[MBZ] odometer: 375168 LINGLONG tires 1998 Mercedes ML320 for trade - $1, 800 (Middlesex)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Turd but you can drive it home

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/middlesex-1998-mercedes-ml320-for-trade/7385123944.html

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Re: [MBZ] odometer: 375168 LINGLONG tires 1998 Mercedes ML320 for trade - $1, 800 (Middlesex)

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Me love you linglong time.

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Turd but you can drive it home
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/middlesex-1998-mercedes-ml320-for-trade/7385123944.html
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Re: [MBZ] odometer: 375168 LINGLONG tires 1998 Mercedes ML320 for trade - $1, 800 (Middlesex)

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A pretty color isn't always enough...

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> Me love you linglong time.
>
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> >
> > Turd but you can drive it home
> >
> >
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/middlesex-1998-mercedes-ml320-for-trade/7385123944.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication

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Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently losing 
about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't make much 
difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. Apparently there's 
an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find a quartz movement to 
replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that does that sort of 
"modernization" of vintage car clocks?

Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something 
else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any modern 
radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really need one on 
its own.

Allan


On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not 
> going to mess with it just yet though.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say 
> > that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended 
> > up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come 
> > remotely close to meeting accurate time standards.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time 
> > > again will keep monitoring it.
> > > 
> > > I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't 
> > > see one, at least not one that's externally accessible.
> > > 
> > > Allan
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are 
> > >> very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's 
> > >> keeping time the lubricants are good.
> > >> 
> > >> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so 
> > >> low loading.
> > >> 
> > >> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean 
> > >> all the pivots and jewels (and I think  it's a jeweled movement, at 
> > >> least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY 
> > >> small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler.  That 
> > >> is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers 
> > >> the correct amount of oil.  You only need enough oil to fill the space 
> > >> between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the 
> > >> pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole).
> > >> 
> > >> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete 
> > >> cleaning.  Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the 
> > >> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding.  New oil usually won't 
> > >> thin out gummy old oil either. 
> > >> 
> > >> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in 
> > >> the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: BUFF to get new Rolls Royce engines

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Designed by guys with slide rules, short sleeve white shirts, skinny ties, 
short hair cuts, smoking Luckies

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/oldest-us-bomber-will-get-rolls-royce-engines-over-ge-pratt/ar-AAON0js?li=BBnbfcL
>>  
>> 
> 
> It's really amazing that this plane now has a near-100-year planned service 
> life!
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Re: [MBZ] W164 Steering Rack R

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yep. I always double the flat rate for any job I do myself... and consider that 
a "best case" estimate of how long it will take.

Allan

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> And that assumes you sorta know what you’re doing 
> 
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> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Someone was talking about the R for the steering on a W163/164.
> > 
> > I just saw the flat rate for the steering rack in a W164. 7.5 hours. Holy.
> > 
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

sprinkle some diesel on them and have a bonfire

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On 9/25/21 11:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have a growing problem of waste tires at Okie acres. Been trying to figure 
out what to do with them. I had tires all over the place. In the shop. In the 
barn. Piled up in various places. Apparently there is some group in town 
looking for used tire donations. For some fund raiser but not sure how that 
would work. Oooo. I got plenty of tires. I rounded them all up in a pile 
and they are coming to get them today. I’m getting ready to head to the airport 
to fly out for a week but will be shocked it they are gone when I get back. 
Surely this is too good to be true.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Nothing coming up on my searches in Atlanta.

Found this place... http://dandmrestoration.com/services/clocks/

Sent them an email

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these 
> clocks?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently 
> > losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't 
> > make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. 
> > Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find 
> > a quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that 
> > does that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks?
> > 
> > Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something 
> > else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any 
> > modern radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really 
> > need one on its own.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. 
> >> Not going to mess with it just yet though.
> >> 
> >> Allan
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I 
> >>> say that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually 
> >>> ended up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going 
> >>> to come remotely close to meeting accurate time standards.
> >>> 
> >>> -D
> >>> 
>  On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
>  
>  Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time 
>  again will keep monitoring it.
>  
>  I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't 
>  see one, at least not one that's externally accessible.
>  
>  Allan
>  
>  On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They 
> > are very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if 
> > it's keeping time the lubricants are good.
> > 
> > It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so 
> > low loading.
> > 
> > If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean 
> > all the pivots and jewels (and I think  it's a jeweled movement, at 
> > least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY 
> > small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler.  That 
> > is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers 
> > the correct amount of oil.  You only need enough oil to fill the space 
> > between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the 
> > pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole).
> > 
> > Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete 
> > cleaning.  Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the 
> > hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding.  New oil usually won't 
> > thin out gummy old oil either. 
> > 
> > I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in 
> > the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s.
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[MBZ] 2003 C230 - 160k miles - $2,600

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Doesn't seem like a terrible price?

