Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:37:02 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Do Okie men wear those ridiculous bolo things? I saw some bow ties at Kohls a couple months ago. Considered buying one but wasn't sure which were good ones and which weren't... http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/04/12/how-to-tie-a-bow-tie-video/ Good web site, Curt. There is a lot of good stuff there beyond how to tie ties. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
I was in construction management for years and when we built an Alumin Smelting Plant we also built a lab - and the lab floor had to withstand acid spills (acid was used frequently in testing the alum) -- we put down a epoxy floor embedded with bits of copper. The floor was polished with large spinning polishers with abrasives to wear the copper and epoxy down to a pre-determined level. Once done it was perfectly smooth and acid would not affect it. It ended up with a rosy looking appearance - from the copper I believe. BTW, what do you plan to do that the epoxy floor will not withstand? i have it in my new shop (about 5 yrs old) and except where my son used a axe to break up wood for the woodstove -- seems he missed the wood and hit the floor but it was the concrete that failed - not the epoxy Good luck! LarryT 91 300D Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store: http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156 or my Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net On 11/17/2013 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
That sounds like terrazzo, where little pebbles are embedded in the concrete then the whole thing is polished down smooth. I really like that look. I remember as a kid going into this hulk of a bank building, probably built in the 20s, that had a floor like that, divided off every 3ft or so with brass strips so that it looked like tiles with brass edging. Very cool. That would make an awesome garage floor. On another aspect, when I was in college I worked at the airport at a small FBO, my boss issued me a rag my first day and told me to keep it in my pocket. As I was walking around the hangar if I saw an oil spot on the floor I was to wipe it up. He loathed a dirty hangar. The floor was painted with something, might have been epoxy and when wet was slick as gooseshit. Oil was not A Good Thing to have on it. We had big floor squeegees to dry off any rain or drips or when we washed planes inside, and once a week we had to take a big floor buffer/cleaner and wash the whole hangar floor, which was also challenging on the wet floor with that thing wanting to take off on its own if you did not wrestle it properly. --R On 11/18/13 9:03 AM, Larry T wrote: The floor was polished with large spinning polishers with abrasives to wear the copper and epoxy down to a pre-determined level. Once done it was perfectly smooth and acid would not affect it. It ended up with a rosy looking appearance - from the copper I believe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
I will be doing lots of welding and grinding. Not sure if it will withstand the heat from the slag. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I was in construction management for years and when we built an Alumin Smelting Plant we also built a lab - and the lab floor had to withstand acid spills (acid was used frequently in testing the alum) -- we put down a epoxy floor embedded with bits of copper. The floor was polished with large spinning polishers with abrasives to wear the copper and epoxy down to a pre-determined level. Once done it was perfectly smooth and acid would not affect it. It ended up with a rosy looking appearance - from the copper I believe. BTW, what do you plan to do that the epoxy floor will not withstand? i have it in my new shop (about 5 yrs old) and except where my son used a axe to break up wood for the woodstove -- seems he missed the wood and hit the floor but it was the concrete that failed - not the epoxy Good luck! LarryT 91 300D Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store: http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156 or my Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net On 11/17/2013 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
Certainly shows why its $7/sqft though, looks to me like $1/sqft per pass. I count her as wearing at least 3 different pairs of pants through the video (videographers watch for costume changes) which gives an idea how long the process took... I'd suggest having one bay you use for heavy work like welding etc and do an epoxy coating on the others. Though I also like the idea of snap in tiles as you could replace just one or two should they be damaged. -Curt Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:09:26 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete Message-ID: 4514b04a-ccdc-48e7-9d70-e33b94fdf...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Haha. I saw that video yesterday. Gotta love the hot chick in heels and dress slacks polishing a concrete floor. Hell, if she can do it.. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66EaApndk1c (Preview) Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Sounds like a good deal to me. If I needed some bodywork I would certainly extend the offer. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri - I can show you how to be a real manIn exchange for you showing me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce. DWIGHT Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
What about rexthane ? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 17, 2013, at 0:43, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
What's rexane? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:22 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What about rexthane ? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 17, 2013, at 0:43, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
