Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-09 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
Well perhaps it may improve mileage by .03% but it's more to do with 
looks and styling, giving it a more sporty look, rather than utilitarian 
workhorse.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dodge_Ram_SRT-10.jpg
http://www.drivearabia.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-Dodge-Ram-Runner-2.jpg
http://www.carautoportal.com/car-images/dodge/dodge-ram/dodge-ram-new.jpg

Hendrik
who has no spoilers and don't need em

On 09/09/14 00:27, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
That chin spoiler is supposed to improve your mileage by preventing 
air from going under the truck on the highway. You need to make one 
that can be lifted or lowered depending on where you are driving. 
Hydraulic or air cylinders?


And the winch? Must be some way to make an anchor that you could drive 
into the ground so you could pull yourself free. I used to work with a 
fellow who was an avid hunter and fisherman. He drove 4 WD Suburbans 
and said if he had to choose he would take the winch rather than the 4WD.


RB

On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the 
Highlift jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction 
ramps) under the tire.


I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a 
plastic air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam 
getting ripped off pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When 
you're offroad you what every advantage you can get.

Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd 
I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what 
have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack.
Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying 
him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year...


-Curt




You need a big winch on the front.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift 
jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the 
tire.

I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic 
air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off 
pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

-Curt



 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 

On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. 
 When you're offroad you what every advantage you can get.

 Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 
 2wd I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck 
 what have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack.
 Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying 
 him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last 
 year...


 -Curt



You need a big winch on the front.




RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
That chin spoiler is supposed to improve your mileage by preventing air 
from going under the truck on the highway. You need to make one that can 
be lifted or lowered depending on where you are driving. Hydraulic or 
air cylinders?


And the winch? Must be some way to make an anchor that you could drive 
into the ground so you could pull yourself free. I used to work with a 
fellow who was an avid hunter and fisherman. He drove 4 WD Suburbans and 
said if he had to choose he would take the winch rather than the 4WD.


RB

On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift 
jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the 
tire.

I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air 
dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early 
on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

-Curt



  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
  


On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When 
you're offroad you what every advantage you can get.

Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd 
I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what 
have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack.
Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying 
him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year...


-Curt




You need a big winch on the front.




RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air 
dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early 
on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.


Why do you think a full size has higher EPA HWY MPG than a Ranger?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I would think the real problem with the highlift jack is finding places 
on the truck that are not going to be damaged by the jack. About the 
only spot on my truck that I can think of where I might be able to jack 
it up without damaging the bumper etc, is the receiver hitch.


RB

On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift 
jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the 
tire.

I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air 
dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early 
on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

-Curt







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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The chin spoiler and big bumper are gonna go, they're too much liability for 
what is probably minor gain. This truck gets better mileage than my Ranger did 
already, now it needs to be as good offroad, the Ranger was an excellent woods 
truck.

Winch doesn't help much when you're in the ditch. Pulling yourself forward 
won't help, pulling yourself farther into the ditch won't help. Lifting the 
truck UP and putting stuff under it will help. We've never had a winch and I've 
really never been stuck where a winch would have done me much good.
On the other hand I've gotten trucks out a couple times with Highlift jacks. 
Its a matter of matching your equipment with your situation. Ever place is 
different. Maine is much like atlantic Canada but probably unlike the Canadian 
mid-west.

I find it a mistake to generalize based on what is like in your area. What 
works for me might not work in California for instance. I almost never have to 
worry much about wildfire or being able to find water. On the other hand I 
often get caught where things are soupy.

-Curt



 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 

That chin spoiler is supposed to improve your mileage by preventing air 
from going under the truck on the highway. You need to make one that can 
be lifted or lowered depending on where you are driving. Hydraulic or 
air cylinders?

And the winch? Must be some way to make an anchor that you could drive 
into the ground so you could pull yourself free. I used to work with a 
fellow who was an avid hunter and fisherman. He drove 4 WD Suburbans and 
said if he had to choose he would take the winch rather than the 4WD.

RB




On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift 
 jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the 
 tire.

 I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic 
 air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off 
 pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

 -Curt


 
   From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
  

 On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. 
 When you're offroad you what every advantage you can get.

 Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 
 2wd I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck 
 what have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack.
 Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying 
 him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last 
 year...


