Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:32 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. I like the idea of a convertible, but in practice they are noisy, have poor visibility when the top is up, and are hard to take care of (since the top requires special care when washing, among other things). A sunroof is the perfect compromise. I agree that the M-B mechanism is too complicated and failure-prone, though. Like Mitch, I miss the manual sliding (non-tilting) sunroof on the late '70s Saabs, which never broke and could be opened and closed with one hand faster than any electric equivalent. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
No, no, no. You're trying to get one vehicle to be too many different things. The convertable is for nice sunny days with the top down. The top is only for use when/if you get caught with sudden rain. Otherwise, it sits in the garage while you drive the car with the solid steel roof. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I like the idea of a convertible, but in practice they are noisy, have poor visibility when the top is up, and are hard to take care of (since the top requires special care when washing, among other things). A sunroof is the perfect compromise. I agree that the M-B mechanism is too complicated and failure-prone, though. Like Mitch, I miss the manual sliding (non-tilting) sunroof on the late '70s Saabs, which never broke and could be opened and closed with one hand faster than any electric equivalent. Alex -- OK Don Previous - '58 Chevy Impala convertable for 3 years, '61 MGA roadster for 10 years 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Sunroofs are one of things that are like wow when you first have them but then the novelty wears off, although we use the tilt feature on ours a lot, which helps let the heat out. Hendrik who is so so about sunroofs On 29/07/13 04:06, OK Don wrote: I think that the person who hoisted sunroofs off on all US destined cars is evil. The best answer I've come up with so far is to TIG the things closed and sealed. If I were to be preparing to repaint a car, that's what I'd do. On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Sounds good to me. I could use a vacation. The door seals are easy but I don't know if even the offer of a vacation is enough to get me to do another roof seal. I'm still thinking of doing them on the sedan and I'm putting it off at least till winter so I don't melt down here. Which reminds me. After I got through with the front seal I decided that the rear sunroof seal didn't need to be done after all. Wonder what caused that? ;-) Frankly I think as long as there isn't any wind noise then they really don't need doing anyway. I will definitely do the little side brush things. They are easy and quick and when the do start coming apart the pieces tend to clog up the drains. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Some of the best times I've had in MBs have been with the sunroof open. I can remember many an evening riding home from the airport, sunroof open, radio on... -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:32:34 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again Message-ID: CALk3cy6vt6D5KF=icng00dkhqq+z40uf717fvsvj1dnmz5u...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dan wrote: The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Yep. My '84 240D has that, but I never open the roof - shy would I want that? Sun gets in my eyes too often. It serves no real purpose. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Yes, they are worth their weight in gold when used to ventilate a closed car that has been sitting in the hot sun. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Some of the best times I've had in MBs have been with the sunroof open. I can remember many an evening riding home from the airport, sunroof open, radio on... -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:32:34 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again Message-ID: CALk3cy6vt6D5KF=icng00dkhqq+z40uf717fvsvj1dnmz5u...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dan wrote: The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Yep. My '84 240D has that, but I never open the roof - shy would I want that? Sun gets in my eyes too often. It serves no real purpose. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Actually, everywhere I've lived, the sun beating down through an open sun roof just made it hotter. Open side windows seemed to always work better for cooling. But then, SWMBO insisted on leather seats in the Outback and the only trim line with leather that year had a hole in the roof too (which has never been opened after the initial ops check). I have short legs but I'm tall from the butt to the head so the lost headroom is no bargain either. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:37 PM To: WILTON; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again I like the sunroof, actually. Makes the non-functioning AC more tolerable. WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Y'all've heard me say for years, but I'll say it again, I think it is stupid to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top. We've (Americans), though, have evidently been gullible enough for 30 or more years to pay big money for 'em. I sure as Hell wouldn't have a car with a hole in the roof, if they'd make one without it. Wilton -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, everywhere I've lived, the sun beating down through an open sun roof just made it hotter. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
'Never shoulda been cut into the perfectly good steel top. 'Good way to ruin a good steel top and get gullible 'Merikaners to pay ridiculous money for a steel top with a big hole in it. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, everywhere I've lived, the sun beating down through an open sun roof just made it hotter. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
I have two 'spensive big holes in steel tops - also, never used. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
W220 has the glass roof and the moonroof cover with louvers. Pop the top and let it sit out in the sun when parked. Heat and air does escape enough that you do not pass out getting into the car. Blows ICE COLD once running. Also good for night driving when ambient temp is close to ACC setting to increase MPG clay On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
And the gl, it has 2 sunroofs Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:57 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: W220 has the glass roof and the moonroof cover with louvers. Pop the top and let it sit out in the sun when parked. Heat and air does escape enough that you do not pass out getting into the car. Blows ICE COLD once running. Also good for night driving when ambient temp is close to ACC setting to increase MPG clay On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
