Re: [MBZ] Colors - was: green R107 goofiness

2014-02-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yes and that is why emergency exit signs are green, guess if I want to 
be seen I need a green sports car.


Hendrik
who had a thistle green 123 which was not that noticeable

On 20/02/14 14:33, Fmiser wrote:

Randy wrote:

Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red
firetrucks anymore.
Many are a yellowy green color.

That yellow-green is the color the human eye is most sensitive to.
Also the color it can resolve the highest resolution.  It does
stand out - doesn't it?

--  Philip




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Re: [MBZ] Colors - was: R107 goofiness

2014-02-19 Thread Fmiser
 Randy wrote:
 
 Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red
 firetrucks anymore.
 Many are a yellowy green color.

That yellow-green is the color the human eye is most sensitive to.
Also the color it can resolve the highest resolution.  It does
stand out - doesn't it?

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Colors - was: R107 goofiness

2014-02-19 Thread G Mann
It stands out because no living person who is not barking mad would own a
car that color.. hahaha...

Different... isn't always pretty.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Randy wrote:
 
  Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red
  firetrucks anymore.
  Many are a yellowy green color.

 That yellow-green is the color the human eye is most sensitive to.
 Also the color it can resolve the highest resolution.  It does
 stand out - doesn't it?

 --  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
My smart French neighbor picked up one of these at an estate auction in VA
for the same price, only it was US and LHD.  One owner car, no rust, clean
unmoleted interior, dealer serviced, etc.  It was perfect enough to make a
grown man cry...

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 What I find fascinating is that in the heyday of the classic108,109, and
 111
 Mercedes glory the most popular color for US exports was BROWN.


 The first mbz to really catch my attention was a '70 or '71 280SL
 California that my employer at the time had for sale. I don't know the
 official name of the color, but it was a medium brown.

 this color, but it was a LHD coupe with US headlamps, so I know it wasn't
 this car:
 http://bringatrailer.com/2010/**11/11/brit-spec-bankruptcy-**
 find-1968-mercedes-benz-280sl/http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/11/brit-spec-bankruptcy-find-1968-mercedes-benz-280sl/



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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Do the dealers still order 50% of their stock in black?
 Or am I wrong and it's MBUSA that did that and the dealers didn't have a 
 choice?..
 
Wrong on all counts. Drive by any dealer's new car lot and see.

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley

relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Do the dealers still order 50% of their stock in black?
Or am I wrong and it's MBUSA that did that and the dealers didn't have a 
choice?..



Wrong on all counts. Drive by any dealer's new car lot and see.


I was talking past tense, and asking what the present situation was.

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread WILTON

Probably lotsa white and silver for the last few years.

Wilton

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...Do the dealers still order 50% of their stock in black?
Or am I wrong and it's MBUSA that did that and the dealers didn't have a
choice?..


Wrong on all counts. Drive by any dealer's new car lot and see.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

Probably lotsa white and silver for the last few years.


I was thinking W140/W210 era. Way too many black examples of both of those, at 
least in my region.
I don't know if I've ever seen a black W115 or W123 in person, and the number of 
black W108/W116 isn't excessive.
Oh, yes, I don't see very many 126 coupes, but those I do see for sale around 
here are much too black, worse than ten year old white F250 diesels.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:22 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 I don't know if I've ever seen a black W115 or W123 in person, and the
 number of black W108/W116 isn't excessive.

There is a black W123 that I see from time to time locally.  It's a pure
gloss black, no metallic to it at all.  And it's not really all that
glossy at this point either.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
What I find fascinating is that in the heyday of the classic108,109, and 111
Mercedes glory the most popular color for US exports was BROWN.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:22 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

  I don't know if I've ever seen a black W115 or W123 in person, and the
  number of black W108/W116 isn't excessive.

 There is a black W123 that I see from time to time locally.  It's a pure
 gloss black, no metallic to it at all.  And it's not really all that
 glossy at this point either.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

What I find fascinating is that in the heyday of the classic108,109, and 111
Mercedes glory the most popular color for US exports was BROWN.


