Re: [MBZ] Martha Musings

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Something else I wanted to include in this and forgot….

If you ever need to remove a Mercedes air bag from the steering wheel, there’s 
a great factory tool that makes it really easy:

126 589 00 10 00

It’s Torx T30 bit with a hex end that you can get a 1/4 drive socket/ratchet on.

If you’ve never removed an air bag, it’s a real PITA unless you have a short 
T30 Torx wrench, that is, one that can fit between the back of the steering 
wheel and the instrument panel. If the wrench is skinny, you’ll have a tough 
time getting it centered in the opening for the fastener and landed in the 
socket of the bolt.

This bit is under $10 from the dealer and fits all Mercedes air bag bolts, so 
it’s not a single model sort of tool. I finally broke down and bought one 
because I needed to remove the air bag on the ML550 to replace a button set for 
the telematics, and believe me, it made the job so easy and quick I kick myself 
for not getting one of these a long time ago.

-D/Martha

> On May 29, 2022, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Working on the 2008 ML550 today, I found something I really like in the way 
> of detailing products.
> 
> We’ve all dealt with black plastic or vinyl trim and how it ages and gets 
> chalky due to exposure to the elements and age. With cars in Florida this is 
> accelerated, as the sun can be pretty brutal here as can the temperatures. 
> I’ve tried all sorts of “back to black” and other such trim treatments, none 
> of which seemed to last long (or at all.)
> 
> On a recommendation from a detailing buddy I tried something from a company 
> called “GTECHNIQ” called “Permanent Trim Restorer C4”.
> 
> It’s not cheap, I think the little 15 ml bottle I got cost around $30, but 
> I'm pretty much willing to try almost anything once if I see some good 
> results others have experienced.
> 
> On the ML550 there is black plastic trim that runs along the rocker panel 
> area above the running boards (if you have them.) It’s a flat black textured 
> material like most black trim, and mine was pretty chalky. They give you some 
> applicators with the product, which is nice. They also recommend the use of 
> gloves, as it does have some nasty solvents in it from the looks of the 
> ingredients.
> 
> Application was simple, wipe on, let dry, wipe off any excess. The results 
> were instantly apparent, but I don’t put a lot of stock in that because most 
> of the trim restoration product I’ve tried look great when first applied.
> 
> I’ll watch this stuff carefully over the next few weeks and see how it shapes 
> up. My initial experience has been good.
> 
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[MBZ] Martha Musings

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Working on the 2008 ML550 today, I found something I really like in the way of 
detailing products.

We’ve all dealt with black plastic or vinyl trim and how it ages and gets 
chalky due to exposure to the elements and age. With cars in Florida this is 
accelerated, as the sun can be pretty brutal here as can the temperatures. I’ve 
tried all sorts of “back to black” and other such trim treatments, none of 
which seemed to last long (or at all.)

On a recommendation from a detailing buddy I tried something from a company 
called “GTECHNIQ” called “Permanent Trim Restorer C4”.

It’s not cheap, I think the little 15 ml bottle I got cost around $30, but I'm 
pretty much willing to try almost anything once if I see some good results 
others have experienced.

On the ML550 there is black plastic trim that runs along the rocker panel area 
above the running boards (if you have them.) It’s a flat black textured 
material like most black trim, and mine was pretty chalky. They give you some 
applicators with the product, which is nice. They also recommend the use of 
gloves, as it does have some nasty solvents in it from the looks of the 
ingredients.

Application was simple, wipe on, let dry, wipe off any excess. The results were 
instantly apparent, but I don’t put a lot of stock in that because most of the 
trim restoration product I’ve tried look great when first applied.

I’ll watch this stuff carefully over the next few weeks and see how it shapes 
up. My initial experience has been good.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha....

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a real problem with all these garage queens.  Cars were built to 
be driven not on exhibit in a museum or to just sit in a garage.  It's 
fun to see them, but would be more fun to see them running and driven 
like real cars.  I think about the guy here who has all these Rollers 
100+/-yo and he drives them all and maintains them, and they look really 
nice, but he uses them as they were meant to and enjoys them for what 
they are


--FT

On 8/13/21 7:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

https://pebble.hagerty.com/video/watch-car-detailing-and-preparation-for-the-pebble-beach-concours

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Re: [MBZ] Martha....

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You ought to enter Dimitri.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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[MBZ] Martha....

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

https://pebble.hagerty.com/video/watch-car-detailing-and-preparation-for-the-pebble-beach-concours/?fbclid=IwAR0A8RPl0tX6fV9u-rf5vNLa9fLITCiGv4IDxtRhqfXuXlsSB1nfMzjpFTc_aem_AcJUONdP1I8CKWL4uEXuHaj1LKUjcSB5EIn3xwtxeRScoe6z62FvYmTocQQj9lw18b2K3C7Z9wC5R_AMCMuEupo6yFZnewSIhwQw6nQYtnIbuBVjWGPDj0bOFq0gbrwgfks

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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ll call every day

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> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> only series inquiries
> 
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/22/19 8:44 AM:
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/bar/d/charleston-looking-to-sale-or-trade/6825575276.html
>> 
>> Let Floyd or I know if we need to go check this out for you.
>> -
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

only series inquiries

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/22/19 8:44 AM:

https://charleston.craigslist.org/bar/d/charleston-looking-to-sale-or-trade/6825575276.html

Let Floyd or I know if we need to go check this out for you.
-
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Caleb buys these for $500 all day long...
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> Seems like a reasonable price???
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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> > That's quite a special car and well worth looking into.
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Seems like a reasonable price???
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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> That's quite a special car and well worth looking into.
>
> Jaime
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>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I just rang the guy, he says someone is coming to look at it who is 
fairly certain to buy it, but if not he will call me and let me know.


--FT

On 3/22/19 3:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

That's quite a special car and well worth looking into.

Jaime


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https://charleston.craigslist.org/bar/d/charleston-looking-to-sale-or-trade/6825575276.html

Let Floyd or I know if we need to go check this out for you.
-
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

That's quite a special car and well worth looking into.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might be able to barter by offering the seller half a dozen periods (full
stops).

