Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I would say that it would have been classified as a wagon, same as the Ford Bronco. Or in the vernacular of IH, International Scout, Anything less is just a car! Regards, -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Rory wrote: I would say that it would have been classified as a wagon, same as the Ford Bronco. Or in the vernacular of IH, International Scout, Anything less is just a car! The distinction between car and light truck wasn't important until CAFE came along and established different fuel economy standards for those two classes.
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Nissan won V6 of the year for about 4 or 5 years for their 3 litre motor(yes I even think Mercedes was making a V6 at that time). Very powerful, reliable and economical(in non turbo mode) It has been upgraded to the current 3.5 which found it's way into the new Z cars. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Nissan had some pretty nice 6's especially the old inline dohc 3.0 which was used in their trucks and the Maxima. The later 3.0 was a V6 which was twin turbo charged and put into the 300Z and made about 300 HP. Good engine even in non turbo form 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:01:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
When I was a little kid my great uncles had Internationals, My brother is a vintage International addict. He's got a 1942 K-7 stake body (about 5 ton capacity), and a 1948KB7 Gin pole truck. Both have the stock 90 (gross) hp 269 stroker straight sixes and 5-and-deuce crash boxes. They're pretty winded by 55 mph, but they've got enough torque to change the rotation of the earth. He's hauled 5 tons of gravel with his, and towed a rolling twin-screw semi cab unit several hundred miles. I towed a Ford Explorer with it myself. Never knew it was there. Felt like driving an NA diesel, except for the 9 mpg. At some point I'd like to have both a Scout and a big pickup with diesels. I specify diesel because I'd like to be able to afford to drive somewhere... You might be able to get both vehicles in one package. VW made a turbodiesel, 4-wheel-drive doublecab pickup on its vanagon chassis, which many are unaware has a one-ton-capacity. The syncro version, as the 4WD were called, had a 5-speed with a rock-crawler first, and could be ordered with locking diffs and a locking transfer case. They are serious offroad vehicles, and get 28 mpg. I've got a 2wd turbodiesel vanagon westfalia, drive it all over the country on assignment as a freelance writer and photographer, and love it. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 185k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
At 02:50 AM 10/24/2005, you wrote: I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. Uh, nobody was talking about the trucks. the subject was scouts, and the Nissan Diesel WAS available in Scouts. There were no Diesel options in the light trucks, because IH killed them BEFORE the 74 gas Shortage The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels BZZZT! Wrong! 266 and 304 are IH engines. The 345 and the 392 are big block IH engines. The 392 4 barrel is a powerful torquey engine. There was an amc engine used for a year or two in Scouts, when IH couldn't make enough engines, or couldn't meet smog requirements. I think it was a 302? Any AMC fans out there? NO IH gas engine shares a block with Diesels, except maybe in tractors. The v-8 diesels (powerstroke) have a different block The DT-466 series share a block with the tractors. This is known as the German engine, as the series of 6 cyl engines were designed at an IH facility in Germany. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Only the medium duties were available with Diesel. 1700 and up for sure, but the diesel may have been available in the 1600 (2 ton) Nobody ordered a 1600 with diesel if it was available. Diesels were common in 1800 and higher. 1/2 ton through 1 1/2 ton only had gas engines available. At 08:51 AM 10/24/2005, you wrote: The big trucks could be had (I think only in 1ton or above) with an IH or Detroit diesel I believe.
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:01:15PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels BZZZT! Wrong! 266 and 304 are IH engines. The 345 and the 392 are big block IH engines. The 392 4 barrel is a powerful torquey engine. There was an amc engine used for a year or two in Scouts, when IH couldn't make enough engines, or couldn't meet smog requirements. I think it was a 302? Any AMC fans out there? Two AMC engines occasionally found themselves in internationals - the AMC 401 (which was called an international 400 to not confuse international people, since IHC made a 401 cube straight six for heavier duty applications), and the AMC 258 (a straight six). There weren't a lot of them. The AMC 304 and IHC 304 don't have much in common beyond displacement and eight pistons on a common crankshaft. NO IH gas engine shares a block with Diesels, except maybe in tractors. The v-8 diesels (powerstroke) have a different block Actually, the 7.3 block started life as a gasoline engine, but was extensively modified for use as a diesel. It no longer shares much with its gasser grandfather. Which one I can't remember, but it isn't urban legend. K
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
True. I forgot about the 2wd independent front pickups/travellalls. I never really dealt with them. At 09:07 AM 10/24/2005, you wrote: Actually, though this is true for most cases, some WERE a bit more difficult than others. All of the straight axle IH's are a pretty easy conversion to any other straight axle, and any 2WD can be bolted out to a 4WD quite easily, relatively speaking. However, IH had some IFS trucks as well, and these, though the engine and tranny can get in there quite easily, converting the front end is tougher.
