Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
HA! And they charged me something like $275 for a new controller because mine was worn out. + Labor of course. Les Boston -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 8, 2006 05:10 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hmm. More of an intermittent surgey thing. And it only happens when I haven't used the cruise for a while, which suggests to me a mechanical problem (something taking a while to loosen up and operate smoothly after a period of dormancy)... which is why I suspected the actuator. I certainly hope the amp is the right one! GDL did ask for my VIN when I called them, so that they could make sure they were giving me a rebuilt unit appropriate to my car. The accelerator linkage ball and socket joints were supposed to be cleaned/lubed every 15/30kmi and when they start to bind the the cruise control may jerk or even cut out. When the contacts on the actuator wear, you may have problems often related to one speed. When everything is PERFECT (just as delivered from the factory) most 124.133/193 cruise controls surge - especially when climbing a hill. This was a flaw and Mercedes had a fix for it (that some have said robs the engine of power). The surge was cured in my 124.193 by adjusting the ALDA out (counterclockwise) about 1 1/2 turns to improve low end acceleration. Following that, the surge was completely gone. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
buying a rebuilt amp from them and now everything's fine except for a little variation in set speed on inclines, which I suspect is the fault of the actuator---I'll replace it the next time I have the intake manifold off. The amplifiers are full of resistors that are supposed to be tuned to the particular model of car, is it possible that yours is a slight mismatch? Is your variation an intermittent surgey thing, or does it just drop below speed more than it should? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
I believe on the '81 300D I had the reverse lights were part og the CC circuit. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. I forgot about that...yes, check the brake lights. More on that (and other stuff to) here: http://gdl-online.com/begin1.html Chris John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Start at the fuse box again (just in case). Then find the ground clusters and connectors for amp, switch, actuator, speed sensor and brake lights. Check/clean all connections. Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
All of the electronic control (vs the vacuum type used earlier) ground through the stop lamp bulbs. Sounds kinda nuts, but what happens is that when the lamps light up, there is suddenly 12V on the ground side, and the amplifier drops off line. If you don't have good, or matched, lamps, you can have problems with the CC amplifier. Usually it just won't set, but sometimes it's erratic -- won't hold speed, etc. On the Volvo, mismatched bulbs, even if brand new, will cause the lamp out warning light to come on. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting/Brake Lamp wattage
In a message dated 5/7/2006 7:37:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All of the electronic control (vs the vacuum type used earlier) ground through the stop lamp bulbs. Sounds kinda nuts, but what happens is that when the lamps light up, there is suddenly 12V on the ground side, and the amplifier drops off line. If you don't have good, or matched, lamps, you can have problems with the CC amplifier. Usually it just won't set, but sometimes it's erratic -- won't hold speed, etc. Listers, Per the above comment, I think all of the 10 pin Amps, from 76 through 80, and the 14 pin amps, used since 81, use the brake light voltage to turn off the cruise control, if it has been actuated. The factory specified bulb was the OSRAM at 21 watts. But now OSRAM has merged with Sylvania and both of them, as well as GE, have 21 watt bulbs available. I have heard, both pro and conn, that the bulb wattage is/ is not critical. More important is that the taillight assemblies have a clean ground. Since most of the fixture is plastic, the bulbs depend on a wired ground circuit, included in the multipin socket. The brown wire is usually ground in a Mercedes. Unplugging and replugging the connecter will often be enough to burnish the contacts to full continuity again. COMMERCIAL NOTE: GDL has a great disparity between what they will pay for an amplifier core, and what they charge for a core, if yours is not acceptable. I have several virgin amps that could be used for core trade ins, or maybe they will even work!! If you have buggered yours up trying to solder it, this may be a way to save some money. $30 shipped priority mail for any amp I have in my parts box. The dates range from 77 to 87 and I have at least one that is designated for stick shifts I think it is dated 4/82. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting/Brake Lamp wattage
All of the electronic control (vs the vacuum type used earlier) ground through the stop lamp bulbs. Sounds kinda nuts, but what happens is The vacuum ones (VDO at least, can't speak for the Philco/Ford units of 1975) also use the brake lamps as a virtual ground. I have heard, both pro and con, that the bulb wattage is/ is not critical. Having spent a lot of time with the vacuum circuit, the wattage of the lamps is absolutely non-critical. The relay that holds power to the amplifier has its coil grounded through the brake lamps, that is all. Even a dinky instrument cluster lamp would probably sink enough current to keep the relay on. I've not spent much time on the servomotor amps, so I can't really speak for them. (Yet.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