Truthfully - someone local needs to inspect this car.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That is sploogeworthy.
>
> I’m a bit skeptical as the ad has been up for almost a month.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

That is sploogeworthy.

I’m a bit skeptical as the ad has been up for almost a month.

-D

> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] Martha / Jaime bait....

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/bar/d/charleston-looking-to-sale-or-trade/6825575276.html

Let Floyd or I know if we need to go check this out for you.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am pleased you got the car.  Sounds like a perfect project for you

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On 2/12/18 10:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Some observations as I collect my thoughts tonight:




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Re: [MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

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Go Martha, go!!

Bob R

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some observations as I collect my thoughts tonight:
> 
> Driving in limp home is easy-peasey.  I really didn’t know what to expect, 
> however, when I was going down the road at 30 mph I was wondering why I was 
> revving to over 3000 rpm - than I remembered that the transmission wouldn’t 
> upshift at that level, so I backed off and sure enough, it shifted.
> 
> Idle is high and sometimes rough.  It doesn’t like to start sometimes.  Hmm.
> 
> Lower engine harness is definitely kaput.  I had oil pressure - I didn’t have 
> oil pressure - then I did.
> 
> I have never driven a W124 with tighter suspension than this car. It’s 
> definitely been rebuilt recently.  Dang thing drives like it’s on rails.
> 
> Noticed a small 4-5 conductor harness between the “coffin” and the false 
> firewall that has deteriorated to the point where someone has pulled the 
> wires apart to separate them.  Hmm.  Looks like they go into a round 
> connector of some sort that’s clipped or anchored to the back of the coffin 
> box. The ETA harness is definitely a new one. All of the engine covers are in 
> place and there’s absolutely no sign of any leaks or seepage.
> 
> Interior is filthy as noted.  I am often puzzled by the conundrum of why 
> someone would spend big bucks to maintain the mechanicals on a car yet treat 
> the interior like a pig sty.  However, this will clean up nicely as will be 
> seen in a few days.
> 
> Odometer is dead. Probably needs gears.  Wonder how long it’s been that way?
> 
> Did some piddly stuff tonight before I closed up.  Pulled the BE1432 and 
> cleaned it up, popped the faceplate and cleaned connections, investigated the 
> reason for no volume down but having volume up - lousy design in the 
> mechanics of the button.  All of the speakers work now (left side didn’t when 
> I got the car) as does the fader.  Gotta love that DeOxIt fader cleaner! A 
> BE1432 faceplate exchange appears to be in my future.
> 
> Pulled the roller box out of the console, center wood and ash tray.  Cleaned 
> everything well and reinstalled. Replaced a burned out lamp in the ash tray 
> and reattached the wood trim surround.  Spring and mechanism that makes 
> ashtray toggle open/closed is buggered up and can’t be fixed, so a new (used) 
> ashtray is in my future (anyone got a W124 ashtray they want to part with?)  
> The flat metal spring in the back of the ashtray assembly that pops the ash 
> receptacle out when you push the button had come out of the back where the 
> plastic had broken down around the rivet that secured it.  New rivet with a 
> back up washer fixed that.
> 
> Did a couple of test spots on the finish, and while it’s going to take some 
> work, it looks like it should recover well.  A lot of little black spots all 
> over the car from something environmental, like a tree.  They came off with 
> some Meguire’s 105 polish, which is good.
> 
> Lots of lamps out.
> 
> Trunk is tight and dry.
> 
> Definitely needs a new ignition lock cylinder and keys.  Everything works 
> fine, but they’re definitely the original keys based on the wear and 
> condition.  I can’t get the car registered and titled until it’s drivable, 
> which means I can’t order keys or lock cylinders until then.
> 
> I’m not sure what I’ll have time for tomorrow, maybe some paint recovery. At 
> least I’ll get the diagnostics connected to it and see what it says.  Gotta 
> start putting my dealer parts order together for tomorrow.
> 
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[MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Some observations as I collect my thoughts tonight:

Driving in limp home is easy-peasey.  I really didn’t know what to expect, 
however, when I was going down the road at 30 mph I was wondering why I was 
revving to over 3000 rpm - than I remembered that the transmission wouldn’t 
upshift at that level, so I backed off and sure enough, it shifted.

Idle is high and sometimes rough.  It doesn’t like to start sometimes.  Hmm.

Lower engine harness is definitely kaput.  I had oil pressure - I didn’t have 
oil pressure - then I did.

I have never driven a W124 with tighter suspension than this car. It’s 
definitely been rebuilt recently.  Dang thing drives like it’s on rails.

Noticed a small 4-5 conductor harness between the “coffin” and the false 
firewall that has deteriorated to the point where someone has pulled the wires 
apart to separate them.  Hmm.  Looks like they go into a round connector of 
some sort that’s clipped or anchored to the back of the coffin box. The ETA 
harness is definitely a new one. All of the engine covers are in place and 
there’s absolutely no sign of any leaks or seepage.

Interior is filthy as noted.  I am often puzzled by the conundrum of why 
someone would spend big bucks to maintain the mechanicals on a car yet treat 
the interior like a pig sty.  However, this will clean up nicely as will be 
seen in a few days.

Odometer is dead. Probably needs gears.  Wonder how long it’s been that way?

Did some piddly stuff tonight before I closed up.  Pulled the BE1432 and 
cleaned it up, popped the faceplate and cleaned connections, investigated the 
reason for no volume down but having volume up - lousy design in the mechanics 
of the button.  All of the speakers work now (left side didn’t when I got the 
car) as does the fader.  Gotta love that DeOxIt fader cleaner! A BE1432 
faceplate exchange appears to be in my future.

Pulled the roller box out of the console, center wood and ash tray.  Cleaned 
everything well and reinstalled. Replaced a burned out lamp in the ash tray and 
reattached the wood trim surround.  Spring and mechanism that makes ashtray 
toggle open/closed is buggered up and can’t be fixed, so a new (used) ashtray 
is in my future (anyone got a W124 ashtray they want to part with?)  The flat 
metal spring in the back of the ashtray assembly that pops the ash receptacle 
out when you push the button had come out of the back where the plastic had 
broken down around the rivet that secured it.  New rivet with a back up washer 
fixed that.