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Where on earth do you get your ideas from? Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Dan Weeks wrote: You might be able to get both vehicles in one package. VW made a turbodiesel, 4-wheel-drive doublecab pickup on its vanagon chassis, which many are unaware has a one-ton-capacity. I think all VW vans from the 1969 loaf vans on through the Vanagon were 1-ton vehicles. They just don't look it. I'm not sure about model years before 1969, though VW did offer some really low gearing options on the old split-windshield vans that suggest to me they were aiming for serious hauling capability. Finding tires for these vans that can handle their full weight capacity has gotten to be pretty tough; not many trucks use 14 inch wheels anymore, and you find a lot of Buses running around on passenger car tires. (They handle *much* better on truck tires, though.)
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I believe VW switched from a 3/4 ton rating to 1 ton in '62 or '63 IIRC. I've owned 6 vans/vanagons and can personally verify for their robust ability to haul a rather large sum of stuff anywhere the engine could conceivably push it. On 10/24/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think all VW vans from the 1969 loaf vans on through the Vanagon were 1-ton vehicles. They just don't look it. I'm not sure about model years before 1969, though VW did offer some really low gearing options on the old split-windshield vans that suggest to me they were aiming for serious hauling capability. Finding tires for these vans that can handle their full weight capacity has gotten to be pretty tough; not many trucks use 14 inch wheels anymore, and you find a lot of Buses running around on passenger car tires. (They handle *much* better on truck tires, though.) Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Zeitgeist wrote: I believe VW switched from a 3/4 ton rating to 1 ton in '62 or '63 IIRC. I think you're right. Weren't power brakes added about that time? I've heard the power brake booster was added primarily so they could certify it as a 1 ton vehicle.
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Somehow this has to be international scout day and what made it so weird was on my way into town this morning a rather large Scout blows by not only painted in camouflage motif with monster tires but it was sporting a 50's mercedes grill. Sorry I couldn't say which model, or if it was diesel, I was busy gawking at the grill work. On 24-Oct-05, at 7:16 PM, Mike Canfield wrote: Where on earth do you get your ideas from? Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 151k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Don't get my ideas from anywhere, I owned 4 of the damn things and if it wasn't for the lack of time and space I'd still own them 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:16:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Where on earth do you get your ideas from? Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
thanks for the correction, you are right about that. I had to look at the few service manuals I had left to see which engines were supplied AMC. my bad 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:15:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:01:15PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels BZZZT! Wrong! 266 and 304 are IH engines. The 345 and the 392 are big block IH engines. The 392 4 barrel is a powerful torquey engine. There was an amc engine used for a year or two in Scouts, when IH couldn't make enough engines, or couldn't meet smog requirements. I think it was a 302? Any AMC fans out there? Two AMC engines occasionally found themselves in internationals - the AMC 401 (which was called an international 400 to not confuse international people, since IHC made a 401 cube straight six for heavier duty applications), and the AMC 258 (a straight six). There weren't a lot of them. The AMC 304 and IHC 304 don't have much in common beyond displacement and eight pistons on a common crankshaft. NO IH gas engine shares a block with Diesels, except maybe in tractors. The v-8 diesels (powerstroke) have a different block Actually, the 7.3 block started life as a gasoline engine, but was extensively modified for use as a diesel. It no longer shares much with its gasser grandfather. Which one I can't remember, but it isn't urban legend. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I think PB first showed up with the Bay Window vans in '68, or possibly in '71 when they first were offered with front disc brakes. I do know my '67 Split Window didn't have PB. On 10/24/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're right. Weren't power brakes added about that time? I've heard the power brake booster was added primarily so they could certify it as a 1 ton vehicle. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
