Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 14, 2018 at 10:33 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> The tire, coming apart, trashed the sheet metal behind that wheel.

Delaminating tires do even more damage to camping trailers and motorhomes. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I had a tire come apart on me on the truck.  I went back and picked up most
of the pieces I could find, as a courtesy.  The spare was _very_ important
that day.
The tire, coming apart, trashed the sheet metal behind that wheel.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

everone in the construction trades seems to think it is their duty to 
spread drywall screws and all manner of iron on the  roadways.  I have 
something in one of my new $90 nokias now.


clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Road hazards are what gets me.  Construction zones, pokey things dropped off 
trucks or cars, pot holes large enough to hide lost toddlers



clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately&  well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Road hazards are what gets me.  Construction zones, pokey things dropped off 
trucks or cars, pot holes large enough to hide lost toddlers



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On May 13, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Back in the day, flat tires were a common and normal part of driving.  I 
> recall several times changing tires in the pouring rain, at night of course.  
> Tires are so much better now!  Or maybe I can just afford better ones now.  
> Except in construction zones, I haven't had a flat in decades/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Back in the day, flat tires were a common and normal part of driving.  I recall 
several times changing tires in the pouring rain, at night of course.  Tires 
are so much better now!  Or maybe I can just afford better ones now.  Except in 
construction zones, I haven't had a flat in decades/


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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

they came with my cars, except the 66 200D.   My 81 even has a genuine 
yourpeen kit that was delivered in a USA car by mistake.  Of course the 
contents have been 'Merkanized and updated.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Add a comprehensive first aid kit to the things you carry... Just a
suggestion.





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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 13 May 2018 11:25:40 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > Grant wrote:
> 
> > Add a comprehensive first aid kit to the things you carry...
> 
> The list of what I carry is a lot longer - but I really should
> expand my 1st aid kit.

Would you please post to the List the list of what you carry? (Or is it
available on your website -- the location of which I don't remember at
the moment.)


Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The touareg had the collapsible spare and an air pump. Seemed like a good
compromise.

Land Rovers apparently get better mileage with the spare on the hood. So
perhaps that is a model to follow in this weight-and/or-fuel-saving age.

On Sun, May 13, 2018, 9:30 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> > > > driving.
>
> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
> > people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.
>
> > tyee165 wrote:
>
> > How often have you tried to help someone who had a spare with
> > very little air in it? Do you carry a pump?
>
> In all of those stop, not once has it been a spare with too little
> air pressure to drive on.
>
> My electric pump died, so I would have to use the hand pump.  It
> still work though it is a LOT older than the 12V one was.
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> > > driving. 

> fmiser wrote:
> 
> I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
> people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.

> tyee165 wrote:

> How often have you tried to help someone who had a spare with
> very little air in it? Do you carry a pump?

In all of those stop, not once has it been a spare with too little
air pressure to drive on.

My electric pump died, so I would have to use the hand pump.  It
still work though it is a LOT older than the 12V one was.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Curt wrote:
> >
> > > I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> > > driving.

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > How often have you used your insurance policy?

> > I may not live quite so far "out there" as Grant - but it's far
> > enough out that cell service isn't certain and it's a looong
> > walk.
> >
> > I will always have 1 (or more) spare tires for the same reason
> > I always carry car parts and car tools.

> Grant wrote:

> Add a comprehensive first aid kit to the things you carry...

The list of what I carry is a lot longer - but I really should
expand my 1st aid kit.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

How often have you tried to help someone who had a spare with very little air 
in it? Do you carry a pump?


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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-05-13  12:12 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spare 
tires 
> Curt wrote:

> I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> driving. 

How often have you used your insurance policy?  

I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.
Most had spares.  30 minute max and they are on their way.  Those
without...  I carry lots of extra stuff with me, but not spare
tires for other cars!

A flat tire is an annoyance when there is a spare - but a real
predicament if there isn't one.

I may not live quite so far "out there" as Grant - but it's far
enough out that cell service isn't certain and it's a looong walk.

I will always have 1 (or more) spare tires for the same reason I
always carry car parts and car tools.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Add a comprehensive first aid kit to the things you carry... Just a
suggestion.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

> > Curt wrote:
>
> > I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> > driving.
>
> How often have you used your insurance policy?
>
> I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
> people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.
> Most had spares.  30 minute max and they are on their way.  Those
> without...  I carry lots of extra stuff with me, but not spare
> tires for other cars!
>
> A flat tire is an annoyance when there is a spare - but a real
> predicament if there isn't one.
>
> I may not live quite so far "out there" as Grant - but it's far
> enough out that cell service isn't certain and it's a looong walk.
>
> I will always have 1 (or more) spare tires for the same reason I
> always carry car parts and car tools.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> driving. 

How often have you used your insurance policy?  

