Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

…with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as he said…


[00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - 
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I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I should take 
my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?

-D


Seats appear to be the wrong colour.

Randy


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[MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

…with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as he said…


[00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
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I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I should take 
my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Dangling Connector Passenger Rear W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Got it.

That looks like a connector that’s important. I would get under there and see 
if you can tell where it might have been plugged in. If you don’t see anything, 
just tie it up out of the way as you’ve done and move on.

The rubber spring covers are a PITA and I’m not sure exactly why they did this. 
They deteriorate over time as you can see. You can try pulling all of it off, 
but I would just let it deteriorate in place. Unfortunately, these hold 
moisture, so you can see where the springs are rusting. Unless you see 
something concerning, ignore it, there’s nothing you can do and it likely won’t 
hurt anything.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I sent you the pics. I’m not sure what I did to make this not work. I’m such 
> an old man when it come to tech crap. 
> 
> AZGeezerMan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:52 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Attach the picture, or text me a copy.
>> 
>> It could be the connector for the brake light controller if you don’t have a 
>> hitch installed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Saw this today:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’m thinking it is there if someone wants to install that spare tire holder 
>>> contraption. I didn’t see anything it obviously plugged into so I simply 
>>> zip tied it up out of the way.
>>> While under there I noticed this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is that just some type of coating on the bottom of the slings I am 
>>> unfamiliar with?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

12 cylinder W126?

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 10:16 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as he
> said…
>
> <
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - craigslist<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
> orlando.craigslist.org<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
>
> I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I should
> take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Back to 124 Daily Driver

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And just when everyone accepts this as the new reality, things get upended
again.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, at 16:12, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Take from this what you will.
> >
> > My take?
> > Save your money, get out of debt.
> > A recession is eminent.
> > We (as a country) will have a better view of what's happening by the
> > third quarter. I *think* interest rates are not coming down soon, so
>
> Also, commercial real estate may finally be coming to terms with the
> reality that a lot of it just isn't needed anymore. A lot of big loans may
> be deeply underwater.
>
> https://archive.is/meem7 (Archived from Bloomberg.com)
>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not to mention the “ran when parked 18 years ago”, which, properly translated, 
means “Bring large amounts of cash to resolve any and all issues.”

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Very few cars are worth dealing with a wacko seller. Who knows what she'll do 
when it comes to actually closing the deal.


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, at 11:30, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> You would think, but that tan colour doesn’t photograph well for some 
> reason. I’ve seen several instances where it ends up looking weirdly 
> different from everything around it. That’s the case here, as I’ve 
> verified with the owner that the seats are, in fact, the same colour as 
> the rest of the interior.
>
> I’ve spoken to the owner several times over the past year. She’s 
> weirdly religious, as in she infuses it into nearly everything she 
> says, someone who I would refer to as “running at a different 
> frequency” than the rest of us. Nice lady, just a little quirky, sort 
> of. If you approach her and somehow don’t sit well with her, she cuts 
> you off and you’re done.
>
> I tried engaging with her when the car was first listed and doing no 
> more than asking about the front seat colour, she cut me off. I’ve gone 
> back to her in subsequent listings using sock puppet accounts to try 
> and gather additional information.
>
> I suspect her behavior, rather than the price of the car, is what’s 
> causing her diffculty in selling it.
>
> I’m sort of half interested if it could get to a more reasonable (for 
> me) price. A nearly 30 year old M120 that’s been sitting for a least a 
> year will not be fun or cheap to resurrect.
>
> -D
>
>> On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as he 
>>> said…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - 
>>> craigslist
>>> orlando.craigslist.org
>>> 
>>> I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I should 
>>> take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
>>> 
>>> -D
>> 
>> Seats appear to be the wrong colour.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
"special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.

I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those is 
a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires to 
accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are made 
with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything anymore...
That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
possibility to it.

-Curt



On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 12:20:24 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Not to mention the “ran when parked 18 years ago”, which, properly translated, 
means “Bring large amounts of cash to resolve any and all issues.”

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Where is your spirit of adventure?

Randy


On 15/02/2024 12:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
"special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.

