Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
They all melted in place due to global warming. --R On 7/23/14 10:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vchqcx4i0iss33f/TdP7088.jpg --R On 7/23/14 11:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Mention of glacial activity reminds me of an area in the hills near Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, where the rounded, granite top of a hill was polished to a mirror finish by the glacier now visible about 10 miles away. I enjoyed driving my truck up onto it and watching my many visitors, including a couple of USAF generals, other military and civilian officials from headquarters and Danish, Canadian and Swedish government officials ponder the awesomeness of the time and power of boulders, smaller rocks, sand and fine, powder-like sand combined with ice under tremendous pressure and its imperceptible movements to perform such a task. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Yep, that's what they do - just melt in place (during a warming period, anyway) and drop debris (moraine) wherever it happens to be, not move backward, unless there's a quake to cause what was high on the slope under the glacier before the quake to be low after the quake. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller They all melted in place due to global warming. --R On 7/23/14 10:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: They all melted in place due to global warming. You forgot to say man made. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
That would be redundant --R On 7/24/14 10:14 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: They all melted in place due to global warming. You forgot to say man made. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
On 23/07/2014 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. Even if they had made lines on a slow retreat as they melted, would they not have been in the same direction as their advance? I shouldn't think they would have started off in another direction to either side. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Melt in place. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller On 23/07/2014 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. Even if they had made lines on a slow retreat as they melted, would they not have been in the same direction as their advance? I shouldn't think they would have started off in another direction to either side. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:17 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Melt in place. ;) In fairness, if you're going to say they advance then it makes sense to say they retreat. ... Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
I'd like to introduce Tim. He's my new publicist. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:17 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Melt in place. ;) In fairness, if you're going to say they advance then it makes sense to say they retreat. ... Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
A couple weeks ago a guy on BW puts a 1993 400SEL up for sale. He wants $3500. Full records, second owner, 210k miles, southern car, etc. From the photos, and he posts a lot of them, the car looks really nice. Warts? It's got a CEL. He doesn't know what it is, but the car drives fine. He wants his asking price, but if he can't get it there are some people who want to trade him a Subaru, small truck, etc., etc. He isn't under pressure to sell but he needs the driveway space, blah, blah, blah. In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. A few days go by and no responses to his post. I ask him why he doesn't get the CEL checked out, as that could be a good reason why people are leery of the car. His response is that he doesn't want to pay a local indie an hour of labor to read the codes. I point out to him that he can read the codes himself (this car has the LED thingy in the engine compartment) and send him a link to a page that describes how to do it and what the codes mean. He comes back and says something about the EGR and holding the transmission in second. Both of these are minor issues in a W140. No biggie. A couple of other forum members jump in and suggest (nicely) that this is a $2000 car in their markets, which it is. Nice car, but the CEL and mileage are both things that would scare off the average buyer. I chime in and concur. He responds with more of the, You won't find cars like this in my area (Johnson City, TN) and, There are a bunch of people who want to trade me x for it but I really want the cash. Yeah, right. Next he posts something about the AC having stopped working (the car had an evaporator replaced a couple of years ago.) When he turns it on, the compressor chirps and that's it. Could be any number of issues. I come back and suggest he run the AC diagnostics and point him to a link with the process. He comes back the next day and says he couldn't understand the codes, blah, blah, blah. Lots of excuses, little substance. So at this point he retreats and stops responding to posts. It's obvious the people on BW aren't going to provide any sympathy So last week he posts the car in the For Sale forum (it had previously been in the W140 forum.). Same garbage about how great it is, all the trades he's been offered, etc. now he's asking $2800. Within a day the post drops off the front page. He posts a few more pictures to bump it. It falls off the page again and is out of sight for a day or two. Last night he bumps it, saying he's got to get it out of the driveway and he's accepting reasonable offers. I send him a PM and offer him $1800 with the offer good for 24 hours. After all, it's a $2000 car in my market No response. Something tells me I'm not going to get one. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Pull a Kaleb. If he makes contract regarding your $1800 offer, tell him your offer is now $1200 (or less). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 23, 2014 7:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A couple weeks ago a guy on BW puts a 1993 400SEL up for sale. He wants $3500. Full records, second owner, 210k miles, southern car, etc. From the photos, and he posts a lot of them, the car looks really nice. Warts? It's got a CEL. He doesn't know what it is, but the car drives fine. He wants his asking price, but if he can't get it there are some people who want to trade him a Subaru, small truck, etc., etc. He isn't under pressure to sell but he needs the driveway space, blah, blah, blah. In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. A few days go by and no responses to his post. I ask him why he doesn't get the CEL checked out, as that could be a good reason why people are leery of the car. His response is that he doesn't want to pay a local indie an hour of labor to read the codes. I point out to him that he can read the codes himself (this car has the LED thingy in the engine compartment) and send him a link to a page that describes how to do it and what the codes mean. He comes back and says something about the EGR and holding the transmission in second. Both of these are minor issues in a W140. No biggie. A couple of other forum members jump in and suggest (nicely) that this is a $2000 car in their markets, which it is. Nice car, but the CEL and mileage are both things that would scare off the average buyer. I chime in and concur. He responds