The first mbz to really catch my attention was a '70 or '71 280SL California 
that my employer at the time had for sale. I don't know the official name of the 
color, but it was a medium brown.


this color, but it was a LHD coupe with US headlamps, so I know it wasn't this 
car:
http://bringatrailer.com/2010/11/11/brit-spec-bankruptcy-find-1968-mercedes-benz-280sl/



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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Wilton posteth: Probably lotsa white and silver for the last few 
 years...
 
Closer to it. The predominant color for all models is silver of which there 
are several variations. Maybe 15% black and a few white. New cars for stock 
are ordered by the new car sales manager who doesn't have much imagination. 
The previous manager told me about four years ago that if he ordered a 
color meaning red/blue/green it would likely be hard to sell. BTW, black 
inside is almost universal and the cars that have Tex as standard will have it.

So, when an impulse buyer wants a new car this week, he is going to have to 
take something that's been sitting out back for a while. And it's the black 
Tex cars that the magazine road testers complain about as cheap looking, 
which they are. Depressing, even. My dealer has a LOT of 2011 W204s on the lot 
and with the facelifted 2012s now appearing, there are going to be a lot of 
big discounts plus some going to the auction.

I'm not going to drive something for six or seven years that's going to 
bring on buyer's remorse the week after delivery.

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread Fmiser
 Mitch Haley wrote:

 WILTON wrote:
  Probably lotsa white and silver for the last few years.
 
 I was thinking W140/W210 era. Way too many black examples of
 both of those, at least in my region.
 I don't know if I've ever seen a black W115 or W123 in person,
 and the number of black W108/W116 isn't excessive.

I have a black W123.  I'm _not_ Dan Penoff!  I don't really care
if my car is spotless - so long as it runs right.  And from my
experience, the dark interior is more of a heat problem than a
black exterior.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] colors

2011-07-18 Thread WILTON

I absolutely don't want a black interior.

Wilton

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Mitch Haley wrote:



WILTON wrote:
 Probably lotsa white and silver for the last few years.

I was thinking W140/W210 era. Way too many black examples of
both of those, at least in my region.
I don't know if I've ever seen a black W115 or W123 in person,
and the number of black W108/W116 isn't excessive.


I have a black W123.  I'm _not_ Dan Penoff!  I don't really care
if my car is spotless - so long as it runs right.  And from my
experience, the dark interior is more of a heat problem than a
black exterior.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] COLORS

2009-07-03 Thread RELNGSON
 ...WILTON wrote:
  BTW, I grew up during a time when silver and grey cars faded very fast,
  so, call it a bias or whatever, I just don't like silver on a car, but 
 car
  mfgrs seem to have gone crazy as Hell over 'em.
 
 I have been sensitive to that overwhelming number of color on cars
 also - and, I don't like it in the least.  Why do they do this?..
 
New car sales managers don't like to order a color for stock because they 
are afraid they will get stuck with it. That's why so many silvers are 
sold. If somebody wants one today, likely it's going to be silver, white or 
black. All very ordinary and boring. Same reason so many cars have black Tex 
interiors.

And yet when I stop by my dealer (weekly for a cuppa) I see a sea of, guess 
what, silver, white and black cars that have been on hand for months in 
some cases.

Of the hundreds of Hondas one sees daily, how many are NOT silver?

That's why I waited months for my car because I wanted it the way I wanted 
it, and not what was out back.

BTW, the Germany's racing color is not silver.

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Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-26 Thread Potter, Tom E
I remember that in the '50s you could easily order special packages from
the dealer. It would take a couple of months to get your car, but I knew
several guys that ordered special paint/interior/engine combinations. I
think the dealers just don't want to make the effort now. They just want
to sell what is on their lot at the moment.

Tom Potter



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 When I ordered my '01, the MB Taste Police would not allow a
 tannish (now called Java) interior with any of the colors I wanted.
 Metallic red, for example.

Let me get this straight. You ordered the car, built to your needs and
desires. You wanted an interior that was available for that model,
combined with an exterior that was available for that model, and the
computer wouldn't allow the dealer to process the order that way?
If I were the would-be customer, that would be a NO SALE until the
dealer got on the phone with HQ and found a way to place the order the
way I wanted it.  