Did a couple of test spots on the finish, and while it’s going to take some 
work, it looks like it should recover well.  A lot of little black spots all 
over the car from something environmental, like a tree.  They came off with 
some Meguire’s 105 polish, which is good.

Lots of lamps out.

Trunk is tight and dry.

Definitely needs a new ignition lock cylinder and keys.  Everything works fine, 
but they’re definitely the original keys based on the wear and condition.  I 
can’t get the car registered and titled until it’s drivable, which means I 
can’t order keys or lock cylinders until then.

I’m not sure what I’ll have time for tomorrow, maybe some paint recovery. At 
least I’ll get the diagnostics connected to it and see what it says.  Gotta 
start putting my dealer parts order together for tomorrow.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Done.  See the update:

Had a lot of stuff going on around the house and had to wait for the boys to 
clear out so I had the driveway to myself.  Got started on the exterior about 
5:00 and just came in to update the blog and hydrate.  I’ll be moving the car 
into the garage next where the lighting is far better and I can start in on 
surface prep.  That’s probably about as far as I’ll get tonight, although I’m 
seriously considering taking the time to hook it up to my DAS system and 
running the diagnostics to see what it says.

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 7:01 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pull the cladding.  You will always be wondering about the schmutz behind it 
> until you do.  Maybe it has been so packed with saturated slime for so long 
> that rust is starting to bubble up through the paint.  Kill the tin worm 
> before it eats the car!
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmmm, might be the case. I never had that problem with the 220D or the
240D. I made sure the pipes were aligned without stress and that all the
hangers were as designed.

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> I find that on the older 4 cyl dissels, if I don't use a bandaid, the new
> pipe breaks anyway.  So, when crockauto replaced the new middle pipe  for
> the 240D, THIS time, I cut it off and put a bandaid between it and the
> front pipe.  This will absorb a lot of the vibration and make the second
> new one last more than 1000 miles.
>
> If the 240D had a piece of flex in the front pipe like the OM603 300D, I
> would not need the bandaid.
>
> The 124 and 126 are the only ones I have had that DID NOT need a bandaid.
>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> May 14, 2017 at 8:53 PM
>> I've never had those work very well or for long. The goop just makes it
>> harder to fix correctly (new metal, welding) later. Do it right the first
>> time and you'll have no regrets
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I find that on the older 4 cyl dissels, if I don't use a bandaid, the 
new pipe breaks anyway.  So, when crockauto replaced the new middle 
pipe  for the 240D, THIS time, I cut it off and put a bandaid between it 
and the front pipe.  This will absorb a lot of the vibration and make 
the second new one last more than 1000 miles.


If the 240D had a piece of flex in the front pipe like the OM603 300D, I 
would not need the bandaid.


The 124 and 126 are the only ones I have had that DID NOT need a bandaid.

OK Don via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 8:53 PM
I've never had those work very well or for long. The goop just makes it
harder to fix correctly (new metal, welding) later. Do it right the first
time and you'll have no regrets


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've never had those work very well or for long. The goop just makes it
harder to fix correctly (new metal, welding) later. Do it right the first
time and you'll have no regrets

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I have an annoying exhaust leak on the sdl that I need to try to fix,
> thinking about trying some sort of band clamp and goop
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just got back from a nice 30 or so minute drive in the country in the
> E300D.  Nice.
> >
> > While it might be hard pressed to get out of the way in a hurry, it’s
> still pretty peppy considering it’s a naturally aspirated engine.  The
> smaller W124 chassis really makes driving it fun, not like the living room
> couch ride of he W126 (not that there’s anything wrong with that!)
> >
> > Exhaust is “buzzy”, no doubt due to the flex that is in the place of the
> catalyst.  I bought a Nickson band clamp at FLAPS today along with some
> Permatex exhaust sealer goop.  I’m going to try it on one end of one of the
> flex pieces where it meets the hard pipe and see how it works.  If it does
> a good job I’ll do the same to the rest of the joints.  It only looks like
> one of them is leaking.
> >
> > Dash thermometer is wacky, so I’ll need to order a new thermistor for
> it.  Hopefully I can find the part number again from Mouser.  I love the
> cheap fix - last one of these I did I probably had $5 total in the whole
> fix, if that.
> >
> > Car handles well, gets up in the 60s without a problem, tracks straight
> and true and has no noises, vibrations or rattles.
> >
> > Tomorrow I turn in a dealer order for a boatload of stuff, mainly to
> sort out the breather tubes on the valve cover.  That gets done on Saturday
> and then I’m pretty much done with it other than a differential drain and
> fill and a PS drain and fill.  I’ll be putting in new aux fans on Wednesday.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have an annoying exhaust leak on the sdl that I need to try to fix, thinking 
about trying some sort of band clamp and goop

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got back from a nice 30 or so minute drive in the country in the E300D.  
> Nice.
> 
> While it might be hard pressed to get out of the way in a hurry, it’s still 
> pretty peppy considering it’s a naturally aspirated engine.  The smaller W124 
> chassis really makes driving it fun, not like the living room couch ride of 
> he W126 (not that there’s anything wrong with that!)
> 
> Exhaust is “buzzy”, no doubt due to the flex that is in the place of the 
> catalyst.  I bought a Nickson band clamp at FLAPS today along with some 
> Permatex exhaust sealer goop.  I’m going to try it on one end of one of the 
> flex pieces where it meets the hard pipe and see how it works.  If it does a 
> good job I’ll do the same to the rest of the joints.  It only looks like one 
> of them is leaking.
> 
> Dash thermometer is wacky, so I’ll need to order a new thermistor for it.  
> Hopefully I can find the part number again from Mouser.  I love the cheap fix 
> - last one of these I did I probably had $5 total in the whole fix, if that.
> 
> Car handles well, gets up in the 60s without a problem, tracks straight and 
> true and has no noises, vibrations or rattles.
> 
> Tomorrow I turn in a dealer order for a boatload of stuff, mainly to sort out 
> the breather tubes on the valve cover.  That gets done on Saturday and then 
> I’m pretty much done with it other than a differential drain and fill and a 
> PS drain and fill.  I’ll be putting in new aux fans on Wednesday.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just got back from a nice 30 or so minute drive in the country in the E300D.  
Nice.

