Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Get Together

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I'm disappointed. I thought he was going to drive one of his rigs on the trip. 
Gerry

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:36:17 -0400
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> On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:46:56 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Being the $500 diesel back to OK with you
> 
> I think you mean, "BRING the $500 diesel back to OK with you"
> 
> Sorry, can't do; we left it on John's Island.
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] Craig in NC

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Craig, please call me.

Wilton

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:46:56 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:


Being the $500 diesel back to OK with you


I think you mean, "BRING the $500 diesel back to OK with you"

Sorry, can't do; we left it on John's Island.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Get Together

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Darn

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> On Jun 6, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:46:56 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Being the $500 diesel back to OK with you
> 
> I think you mean, "BRING the $500 diesel back to OK with you"
> 
> Sorry, can't do; we left it on John's Island.
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I am going to mix some model airplane diesel fuel. The mix is approximately 50% 
kerosene, 20% castor/syn oil and 30% ether. I have been told I can’t order 
liquid ether. 
  I am going to try and use starting fluid by gassing off the propellant by 
turning the can upside down then retrieving the ether by puncturing can and 
draining it out into a measuring container. Does anyone know a better way to 
get this product?
Any thoughts?

Thanks 
Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Any chemical suppliers around your neck of the woods?  Know any chem teachers?

--R
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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I am going to mix some model airplane diesel fuel. The mix is approximately 
> 50% kerosene, 20% castor/syn oil and 30% ether. I have been told I can’t 
> order liquid ether. 
>  I am going to try and use starting fluid by gassing off the propellant by 
> turning the can upside down then retrieving the ether by puncturing can and 
> draining it out into a measuring container. Does anyone know a better way to 
> get this product?
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks 
> Mike
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Mountain Man wrote: 

"That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are people 
to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more than what the 
city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is possible? - or is this a 
mere city slicker dream?" 

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the way 
rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other than 
Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you won't 
see much other than farms.  

Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large state in 
terms of geographical size.  The urban (or semi urban) areas are located on the 
coast, around Jackson, and to a lesser extent: Hattiesburg and the college 
towns of Oxford and Starkville.   Oxford is a Beautiful town.  It is home to 
"Ole Miss."   Because it is a college town, it is probably one of the more 
liberal areas in the whole state.  Of course, "liberal" in Mississippi is much 
different than Liberal in Illinois or Massachusetts.  

The least populated county in the state is Issaquena County.  It is far west 
and central.  It is notable because it had the highest concentration of slaves 
(before the Civil War) of any County in the Country. 40+% of the county is in 
poverty and the county has the highest unemployment in the state. 

Hinds and Jackson Counties are the most populous. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have 
ever lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta 
secondary to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you 
aren't like me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, 
you're a different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone 
disliked<->hated (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least 
those who were more than one generation in the area.  Being very 
stereotypical here, but I found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and 
anyone else of a darker shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians 
hated one another, Catholics, Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I 
had a Haitian neighbor who was really black, who viscerally hated the 
"American" blacks who lived up the street from us and would go off on 
them sounding like an old klucker, it was pretty bad but was also 
somewhat curious and mystifying but I realized it came down to cultural 
values not color so much.


It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other 
group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones 
above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta 
cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and 
Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked 
down on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully 
"integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends 
but it took a coupla decades.


Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is 
still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly 
racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger part 
of the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while 
both sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues 
(slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family 
experiences as this stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  
The disliked<->hated aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in 
"liberal" Massachusetts which I find kinda strange.


All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves into 
cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or 
whatever, and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or 
attitude, in some cases established generations ago, and it gets 
reinforced and accepted as "normal."  I just read a book called 
Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very clearly how the Eastern Kentucky 
culture continued through a diaspora in the 50s (or earlier) to what is 
now the Rust Belt, and is still quite apparent today.  So there are 
these subsets of cultural behaviors even among the white population that 
I find quite off-putting and they don't really involve any racial aspects.


Musings...

--R


On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Mountain Man wrote:

"That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are people to 
be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more than what the city stifles us to be.  
Does anyone know if this is possible? - or is this a mere city slicker dream?"

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the way 
rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other than 
Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you won't 
see much other than farms.

Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large state in terms of geographical 
size.  The urban (or semi urban) areas are located on the coast, around Jackson, and to a lesser 
extent: Hattiesburg and the college towns of Oxford and Starkville.   Oxford is a Beautiful town.  
It is home to "Ole Miss."   Because it is a college town, it is probably one of the more 
liberal areas in the whole state.  Of course, "liberal" in Mississippi is much different 
than Liberal in Illinois or Massachusetts.

The least populated county in the state is Issaquena County.  It is far west 
and central.  It is notable because it had the highest concentration of slaves 
(before the Civil War) of any County in the Country. 40+% of the county is in 
poverty and the county has the highest unemployment in the state.

Hinds and Jackson Counties are the most populous.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm not going to cast aspersions but that has NOT been my experience
visiting the Boston area on numerous occasions over the past 5 years.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have ever
> lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta secondary
> to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you aren't like
> me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, you're a
> different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone disliked<->hated
> (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least those who were more
> than one generation in the area.  Being very stereotypical here, but I
> found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and anyone else of a darker
> shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians hated one another, Catholics,
> Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I had a Haitian neighbor who was
> really black, who viscerally hated the "American" blacks who lived up the
> street from us and would go off on them sounding like an old klucker, it
> was pretty bad but was also somewhat curious and mystifying but I realized
> it came down to cultural values not color so much.
>
> It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other
> group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones
> above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta
> cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and
> Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked down
> on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully
> "integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends but
> it took a coupla decades.
>
> Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is
> still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly
> racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger part of
> the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while both
> sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues (slavery, Jim
> Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family experiences as this
> stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  The disliked<->hated
> aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in "liberal" Massachusetts which
> I find kinda strange.
>
> All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves into
> cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or whatever,
> and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or attitude, in some
> cases established generations ago, and it gets reinforced and accepted as
> "normal."  I just read a book called Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very
> clearly how the Eastern Kentucky culture continued through a diaspora in
> the 50s (or earlier) to what is now the Rust Belt, and is still quite
> apparent today.  So there are these subsets of cultural behaviors even
> among the white population that I find quite off-putting and they don't
> really involve any racial aspects.
>
> Musings...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Mountain Man wrote:
>>
>> "That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are
>> people to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more than
>> what the city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is possible? - or
>> is this a mere city slicker dream?"
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the
>> way rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other than
>> Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you
>> won't see much other than farms.
>>
>> Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large
>> state in terms of geographical size.  The urban (or semi urban) areas are
>> located on the coast, around Jackson, and to a lesser extent: Hattiesburg
>> and the college towns of Oxford and Starkville.   Oxford is a Beautiful
>> town.  It is home to "Ole Miss."   Because it is a college town, it is
>> probably one of the more liberal areas in the whole state.  Of course,
>> "liberal" in Mississippi is much different than Liberal in Illinois or
>> Massachusetts.
>>
>> The least populated county in the state is Issaquena County.  It is far
>> west and central.  It is notable because it had the highest concentration
>> of slaves (before the Civil War) of any County in the Country. 40+% of the
>> county is in poverty and the county has the highest unemployment in the
>> state.
>>
>> Hinds and Jackson Counties are the most populous.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Maybe my son could contact his chemistry teacher. 
Thanks,
Mike

