Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Just print two halves and glue them together with plexus. Or put some
plexus in a mold and jam the key down into it. Or do the same thing with
epoxy with some milled glass fibers or similar. Done.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 6:52 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I believe that could be done.   That would be a good way to go with the
> carbon fiber filament. build a fixture onto the base plate that you
> could clamp the key in, then hit GO for program #2.
>   Program 2 would be just an inverse of program 1.
>
> > OK Don via Mercedes 
> > January 14, 2020 at 8:19 PM
> > Hmmm - could you program the printer to stop at the appropriate point for
> > you to put the metal key in place, then let the printer continue and make
> > the head all one piece, with the key encapsulated in it?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I believe that could be done.   That would be a good way to go with the 
carbon fiber filament. build a fixture onto the base plate that you 
could clamp the key in, then hit GO for program #2.

 Program 2 would be just an inverse of program 1.


OK Don via Mercedes 
January 14, 2020 at 8:19 PM
Hmmm - could you program the printer to stop at the appropriate point for
you to put the metal key in place, then let the printer continue and make
the head all one piece, with the key encapsulated in it?

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmmm - could you program the printer to stop at the appropriate point for
you to put the metal key in place, then let the printer continue and make
the head all one piece, with the key encapsulated in it?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
> I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
> track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
> answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
> change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
> key...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
> >
> > Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
> > printing. Look here:
> >
> >
> >
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
> >
> > Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a
> number
> > of different materials to print with, all of which have different
> > characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common
> material
> > is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You
> can
> > get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
> > along with all sorts of other stuff.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
> > of
> > > the key head and send them down to you for printing.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
> > accomplish
> > >> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone
> ordered
> > two
> > >> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
> > >> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
> > two
> > >> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
> > contacted
> > >> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
> > them
> > >> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
> > >>
> > >> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s
> dad
> > >> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
> > something
> > >> like that.
> > >>
> > >> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
> > Thingverse
> > >> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
> > >> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
> > them
> > >> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
> > >> Thingverse.
> > >>
> > >> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
> > >> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
> > printer
> > >> itself.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on
> the
> > >> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd
> be
> > >> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> > >>> -Curt
> > >>>
> > >>>   On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> > >> Mercedes  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta
> biz,
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
> >  Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >  January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
> >  I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a
> search
> >  on Thingverse came up negative...
> >  -Curt
> > 
> >  On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser <
> fmi...@gmail.com
> > >
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
> >  effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The base is heated. The default base for most printers is a plastic coated 
surface that’s sort of bumpy, for lack of a better description. I replaced mine 
with a sheet of glass for better adhesion. A quick spritz of “Aqua Net” makes 
things stick just fine.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 14/01/2020 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hair spray.
>> 
>> Nozzle temp too cool, or feed rate too high.
>> 
>> And yes, you have to make accommodations for the type of filament you’re 
>> using. It’s always good to get comfortable with a particular type of 
>> filament so you can understand how various changes in the printing process 
>> affect it. Once you’ve got this down it’s a lot easier to troubleshoot when 
>> you do move to a different material.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> I don't pay full attention since I don't have a 3D printer and do not think I 
> have enough use for one to venture into that area, but my recollection is 
> that they talk about heating a glass surface for the first layers to bond to.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/01/2020 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Hair spray.

Nozzle temp too cool, or feed rate too high.

And yes, you have to make accommodations for the type of filament you’re using. 
It’s always good to get comfortable with a particular type of filament so you 
can understand how various changes in the printing process affect it. Once 
you’ve got this down it’s a lot easier to troubleshoot when you do move to a 
different material.

-D


I don't pay full attention since I don't have a 3D printer and do not 
think I have enough use for one to venture into that area, but my 
recollection is that they talk about heating a glass surface for the 
first layers to bond to.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hair spray.

Nozzle temp too cool, or feed rate too high.

And yes, you have to make accommodations for the type of filament you’re using. 
It’s always good to get comfortable with a particular type of filament so you 
can understand how various changes in the printing process affect it. Once 
you’ve got this down it’s a lot easier to troubleshoot when you do move to a 
different material.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A lot of what I am seeing relates to basic things like getting the printed 
> item to stick to the base surface.
> Also, nozzles that plug up etc.
> Many variables for different sorts of filament.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 14/01/2020 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if you’re doing things on your own, 
>> that is, designing your own prints.
>> 
>> I found that by reading a lot of the notes with the files on Thingverse as 
>> well as researching my printer in various online forums that I’ve got an 
>> idea of how to print things consistently and that require a minimal amount 
>> of finish work. A lot depends on the design itself, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>  
>>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to 
 clean up or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, 
 turn the printer on and go. A lot depends on how fine a 
 line/resolution/layer you set up to print, which also affects print time 
 substantially. Default settings in most of the printing software is pretty 
 rough, and if you don’t tune it, you’ll spend a lot of time filing and 
 trimming the finished product because it’s so rough.
 
