989 325ic (Sunmobile) 1979 323i Euro, 1978 320i (parts) ... and whatever the hell it is my wife drives SE Connecticut Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:45:23 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpkehemmaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 So Tom, I see by your signature line that you too have a 75 300D. What sort of condition is it in?? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 Hi Ed, Curt, FWIW, I run a social services agency in CT. For the last couple of years, we have operated a small, but fairly successful car donation fund-raising program (200-300 cars). We have had a number of Mercedes donated, including a very interesting 1983 230C Euro. It just so happens, that we were recently given a 1985 Peugeot 505. It is a 4 cylinder gas model, not the turbo-diesel. It runs and drives, needs some minor work, and is in overall tired but decent condition. If you have any interest, shoot me an email, and I can get you more details. It's an orphan, of course, since they haven't imported Peugeot to the US since about 1991, but it's an interesting an unique car, if you like that sort of thing. Price is negotiable. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090118/c1936657/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Peugeot 505
Hi Ed, Curt, FWIW, I run a social services agency in CT. For the last couple of years, we have operated a small, but fairly successful car donation fund-raising program (200-300 cars). We have had a number of Mercedes donated, including a very interesting 1983 230C Euro. It just so happens, that we were recently given a 1985 Peugeot 505. It is a 4 cylinder gas model, not the turbo-diesel. It runs and drives, needs some minor work, and is in overall tired but decent condition. If you have any interest, shoot me an email, and I can get you more details. It's an orphan, of course, since they haven't imported Peugeot to the US since about 1991, but it's an interesting an unique car, if you like that sort of thing. Price is negotiable. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:47:03 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 227793.40055...@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Wow, thats really pretty. I'd love to have an old pug... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:24:07 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: ??? f7b6bd1a0901161524o59b3941fvf13ee2c9163f4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/988008347.html I thought the turbo 505s were all gas and the diesels were all normally aspirated.? Would this be a slug with the slushbox or was it tuned with a high stall speed like in a 603 car to compensate for turbo lag?? I bet Mathieu knows.? Sure is a nice color! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/a5cc5cfe/attachment.html Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:56:36 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: fbc36f3b0901161656v5113226j560026818b89f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I always loved the look of the 505. Would be fun to have, but no idea where I'd ever get parts for one around here. Ed 300E 2009/1/16 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Wow, thats really pretty. I'd love to have an old pug... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:24:07 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7b6bd1a0901161524o59b3941fvf13ee2c9163f4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/988008347.html I thought the turbo 505s were all gas and the diesels were all normally aspirated. Would this be a slug with the slushbox or was it tuned with a high stall speed like in a 603 car to compensate for turbo lag? I bet Mathieu knows. Sure is a nice color! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/aa1e81b8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 112
Hi RLE, Not to put too fine a point on this, Fred was indeed referring to the ugly duckling Daimler Dart SP250. Gerry, however, (see below) was referring to the Daimler 250 V8 with the NOTAJAG plate that he saw in the hardware store parking lot. Although I did address the email to both Fred and Gerry, my comment was in reference to THAT car. Since he stated he was unable to get anything on it on Google, (possibly because he googled Daimler V250 instead of Daimler 250 V8) I gave him a link to help him out. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D SE Connecticut Message: 2 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:07:28 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] SP-250 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...Hi Fred and Gerry, I believe the car you saw was the Daimler 250 V8, basically a tarted up version of the Jaguar Mark II (fancier fluting on the chrome, etc).? That car had the same Hemi V8 that Daimler put in the SP250... He's talking about the SP250, a two passenger fiberglass sports car with a cloth folding top and fins out back. Not the four-door Jag in drag. RLE ? Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler V250 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Daimler SP250 is the car that I most drooled over when I was in the UK. The Lady next door had an A.C Cobra and an SP. I thought she was too old to drive such cars, she may have been 40, not old from my present point of view! I owned a Mini and wanted, lusted after, a real sports car. A V8 sexy/slippery looking sports car for me! Jeeez, I'm getting old! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:43 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Saw a Daimler V250 in perfect condition at hardware store parking lot today if anyones interested. Didn't get a chance to talk to owner. Custom tag read NOTAJAG. It looked like a Jag from a distance. Didn't pull up anything specific about it on Google. Gerry** _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Daimler 250 V8