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any chemical suppliers around your neck of the woods?  Know any chem teachers?
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am going to mix some model airplane diesel fuel. The mix is approximately 
>> 50% kerosene, 20% castor/syn oil and 30% ether. I have been told I can’t 
>> order liquid ether. 
>> I am going to try and use starting fluid by gassing off the propellant by 
>> turning the can upside down then retrieving the ether by puncturing can and 
>> draining it out into a measuring container. Does anyone know a better way to 
>> get this product?
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I think things have changed a lot since  Floyd lived there. I have worked
there the past
16 years.  Certainly the Louise Hicks anti-busing days were very nasty.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jun 7, 2018 11:38 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm not going to cast aspersions but that has NOT been my experience
> visiting the Boston area on numerous occasions over the past 5 years.
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have ever
> > lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta secondary
> > to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you aren't like
> > me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, you're a
> > different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone disliked<->hated
> > (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least those who were more
> > than one generation in the area.  Being very stereotypical here, but I
> > found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and anyone else of a darker
> > shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians hated one another,
> Catholics,
> > Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I had a Haitian neighbor who was
> > really black, who viscerally hated the "American" blacks who lived up the
> > street from us and would go off on them sounding like an old klucker, it
> > was pretty bad but was also somewhat curious and mystifying but I
> realized
> > it came down to cultural values not color so much.
> >
> > It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other
> > group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones
> > above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta
> > cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and
> > Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked
> down
> > on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully
> > "integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends
> but
> > it took a coupla decades.
> >
> > Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is
> > still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly
> > racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger part
> of
> > the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while
> both
> > sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues (slavery,
> Jim
> > Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family experiences as
> this
> > stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  The disliked<->hated
> > aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in "liberal" Massachusetts
> which
> > I find kinda strange.
> >
> > All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves into
> > cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or
> whatever,
> > and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or attitude, in
> some
> > cases established generations ago, and it gets reinforced and accepted as
> > "normal."  I just read a book called Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very
> > clearly how the Eastern Kentucky culture continued through a diaspora in
> > the 50s (or earlier) to what is now the Rust Belt, and is still quite
> > apparent today.  So there are these subsets of cultural behaviors even
> > among the white population that I find quite off-putting and they don't
> > really involve any racial aspects.
> >
> > Musings...
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Mountain Man wrote:
> >>
> >> "That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are
> >> people to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more
> than
> >> what the city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is possible?
> - or
> >> is this a mere city slicker dream?"
> >>
> >> I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the
> >> way rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other
> than
> >> Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you
> >> won't see much other than farms.
> >>
> >> Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large
> >> state in terms of geographical size.  The urban (or semi urban) areas
> are
> >> located on the coast, around Jackson, and to a lesser extent:
> Hattiesburg
> >> and the college towns of Oxford and Starkville.   Oxford is a Beautiful
> >> town.  It is home to "Ole Miss."   Because it is a college town, it is
> >> probably one of the more liberal areas in the whole state.  Of course,
> >> "liberal" in Mississippi is much different than Liberal in Illinois or
> >> Massachusetts.
> >>
> >> The least populated county in the state is Issaquena County.  It is far
> >> west and central.  It is notable because it had the highest
> concentration
> >> of slaves (before the Civil War)

Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes they were. I hope things have improved. It has been 19 years since I lived 
there so I guess that provides a blip in the long history of the area. 

I recall a drive through Mississippi years ago seeing a beat up old pickup 
driven by what could only be described as a PhD nuclear physicist, or maybe a 
theoretical cosmologist, sporting a window sticker saying “if I had known, I’d 
have picked my own damn cotton “. I’m guessing he was not yet entirely 
reconstructed. 

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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think things have changed a lot since  Floyd lived there. I have worked
> there the past
> 16 years.  Certainly the Louise Hicks anti-busing days were very nasty.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Jun 7, 2018 11:38 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not going to cast aspersions but that has NOT been my experience
>> visiting the Boston area on numerous occasions over the past 5 years.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have ever
>>> lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta secondary
>>> to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you aren't like
>>> me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, you're a
>>> different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone disliked<->hated
>>> (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least those who were more
>>> than one generation in the area.  Being very stereotypical here, but I
>>> found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and anyone else of a darker
>>> shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians hated one another,
>> Catholics,
>>> Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I had a Haitian neighbor who was
>>> really black, who viscerally hated the "American" blacks who lived up the
>>> street from us and would go off on them sounding like an old klucker, it
>>> was pretty bad but was also somewhat curious and mystifying but I
>> realized
>>> it came down to cultural values not color so much.
>>> 
>>> It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other
>>> group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones
>>> above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta
>>> cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and
>>> Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked
>> down
>>> on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully
>>> "integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends
>> but
>>> it took a coupla decades.
>>> 
>>> Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is
>>> still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly
>>> racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger part
>> of
>>> the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while
>> both
>>> sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues (slavery,
>> Jim
>>> Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family experiences as
>> this
>>> stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  The disliked<->hated
>>> aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in "liberal" Massachusetts
>> which
>>> I find kinda strange.
>>> 
>>> All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves into
>>> cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or
>> whatever,
>>> and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or attitude, in
>> some
>>> cases established generations ago, and it gets reinforced and accepted as
>>> "normal."  I just read a book called Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very
>>> clearly how the Eastern Kentucky culture continued through a diaspora in
>>> the 50s (or earlier) to what is now the Rust Belt, and is still quite
>>> apparent today.  So there are these subsets of cultural behaviors even
>>> among the white population that I find quite off-putting and they don't
>>> really involve any racial aspects.
>>> 
>>> Musings...
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Mountain Man wrote:
 
 "That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are
 people to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more
>> than
 what the city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is possible?
>> - or
 is this a mere city slicker dream?"
 
 I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the
 way rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other
>> than
 Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you
 won't see much other than farms.
 
 Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large
 state in terms of geographical size.  The urban (or semi 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What I think still exists is the Old Yankee upper class/crust, which of
course is WHITE, Protestant   & Anglo. And then there is HAHVAHD.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jun 7, 2018 12:10 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes they were. I hope things have improved. It has been 19 years since I
> lived there so I guess that provides a blip in the long history of the
> area.
>
> I recall a drive through Mississippi years ago seeing a beat up old pickup
> driven by what could only be described as a PhD nuclear physicist, or maybe
> a theoretical cosmologist, sporting a window sticker saying “if I had
> known, I’d have picked my own damn cotton “. I’m guessing he was not yet
> entirely reconstructed.
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think things have changed a lot since  Floyd lived there. I have worked
> > there the past
> > 16 years.  Certainly the Louise Hicks anti-busing days were very nasty.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Jun 7, 2018 11:38 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not going to cast aspersions but that has NOT been my experience
> >> visiting the Boston area on numerous occasions over the past 5 years.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have
> ever
> >>> lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta
> secondary
> >>> to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you aren't
> like
> >>> me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, you're a
> >>> different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone disliked<->hated
> >>> (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least those who were
> more
> >>> than one generation in the area.  Being very stereotypical here, but I
> >>> found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and anyone else of a darker
> >>> shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians hated one another,
> >> Catholics,
> >>> Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I had a Haitian neighbor who was
> >>> really black, who viscerally hated the "American" blacks who lived up
> the
> >>> street from us and would go off on them sounding like an old klucker,
> it
> >>> was pretty bad but was also somewhat curious and mystifying but I
> >> realized
> >>> it came down to cultural values not color so much.
> >>>
> >>> It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other
> >>> group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones
> >>> above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta
> >>> cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and
> >>> Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked
> >> down
> >>> on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully
> >>> "integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends
> >> but
> >>> it took a coupla decades.
> >>>
> >>> Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is
> >>> still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly
> >>> racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger
> part
> >> of
> >>> the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while
> >> both
> >>> sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues (slavery,
> >> Jim
> >>> Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family experiences as
> >> this
> >>> stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  The disliked<->hated
> >>> aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in "liberal" Massachusetts
> >> which
> >>> I find kinda strange.
> >>>
> >>> All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves
> into
> >>> cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or
> >> whatever,
> >>> and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or attitude, in
> >> some
> >>> cases established generations ago, and it gets reinforced and accepted
> as
> >>> "normal."  I just read a book called Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very
> >>> clearly how the Eastern Kentucky culture continued through a diaspora
> in
> >>> the 50s (or earlier) to what is now the Rust Belt, and is still quite
> >>> apparent today.  So there are these subsets of cultural behaviors even
> >>> among the white population that I find quite off-putting and they don't
> >>> really involve any racial aspects.
> >>>
> >>> Musings...
> >>>
> >>> --R
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>  Mountain Man wrote:
> 
>  "That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that
> are
>  people to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more
> >> than
>  what the city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is pos

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> Musings...

WOW - a summary treatise for a tome about culture in america.
The story that set my interest to MS years ago featured the MS river
edge where it was too thick/impassable to traverse to the river until
a utility company carved the path.  Culture seemed to be mentioned in
the story so it seemed attractive.  i.e. real people, no mention of a
disliked<->hated aspect, but this was from liberal main stream media
NPR that shall not mention disliked<->hated aspects.  --R thanks for
your musings which are probably real anywhere.  For me, the city/burbs
is more expensive than gov't retirement takings are paying out and no
savings so my scramble needs to happen.  It seems to be said that
rent/food expenses should not exceed 60% of resources?  Yeah, that
never happened so savings was not but there were years that easy
seemed to happen for a few years so... I'm thankful.  We made it with
tons of memory to make life.  Life still continues so a different
scene needs to happen so maybe the 60% plateau can be approached.

Snook - Issaquena County sounds interesting unless the
disliked<->hated aspect becomes like Deliverance=ugghh.  To get to 60%
of resources, perhaps the combination of rural and poverty can be
approached by city slicker with low resources?  The low resource gig
did okay as you know via many years of musings from me at okiebenz.
Thanks okiebenz for speaking - encouragement is nice from "fake"
friends (i.e. online / email = "fake") several of whom have been face
to face (MMM, Kaleb, Snook, DBT, DBV, Curley, Rusty, Hursty).
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I would say that the issues I saw in MS were racism, truly the black vs. white 
thing.  The Boston situation sounds far more like a cultural thing than racism. 
 I’ve seen the cultural thing play out in places like South Florida, where the 
Cubans have been displaced by the Haitians, the Haitians by the Guatemalans, 
etc., etc., as the waves of immigrants come into the country and gentrify the 
area.  The cultures seem to have little tolerance for each other, and the ones 
who are the most “landed” seem to feel a sense of ownership, resenting the 
presence of the newcomers.  How quickly they forget!

“There goes the neighborhood”

-D


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> --R wrote:
>> Musings...
> 
> WOW - a summary treatise for a tome about culture in america.
> The story that set my interest to MS years ago featured the MS river
> edge where it was too thick/impassable to traverse to the river until
> a utility company carved the path.  Culture seemed to be mentioned in
> the story so it seemed attractive.  i.e. real people, no mention of a
> disliked<->hated aspect, but this was from liberal main stream media
> NPR that shall not mention disliked<->hated aspects.  --R thanks for
> your musings which are probably real anywhere.  For me, the city/burbs
> is more expensive than gov't retirement takings are paying out and no
> savings so my scramble needs to happen.  It seems to be said that
> rent/food expenses should not exceed 60% of resources?  Yeah, that
> never happened so savings was not but there were years that easy
> seemed to happen for a few years so... I'm thankful.  We made it with
> tons of memory to make life.  Life still continues so a different
> scene needs to happen so maybe the 60% plateau can be approached.
> 
> Snook - Issaquena County sounds interesting unless the
> disliked<->hated aspect becomes like Deliverance=ugghh.  To get to 60%
> of resources, perhaps the combination of rural and poverty can be
> approached by city slicker with low resources?  The low resource gig
> did okay as you know via many years of musings from me at okiebenz.
> Thanks okiebenz for speaking - encouragement is nice from "fake"
> friends (i.e. online / email = "fake") several of whom have been face
> to face (MMM, Kaleb, Snook, DBT, DBV, Curley, Rusty, Hursty).
> tin
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But whoever drives a pre-2000 Mercedes diesel is Salt of the Earth and a
True Homie, regardless of skin color, ethnicity (or lack thereof), age,
cultural background, or political persuasion.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would say that the issues I saw in MS were racism, truly the black vs.
> white thing.  The Boston situation sounds far more like a cultural thing
> than racism.  I’ve seen the cultural thing play out in places like South
> Florida, where the Cubans have been displaced by the Haitians, the Haitians
> by the Guatemalans, etc., etc., as the waves of immigrants come into the
> country and gentrify the area.  The cultures seem to have little tolerance
> for each other, and the ones who are the most “landed” seem to feel a sense
> of ownership, resenting the presence of the newcomers.  How quickly they
> forget!
>
> “There goes the neighborhood”
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > --R wrote:
> >> Musings...
> >
> > WOW - a summary treatise for a tome about culture in america.
> > The story that set my interest to MS years ago featured the MS river
> > edge where it was too thick/impassable to traverse to the river until
> > a utility company carved the path.  Culture seemed to be mentioned in
> > the story so it seemed attractive.  i.e. real people, no mention of a
> > disliked<->hated aspect, but this was from liberal main stream media
> > NPR that shall not mention disliked<->hated aspects.  --R thanks for
> > your musings which are probably real anywhere.  For me, the city/burbs
> > is more expensive than gov't retirement takings are paying out and no
> > savings so my scramble needs to happen.  It seems to be said that
> > rent/food expenses should not exceed 60% of resources?  Yeah, that
> > never happened so savings was not but there were years that easy
> > seemed to happen for a few years so... I'm thankful.  We made it with
> > tons of memory to make life.  Life still continues so a different
> > scene needs to happen so maybe the 60% plateau can be approached.
> >
> > Snook - Issaquena County sounds interesting unless the
> > disliked<->hated aspect becomes like Deliverance=ugghh.  To get to 60%
> > of resources, perhaps the combination of rural and poverty can be
> > approached by city slicker with low resources?  The low resource gig
> > did okay as you know via many years of musings from me at okiebenz.
> > Thanks okiebenz for speaking - encouragement is nice from "fake"
> > friends (i.e. online / email = "fake") several of whom have been face
> > to face (MMM, Kaleb, Snook, DBT, DBV, Curley, Rusty, Hursty).
> > tin
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

WRONG!  That's my 76 Eldo convertible

--F


On 6/7/18 1:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

But whoever drives a pre-2000 Mercedes diesel is Salt of the Earth and a
True Homie, regardless of skin color, ethnicity (or lack thereof), age,
cultural background, or political persuasion.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Do you have one? My brother just bought a 1976 Eldorado Convertible.  It is 
GREEN and has 45,000 miles.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 12:54 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

WRONG!  That's my 76 Eldo convertible

--F


On 6/7/18 1:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> But whoever drives a pre-2000 Mercedes diesel is Salt of the Earth and 
> a True Homie, regardless of skin color, ethnicity (or lack thereof), 
> age, cultural background, or political persuasion.
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll never
forget.