 -D
 
>>> I think there is quite a learning curve to make it work well too. I 
>>> subscribe to another list that has gravitated to 3D printing from the 
>>> original intent (metal working) and have read a lot of posts by people 
>>> trying to figure out how to make the printers work well enough to produce 
>>> useful parts or items.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

A lot of what I am seeing relates to basic things like getting the 
printed item to stick to the base surface.

Also, nozzles that plug up etc.
Many variables for different sorts of filament.

RB

On 14/01/2020 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if you’re doing things on your own, that 
is, designing your own prints.

I found that by reading a lot of the notes with the files on Thingverse as well 
as researching my printer in various online forums that I’ve got an idea of how 
to print things consistently and that require a minimal amount of finish work. 
A lot depends on the design itself, too.

-D

  

On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean up 
or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the printer 
on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set up to 
print, which also affects print time substantially. Default settings in most of 
the printing software is pretty rough, and if you don’t tune it, you’ll spend a 
lot of time filing and trimming the finished product because it’s so rough.

-D


I think there is quite a learning curve to make it work well too. I subscribe 
to another list that has gravitated to 3D printing from the original intent 
(metal working) and have read a lot of posts by people trying to figure out how 
to make the printers work well enough to produce useful parts or items.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Also - I use “Ultimaker Cura” as my file management/printing software. It’s 
open source and well supported. A lot of what I’ve gained as far as 
understanding how to make good prints came out of their support forums.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if you’re doing things on your own, 
> that is, designing your own prints.
> 
> I found that by reading a lot of the notes with the files on Thingverse as 
> well as researching my printer in various online forums that I’ve got an idea 
> of how to print things consistently and that require a minimal amount of 
> finish work. A lot depends on the design itself, too.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to 
>>> clean up or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, 
>>> turn the printer on and go. A lot depends on how fine a 
>>> line/resolution/layer you set up to print, which also affects print time 
>>> substantially. Default settings in most of the printing software is pretty 
>>> rough, and if you don’t tune it, you’ll spend a lot of time filing and 
>>> trimming the finished product because it’s so rough.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>> 
>> I think there is quite a learning curve to make it work well too. I 
>> subscribe to another list that has gravitated to 3D printing from the 
>> original intent (metal working) and have read a lot of posts by people 
>> trying to figure out how to make the printers work well enough to produce 
>> useful parts or items.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if you’re doing things on your own, that 
is, designing your own prints.

I found that by reading a lot of the notes with the files on Thingverse as well 
as researching my printer in various online forums that I’ve got an idea of how 
to print things consistently and that require a minimal amount of finish work. 
A lot depends on the design itself, too.

-D

 
> On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean 
>> up or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the 
>> printer on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set 
>> up to print, which also affects print time substantially. Default settings 
>> in most of the printing software is pretty rough, and if you don’t tune it, 
>> you’ll spend a lot of time filing and trimming the finished product because 
>> it’s so rough.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
> I think there is quite a learning curve to make it work well too. I subscribe 
> to another list that has gravitated to 3D printing from the original intent 
> (metal working) and have read a lot of posts by people trying to figure out 
> how to make the printers work well enough to produce useful parts or items.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean up 
or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the printer 
on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set up to 
print, which also affects print time substantially. Default settings in most of 
the printing software is pretty rough, and if you don’t tune it, you’ll spend a 
lot of time filing and trimming the finished product because it’s so rough.

-D



I think there is quite a learning curve to make it work well too. I 
subscribe to another list that has gravitated to 3D printing from the 
original intent (metal working) and have read a lot of posts by people 
trying to figure out how to make the printers work well enough to 
produce useful parts or items.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean up 
or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the printer 
on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set up to 
print, which also affects print time substantially. Default settings in most of 
the printing software is pretty rough, and if you don’t tune it, you’ll spend a 
lot of time filing and trimming the finished product because it’s so rough.