Interior showing a little wear like a cheep klasse, but not all that bad 
looking.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/fox-valley-mercedes-benz-230-drives/7385519555.html

As I recall those 1.8l supercharged engines can be troublesome?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Chopped up and mixed with hot asphalt for paving projects?

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:08 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I have a growing problem of waste tires at Okie acres. Been trying to
> figure out what to do with them. I had tires all over the place. In the
> shop. In the barn. Piled up in various places. Apparently there is some
> group in town looking for used tire donations. For some fund raiser but not
> sure how that would work. Oooo. I got plenty of tires. I rounded them
> all up in a pile and they are coming to get them today. I’m getting ready
> to head to the airport to fly out for a week but will be shocked it they
> are gone when I get back. Surely this is too good to be true.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W164 Steering Rack R

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And that assumes you sorta know what you’re doing 

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:44 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone was talking about the R for the steering on a W163/164.
> 
> I just saw the flat rate for the steering rack in a W164. 7.5 hours. Holy.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: BUFF to get new Rolls Royce engines

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Allison Gas Turbines, which has been a RR facility for some years. The wife 
worked for them in 2008-9.

-D

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Work will be performed at the Rolls-Royce facility in Indianapolis"
> 
> This would be the old Allison Engine company, then.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Designed by guys with slide rules, short sleeve white shirts, skinny ties, 
>> short hair cuts, smoking Luckies
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/oldest-us-bomber-will-get-rolls-royce-engines-over-ge-pratt/ar-AAON0js?li=BBnbfcL
  
 
>>> 
>>> It's really amazing that this plane now has a near-100-year planned service 
>>> life!
>>> I would say that this is true of no other motorized vehicle on the planet.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a growing problem of waste tires at Okie acres. Been trying to figure 
out what to do with them. I had tires all over the place. In the shop. In the 
barn. Piled up in various places. Apparently there is some group in town 
looking for used tire donations. For some fund raiser but not sure how that 
would work. Oooo. I got plenty of tires. I rounded them all up in a pile 
and they are coming to get them today. I’m getting ready to head to the airport 
to fly out for a week but will be shocked it they are gone when I get back. 
Surely this is too good to be true. 



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Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these clocks?

-D

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently 
> losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't 
> make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. 
> Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find a 
> quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that does 
> that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks?
> 
> Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something 
> else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any modern 
> radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really need one on 
> its own.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. Not 
>> going to mess with it just yet though.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I say 
>>> that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually ended 
>>> up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going to come 
>>> remotely close to meeting accurate time standards.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time 
 again will keep monitoring it.
 
 I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't see 
 one, at least not one that's externally accessible.
 
 Allan
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They are 
> very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if it's 
> keeping time the lubricants are good.
> 
> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so low 
> loading.
> 
> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean 
> all the pivots and jewels (and I think  it's a jeweled movement, at least 
> the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY small 
> amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler.  That is, a 
> small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers the 
> correct amount of oil.  You only need enough oil to fill the space 
> between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the 
> pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole).
> 
> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete 
> cleaning.  Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the 
> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding.  New oil usually won't 
> thin out gummy old oil either. 
> 
> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in the 
> first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s.
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Clay via Mercedes]

Rammed earth eco homes like stuffing dirt in tires for outside walls.

Clay



> On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chopped up and mixed with hot asphalt for paving projects?
> 
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:08 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have a growing problem of waste tires at Okie acres. Been trying to
>> figure out what to do with them. I had tires all over the place. In the
>> shop. In the barn. Piled up in various places. Apparently there is some
>> group in town looking for used tire donations. For some fund raiser but not
>> sure how that would work. Oooo. I got plenty of tires. I rounded them
>> all up in a pile and they are coming to get them today. I’m getting ready
>> to head to the airport to fly out for a week but will be shocked it they
>> are gone when I get back. Surely this is too good to be true.
>> 


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[MBZ] W164 Steering Rack R

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Someone was talking about the R for the steering on a W163/164.

I just saw the flat rate for the steering rack in a W164. 7.5 hours. Holy.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: BUFF to get new Rolls Royce engines

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Work will be performed at the Rolls-Royce facility in Indianapolis"

This would be the old Allison Engine company, then.

Allan

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Designed by guys with slide rules, short sleeve white shirts, skinny ties, 
> short hair cuts, smoking Luckies
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> > On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:26 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/oldest-us-bomber-will-get-rolls-royce-engines-over-ge-pratt/ar-AAON0js?li=BBnbfcL
> >>  
> >> 
> > 
> > It's really amazing that this plane now has a near-100-year planned service 
> > life!
> > I would say that this is true of no other motorized vehicle on the planet.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

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Use your backhoe or front loader to dig a pit, then sprinkle some diesel on
them, then a sprinkle of gas [stale gas if you have it] with a trail out of
the pit... pitch a match on the trail, let the gas fire off the diesel,
which fires off the tires... Then you have a contained fire that you can
bury over when you're done... A tire fire throws off a lot of heat and
smoke, so you might draw someone's attention with a fire call.


