Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
That's what I would do. Hopefully all the piece/parts are there.I could tell if Damien would ever call me. He's getting another call in 30 minutes. So what's your gut feeling, Kaleb? If it's as presented..$1500? Less? Bob R On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
good point Bob R On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
There are any number of suppliers out there who make conversion brackets to go from a York to a rotary. I looked into this when I had the 250LWB (123 chassis) and had no problem coming up with any number of sources. It just made a lot of sense - especially when you live in a warm climate like FL or AZ Dan --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:46 AM HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
I believe in originality and OE/OEM parts wherever practical, and with the resources we have in Rusty, Kaleb and internet searches, it is almost always practical. However, a york rebuilt has a very short life cycle/MTBF. A new York is a little better, but expensive. A japanese rotary used compressor, probably has more MTBF than a new York and will be a lot less drag on the engine. Look for a wreck with under 100k or with an obviously new compressor. To me, in the PHX area, a reliable A/c system is a big deal. A 115 240D probably never going to be a museum piece, and as long as the compressor mount is on the engine, it can always be converted back to a york if you decide to spend the money ($30k to 150k) to restore and show it. good point Bob R On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
I have converted a couple of cars from Yorks to Sanyos using aftermarket adapter brackets and fittings. There is enough demand out there that the parts are easily found on the 'net and not terribly expensive. I helped a friend do a 108 conversion a couple of years ago, and even with a new compressor, all the parts and paying someone to charge it I think he had under $500 in the job. With the approach that AC work is either under $100 or over $1000 in most cases, he was pleased with the results. While the 108s were never light on MPG, he did say it had a noticeable effect on throttle response and power with the Sanyo as opposed to the York. I thought it was a quieter, too. We did all the work with the exception of pulling down the system and charging it. Dan --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 11:18 AM I believe in originality and OE/OEM parts wherever practical, and with the resources we have in Rusty, Kaleb and internet searches, it is almost always practical. However, a york rebuilt has a very short life cycle/MTBF. A new York is a little better, but expensive. A japanese rotary used compressor, probably has more MTBF than a new York and will be a lot less drag on the engine. Look for a wreck with under 100k or with an obviously new compressor. To me, in the PHX area, a reliable A/c system is a big deal. A 115 240D probably never going to be a museum piece, and as long as the compressor mount is on the engine, it can always be converted back to a york if you decide to spend the money ($30k to 150k) to restore and show it. good point Bob R On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
I was wondering that myself. Rusty has them for ~$200 IIRC. I'm thinking of putting one on my '78 240D this spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:31:21 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL Message-ID: sig.9977884c2d.4d18a339.70...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
Dieselhead wrote: HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. So why is it that of the more than half a dozen W123s that I have the _only_ one that still has freon is the '78 with a York? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
I have never had any problems with York compressors at all, but it has been a while since I have regularly driven a car with one. They used to be cheap to buy. I checked autozone for a quick reference and rebuilts are 155 new are 218 On 12/27/2010 10:18 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I believe in originality and OE/OEM parts wherever practical, and with the resources we have in Rusty, Kaleb and internet searches, it is almost always practical. However, a york rebuilt has a very short life cycle/MTBF. A new York is a little better, but expensive. A japanese rotary used compressor, probably has more MTBF than a new York and will be a lot less drag on the engine. Look for a wreck with under 100k or with an obviously new compressor. To me, in the PHX area, a reliable A/c system is a big deal. A 115 240D probably never going to be a museum piece, and as long as the compressor mount is on the engine, it can always be converted back to a york if you decide to spend the money ($30k to 150k) to restore and show it. good point Bob R On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: HP robbing. A new york is ~$250 and takes a lot of HP. A rotary compressor takes less HP and is easily available for a pick and pull for ~$25. Just puck a popular model...accord or camry. A 115 240D does not have an excess of HP to to waste on a York. The reliability/life cycle of a york is less than a Japanese rotary compressor. The sanyos MB uses typically last for 200-300k miles. why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3341 - Release Date: 12/26/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
I have heard the hp robbing argument before, but myself I would stick with a york. Aside from that, do they cool any different? I know my 76 240D way back when it ran the ac would get sold cold it would start blowing snow out of it if you were not careful. On 12/27/2010 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was wondering that myself. Rusty has them for ~$200 IIRC. I'm thinking of putting one on my '78 240D this spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:31:21 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL Message-ID:sig.9977884c2d.4d18a339.70...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