-D

 
> On Jan 14, 2020, at 11:22 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I had a print made of a Raspberry Pi case in the shape of an Atari 800. I 
> spent a ton of time filling the grooves from the print material and then 
> priming. Then I foolishly tried to help the primer dry faster with the heat 
> gun. The print sagged and is now the wrong shape. Its been sitting staring at 
> me for most of a year. I *think* I could massage it back into the right shape 
> but lost interest...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:57:59 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The 
> question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can 
> identify the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short 
> lengths that come in an assortment of colors.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
> > I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
> > track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
> > answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
> > change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
> > key...
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
> >> 
> >> Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
> >> printing. Look here:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
> >> of different materials to print with, all of which have different
> >> characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
> >> is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
> >> get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
> >> along with all sorts of other stuff.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
> >> of
> >>> the key head and send them down to you for printing.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
>  I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
> >> accomplish
>  on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered
> >> two
>  3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
>  thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
> >> two
>  3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
> >> contacted
>  the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
> >> them
>  as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
>  
>  He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
>  who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
> >> something
>  like that.
>  
>  You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
> >> Thingverse
>  or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
>  searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
> >> them
>  are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
>  Thingverse.
>  
>  I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
>  tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
> >> printer
>  itself.
>  
>  -D
>  
>  
> > On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> > I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
>  design side making it 

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I had a print made of a Raspberry Pi case in the shape of an Atari 800. I 
spent a ton of time filling the grooves from the print material and then 
priming. Then I foolishly tried to help the primer dry faster with the heat 
gun. The print sagged and is now the wrong shape. Its been sitting staring at 
me for most of a year. I *think* I could massage it back into the right shape 
but lost interest...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:57:59 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The 
question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can identify 
the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short lengths 
that come in an assortment of colors.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
> I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
> track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
> answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
> change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
> key...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
>> 
>> Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
>> printing. Look here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
>> 
>> Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
>> of different materials to print with, all of which have different
>> characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
>> is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
>> get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
>> along with all sorts of other stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
>> of
>>> the key head and send them down to you for printing.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
>> accomplish
 on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered
>> two
 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
 thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
>> two
 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
>> contacted
 the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
>> them
 as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
 
 He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
 who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
>> something
 like that.
 
 You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
>> Thingverse
 or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
 searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
>> them
 are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
 Thingverse.
 
 I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
 tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
>> printer
 itself.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
 design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
 inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> -Curt
> 
>  On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
 Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> 
 
>> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
>> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
>> on Thingverse came up negative...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
>> effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those are decent machines, I have been looking at them.  Wouldn't mind 
having one to make things


--FT

On 1/14/20 8:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think it’s an Ender 3 or something like that.


--
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[MG via Mercedes]

At the UF print lab where they will do printing 
for a reasonable cost they have a printer that 
uses a carbon fiber embedded plastic that they 
have used to produce motorcycle brake and clutch 
levers that are almost impossible to break.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The 
question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can identify 
the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short lengths 
that come in an assortment of colors.

-D



On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
key...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.

Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
printing. Look here:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11

Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
of different materials to print with, all of which have different
characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
along with all sorts of other stuff.

-D




On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves

of

the key head and send them down to you for printing.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to

accomplish

on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered

two

3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later

two

3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He

contacted

the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep

them

as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.

He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or

something

like that.

You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to

Thingverse

or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make

them

are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
Thingverse.

I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the

printer

itself.

-D



On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the

design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...

-Curt

 On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via

Mercedes  wrote:

here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,


https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722

Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
on Thingverse came up negative...
-Curt

On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I’ve looked at a couple. For now I’ve been able to get everything I’m 
interested in (so far) from Thingverse. It’s frighteningly HUGE as far as 3D 
files and subject matter. Don’t go looking there without some time on your 
hands.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max,  Dan,   there are several 3D modelling software apps that are free or 
> cheap.Most of them are easy to learn, and are used for gradeshcool or Jr 
> High kids.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM
>> Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The 
>> question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can 
>> identify the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short 
>> lengths that come in an assortment of colors.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Max,  Dan,   there are several 3D modelling software apps that are free 
or cheap.    Most of them are easy to learn, and are used for 
gradeshcool or Jr High kids.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM
Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or 
time. The question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? 
Once you can identify the right material, there are a number of 
offerings that have short lengths that come in an assortment of colors.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The 
question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can identify 
the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short lengths 
that come in an assortment of colors.