 -Curt



 You need a big winch on the front.




 RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
No problem at all, you need lift-mate hooks 
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00042KGWG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8qid=1410189480sr=1keywords=hi+lift+jack

which are such a good product I wish I'd had 'em years ago. The hooks go in the 
holes in the wheels, the jack goes on the top bar the hooks at attached to and 
you lift the wheel. It puts the jack right where you want it lifting the wheel 
which means you don't have to lift so far since you don't have to hoist the 
suspension too. The hooks can also hook around a bumper so you can jack there 
if theres nothing good to jack against under the wheel.

They also sell a big foot to put under the jack. Dad will be getting (as a 
present) a REAL Hi-Lift jack along with the foot. I have a Tractor Supply 
Tractor Jack which is decent (I have jacked up the tractor with it) but not 
as good as the real thing.

-Curt



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To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 

I would think the real problem with the highlift jack is finding places 
on the truck that are not going to be damaged by the jack. About the 
only spot on my truck that I can think of where I might be able to jack 
it up without damaging the bumper etc, is the receiver hitch.

RB


On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift 
 jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the 
 tire.

 I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic 
 air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off 
 pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

 -Curt


 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
3.55 gears instead of 4.10 has something to do with it. :)

The Ranger also had a big airdam, it had the fog lights in it. The fog lights 
succumbed to the deer I hit last November. I was always surprised I never 
ripped the air dam off. The one on my Dakota came off the time I hit the jersey 
barrier along the center of 95 in a crazy snow storm I shouldn't have been out 
in.

-Curt



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Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic 
 air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off 
 pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground.

Why do you think a full size has higher EPA HWY MPG than a Ranger?

Mitch.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


I have a Tractor Supply Tractor Jack which is decent (I have jacked up the 
tractor with it) but not as good as the real thing.


My dad has one of those, but I think he got his from FarmFleet, back in the day 
when they were made in USA. One time he was jacking up the haybine with it and 
for some reason put his fingers in the hitch just as the haybine fell off the 
jack. A great ortho surgeon did a great job of reassembling the fingers, they're 
not great for typing with, but they are more than 3/4 of original length and 
they sort of work.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 08/09/2014 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

No problem at all, you need lift-mate hooks 
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00042KGWG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8qid=1410189480sr=1keywords=hi+lift+jack

which are such a good product I wish I'd had 'em years ago. The hooks go in the 
holes in the wheels, the jack goes on the top bar the hooks at attached to and 
you lift the wheel. It puts the jack right where you want it lifting the wheel 
which means you don't have to lift so far since you don't have to hoist the 
suspension too. The hooks can also hook around a bumper so you can jack there 
if theres nothing good to jack against under the wheel.

They also sell a big foot to put under the jack. Dad will be getting (as a present) a 
REAL Hi-Lift jack along with the foot. I have a Tractor Supply Tractor Jack 
which is decent (I have jacked up the tractor with it) but not as good as the real thing.

-Curt





I think I will pass on that. I like my fenders the way they are.

RB

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[MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 
4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I 
just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than 
new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to 
drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on 
the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on 
long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge 
is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do 
well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the 
ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and 
probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or 
an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers 
and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad 
performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's with the losoe gun?


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:


 http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now),
 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while
 we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
 considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.

 Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
 to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
 better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
 economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
 higher and should do well on the highway.

 I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
 the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
 and probably a limited slip differential.

 I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit
 TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require
 friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give
 better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to
 get really serious.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Loose, I mean...


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 What's with the losoe gun?


 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:


 http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now),
 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while
 we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
 considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.

 Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I
 need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated
 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare
 fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger
 was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its
 geared higher and should do well on the highway.

 I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
 the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
 and probably a limited slip differential.