I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those is 
a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires to 
accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are made 
with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything anymore...
That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
possibility to it.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Lesson learned if I ever need to take that manifold off again, I need to pull 
it back just far enough to unplug that connector, before lifting it up and out.

Probably would have been described in the shop manual if I had one, though 
sometimes they just say something like "unbolt and remove the manifold"



On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, at 13:37, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 13:17:17 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> Well finally got this done. Waited for a warm(er) day, soldered up all
>> the connectors, which was more tedious than I had expected. Really glad
>> I was able to get the wiring up to the top of the engine bay it would
>> have been a real bear otherwise. That connection is totally hidden
>> behind the manifold when it's in place, it took me about 5 minutes of
>> blind work with my fingertips to get the plug inserted. Got everything
>> back in place, started up, runs smoothly, no codes.
>
> Congratulations!
>
>
>> Only issue is the MAP sensor connection, the locking tab has snapped
>> off and it doesn't want to stay plugged in. I have a zip tie around it
>> hopefully that will keep it together.
>
> May it do so!
>
>
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL, in a 1989 Tucker Sno-Cat.

The dash panels on the machine are all flat sheets attached to a welded steel 
frame. The heater vents are circular similar to a W123 but held together with a 
thin spring that doesn't stay clipped in place for crap. These things vibrate 
terribly in the best of times, the clips don't have a chance. The panels the 
ducts are in have gotten hard and all the screw holes have broken out.

The ducts are 2" and at this point just worn out. They're hard to get on and 
wont stay.

So I ordered an RV ducting kit off eBay, accidentally bought 3", whoops. Then I 
got a sheet of 1/8" acrylic and made a new panel. This was dumb, acrylic is 
much too brittle. Got the sheet cut to approximately the right shape, got a 
duct installed. The eBay has vents that clip together, way better than the 
Tucker ones, still not as good as a W123 though.

Anyway, made myself a new panel, cut a slit in the 3" duct to neck it down to 
2" and held it on with a clamp: https://photos.app.goo.gl/gFT5z3pejRbjfRJk7

It flows air wy better than it did before. If it ever snows I'll at least 
be able to defrost the windshield. I need to rig the other side with a similar, 
but better deal and remake the panel for this side. I'm thinking an HDPE sheet 
would work better and be less brittle. Found a place online to get them.

The machine is for sale if anybody wants a big toy: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KD93dGt6xMVH73qh9

We're going to start at $35,000 but would accept $30,000. Trying to sell off 2 
machines to buy 1 newer one. We don't really have enough operators for all the 
machines we have anyway...

-Curt


On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 02:43:29 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Where is your spirit of adventure?

Randy


On 15/02/2024 12:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I don't think it stops at the drive train. IIRC everything about that car is 
> "special" like the window winders, door closers, brakes, etc on and on and on.
>
> I've also read, but never had confirmed, that working on the wiring on those 
> is a nightmare because when a design change comes through they add new wires 
> to accommodate the change but never remove the old ones. So newer cars are 
> made with the old wires included, they just don't connect to anything 
> anymore...
> That's probably one of those untrue stories but its got that stink of 
> possibility to it.
>
> -Curt
>


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

No doubt, there would be other hurdles, but if you just wanted the look 
of the Rolls, you could likely solve the problems without rebuilding a 
Rolls.


I am sure I must have told the story about my mechanic son working on a 
vintage Rolls that essentially had no brakes. If I recall correctly it 
had some sort of hydraulic setup that ran off of the transmission. Parts 
were either unobtainable or so expensive that it made no sense. They 
installed a vacuum booster intended for a Chevy Corvette and that helped 
a bit. Ultimately, they swapped the left side brake shoes to the right 
side and vice versa, so that the leading shoe was opposite of what it 
had been, and that helped a lot. My son did not think the brakes were 
all that wonderful even then, but the owner was satisfied. He only drove 
it in parades or something like that so didn't care that they were not 
state of the art.


Randy

On 15/02/2024 11:28 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

True, but how do you address the hydraulic suspension? Or does this model have 
it?