-D


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
> I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
> track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
> answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
> change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
> key...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
>> 
>> Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
>> printing. Look here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
>> 
>> Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
>> of different materials to print with, all of which have different
>> characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
>> is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
>> get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
>> along with all sorts of other stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
>> of
>>> the key head and send them down to you for printing.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
>> accomplish
 on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered
>> two
 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
 thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
>> two
 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
>> contacted
 the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
>> them
 as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
 
 He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
 who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
>> something
 like that.
 
 You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
>> Thingverse
 or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
 searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
>> them
 are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
 Thingverse.
 
 I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
 tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
>> printer
 itself.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
 design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
 inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> -Curt
> 
>  On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
 Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> 
 
>> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
>> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
>> on Thingverse came up negative...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
>> effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
key...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
>
> Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
> printing. Look here:
>
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
>
> Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
> of different materials to print with, all of which have different
> characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
> is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
> get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
> along with all sorts of other stuff.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
> of
> > the key head and send them down to you for printing.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
> accomplish
> >> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered
> two
> >> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
> >> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
> two
> >> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
> contacted
> >> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
> them
> >> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
> >>
> >> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
> >> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
> something
> >> like that.
> >>
> >> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
> Thingverse
> >> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
> >> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
> them
> >> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
> >> Thingverse.
> >>
> >> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
> >> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
> printer
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
> >> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
> >> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>   On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
>  Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
>  I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
>  on Thingverse came up negative...
>  -Curt
> 
>  On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  >
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
>  effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.

Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D 
printing. Look here:

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11

Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number of 
different materials to print with, all of which have different characteristics 
depending on what you’re printing. The most common material is PLA, but it’s 
probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can get filament that has 
real wood in it to look wood grained, for example, along with all sorts of 
other stuff.

-D



> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves of
> the key head and send them down to you for printing.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to accomplish
>> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered two
>> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
>> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later two
>> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He contacted
>> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep them
>> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
>> 
>> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
>> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or something
>> like that.
>> 
>> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to Thingverse
>> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
>> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make them
>> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
>> Thingverse.
>> 
>> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
>> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the printer
>> itself.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
>> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
>> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
>>> 
>> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
 I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
 on Thingverse came up negative...
 -Curt
 
 On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser 
 wrote:
 
 
 What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
 effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves of
the key head and send them down to you for printing.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to accomplish
> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered two
> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later two
> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He contacted
> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep them
> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
>
> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or something
> like that.
>
> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to Thingverse
> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make them
> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
> Thingverse.
>
> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the printer
> itself.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> >
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
> >> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
> >> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
> >> on Thingverse came up negative...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
> >> effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to accomplish on 
my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered two 3D 
printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he thought that 
was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later two 3D printers show 
up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He contacted the company and the 
credit card people, and both of them said to keep them as I suspect it wouldn’t 
have been worth it to ship them back.

He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad who is 
a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or something like that.

You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to Thingverse or 
any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start searching. 
The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make them are relatively 
cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on Thingverse.

I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to tinker 
with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the printer itself.

-D


> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the 
> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be 
> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
>> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search 
>> on Thingverse came up negative...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
>> effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the design 
side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be inconvenient 
too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
-Curt

On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search 
> on Thingverse came up negative...
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  
> wrote:
>
>
> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
> effective.

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722

Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search 
on Thingverse came up negative...

-Curt

On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  
wrote:



What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
effective.


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search on 
Thingverse came up negative...
-Curt

On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  
wrote:  
 
 > Curt wrote:

> I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering
> my poor woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere.

What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
effective.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

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> Curt wrote:

> I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering
> my poor woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere.

What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
effective.

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Mitch - yes, Wilton made one from wood, for his 300D, and that ignition 
cylinder is now in my long languishing cabriolet, and I have the key too. It is 
very nice, I simply don't have time to replicate it.