 I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit
 TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require
 friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give
 better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to
 get really serious.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't know what losoe means, Google doesn't either.
I presume you took a look through my Photobucket and found this: 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_121229180_zpsv4gdcnkq.jpg
Its a Chinese made B3 airgun. My dad gave it to me as I was under-impressed 
with my Crossman 10 pump for dispatching garden pests. Its an interesting 
little gun, build just as cheap as you could possibly make one. Purportedly the 
stocks are cut from leftover pallets. Thats possibly true but mine looks better 
than that, at least there are no nail holes that have been filled with putty.
I need to order a new rear sight, it shoots low and can't come up any farther 
as the adjustment screw is too short. I'll try shimming it also but the 
adjustment screw wasn't cut square so its a poor thing at best.
Even with the bad sight its surprisingly accurate for an airgun Dad paid $16 
for. 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_081842446_HDR_zpspuxfd79t.jpg
You can see on the left where I was walking it up to the target, on the right 
although its low is a pretty good group. Not bad for a sitting position with a 
cheap gun anyway. With careful aim it'd kill a squirrel as is.

I had been contemplating something in the $200 range and might still go there, 
airguns are fun, inexpensive, cheap to shoot and nobody complains if I shoot 
right in my backyard...

-Curt



 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 


What's with the losoe gun?



On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l 
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked 
it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably 
cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to 
drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on 
the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on 
long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the 
Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and 
should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the 
ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and 
probably a limited slip differential.

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or 
an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction 
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better 
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really 
serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Nice looking truck. I would have cheerfully bought another used truck 
too but I did not want to spend a lot of time looking. They do exist but 
the hunting can be discouraging.
A neighbor bought a decent looking F150 shortly after I got my 2013. I 
do not recall the year or the mileage but he paid $12K and I would have 
been prepared to pay that for it.


Unless I have bad luck and it gets wrecked, I will probably have my 2013 
for a very long time. I don't put huge miles on and I am fairly easy on 
a vehicle in my opinion so I am not likely to wear it out fast so buying 
a new one is not the worst idea I have ever had.


My 02 had 90K miles on it when I bought it and now has 180K and is going 
strong. I gave it to my younger son and he has repaired a couple of 
things but so far nothing really major. There was an exhaust leak that 
was fixed with nothing more than new gaskets and studs. He has done a 
bit of work on the suspension and brakes but just normal wear items.
It has a bit of rust in the rocker panels and the seats are worn a bit 
but it still looks good and runs and rides well. He is going to put new 
shocks on it. I never did and cannot say if the one's on it are original 
or not.


RB

On 05/09/2014 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 
4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I 
just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than 
new and only has 75,000 miles.

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to 
drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on 
the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on 
long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge 
is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do 
well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the 
ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and 
probably a limited slip differential.

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or 
an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers 
and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad 
performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


I am also told that one can often improve a a cheap airgun with fairly 
basic work. I do not recall enough detail to give specifics but I also 
follow a metal working forum and some of the fellows over there were 
talking about the improvements that can be made without much effort.


I want one too but the better ones require that I get a different 
firearms licence. I would have to go and take a weekend course in order 
to qualify. I have a possession licence that permits me to keep the guns 
I have but not to acquire more without the upgrade to the licence. I 
could get my son to buy it as he has the licence I guess. A left over 
remnant from the gun control laws of a few years back that required us 
all to register our guns.  a bit wierd as some of mine were old enough 
to not have serial numbers etc so they sent me stickers that I was 
supposed to apply to them. They would not have lasted long if one used 
the gun at all outdoors.


RB

On 05/09/2014 1:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know what losoe means, Google doesn't either.
I presume you took a look through my Photobucket and found this: 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_121229180_zpsv4gdcnkq.jpg
Its a Chinese made B3 airgun. My dad gave it to me as I was under-impressed 
with my Crossman 10 pump for dispatching garden pests. Its an interesting 
little gun, build just as cheap as you could possibly make one. Purportedly the 
stocks are cut from leftover pallets. Thats possibly true but mine looks better 
than that, at least there are no nail holes that have been filled with putty.
I need to order a new rear sight, it shoots low and can't come up any farther 
as the adjustment screw is too short. I'll try shimming it also but the 
adjustment screw wasn't cut square so its a poor thing at best.
Even with the bad sight its surprisingly accurate for an airgun Dad paid $16 
for. 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_081842446_HDR_zpspuxfd79t.jpg
You can see on the left where I was walking it up to the target, on the right 
although its low is a pretty good group. Not bad for a sitting position with a 
cheap gun anyway. With careful aim it'd kill a squirrel as is.

I had been contemplating something in the $200 range and might still go there, 
airguns are fun, inexpensive, cheap to shoot and nobody complains if I shoot 
right in my backyard...