York is self oiled, so no oil in the freon charge. That's one plus there. Walt On Dec 27, 2010 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have heard the hp robbing argument before, but myself I would stick with a york. Aside from that, do they cool any different? I know my 76 240D way back when it ran the ac would get sold cold it would start blowing snow out of it if you were not careful. On 12/27/2010 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was wondering that myself. Rusty has them for ~$200 IIRC. I'm thinking of putting one on my '78 240D this spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:31:21 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL Message-ID:sig.9977884c2d.4d18a339.70...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed why not just replace it with the proper York compressor? They should be easy to find new/rebuilt/ On 12/26/2010 7:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html emailed the dude and he typeth: Bob, Thanks for responding to the ad. I can send you some interior photos tomorrow (Monday). She has been off the road for about half of her life a majority of that time in a car port in Tucson so the dash is not in the best condition. It does still have the original Becker AM/FM stereo which works, the AC however does not. It requires a compressor. I do not have any service records as my uncle did most of the work on it himself and I have not done any major repairs. I installed new brake lines, brakes, and shocks as well as put new tires on it. If you would like to set up a time to come check it out and take her for a spin let me know. I will be available until Wednesday. After that I am moving to Chicago, thus the reason I am selling it. If you want to set up a time to meet you can call me at 480-221-5165. -Damian Think I may go lookany worda of wisdom besides make sure the blower/fan works? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
With no AC in PHX, who cares about the blower/fan? You'll be driving it with the windows open anyway... Looks nice. Seems a little pricey, depending on the condition. Not bad if it's solid and everything else is in good shape, I guess. Dan --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 3:04 PM http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html emailed the dude and he typeth: Bob, Thanks for responding to the ad. I can send you some interior photos tomorrow (Monday). She has been off the road for about half of her life a majority of that time in a car port in Tucson so the dash is not in the best condition. It does still have the original Becker AM/FM stereo which works, the AC however does not. It requires a compressor. I do not have any service records as my uncle did most of the work on it himself and I have not done any major repairs. I installed new brake lines, brakes, and shocks as well as put new tires on it. If you would like to set up a time to come check it out and take her for a spin let me know. I will be available until Wednesday. After that I am moving to Chicago, thus the reason I am selling it. If you want to set up a time to meet you can call me at 480-221-5165. -Damian Think I may go lookany worda of wisdom besides make sure the blower/fan works? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
Looks like a pretty car on the outside, I would go look with maybe $2K cash if I was in the market and the market was somewhat more local. :) Did the '76 have a 5-digit odometer? I noticed it has the power antenna, too, when did those start? If the fan doesn't run with the defroster on I'd offer less, but it doesn't seem an unreasonable price if the 140K is trustworthy and you have basic fan function. You should probably also consider if the fan is bad how much ($$$) you care; it might be worthwhile to deal the seller down a bit and leave a satisfied wheeler. 115 prices are on the rise locally, and they are getting rare to boot, so if you particularly like 115s now might be the time to buy. For 140K I would think even $2500 a fair price if it is in good shape. Compare that to a new engine, for example, for the 300D. [In unrelated news, I saw a $2500 140 yesterday, bulletproof glass and bad transmission. Might even go see it while SWMBO is out of town, if her plane can get out tomorrow. :] Back on topic, I have a good-when-pulled compressor from the '74, and a collection of other bits that I thought might come in handy and were easy to pull off. Holler if you need something. -Tim but are you willing to buy from Damian? On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 3:31 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: With no AC in PHX, who cares about the blower/fan? You'll be driving it with the windows open anyway... Looks nice. Seems a little pricey, depending on the condition. Not bad if it's solid and everything else is in good shape, I guess. Dan --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 3:04 PM http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html emailed the dude and he typeth: Bob, Thanks for responding to the ad. I can send you some interior photos tomorrow (Monday). She has been off the road for about half of her life a majority of that time in a car port in Tucson so the dash is not in the best condition. It does still have the original Becker AM/FM stereo which works, the AC however does not. It requires a compressor. I do not have any service records as my uncle did most of the work on it himself and I have not done any major repairs. I installed new brake lines, brakes, and shocks as well as put new tires on it. If you would like to set up a time to come check it out and take her for a spin let me know. I will be available until Wednesday. After that I am moving to Chicago, thus the reason I am selling it. If you want to set up a time to meet you can call me at 480-221-5165. -Damian Think I may go lookany worda of wisdom besides make sure the blower/fan works? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