Maybe Floyd can set up his DIY CNC machine to cut a batch from wood?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 11, 2020 9:55:48 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :

> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
> > 
> > https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
> > 
> > Nice product, looks and feels good. We'll see how long it will hold up,
> > undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
> > there.
> > 
> > 
> 
> For $30-40, I'd take the time to make one out of Walnut (didn't Wilton do 
> this?)
> or carbon fiber cloth. I think the carbon weave would be an interesting
> variation on the texture of the original. Maybe reinforce the original with
> carbon and epoxy (probably UV resistant epoxy) and vacuum bag it?
> The issue with carbon would be not having any loose ends sticking through the
> epoxy, carbon slivers are no fun.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I have run one of those aluminum key heads on a 123 key for a year or two
and aside from the black color wearing off the corners it is as good as the
day I put it on. I agree the price is steep. I was going to have a
machinist friend do a run in part because my mechanic always comments on
how nice it is. The mechanic is an older german guy who does a lot of high
dollar 50s 300sl etc cars and is not easily impressed.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 9:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering my poor
> woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere.
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
> >
> > https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
> >
> > Nice product, looks and feels good.  We'll see how long it will hold up,
> > undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are
> out
> > there.
> >
>
> For $30-40, I'd take the time to make one out of Walnut (didn't Wilton do
> this?)
> or carbon fiber cloth. I think the carbon weave would be an interesting
> variation on the texture of the original. Maybe reinforce the original
> with
> carbon and epoxy (probably UV resistant epoxy) and vacuum bag it?
> The issue with carbon would be not having any loose ends sticking through
> the
> epoxy, carbon slivers are no fun.
>
> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering my poor 
woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere.

Curt

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  On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:55 PM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
> 
> https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
> 
> Nice product, looks and feels good.  We'll see how long it will hold up,
> undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
> there.
> 

For $30-40, I'd take the time to make one out of Walnut (didn't Wilton do this?)
or carbon fiber cloth. I think the carbon weave would be an interesting 
variation on the texture of the original. Maybe reinforce the original with 
carbon and epoxy (probably UV resistant epoxy) and vacuum bag it?
The issue with carbon would be not having any loose ends sticking through the 
epoxy, carbon slivers are no fun.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:

https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/

Nice product, looks and feels good.  We'll see how long it will hold up,
undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
there.



For $30-40, I'd take the time to make one out of Walnut (didn't Wilton do this?)
or carbon fiber cloth. I think the carbon weave would be an interesting 
variation on the texture of the original. Maybe reinforce the original with 
carbon and epoxy (probably UV resistant epoxy) and vacuum bag it?
The issue with carbon would be not having any loose ends sticking through the 
epoxy, carbon slivers are no fun.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I guess I could see that.

Agreed. They’re a bit pricey, I thought, but the one I saw a few years ago was 
very nice.

-D


> On Jan 11, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the most possible scenario would be your right hand or arm striking 
> that area, and yes that would be a minor concern in such a collision. Point 
> is, other than the price, there is much to like about it, not much to quibble 
> about.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jan 11, 2020 3:19:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
> 
>> If you’re worried about getting gouged in a collision from the ignition key 
>> you’ve got far more issues to be concerned about, I would think. I’m not 
>> sure how you could hit or contact the ignition in an impact in a W124. 
>> Wouldn’t it be “behind” the steering wheel?
>> 
>> I’ve seen those key heads. They look nice.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
>>> 
>>> https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
>>> 
>>> Nice product, looks and feels good. We'll see how long it will hold up,
>>> undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Only downside is that these aluminum heads probably will gouge human flesh
>>> in the event of a collision.
>>> -
>>> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

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I think the most possible scenario would be your right hand or arm striking 
that area, and yes that would be a minor concern in such a collision. Point is, 
other than the price, there is much to like about it, not much to quibble about.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 11, 2020 3:19:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> If you’re worried about getting gouged in a collision from the ignition key 
> you’ve got far more issues to be concerned about, I would think. I’m not sure 
> how you could hit or contact the ignition in an impact in a W124. Wouldn’t it 
> be “behind” the steering wheel?
> 
> I’ve seen those key heads. They look nice.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
> > 
> > https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
> > 
> > Nice product, looks and feels good. We'll see how long it will hold up,
> > undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
> > there.
> > 
> > Only downside is that these aluminum heads probably will gouge human flesh
> > in the event of a collision.
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you’re worried about getting gouged in a collision from the ignition key 
you’ve got far more issues to be concerned about, I would think. I’m not sure 
how you could hit or contact the ignition in an impact in a W124. Wouldn’t it 
be “behind” the steering wheel?

I’ve seen those key heads. They look nice.

-D


> On Jan 11, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:
> 
> https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/
> 
> Nice product, looks and feels good.  We'll see how long it will hold up,
> undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
> there.
> 
> Only downside is that these aluminum heads probably will gouge human flesh
> in the event of a collision.
> -
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