Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Sorry - I was thinking of my sedan - I should have looked at the manual before I spoke up. Thx for the great explanation - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. LarryT wrote: Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. The sedan is different than the wagon. On a sedan, the bottom of the fuel tank is above axles. On the wagon, the bottom of the fuel tank is the lowest point under the body between the bumper and the differential - analogous to the spare tire well on the sedan. So on the sedan, the fuel outlet is a hose attached to the middle of the strainer plug unit. On the wagon, it would promply be torn off! So the outlet pipe is actually inside the tank. It run from the strainer to the front of the tank and out through the side. Earlier I made an error in my correction of my previous error. Making a mistake when correcting an error is, well, embarrassing... The fuel supply line is not with the guage sender, but it's own port low on the front of the tank. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. The plug for the strainer looks a bit like a drain plug - but it has as screen in it. It is actually a two layer outlet port. This is sort of like a banjo bolt. The screen has two sealing surfaces. The upper one seals to the tank body. The downstream side of the screen is the space between the upper and lower seals. This consists of a pipe wrapping around the hole - but with the side facing the hole removed. The pipe leads out to the port at the front of the tank. I picture could work so much better than words for this... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
No, the screen in a wagon or the older models (with bottom drain) is not attached to a hose. Just unscrew the plug and the screen comes out with it. Simple. The fuel pickup is inside the tank and it stays put. These all have the tank between the frame rails ahead of the bumper. 123, 126 and later sedans with the seat behind the back seat have the hose coming out the middle of the plug that holds the screen in. So now I am worried. I thought all I had to do was unscrew the coarse screen filter with my 22mm hex tool (allen) but it appears the end of the filter that is inside the tank will be attached to some sort of fuel hose that i will need to disconnect in order to R/R the filter. Or maybe not. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 123 wagon tank is analogous to the underbody fuel tank in the 110, 111, 112, 108, 114 and 115 tanks, (pre-1977 or so) Drain is a large female hex in the middle of the bottom side of the tank. The screen is inside the drain plug. All three fuel lines go into the tank, and the inlet comes from inside the screen, then through the tank to the front of the tank, where it exits, as Philip says. You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. LarryT wrote: Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. The sedan is different than the wagon. On a sedan, the bottom of the fuel tank is above axles. On the wagon, the bottom of the fuel tank is the lowest point under the body between the bumper and the differential - analogous to the spare tire well on the sedan. So on the sedan, the fuel outlet is a hose attached to the middle of the strainer plug unit. On the wagon, it would promply be torn off! So the outlet pipe is actually inside the tank. It run from the strainer to the front of the tank and out through the side. Earlier I made an error in my correction of my previous error. Making a mistake when correcting an error is, well, embarrassing... The fuel supply line is not with the guage sender, but it's own port low on the front of the tank. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. The plug for the strainer looks a bit like a drain plug - but it has as screen in it. It is actually a two layer outlet port. This is sort of like a banjo bolt. The screen has two sealing surfaces. The upper one seals to the tank body. The downstream side of the screen is the space between the upper and lower seals. This consists of a pipe wrapping around the hole - but with the side facing the hole removed. The pipe leads out to the port at the front of the tank. I picture could work so much better than words for this... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Doesn't a hose assembly come off that fitting? It is all one assembly that screws into the filter, but it connects to the fuel line up the way a bit. --R On 6/15/2010 9:15 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Fmiserfmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Maybe on the inside of the tank, but I doubt it. How do I attach a photo? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Doesn't a hose assembly come off that fitting? It is all one assembly that screws into the filter, but it connects to the fuel line up the way a bit. --R On 6/15/2010 9:15 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Fmiserfmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. Good luck - LarryT 91 300D, 78 240D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Rich Thomas wrote: Doesn't a hose assembly come off that fitting? It is all one assembly that screws into the filter, but it connects to the fuel line up the way a bit. No. I mis-spoke when I said hose. The fuel line is part of the gauge sender thing that's attached to the top of the tank, as I recall. It was accessible from inside on my car with the 3rd seat. I have not looked at one without the seat, but I suspect it too has access. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