and what classification do you think International gave to the Scout? SUV ? 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:01:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay At 02:50 AM 10/24/2005, you wrote: I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. Uh, nobody was talking about the trucks. the subject was scouts, and the Nissan Diesel WAS available in Scouts. There were no Diesel options in the light trucks, because IH killed them BEFORE the 74 gas Shortage The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels BZZZT! Wrong! 266 and 304 are IH engines. The 345 and the 392 are big block IH engines. The 392 4 barrel is a powerful torquey engine. There was an amc engine used for a year or two in Scouts, when IH couldn't make enough engines, or couldn't meet smog requirements. I think it was a 302? Any AMC fans out there? NO IH gas engine shares a block with Diesels, except maybe in tractors. The v-8 diesels (powerstroke) have a different block The DT-466 series share a block with the tractors. This is known as the German engine, as the series of 6 cyl engines were designed at an IH facility in Germany. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Nissan had some pretty nice 6's especially the old inline dohc 3.0 which was used in their trucks and the Maxima. The later 3.0 was a V6 which was twin turbo charged and put into the 300Z and made about 300 HP. Good engine even in non turbo form 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:01:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I get the feeling someone just doesn't understand that International never used a diesel engine in their light trucks. The 304 and 345 were AMC supplied V8's and were not converted diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:38:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I'd surely love to have one of those. The turbo version is rated at something like 101hp, the na was of course less so they're obviously not speed deamons but if you're looking for speed in a Scout you need your head examined... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 13:49:19 2005 Received: from nova.its.msstate.edu ([130.18.2.42]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EU2hT-0007Pw-B0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:49:19 + Received: from [192.208.152.177] by nova.its.msstate.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.04 (built Feb 8 2005)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:49:29 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Random Stall X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:49:19 - X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:49:19 - Was driving to class this morning and completely at random the engine dropped to 1500 rpm and wouldn't go higher. Put it in neutral and it dropped to zero (go rear pump!). Coasted to the side of the road, tried to restart it, and it fired up on the first crank. Nothing appeared to be abnormal under the hood, and it ran just fine afterwards. My only guess is that the fuel had gelled, and I just got a glob of gelled fuel. I haven't filled up since Rita hit (close to a month?), and the temp this morning was 38F. After class is out I'll hit the diesel pump and get some diesel fuel that hopefully has the winter blend in it, and I'll never see the problem again. Does this sound reasonable? Torque converter is doing some funny things as well (time for a fluid change also) could this have any kind of connection? Thanks for the help! John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
BZ!!! The Nissan diesel wasn't very common but its out there. In fact in 1980 which was the last year of production most Scouts were diesels to use up the supply of engines. The big trucks could be had (I think only in 1ton or above) with an IH or Detroit diesel I believe. At some point I'd like to have both a Scout and a big pickup with diesels. I specify diesel because I'd like to be able to afford to drive somewhere... When I was a little kid my great uncles had Internationals, uncle Reg had a Scout with a piece of railroad rail affixed to the rear crossmember for added weight. His brother, my uncle Pat had a 1200 2wd crew cab that went everywhere. I didn't realize until years later that it was a 2wd. He replaced that truck when my great aunt refused to ride in it any more because it was too rusty. The Ford 4wd he bought lasted maybe 2 years but got stuck several times. Uncle Pat got sick about that time so it was sold but he swore he'd get the IH back and fix the rust since it was a much better truck. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:19:12 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 14:01:12 2005 Received: from eq1.spamarrest.com ([66.150.163.134]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1EU2sy-Bv-PQ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:01:12 + Received: from m15 (eq2.spamarrest.com [66.150.163.135]) by eq1.spamarrest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBA960C16B; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Spam Arrest WebMail (http://www.spamarrest.com/) X-Originating-IP: [130.57.22.69] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-SA-GROUP: X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [MBZ] newbie questions X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:01:13 - X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:01:13 - Clay writes: Best additive is Italian Tune Up and Biodiesel. If you have injector issues, use Diesel Purge once a year. Thanks. On your recommendation, I bought a case of Italian Tune Up on ebay, haven't received it yet. The biodiesel I'll make myself. Already have a supplier lined up (good local Chinese restaurant...), and I think I'm their first... Lee