I remember a story from the early 1990's. The police chief from a small
place in California (La Jolla, perhaps?) went into a Saturn dealer (no
police package on the order form there) and wanted a couple of black 
cars with white doors, hoods, and trunk lids. Salesman said let me
check on it, we've never done that before. The order was submitted that
same day, and the chief had his economy cop cars a month or two
later. Saturn used it as an example of why they were a different sort
of car company, but why can't it be that way at every car maker? 
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Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread RELNGSON
 Now, when my wife or I are looking for a car, we always look for silver 
 or
 white -- or some similar color.   Not only are any body dings less 
 noticeable
 but they stay looking clean even when they're filthy.
 
Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is 
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.

Boooring!

I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a 
sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.

I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.

RLE






Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread Sunil Hari
Smoke silver still looks classy, though.  Hides dirt well, and just looks
regal.

I still really want a 123 or 115 in a vibrant orange, yellow or green.

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  Now, when my wife or I are looking for a car, we always look for
 silver
  or
  white -- or some similar color. Not only are any body dings less
  noticeable
  but they stay looking clean even when they're filthy.
 
 Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is
 full of silver, gray and the occasional black.

 Boooring!

 I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a
 sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.

 I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.

 RLE




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Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread Loren Faeth



A few years ago at the factory, we saw an E wagon with a  blue-green it was 
a nice color and very unusual.  Almost all the cars on the assembly were 
silver, more like Astral and black.  Yuk, black cars are high maintenance, 
and come with uppity, see me owners.  Of course there were a few with the 
german taxi color too!


I really like my smoke silver SDL though.  That is my preference for a 126, 
although burgundy is nice.  My favorite for 123 and 107 is Midnight blue, 
also with Burgundy for a second.  For a few months I had matching burgundy 
123 107 and 126.  Now the 123 is gone.


At 10:15 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

 Now, when my wife or I are looking for a car, we always look for silver
 or
 white -- or some similar color.   Not only are any body dings less
 noticeable
 but they stay looking clean even when they're filthy.

Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.

Boooring!

I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a
sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.

I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread tom savage

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is 
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.


Boooring!


Indeed.  The w123 was available in 62 colors over its production run. 
The w203 is available in nine - white, two blacks, three grays, two dark 
reds, and blue.  Ugh.


I'm sure the C350 six-speed is a real treat to drive, but only if I can 
get it in Colorado Beige or Nickel Grun.


Tom



Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread RELNGSON
Yuk, black cars are high maintenance, and come with uppity, see me owners.


Faeth cuts me to the quick.

When I ordered my '01, the MB Taste Police would not allow a tannish (now 
called Java) interior with any of the colors I wanted. Metallic red, for 
example.

So my least worst choice was Obsidian Black metallic. I've lived with it for 
five years and won't be choosing it again. It's been polished (to remove the 
swirls) about twenty times and I now have it down to a few hours but 
still

And the W204 articles in the German mags show a beige interior with metallic 
red so for once they have been listening to their customers.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley

 When I ordered my '01, the MB Taste Police would not allow a
 tannish (now called Java) interior with any of the colors I wanted.
 Metallic red, for example.

Let me get this straight. You ordered the car, built to your needs and desires. 
You wanted an interior that was available for that model, combined with an 
exterior that was available for that model, and the computer wouldn't allow the 
dealer to process the order that way?
If I were the would-be customer, that would be a NO SALE until the
dealer got on the phone with HQ and found a way to place the order the
way I wanted it.  

I remember a story from the early 1990's. The police chief from a small place 
in California (La Jolla, perhaps?) went into a Saturn dealer (no
police package on the order form there) and wanted a couple of black 
cars with white doors, hoods, and trunk lids. Salesman said let me
check on it, we've never done that before. The order was submitted that same 
day, and the chief had his economy cop cars a month or two
later. Saturn used it as an example of why they were a different sort
of car company, but why can't it be that way at every car maker?