I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.
Most had spares.  30 minute max and they are on their way.  Those
without...  I carry lots of extra stuff with me, but not spare
tires for other cars!

A flat tire is an annoyance when there is a spare - but a real
predicament if there isn't one.

I may not live quite so far "out there" as Grant - but it's far
enough out that cell service isn't certain and it's a looong walk.

I will always have 1 (or more) spare tires for the same reason I
always carry car parts and car tools.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of
> driving. 

How often have you used your insurance policy?  

I run out of fingers and toes if I try to count the number of
people I have helped on the side of the road with a flat tire.
Most had spares.  30 minute max and they are on their way.  Those
without...  I carry lots of extra stuff with me, but not spare
tires for other cars!

A flat tire is an annoyance when there is a spare - but a real
predicament if there isn't one.

I may not live quite so far "out there" as Grant - but it's far
enough out that cell service isn't certain and it's a looong walk.

I will always have 1 (or more) spare tires for the same reason I
always carry car parts, car tools, food, extra clothes, rope, water
filter, etc.  

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I have actually used my spares on many many occasions.  The only time I needed 
AAA, was when I found that I did not have the proper lug wrench in the car.  
Somehow a 19mm got into the roll.

I do see a few pristine spares living in the trunk at PnP every so often.  It 
is rare enough, that I keep reminding myself that it would take a very long 
time for me to find a full set worth.  Thus, the pristine spares remain at PnP. 
 I do not understand why the prep boys do not remove these things when they 
decide to save the road worn rims for retail.  I would purchase five wheels 
instead of only four, given the opportunity.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On May 12, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of driving. In 
> most of those cases a small electric pump would have done the job. In cases 
> where I was driving a pickup a pump would have been less labor.
> At least 2 of the cases I've put on a spare it was to go save Angie ;)
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:59 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:   Correct Global Warming scientist have determined all these cars 
> will
> use .12 gallons of fuel less over their 5 year life span and save
> the planet with the weight reduction of not carrying a spare.
> 
> AAA fully endorses the move as do it's new members who now must carry a
> current AAA card in case they damage a tire. Uber and Lyft are in
> competition for ad space stickers to fit where a spare used to be kept.
> 
> Sarcasm folks I'm sure it must be progress.
> 
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> According to AAA, you can't buy a 2017 model of any of these with a
>> factory installed spare tire, not standard and not optional either:
>> 
>> Acura NSX
>> Audi R8
>> Audi TT
>> BMW 2 Series
>> BMW 3 Series
>> BMW 4 Series
>> BMW 6 Series
>> BMW i3
>> BMW i8
>> BMW X3
>> BMW X4
>> Cadillac ATS
>> Cadillac CTS
>> Chevrolet Bolt EV
>> Chevrolet Camaro
>> Chevrolet Corvette
>> Chevrolet SS
>> Chevrolet Volt
>> Dodge Viper
>> Fiat 500
>> Fiat 500L
>> Fiat 500X
>> Ford C-Max
>> Hyundai Accent
>> Hyundai Ioniq
>> Infiniti QX30
>> Jaguar F-Type
>> Jeep Cherokee
>> Jeep Compass
>> Jeep Renegade
>> Kia Forte
>> Kia Niro
>> Kia Rio
>> Kia Soul
>> Mazda MX-5 Miata
>> Mercedes-Benz B-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz C-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz E-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz S-Class
>> Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
>> Mini Cooper Countryman
>> Mitsubishi i-MiEV
>> Nissan GT-R
>> Nissan Leaf
>> Porsche 718 Cayman
>> Porsche 911 Carrera
>> Porsche Panamera
>> Smart ForTwo
>> Tesla Model S
>> Tesla Model X
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'll keep my 123 and 124 dissels.  Thanks anyway.

BTW, the 2 hyundi models listed are complete $ hit hole "cars."

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Correct Global Warming scientist have determined all these cars will
use .12 gallons of fuel less over their 5 year life span and save
the planet with the weight reduction of not carrying a spare.

AAA fully endorses the move as do it's new members who now must carry a
current AAA card in case they damage a tire. Uber and Lyft are in
competition for ad space stickers to fit where a spare used to be kept.