Close relative of bitch-a-thane…. On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What's rexane? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:22 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What about rexthane ? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 17, 2013, at 0:43, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
If you seal the concrete, it tends to reduce stains, allowing you to swab the mess up before it settles in. You would need to do that to either polished or standard slab. And repeat every years at least, so as to maintain the sealant. clay On Nov 17, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. Actually, I agree. That was my point. If a polished floor is both expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of your garage floor. The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Yeah, ties are for pussies:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
What is a good sealant? This might just be my best option after all. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: If you seal the concrete, it tends to reduce stains, allowing you to swab the mess up before it settles in. You would need to do that to either polished or standard slab. And repeat every years at least, so as to maintain the sealant. clay On Nov 17, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. Actually, I agree. That was my point. If a polished floor is both expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of your garage floor. The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
A couple quarts of used Diesel oil? Nice black floor! ;-) You'll never see another stain on it! On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What is a good sealant? This might just be my best option after all. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
I worked with a guy who was from one of the Nordic countries (Finland/Sweden/Norway) some years back, and he claimed that after an oil change they would take their waste engine oil, put it in a Hudson sprayer, and spray down the undercarriage of the car. He said it made an awful mess for anyone that had to work on the undercarriage, but it really cut down on rust and corrosion from the salt used on the roads in the winter. Dan On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, OK Don wrote: A couple quarts of used Diesel oil? Nice black floor! ;-) You'll never see another stain on it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Well I don't have to wear one but choose bow ties to go with image of vintage benz. On Nov 18, 2013 8:23 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, ties are for pussies:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
It's a single part moisture curing urethane (aliphatic, not aromatic), that's something like 2/3 solids by volume or 4/5 solids by mass. Highly abrasion resistant. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 18, 2013, at 17:33, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What's rexane? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:22 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What about rexthane ? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 17, 2013, at 0:43, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Do Okie men wear those ridiculous bolo things? I saw some bow ties at Kohls a couple months ago. Considered buying one but wasn't sure which were good ones and which weren't... http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/04/12/how-to-tie-a-bow-tie-video/ -Curt Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:20:27 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Message-ID: canzcij8_poqm0+bhq2f5rnap8+xmymecj5mwp9aqh8l6rsm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I work with a guy who claims he used to spray the underside of his car with gear oil. Says it smelled pretty bad for a day or two but never rusted. In New Hampshire most every mechanic will spray the underside of your car with oil for you... -Curt Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:54:05 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete Message-ID: a5893177-e909-40ce-ade6-016d1b1a4...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I worked with a guy who was from one of the Nordic countries (Finland/Sweden/Norway) some years back, and he claimed that after an oil change they would take their waste engine oil, put it in a Hudson sprayer, and spray down the undercarriage of the car. He said it made an awful mess for anyone that had to work on the undercarriage, but it really cut down on rust and corrosion from the salt used on the roads in the winter. Dan On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, OK Don wrote: A couple quarts of used Diesel oil? Nice black floor! ;-) You'll never see another stain on it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Fred for that wisdom. Yes real men don't give a about what anyone thinks about what they wear. On Nov 18, 2013 9:47 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had a car where the rear main seal did that automatically. On Nov 18, 2013 10:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I work with a guy who claims he used to spray the underside of his car with gear oil. Says it smelled pretty bad for a day or two but never rusted. In New Hampshire most every mechanic will spray the underside of your car with oil for you... -Curt Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:54:05 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete Message-ID: a5893177-e909-40ce-ade6-016d1b1a4...