-D


On Feb 15, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink 
slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a 
hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.

AZBob


Body looks pretty good.

Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and carry on.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Well finally got this done. Waited for a warm(er) day, soldered up all the 
connectors, which was more tedious than I had expected. Really glad I was able 
to get the wiring up to the top of the engine bay it would have been a real 
bear otherwise. That connection is totally hidden behind the manifold when it's 
in place, it took me about 5 minutes of blind work with my fingertips to get 
the plug inserted. Got everything back in place, started up, runs smoothly, no 
codes.

Only issue is the MAP sensor connection, the locking tab has snapped off and it 
doesn't want to stay plugged in. I have a zip tie around it hopefully that will 
keep it together.


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 17:58, Allan Streib wrote:
> 2009 XC90. Bought it only because I knew the seller and he had cared 
> for it meticulously. It needed rear wheel bearings, he didn't want to 
> spend the money, and he gave me a good deal.
>
> It's been a good car overall. Comfortable, well made, pretty easy to 
> work on overall. It's a two wheel drive model, which in this car is 
> front-wheel drive. The engine is a 3.2 liter inline 6, basically a Ford 
> engine I think, Ford owned Volvo until 2010. Transmission is by Aisin. 
> It tows our little pop-up camper fine.
>
> It's probably comparable to an ML320, though I've never owned one of those.
>
> Just under 200k on it now. I've owned it since 2018.
>
> I was able to unclip the wiring harness in a few other places and raise 
> it up enough so that I can work on it in a neutral standing position. 
> That is going to help a lot. Now I can't find my solder, may have to 
> buy some. Going to finish this up tomorrow.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 17:02, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> I know you have referred to the Volvo previously, but I don't recall all 
>> of it. What year, and model is it, what mileage on it, and has it been a 
>> good car?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble 
>>> the connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. 
>>> The crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the 
>>> crimp that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm thinking I 
>>> can either try to solder the wires directly back on to the connectors, or 
>>> solder on some pigtails, and then solder those to the original harness with 
>>> heat-shrink tubing to seal the connections. Then reassemble the plug.
>>>
>>> This is not going to be fun, as I'll have to work bent over and reaching 
>>> about halfway down in the space between the engine and radiator. Will need 
>>> some way to hold things together while I solder -- alligator clips I 
>>> suppose.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 15:23, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was
 working on the car (that's me).

 The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and
 converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the
 radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above or
 below. I overlooked a connector on the bottom of the throtle body
 housing and when I pulled the assembly up and out it just ripped the
 wires out.

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing

 Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to
 reconnect the plug.

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing


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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Is she on par with the P.O. of your AZ home? 
That guy was a wack job.

AZBob

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> On Feb 15, 2024, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No soup for you!
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 11:31 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You would think, but that tan colour doesn’t photograph well for some
>> reason. I’ve seen several instances where it ends up looking weirdly
>> different from everything around it. That’s the case here, as I’ve verified
>> with the owner that the seats are, in fact, the same colour as the rest of
>> the interior.
>> 
>> I’ve spoken to the owner several times over the past year. She’s weirdly
>> religious, as in she infuses it into nearly everything she says, someone
>> who I would refer to as “running at a different frequency” than the rest of
>> us. Nice lady, just a little quirky, sort of. If you approach her and
>> somehow don’t sit well with her, she cuts you off and you’re done.
>> 
>> I tried engaging with her when the car was first listed and doing no more
>> than asking about the front seat colour, she cut me off. I’ve gone back to
>> her in subsequent listings using sock puppet accounts to try and gather
>> additional information.
>> 
>> I suspect her behavior, rather than the price of the car, is what’s
>> causing her diffculty in selling it.
>> 
>> I’m sort of half interested if it could get to a more reasonable (for me)
>> price. A nearly 30 year old M120 that’s been sitting for a least a year
>> will not be fun or cheap to resurrect.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as
>> he said…
 
 <
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
>>> 
 [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - craigslist<
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
>>> 
 orlando.craigslist.org<
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
>>> 
 
 I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I
>> should take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
 
 -D
>>> 
>>> Seats appear to be the wrong colour.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 13:17:17 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well finally got this done. Waited for a warm(er) day, soldered up all
> the connectors, which was more tedious than I had expected. Really glad
> I was able to get the wiring up to the top of the engine bay it would
> have been a real bear otherwise. That connection is totally hidden
> behind the manifold when it's in place, it took me about 5 minutes of
> blind work with my fingertips to get the plug inserted. Got everything
> back in place, started up, runs smoothly, no codes.

