[MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Oh? I thought Samsung made their own and for Sony. Ahh a Google search yields that Samsung sometimes uses their own panels but not always -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:04:15 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed They get their panels from the same Sharp factory, and just yesterday was an announcement that all 3 are investing a $bil or 2 to build another panel factory for 40 screens. The quality difference among them is most likely due to video signal processing differences among the various manufacturers. --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was over at Sams earlier this morning, took a look at various panels. Contrast ratio ran all the way from 1000:1 on an Olevia 50some to 25000:1 (or something like that) on a Sony that was a bit smaller, with prices to match. The Olevia looked like a washed-out watercolor, while the Sony was razor-sharp. The Samsung I looked at was about 1:1 and looked pretty good. I am not sure how well the eye can see the 2.5:1 difference between the better panels, but the 10:1 between the Samsung and Olevia was extremely noticeable. There was an older woman there looking at a Samsung, I mentioned I thought they were about the best value, and she agreed, and was shopping prices/sizes. YMMV. --R Frederick W Moir wrote: Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I just snagged a 19 widescreen Samsung 906BW on ebay for $170 shipped. It's crystal clear at 2000:1 with a 2ms latency. LCD monitors can digitally enhance the contrast ratio much farther than the physical LCD is capable. Where you really see quality in LCD is the latency (how quick the individual pixel can turn on and off). The lower the number, the less Haley's Comet trail you will see on the screen. Luther On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:51:18 -0600, Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, John, Clay and Rich. Ta very much! It looks like Samsung is going to get some of my money. Fred Moir Lynn MA -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Samsung 1920x1200 resolution, they come in various sizes, and make sure your video card can drive it to that resolution. Also look at contrast ratio -- the cheap ones are like 1000:1, the Samsungs are 3000:1. That makes a big difference. A good TV LCD is now up over 10k:1, maybe higher. --R Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Frederick W Moir wrote: My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. You should be able to get a good 19/20 for less than $200. One of the things about clarity is that if an LCD is not run at the resolution it was designed for, it will look very blurry. Not sure if that was the case on the ones you were looking at, but it might just be the case. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. For instance my 17 Samsung is rated for max 1280x1024, crank it down to 1024x768 and it gets blurry. Crank it down again (I can't remember, not to 800x600 but something just above) and its a native resolution and its sharp again... 19 will have the same resolution as a 17 (usually) so 1280x1024. IIRC the change is at 22 where you get 1600x1280. Oops, I just checked and the Samsung 20 gets more resolution than the 17, I was saving up for a 22-23 but maybe will go with the 20... -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:06:32 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:44:26 -0800 (PST), Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. For instance my 17 Samsung is rated for max 1280x1024, crank it down to 1024x768 and it gets blurry. Crank it down again (I can't remember, not to 800x600 but something just above) and its a native resolution and its sharp again... 19 will have the same resolution as a 17 (usually) so 1280x1024. IIRC the change is at 22 where you get 1600x1280. Oops, I just checked and the Samsung 20 gets more resolution than the 17, I was saving up for a 22-23 but maybe will go with the 20... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays
Allan Streib wrote: Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? I'm sure there are, but they're probably around $100. You can also get a TV tuner for about $50, and then you can record TV shows to the computer. Also, you can take the route my brother did... he bought a 26 720p TV that has a VGA input. Resolution is something like 1370x800. He can do PiP with the monitor TV running at the same time. If going that route, I'd get a 1080p TV... much better resolution. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got a samsung for x-mas. It is a really nice wide 22 that gave me issue on the mac because I was trying to drive it too far out of native resolution. PC Computing gives the samsungs really high reviews and they are inexpensive at the costco. Comes with both the DVI and VGA cable as well as input clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 10:06, Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Recent Comsumer Reports mag gave highest marks to Samsung TV if I recall, as well. Sony, in 2nd place. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays I got a samsung for x-mas. It is a really nice wide 22 that gave me issue on the mac because I was trying to drive it too far out of native resolution. PC Computing gives the samsungs really high reviews and they are inexpensive at the costco. Comes with both the DVI and VGA cable as well as input clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 10:06, Frederick W Moir wrote: Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20 wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They get their panels from the same Sharp factory, and just yesterday was an announcement that all 3 are investing a $bil or 2 to build another panel factory for 40 screens. The quality difference among them is most likely due to video signal processing differences among the various manufacturers. --R R A Bennell wrote: Recent Comsumer Reports mag gave highest marks to Samsung TV if I recall, as well. Sony, in 2nd place. Randy - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:45:28 -0500, Allan wrote: Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? Your asking two different things. A TV signal, (antenna, CATV) is a modulated signal with video and audio on the same cable with a threaded F connector. To view it requires tuning to a particular channel, say 3 or 4. A portable DVD player probably has video an audio on separate outputs on RCA connectors. (all three are the same except for the color). To view RF will require a tuner to turn it into base band video and audio. There are computer cards that do this. To view baseband on a computer monitor that only has an HD15 VGA connector, you need a scaler. MCM Electronics has one, part number 83-9682 for $60 http://www.mcmelectronics.com -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