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> sprinkle some diesel on them and have a bonfire
>
> --FT
>
> On 9/25/21 11:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have a growing problem of waste tires at Okie acres. Been trying to
> figure out what to do with them. I had tires all over the place. In the
> shop. In the barn. Piled up in various places. Apparently there is some
> group in town looking for used tire donations. For some fund raiser but not
> sure how that would work. Oooo. I got plenty of tires. I rounded them
> all up in a pile and they are coming to get them today. I’m getting ready
> to head to the airport to fly out for a week but will be shocked it they
> are gone when I get back. Surely this is too good to be true.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VDO mechanical clock cleaning/lubrication

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Jim (James) Mahaffey - the older dude that taught at Georgia Tech and wrote the 
book about the atomic accidents. He used to repair and rebuild clocks for older 
MBs.

-D

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nothing coming up on my searches in Atlanta.
> 
> Found this place... http://dandmrestoration.com/services/clocks/
> 
> Sent them an email
> 
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 2:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> There’s always Jim what's his face in Atlanta. Doesn’t he work on these 
>> clocks?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had the clock running on a battery for a week or so. It was consistently 
>>> losing about 1-2 minutes per hour. Tried the adjustment screw but it didn't 
>>> make much difference. Yesterday the clock completely stopped working. 
>>> Apparently there's an internal fuse but I had the thought of trying to find 
>>> a quartz movement to replace the guts of it. Anyone know of a shop that 
>>> does that sort of "modernization" of vintage car clocks?
>>> 
>>> Other option is to just use that spot on the instrument panel for something 
>>> else such as a cylinder head temperature gauge if I can find one. Any 
>>> modern radio I might install is going to give me a clock, I don't really 
>>> need one on its own.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 I think I found the calibration screw after all, it was under a sticker. 
 Not going to mess with it just yet though.
 
 Allan
 
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 1:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I would agree with the others, don’t attempt any sort of adjustment. I 
> say that because the few times I’ve tried tinkering with these I usually 
> ended up making things worse. It’s an antique timepiece, it’s not going 
> to come remotely close to meeting accurate time standards.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Lost about 20 minutes in the past 16 hours. I reset it to correct time 
>> again will keep monitoring it.
>> 
>> I had read there's a calibration screw on (some?) of these but I don't 
>> see one, at least not one that's externally accessible.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Unless you have experience with clockworks, I'd leave it alone. They 
>>> are very well sealed and don't seem to collect dust and dirt, and if 
>>> it's keeping time the lubricants are good.
>>> 
>>> It's a simple clock, wound as described with a fairly soft spring, so 
>>> low loading.
>>> 
>>> If you do want to lubricate it, you really need to dis-assemble, clean 
>>> all the pivots and jewels (and I think  it's a jeweled movement, at 
>>> least the fast running parts), then assemble and lubricate with VERY 
>>> small amounts of synthetic clock oil applied with a clock oiler.  That 
>>> is, a small wire with the end flattened into a tiny spoon that delivers 
>>> the correct amount of oil.  You only need enough oil to fill the space 
>>> between the pivot and the hole, and just barely the shoulder behind the 
>>> pivot (the pin like bit that goes in the hole).
>>> 
>>> Do NOT add oil to an old clock, even a sealed one without complete 
>>> cleaning.  Any dust or grit around the pivot will get carried into the 
>>> hole by the new oil, and it will start grinding.  New oil usually won't 
>>> thin out gummy old oil either. 
>>> 
>>> I'd assume it was lubricated with high quality synthetic clock oil in 
>>> the first place -- Elgin developed them in the 30s.
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Clay via Mercedes]

Shades of antifa and blm festivities as well as apartheid necklacing.  Wonder 
who is planning for regime change.

Clay


> On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> sprinkle some diesel on them and have a bonfire

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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> bury over when you're done... A tire fire throws off a lot of heat and
> smoke, so you might draw someone's attention with a fire call.

My dear departed mother recommended having tire fires at night,
so the giant black smoke plume of poisonous vapors did not draw
attention.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres tire disposal

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is a very good idea. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> bury over when you're done... A tire fire throws off a lot of heat and
>> smoke, so you might draw someone's attention with a fire call.
> 
> My dear departed mother recommended having tire fires at night,
> so the giant black smoke plume of poisonous vapors did not draw
> attention.
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] 211 stuff

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The blower quit working a coupla weeks ago so I fooled around with that. Took 
it out and lubed it still wouldn’t work   Checked a fuse in the footwell that 
supposedly was for the fan, it looked ok. I ordered another controller that 
came this week so put it in this afternoon. Fan needed help to get spinning but 
once going was ok. 