Congratulations!


> Only issue is the MAP sensor connection, the locking tab has snapped
> off and it doesn't want to stay plugged in. I have a zip tie around it
> hopefully that will keep it together.

May it do so!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

You would think, but that tan colour doesn’t photograph well for some reason. 
I’ve seen several instances where it ends up looking weirdly different from 
everything around it. That’s the case here, as I’ve verified with the owner 
that the seats are, in fact, the same colour as the rest of the interior.

I’ve spoken to the owner several times over the past year. She’s weirdly 
religious, as in she infuses it into nearly everything she says, someone who I 
would refer to as “running at a different frequency” than the rest of us. Nice 
lady, just a little quirky, sort of. If you approach her and somehow don’t sit 
well with her, she cuts you off and you’re done.

I tried engaging with her when the car was first listed and doing no more than 
asking about the front seat colour, she cut me off. I’ve gone back to her in 
subsequent listings using sock puppet accounts to try and gather additional 
information.

I suspect her behavior, rather than the price of the car, is what’s causing her 
diffculty in selling it.

I’m sort of half interested if it could get to a more reasonable (for me) 
price. A nearly 30 year old M120 that’s been sitting for a least a year will 
not be fun or cheap to resurrect.

-D

> On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as he 
>> said…
>> 
>> 
>> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
>> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - 
>> craigslist
>> orlando.craigslist.org
>> 
>> I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I should 
>> take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
>> 
>> -D
> 
> Seats appear to be the wrong colour.
> 
> Randy
> 
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[MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/ In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a pink slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, this is a hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw money into.  AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Stunningly Clean Smooth as Butter Very Rare

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1558145921638790/  AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] 82K Miles? Uhh….

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/930783132093548/ It musta lived a really rough life in that barn. Many visual clues don’t corroborate the 82K miles claim. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Stunningly Clean Smooth as Butter Very Rare

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s actually a pretty nice deal from the looks and description.

In September of 2017 I bought a 1998 wagon just like this with 170k on the 
clock, paying $3300 to a Mom and Pop dealer over in Pinellas County. One owner, 
great VMI, dealer maintained, spent it’s life in Tallahassee, so it never saw 
snow.

Fast forward to the present, and it’s still running, rarely needs anything more 
than regular oil and fluid changes, with over 220k on the clock. I’ve 
definitely gotten my money out of it.

W210s are the Camrys of the Mercedes line.

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1558145921638790/


AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No soup for you!

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 11:31 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You would think, but that tan colour doesn’t photograph well for some
> reason. I’ve seen several instances where it ends up looking weirdly
> different from everything around it. That’s the case here, as I’ve verified
> with the owner that the seats are, in fact, the same colour as the rest of
> the interior.
>
> I’ve spoken to the owner several times over the past year. She’s weirdly
> religious, as in she infuses it into nearly everything she says, someone
> who I would refer to as “running at a different frequency” than the rest of
> us. Nice lady, just a little quirky, sort of. If you approach her and
> somehow don’t sit well with her, she cuts you off and you’re done.
>
> I tried engaging with her when the car was first listed and doing no more
> than asking about the front seat colour, she cut me off. I’ve gone back to
> her in subsequent listings using sock puppet accounts to try and gather
> additional information.
>
> I suspect her behavior, rather than the price of the car, is what’s
> causing her diffculty in selling it.
>
> I’m sort of half interested if it could get to a more reasonable (for me)
> price. A nearly 30 year old M120 that’s been sitting for a least a year
> will not be fun or cheap to resurrect.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as
> he said…
> >>
> >> <
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
> >> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
> >> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - craigslist<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
> >> orlando.craigslist.org<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
> >
> >>
> >> I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I
> should take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
> >>
> >> -D
> >
> > Seats appear to be the wrong colour.
> >
> > Randy
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Re: [MBZ] quit running and don’t have time to figure out what is wrong 2011 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 350 BLUETEC Sport Utility 4D,$2,500

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Who decided to put the seat position controls on the door panel when they
> are more convenient on the side of the bucket seat itself.