with more of the, You won't find cars like this in my area (Johnson City, TN) and, There are a bunch of people who want to trade me x for it but I really want the cash. Yeah, right. Next he posts something about the AC having stopped working (the car had an evaporator replaced a couple of years ago.) When he turns it on, the compressor chirps and that's it. Could be any number of issues. I come back and suggest he run the AC diagnostics and point him to a link with the process. He comes back the next day and says he couldn't understand the codes, blah, blah, blah. Lots of excuses, little substance. So at this point he retreats and stops responding to posts. It's obvious the people on BW aren't going to provide any sympathy So last week he posts the car in the For Sale forum (it had previously been in the W140 forum.). Same garbage about how great it is, all the trades he's been offered, etc. now he's asking $2800. Within a day the post drops off the front page. He posts a few more pictures to bump it. It falls off the page again and is out of sight for a day or two. Last night he bumps it, saying he's got to get it out of the driveway and he's accepting reasonable offers. I send him a PM and offer him $1800 with the offer good for 24 hours. After all, it's a $2000 car in my market No response. Something tells me I'm not going to get one. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
No need to be a d*ck about it. I helped him out with trying to figure out what the issues were, and even gave some direction on better marketing approaches. If he has unrealistic expectations of what it's worth, he's not getting it out of the driveway for a while. I'll pull a Kleb if he ignores my original offer and then approaches me after the fact. That's why I ALWAYS put a time frame on my offers. If the recipient chooses to ignore it and then returns as a choice of last resort, they're going to be penalized for it. And I would make it $1500. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Pull a Kaleb. If he makes contract regarding your $1800 offer, tell him your offer is now $1200 (or less). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 23, 2014 7:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A couple weeks ago a guy on BW puts a 1993 400SEL up for sale. He wants $3500. Full records, second owner, 210k miles, southern car, etc. From the photos, and he posts a lot of them, the car looks really nice. Warts? It's got a CEL. He doesn't know what it is, but the car drives fine. He wants his asking price, but if he can't get it there are some people who want to trade him a Subaru, small truck, etc., etc. He isn't under pressure to sell but he needs the driveway space, blah, blah, blah. In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. A few days go by and no responses to his post. I ask him why he doesn't get the CEL checked out, as that could be a good reason why people are leery of the car. His response is that he doesn't want to pay a local indie an hour of labor to read the codes. I point out to him that he can read the codes himself (this car has the LED thingy in the engine compartment) and send him a link to a page that describes how to do it and what the codes mean. He comes back and says something about the EGR and holding the transmission in second. Both of these are minor issues in a W140. No biggie. A couple of other forum members jump in and suggest (nicely) that this is a $2000 car in their markets, which it is. Nice car, but the CEL and mileage are both things that would scare off the average buyer. I chime in and concur. He responds with more of the, You won't find cars like this in my area (Johnson City, TN) and, There are a bunch of people who want to trade me x for it but I really want the cash. Yeah, right. Next he posts something about the AC having stopped working (the car had an evaporator replaced a couple of years ago.) When he turns it on, the compressor chirps and that's it. Could be any number of issues. I come back and suggest he run the AC diagnostics and point him to a link with the process. He comes back the next day and says he couldn't understand the codes, blah, blah, blah. Lots of excuses, little substance. So at this point he retreats and stops responding to posts. It's obvious the people on BW aren't going to provide any sympathy So last week he posts the car in the For Sale forum (it had previously been in the W140 forum.). Same garbage about how great it is, all the trades he's been offered, etc. now he's asking $2800. Within a day the post drops off the front page. He posts a few more pictures to bump it. It falls off the page again and is out of sight for a day or two. Last night he bumps it, saying he's got to get it out of the driveway and he's accepting reasonable offers. I send him a PM and offer him $1800 with the offer good for 24 hours. After all, it's a $2000 car in my market No response. Something tells me I'm not going to get one. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. He needs the driveway space, so he's willing to trade it for a Subaru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. He needs the driveway space, so he's willing to trade it for a Subaru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... BW made me hesitate for a few seconds, before I realized it must be BenzWorld. CEL = Check Engine Light SES = Service Engine Soon light. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
There's no stupid question. If one doesn't know, how ya gonna find out 'fya don't ask. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. He needs the driveway space, so he's willing to trade it for a Subaru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Sorry. BW = BenzWorld, as in BenzWorld forums CEL = Check Engine Light Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There's no stupid question. If one doesn't know, how ya gonna find out 'fya don't ask. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. He needs the driveway space, so he's willing to trade it for a Subaru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. I can provide an example of a such a question I posed in my Glacial Geology class in grad school, if someone really wants to hear it. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry. BW = BenzWorld, as in BenzWorld forums CEL = Check Engine Light Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There's no stupid question. If one doesn't know, how ya gonna find out 'fya don't ask. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while trying to make everyone think it's worth more than it is. He needs the driveway space, so he's willing to trade it for a Subaru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
Mention of glacial activity reminds me of an area in the hills near Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, where the rounded, granite top of a hill was polished to a mirror finish by the glacier now visible about 10 miles away. I enjoyed driving my truck up onto it and watching my many visitors, including a couple of USAF generals, other military and civilian officials from headquarters and Danish, Canadian and Swedish government officials ponder the awesomeness of the time and power of boulders, smaller rocks, sand and fine, powder-like sand combined with ice under tremendous pressure and its imperceptible movements to perform such a task. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
