Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
Selective laser sintering can do solid metal printed parts already, just that it's $ to do it. Walt On Jun 26, 2011 4:29 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That can actually be one but the machine is pretty pricey. I forget what it is called, electrodepositioner or something like that. --R On 6/26/11 3:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Donokd...@gmail.com writes: Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. I.e. just because Jay Leno can afford it, not sure it's realistic for most of us. Only a matter of time before (a) the intermediate casting step is eliminated because the 3-D printer can output metal directly, and (b) the technology gets cheap enough for everyone to have one... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. I.e. just because Jay Leno can afford it, not sure it's realistic for most of us. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. Yeah, I'm guessing that the junkyard is full of pivots that would work. Or I can use that weirdo brazing rod, and/or epoxy and a backing steel washer. I'm still digging my way to it. The dash is freed, I just need to get it out now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: I can use that weirdo brazing rod I like brazing. It's more forgiving than welding, at least at my limited ability, particularly with dissimilar metals and castings. And it's often completely adequate in terms of strength. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
Ah, but the possibility that you can just copy the part and print it out is just too cool. On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. I.e. just because Jay Leno can afford it, not sure it's realistic for most of us. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. I.e. just because Jay Leno can afford it, not sure it's realistic for most of us. Only a matter of time before (a) the intermediate casting step is eliminated because the 3-D printer can output metal directly, and (b) the technology gets cheap enough for everyone to have one... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
That can actually be one but the machine is pretty pricey. I forget what it is called, electrodepositioner or something like that. --R On 6/26/11 3:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: OK Donokd...@gmail.com writes: Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) Hm, I'm thinking a one-off custom casting might be beyond the usual budget for anything other than a true collector's item restoration. I.e. just because Jay Leno can afford it, not sure it's realistic for most of us. Only a matter of time before (a) the intermediate casting step is eliminated because the 3-D printer can output metal directly, and (b) the technology gets cheap enough for everyone to have one... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
could see that the intermediate pivot point between the motor and the arms was coming loose from the car body. A missing bolt? Another small session today. I removed the passenger-side under-dash panel. That's a tricky one: besides the two exposed bolts and the obvious screw there's a screw towards the firewall, and one inside the dash holding it to the ductwork. That's a nasty one. I found the beginnings of a mouse nest under there. Not good, but it looked old and neglected. (Thank you kitty!) With full access to the dash secured I then had a closer look at the loose wiper pivot. It appears that one of the two 10mm mounting bolts is missing, and the mounting ear (pot-metal) on the other one is broken. This promises to be fun, not! I _hate_ pot metal... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
Isn't pot metal the reason 3D printers were invented? super glue the broken pieces together, take a 3D photo - convert it to a CAD drawing, print out the piece in wax, take it to your local foundry, and have them cast it in something other than pot metal ;-) (See the video on Jay's garage) On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: could see that the intermediate pivot point between the motor and the arms was coming loose from the car body. A missing bolt? Another small session today. I removed the passenger-side under-dash panel. That's a tricky one: besides the two exposed bolts and the obvious screw there's a screw towards the firewall, and one inside the dash holding it to the ductwork. That's a nasty one. I found the beginnings of a mouse nest under there. Not good, but it looked old and neglected. (Thank you kitty!) With full access to the dash secured I then had a closer look at the loose wiper pivot. It appears that one of the two 10mm mounting bolts is missing, and the mounting ear (pot-metal) on the other one is broken. This promises to be fun, not! I _hate_ pot metal... -- Jim -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
*More than you want to know... * Sadly, you're right! On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: 560 SL - year and mileage? Color scheme? '86, 100-and-change-kmi. White/Blue. More than you want to know: http://userweb.windwireless.**net/~jimc/JSL2.htmlhttp://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSL2.html -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