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I worked with a guy who was from one of the Nordic countries (Finland/Sweden/Norway) some years back, and he claimed that after an oil change they would take their waste engine oil, put it in a Hudson sprayer, and spray down the undercarriage of the car. He said it made an awful mess for anyone that had to work on the undercarriage, but it really cut down on rust and corrosion from the salt used on the roads in the winter. Dan On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, OK Don wrote: A couple quarts of used Diesel oil? Nice black floor! ;-) You'll never see another stain on it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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True - that was what I was thinking, just NEVER occured to me that someone would want to wear a tie! :-) On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Based on your location, I would suggest a penetrating sealant. They will allow for vapor transpiration as well as protection from deicing chemicals. You will need to re apply yearly, but being inside, the effects of entropy will be reduced apposed to exterior usage. A solvant based acrylic would be second choice. This puts a film on top of the floor that can breathe, but it is pretty resistant to chlorides (salt) and UV. Both are pretty simple to apply clay On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:29 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What is a good sealant? This might just be my best option after all. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: If you seal the concrete, it tends to reduce stains, allowing you to swab the mess up before it settles in. You would need to do that to either polished or standard slab. And repeat every years at least, so as to maintain the sealant. clay On Nov 17, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. Actually, I agree. That was my point. If a polished floor is both expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of your garage floor. The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well I do 2 days a week. Is my trademark. Is brand recognition for my consulting bizness. On Nov 18, 2013 10:25 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: True - that was what I was thinking, just NEVER occured to me that someone would want to wear a tie! :-) On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Real men wear (if they absolutely must wear a tie) a clip-on tie so no one can grab the tie and use it as a handle if they get involved in a fight. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Er no. A clip on bow tie is an abomination. No fighter can grab a tied bow tue. Let's get back to benzes or how Chevy got the bow tie logo. Dwight. On Nov 18, 2013 10:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Real men wear (if they absolutely must wear a tie) a clip-on tie so no one can grab the tie and use it as a handle if they get involved in a fight. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Another vote for a bow tie. Too short to grab so good for a fightin' real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Real men wear (if they absolutely must wear a tie) a clip-on tie so no one can grab the tie and use it as a handle if they get involved in a fight. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes part of the folklore is that is why doctors-esp. Pediatricians wore them- to keep kids from grabbing long ties. On Nov 18, 2013 11:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Another vote for a bow tie. Too short to grab so good for a fightin' real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Real men wear (if they absolutely must wear a tie) a clip-on tie so no one can grab the tie and use it as a handle if they get involved in a fight. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And 007 wears one - again a real man. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes part of the folklore is that is why doctors-esp. Pediatricians wore them- to keep kids from grabbing long ties. On Nov 18, 2013 11:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Another vote for a bow tie. Too short to grab so good for a fightin' real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Real men wear (if they absolutely must wear a tie) a clip-on tie so no one can grab the tie and use it as a handle if they get involved in a fight. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Really? Real men wear whatever they want! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Nah, REAL men don't wear ties of any kind! On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have always felt that it's stupid for MDs to wear ties (especially the regular kind), even though that's the standard. How often do ties ever get washed? If the AMA asked me I'd recommend doctors wear golg-style knit shirts as standard clinical attire. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight Giles Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Yes part of the folklore is that is why doctors-esp. Pediatricians wore them- to keep kids from grabbing long ties. On Nov 18, 2013 11:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Golf style -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:39 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties I have always felt that it's stupid for MDs to wear ties (especially the regular kind), even though that's the standard. How often do ties ever get washed? If the AMA asked me I'd recommend doctors wear golg-style knit shirts as standard clinical attire. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight Giles Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Yes part of the folklore is that is why doctors-esp. Pediatricians wore them- to keep kids from grabbing long ties. On Nov 18, 2013 11:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Very true. Leaning over the bedside, the tie will pick up all kinds of pathogens. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have always felt that it's stupid for MDs to wear ties (especially the regular kind), even though that's the standard. How often do ties ever get washed? If the AMA asked me I'd recommend doctors wear golg-style knit shirts as standard clinical attire. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight Giles Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties Yes part of the folklore is that is why doctors-esp. Pediatricians wore them- to keep kids from grabbing long ties. On Nov 18, 2013 11:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And also extremely slick. Don't drive in at any speed out of a rainstorm unless you want a rear entrance in the garage (c: The epoxy finishes are pretty good. I am getting ready to do that in my garage as soon as all the other projects around here get done. My wife wants the black and white checkerboard floor .. Hm On Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:43 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes polishing is more expensive than the slab! They did a nice smooth job but epoxy is delicate and can chip and peel. A polished surface is permanent and beautiful. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow. A three car garage with work space. I hate you. grin When we bought the Momolith, as I named the behemoth place in Indy, there was going to be a good 2-3 weeks of work done before we could move in. Amazingly, the garage floor was almost pristine, considering the original owners had lived in the house for 2-3 years before bailing. I did a lot of research an ended up doing an epoxy finish using the Rustoleum products. I spent a lot of time doing the prep, which, like anything else, is the key to getting good results. This included an acid etch of the whole floor as well as borrowing a Blastrac scarifier from a dairy farm buddy to very lightly rough up the floor. The Rustoleum product is a two part epoxy that you mix prior to application with a working time of about 2 hours, IIRC. I also added some of the sand material to it as well, since cars would be in here with water and snow, making the finished floor like a skating rink otherwise. All in all it worked out well and the end result was satisfactory. I had one area where it lifted due to tire heat despite having cured for over a week. I took pictures of this and sent a note to the Rustoleum people, who called me and discussed the possibilities for a fix. They sent me some materials for free, which I used to fix the lifted area. Second time must have been the key, as it was fine after that. The new material blended well and was imperceptible as a fix after it cured. I had a former fellow employee who's husband had a business that did poured epoxy floors, such as those that are used in commercial labs (his biggest customer was Eli Lilly.) I tried to track him down to see if he could do my garage but I was never able to find him. That would have been the way to go, but I'm sure it would have been expensive. I think the DIY stuff is fine, but you have to make sure the surface is surgically clean for it to stick. If there is any question about your ability to achieve this, leave it to a professional. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about those snap-down plastic tiles? They come in many colors and look quite sturdy. --R On 11/17/13 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wouldn't you be concerned about cruft getting underneath and between over time? Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: What about those snap-down plastic tiles? They come in many colors and look quite sturdy. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R On 11/17/13 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Wouldn't you be concerned about cruft getting underneath and between over time? Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: What about those snap-down plastic tiles? They come in many colors and look quite sturdy. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66EaApndk1c Jaime On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear. Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine said tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre tied. I have about 50 in my collection. Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, unfortunately there are. When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some mostly holiday themed, self tied bow ties. It seems to be hit or miss - last time I was there they actually had several racks of them and there were some pretty nice ones. I didn't want to get carried away so I only bought one. That'll teach me. eBay can be a good source for them too. I got a Jerry Garcia (regular) tie for a birthday gift last week. Not often you hear of someone getting a tie for a gift and liking it... Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine said tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre tied. I have about 50 in my collection. Dwight ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:06:26 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ Now that's a GARAGE! It looks like new construction. Is it? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a company that converts long ties to beau ties. On Nov 17, 2013 5:12 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yes, unfortunately there are. When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some mostly holiday themed, self tied bow ties. It seems to be hit or miss - last time I was there they actually had several racks of them and there were some pretty nice ones. I didn't want to get carried away so I only bought one. That'll teach me. eBay can be a good source for them too. I got a Jerry Garcia (regular) tie for a birthday gift last week. Not often you hear of someone getting a tie for a gift and liking it... Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Dan are there bow ties that are NOT self-tied? English friend of mine said tie it perfectly then mess it up, then feign surprise at idea of pre tied. I have about 50 in my collection. Dwight ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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umm, dressing refers to another aspect of a gentleman's proper arrangement, so to speak. --R On 11/17/13 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit. There are large grinders, life a floor polisher. Diamond disks are VERY expensive wear items. You can rent them for a reasonable fee. The bigger issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the pad. The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble with that much action. Another issue is the skim coating. Rough coat would be simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the soft gunk on top. Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle around the walls and in corners. Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go there, saving a little labor and cash. clay On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Nov 16, 2013 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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$7/sqft sounds reasonable, how big is the garage? — Darren Marshall, Co Founder dar...@doejo.com | 773 348 1227 | 3128 N Broadway, Chicago On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit. There are large grinders, life a floor polisher. Diamond disks are VERY expensive wear items. You can rent them for a reasonable fee. The bigger issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the pad. The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble with that much action. Another issue is the skim coating. Rough coat would be simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the soft gunk on top. Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle around the walls and in corners. Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go there, saving a little labor and cash. clay On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know what you're referring to. Dressing a bow tie doesn't require letting out one side of it or asking the wearer which side they prefer... Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: umm, dressing refers to another aspect of a gentleman's proper arrangement, so to speak. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. Alex What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. /rant My hangar has what I thought was an epoxy paint on the concrete, but I spilled a bit of B12 Chemtool on it once, and it looked like old paint with paint stripper on it - bullbed right up! I flattened it a bit and let it dry out - at least it is still in place. While it is nice to have a painted floor, and it sweeps easily, it is dangerously slick with the slightest bit of dust or water on it. I can't move the plane if the bottom of my shoes are damp. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan wrote: When I was at Penney's today I found one little rotating rack with some mostly holiday themed, self tied bow ties. 15 years ago the only place to find self tied was Nordstrom's. I have never thought self tied was difficult in the least. Easy to tie just right. Now you say they are at Penny's? - I want to see that. From a time that they could not be found to Penny's - this culture is goofed. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Darren wrote: — Darren Marshall, Co Founder I looked at the bowtruss blog and found many pictures. Are you in the blog pictures? Put up a link. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. Actually, I agree. That was my point. If a polished floor is both expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of your garage floor. The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other formals! Two difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then they would be apropos. Oh yeah you're a college prof:)! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear. Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's a four car, that is 1250 sq ft. At $7 per sq ft I just can't do it! This will be my dream garage. Timber frame construction, loft, bathroom! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: $7/sqft sounds reasonable, how big is the garage? — Darren Marshall, Co Founder dar...@doejo.com | 773 348 1227 | 3128 N Broadway, Chicago On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Depends on how large an area you are trying to hit. There are large grinders, life a floor polisher. Diamond disks are VERY expensive wear items. You can rent them for a reasonable fee. The bigger issue, beyond days of hard labor dancing with a machine, is the cure of the pad. The older the thing, the gooder, as it might be too soft or crumble with that much action. Another issue is the skim coating. Rough coat would be simpler to work with instead of having to grind through all the soft gunk on top. Like redoing a wood floor, you will also need smaller grinders to tackle around the walls and in corners. Maybe the cabinets and shelf units go there, saving a little labor and cash. clay On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Dimitri - I can show you how to be a real manIn exchange for you showing me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce. DWIGHT Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri - I can show you how to be a real manIn exchange for you showing me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce. DWIGHT Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
They're really not any harder to tie than a regular tie. It's just different, that's all. Once you know the basics it's pretty easy. Just like long ties, some have a better hand and are easier to tie than others. You have to fiddle with them a little once tied to get everything even, but other than that it's pretty straightforward. Dan who is not a college professor but works in education Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other formals! Two difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then they would be apropos. Oh yeah you're a college prof:)! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear. Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