OK start at the other end and follow the fuel line back from the engine to the tank. At some point there will be a rubber hose attached to the hard fuel line, which will then go into the tank via a fitting at the bottom of the strainer filter. Or as someone mentioned, take the return line off, divert it to a jug or something, and run the engine until the tank is drained. --R On 6/15/2010 1:30 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Maybe on the inside of the tank, but I doubt it. How do I attach a photo? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Doesn't a hose assembly come off that fitting? It is all one assembly that screws into the filter, but it connects to the fuel line up the way a bit. --R On 6/15/2010 9:15 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Fmiserfmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. Siphon out most of what's left from the gauge sender hole. That much less to have running down your arm when you pull the hose off. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. LarryT wrote: Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. The sedan is different than the wagon. On a sedan, the bottom of the fuel tank is above axles. On the wagon, the bottom of the fuel tank is the lowest point under the body between the bumper and the differential - analogous to the spare tire well on the sedan. So on the sedan, the fuel outlet is a hose attached to the middle of the strainer plug unit. On the wagon, it would promply be torn off! So the outlet pipe is actually inside the tank. It run from the strainer to the front of the tank and out through the side. Earlier I made an error in my correction of my previous error. Making a mistake when correcting an error is, well, embarrassing... The fuel supply line is not with the guage sender, but it's own port low on the front of the tank. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. The plug for the strainer looks a bit like a drain plug - but it has as screen in it. It is actually a two layer outlet port. This is sort of like a banjo bolt. The screen has two sealing surfaces. The upper one seals to the tank body. The downstream side of the screen is the space between the upper and lower seals. This consists of a pipe wrapping around the hole - but with the side facing the hole removed. The pipe leads out to the port at the front of the tank. I picture could work so much better than words for this... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
The 123 wagon tank is analogous to the underbody fuel tank in the 110, 111, 112, 108, 114 and 115 tanks, (pre-1977 or so) Drain is a large female hex in the middle of the bottom side of the tank. The screen is inside the drain plug. All three fuel lines go into the tank, and the inlet comes from inside the screen, then through the tank to the front of the tank, where it exits, as Philip says. You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. LarryT wrote: Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. The sedan is different than the wagon. On a sedan, the bottom of the fuel tank is above axles. On the wagon, the bottom of the fuel tank is the lowest point under the body between the bumper and the differential - analogous to the spare tire well on the sedan. So on the sedan, the fuel outlet is a hose attached to the middle of the strainer plug unit. On the wagon, it would promply be torn off! So the outlet pipe is actually inside the tank. It run from the strainer to the front of the tank and out through the side. Earlier I made an error in my correction of my previous error. Making a mistake when correcting an error is, well, embarrassing... The fuel supply line is not with the guage sender, but it's own port low on the front of the tank. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. The plug for the strainer looks a bit like a drain plug - but it has as screen in it. It is actually a two layer outlet port. This is sort of like a banjo bolt. The screen has two sealing surfaces. The upper one seals to the tank body. The downstream side of the screen is the space between the upper and lower seals. This consists of a pipe wrapping around the hole - but with the side facing the hole removed. The pipe leads out to the port at the front of the tank. I picture could work so much better than words for this... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
So now I am worried. I thought all I had to do was unscrew the coarse screen filter with my 22mm hex tool (allen) but it appears the end of the filter that is inside the tank will be attached to some sort of fuel hose that i will need to disconnect in order to R/R the filter. Or maybe not. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 123 wagon tank is analogous to the underbody fuel tank in the 110, 111, 112, 108, 114 and 115 tanks, (pre-1977 or so) Drain is a large female hex in the middle of the bottom side of the tank. The screen is inside the drain plug. All three fuel lines go into the tank, and the inlet comes from inside the screen, then through the tank to the front of the tank, where it exits, as Philip says. You wrote There is no hose on the wagon. The filter screen is simply part of a huge plug that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank. LarryT wrote: Then how does the fuel come out and get to the engine? I have a spare fuel tank fitting in my garage - just looked at it - in the center should be a attachment for a fuel line to go to the engine - this is the main fuel feed. There's a return line elsewhere. The sedan is different than the wagon. On a sedan, the bottom of the fuel tank is above axles. On the wagon, the bottom of the fuel tank is the lowest point under the body between the bumper and the differential - analogous to the spare tire well on the sedan. So on the sedan, the fuel outlet is a hose attached to the middle of the strainer plug unit. On the wagon, it would promply be torn off! So the outlet pipe is actually inside the tank. It run from the strainer to the front of the tank and out through the side. Earlier I made an error in my correction of my previous error. Making a mistake when correcting an error is, well, embarrassing... The fuel supply line is not with the guage sender, but it's own port low on the front of the tank. Perhaps your tank has a drain plug? But it won't have a filter screen on it - no need for one. The plug for the strainer looks a bit like a drain plug - but it has as screen in it. It is actually a two layer outlet port. This is sort of like a banjo bolt. The screen has two sealing surfaces. The upper one seals to the tank body. The downstream side of the screen is the space between the upper and lower seals. This consists of a pipe wrapping around the hole - but with the side facing the hole removed. The pipe leads out to the port at the front of the tank. I picture could work so much better than words for this... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
andrew strasfogel wrote: So now I am worried. I thought all I had to do was unscrew the coarse screen filter with my 22mm hex tool (allen) but it appears the end of the filter that is inside the tank will be attached to some sort of fuel hose that i will need to disconnect in order to R/R the filter. No. Or maybe not. Yes. When you unscrew the drain/screen thingy on the bottom of the tank, any fuel still in the tank will run out, follow your arm down and get you shirt soaked. But there are no hoses that need to be disconnected. Unscrewing the plug/screen also disconnects in from the feedline - which is a hard pipe, not a hose, leading out the front of the tank. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
John already answered, but I'll add that this is also known as the 'cigar' hose due to its swollen shape. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: John already answered, but I'll add that this is also known as the 'cigar' hose due to its swollen shape. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Let us know how it turns out! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR I think my tank is empty enough to simply remove through the coarse filter and catch the contents in a bucket. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: John already answered, but I'll add that this is also known as the 'cigar' hose due to its swollen shape. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John - let's grab a coffee at Puccini's when you return. My treat. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew wrote: 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. We couldn't get a wrench of any sort on it a year ago - 240D euro. My son drove it off using impact chisel which didn't damage the screen too much. Large channel-lock to put it back on, I believe. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
I have the correct tool - 22mm Allen wrench. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: andrew wrote: 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. We couldn't get a wrench of any sort on it a year ago - 240D euro. My son drove it off using impact chisel which didn't damage the screen too much. Large channel-lock to put it back on, I believe. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You sure you want to totally run it out of fuel? I think I would rather take a chance on some spillage. I have an old galvanized washtub that I think will slide under there if need be. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Didn't we have a thread on here a while back that suggested using a spark plug wrench backwards? The extension goes in through the end that the plug would normally be in and the top of the socket is essentially the right size for the tank strainer. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR I have the correct tool - 22mm Allen wrench. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: andrew wrote: 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. We couldn't get a wrench of any sort on it a year ago - 240D euro. My son drove it off using impact chisel which didn't damage the screen too much. Large channel-lock to put it back on, I believe. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John - thanks, but I already have the correct tool. I only lack the will... to get drenched with bottom-of-the-tank diesel spillage. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
The fat one off the funky banjo fitting on the top of the fuel filter. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 16:43, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! Now where EXACTLY is the return line hose you're referring to? On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I think you'll find at least a couple of gallons. Try re-routing the return line in the engine bay into a fuel can, then start the car and let the engine pump out fuel until it dies. This will allow you to extract the maximum amount of fuel prior to your diesel bath. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
