Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-22 Thread Hans Neureiter

I agree with you.

On 10/21/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hans Neureiter wrote:
 I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $
50
 pad + shipping + glue.
 What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
 door) do?


Maybe catch fire?  I remember for a while some building codes wouldn't
allow that stuff in living areas, because when it got hot it released
toxic fumes.

You don't really *need* the hood pad, IMHO.  The car will be a little
noisier, but not objectionably so.  Also, when it's drizzling outside
and you're stopped in traffic, water will steam off the hood in a
fascinating way. ;)


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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I buy this stuff in a roll from a place that specialises in insulation (for 
the music industry and such), it has it's own self adhesive backing but it 
is not that good so I spray some glue on the hood and cut the insulation to 
suit.

Here is a picture of someone fitting it:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2085/article.html
Here is a link to a place you should try and find the American equivalant 
of:

http://www.soundguard.com.au/index.htm

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)



Hendrik typed:

I use a aftermarket product specifically
designed for the job, which is about 1/2 thick.

What is it exactly? Where can a dude with a crumbly hood pad see what you
used?
I replaced the one on the previous 300D I had and I seem to remember it 
was

going south after about 3 years.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 161K
'87 Acura Legend  178K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-21 Thread David Brodbeck
Hans Neureiter wrote:
 I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $ 50
 pad + shipping + glue.
 What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
 door) do?
   

Maybe catch fire?  I remember for a while some building codes wouldn't
allow that stuff in living areas, because when it got hot it released
toxic fumes.

You don't really *need* the hood pad, IMHO.  The car will be a little
noisier, but not objectionably so.  Also, when it's drizzling outside
and you're stopped in traffic, water will steam off the hood in a
fascinating way. ;)




Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Probably rub on engine components. I use a aftermarket product specifically 
designed for the job, which is about 1/2 thick. Have had it on my 230E for 
well over two years and still looks like new. I have heard people say that 
the pad they bought from dealers is rubbish and not lasting. This is strange 
because the lifespan of original factory pads is round about 15 to 20 years. 
I just recently pulled the original one out of my Mum's 86 190E because it 
was starting to crumble.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)



I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $ 50
pad + shipping + glue.
What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
door) do?

On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
exposed to?

I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300





Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I think you may try that first and let us know how Grandma's old rug does 
under the bonnet.


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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)



Why not just get a rattle can of foaming insulation and spray that on?
Would result in the same effect for noise and heat reduction with no
decrease in flammability. You might try some carpet pad and tinfoil
to fake up a workable hoodpad.   Might actually be as good as the
factory item


On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:


I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the
$ 50
pad + shipping + glue.
What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
door) do?

On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
exposed to?

I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the
pad
seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hans,

Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it

away  to

make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
lasted  more than
10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
the  same.  Oil
fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen



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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hans Neureiter

Comes to mind that the life of rubber parts does not start when put into
service, but rather when produced.
These hoodpads may been on the shelve for 15 to 20 yeras.
I bought brand new fork spring gaiters for my '72 T100 Daytona and they
lasted one year.
I like That sounds like a Tank to be appropriate for my MB.

On 10/19/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


...I have heard people say that
the pad they bought from dealers is rubbish and not lasting. This is
strange
because the lifespan of original factory pads is round about 15 to 20
years



Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan


Must be so  .  I got mine off the shelf  but seemed a little crumbly as if 
it had aged .

mak

Comes to mind that the life of rubber parts does not start when put into
service, but rather when produced.
These hoodpads may been on the shelve for 15 to 20 yeras.
I bought brand new fork spring gaiters for my '72 T100 Daytona and they
lasted one year.
I like That sounds like a Tank to be appropriate for my MB.

On 10/19/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


...I have heard people say that
the pad they bought from dealers is rubbish and not lasting. This is
strange
because the lifespan of original factory pads is round about 15 to 20
years


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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Bob Rentfro

Hendrik typed:

I use a aftermarket product specifically
designed for the job, which is about 1/2 thick.

What is it exactly? Where can a dude with a crumbly hood pad see what you 
used?
I replaced the one on the previous 300D I had and I seem to remember it was 
going south after about 3 years.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 161K
'87 Acura Legend  178K
Litchfield Park, AZ 





Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-19 Thread Hans Neureiter

I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $ 50
pad + shipping + glue.
What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
door) do?

On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
exposed to?

I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
 I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
 My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the pad
 seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


 On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hans,
 
  Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it
away  to
  make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
  lasted  more than
  10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
  the  same.  Oil
  fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jim  Friesen
  Phoenix AZ
  79 300SD, 263 K miles
  98 ML 320, 146 K  miles
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-19 Thread Redghost
Why not just get a rattle can of foaming insulation and spray that on?  
Would result in the same effect for noise and heat reduction with no 
decrease in flammability. You might try some carpet pad and tinfoil 
to fake up a workable hoodpad.   Might actually be as good as the 
factory item



On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the 
$ 50

pad + shipping + glue.
What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
door) do?

On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
exposed to?