The person who finds them easier to reach there from _outside_ the car.
The height of the controls off the ground is the issue.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Dangling Connector Passenger Rear W163

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

You can’t see it in the picture but that connector is fitted with a cover/plug protecting it from road schumtz. That’s what made me think it’s something that may or may not get utilized. The hitch does already have a proper wiring harness fitted which made me figure that this random one would be for that spare tire holder contraption I’ve seen.  AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:40 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] Dangling Connector Passenger Rear W163 Got it. That looks like a connector that’s important. I would get under there and see if you can tell where it might have been plugged in. If you don’t see anything, just tie it up out of the way as you’ve done and move on. The rubber spring covers are a PITA and I’m not sure exactly why they did this. They deteriorate over time as you can see. You can try pulling all of it off, but I would just let it deteriorate in place. Unfortunately, these hold moisture, so you can see where the springs are rusting. Unless you see something concerning, ignore it, there’s nothing you can do and it likely won’t hurt anything. -D  > On Feb 14, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:> > I sent you the pics. I’m not sure what I did to make this not work. I’m such an old man when it come to tech crap. > > AZGeezerMan> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:52 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  wrote:>> >> Attach the picture, or text me a copy.>> >> It could be the connector for the brake light controller if you don’t have a hitch installed.>> >> -D>> >>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:>>> >>> Saw this today:>>> >>> >>> I’m thinking it is there if someone wants to install that spare tire holder contraption. I didn’t see anything it obviously plugged into so I simply zip tied it up out of the way.>>> While under there I noticed this:>>> >>> >>> Is that just some type of coating on the bottom of the slings I am unfamiliar with?>>> >>> AZBob>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone>>> ___>>> http://www.okiebenz.com>>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>>> >> >> ___>> http://www.okiebenz.com>> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/

In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get 
a pink slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money 
into, this is a hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, 
that you throw money into.


AZBob


Body looks pretty good.

Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and 
carry on.


Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Dangling Connector Passenger Rear W163

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If it’s capped off, which I couldn’t tell from the photo, I wouldn’t worry 
about it other than what you’ve done so far.

-D

On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You can’t see it in the picture but that connector is fitted with a cover/plug 
protecting it from road schumtz. That’s what made me think it’s something that 
may or may not get utilized. The hitch does already have a proper wiring 
harness fitted which made me figure that this random one would be for that 
spare tire holder contraption I’ve seen.

AZBob

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:40 AM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dangling Connector Passenger Rear W163

Got it.

That looks like a connector that’s important. I would get under there and see 
if you can tell where it might have been plugged in. If you don’t see anything, 
just tie it up out of the way as you’ve done and move on.

The rubber spring covers are a PITA and I’m not sure exactly why they did this. 
They deteriorate over time as you can see. You can try pulling all of it off, 
but I would just let it deteriorate in place. Unfortunately, these hold 
moisture, so you can see where the springs are rusting. Unless you see 
something concerning, ignore it, there’s nothing you can do and it likely won’t 
hurt anything.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> I sent you the pics. I’m not sure what I did to make this not work. I’m such 
> an old man when it come to tech crap.
>
> AZGeezerMan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:52 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Attach the picture, or text me a copy.
>>
>> It could be the connector for the brake light controller if you don’t have a 
>> hitch installed.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Saw this today:
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m thinking it is there if someone wants to install that spare tire holder 
>>> contraption. I didn’t see anything it obviously plugged into so I simply 
>>> zip tied it up out of the way.
>>> While under there I noticed this:
>>>
>>>
>>> Is that just some type of coating on the bottom of the slings I am 
>>> unfamiliar with?
>>>
>>> AZBob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

True, but how do you address the hydraulic suspension? Or does this model have 
it?