The windshield wipers on Jill's 560SL are very loose, but linked tightly together indicating it's the motor linkage that's on its way out, that's what's kept this car grounded this very rainy Spring. Also, until this week the weather has been cold and wet and generally lousy, almost no top-down weather, especially for the less-than-hardy like my wife, so I haven't been inspired to work on this car. (I haven't even taken the hardtop off of _my_ car yet!) Anyway, we need the car so today I started pulling out the interior; I'd better hurry as the days are already getting shorter! I can't count the number of times I've done this particular operation on a 107 now, and it's getting old... Mirror, visors, top-rail trim, A-pillar trim. Glove box liner, console surround, ACC panel, stereo. One of the ACC panel's mounting ears was tearing off again, I used cyanoacrylate glue to re-secure it. We'll see. The console surround's rear locating pin was tearing off again, more glue there. Pull off light switch knob, 24mm wrench for light switch hex nut, unscrew parking brake knob. The parking brake knob split, as is so common with age. I pulled out the metal insert and wiped on a bit of Shoe Goo and re-inserted it, then used a small MB hose clamp to squeeze it back together as it dried. We'll see, I've generally had poor luck repairing these. 10mm socket on long extension for the two knee bolster bolts, T27 torx screwdriver for the airbag, large Allen socket for the steering wheel. Three screws hold in the driver's-side under-dash panel, I removed it and the light so I could put it in the trunk. Three tiny Philips screws removed the plastic retainer for the steering wheel brushes, then I could pull out the instrument cluster. It unplugs readily, just beware of flashing the clock power lead against ground! (I do it nearly every time and usually blow the fuse. I did it this time too, but the fuse somehow survived.) With the instrument cluster out I grabbed the wiper and wiggled it, I could see that the intermediate pivot point between the motor and the arms was coming loose from the car body. A missing bolt? Not sure, and I was out of time to continue. I suspect that this wiper problem could be dealt with without removing the dash, but there are other problems under there too. I plan to continue with dash removal. But another day, now it's time for breakfast... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
560 SL - year and mileage? Color scheme? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The windshield wipers on Jill's 560SL are very loose, but linked tightly together indicating it's the motor linkage that's on its way out, that's what's kept this car grounded this very rainy Spring. Also, until this week the weather has been cold and wet and generally lousy, almost no top-down weather, especially for the less-than-hardy like my wife, so I haven't been inspired to work on this car. (I haven't even taken the hardtop off of _my_ car yet!) Anyway, we need the car so today I started pulling out the interior; I'd better hurry as the days are already getting shorter! I can't count the number of times I've done this particular operation on a 107 now, and it's getting old... Mirror, visors, top-rail trim, A-pillar trim. Glove box liner, console surround, ACC panel, stereo. One of the ACC panel's mounting ears was tearing off again, I used cyanoacrylate glue to re-secure it. We'll see. The console surround's rear locating pin was tearing off again, more glue there. Pull off light switch knob, 24mm wrench for light switch hex nut, unscrew parking brake knob. The parking brake knob split, as is so common with age. I pulled out the metal insert and wiped on a bit of Shoe Goo and re-inserted it, then used a small MB hose clamp to squeeze it back together as it dried. We'll see, I've generally had poor luck repairing these. 10mm socket on long extension for the two knee bolster bolts, T27 torx screwdriver for the airbag, large Allen socket for the steering wheel. Three screws hold in the driver's-side under-dash panel, I removed it and the light so I could put it in the trunk. Three tiny Philips screws removed the plastic retainer for the steering wheel brushes, then I could pull out the instrument cluster. It unplugs readily, just beware of flashing the clock power lead against ground! (I do it nearly every time and usually blow the fuse. I did it this time too, but the fuse somehow survived.) With the instrument cluster out I grabbed the wiper and wiggled it, I could see that the intermediate pivot point between the motor and the arms was coming loose from the car body. A missing bolt? Not sure, and I was out of time to continue. I suspect that this wiper problem could be dealt with without removing the dash, but there are other problems under there too. I plan to continue with dash removal. But another day, now it's time for breakfast... -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Also, until this week the weather has been cold and wet and generally lousy, almost no top-down weather, especially for the less-than-hardy like my wife, My feeling is that if you have a convertible and you live in the Pacific Northwest you are obligated to put the top down whenever it's not raining, no matter how cold it is. That's what scarves and tweed driving caps are for. ;) M-B has the right idea by providing neck warmers in the seats in their newest convertibles. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
My feeling is that if you have a convertible and you live in the Pacific Northwest you are obligated to put the top down whenever it's not raining, no matter how cold it is. That's what scarves and tweed driving caps are for. ;) The Inland Empire (one of many, it appears) isn't really what one would consider the Pacific Northwet, no matter what it says on the map on USA Today. The East side of the Cascade mountains is a desert. The far east strips of WA/OR start to wet up a bit again. This year, and last, have been abby-normal climate-wise. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560 SL. Sigh, it never ends...
560 SL - year and mileage? Color scheme? '86, 100-and-change-kmi. White/Blue. More than you want to know: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSL2.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