One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic /
ambulance driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one
point (I think in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming and
logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for
directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some guy
on the street for help, the response was something along the lines of "Boy,
you aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we
don't need your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he
"kept on moving".

Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting
or looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood
and was getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough guy
and stand his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him down
the street and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd
outrun the bad guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to
them to ask for help and they promptly started beating him up.  He's saying
"wait wait, I'm one of you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from
around here, you're NOT one of us".

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=ether

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>  https://www.americhemsalescorp.com/
>
> https://m.grainger.com/mobile/search?searchQuery=Ether&searchBar=true
>
>
>
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

A background check like the one we pass to buy firearms should be req'd 
of all pols  maybe even a 3 year waiting list (sic)


LarryT


On 06/05/2018 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

"You have to pass it to see what's in it" only works with stool samples,
not bills before congress..

Grant... Circa 2018

I raise the suggestion that Congress should have to pass drug and alcohol
testing as well as mental competency testing, before every vote, and before
taking the Oath of Office.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a
large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled and
used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on
equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site prep
and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We
ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the
equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the
Breeder Reactor as it was called.

One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a
statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the waste we
have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we were
building.

But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50
years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue what's
in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we vote
on it

LarryT

Chester Va


On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:


Great question.

I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the
government
and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite nicely. It
is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.

After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material, with a
handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and. we have no place to
"dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
Sooo...

Where?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we just

screw it up with government regulation?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
however


that has to be answered first...

Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric


vehicles


that are going to "take over how the world drives"?

The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it that


are


over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind


storm..


the grid goes down.
What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid load


of


even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is the


lead
time to get approval for a new power plant, distribution lines? etc etc
et


al.

Electric car/ hybrid is a grand scheme... but it's missing a whole lot


of
pieces to really make it work.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I'd never heard of that Honda Clarity either, but I think that
concept

(plug-in hybrid) will be the long term winner.  Plug the car in at

home

to

charge during the night, then use all-electric power for the short


trip

to/from work.  Gasoline (or better yet a diesel) engine that kicks in

to
both drive the car and charge the batteries so the range is actually
useful


and hurricane evacuation or a long road trip is possible.

Now make them EMP-proof, un-hackable so the roosians or chinee don't


do

me

in, and designed so that if the battery pack fails, the car will


still

function on fossil fuels, and it is a car that I might consider in

twenty
years or so.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Ahh the "good old days"

-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 2:55:07 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll never
forget.

One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic /
ambulance driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one
point (I think in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming and
logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for
directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some guy
on the street for help, the response was something along the lines of "Boy,
you aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we
don't need your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he
"kept on moving".

Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting
or looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood
and was getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough guy
and stand his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him down
the street and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd
outrun the bad guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to
them to ask for help and they promptly started beating him up.  He's saying
"wait wait, I'm one of you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from
around here, you're NOT one of us".

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I like the idea that Congress has to pass any kind of drug/alcohol test they 
require welfare recipients to pass. After all they're taking money from the 
taxpayers its only fair they should have to show what wonderful (gag) people 
they are.
-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:02:45 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 A background check like the one we pass to buy firearms should be req'd 
of all pols  maybe even a 3 year waiting list (sic)

LarryT


On 06/05/2018 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> "You have to pass it to see what's in it" only works with stool samples,
> not bills before congress..
>
> Grant... Circa 2018
>
> I raise the suggestion that Congress should have to pass drug and alcohol
> testing as well as mental competency testing, before every vote, and before
> taking the Oath of Office.
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a
>> large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled and
>> used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on
>> equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site prep
>> and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We
>> ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the
>> equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the
>> Breeder Reactor as it was called.
>>
>> One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a
>> statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the waste we
>> have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we were
>> building.
>>
>> But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50
>> years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue what's
>> in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we vote
>> on it
>>
>> LarryT
>>
>> Chester Va
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Great question.
>>>
>>> I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
>>> Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
>>> running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
>>> miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the
>>> government
>>> and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite nicely. It
>>> is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.
>>>
>>> After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
>>> problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material, with a
>>> handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and. we have no place to
>>> "dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
>>> Sooo...
>>>
>>> Where?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we just
 screw it up with government regulation?

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

 Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
> however
>
>> that has to be answered first...
>>
>> Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric
>>
> vehicles
>
>> that are going to "take over how the world drives"?
>>
>> The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it that
>>
> are
>
>> over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind
>>
> storm..
>
>> the grid goes down.
>> What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid load
>>
> of
>
>> even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is the
>>
> lead
> time to get approval for a new power plant, distribution lines? etc etc
> et
>
>> al.
>>
>> Electric car/ hybrid is a grand scheme... but it's missing a whole lot
>>
> of
> pieces to really make it work.
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd never heard of that Honda Clarity either, but I think that
>> concept
> (plug-in hybrid) will be the long term winner.  Plug the car in at
>> home
> to
>>> charge during the night, then use all-electric power for the short
>>>
>> trip
> to/from work.  Gasoline (or better yet a diesel) engine that kicks in
>> to
>> both drive the car and charge the batteries so the range is actually
>> useful
>>
>>> and

Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is there any reasonable excuse for ether to cost $200 a gallon?


Hey Mike, I've got a couple of Tower .40 engines if you'd rather experiment 
with E85 and a little nitro. 

Mitch, who knew about the bean oil but had no idea model aviation diesel had 
ether in it.

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[MBZ] Mini NC Q

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Enjoyed breakfast and visit  with Craig & Shirley this morning.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Not interested right now. I have several glo engines as well. 
Thanks. 


Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there any reasonable excuse for ether to cost $200 a gallon?
> 
> 
> Hey Mike, I've got a couple of Tower .40 engines if you'd rather experiment 
> with E85 and a little nitro. 
> 
> Mitch, who knew about the bean oil but had no idea model aviation diesel had 
> ether in it.
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Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Awesome!