Sarcasm folks I'm sure it must be progress.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes<
mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:


According to AAA, you can't buy a 2017 model of any of these with a
factory installed spare tire, not standard and not optional either:

 Acura NSX
 Audi R8
 Audi TT
 BMW 2 Series
 BMW 3 Series
 BMW 4 Series
 BMW 6 Series
 BMW i3
 BMW i8
 BMW X3
 BMW X4
 Cadillac ATS
 Cadillac CTS
 Chevrolet Bolt EV
 Chevrolet Camaro
 Chevrolet Corvette
 Chevrolet SS
 Chevrolet Volt
 Dodge Viper
 Fiat 500
 Fiat 500L
 Fiat 500X
 Ford C-Max
 Hyundai Accent
 Hyundai Ioniq
 Infiniti QX30
 Jaguar F-Type
 Jeep Cherokee
 Jeep Compass
 Jeep Renegade
 Kia Forte
 Kia Niro
 Kia Rio
 Kia Soul
 Mazda MX-5 Miata
 Mercedes-Benz B-Class
 Mercedes-Benz C-Class
 Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class
 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
 Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class
 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
 Mini Cooper Countryman
 Mitsubishi i-MiEV
 Nissan GT-R
 Nissan Leaf
 Porsche 718 Cayman
 Porsche 911 Carrera
 Porsche Panamera
 Smart ForTwo
 Tesla Model S
 Tesla Model X

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It seems like the cell phone has replaced the spare tire like the quik lube has 
replaced the drain pan. 

I just thought it odd that KIA, Hyundai, and Mercedes seemed to have eliminated 
the spares from pretty much their entire line-ups. 

Now that I think about it, the Korean cars are supposed to be cheap, and maybe 
MBZ is supposed to be owned by people who pay others to fix their tires for 
them? Even so, I'd rather pay to have my spare installed than to pay to have it 
put on a flatbed and ride to the tire store in a filthy wrecker cab. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I think I've used the spare maybe 4 or 5 times in 25 years of driving. In most 
of those cases a small electric pump would have done the job. In cases where I 
was driving a pickup a pump would have been less labor.
At least 2 of the cases I've put on a spare it was to go save Angie ;)

Curt

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  On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:59 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:   Correct Global Warming scientist have determined all these cars 
will
use .12 gallons of fuel less over their 5 year life span and save
the planet with the weight reduction of not carrying a spare.

AAA fully endorses the move as do it's new members who now must carry a
current AAA card in case they damage a tire. Uber and Lyft are in
competition for ad space stickers to fit where a spare used to be kept.

Sarcasm folks I'm sure it must be progress.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> According to AAA, you can't buy a 2017 model of any of these with a
> factory installed spare tire, not standard and not optional either:
>
>    Acura NSX
>    Audi R8
>    Audi TT
>    BMW 2 Series
>    BMW 3 Series
>    BMW 4 Series
>    BMW 6 Series
>    BMW i3
>    BMW i8
>    BMW X3
>    BMW X4
>    Cadillac ATS
>    Cadillac CTS
>    Chevrolet Bolt EV
>    Chevrolet Camaro
>    Chevrolet Corvette
>    Chevrolet SS
>    Chevrolet Volt
>    Dodge Viper
>    Fiat 500
>    Fiat 500L
>    Fiat 500X
>    Ford C-Max
>    Hyundai Accent
>    Hyundai Ioniq
>    Infiniti QX30
>    Jaguar F-Type
>    Jeep Cherokee
>    Jeep Compass
>    Jeep Renegade
>    Kia Forte
>    Kia Niro
>    Kia Rio
>    Kia Soul
>    Mazda MX-5 Miata
>    Mercedes-Benz B-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz C-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz E-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz S-Class
>    Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
>    Mini Cooper Countryman
>    Mitsubishi i-MiEV
>    Nissan GT-R
>    Nissan Leaf
>    Porsche 718 Cayman
>    Porsche 911 Carrera
>    Porsche Panamera
>    Smart ForTwo
>    Tesla Model S
>    Tesla Model X
>
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Re: [MBZ] Spare tires

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Correct Global Warming scientist have determined all these cars will
use .12 gallons of fuel less over their 5 year life span and save
the planet with the weight reduction of not carrying a spare.

AAA fully endorses the move as do it's new members who now must carry a
current AAA card in case they damage a tire. Uber and Lyft are in
competition for ad space stickers to fit where a spare used to be kept.

Sarcasm folks I'm sure it must be progress.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> According to AAA, you can't buy a 2017 model of any of these with a
> factory installed spare tire, not standard and not optional either:
>
> Acura NSX
> Audi R8
> Audi TT
> BMW 2 Series
> BMW 3 Series
> BMW 4 Series
> BMW 6 Series
> BMW i3
> BMW i8
> BMW X3
> BMW X4
> Cadillac ATS
> Cadillac CTS
> Chevrolet Bolt EV
> Chevrolet Camaro
> Chevrolet Corvette
> Chevrolet SS
> Chevrolet Volt
> Dodge Viper
> Fiat 500
> Fiat 500L
> Fiat 500X
> Ford C-Max
> Hyundai Accent
> Hyundai Ioniq
> Infiniti QX30
> Jaguar F-Type
> Jeep Cherokee
> Jeep Compass
> Jeep Renegade
> Kia Forte
> Kia Niro
> Kia Rio
> Kia Soul
> Mazda MX-5 Miata
> Mercedes-Benz B-Class
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