On 5/7/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buying a rebuilt amp from them and now everything's fine except for a little variation in set speed on inclines, which I suspect is the fault of the actuator---I'll replace it the next time I have the intake manifold off. The amplifiers are full of resistors that are supposed to be tuned to the particular model of car, is it possible that yours is a slight mismatch? Is your variation an intermittent surgey thing, or does it just drop below speed more than it should? Hmm. More of an intermittent surgey thing. And it only happens when I haven't used the cruise for a while, which suggests to me a mechanical problem (something taking a while to loosen up and operate smoothly after a period of dormancy)... which is why I suspected the actuator. I certainly hope the amp is the right one! GDL did ask for my VIN when I called them, so that they could make sure they were giving me a rebuilt unit appropriate to my car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hmm. More of an intermittent surgey thing. And it only happens when I haven't used the cruise for a while, which suggests to me a mechanical problem (something taking a while to loosen up and operate smoothly after a period of dormancy)... which is why I suspected the actuator. I certainly hope the amp is the right one! GDL did ask for my VIN when I called them, so that they could make sure they were giving me a rebuilt unit appropriate to my car. The accelerator linkage ball and socket joints were supposed to be cleaned/lubed every 15/30kmi and when they start to bind the the cruise control may jerk or even cut out. When the contacts on the actuator wear, you may have problems often related to one speed. When everything is PERFECT (just as delivered from the factory) most 124.133/193 cruise controls surge - especially when climbing a hill. This was a flaw and Mercedes had a fix for it (that some have said robs the engine of power). The surge was cured in my 124.193 by adjusting the ALDA out (counterclockwise) about 1 1/2 turns to improve low end acceleration. Following that, the surge was completely gone. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
Start with the linkages to the acuator...are they all attached, smooth (very) and lubed? Is the actuator splugged in? Are the contacts clean? (De-oxit for this) Chris Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my 92 300D, the cruise control has stopped working. One day, perfect - next, nothing. Where do I start troubleshooting? First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 07 16:43:27 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FcmLv-00075K-1p for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 07 May 2006 16:43:27 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-249.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.249] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k47GiARk022923 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 7 May 2006 09:44:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 09:43:24 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sun, 07 May 2006 09:44:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 16:43:27 - On my 92 300D, the cruise control has stopped working. One day, perfect - next, nothing. Where do I start troubleshooting? First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. These don't share a fuse, because the cruise doesn't get power with the key off. If there are no obvious problems, it could be that the solder joints inside the amplifier have finally let go. That's what I find wrong with them, time and time again. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
Sunil Hari wrote: On my 92 300D, the cruise control has stopped working. One day, perfect - next, nothing. Where do I start troubleshooting? First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Cruise control failures are often intermittent - works fine one day - not the next - works for 5 minutes - then not for an hour - then back on. Those failures are almost always because of poor solder connections. Maybe half (or more) of the cruise control amplifier failures are due to the solder joint problems and perhaps somewhat fewer from capacitor problems. The actuator CAN fail and few DIYers have repaired them so they work reliably. A few failures result from the Hall effect sensor on the speedometer failing. You can test most everything except the amplifier. The Mercedes test rig tested everything (power, switches, sensor, etc.) except the amp and if everything else was okay, the amp was presumed to be bad. Start by cleaning the contacts of the pins on the actuator plug (in the engine compartment) and the pins on the amplifier connector. If that doesn't cure the problem, then you can try resoldering the amp. There is a test for the actuator by Doug Quance that appeared on another list. Here is my test procedure for the speed sensor and actuator. I tested the hall effect sensor by placing an analog voltmeter across its input to the cruise amp and slowly moving the car. As I recall I saw a voltage fluctuation of about 2 to 8 volts. THis gave me some confidence it was working. On someone else's test procedure a resistance value for the sensor was given. I found this to be inaccurate, and I dont recall what mine read. You could also put the one wheel up on blocks and slowly drive the car to move the speedo cable and check out the sensor. The actuator I tested as follows: The resistance of the release clutch solenoid between pins 6 and 7 I measured to be: 1.3K forward biased, and infinity reverse biased. Your measurements may vary, it should read about 35 ohms forward biased. The discrepancy is due to my meter not having enough power to forward bias the diode. If you were to apply 12v and insert a current meter it should read about 320 - 325 milli amps. The feed back pot was measured at 3K ohms, thats from pin 1 to 3. The resistance between 1 3 should be = 1 2 plus 2 3. The motor measured about .25 ohms. These were static measurements that may or may not identify a problem. I felt a dynamic test would be more accurate. I tested the actuator by simulating the power thats applied to it by the CCamp. THis must be done very carefully!!! I have some spare MB female pin connectors with about 6 leads. These I placed on the plug from the actuator. I placed an ohm meter across the feedback pot contacts(alternating between the 3 connections). Before powering the clutch move the connecting rod to the accelerator to a mid point. Then connect the proper polarity of voltage from the battery to the clutch(you should hear an audible clunk). Give the servo motor a few momentary connections of power(12v). Reverse the polarity of the motor connections and again supply momentary power. I did leave the power on too long when the servo was moving to full throttle and the clutch released, I believe there are some internal limit switchs. You should see the accelerator linkage move and the resistance on the feedback pot change. After several movements this way I felt confident the actuator was functioning properly. Good luck and let me know how you make out. -- SANTÉ Doug Quance Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