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

However entertaining a tale, I suspect that to be an urban myth.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Ahh the "good old days"
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 2:55:07 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll never
> forget.
>
> One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic /
> ambulance driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one
> point (I think in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
> Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming and
> logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for
> directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some guy
> on the street for help, the response was something along the lines of "Boy,
> you aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we
> don't need your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he
> "kept on moving".
>
> Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting
> or looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood
> and was getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough guy
> and stand his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him down
> the street and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd
> outrun the bad guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to
> them to ask for help and they promptly started beating him up.  He's saying
> "wait wait, I'm one of you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from
> around here, you're NOT one of us".
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

All citizens should also be able to obtain the same health care that
congress gets.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I like the idea that Congress has to pass any kind of drug/alcohol test
> they require welfare recipients to pass. After all they're taking money
> from the taxpayers its only fair they should have to show what wonderful
> (gag) people they are.
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:02:45 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  A background check like the one we pass to buy firearms should be req'd
> of all pols  maybe even a 3 year waiting list (sic)
>
> LarryT
>
>
> On 06/05/2018 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > "You have to pass it to see what's in it" only works with stool samples,
> > not bills before congress..
> >
> > Grant... Circa 2018
> >
> > I raise the suggestion that Congress should have to pass drug and alcohol
> > testing as well as mental competency testing, before every vote, and
> before
> > taking the Oath of Office.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a
> >> large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled
> and
> >> used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on
> >> equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site
> prep
> >> and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We
> >> ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the
> >> equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the
> >> Breeder Reactor as it was called.
> >>
> >> One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a
> >> statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the
> waste we
> >> have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we
> were
> >> building.
> >>
> >> But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50
> >> years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue
> what's
> >> in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we
> vote
> >> on it
> >>
> >> LarryT
> >>
> >> Chester Va
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great question.
> >>>
> >>> I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
> >>> Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
> >>> running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
> >>> miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the
> >>> government
> >>> and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite
> nicely. It
> >>> is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.
> >>>
> >>> After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
> >>> problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material,
> with a
> >>> handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and. we have no place to
> >>> "dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
> >>> Sooo...
> >>>
> >>> Where?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we
> just
>  screw it up with government regulation?
> 
>  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
> > however
> >
> >> that has to be answered first...
> >>
> >> Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric
> >>
> > vehicles
> >
> >> that are going to "take over how the world drives"?
> >>
> >> The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it
> that
> >>
> > are
> >
> >> over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind
> >>
> > storm..
> >
> >> the grid goes down.
> >> What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid
> load
> >>
> > of
> >
> >> even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is the
> >>
> > lead
> > time to get approval for a new power plant, distribution lines? etc
> etc
> > et
> >
> >> al.
> >>
> >> Electric car/ hybrid is a grand scheme... but it's missing a whole
> lot
> >>
> > of
> > pieces to really make it work.
> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 

Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What was on the menu?  Waffles?  Grits? Green eggs and ham?

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Awesome!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Enjoyed breakfast and visit  with Craig & Shirley this morning.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

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> On June 7, 2018 at 3:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> All citizens should also be able to obtain the same health care that
> congress gets.

Including free prescription drugs delivered to them at their work site?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Whatever our reps get we should get.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On June 7, 2018 at 3:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > All citizens should also be able to obtain the same health care that
> > congress gets.
>
> Including free prescription drugs delivered to them at their work site?
>
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Has anybody tried putting 2-4 gallons of E85 in the tank with regular or 
midgrade gas to bring the octane level up around 91-93?

What's the maximum permitted ethanol concentration in the M112?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Actually I think it should be the inverse, Congress should be on the same 
healthplan as the lowliest foot soldier in the Army. If its good enough for our 
boys and girls its good enough for congress...

-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:27:42 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 All citizens should also be able to obtain the same health care that congress 
gets.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 I like the idea that Congress has to pass any kind of drug/alcohol test they 
require welfare recipients to pass. After all they're taking money from the 
taxpayers its only fair they should have to show what wonderful (gag) people 
they are.
-Curt

    On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:02:45 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 A background check like the one we pass to buy firearms should be req'd 
of all pols  maybe even a 3 year waiting list (sic)

LarryT


On 06/05/2018 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> "You have to pass it to see what's in it" only works with stool samples,
> not bills before congress..
>
> Grant... Circa 2018
>
> I raise the suggestion that Congress should have to pass drug and alcohol
> testing as well as mental competency testing, before every vote, and before
> taking the Oath of Office.
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a
>> large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled and
>> used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on
>> equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site prep
>> and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We
>> ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the
>> equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the
>> Breeder Reactor as it was called.
>>
>> One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a
>> statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the waste we
>> have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we were
>> building.
>>
>> But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50
>> years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue what's
>> in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we vote
>> on it
>>
>> LarryT
>>
>> Chester Va
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Great question.
>>>
>>> I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
>>> Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
>>> running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
>>> miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the
>>> government
>>> and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite nicely. It
>>> is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.
>>>
>>> After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
>>> problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material, with a
>>> handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and. we have no place to
>>> "dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
>>> Sooo...
>>>
>>> Where?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we just
 screw it up with government regulation?

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

 Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
> however
>
>> that has to be answered first...
>>
>> Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric
>>
> vehicles
>
>> that are going to "take over how the world drives"?
>>
>> The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it that
>>
> are
>
>> over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind
>>
> storm..
>
>> the grid goes down.
>> What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid load
>>
> of
>
>> even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is the
>>
> lead
> time to get approval for a new power plant, distribution lines? etc etc
> et
>
>> al.
>>
>> Electric car/ hybrid is a grand scheme... but it's missing a whole lot
>>
> of
> pieces to really make it work.
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd never heard of

Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Is there any reasonable excuse for ether to cost $200 a gallon?

It may be diethyl ether USP which is pure enough for use as an anesthetic in 
surgery. Hence the high price.

Dimethyl ether is probably what MMM needs for his planes and shouldn't be so 
expensive:

"Dimethyl ether: An aerosol spray propellant. A potential renewable alternative 
fuel for diesel engines with a cetane rating as high as 56–57."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ether#Important_ethers

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

No Andrew,
All too common & true.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Jun 7, 2018 3:27 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

However entertaining a tale, I suspect that to be an urban myth.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Ahh the "good old days"
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 2:55:07 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll never
> forget.
>
> One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic /
> ambulance driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one
> point (I think in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
> Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming
and
> logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for
> directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some
guy
> on the street for help, the response was something along the lines of
"Boy,
> you aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we
> don't need your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he
> "kept on moving".
>
> Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting
> or looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood
> and was getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough guy
> and stand his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him
down
> the street and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd
> outrun the bad guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to
> them to ask for help and they promptly started beating him up.  He's
saying
> "wait wait, I'm one of you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from
> around here, you're NOT one of us".
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ok, thanks.   As a trained scientist, I am always skeptical, so I will
check Snopes later on.

On Jun 7, 2018 4:22 PM, "Dwight Giles"  wrote:

> No Andrew,
> All too common & true.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2018 3:27 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> However entertaining a tale, I suspect that to be an urban myth.
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Ahh the "good old days"
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 2:55:07 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll
> never
> > forget.
> >
> > One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic /
> > ambulance driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one
> > point (I think in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
> > Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming
> and
> > logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for
> > directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some
> guy
> > on the street for help, the response was something along the lines of
> "Boy,
> > you aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we
> > don't need your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he
> > "kept on moving".
> >
> > Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting
> > or looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood
> > and was getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough
> guy
> > and stand his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him
> down
> > the street and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd
> > outrun the bad guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to
> > them to ask for help and they promptly started beating him up.  He's
> saying
> > "wait wait, I'm one of you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from
> > around here, you're NOT one of us".
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Electrics and Hybrids

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds good to me.

