Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1

-D


> On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the DIY kind. Save some money for house repairs, do them as needed. If
> you could save money with the insurance, they would be out of business.
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, the DIY kind. Save some money for house repairs, do them as needed. If
you could save money with the insurance, they would be out of business.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anybody know or any other home warranty companies that are good?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all
> my claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
> stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had
> any problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have
> read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our
> policy
> >> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
> >> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a
> $50 co
> >> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is
> now based
> >>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs
> last
> >>  summer when they took over.
> >> 
> >>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really
> hate
> >>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with
> it since
> >>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
> >> 
> >>  -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water
> heater?  Only
> >>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it
> which kinda
> >>  eats any savings over DIY
> >> > --R
> >> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Anybody know or any other home warranty companies that are good?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my 
>> > claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being 
>> > stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
>> >> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
>> >> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our 
>> >>> policy
>> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now 
>>  based
>>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>  summer when they took over.
>> 
>>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it 
>>  since
>>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>> 
>>  -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  
>> > Only
>>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which 
>>  kinda
>>  eats any savings over DIY
>> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Due to the age of my house (coming up in 20 years) a lot of major systems are 
getting to the point of requiring replacement. Just did the AC in March of this 
year, probably going to need to do the roof in another 2-3 years. We replaced 
all the major appliances when we moved in roughly six years ago.

When the home warranty people looked at our house they saw all of this, and 
quoted us accordingly.  If my memory serves me correctly they were wanting 
nearly $200/month six years ago. Do the math, we would have lost money big time.

This is nothing more than a form of insurance. They’re betting you won’t need 
it, you’re betting you will.

In this case, we came out ahead significantly.

-D

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> 
> 
>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
>>> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>> summer when they took over.
>>> 
>>> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
>>> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
>>> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
>>> eats any savings over DIY
 --R
 Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my
> claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
> stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had
> any problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have
> read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our
> policy
> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50
> co
> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now
> based
>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>  summer when they took over.
> 
>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it
> since
>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?
> Only
>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which
> kinda
>  eats any savings over DIY
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my 
> claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being stupid) 
> and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
>> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
>> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
 out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
 summer when they took over.
 
 I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
 doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
 if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
 thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
 eats any savings over DIY
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my
claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any
> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read
> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>
>
>
> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
>>> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>> summer when they took over.
>>>
>>> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
>>> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only

>>> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which
>>> kinda
>>> eats any savings over DIY
>>>
 --R
 Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have 
read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.



On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
summer when they took over.

I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
if something goes south there won’t be any damage.

-D



On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only

thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
eats any savings over DIY

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
> summer when they took over.
>
> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>
> -D
>
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
> eats any savings over DIY
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based out 
of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last summer when 
they took over.

I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate doing, 
since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since if something 
goes south there won’t be any damage.

-D


> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only 
> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda 
> eats any savings over DIY
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here are the numbers based on an A.O. Smith 50 gallon hybrid versus a 50 gallon 
conventional:

Hybrid/Conventional

Annual energy cost: $85/$307

First hour rating (gallons): 66/75

Cost: $1284/$672 (local sales tax included)

Warranty: 10 years/12 years

UEF: 3.42/0.95

No tax credits - they lapsed in 2016.  Dang it.

I don’t know - the hybrid is pretty compelling. I can let Lowe’s carry the cost 
for 24 months as well at no interest, and I get cool air out of the deal with 
the hybrid.

I’m thinking the hybrid.  At roughly $200/year savings the difference will be 
recouped in three years.  In six years it will have effectively paid for itself 
in energy savings over a standard electric water heater.

Let’s let Mitch digest those numbers and correct me if necessary.

-D

 
> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> heat pump water heater ($1200) or a conventional electric heater ($600-$700).
> 
> Odd.  I _just_ replaced mine.  50-gallon Rheem conventional electric.  $400.  
> (22 years ago I spent $300 on the same thing.)  They offered an intriguing 
> stainless-steel option at around a 50% premium, but the 2-week delivery time 
> was a deal killer.
> 
> The hybrid heater will pay for itself in a year or less...There is also a tax 
> credit for it this year
> 
> That's pretty compelling, how trustworthy is that payback figure?  If your 
> numbers are good, the hybrid can pay for its entire _replacement_ in only two 
> years, against your other option.  Is it likely to last two years?
> 
> I’m just concerned about reliability and the controls - if they flake out 
> nothing happens.  At least with a conventional water heater you can still 
> have one element working (like mine right now) and get some warm water.
> 
> A valid concern.  But, it's a _hybrid_ heater.  There's still a conventional 
> element or two in there.
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only thing 
is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda eats any 
savings over DIY

--R
Sent from iPhone

On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> 
>> heat pump water heater ($1200) or a conventional electric heater
>> ($600-$700).
> 
> 
> Odd.  I _just_ replaced mine.  50-gallon Rheem conventional electric.
> $400.  (22 years ago I spent $300 on the same thing.)  They offered an
> intriguing stainless-steel option at around a 50% premium, but the 2-week
> delivery time was a deal killer.
> 
> The hybrid heater will pay for itself in a year or less...There is also a
>> tax credit for it this year
> 
> 
> That's pretty compelling, how trustworthy is that payback figure?  If your
> numbers are good, the hybrid can pay for its entire _replacement_ in only
> two years, against your other option.  Is it likely to last two years?
> 
> I’m just concerned about reliability and the controls - if they flake out
>> nothing happens.  At least with a conventional water heater you can still
>> have one element working (like mine right now) and get some warm water.
> 
> 
> A valid concern.  But, it's a _hybrid_ heater.  There's still a
> conventional element or two in there.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> heat pump water heater ($1200) or a conventional electric heater
> ($600-$700).