While it might be hard pressed to get out of the way in a hurry, it’s still 
pretty peppy considering it’s a naturally aspirated engine.  The smaller W124 
chassis really makes driving it fun, not like the living room couch ride of he 
W126 (not that there’s anything wrong with that!)

Exhaust is “buzzy”, no doubt due to the flex that is in the place of the 
catalyst.  I bought a Nickson band clamp at FLAPS today along with some 
Permatex exhaust sealer goop.  I’m going to try it on one end of one of the 
flex pieces where it meets the hard pipe and see how it works.  If it does a 
good job I’ll do the same to the rest of the joints.  It only looks like one of 
them is leaking.

Dash thermometer is wacky, so I’ll need to order a new thermistor for it.  
Hopefully I can find the part number again from Mouser.  I love the cheap fix - 
last one of these I did I probably had $5 total in the whole fix, if that.

Car handles well, gets up in the 60s without a problem, tracks straight and 
true and has no noises, vibrations or rattles.

Tomorrow I turn in a dealer order for a boatload of stuff, mainly to sort out 
the breather tubes on the valve cover.  That gets done on Saturday and then I’m 
pretty much done with it other than a differential drain and fill and a PS 
drain and fill.  I’ll be putting in new aux fans on Wednesday.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I MANAGED TO GET 100% DIESELFIED IN 1984.   Never regretted it.  Still 
disappointed that no van is available in the USA with a MFI Diesel 
engine.  The Metris did not have a stellar reputation in RTW, or I might 
have tried harder to get one of them.  The 100% Dieselfication ended in 
2006 when I inherited the company D GC.


If it was not for the van and the SL we'd could be DIeselfied in 2 
generations.  But the SL sits and she drives my 300D that was supposed 
to be SWMBOs.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Yup. Certified dieselmania. I don’t believe there is a known cure, 
short of death.


And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy. No loss of 
focus for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been 
able to avoid them. I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D 
and nothing else.


What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he 
says he wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is 
working…HA HA HA HA HA HA


May the klatta-klatta be with you.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Diesel Dan states:

>my plan to overtake the family with >diesel is working…

You'll have to get something a bit newer for SWMBO‎ though. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=e320

6.7 seconds 0-60 is pretty good. 

Not that much slower than her current ride. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=sl500

And quite possibly quicker than her former ride. 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/?s=626

‎"I wasn't flooring it"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7n7KxzVjvHY

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/
‎
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You should leave the kids in the beater 140s, the e300 seems too nice to get 
torn up.

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> On May 14, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup.  Certified dieselmania.  I don’t believe there is a known cure, short of 
> death.
> 
> And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy.  No loss of focus 
> for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been able to avoid 
> them.  I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D and nothing else.
> 
> What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he says he 
> wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is working…HA HA 
> HA HA HA HA
> 
> May the klatta-klatta be with you.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. He is going nuts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> uh oh!  here we go again!
>>> 
>>> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
 Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
 drive.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -D
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup.  Certified dieselmania.  I don’t believe there is a known cure, short of 
death.

And no, I’ve got to pass this car along to the oldest boy.  No loss of focus 
for the finnie. I’ve already been tempted by others and been able to avoid 
them.  I’m dead set on a finnie to replace the W123 300D and nothing else.

What’s funny is that I took the youngest for a ride in it and now he says he 
wants a diesel….my plan to overtake the family with diesel is working…HA HA HA 
HA HA HA

May the klatta-klatta be with you.

-D




> On May 14, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep. He is going nuts.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> uh oh!  here we go again!
>> 
>> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
>>> Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
>>> drive.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -D
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep. He is going nuts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> uh oh!  here we go again!
> 
> Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
>> Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to 
>> drive.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

We've seen this movie before...
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On May 14, 2017 2:50:55 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Great minds think alike!  I posted mine just before yours showed up!
>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> May 14, 2017 at 1:48 PM
>> Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...
>>
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Great minds think alike!  I posted mine just before yours showed up!


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...



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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

uh oh!  here we go again!

Now Dan will sell this and the SL and claim he wants a Ponton


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM
 Not sure I want to surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty 
fun to drive.


Thanks!

-D


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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Uh oh, next it'll be listed on BaT and sell for about $5k...
-- 
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On May 14, 2017 2:34:09 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I figured such.  Will do.  Drives like buttah.  Not sure I want to
>surrender this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to drive.
>

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I figured such.  Will do.  Drives like buttah.  Not sure I want to surrender 
this to the boy, it’s actually pretty fun to drive.

Thanks!

-D

> On May 14, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the shifts are late you need to loosen the cable a bit that hooks on top 
> of the engine 
> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If the shifts are late you need to loosen the cable a bit that hooks on top of 
the engine 

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> On May 14, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t get to the connection on the IP, so I split the line going to is 
> and “teed” to run to the transmission vacuum modulator.
> 
> Shifts are a little late, but very smooth.  Nice!
> 
> I’ll just have to plan on some time to sort out the vacuum system when I have 
> the manifold off.
> 
> Hmm….what to do next….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell 
>> where they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s 
>> a connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake 
>> manifold.  I don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from 
>> underneath.
>> 
>> And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
>> fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…
>> 
>> -D
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I couldn’t get to the connection on the IP, so I split the line going to is and 
“teed” to run to the transmission vacuum modulator.

Shifts are a little late, but very smooth.  Nice!

I’ll just have to plan on some time to sort out the vacuum system when I have 
the manifold off.

Hmm….what to do next….

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell 
> where they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s 
> a connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake manifold. 
>  I don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from underneath.
> 
> And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
> fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got a vacuum line diagram and did some digging.  Looks like I can tell where 
they screwed up reconnection or re-routing things.  Unfortunately it’s a 
connection on the injection pump which is buried under the intake manifold.  I 
don’t think I can reach it from above, so I’ll go at it from underneath.