On Jun 7, 2018 4:16 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Actually I think it should be the inverse, Congress should be on the same
> healthplan as the lowliest foot soldier in the Army. If its good enough for
> our boys and girls its good enough for congress...
>
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:27:42 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> All citizens should also be able to obtain the same health care that
> congress gets.
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I like the idea that Congress has to pass any kind of drug/alcohol test
> they require welfare recipients to pass. After all they're taking money
> from the taxpayers its only fair they should have to show what wonderful
> (gag) people they are.
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 3:02:45 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  A background check like the one we pass to buy firearms should be req'd
> of all pols  maybe even a 3 year waiting list (sic)
>
> LarryT
>
>
> On 06/05/2018 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > "You have to pass it to see what's in it" only works with stool samples,
> > not bills before congress..
> >
> > Grant... Circa 2018
> >
> > I raise the suggestion that Congress should have to pass drug and alcohol
> > testing as well as mental competency testing, before every vote, and
> before
> > taking the Oath of Office.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I worked on a pilot plant in Oak Ridge Tn which would have proved on a
> >> large scale that all that nuclear waste could be reprocessed/recycled
> and
> >> used to create even more electricity. After spending several Billion on
> >> equipment, more money on environmental lawsuits and much of the site
> prep
> >> and reactor mat, additional funding was before congress for a vote.  We
> >> ended up with a incredibly expensive hole in the ground.  Most of the
> >> equipment was unique (like sodium pumps) with little use outside the
> >> Breeder Reactor as it was called.
> >>
> >> One brilliant Senator from Tn with a last name of Gore, Sr., made a
> >> statement along the lines of ... we don't know what to do with the
> waste we
> >> have now, we shouldn't produce more... showing he had no idea what we
> were
> >> building.
> >>
> >> But that's typical of our current breed of politicians over the past 50
> >> years.  Vote on something vital for our nation and don't have a clue
> what's
> >> in the bill.  But we can always find out what's in the bill after we
> vote
> >> on it
> >>
> >> LarryT
> >>
> >> Chester Va
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/05/2018 2:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great question.
> >>>
> >>> I live downwind of the last Nuke plant certified in USA [I think] Palo
> >>> Verde Nuke plant  west of Phoenix, AZ. The hoops required to keep it
> >>> running are often discussed at the steak house [with cold beer] about 2
> >>> miles from the site, by engineers that work there. "I'm from the
> >>> government
> >>> and we're not happy until you're not happy." seems to fit quite
> nicely. It
> >>> is a "regulation rich environment" at the plant.
> >>>
> >>> After several decades of nuke plant operation in USA, we have reached a
> >>> problem with no solution. Nuke plants produce waste nuke material,
> with a
> >>> handy 1/2 life of several thousand years, and. we have no place to
> >>> "dispose of it".  The nuke disposal sites are now loaded to max...
> >>> Sooo...
> >>>
> >>> Where?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am curious.  Are nuclear power plants really a bad idea or did we
> just
>  screw it up with government regulation?
> 
>  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  Oh yeah, good points.  We need to build more Nukes!
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > OK, all good points, and I hear them. Just a "Little Question"
> > however
> >
> >> that has to be answered first...
> >>
> >> Where are you going to get the power to charge all these electric
> >>
> > vehicles
> >
> >> that are going to "take over how the world drives"?
> >>
> >> The electric power grid is falling apart. There are elements of it
> that
> >>
> > are
> >
> >> over 100 years old and patched together. First ice storm.. or wind
> >>
> > storm..
> >
> >> the grid goes down.
> >> What will power the new power plants necessary to support the grid
> load
> >>
> > of
> >
> >> even a few thousand electric cars plugged in overnight? What is 

Re: [MBZ] Diesel model airplane fuel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Penray sells 40% starting fluid. 
$25/dozen cans sounds reasonable, if putting more heptane than ether in the mix 
is OK. 
https://store.industriallubricant.com/products/penray-hd-premium-industrial-starting-fluid-case#collapseOne

The propellant is CO2, so it goes away by itself. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

If you are "one of them" it does make a difference.  My stepmother knew 
everyone on the Coast and all the important ones in Memphis and Oxford.  So, as 
long I can make a connection with somebody who knew my Stepmother, I was 
golden.   They do take care of their own and they do look sideways at folks who 
(in their admittedly bigoted opinion) don't belong. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mississippi

 Ahh the "good old days"

-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 2:55:07 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When I was young and living in WI, I was told two stories that I'll never 
forget.

One of my grade school teachers, a WI native, who had been a medic / ambulance 
driver in the Korean war, was touring around the country at one point (I think 
in late 50's or early 60's) in an old decrepit Ford coupe.
Not a big guy but very muscular, when he wasn't teaching he was farming and 
logging.  He stopped in some small town in the south, either asking for 
directions or had some car trouble or something.  Tried to talk to some guy on 
the street for help, the response was something along the lines of "Boy, you 
aren't from around here, are you?  You best just keep on moving, we don't need 
your type around here!".  Some type of threat followed, so he "kept on moving".

Different guy also from WI, was alone in some big southern town, visiting or 
looking for work or something, found himself in the wrong neighborhood and was 
getting the stink-eye from the locals.  He tried to be a tough guy and stand 
his ground, pretty soon a group of black men was chasing him down the street 
and he was running for his life.  Just when he thought he'd outrun the bad 
guys, he came upon a group of white guys, so he runs up to them to ask for help 
and they promptly started beating him up.  He's saying "wait wait, I'm one of 
you!" to which one replied "No, you're not from around here, you're NOT one of 
us".

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pardon if I sound stupid, but is E-85 high octane?  I thought it was just 
regular unleaded without ethanol.

And for what E-85 costs around here, it’s actually cheaper or the same to just 
put premium in it.  I just bought a couple gallons this week for the lawn 
equipment and I believe it was the same as what I pay for premium.

-D

 

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anybody tried putting 2-4 gallons of E85 in the tank with regular or 
> midgrade gas to bring the octane level up around 91-93?
> 
> What's the maximum permitted ethanol concentration in the M112?
> 
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] When it rains....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

..it pours.

Tuesday morning I get a call from spousal unit.

“My car won’t start and the battery is dead!”

Hmm.  Just put a brand new battery in the car a month ago.  Strange.

So she makes alternative transportation arrangement for work, and oldest son 
goes out and puts charger on the battery for me so I can check things out when 
I get home.  Oldest son texts me shortly after:

“When I hook up the charger I can hear the AC blower running.  It’s on even 
with the key and the ACC turned off.”  (He knows about REST - good boy!)

Hmm. Told him to disconnect the charger.  Ordered a fan controller, assuming 
that it’s shorted out and leaving the fan running all the time.

Fast forward to this morning.  I’m on the highway on my way to work and all the 
sudden the display on my W210 wagons starts going berserk.

“Check Engine Electronics - Check Engine” and an accompanying CEL.  Poop.  
Continue on, as car is running fine.

Stress and fret all day, assuming the worst.

