Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
A nice older southern ML500, money left over to put towards maintenance and repairs 2006 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D $4,500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/201964496160165 On 6/27/23 1:09 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in Michigan. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
We are splitting it 50/50. This arrangement has worked well for in the past. Definitely gets their attention. Michael E. Esh > On Jun 27, 2023, at 8:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > The question is, whose money is being spent? If it's his, give him advice > but let him make his own choice. If it's yours, unless you feel like making > it a pure gift, you should have some say. > > >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 19:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Agreed. The WRX is pure street racer material and unless extremely well >> cared for has probably been thrashed. >> >> -D >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of >>> them have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or >>> something similar. >>> >>> Michael E. Esh >>> >>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like Dwight has. Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: > > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop > that can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't > tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had > occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly > boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had > years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with > old "cheap" Mercedes... > > -Curt > >> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old > student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or > so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been > sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the > south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in > Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
The question is, whose money is being spent? If it's his, give him advice but let him make his own choice. If it's yours, unless you feel like making it a pure gift, you should have some say. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 19:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Agreed. The WRX is pure street racer material and unless extremely well > cared for has probably been thrashed. > > -D > >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of >> them have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or >> something similar. >> >> Michael E. Esh >> >> >>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like >>> Dwight has. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that can/will work on Mercedes. Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... -Curt > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in Michigan. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
I get low 20s in the 2004 E500. Of course the ML is heavier and less aerodynamic. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 19:42, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Figure 16 mpg average around town. With a tailwind and light foot you > can cross 20 mpg on the interstate. > > -D > > On Jun 27, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > > My email is being stupid right now but that ML500 I just posted seems > like a candidate, unless it swills too much fuel. > > AZBob > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows > > From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:46 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. > > I'm with Curt. > > I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in > Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here > along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in > mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the > head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific > engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged. > > -D > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan > Streib via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Allan Streib > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. > > Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. > > I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their > automatic transmissions. > > For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a >> lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good >> shop that can/will work on Mercedes. >> >> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you >> steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't >> tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had >> occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if >> slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that >> Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting >> involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... >> >> -Curt >> >> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year >> old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 >> months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but >> it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 >> for it! >> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am >> discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in >> the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the >> south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). >> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him >> using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. >> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or >> even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live >> in Michigan. >> Thanks in advance, >> Mike >> >> Michael E. Esh >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe o
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
Agreed. The WRX is pure street racer material and unless extremely well cared for has probably been thrashed. -D > On Jun 27, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of > them have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or > something similar. > > Michael E. Esh > > >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like >> Dwight has. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot >>> of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that >>> can/will work on Mercedes. >>> >>> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer >>> away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get >>> hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an >>> early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. >>> Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, >>> probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" >>> Mercedes... >>> >>> -Curt >>> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old >>> student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or >>> so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been >>> sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! >>> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging >>> this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 >>> range and would like to get something that is from the south that is >>> relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). >>> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him >>> using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. >>> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even >>> better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in >>> Michigan. >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Mike >>> >>> Michael E. Esh >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
Figure 16 mpg average around town. With a tailwind and light foot you can cross 20 mpg on the interstate. -D On Jun 27, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: My email is being stupid right now but that ML500 I just posted seems like a candidate, unless it swills too much fuel. AZBob Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. I'm with Curt. I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions. For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good > shop that can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't > tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had > occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if > slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that > Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting > involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year > old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 > months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but > it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 > for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the > south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live > in Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
Thanks Rick. We will do that. Michael E. Esh > On Jun 27, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Run the vin and make sure it's post timing gear issues. > > https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/ > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 27, 2023 3:38 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: michael...@mac.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. > > > Anything to worry about on this model? > <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> > Log into Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> > facebook.com<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> > [hLRJ1GG_y0J.ico]<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> > > Michael E. Esh > > > On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm with Curt. > > I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, > and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the > winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, > are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the > older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite > versatile as well as rugged. > > -D > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via > Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Allan Streib > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. > > Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. > > I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their > automatic transmissions. > > For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good > shop that can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't > tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had > occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if > slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that > Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting > involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year > old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 > months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but > it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 > for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the > south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live > in Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of them have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or something similar. Michael E. Esh > On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like > Dwight has. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot >> of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that >> can/will work on Mercedes. >> >> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer >> away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get >> hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an >> early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. >> Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, >> probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" >> Mercedes... >> >> -Curt >> >> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old >> student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or >> so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been >> sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! >> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging >> this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 >> range and would like to get something that is from the south that is >> relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). >> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using >> it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. >> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even >> better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in >> Michigan. >> Thanks in advance, >> Mike >> >> Michael E. Esh >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And they don’t rust. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > > yes esp with 4matic > >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 6:45 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like >> Dwight has. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot >> > of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that >> > can/will work on Mercedes. >> > >> > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer >> > away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to >> > get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to >> > drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. >> > Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, >> > probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" >> > Mercedes... >> > >> > -Curt >> > >> > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old >> > student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or >> > so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been >> > sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! >> > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am >> > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in >> > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south >> > that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). >> > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him >> > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. >> > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even >> > better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in >> > Michigan. >> > Thanks in advance, >> > Mike >> > >> > Michael E. Esh >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Run the vin and make sure it's post timing gear issues. https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/ Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 27, 2023 3:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: michael...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. Anything to worry about on this model? <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> Log into Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> facebook.com<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> [hLRJ1GG_y0J.ico]<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480> Michael E. Esh On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I'm with Curt. I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions. For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that can/will work on Mercedes. Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... -Curt On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in Michigan. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yes esp with 4matic On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 6:45 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like > Dwight has. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop > that can/will work on Mercedes. > > > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend > to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to > drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. > Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, > probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" > Mercedes... > > > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year > old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months > or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has > been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! > > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the > $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that > is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in > Michigan. > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike > > > > Michael E. Esh > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like Dwight has. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot of > shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that > can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer > away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get > hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an > early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. > Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, > probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" > Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old > student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. > He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold > due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging > this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 > range and would like to get something that is from the south that is > relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using > it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even > better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in > Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yes Subarus are a great choice. we have had 1970, 1971, 78 (first 4WD) 83. & the 2001 Forester which I bought new. only reason I sold Forester is my brother the car dealer gave me a 78 240D for Christmas present. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 1:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot > of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that > can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer > away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get > hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an > early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. > Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, > probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" > Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old > student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or > so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been > sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the > $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that > is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even > better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in > Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My email is being stupid right now but that ML500 I just posted seems like a candidate, unless it swills too much fuel. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:46 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. I'm with Curt. I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged. -DFrom: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions. For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a> lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good> shop that can/will work on Mercedes.> > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you> steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't> tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had> occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if> slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that> Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting> involved with old "cheap" Mercedes...> > -Curt> > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes> wrote:> > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year> old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6> months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but> it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000> for it!> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am> discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in> the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the> south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin).> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him> using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or> even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live> in Michigan.> Thanks in advance,> Mike> > Michael E. Esh> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anything to worry about on this model?Log into Facebookfacebook.comMichael E. EshOn Jun 27, 2023, at 2:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:I'm with Curt.I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged.-DFrom: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks.I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions.For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also.On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that alot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a goodshop that can/will work on Mercedes.Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as yousteer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don'ttend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I hadoccasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, ifslightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon thatDwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs gettinginvolved with old "cheap" Mercedes...-CurtOn Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 yearold student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years butit has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000for it!He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I amdiscouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive inthe $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from thesouth that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin).I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want himusing it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Oreven better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We livein Michigan.Thanks in advance,MikeMichael E. Esh___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm with Curt. I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy. Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions. For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good > shop that can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't > tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had > occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if > slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that > Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting > involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year > old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 > months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but > it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 > for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the > south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live > in Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks. I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions. For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a > lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good > shop that can/will work on Mercedes. > > Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you > steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't > tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had > occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if > slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that > Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting > involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year > old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 > months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but > it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 > for it! > He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am > discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in > the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the > south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). > I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him > using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. > Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or > even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live > in Michigan. > Thanks in advance, > Mike > > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that can/will work on Mercedes. Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" Mercedes... -Curt On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in Michigan. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle. He is a 25 year old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so. He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage. Actually got $2000 for it! He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar. I am discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust free. (My daughter lives in Austin). I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues. Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even better does anyone have anything we might interested in? We live in Michigan. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