Hi Fred and Gerry, I believe the car you saw was the Daimler 250 V8, basically a tarted up version of the Jaguar Mark II (fancier fluting on the chrome, etc). That car had the same Hemi V8 that Daimler put in the SP250. Jaguar bought Daimler in the early 60's, and eventually deep-sixed that V8 rather than have it compete with the vaunted Jaguar 6. Jag continued to use the Daimler badge for its premier models through the 80's, eventually morphing into the Van Den Plas and later the Sovereign (Majestic in the UK), I believe. It continued to give these models the highest level of trim, including the aforementioned distinctive fluted chrome on the 'bonnet' and the 'boot'. The famous Jaguar 5.2L V12 appeared in the Jaguar Daimler models as the Daimler Double Six. That Daimler Hemi that you saw is a very rare bird in the US. Was it for sale, by any chance? :) Google: Daimler 250 V8, instead of V250. http://www.daimler-v8.co.uk/history.htm Tom Schuch 1975 300D SE Conn USA Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler V250 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Daimler SP250 is the car that I most drooled over when I was in the UK. The Lady next door had an A.C Cobra and an SP. I thought she was too old to drive such cars, she may have been 40, not old from my present point of view! I owned a Mini and wanted, lusted after, a real sports car. A V8 sexy/slippery looking sports car for me! Jeeez, I'm getting old! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:43 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Saw a Daimler V250 in perfect condition at hardware store parking lot today if anyones interested. Didn't get a chance to talk to owner. Custom tag read NOTAJAG. It looked like a Jag from a distance. Didn't pull up anything specific about it on Google. Gerry _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 Radiator
Hi Tim, I have an auto radiator out of a 1976 300D sitting in my garage. It appears a little different from the one I currently have in my 1975 300D, seemed to fit a little tighter as I recall. Not sure if it is original equipment for the '76 or not. Previous owner may have swapped it from something else. It's been sitting for 5 or 6 years, so I'm not sure how good it is, but it came out of a running vehicle. You are welcome to it for the cost of shipping. Tom Schuch 1975 300D SE CONN Message: 6 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:56:30 -0400 From: Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] W115 radiator? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I'm hunting a w115 automatic radiator for my '74 240D, I've got a pinhole leak in mine somewhere. None of my usual radiator dealers carry this, the dealer says there's one in America and quoted me $1355.25 (not a typo, parts girl was shocked but double-checked the part number). I don't know many MB-specific parts dealers, but the ones I Google'd up don't stock the radiator itself. Is my best course of action to take out the existing radiator and try to find+solder the leak, ship one from a parts yard and hope it's in good condition, or can anyone suggest a place that might have one? The car gets use pretty much daily so I would strongly prefer to replace with a known good one and get the existing one recored at my leisure, but I can deal with doing it quickly if that's the only way. Thanks, -Tim _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Potential engine rebuild
Hi Ralph, My 1975 300D developed a serious knock a few years ago after I demonstrated 'hard acceleration in a diesel', by downshifting up a hill. As I crested the hill, I heard this awful knock. I drove it directly home and parked it. I had several consultations with friends, all of whom sadly shook their heads in sympathy. With the help of a stethoscope I located the source of the noise in the block at the #1 cylinder. The consensus of opinion was that this was a serious problem, probably a rod. I finally brought in the services of local expert, John 'Mercedes', who suggested replacing the timing chain tensioner. That resulted in no change, so over the phone he said there is one more thing that might do it replace the copper seals on the injectors. Bingo! I replaced the copper seal on the injector for the #1 cylinder and VOILA!... The knock was GONE. It's been fine ever since. I LOVE those 2 dollar repairs vs an engine rebuild! The problem arose apparently because I had swapped out a few injectors from my other engine without replacing the seals, as recommended by Mercedes. Now I know WHY they recommend the replacement. :) Ralph, I don't know if you have had your injectors out... or if this could be your problem, but for a couple of bucks it may be worth a shot. I also found the stethoscope to be invaluable in pinpointing the exact location of the source of the noise. Good luck, Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D SE Connecticut _ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donating a vehicle