Seller took away all his bargaining power when he told you he's moving... Offer $1500, point out every little flaw, leave your card, prepare for a call. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:18:25 -0500 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL Message-ID: aanlktim1tvyby_evdonq=+jo2+fushhoqjaes0qpb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like a pretty car on the outside, I would go look with maybe $2K cash if I was in the market and the market was somewhat more local. :) Did the '76 have a 5-digit odometer? I noticed it has the power antenna, too, when did those start? If the fan doesn't run with the defroster on I'd offer less, but it doesn't seem an unreasonable price if the 140K is trustworthy and you have basic fan function. You should probably also consider if the fan is bad how much ($$$) you care; it might be worthwhile to deal the seller down a bit and leave a satisfied wheeler. 115 prices are on the rise locally, and they are getting rare to boot, so if you particularly like 115s now might be the time to buy. For 140K I would think even $2500 a fair price if it is in good shape. Compare that to a new engine, for example, for the 300D. [In unrelated news, I saw a $2500 140 yesterday, bulletproof glass and bad transmission. Might even go see it while SWMBO is out of town, if her plane can get out tomorrow. :] Back on topic, I have a good-when-pulled compressor from the '74, and a collection of other bits that I thought might come in handy and were easy to pull off. Holler if you need something. -Tim but are you willing to buy from Damian? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
He hasn't returned my call yet. Hopefully I can see it tomorrow. I plan on leaving him with what I wouldn't mind paying and if he calls he calls. I'm thinking he will.if he ever calls initially. Bob R On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Seller took away all his bargaining power when he told you he's moving... Offer $1500, point out every little flaw, leave your card, prepare for a call. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:18:25 -0500 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL Message-ID: aanlktim1tvyby_evdonq=+jo2+fushhoqjaes0qpb...@mail.gmail.comjo2%2bfushhoqjaes0qpb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like a pretty car on the outside, I would go look with maybe $2K cash if I was in the market and the market was somewhat more local. :) Did the '76 have a 5-digit odometer? I noticed it has the power antenna, too, when did those start? If the fan doesn't run with the defroster on I'd offer less, but it doesn't seem an unreasonable price if the 140K is trustworthy and you have basic fan function. You should probably also consider if the fan is bad how much ($$$) you care; it might be worthwhile to deal the seller down a bit and leave a satisfied wheeler. 115 prices are on the rise locally, and they are getting rare to boot, so if you particularly like 115s now might be the time to buy. For 140K I would think even $2500 a fair price if it is in good shape. Compare that to a new engine, for example, for the 300D. [In unrelated news, I saw a $2500 140 yesterday, bulletproof glass and bad transmission. Might even go see it while SWMBO is out of town, if her plane can get out tomorrow. :] Back on topic, I have a good-when-pulled compressor from the '74, and a collection of other bits that I thought might come in handy and were easy to pull off. Holler if you need something. -Tim but are you willing to buy from Damian? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '76 240D PHX CL
My guess is that the body is solid, if the car has always lived in the desert. Check for rust/bondo iin the rockers, behind the front wheel, in front of the rear wheel and in the trunk wells. It looks like Midnight blue. I don't remember ever seeing that before a 123. If I lived in Phx, I'd pay $2000 for it if it is as good as it appears it might be. 140k is not that much on a OM615 I think with a litte ingenuity you can rig a rotary compressor from a honda/toada to fit on the compressor mounting and even use the original belt size. A compressor from a u-pull should not be that expensive. Be sure to get the manifold and a good chunk of each hose with it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/2120225662.html emailed the dude and he typeth: Bob, Thanks for responding to the ad. I can send you some interior photos tomorrow (Monday). She has been off the road for about half of her life a majority of that time in a car port in Tucson so the dash is not in the best condition. It does still have the original Becker AM/FM stereo which works, the AC however does not. It requires a compressor. I do not have any service records as my uncle did most of the work on it himself and I have not done any major repairs. I installed new brake lines, brakes, and shocks as well as put new tires on it. If you would like to set up a time to come check it out and take her for a spin let me know. I will be available until Wednesday. After that I am moving to Chicago, thus the reason I am selling it. If you want to set up a time to meet you can call me at 480-221-5165. -Damian Think I may go lookany worda of wisdom besides make sure the blower/fan works? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