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com Actually, though this is true for most cases, some WERE a bit more difficult than others. All of the straight axle IH's are a pretty easy conversion to any other straight axle, and any 2WD can be bolted out to a 4WD quite easily, relatively speaking. However, IH had some IFS trucks as well, and these, though the engine and tranny can get in there quite easily, converting the front end is tougher. There are some variations in the frame, as well as some differing locayions of mount bolting holes, etc. Also, the outsider engines can be a bit trickier to work back and forth with-namely the fore-mentioned nissan diesels and the AMC engines (232, 258, 401) that were used in some models. Also, the IH slant 4 which was, almost literally, one of their V8's chopped in half, and thus, had similar mounts and components, did have a different mounting angle-special intake manifold and bell housing unit required to swap one of these for a V8 in either direction. Even better for TONS of info on these is Binderbulletin.org-pretty much the definitive IH web page-will have links to others, but this seems to be the grandaddy. Michael
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
BT WRONG! From http://www.scoutconnection.com/ FAQ section: 8. When did International offer a diesel-powered Scout? 1976 was the first year for a diesel-powered Scout. International used the Nissan SD-33 diesel engine for fuel economy. Complaints of not enough power prompted International to replace the SD-33 with the SD-33T (Turbocharged) diesel engine in 1980. The diesel-powered Scouts were very popular with their fuel-saving economy of 20 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. End Quote The Nissan diesel was available for many years. Diesel Scouts are getting rare because of the high repair costs, combined with diesel ignorance. Most of the remaining Diesels have been converted to gas 345 v-8. One of the nice things about IH Scouts and pickups is that any drivetrain option can be converted to any other drivetrain option with factory parts. A 2wd 304 auto pickup can be converted to a 392 4barrel, 4 speed 4wd but unbolting and bolting on the new parts. Unfortunately, the Nissan was detuned for reliability and the turbo was detuned also. They were slow. They are about like driving a 123 240D auto, and are probably even slower than that. The engine can be tuned for more power They are, like a 240D, good dependable engines as stock. As the HP goes up the durability decreases. International's own diesel engines were too heavy for automotive use, so they bought the Nissan diesels to catch the growing popularity of Diesels following the 74 oil shortage. For more information, the ultimate source is www.scoutconnection.com At 03:19 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
If you are talking about IH, no. Scouts only came with the NO or the turbo Nissan. This is not the engine used in the maxima At 12:01 PM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
The Maxima engine does, however, IIRC, bolt up anywhere the Nissan gasser six was used. Hint: diesel Z-car! On 10/23/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about IH, no. Scouts only came with the NO or the turbo Nissan. This is not the engine used in the maxima At 12:01 PM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
The Maxima engine does, however, IIRC, bolt up anywhere the Nissan gasser six was used. Hint: diesel Z-car! I guess that would be a 280ZXD, a 280ZDX or a 280DZX. That would be quite unique although a bit slower than the gasser with only 80HP to move it around. Better yet, drop a 603.96X in there and make it a 300DZX! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently without an MB diesel, but not dieselless 2003 Dodge CTD quad Cab, 23K miles, The TRUCK!
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I have a SD33T in my Nissan Patrol and no it would not fit into a sedan it is a tall engine. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay If you are talking about IH, no. Scouts only came with the NO or the turbo Nissan. This is not the engine used in the maxima At 12:01 PM 10/23/2005, you wrote: Didn't they also use the BMW turbodiesel at some point? Though the Nissan unit would be preferable, still a few of the old Maximas running around with rusty bodies, just waiting to be used engine donors ;-) Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have seen another example of this truck.The Nissan diesel WAS a factory option. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Don't believe that engine was originally installed, almost all of the Internationals I have seen either came with a 4, inline 6 or a small V8. There were no diesels 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:06:00 -0700 Subject: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay Heard of these but never seen one for sale before. Doesn't look bad for the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4582983178 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005