Hi, I run a a 501 (c) 3 charitable organization, and we have been operating a car donation fund raising program for the past couple of years. My agency is a small residential facility for adolescent males in Ct. We have probably processed over 200 cars in that time. The IRS rules changed in January 2005. A donor can deduct up to $500 (under Schedule A Itemized Deductions--- if you don't itemize, check with your accountant to see if you can claim a deduction) for a donated vehicle with an acknowledgement from the donee noting the donation and the proceeds realized. In order to deduct MORE than $500, certain conditions must be met: 1) the charity actually realizes proceeds of more than $500 from the sale of the vehicle, after any expenses incurred in fixing it up before sale. In this case, the charity is required to send a completed Form 1098-C to the donor, within a month, stating the proceeds of the sale, less any expenses incurred. That number is the amount that the donor can deduct on Schedule A. The charity is also required to send a copy of this Form 1098-C to the IRS, listing the donor and the donor's Social Security or Tax ID. OR 2) the charity uses the vehicle in its 'agency mission. In other words, the vehicle is NOT resold, or is resold at below market value to a needy family, for example. Again the charity is required to complete a 1098-C, as above, and send it to both the donor and the IRS. The charity states the disposition of the vehicle, and lists the Kelley Blue Book PRIVATE PARTY VALUE of the vehicle at the time of the disposition. That number is the amount that the donee may deduct on Schedule A. The charity must follow certain guidelines to meet the IRS criteria for 'agency mission'. In my case, we have done all of the above over the past couple of years with our donated vehicles. Many of the donations are not servicable any more, and we arrange for those to go directly to auction, where they are mostly snapped up by salvage yards and parts dealers. We have taken several vehicles into 'agency mission service': e.g., right now I have a 1998 Jeep Cherokee Classic in great shape that we use on a daily basis at the agency. I have a number of servicable donated vehicles for sale currrently, priced from as little as $150 to as much as $4200. I have had a several Mercedes donated, including a 1984 230CE Euro project car, and a couple of W123s. Since I have a house full of adolescent males, including some budding gearheads, we are also beginning to use the donated vehicles as part of an incentive program: youths can work toward earning ownership of a vehicle upon graduation, and along the way they can learn about it and work on it. Since this is incorporated into our life skills development program, it meets the criteria for 'agency mission'. A true win-win-win for the donor, the donee and the kids. Needless to say, it has generated considerable excitement among our population of teenage males! Additionally, we are using one donated vehicle (at present) in a community service project for the agency. We have a 1991 Volvo 240 wagon that our kids will make some minor repairs to, clean it up, etc, and then we, in turn, wiil seek out a needy local family and give the car to them. It's a way for our kids to learn to give back to those less fortunate. Kind of a Habitat for Humanity' with cars. This too has generated considerable interest among the youths in the program, as well as allowing the donor to realize the full allowable IRS deduction. We find that most donors are not making the donation for the tax write-off, but rather they simply have a car they need to get rid of, or have no further use for, and they find they can't get much for it in a trade. They would just as soon have it do someone some good. Plus they don't want the hassle of selling it themselves. The bottom line is that the donation is a tax deduction, NOT a tax CREDIT. Most people would probably get a better return, if that is their primary objective, by selling the car for cash, assuming one can find a buyer. Our program accepts donations of any car, truck, RV or boat, regardless of condition, and regardless of location. I urge people to donate locally where possible. Small local charities are often able to get a better bang out of a donated buck, with all due respect to the large, and certainly deserving, national charities, like the American Cancer Society, etc. I have written this rather hurriedly in between Saturday chores, so please contact your accountant if you have any questions about any of the above in case I have overlooked something. Tom Schuch 1975 300D W115 SE Connecticut _ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 ___
Re: [MBZ] Donating a vehicle