Get home, jump into some work clothes and get out the SDS.  Hook it up to the 
W210 wagon and run diagnostics. P0400 error. Whew!  So now I need to see if 
I’ve got a bum hose or a clogged up EGR.  Could be a MAP issue, but unlikely.

So since I’ve gotten all grungy, I figure I’ll poke around on the R129 and get 
it ready to pull the blower housing for when the fan controller comes in.  So I 
disconnect the blower at the connector behind the brake booster, as I’m going 
to pull the yellow (control) wire out of the harness and hook everything else 
up to see if the fan still runs to confirm the controller is stuck on.  I 
notice that there’s a bunch of corrosion around the connector, so I pull 
everything apart and give it a good dose of DeOxIt.

I pull the filter from the blower housing so I can see the fan turn, and I plug 
the blower harness back in with everything in place.  No blower.

So it would appear that the blower controller was triggering due to the 
corrosion on and around the connector. Dang it.  Oh well, at least it’s working 
so I can get the spouse back in that car.

Then I look down in the blower housing, and guess what?

Yup, the strap that holds the motor in place is broken, as they all do.

So I’m pulling everything apart tonight to fix that and I’ll be done with it 
and can tear into the W210 and see what causing the P0400.

I wonder why all this stuff happens at the same time….

-D
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The E in E85 is ethanol, so E85 = 85% ethanol.
What you're describing would be E0
-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 5:18:46 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Pardon if I sound stupid, but is E-85 high octane?  I thought it was just 
regular unleaded without ethanol.

And for what E-85 costs around here, it’s actually cheaper or the same to just 
put premium in it.  I just bought a couple gallons this week for the lawn 
equipment and I believe it was the same as what I pay for premium.

-D

 

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anybody tried putting 2-4 gallons of E85 in the tank with regular or 
> midgrade gas to bring the octane level up around 91-93?
> 
> What's the maximum permitted ethanol concentration in the M112?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I understand that - I am saying that to my knowledge it’s the same octane 
as regular unleaded.  If that’s the case, it wouldn’t have any effect on the 
octane of the fuel in the tank.

-D


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> The E in E85 is ethanol, so E85 = 85% ethanol.
> 
> What you're describing would be E0
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 5:18:46 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pardon if I sound stupid, but is E-85 high octane?  I thought it was just 
> regular unleaded without ethanol.
> 
> And for what E-85 costs around here, it’s actually cheaper or the same to 
> just put premium in it.  I just bought a couple gallons this week for the 
> lawn equipment and I believe it was the same as what I pay for premium.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Has anybody tried putting 2-4 gallons of E85 in the tank with regular or 
> > midgrade gas to bring the octane level up around 91-93?
> > 
> > What's the maximum permitted ethanol concentration in the M112?
> > 
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I'm pretty sure that you're wrong and wikipedia agrees: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85#Octane_and_performance
-Curt

On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 5:50:44 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Yeah, I understand that - I am saying that to my knowledge it’s the same 
octane as regular unleaded.  If that’s the case, it wouldn’t have any effect on 
the octane of the fuel in the tank.

-D


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> The E in E85 is ethanol, so E85 = 85% ethanol.
> 
> What you're describing would be E0
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018, 5:18:46 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pardon if I sound stupid, but is E-85 high octane?  I thought it was just 
> regular unleaded without ethanol.
> 
> And for what E-85 costs around here, it’s actually cheaper or the same to 
> just put premium in it.  I just bought a couple gallons this week for the 
> lawn equipment and I believe it was the same as what I pay for premium.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Has anybody tried putting 2-4 gallons of E85 in the tank with regular or 
> > midgrade gas to bring the octane level up around 91-93?
> > 
> > What's the maximum permitted ethanol concentration in the M112?
> > 
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Lots of stuff on the menu, including grits (one syllable), but I had one egg 
scrambled, country ham (huge piece shared w/Craig) & toast; Craig had an egg 
sunny side up, bacon, part of my ham & toast; I think Shirley had scrambled 
egg, bacon & toast.  All 3 of us missed out on the grits - I'm sure there 
are enough remaining for you to have some next time you have the 
opportunity.   :>)


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q



What was on the menu?  Waffles?  Grits? Green eggs and ham?

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Awesome!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 

>
wrote:

> Enjoyed breakfast and visit  with Craig & Shirley this morning.
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Funny how Wiki gives two examples of mis-citation of E-85's octane rating 
without telling us what it really is. Unfortunately, I had the phony 104 rating 
stuck in my head and never bothered to look it up until just now. Apparently 
that came from Curley's beloved Iowa corn people. 

The best E-85 around apparently is only 99 octane, and anything over 100 is 
research octane, not pump octane.
https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel/e85-r

Pump E-85 can be as low as 70% ethanol, which would be well under 99 octane. I 
wish Michigan was one of the states that required labeling of the true ethanol 
percentage. Conversely, we have a prevention of information law that prohibits 
E0 pumps from being labeled as such, the permissible pump language is 'up to 
10% ethanol' for anything up to E10. 

Mitch. 

> On June 7, 2018 at 5:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  I'm pretty sure that you're wrong and wikipedia agrees: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85#Octane_and_performance

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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 7, 2018 at 5:50 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, I understand that - I am saying that to my knowledge it’s the same 
> octane as regular unleaded.  If that’s the case, it wouldn’t have any effect 
> on the octane of the fuel in the tank.

I believe 'regular' pump gas these days is about 85 octane, which becomes 87 
octane when laced with 10% ethanol. In some mountain states, you can buy the 85 
octane gas without the ethanol. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

According to this table, most of the ethanol free stuff is around 89-90 octane:

https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL

-D


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On June 7, 2018 at 5:50 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, I understand that - I am saying that to my knowledge it’s the same 
>> octane as regular unleaded.  If that’s the case, it wouldn’t have any effect 
>> on the octane of the fuel in the tank.
> 
> I believe 'regular' pump gas these days is about 85 octane, which becomes 87 
> octane when laced with 10% ethanol. In some mountain states, you can buy the 
> 85 octane gas without the ethanol. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got the blower motor out in 25 minutes.  Taking a break then it’s back into the 
garage to anchor the motor and put it all back together.