Odd.  I _just_ replaced mine.  50-gallon Rheem conventional electric.
 $400.  (22 years ago I spent $300 on the same thing.)  They offered an
intriguing stainless-steel option at around a 50% premium, but the 2-week
delivery time was a deal killer.

The hybrid heater will pay for itself in a year or less...There is also a
> tax credit for it this year


That's pretty compelling, how trustworthy is that payback figure?  If your
numbers are good, the hybrid can pay for its entire _replacement_ in only
two years, against your other option.  Is it likely to last two years?

I’m just concerned about reliability and the controls - if they flake out
> nothing happens.  At least with a conventional water heater you can still
> have one element working (like mine right now) and get some warm water.


A valid concern.  But, it's a _hybrid_ heater.  There's still a
conventional element or two in there.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True.  It could have totally crapped out and that would be ugly.  Not so for 
me, as I can do a Navy shower if necessary.

I’m just trying to decide whether or not to go with the heat pump water heater 
($1200) or a conventional electric heater ($600-$700).

The hybrid heater will pay for itself in a year or less, along with lowering 
temps in the garage since it’s working like an AC unit in reverse and dumping 
cold air into the garage.  There is also a tax credit for it this year, too.  
I’m just concerned about reliability and the controls - if they flake out 
nothing happens.  At least with a conventional water heater you can still have 
one element working (like mine right now) and get some warm water.

Anyone out there have one of these heat pump water heaters, or know someone who 
does?  I’ve looked at them closely over the past 4-5 years and they seem to be 
pretty reliable.  A O Smith seems to be the leader as far as sales.  GE was 
doing them but I don’t see them any more.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You are lucky. It could have died the day you are riding your bicycle and get 
> hit by a sprinter van (Mercedes content) and really really badly want a hot 
> shower or soak in the tub but all you can get is cold water. 
> 
> Be thankful for tepid. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm.  Shower wasn’t as hot as normal this morning….maybe a lot of other 
>> stuff is running?
>> 
>> While I’m preparing Thanksgiving dinner stuff, youngest son comes out of his 
>> bathroom, complaining that he doesn’t have any hot water for his shower.  
>> Wife pipes up, saying that yeah, she noticed the water didn’t seem as hot 
>> the last couple of days.
>> 
>> Thanks for letting me know, guys.  Guess I’ll run to the hardware store - 
>> oops!  It’s Thanksgiving - guess that’s not going to happen.  Grr.
>> 
>> Sounds like only one element is running in the water heater. Now I need to 
>> decide if I should just replace the bad element or use this opportunity to 
>> put in the heat pump water heater I’ve been looking for…. my only real 
>> concern is how noisy it will be, despite being in the garage.  The wall it’s 
>> next to is a bedroom (youngest son’s). Water heater is probably 10+ years 
>> old or close to it, so it’s most likely getting ready to start leaking, too.
>> 
>> Hmm.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Mine blew out about 4 am on an Easter morning.  Big leak.  Water blowing 
everywhere!



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
November 23, 2017 at 8:56 AM
You are lucky. It could have died the day you are riding your bicycle 
and get hit by a sprinter van (Mercedes content) and really really 
badly want a hot shower or soak in the tub but all you can get is cold 
water.


Be thankful for tepid.

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You are lucky. It could have died the day you are riding your bicycle and get 
hit by a sprinter van (Mercedes content) and really really badly want a hot 
shower or soak in the tub but all you can get is cold water. 

Be thankful for tepid. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  Shower wasn’t as hot as normal this morning….maybe a lot of other stuff 
> is running?
> 
> While I’m preparing Thanksgiving dinner stuff, youngest son comes out of his 
> bathroom, complaining that he doesn’t have any hot water for his shower.  
> Wife pipes up, saying that yeah, she noticed the water didn’t seem as hot the 
> last couple of days.
> 
> Thanks for letting me know, guys.  Guess I’ll run to the hardware store - 
> oops!  It’s Thanksgiving - guess that’s not going to happen.  Grr.
> 
> Sounds like only one element is running in the water heater. Now I need to 
> decide if I should just replace the bad element or use this opportunity to 
> put in the heat pump water heater I’ve been looking for…. my only real 
> concern is how noisy it will be, despite being in the garage.  The wall it’s 
> next to is a bedroom (youngest son’s). Water heater is probably 10+ years old 
> or close to it, so it’s most likely getting ready to start leaking, too.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
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