Hi Andrew, I hope the info was useful for you. The car donation program has been a lot of fun for us, not to mention financially helpful to the program: New England Adolescent Treatment Center, Inc. (NEAT) Groton CT. We are very grateful to those generous folks who have donated to us. The program provides many benefits: it rids the community of many junk cars; it helps recycle cars; it helps our kids learn some life skills, along with perhaps piquing their interest in a car hobby or vocation; it provides a community service helping the less fortunate obtain transportation for work, etc; and it provides a tax benefit to those who donate. win-win-win. My son always reminds me that... if we can teach a kid to fix a car in this automotive oriented society... he'll never starve. He can go anywhere and find a job. Tom Schuch Executive Director, NEAT SE CT 1975 300D W115 Message: 15 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:38:38 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Donating a vehicle To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow - great information!! Thanks to all, and specially Tom. What is the name of your organization? On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM, tom tomscat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I run a a 501 (c) 3 charitable organization, and we have been operating a car donation fund raising program for the past couple of years. My agency is a small residential facility for adolescent males in Ct. We have probably processed over 200 cars in that time. The IRS rules changed in January 2005. A donor can deduct up to $500 (under Schedule A Itemized Deductions--- if you don't itemize, check with your accountant to see if you can claim a deduction) for a donated vehicle with an acknowledgement from the donee noting the donation and the proceeds realized. In order to deduct MORE than $500, certain conditions must be met: 1) the charity actually realizes proceeds of more than $500 from the sale of the vehicle, after any expenses incurred in fixing it up before sale. In this case, the charity is required to send a completed Form 1098-C to the donor, within a month, stating the proceeds of the sale, less any expenses incurred. That number is the amount that the donor can deduct on Schedule A. The charity is also required to send a copy of this Form 1098-C to the IRS, listing the donor and the donor's Social Security or Tax ID. OR 2) the charity uses the vehicle in its 'agency mission. In other words, the vehicle is NOT resold, or is resold at below market value to a needy family, for example. Again the charity is required to complete a 1098-C, as above, and send it to both the donor and the IRS. The charity states the disposition of the vehicle, and lists the Kelley Blue Book PRIVATE PARTY VALUE of the vehicle at the time of the disposition. That number is the amount that the donee may deduct on Schedule A. The charity must follow certain guidelines to meet the IRS criteria for 'agency mission'. In my case, we have done all of the above over the past couple of years with our donated vehicles. Many of the donations are not servicable any more, and we arrange for those to go directly to auction, where they are mostly snapped up by salvage yards and parts dealers. We have taken several vehicles into 'agency mission service': e.g., right now I have a 1998 Jeep Cherokee Classic in great shape that we use on a daily basis at the agency. I have a number of servicable donated vehicles for sale currrently, priced from as little as $150 to as much as $4200. I have had a several Mercedes donated, including a 1984 230CE Euro project car, and a couple of W123s. Since I have a house full of adolescent males, including some budding gearheads, we are also beginning to use the donated vehicles as part of an incentive program: youths can work toward earning ownership of a vehicle upon graduation, and along the way they can learn about it and work on it. Since this is incorporated into our life skills development program, it meets the criteria for 'agency mission'. A true win-win-win for the donor, the donee and the kids. Needless to say, it has generated considerable excitement among our population of teenage males! Additionally, we are using one donated vehicle (at present) in a community service project for the agency. We have a 1991 Volvo 240 wagon that our kids will make some minor repairs to, clean it up, etc, and then we, in turn, wiil seek out a needy local family and give the car to them. It's a way for our kids to learn to give back to those less fortunate. Kind of a Habitat for Humanity' with cars. This too has generated considerable interest among the youths in the program, as well as allowing the donor to realize the full allowable IRS deduction. We find that most donors are not making the donation
[MBZ] New England chowdah fest
Did I hear someone say: New England MB chowdah fest? Where would one find details on that? Tom Schuch SE Conn 1975 W115 300D and some BMWs and whatever it is my wife drives _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption
Thanks for the feedback, Peter. I was quite surprised to see it the other day, since it was originally posted last August. :) I was on vacation and I missed the response the first time around apparently. -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2006 12:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption I would suspect the normal causes here -- rebuilt to Chevy standards and NOT MB, with the result that it has blown oil since day one. Better to have done so at once, but I would pull the head and check on valve guide clearance and composition and cylinder wall wear. You cannot check the piston clearance without engine disassembly, but I'm willing to bet you would find 0.005 + piston clearance, valve guides WAY oversize (up to 0.005 clearance) and badly worn liners. If you are lucky, it's just the valve guides that are