So polished appeals to me more than epoxy/paint because it is less affected by welding slag, sparks from grinding, etc. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is properly polished concrete resistant to oil to the same degree as epoxy? If not, I don't see the point for a garage. First time you tip over a pan full of dirty oil by accident, it's ruined. What? A little oil stain will make the car fall through the floor? I can't fathom the obsession with spotless garage floors. Old cars park on it, why would it need to be spotless? Who cares what it LOOKS like? I don't get it. Actually, I agree. That was my point. If a polished floor is both expensive and also doesn't protect well against stains, then it seems like the worst of both worlds, assuming you are concerned about the looks of your garage floor. The main reason why I'd paint a garage floor would be that white paint on the floor, like on the walls, makes the room a lot lighter in general. I imagine it'd also be easier to spot dropped fasteners, too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
You are absolutely correct. On Nov 17, 2013 11:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: They're really not any harder to tie than a regular tie. It's just different, that's all. Once you know the basics it's pretty easy. Just like long ties, some have a better hand and are easier to tie than others. You have to fiddle with them a little once tied to get everything even, but other than that it's pretty straightforward. Dan who is not a college professor but works in education Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: No. But I've only worn them at my senior prom and one or two other formals! Two difficult to tie. If you're the eccentric college prof then they would be apropos. Oh yeah you're a college prof:)! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Dimitri- you got a problem with bow ties? LOL. All I wear. Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 4:49 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was at JC Penney this morning picking up some new bow ties and I noticed that in some of their trendy departments the floors were polished concrete. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They just snap together, pop them up and use the vac and a mop. In Houston there was an outfit that used these to make basketball courts and such outdoors, I used to see them around here and there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Ok. Where is your new garage? On Nov 17, 2013 11:00 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri - I can show you how to be a real manIn exchange for you showing me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce. DWIGHT Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
Haha. I saw that video yesterday. Gotta love the hot chick in heels and dress slacks polishing a concrete floor. Hell, if she can do it.. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66EaApndk1c Jaime On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: I did a bunch of research on garage floor coatings earlier this year. I initially was going to go for a DIY epoxy job, but after more and more research I determined it wouldn't hold up to what I'd subject it to. I considered tile and polish too. I rejected polish due to the huge amount of effort it was and its not really a good surface for working on cars. There is a good video on youtube somewhere showing how many steps are involved. Its huge. I rejected tile base on advice of friends who have it. I ended up going overboard with a professionally installed quartz epoxy floor. I negotiated down to about $5.50/sq ft. Here are some photos of before, during, after: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_08_Garage_Floor/ So far I've spilled some pretty horrible stuff on it and done all sorts of jobs in the garage and its always cleaned up easily. And it doesn't get slippery when wet. No regrets. If you're going to want a long-term permanent solution, I highly recommend it. I didin't to be faced with re-doing this job 5-10 years from now, which was one of the main factors in my decision. Jaime On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete and bow ties
Brunswick, ME. You've been to the house! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Where is your new garage? On Nov 17, 2013 11:00 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like a plan! You know where to find me! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri - I can show you how to be a real manIn exchange for you showing me how to fix that inner fender rust on my CD without tearing everything out.. In fact I will give you the bow tie of your chouce. DWIGHT Dwight On Nov 17, 2013 10:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Guess I'm not a real man:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have bow tie Wednesday in my office. I have a pretty decent collection of them, but I like adding to it from time to time. I would add that these are real or what are known as self tied bow ties which are required to be tied, not the poseur pre-tied ones that have a strap that you hook around your neck. A real man can tie a bow tie. It's a PITA, for sure, but it's not hard to do once you know how. The hard part is getting the tie dressed when you're done. Dan On Nov 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why are you wearing bow ties!? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Polishing concrete
I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Polishing concrete
Yes polishing is more expensive than the slab! They did a nice smooth job but epoxy is delicate and can chip and peel. A polished surface is permanent and beautiful. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:25:03 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm building a new garage and the slab is poured. I'm thinking about having a polished concrete surface. The guy who poured the slab quoted me $7 per square foot. This is way beyond my budget. I was therefore thinking about doing it myself. Does anyone know if this is a DIY type of job. Anyone with any experience polishing concrete floors? $7/square foot?! Just to polish?! I paid only $5/square foot for our 6 thick, fiber and mesh reinforced, 4000 psi concrete driveway. BTW, why do you want it polished? Did the guy who placed it not give it a smooth surface? Would not putting down an epoxy finish (which is very much a DIY project) give you a nice finish? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