Aaah.. I was offering a new filter. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 17:11, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: John - thanks, but I already have the correct tool. I only lack the will... to get drenched with bottom-of-the-tank diesel spillage. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
I suggest you will need a long handled wrench to budge it. That should keep you far enough back from the spillage to avoid getting much on yourself. Once it is cracked loose, you can either let it run out a bit around the plug or try to undo it quickly. Rubber gloves might be a good idea if you choose the latter. You probably want to have a container large eough to avoid much spillage on the ground and some cardboard or something similar on the ground to avoid a mess. No need for you to be right under it unless you plan to use an impact wrench and have to hold that. A breaker bar with a 3 or 4 foot piece of pipe will keep you back far enough hopefully. Have SWMBO stand by with the camera in case things don't go well so we can all enjoy it. Do it in the daylight and do not use a trouble light. I knew a fellow who went under a car with a trouble light to look at a leaking gas tank and ended up sort of like toast. He survived but it was not pretty. Good thing someone else was there to grab his legs and pull him out. He really should have known better as he was a mechanic with long experience but I guesss we all make mistakes once in a while. Be careful. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR John - thanks, but I already have the correct tool. I only lack the will... to get drenched with bottom-of-the-tank diesel spillage. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
I did it on the 126 a few months back (did not need to, but how could I know?). There is a fuel line that screws into the filter, I put a wrench on that (much smaller) fitting and the screen filter turned right out. Of course it was then a bugger to get the fuel line fitting out of the filter, it must have been welded in there. That line fitting and attached line is one part, it then goes to the hard fuel line. As far as fuel, I ran it way down, as far as I dared (and had a spare can in the trunk if I went TOO far), drained it out when I first detached the fuel line, into an oil catch pan, turned out not to be that much. Then only a little came out when I took out the filter, not too drenching but nitrile gloves are your friend, with a rag wrapped around your wrist. Obsessing about it turned out to be worse than doing it, --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
On a diesel? On a cold day diesel fuel will put a match out. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 17:31, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I suggest you will need a long handled wrench to budge it. That should keep you far enough back from the spillage to avoid getting much on yourself. Once it is cracked loose, you can either let it run out a bit around the plug or try to undo it quickly. Rubber gloves might be a good idea if you choose the latter. You probably want to have a container large eough to avoid much spillage on the ground and some cardboard or something similar on the ground to avoid a mess. No need for you to be right under it unless you plan to use an impact wrench and have to hold that. A breaker bar with a 3 or 4 foot piece of pipe will keep you back far enough hopefully. Have SWMBO stand by with the camera in case things don't go well so we can all enjoy it. Do it in the daylight and do not use a trouble light. I knew a fellow who went under a car with a trouble light to look at a leaking gas tank and ended up sort of like toast. He survived but it was not pretty. Good thing someone else was there to grab his legs and pull him out. He really should have known better as he was a mechanic with long experience but I guesss we all make mistakes once in a while. Be careful. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR John - thanks, but I already have the correct tool. I only lack the will... to get drenched with bottom-of-the-tank diesel spillage. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it's the same as a w126.120 one, I have a new one free for the having (we can meet in dc sometime when I am at work. I will be out until the 22nd) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:19, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? I have the tools to do the job but am wondering 1) how messy this will be, 2) what size catch tank I will need, and 3) how tightly torqued the screen will be (in a general sense) so I know how much pressure to apply and reapply when tightening. The car (3200TD) is on reserve right now, so there shouldn't be TOO much fuel gushing out. I wonder whether I can use the plastic oil change catcher that I use for oil changes, and then recycle the old fuel at the local Exxon station. There is only a reference in the service manual to this, and that is under the job of replacing the fuel tank. They say that when you R/R the fuel tank you should drain all fuel and blow out the coarse strainer. Andrew 1983 + 85 300TD, 85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 coarse fuel screen RR
andrew strasfogel wrote: Has anyone removed/replaced the coarse fuel screen filter at the bottom of the fuel tank on a W123 coupe, sedan or wagon? When I did mine, I siphoned the fuel out the level sender hole. When I unscrewed the screen there was not much left to dribble out. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