I swapped in the old controller and no joy so put the new one back and fan will 
work but won’t start spinning. So ordered a new fan. I guess the bad fan burned 
out that controller. 

Drove the car this morning as it was cool and didn’t need AC. Turned on 
headlights and got all kinds of errors for pass side, nothing working. I fooled 
around with connectors (and one of them  connects to nothing???) but still no 
joy. Some research shows there is a module in the…. Footwell! that controls 
that side. So I must have buggered it when I was checking the blower fuse. Bah. 
Tomorrow job. 

Oh, the driver footwell was soaked. We had massive rain a few days ago so I 
guess a drain is plugged. Apparently there is one behind the fender liner. 
Another tomorrow job.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 211 stuff

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You need some NOx boost!  HOORAH

--FT

On 9/25/21 7:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Got out in the garage early (6:30) to beat the heat and replace the motor 
mounts on the W210 wagon, something I’ve been putting off for months.

In the same boat with my W116, been putting that off for too long.

Drove the Karmann Ghia a bit today. Such a fun little car. Not a lot of power 
to be sure, but the suspension is taut and it's so light the steering is 
effortless. Double checked the timing and carb balance, had to tweak the 
right-hand carb just a bit. It's running pretty well now. Still seems a bit 
starved for fuel when I put my foot down but getting better. I'm hoping that 
Techron/Seafoam in the fuel will improve that up after a few tanks.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 211 stuff

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Must be something in the air today…

Got out in the garage early (6:30) to beat the heat and replace the motor 
mounts on the W210 wagon, something I’ve been putting off for months.

Did the passenger side first for the easy win.

Spent over an hour struggling with the top bolt on the driver’s side with no 
joy. I’ve got the special offset wrench and everything.

I finally tossed in the towel and moved on to the transmission mount, which 
went without a hitch.

Despite only replacing on motor mount, things are much, much better. Not sure 
when I’ll take another swing at the driver’s side mount, but…

-D

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The blower quit working a coupla weeks ago so I fooled around with that. 
> Took it out and lubed it still wouldn’t work   Checked a fuse in the footwell 
> that supposedly was for the fan, it looked ok. I ordered another controller 
> that came this week so put it in this afternoon. Fan needed help to get 
> spinning but once going was ok. 
> 
> I swapped in the old controller and no joy so put the new one back and fan 
> will work but won’t start spinning. So ordered a new fan. I guess the bad fan 
> burned out that controller. 
> 
> Drove the car this morning as it was cool and didn’t need AC. Turned on 
> headlights and got all kinds of errors for pass side, nothing working. I 
> fooled around with connectors (and one of them  connects to nothing???) but 
> still no joy. Some research shows there is a module in the…. Footwell! that 
> controls that side. So I must have buggered it when I was checking the blower 
> fuse. Bah. Tomorrow job. 
> 
> Oh, the driver footwell was soaked. We had massive rain a few days ago so I 
> guess a drain is plugged. Apparently there is one behind the fender liner. 
> Another tomorrow job.
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: BUFF to get new Rolls Royce engines

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Even more amazing when you consider all the unusual features, like bicycle
landing gear, nose down takeoff attitude (no slats), lack of ailerons
(spoilers only), short tail (original "shark" tail torqued the fuselage),
downward-firing ejection seats, and so forth.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:26 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Jim Cathey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: BUFF to get new Rolls Royce engines

>
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/oldest-us-bomber-will-get-rolls-ro
yce-engines-over-ge-pratt/ar-AAON0js?li=BBnbfcL


It's really amazing that this plane now has a near-100-year planned service
life!
I would say that this is true of no other motorized vehicle on the planet.

-- Jim

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[MBZ] ElectrifyinG

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.amlu.com/2021/09/23/mercedes-benz-concept-eqg-previews-g-wagons-ev-rebirth

https://www.amlu.com/2021/09/21/2022-mercedes-benz-eqb-gears-up-for-u-s-launch

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Re: [MBZ] 211 stuff

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, at 7:06 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Got out in the garage early (6:30) to beat the heat and replace the motor 
> mounts on the W210 wagon, something I’ve been putting off for months.

In the same boat with my W116, been putting that off for too long.

Drove the Karmann Ghia a bit today. Such a fun little car. Not a lot of power 
to be sure, but the suspension is taut and it's so light the steering is 
effortless. Double checked the timing and carb balance, had to tweak the 
right-hand carb just a bit. It's running pretty well now. Still seems a bit 
starved for fuel when I put my foot down but getting better. I'm hoping that 
Techron/Seafoam in the fuel will improve that up after a few tanks.

Allan
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