And of course of all the vacuum fittings I have in stock, I don’t have a “Y” 
fitting, so it’s time for a trip to Advance Auto…

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ya think?


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 14, 2017 at 8:12 AM
 I suspect that cleaning all the crap out of the condenser helped a 
great deal…


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

ABS sensor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 14, 2017 8:57:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Thanks for that, Max.
>
>I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is
>the sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these
>cars? That’s what made me ask.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a
>forum post
>> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into
>the
>> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD
>differential
>> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The
>additive I
>> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I
>think in
>> the SL or SLC cars?
>> 
>> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon 
>wrote:
>> 
>>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what I was thinking, just wanted to be sure.  No triangle in the speedo 
that I recall.  It’s not on the build sheet, either.

Thanks!

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you had asd you would have the triangle in the speedo and the asd light. 
> The sensor on the diff is for the abs.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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> On May 14, 2017 at 8:57 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
> sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? 
> That’s what made me ask.

IIRC, my W201s have three ABS sensors, front wheels and differential input 
shaft. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If you had asd you would have the triangle in the speedo and the asd light. The 
sensor on the diff is for the abs.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that, Max.
> 
> I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
> sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? 
> That’s what made me ask.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
>> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
>> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
>> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
>> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
>> the SL or SLC cars?
>> 
>> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

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> On May 14, 2017 at 8:55 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not sure why the passenger side was all wacky.  It’s intact and was easily 
> adjusted.

A clear sign of ineptitude is when somebody tries to remove a bad bulb by 
unscrewing the adjusters. For bonus points, the really stupid don't bother 
trying to fix the aim when they eventually figure out those weren't the 
attaching screws. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"Oil additive, transmission oil” - $27.00 list.


-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
> 
>> Dan,
>> 
>> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>> 
>> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
>> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
>> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>> 
>> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
>> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
>> all was fine after that.
>> 
>> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
> the SL or SLC cars?


I would assume that friction modifier would be a good thing for any regular 
LSD, like the old fashioned unit in the 1986-1987 2.3-16v.
IIRC, the guys at a Ford diesel pickup forum I used to frequent liked the Mopar 
stuff. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would add that I turned on the AC this morning, and while it was still 
relatively cool outside (72F?) it made ice cues like ASAP.  I suspect that 
cleaning all the crap out of the condenser helped a great deal…

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did my early morning grocery run in the E300D.
> 
> No joy on the hard shifts. I’ll get under the car today and check the vacuum 
> modulator - hopefully that’s the issue. I’m going to check the line routing 
> if I can as well.  The connections from the flying saucer to the modulator 
> are pretty straightforward, the only difficult part being the stuff under the 
> manifold that you can’t see or get to easily.
> 
> Headlights were all whack-a-doo, that is, pointed in all different 
> directions.  Did a quick garage door aiming and found that the driver’s side 
> headlight was all messed up inside.  Linkages broken, stuff not anchored to 
> anything, etc.  More confirmation that the car took a hit in the front, now 
> narrowed down to the left front.
> 
> Gonna do a Curley and hit Car-Part.com and find a headlight assembly unless 
> someone here has one they want to part with.  I’ll pull this one off today 
> and have a look inside, but on a cursory inspection from the access panel 
> there’s some serious stuff going on internally I probably can’t fix.  Looks 
> like someone just put a new lens on and nothing more.  So at least I have a 
> new lens…
> 
> Car ran great other than the neck-snapping shifts.  Speaking of which, looks 
> like the driver’s headrest doesn’t work or the switch is gunked up.  
> Something else to check today.
> 
> Rear defogger did its job well and the cruise is now working, maybe from my 
> fuse replacement yesterday, so we’ve got some positive stuff for the day 
> already.
> 
> I will say that this is a fun car to drive after putting around in a W126.
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for that, Max.

I don’t think I have ASD - the build card doesn’t show it.  So what is the 
sensor or speed pickup that’s mounted on the differential in these cars? That’s 
what made me ask.

-D


> On May 14, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
> somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
> official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
> needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
> found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
> the SL or SLC cars?
> 
> All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
> 
>> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Removed the headlight assembly and inspected.

As I suspected, the plastic frame around the headlight lens was cracked in 
several places, rendering its ability to hold the lens in place worthless.

I disassembled the headlight, removed the frame and lens, and have applied JB 
Weld to the affected areas.  It’s clamped up and drying now, so by mid 
afternoon I should be able to reassemble and test.  As long as the plastic 
frame holds up, and I see no reason why it wouldn’t, we should be good to go 
with proper headlight aiming on the driver’s side headlight.

If it fails to hold up in the long term I’ll go the Curley route and hit up 
Car-Parts.com.  I checked and there are several places in town that show up as 
having these.

Not sure why the passenger side was all wacky.  It’s intact and was easily 
adjusted.

-D



> On May 14, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did my early morning grocery run in the E300D.
> 
> No joy on the hard shifts. I’ll get under the car today and check the vacuum 
> modulator - hopefully that’s the issue. I’m going to check the line routing 
> if I can as well.  The connections from the flying saucer to the modulator 
> are pretty straightforward, the only difficult part being the stuff under the 
> manifold that you can’t see or get to easily.
> 
> Headlights were all whack-a-doo, that is, pointed in all different 
> directions.  Did a quick garage door aiming and found that the driver’s side 
> headlight was all messed up inside.  Linkages broken, stuff not anchored to 
> anything, etc.  More confirmation that the car took a hit in the front, now 
> narrowed down to the left front.
> 
> Gonna do a Curley and hit Car-Part.com and find a headlight assembly unless 
> someone here has one they want to part with.  I’ll pull this one off today 
> and have a look inside, but on a cursory inspection from the access panel 
> there’s some serious stuff going on internally I probably can’t fix.  Looks 
> like someone just put a new lens on and nothing more.  So at least I have a 
> new lens…
> 
> Car ran great other than the neck-snapping shifts.  Speaking of which, looks 
> like the driver’s headrest doesn’t work or the switch is gunked up.  
> Something else to check today.
> 
> Rear defogger did its job well and the cruise is now working, maybe from my 
> fuse replacement yesterday, so we’ve got some positive stuff for the day 
> already.
> 
> I will say that this is a fun car to drive after putting around in a W126.
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

A note on that additive.  I used it based on a post I found on a forum post
somewhere, but later someone challenged me on it.  I really dug into the
official MB literature and could find nothing that said my ASD differential
needed any additive, the "normal" gear lube was specified.  The additive I
found is specified for limited slip differentials from the 70's, I think in
the SL or SLC cars?