-D

> On Feb 15, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 15/02/2024 10:59 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355549924090599/
>> 
>> In storage 18 years. I can’t even imagine what PRK would charge to get a 
>> pink slip for that. If a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, 
>> this is a hole in the earth , with a small black hole in it, that you throw 
>> money into.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
> Body looks pretty good.
> 
> Yank out the RR engine and transmission, install an LS type SBC and carry on.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's been sitting so long that even the patina has come loose.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:58 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:15:14 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> https://youarecurrent.com/2015/10/20/still-rolling-bentley-dealership-finds-niche-in-zionsville/
>
> There is something wrong with that article! It says,
>
> When Hermann died at age 62 in October 2002,
>
> That means Hermann was born in 1940.
>
> Greg, 53,
>
> That means Greg was born in 1949, when Hermann was 9.
>
> and brother, Mark, 50, took over running Bentley Zionsville
>
> That means Mark was born in 1952, when Hermann was 12.
>
> That allowed the mechanic to found Albers Rolls-Royce in 1963 as
> a service garage and later develop a solid luxury car business.
>
> That means Hermann founded Albers Rolls-Royce when he was 23.
>
>
> > The one thing that always fascinated me at the time was that whenever
> > he (re)installed a fastener, he made a paint mark on it to identify if
> > anyone tampered with the fastener. Sort of like how you use that red
> > glyptal stuff to “seal” the little surface mount trimmer pots on a
> > circuit board.
>
> I have seen that red glyptal stuff on trimmers.
>
> I also saw, when looking under my brand-new 1972 220D/8, yellow paint
> marks on bolts/nuts all over, particularly on the components of the
> driveshaft, like the bolts and nuts on the rubber donuts.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Widow Is Coming To Grips...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I don’t know. I’m not about to take a screwdriver to the neck like you nearly 
did. Maybe a crucifix? Yikes! And the funny part is that I’ve spoken with his 
coworkers from the City and they all talked about what a great guy he was. 
Maybe he was off his meds that day? Also - as long as we’ve been here I think 
I’ve seen maybe one or two people turn around in the driveway. I’m not sure why 
anyone would, as they would have to be moving slow enough to see it, and it’s 
imposingly steep.

I don’t think he is a religious wacko like this woman is. Icing on the cake: I 
checked her out and she is either a psychologist or psychiatrist. One of those 
as I recall. After understanding her behavior (sort of) was able to easily 
re-engage with a sock puppet account by peppering my speech with various 
Judeo-Christian references such as “God Bless”, “Good Lord!” and so on. She was 
my next new buddy after that. I disengaged gracefully so that I still have that 
conduit should I want to reach out.

She is such a wacko that I have to believe she’s either alienated, frightened, 
or blown off nearly anyone and everyone who has reached out to her through the 
ad. I also believe that the car has probably been sitting since her partner 
cacked and it’s not in good shape as a result. Think M119 x 2, sort of. The 
youngest would love it. To this day he still misses Tarek's S500 coupe.

-D


> On Feb 15, 2024, at 11:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is she on par with the P.O. of your AZ home? 
> That guy was a wack job.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2024, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No soup for you!
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 11:31 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You would think, but that tan colour doesn’t photograph well for some
>>> reason. I’ve seen several instances where it ends up looking weirdly
>>> different from everything around it. That’s the case here, as I’ve verified
>>> with the owner that the seats are, in fact, the same colour as the rest of
>>> the interior.
>>> 
>>> I’ve spoken to the owner several times over the past year. She’s weirdly
>>> religious, as in she infuses it into nearly everything she says, someone
>>> who I would refer to as “running at a different frequency” than the rest of
>>> us. Nice lady, just a little quirky, sort of. If you approach her and
>>> somehow don’t sit well with her, she cuts you off and you’re done.
>>> 
>>> I tried engaging with her when the car was first listed and doing no more
>>> than asking about the front seat colour, she cut me off. I’ve gone back to
>>> her in subsequent listings using sock puppet accounts to try and gather
>>> additional information.
>>> 
>>> I suspect her behavior, rather than the price of the car, is what’s
>>> causing her diffculty in selling it.
>>> 
>>> I’m sort of half interested if it could get to a more reasonable (for me)
>>> price. A nearly 30 year old M120 that’s been sitting for a least a year
>>> will not be fun or cheap to resurrect.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Feb 15, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 On 15/02/2024 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> …with the understanding that her husband’s S600 wasn’t worth as much as
>>> he said…
> 
> <
>>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
 
> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - craigslist<
>>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
 
> orlando.craigslist.org<
>>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/apopka-mercedes-benz-s600/7717857124.html
 
> 
> I think the original ask about a year ago was $10k. Floyd, think I
>>> should take my rosary and $4k and see how she reacts?
> 
> -D
 
 Seats appear to be the wrong colour.
 
 Randy
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. The Fastest Possible Way to Spend/Lose Money

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:15:14 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> https://youarecurrent.com/2015/10/20/still-rolling-bentley-dealership-finds-niche-in-zionsville/

There is something wrong with that article! It says,

When Hermann died at age 62 in October 2002,

That means Hermann was born in 1940.

Greg, 53,

That means Greg was born in 1949, when Hermann was 9.

and brother, Mark, 50, took over running Bentley Zionsville

That means Mark was born in 1952, when Hermann was 12.

That allowed the mechanic to found Albers Rolls-Royce in 1963 as
a service garage and later develop a solid luxury car business.

That means Hermann founded Albers Rolls-Royce when he was 23.


> The one thing that always fascinated me at the time was that whenever
> he (re)installed a fastener, he made a paint mark on it to identify if
> anyone tampered with the fastener. Sort of like how you use that red
> glyptal stuff to “seal” the little surface mount trimmer pots on a
> circuit board.

I have seen that red glyptal stuff on trimmers.

I also saw, when looking under my brand-new 1972 220D/8, yellow paint
marks on bolts/nuts all over, particularly on the components of the
driveshaft, like the bolts and nuts on the rubber donuts.


Craig

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[MBZ] 2005 S500 - 102k miles - $4,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Might be a good deal?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2005-mercedes-benz/7718027253.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Taco Tuesday?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Funny you should mention it, I made goose tacos today: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GkjifDDb7FXeu3iJ9

The meat went into the crock pot at 8am on the 10 hour setting with a barbacoa 
spice packet. I turned then at the 4 hour mark and pulled at 9 hours.

It shredded up nice: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NVSHvWtwDoQXHfia6

I thought it was a little bland so I added 2 teaspoons of fajita spice.

This was my third try at this. Goose legs are REALLY tough, they need all the 
time and they MUST be covered in braising liquid

No pictures of the actual tacos but they went down pretty good.

-Curt


On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:54:24 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I had to share:



-D
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 S500 - 102k miles - $4,500

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Considering how much the car was worth when it rolls out of the showroom 20
years ago, this is a steal.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 8:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Might be a good deal?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2014 GLK250 Bluetec - 143k miles - $9,900

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I would buy that car if I knew it had blind spot assist and a Carfax
report. Plus a second key.

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> Pretty bland color scheme.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Very rare car Imported from Germany - 1983 280SL - 73k miles - $18, 000

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equipped with real leather rather than Mercedes Benz textile 

--FT
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> On Feb 15, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> "The car has “rumble seats” in the back which means 4 people can sit in this 
> car"
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[MBZ] good car I will take any offers

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Some model of Mercedes, can't be bothered to tell you which one, but everything 
works.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-mercedes-benz/7717972737.html
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[MBZ] 2014 GLK250 Bluetec - 143k miles - $9,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Pretty bland color scheme.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/plainfield-2014-mercedes-benz-bluetec/7718047509.html
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[MBZ] Very rare car Imported from Germany - 1983 280SL - 73k miles - $18, 000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"The car has “rumble seats” in the back which means 4 people can sit in this 
car"

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/lake-bluff-1983-mercedes-280sl/7718104791.html
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Re: [MBZ] good car I will take any offers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

By the time I paged through to the last photo I was sound asleep.

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> everything works.
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