-Curt







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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 05/09/2014 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state...

I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just 
cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The 
marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but 
with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000.

The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks 
around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the 
recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) 
would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air 
piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a 
scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to 
point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are 
and it didn't get more accurate with a scope.

-Curt



Only if it has a muzzle velocity over 1200 fps or something like that. 
The good ones do.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Sweet. Congratulations. Going to use it to haul Colemans to the ChowdahQ?
We could paint a tri star on the hood.
On Sep 5, 2014 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:


 http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg

 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now),
 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while
 we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
 considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.

 Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
 to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
 better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
 economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
 higher and should do well on the highway.

 I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
 the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
 and probably a limited slip differential.

 I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit
 TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require
 friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give
 better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to
 get really serious.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state...

I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just 
cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The 
marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but 
with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000.

The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks 
around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the 
recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) 
would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air 
piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a 
scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to 
point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are 
and it didn't get more accurate with a scope.

-Curt



 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 


I am also told that one can often improve a a cheap airgun with fairly 
basic work. I do not recall enough detail to give specifics but I also 
follow a metal working forum and some of the fellows over there were 
talking about the improvements that can be made without much effort.

I want one too but the better ones require that I get a different 
firearms licence. I would have to go and take a weekend course in order 
to qualify. I have a possession licence that permits me to keep the guns 
I have but not to acquire more without the upgrade to the licence. I 
could get my son to buy it as he has the licence I guess. A left over 
remnant from the gun control laws of a few years back that required us 
all to register our guns.  a bit wierd as some of mine were old enough 
to not have serial numbers etc so they sent me stickers that I was 
supposed to apply to them. They would not have lasted long if one used 
the gun at all outdoors.

RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If I ever get a gun it will be one of those trick waterpistols that shoots
sideways.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Sweet. Congratulations. Going to use it to haul Colemans to the ChowdahQ?
 We could paint a tri star on the hood.
 On Sep 5, 2014 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 wrote:

  Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:
 
 
 
 http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg
 
  2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now),
  5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while
  we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
  considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.
 
  Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I
 need
  to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
  better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare
 fuel
  economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
  19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its
 geared
  higher and should do well on the highway.
 
  I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
  the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller
 bumper
  and probably a limited slip differential.
 
  I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit
  TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require
  friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would
 give
  better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted
 to
  get really serious.
 
  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Your a losoer

--R


On 9/5/14 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Loose, I mean...


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:


What's with the losoe gun?





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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and
expense!) of adding an LSD?

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
BTW, congrats on the nice-looking truck!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Because, if it is slippery, and one wheel starts to spin, then the 
likelyhood of moving forward is much reduced.
The back would stop pushing and one would be relying solely on traction 
in the front.
With a locker in the back, if the one wheel starts to spin, then the 
other one keeps trying to move the truck forward.
The old joke about 4 wheel drive is that vehicles with it are just stuck 
a bit further in.
If it is slippery or the snow is deep etc, then you need all the help 
you can get.


My 02 F150 had a limited slip axle that would grab automatically if one 
wheel slipped.
My 13 F150 has a different style that I can turn on  by pulling out the 
knob that controls the transfer case.


It is not all that common to have a locker in the front axle. I think 
some of the hard core offroad folks do that but it is generally not 
recommended for on road use.


RB

On 05/09/2014 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and
expense!) of adding an LSD?

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles.

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential.

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
1200 fps is serious territory with an airgun, you need special pellets or they 
just come apart. I'd want to make sure kids didn't get them. I suppose 
licensing does that...

-Curt



 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
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Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
 

On 05/09/2014 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state...

 I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just 
 cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The 
 marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it 
 but with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000.

 The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks 
 around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the 
 recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) 
 would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air 
 piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards 
 a scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served 
 to point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights 
 are and it didn't get more accurate with a scope.

 -Curt



Only if it has a muzzle velocity over 1200 fps or something like that. 
The good ones do.




RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When 
you're offroad you what every advantage you can get.

Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd 
I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what 
have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack.
Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying 
him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year...


-Curt



 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
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At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and
expense!) of adding an LSD?

Greg




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Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Congratulations on your new-to-you  Dodge.  I hope it lasts for years to 
come.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 



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