bad -- it's quite common to find steel rather than bronze exhaust guides, and they wear oversize almost instantly, causing severe oil consumption. Also take a look in the manifold side of the vacuum pump -- if there is oil in there, replace the diaphram in the vacuum pump. Clean out the threaded hole where the retainer bolt goes COMPLETELY and use the Loctite on a perfectly clean bolt and hole, else the blasted thing will unscrew and cause the same problem again, along with a fractured vac pump and worn out vac pump cam! If the vac pump diaphram is bad (lots of smoke at idle, blue, definitely oil and not diesel fuel), chances are the prechambers are burned badly by now too. Peter On Aug 16, 2006, at 12:26 AM, tom tomscat wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Message: 15 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:39:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Another possible cause is stuck/ seized oil rings - this unfortunately won't come up in a compression test but will cause massive oil consumption. I had this problem with mine when I bought my 300D Peter -Original Message- From: tom tomscat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 August 2006 07:26 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption Dear List, My 1975 300D 115 chassis is using a lot of oil. I bought the car in 2000 from a guy who who had rebuilt the engine after 'spinning a bearing', but he could never get it to start. I took it to two shops, both of whom gave up on it as a hopeless. However, I checked it myself and I found that all the valves were set wrong1 , and the injection pump was way out of adjustment. Dont ask me what those shops checked, btw! I corrected both of those issues and the car started, and has been running ever since, off and on as a daily driver. The car uses a lot of oil probably a quart in less than 100 miles. Some of it is from a leak that appears to be coming from the connections around the injection pump, and I hope to solve that this week. It is a small drip that can account for some of the total consumption, but not nearly all. It also smokes. The smoke is a major concern, especially since the previous owner rebuilt the motor not that long ago. As I was thinking that over, it occurred to me that the head bolts were never re-tightened after the engine's break-in period, as far as I know. The previous owner never got the car started, of course, and, in the excitement that I experienced in getting it finally started, I completely forgot about it. My question is, it has now been probably 20k at least since the rebuild. Should the head bolts be re-torqued per specs and could this have anything to do with the oil smoke? Please advise. Thanks. Tom Schuch 1975 300D W115 and a few other vehicles SE Conn USA _ Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page http://www.live.com/?addtemplate=football
[MBZ] Somber Reminder to work safely
Sorry to be the bearer of sad tidings below, but just a little reminder in the public interest to always work safely. Please remember to chock those tires and always use redundant safety systems to support your vehicle. I always test my jack stand setup by rocking it to see if I can knock it over before I venture under it. Tom Schuch 1975 300D SE Connecticut USA Police Release ID of Man Killed in Ledyard CT Published on 1/12/2007 in The New London (CT) Day Region » Region News Ledyard A man who was killed Thursday when a car he was working on fell on him was identified today by police as Robert F. Dunn. Dunn, 72, was working on a car at his home at 330 Gallup Hill Road when the accident happened. The car was elevated on ramps when it moved and landed on him, police said. He was pronounced dead at William W. Backus Hospital. _ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001
[MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption
Dear List, My 1975 300D 115 chassis is using a lot of oil. I bought the car in 2000 from a guy who who had rebuilt the engine after 'spinning a bearing', but he could never get it to start. I took it to two shops, both of whom gave up on it as a hopeless. However, I checked it myself and I found that all the valves were set wrong1 , and the injection pump was way out of adjustment. Dont ask me what those shops checked, btw! I corrected both of those issues and the car started, and has been running ever since, off and on as a daily driver. The car uses a lot of oil probably a quart in less than 100 miles. Some of it is from a leak that appears to be coming from the connections around the injection pump, and I hope to solve that this week. It is a small drip that can account for some of the total consumption, but not nearly all. It also smokes. The smoke is a major concern, especially since the previous owner rebuilt the motor not that long ago. As I was thinking that over, it occurred to me that the head bolts were never re-tightened after the engine's break-in period, as far as I know. The previous owner never got the car started, of course, and, in the excitement that I experienced in getting it finally started, I completely forgot about it. My question is, it has now been probably 20k at least since the rebuild. Should the head bolts be re-torqued per specs and could this have anything to do with the oil smoke? Please advise. Thanks. Tom Schuch 1975 300D W115 and a few other vehicles SE Conn USA