All my 210s and 140s have that as well Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:57 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: W220 has the glass roof and the moonroof cover with louvers. Pop the top and let it sit out in the sun when parked. Heat and air does escape enough that you do not pass out getting into the car. Blows ICE COLD once running. Also good for night driving when ambient temp is close to ACC setting to increase MPG clay On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Your ML has it also -- I could not measure a significant difference in temp with the tilted up sunroof and partially opened sliding cover open or closed in 100F+ temps. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: And the gl, it has 2 sunroofs Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:57 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: W220 has the glass roof and the moonroof cover with louvers. Pop the top and let it sit out in the sun when parked. Heat and air does escape enough that you do not pass out getting into the car. Blows ICE COLD once running. Also good for night driving when ambient temp is close to ACC setting to increase MPG clay On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:32:04 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed - I've never found them to be helpful in the heat either. If you like to drive with it open, you should be in a convertable with the top down. Otherwise, they need to be welded closed. We have a sunroof on our '95 E320, but we do not use it Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
I think that the person who hoisted sunroofs off on all US destined cars is evil. The best answer I've come up with so far is to TIG the things closed and sealed. If I were to be preparing to repaint a car, that's what I'd do. On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Sounds good to me. I could use a vacation. The door seals are easy but I don't know if even the offer of a vacation is enough to get me to do another roof seal. I'm still thinking of doing them on the sedan and I'm putting it off at least till winter so I don't melt down here. Which reminds me. After I got through with the front seal I decided that the rear sunroof seal didn't need to be done after all. Wonder what caused that? ;-) Frankly I think as long as there isn't any wind noise then they really don't need doing anyway. I will definitely do the little side brush things. They are easy and quick and when the do start coming apart the pieces tend to clog up the drains. Manfred -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Y'all've heard me say for years, but I'll say it again, I think it is stupid to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top. We've (Americans), though, have evidently been gullible enough for 30 or more years to pay big money for 'em. I sure as Hell wouldn't have a car with a hole in the roof, if they'd make one without it. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again I think that the person who hoisted sunroofs off on all US destined cars is evil. The best answer I've come up with so far is to TIG the things closed and sealed. If I were to be preparing to repaint a car, that's what I'd do. On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Sounds good to me. I could use a vacation. The door seals are easy but I don't know if even the offer of a vacation is enough to get me to do another roof seal. I'm still thinking of doing them on the sedan and I'm putting it off at least till winter so I don't melt down here. Which reminds me. After I got through with the front seal I decided that the rear sunroof seal didn't need to be done after all. Wonder what caused that? ;-) Frankly I think as long as there isn't any wind noise then they really don't need doing anyway. I will definitely do the little side brush things. They are easy and quick and when the do start coming apart the pieces tend to clog up the drains. Manfred -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Dan On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:00 PM, WILTON wrote: Y'all've heard me say for years, but I'll say it again, I think it is stupid to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top. We've (Americans), though, have evidently been gullible enough for 30 or more years to pay big money for 'em. I sure as Hell wouldn't have a car with a hole in the roof, if they'd make one without it. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Dan Penoff wrote: The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. I'd like to know who made them for Saab 99 series. You pushed forward or pulled back on a recessed handle and the roof unlatched and slid in the desired direction. You let go and it locked in place. No cranks, motors, or any of that stuff. There was even a nice automatic pop up wind deflector at the front, just like a MBZ. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
I like the sunroof, actually. Makes the non-functioning AC more tolerable. WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Y'all've heard me say for years, but I'll say it again, I think it is stupid to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top. We've (Americans), though, have evidently been gullible enough for 30 or more years to pay big money for 'em. I sure as Hell wouldn't have a car with a hole in the roof, if they'd make one without it. Wilton -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The absolute BEST MB roof I've had was my '80 240D - good solid steel; no hole in it. What a car roof oughtta be. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Dan On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:00 PM, WILTON wrote: Y'all've heard me say for years, but I'll say it again, I think it is stupid to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top. We've (Americans), though, have evidently been gullible enough for 30 or more years to pay big money for 'em. I sure as Hell wouldn't have a car with a hole in the roof, if they'd make one without it. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I kind of like the sun roof on mine. Then again I bought a car that didn't have the sun roof hoisted off of it before I bought it. Don't know why anyone would buy a car without the sun roof but I would also weld something up there What? Oh! Foisted. Never mind. :-) Manfred OK Don wrote: I think that the person who hoisted sunroofs off on all US destined cars is evil. The best answer I've come up with so far is to TIG the things closed and sealed. If I were to be preparing to repaint a car, that's what I'd do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hole in the roof, was: parts sources, again
Dan wrote: The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Yep. My '84 240D has that, but I never open the roof - shy would I want that? Sun gets in my eyes too often. It serves no real purpose. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lets the heat out faster after my black 300d with dark tint sits in the sun. Mike On Jul 28, 2013 8:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: The best sunroof MB ever had, IMHO, was in the W123 chassis where they had the manual sunroof with the T handle. Yep. My '84 240D has that, but I never open the roof - shy would I want that? Sun gets in my eyes too often. It serves no real purpose. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