On 7-May-06, at 10:20 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: The Mercedes test rig tested everything (power, switches, sensor, etc.) except the amp and if everything else was okay, the amp was presumed to be bad Actually I got back from the dealer with a fixed cruise control system on my 90's 300TDt. The test rig first tag the cruise control amp as bad, but a new one did not work. After many hours of labour (of which I was billed none of) they discovered the Hall effect sensor was faulty even tho their test rig insisted it was ok, actually it insisted everything was ok. Fortunately they had a 92ish 300E in the back lot to swap parts between to resolve this issue, I assure you they were very befuddled why their test rig lied to them... My dryly rendered comment was: What, you trust computers? In reading the testing comments I can only assume static testing of the hall effect sensor said it was ok, but when actually running it was faulty. John 1983 300TDt 364k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 166k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 174k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
On May 7, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Start at the fuse box again (just in case). Then find the ground clusters and connectors for amp, switch, actuator, speed sensor and brake lights. Check/clean all connections. Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. I forgot about that...yes, check the brake lights. More on that (and other stuff to) here: http://gdl-online.com/begin1.html Chris John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Start at the fuse box again (just in case). Then find the ground clusters and connectors for amp, switch, actuator, speed sensor and brake lights. Check/clean all connections. Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 07 19:32:40 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fcozg-00061A-RT for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 07 May 2006 19:32:40 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 20060507193236m1400p4ifie; Sun, 7 May 2006 19:32:36 + Received: from grackle ([192.168.1.5]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Fcozb-0002Ri-5I for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 07 May 2006 12:32:35 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 12:32:31 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.8 (X11/20060411) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad car names X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:32:42 - Ed Booher wrote: Bad car names? Come on guys, you aren't even scratching the surface. (I think the real reason Germans use numbers are for the very translations reasons names bring.) Honda's about to start selling a new subcompact hatchback called the Honda Fit.
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
Chris, yours was probably the most useful suggestion - I was driving it yesterday and had the lights light come on the dash. Replaced both brake lights today, I'll give it a spin later and find out if that cured it. If not ... more work. On 5/7/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. I forgot about that...yes, check the brake lights. More on that (and other stuff to) here: http://gdl-online.com/begin1.html Chris John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Start at the fuse box again (just in case). Then find the ground clusters and connectors for amp, switch, actuator, speed sensor and brake lights. Check/clean all connections. Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
the brake ligts are part of the circuit, at least in my SD, because as we all know, you hit the breaks and the cruise stops. This is explained in more detail on the GDL website. Chris Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, yours was probably the most useful suggestion - I was driving it yesterday and had the lights light come on the dash. Replaced both brake lights today, I'll give it a spin later and find out if that cured it. If not ... more work. On 5/7/06, Christopher McCann wrote: Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. I forgot about that...yes, check the brake lights. More on that (and other stuff to) here: http://gdl-online.com/begin1.html Chris John Berryman wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. Start at the fuse box again (just in case). Then find the ground clusters and connectors for amp, switch, actuator, speed sensor and brake lights. Check/clean all connections. Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Mercedes diesel - performance measured by odometer. - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 07 22:51:12 2006 Received: from 70-184-19-228.atlasok.com ([70.184.19.228] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Fcs5o-0006dO-4I for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 07 May 2006 22:51:12 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 17:51:07 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 22:51:13 - replace the cruise amp, replace the bulb Sunil Hari wrote: On my 92 300D, the cruise control has stopped working. One day, perfect - next, nothing. Where do I start troubleshooting? First, fuses have all just been replaced. Second, the rear overhead light and the small square reading light don't work. -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] 300D cruise control troubleshooting
On 5/7/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the brake ligts are part of the circuit, at least in my SD, because as we all know, you hit the breaks and the cruise stops. This is explained in more detail on the GDL website. Chris Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, yours was probably the most useful suggestion - I was driving it yesterday and had the lights light come on the dash. Replaced both brake lights today, I'll give it a spin later and find out if that cured it. If not ... more work. On 5/7/06, Christopher McCann wrote: Some cars require a specific brake light bulb for the proper function of the CC, whether or not yours does is beyond me. I forgot about that...yes, check the brake lights. More on that (and other stuff to) here: http://gdl-online.com/begin1.html GDL's site is a great resource. I went through their testing procedure last summer because my cruise was working intermittently---when it worked, it was fine, but sometimes you'd hit the switch and nothing would happen. Ended up buying a rebuilt amp from them and now everything's fine except for a little variation in set speed on inclines, which I suspect is the fault of the actuator---I'll replace it the next time I have the intake manifold off. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