All that to say that you may find that you don't need it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon 
> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>>
>> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
>> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
>> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>>
>> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
>> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
>> all was fine after that.
>>
>> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, and they will get up and go even though they don't have a turbo.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2017, at 6:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did my early morning grocery run in the E300D.
> 
> No joy on the hard shifts. I’ll get under the car today and check the vacuum 
> modulator - hopefully that’s the issue. I’m going to check the line routing 
> if I can as well.  The connections from the flying saucer to the modulator 
> are pretty straightforward, the only difficult part being the stuff under the 
> manifold that you can’t see or get to easily.
> 
> Headlights were all whack-a-doo, that is, pointed in all different 
> directions.  Did a quick garage door aiming and found that the driver’s side 
> headlight was all messed up inside.  Linkages broken, stuff not anchored to 
> anything, etc.  More confirmation that the car took a hit in the front, now 
> narrowed down to the left front.
> 
> Gonna do a Curley and hit Car-Part.com and find a headlight assembly unless 
> someone here has one they want to part with.  I’ll pull this one off today 
> and have a look inside, but on a cursory inspection from the access panel 
> there’s some serious stuff going on internally I probably can’t fix.  Looks 
> like someone just put a new lens on and nothing more.  So at least I have a 
> new lens…
> 
> Car ran great other than the neck-snapping shifts.  Speaking of which, looks 
> like the driver’s headrest doesn’t work or the switch is gunked up.  
> Something else to check today.
> 
> Rear defogger did its job well and the cruise is now working, maybe from my 
> fuse replacement yesterday, so we’ve got some positive stuff for the day 
> already.
> 
> I will say that this is a fun car to drive after putting around in a W126.
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Does your car have asd?

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> On May 13, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just 
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I found it!  A 000 989 82 03, Oil Additive, in a 30ml bottle.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Dan,
>
> Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.
>
> However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
> ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
> During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.
>
> I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
> the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
> all was fine after that.
>
> Now if I can find the part number for that additive...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
>> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan,

Yes, I think that's what I have in mine.

However, when I had to replace my ASD diff a few years ago, the shop
ignored my request to use the M1 and put in whatever they normally use.
During the drive home I found that it would catch on sharp turns.

I immediately drained out their stuff, and re-filled with the M1 and also
the MB limited slip diff additive.  I don't know which did the trick, but
all was fine after that.

Now if I can find the part number for that additive...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
>
> -D
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 2

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t want to be replacing flex discs as consumables.

I’ll get it sorted.  It’s just a matter of nailing it down.

-D



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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So, teach the kid to use the throttle like an on/off switch while accelerating. 
Or give him the wife's car and let her have the W124. That's her normal driving 
style with diesels, right?

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did my early morning grocery run in the E300D.

No joy on the hard shifts. I’ll get under the car today and check the vacuum 
modulator - hopefully that’s the issue. I’m going to check the line routing if 
I can as well.  The connections from the flying saucer to the modulator are 
pretty straightforward, the only difficult part being the stuff under the 
manifold that you can’t see or get to easily.

Headlights were all whack-a-doo, that is, pointed in all different directions.  
Did a quick garage door aiming and found that the driver’s side headlight was 
all messed up inside.  Linkages broken, stuff not anchored to anything, etc.  
More confirmation that the car took a hit in the front, now narrowed down to 
the left front.

Gonna do a Curley and hit Car-Part.com and find a headlight assembly unless 
someone here has one they want to part with.  I’ll pull this one off today and 
have a look inside, but on a cursory inspection from the access panel there’s 
some serious stuff going on internally I probably can’t fix.  Looks like 
someone just put a new lens on and nothing more.  So at least I have a new lens…

Car ran great other than the neck-snapping shifts.  Speaking of which, looks 
like the driver’s headrest doesn’t work or the switch is gunked up.  Something 
else to check today.

Rear defogger did its job well and the cruise is now working, maybe from my 
fuse replacement yesterday, so we’ve got some positive stuff for the day 
already.

I will say that this is a fun car to drive after putting around in a W126.
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[clay via Mercedes]

I used that in the E300D and had no issues.  The car was made unhappy by a dame 
in a SUV, but revived by a Ruskie who did a quick body panel fix and tried to 
flip the car for thrice what I sold if for


clay

> On May 13, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just 
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
> 
> -D
> 
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Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just wondered 
since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.

-D



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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:12:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were
> close by if they did have them…

It sounded like you had your keys and hat in hand and were walking out
the door.


Craig


> > On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> >> going to look….
> > 
> > You might try looking on their website first ...

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No but they are all over eBay. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
 -D
 
 
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I did check the EGR and the valve flange is blocked off with a very thin metal 
gasket, sort of the “coke can” approach.  Thank goodness, this gives me some 
hope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains 
> nothing, not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just 
> like the lack of a cabin air filter.
> 
> Grrr.
> 
> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
>> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
>> the latest e300 I picked up. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were close by 
if they did have them…

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
>> going to look….
> 
> You might try looking on their website first ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
 -D
 
 
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> going to look….

You might try looking on their website first ...


Craig

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
look….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did the final round for the day.
>> 
>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>> 
>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant 
>> flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the 
>> reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for 
>> the heater pipes in it.
>> 
>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the 
>> job.
>> 
>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
>> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade 
>> fuse as part of the relay?)
>> 
>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
>> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>> tight on this car.
>> 
>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
>> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before 
>> I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at 
>> the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from 
>> Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got under the car.
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>>> 
>>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>>> 
>>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>>> 
>>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would get the Bushing pliers for sure

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did the final round for the day.
> 
> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
> 
> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump. 
>  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, 
> but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir 
> rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater 
> pipes in it.
> 
> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
> this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.
> 
> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse 
> as part of the relay?)
> 
> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE. 
>  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not 
> looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this 
> car.
> 
> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
> got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
> point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission 
> an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting 
> the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to 
> drive it back to Grand Rapids….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got under the car.
>> 
>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>> 
>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>> 
>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>> 
>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did the final round for the day.

Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.

Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump.  
Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, but 
at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir rather 
than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater pipes in 
it.

Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.

Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back of 
the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse on 
what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse as 
part of the relay?)

Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is probably 
leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it probably is.  
Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE.  I wonder if I 
should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not looking forward 
to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this car.

All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission an 
that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting the 
300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to drive it 
back to Grand Rapids….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got under the car.
> 
> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the 
> car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak 
> and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to 
> install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little 
> more to get the leak sealed up.
> 
> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
> brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
> panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks 
> actually looks pretty good.
> 
> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
> 
> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
> of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
> cleaner, and call it a day.
> 
> -D
> 
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Got under the car.

Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to “delete” 
the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the car to my 
local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak and hope he 
doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to install a new 
catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little more to get the 
leak sealed up.

Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks actually 
looks pretty good.

Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.

Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet cleaner, 
and call it a day.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:09:04 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dan says:
> 
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> So do Toyota's. 
> But as Dimitri says
> 
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
> 
> Except Gerry. 
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   
> 
> Rick

Thanks.
Assuming you mean "age-wise", I hope you do too.
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Fans are toast.  Both have internal electrical issues, shorted windings I 
suspect based on the bench tests I did on them both.

So I’ll be running aux fanless for now.

In the meantime, anyone know where the relay would be for the fans?  I want to 
go ahead and check the circuit out so when I get replacements I can drop them 
in and know they’ll be ready to run.

Dan

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ramps.
> 
> Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
> letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
> 
> Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand. 
>  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give 
> it a shot with these.
> 
> I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must 
> have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the 
> thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell 
> out while I was taking things apart.
> 
> Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
> 
> -D
> 
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan, I've got a set if used fans if you can't.
-- 
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'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 1:22:11 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Ramps.
>
>Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car
>(oy!) and letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
>
>Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by
>hand.  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m
>going to give it a shot with these.
>
>I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There
>must have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc.
>in the thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where
>stuff fell out while I was taking things apart.
>
>Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
>
>-D
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
>> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan says:
>>> 
 It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>>> 
>>> So do Toyota's.
>>> But as Dimitri says
>>> 
>>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>>> 
>>> Except Gerry.
>>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>>> 
>>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ramps.

Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.

Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand.  
I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give it a 
shot with these.

I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must have 
been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the thing.  
There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell out while I 
was taking things apart.

Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.

-D





> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan says:
>> 
>>> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>> 
>> So do Toyota's.
>> But as Dimitri says
>> 
>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>> 
>> Except Gerry.
>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan says:
>
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>
> So do Toyota's.
> But as Dimitri says
>
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>
> Except Gerry.
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan says:

>It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

So do Toyota's. 
But as Dimitri says

"Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."

Except Gerry. 
We can make an exception for Gerry.
He has achieved maturity milestones
that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Not hard. It's been a while but I am thing the fronts have real regulators and 
not the flimsy cable ones. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s 
> widow is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it 
> gets to the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear 
> it “pop”.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s widow 
is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it gets to 
the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear it “pop”.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains nothing, 
not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just like the 
lack of a cabin air filter.

Grrr.

It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
> the latest e300 I picked up. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
>> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
>> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second 
>> guess the engineers and cut corners.
>> 
>> For instance:
>> 
>> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
>> does it?
>> 
>> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what? 
>>  They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements 
>> in.  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
>> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
>> 
>> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
>> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
>> installed fresh cabin air filters.
>> 
>> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
>> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
>> good.
>> 
>> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
>> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
>> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
>> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
>> 
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
>> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
>> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
>> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or 
>> plug. 
>> 
>> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
>> before I get under the car and poke around.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really 
>>> see unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
 finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
 
 The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a 
 bad thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
 
 Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
 interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
 the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
 this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under 
 the rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the 
 ash tray.  Nice!
 
 After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
 underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black. 
  I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s 
 the source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside 
 look OK and to be in the proper positions.
 
 In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
 breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s 
 making me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to 
 pop the aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I 
 tear into the antenna.
 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Neither from what I can see.  I’ll be sealing the opening in the intake before 
it gets started again. Sigh.

Why are people such idiots?

-D

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
> block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent 
> it from opening.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>> appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>> and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>> at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>> There is no cap or plug. 
>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done that 
would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with the 
latest e300 I picked up. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
> the engineers and cut corners.
> 
> For instance:
> 
> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
> does it?
> 
> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
> They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in. 
>  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
> 
> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
> installed fresh cabin air filters.
> 
> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
> good.
> 
> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
> 
> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 
> 
> 
> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
> before I get under the car and poke around.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
>> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>>> 
>>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>>> 
>>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
>>> interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
>>> the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
>>> this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the 
>>> rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash 
>>> tray.  Nice!
>>> 
>>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look 
>>> OK and to be in the proper positions.
>>> 
>>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>>> the antenna.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent it 
from opening.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>There is no cap or plug. 
>

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
the engineers and cut corners.

For instance:

Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
does it?

I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in.  
Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the airbox/evaporator/heater 
core.  Lovely.

So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
installed fresh cabin air filters.

While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty good.

In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high temperature 
refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into aux fan 
operation later today, I suspect.

I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air intake 
valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears to have 
cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then smashed the stub 
of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake tube appears to have 
been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 

At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted before 
I get under the car and poke around.

-D



> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>> 
>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>> 
>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
>> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
>> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this 
>> should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear 
>> seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  
>> Nice!
>> 
>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
>> and to be in the proper positions.
>> 
>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>> the antenna.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.

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> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
> 
> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
> 
> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this should 
> be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear seat 
> cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  Nice!
> 
> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  I 
> need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
> and to be in the proper positions.
> 
> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
> the antenna.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.

The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.

Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most part 
it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this should be a 
fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear seat cushion 
yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  Nice!