I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the 
pad

seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hans,

Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it

away  to

make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
lasted  more than
10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
the  same.  Oil
fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen



--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-19 Thread andrew strasfogel

[cringe]

On 10/19/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why not just get a rattle can of foaming insulation and spray that on?
Would result in the same effect for noise and heat reduction with no
decrease in flammability. You might try some carpet pad and tinfoil
to fake up a workable hoodpad.   Might actually be as good as the
factory item


On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

 I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the
 $ 50
 pad + shipping + glue.
 What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
 door) do?

 On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
 heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
 exposed to?

 I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

 -Dave Walton
 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

 On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
 I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
 My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the
 pad
 seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


 On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hans,

 Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it
 away  to
 make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
 lasted  more than
 10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
 the  same.  Oil
 fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

 Regards,

 Jim  Friesen


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-19 Thread Loren Faeth
Up until the 300D, no MB diesels had hood pads.  The inexpensive 
alternative is to let it crumble and drive on.  I know, this is offensive 
to purists but so is carpet pad and tinfoil.  My preference is to glue 
on a new pad, but doing nothing may be better than spray on foam or carpet 
pad and tinfoil.


Besides it is kind of entertaining to hear the clatter and have people tell 
you your engine is about to come apart.



At 10:07 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:

I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $ 50
pad + shipping + glue.
What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage
door) do?

On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
 heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
 exposed to?

 I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

 -Dave Walton
 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

 On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
  I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
  My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the pad
  seemed dry. I just crumbled up.
 
 
  On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hans,
  
   Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it
 away  to
   make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
   lasted  more than
   10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
   the  same.  Oil
   fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.
  
   Regards,
  
   Jim  Friesen
   Phoenix AZ
   79 300SD, 263 K miles
   98 ML 320, 146 K  miles
  
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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-19 Thread andrew strasfogel

A hood pad was OEM on my 1970 280SE 3.5 W111 coupe.  I know this for a fact
because I purchased one from the dealer that fits perfectly.

On 10/19/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was being facetious about the spray on.  I got Gump a nice w123  pad
and installed that a few years ago.  so far it is doing just fine.
There was some damage from excess B100 leaking from a return hose and a
bolt out of place, but other than that,  I expect another 7 years on
the pad.

On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

 Up until the 300D, no MB diesels had hood pads.  The inexpensive
 alternative is to let it crumble and drive on.  I know, this is
 offensive
 to purists but so is carpet pad and tinfoil.  My preference is to
 glue
 on a new pad, but doing nothing may be better than spray on foam or
 carpet
 pad and tinfoil.

 Besides it is kind of entertaining to hear the clatter and have people
 tell
 you your engine is about to come apart.


 At 10:07 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
 I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to
 the $ 50
 pad + shipping + glue.
 What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my
 garage
 door) do?

 On 10/13/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
 heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
 exposed to?

 I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

 -Dave Walton
 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

 On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
 I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
 My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even
 the pad
 seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


 On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hans,

 Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it
 away  to
 make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
 lasted  more than
 10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
 the  same.  Oil
 fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

 Regards,

 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 263 K miles
 98 ML 320, 146 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-13 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 10/12/2006 8:42:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  installed a new hood pad on my 126 about 3 years ago. It  totally
desintergrated. I think this is abnormal but can't figure out  why.


Hans,
 
Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it away  to 
make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad lasted  more 
than 
10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least the  same.  Oil 
fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 263 K miles 
98 ML 320, 146 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-13 Thread archer
Where did you buy the pad?  I bought one and put it in the hot attic.  Got 
it out to install in car three years later and it had completely 
disintegrated.

Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D
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In a message dated 10/12/2006 8:42:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I  installed a new hood pad on my 126 about 3 years ago. It  totally
desintergrated. I think this is abnormal but can't figure out  why.


Hans,
Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it away  to
make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad lasted 
more than
10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least the  same. 
Oil

fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.
Jim  Friesen





Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-13 Thread Hans Neureiter

Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the pad
seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hans,

Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it away  to
make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
lasted  more than
10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
the  same.  Oil
fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 263 K miles
98 ML 320, 146 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-13 Thread dave walton

Are people saying that a hood pad can not withstand oil fumes and
heat? Aren't those about the only two thing you can COUNT ON it being
exposed to?

I'd be really interested who you bought it from and/or who made it.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 10/13/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Don't remember for sure where I got it. Prolly The Benzbin.
I am the only pack rat around here, and I didn't do it.
My oil filler plug leaked a lot, so there were plenty fumes even the pad
seemed dry. I just crumbled up.


On 10/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hans,

 Do you have pack rats?  they will chew the thing up and carry it away  to
 make a nest, often in the engine compartment.  My original pad
 lasted  more than
 10 years, and it's replacement appears to be good for at least
 the  same.  Oil
 fumes will kill the pad so make sure your blowby is  controlled.

 Regards,

 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 263 K miles
 98 ML 320, 146 K  miles

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[MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-12 Thread Hans Neureiter

I installed a new hood pad on my 126 about 3 years ago. It totally
desintergrated. I think this is abnormal but can't figure out why.

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Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D


Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-12 Thread V Layton




I installed a new hood pad on my 126 about 3 years ago. It totally
desintergrated. I think this is abnormal but can't figure out why.

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OEM or aftermarket?

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