-D


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> ..it pours.
> 
> Tuesday morning I get a call from spousal unit.
> 
> “My car won’t start and the battery is dead!”
> 
> Hmm.  Just put a brand new battery in the car a month ago.  Strange.
> 
> So she makes alternative transportation arrangement for work, and oldest son 
> goes out and puts charger on the battery for me so I can check things out 
> when I get home.  Oldest son texts me shortly after:
> 
> “When I hook up the charger I can hear the AC blower running.  It’s on even 
> with the key and the ACC turned off.”  (He knows about REST - good boy!)
> 
> Hmm. Told him to disconnect the charger.  Ordered a fan controller, assuming 
> that it’s shorted out and leaving the fan running all the time.
> 
> Fast forward to this morning.  I’m on the highway on my way to work and all 
> the sudden the display on my W210 wagons starts going berserk.
> 
> “Check Engine Electronics - Check Engine” and an accompanying CEL.  Poop.  
> Continue on, as car is running fine.
> 
> Stress and fret all day, assuming the worst.
> 
> Get home, jump into some work clothes and get out the SDS.  Hook it up to the 
> W210 wagon and run diagnostics. P0400 error. Whew!  So now I need to see if 
> I’ve got a bum hose or a clogged up EGR.  Could be a MAP issue, but unlikely.
> 
> So since I’ve gotten all grungy, I figure I’ll poke around on the R129 and 
> get it ready to pull the blower housing for when the fan controller comes in. 
>  So I disconnect the blower at the connector behind the brake booster, as I’m 
> going to pull the yellow (control) wire out of the harness and hook 
> everything else up to see if the fan still runs to confirm the controller is 
> stuck on.  I notice that there’s a bunch of corrosion around the connector, 
> so I pull everything apart and give it a good dose of DeOxIt.
> 
> I pull the filter from the blower housing so I can see the fan turn, and I 
> plug the blower harness back in with everything in place.  No blower.
> 
> So it would appear that the blower controller was triggering due to the 
> corrosion on and around the connector. Dang it.  Oh well, at least it’s 
> working so I can get the spouse back in that car.
> 
> Then I look down in the blower housing, and guess what?
> 
> Yup, the strap that holds the motor in place is broken, as they all do.
> 
> So I’m pulling everything apart tonight to fix that and I’ll be done with it 
> and can tear into the W210 and see what causing the P0400.
> 
> I wonder why all this stuff happens at the same time….
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 7, 2018 at 7:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> According to this table, most of the ethanol free stuff is around 89-90 
> octane:
> 
> https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL

Around here, I believe it all comes out of the pipeline at 85 octane and they 
add octane boosters to it. They can't run alcohol through iron pipelines. 

The 'recreational gas' is, as you say, usually sold at 89 octane. I don't know 
of any in Eaton County, but I know of gas stations in the counties to the west 
and east of me that sell it. When regular was about $2.30 last fall, I bought 
six gallons of it at $3.49 for my generator. It would have been cheaper to buy 
Shell V+Power premium, but I wanted something non-oxygenated to store long 
term. 2/3 of it got run through my generator in April, and I got rid of the 
rest in my mowers. I'm just glad I made it through the whole winter without 
needing the generator, but getting hit with an ice storm in April wasn't much 
fun. In the summer I just buy 87 octane E10, and the need to mow my lawn keeps 
it from going stale. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains....

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 7, 2018 at 7:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Got the blower motor out in 25 minutes. 

At least it wasn't a W115.
What's it like to replace the blower in a Fintail?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/d/1982-mercydes-benz-240d/6610072346.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I didn't know MMM sold cars on Boston CL:
https://images.craigslist.org/00404_jy8gl07neho_600x450.jpg

And the ever famous "ran when parked" condition description. 
Mitch. 

> On June 7, 2018 at 7:44 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/d/1982-mercydes-benz-240d/6610072346.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Mercy!! The person must’ve been sniffing something before posting that, hahaha!
Kevin and Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Is the ad a joke or the seller crazy? 

Donald H. Snook
Karstetter & Bina LLC 
620-241-8800

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/d/1982-mercydes-benz-240d/6610072346.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have scars on my hand from doing a W114.

I don’t recall, but I’m sure Curley can enlighten us when he gets his dial up 
access fired up.  I seem to recall that they’re inside the cabin under the 
dash.  Heater valves are not fun in W110/W111/W108s.  They like to leak 
(they’re under the dash) and are not easy to get to.  A simple O ring fixes 
them, but it’s an ordeal to get them out.

-D

 
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On June 7, 2018 at 7:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Got the blower motor out in 25 minutes. 
> 
> At least it wasn't a W115.
> What's it like to replace the blower in a Fintail?
> 
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] It is raining feces

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Ok, not really.  We are having a sort of dry weather situation.  Have to use 
the hose on the garden starts.

For cars, though, the poop is in full fan mode.

Youngest boy child is spending this summer with his Y chromosome donor.  He 
thinks we will be attending a private Liberals  Arts school this fall.  Not 
sure he is ready for being a human adult so soon.  Either way, he has been 
using the SDL to get himself to small social events. He has failed to secure 
employment the summer prior to entering the college of massive long term debt.  
I am not paying for his tukass to to find his snow flake self.

So, he decided to lower the rear window in the SDL.  Cop cars do not have 
opening windows in back.  The rear windows in Polei are supposed to be non 
operational.  He hit the switch for right hand rear, and the glass popped off 
the motor and fell to the bottom of the door.  

He broke it, he gets to fix it.  

That stuff does not fix.  The interchange unit that slides on the track, but is 
mounted to the arm, was missing.  The arm from the motor had a rivet.  There 
was no sliding thing on the window track.   I found one or two  in the parts 
bin, but they did not fit.   I made #2 boy deal with the mess he made when he 
lowered the window and if fell off the track.  He did, it still does not work 
right, but at least he now knows not to use the window button.

The SD became incontenant this week.  I put her on ramps yesterday and found 
the coolant expansion tank had crazed itself to death and was leaking G-05.  
The low pressure PS hose has perished and has been slobbering fluid for months. 
 







clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Or both?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jun 7, 2018 7:55 PM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Is the ad a joke or the seller crazy?
>
> Donald H. Snook
> Karstetter & Bina LLC
> 620-241-8800
>
> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >
> > https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/d/1982-mercydes-benz-
> 240d/6610072346.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Get Together

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> Darn

Exchange for --R car?  Howzzat werke?  Didja drive 2 cars to SC?
Also... who was at Fat Hen?  Craig, Max, --R?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds pretty much like what I expected - delish.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:09 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Lots of stuff on the menu, including grits (one syllable), but I had one
> egg scrambled, country ham (huge piece shared w/Craig) & toast; Craig had
> an egg sunny side up, bacon, part of my ham & toast; I think Shirley had
> scrambled egg, bacon & toast.  All 3 of us missed out on the grits - I'm
> sure there are enough remaining for you to have some next time you have the
> opportunity.   :>)
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q
>
>
> What was on the menu?  Waffles?  Grits? Green eggs and ham?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome!
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Enjoyed breakfast and visit  with Craig & Shirley this morning.
>>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those darned bots again!

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Or both?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jun 7, 2018 7:55 PM, "Donald Snook via Mercedes"  >
> wrote:
>
> > Is the ad a joke or the seller crazy?
> >
> > Donald H. Snook
> > Karstetter & Bina LLC
> > 620-241-8800
> >
> > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/d/1982-mercydes-benz-
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Re: [MBZ] E-85 octane booster?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Technically there is not _any_ octane in alcohol!  Same as with propane
engines,
there is an octane _equivalent_ of the fuel, which is what is reported.

-- Jim (pedantically yours)
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Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Sounds tasty. Now show us some pics!

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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds pretty much like what I expected - delish.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:09 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Lots of stuff on the menu, including grits (one syllable), but I had one
>> egg scrambled, country ham (huge piece shared w/Craig) & toast; Craig had
>> an egg sunny side up, bacon, part of my ham & toast; I think Shirley had
>> scrambled egg, bacon & toast.  All 3 of us missed out on the grits - I'm
>> sure there are enough remaining for you to have some next time you have the
>> opportunity.   :>)
>> 
>> Wilt
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 3:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini NC Q
>> 
>> 
>> What was on the menu?  Waffles?  Grits? Green eggs and ham?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Awesome!
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
 wrote:
 
> Enjoyed breakfast and visit  with Craig & Shirley this morning.
> 
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