After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  I 
need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the source 
of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK and to be 
in the proper positions.

In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making me 
crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into the 
antenna.

-D


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[MBZ] Martha needs a spare

[clay via Mercedes]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5451171259.html

I could do the transport.


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

Would have been good advertising if I was looking for work.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:

 That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood
 polished for a few days, just to see people react.
 
 Best,
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

If it was that easy...

The choice of products and processes is really dictated by the condition of the 
finish.  It's difficult at best to suggest that what I used on this car would 
work well on another.

Considering that when you get this aggressive you're taking some of the paint 
or clear coat off in the process, you have to be very careful about what you 
use and how you go about using it.

I would not be this aggressive on a two stage paint (clear coat/base coat) as 
there would be a significant risk of polishing through the clear coat.

That's what I like about single stage paints - there is usually enough paint 
that you can get aggressive and have something to work with. The older MB 
paints of the 60s and 70s are like this - they like to get chalky and oxidize, 
but there is so much material there it's easy to polish the finish out and 
recover it nicely.

What you can't see on the S500 is the paint condition, which is pretty lousy. 
Lots of hairline cracks, scratches, etc., that aren't through the paint but are 
present in the surface. A repaint is truly the only way to fully recover the 
surface, but for mere cosmetics what I have done will suffice.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 That is amazing.  Can you put together a list of all the products you use, 
 when to use them etc?
 
 
 On 4/21/2013 10:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!
 
 See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so 
 bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying 
 to resurrect that.
 
 http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html
 
 Booyah!
 
 Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

3M Imperial Hand Glaze is good stuff, and something that works well for more 
modern vehicles with clear coat finishes, especially dark finishes that easily 
show swirl marks.

Understand that a glaze is essentially a very fine compound used to fill 
scratches after polishing. It's not a wax.

If you want to wax a car using 3M products, I recommend their Perfect-It Show 
Car Wax. Excellent stuff and very easy to apply.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:46:55 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing
 business, Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high
 voltage insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to
 minimize collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the
 surfaces.
 
 It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will
 last several years or more if you apply it correctly.
 
 Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family
 business, a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like
 to patronize them.
 
 What about 3M Imperial Hand Glaze?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Craig]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:59:46 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 That's what I like about single stage paints - there is usually enough
 paint that you can get aggressive and have something to work with. The
 older MB paints of the 60s and 70s are like this - they like to get
 chalky and oxidize, but there is so much material there it's easy to
 polish the finish out and recover it nicely.

I found that true on our '72 220D/8. With Classic Car Wax (which
apparently is no longer made) I could get it looking just wonderful,
though it took a lot of hand work.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Max Dillon]

Very nice!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was
so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money
trying to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[WILTON]

I'd say that's worth at least half a dozen ATTABOYS!

Wilton

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To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!



The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so 
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money 
trying to resurrect that.


http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Rich Thomas]

That is quite amazing how well it improves.

On another note, tell me why you select a black background for your web 
pages.


--R


On 4/21/13 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according 
to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect 
that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Rusty Cullens]

2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? 



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Penoff
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying
to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm 
doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.

2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?

As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.  No 
particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to redesign 
my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be honest.  I'm 
not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly with most people, 
so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm concerned.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

 2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Rich Thomas]

My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache 
(or eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I 
just wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or 
liked it or something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some 
deeper computerish meaning.


--R


On 4/22/13 1:44 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm 
doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.

2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?

As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.  No 
particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to redesign 
my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be honest.  I'm 
not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly with most people, 
so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm concerned.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:


2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta?


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

You want I should change it to white?

It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time.  There are others, but they 
were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple.

Dan

On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache (or 
 eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I just 
 wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or liked it or 
 something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some deeper 
 computerish meaning.
 
 --R
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Rich Thomas]

Unless you put up some more great stuff, don't change it on my account!

--R


On 4/22/13 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

You want I should change it to white?

It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time.  There are others, but they 
were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple.

Dan

On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache (or 
eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I just 
wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or liked it or 
something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some deeper computerish 
meaning.

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

I doubt it. After talking to three or four professional detailer, and I use 
the term only to describe someone who is making a living doing this, none of 
them really seemed interested in recovery work.  I suspect there is too much 
time required, and it's likely that someone who has a car in this bad of shape 
either won't care or doesn't have the money to invest in recovering the finish.

Another aspect to consider that will play out over time is how long the finish 
will stay this way. I have no idea if upon exposure to the elements that it may 
revert back to the former condition.  Hopefully, it will take some time. This 
is not something I would want to be doing every month or two (but I would if 
necessary.)

Dan

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 Wow!
 
 Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the
 results of your work?
 
 
 Craig
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Greg Fiorentino]

Pretty amazing looking!  You have a right to be proud of this
transformation!

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:37 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying
to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[WILTON]

I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good 
wax.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!


I doubt it. After talking to three or four professional detailer, and I 
use the term only to describe someone who is making a living doing this, 
none of them really seemed interested in recovery work.  I suspect there is 
too much time required, and it's likely that someone who has a car in this 
bad of shape either won't care or doesn't have the money to invest in 
recovering the finish.


Another aspect to consider that will play out over time is how long the 
finish will stay this way. I have no idea if upon exposure to the elements 
that it may revert back to the former condition.  Hopefully, it will take 
some time. This is not something I would want to be doing every month or 
two (but I would if necessary.)


Dan

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Wow!

Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the
results of your work?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[Dan Penoff]

That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing business, 
Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high voltage insulators, 
which have to be kept as clean as possible to minimize collection of dirt which 
can allow conductive paths on the surfaces.

It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will last 
several years or more if you apply it correctly.

Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family business, 
a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like to patronize them.

Dan


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 I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good wax.
 
 Wilton
 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

[WILTON]

Maybe some of the rest of us would like to get some Collinite 845.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!


That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing business, 
Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high voltage 
insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to minimize 
collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the surfaces.


It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will 
last several years or more if you apply it correctly.


Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family 
business, a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like to 
patronize them.


Dan


On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, WILTON wrote:

I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good 
wax.


Wilton




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