Re: [meteorite-list] american meteorite museum mets and labels )AD)
BWAAA H HA!!! - Original Message - From: steve arnold chicagosteve1...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] american meteorite museum mets and labels )AD) Hi list. does anyone have any american meteorite museum meteorites with the AMM label forsale for under $300? Let me know off list. -- Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Polygraph testing legality
Polygraph instruments are not meant to read your mind. They only measure changes to the autonomic nervous system (BP, galvinic skin response, heart rate, etc.). When properly calibrated, the instrument does exactly that. You can't beat a peoperly calibrated polygraph instrument. You can, however, beat/fool the examiner and as Rob already stated, there are instances of pathological liars defeating the exam. Their autonomic nervous system doesn't respond like the norm and therefore deception is not indicated during the exam questioning. Merry Christmas everyone! Dave - Original Message - From: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com To: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Polygraph testing legality Rob, There are a few exceptions to the polygraph prohibition. The National Academy of Sciences called the tests unreliable, unscientific and biased. I don't believe that a machine can read your mind based on your blood pressure, pulse and respiration rates. I wouldn't think too many scientists would believe that. If a machine can really read your mind, then why bother with a trial? Phil Whitmer - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Polygraph testing legality Phil wrote: Polygraph testing of employees is against federal law according to the Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA). Tell that to anyone who works for the CIA, NSA, NRO or any defense contractor on a special-access-required program. ;-) Just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure lie detector tests are pure psuedo-science hokem designed to scare perps into confessing. Under proper conditions, they work quite well against most people. But they can be defeated by pathological liars. --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Actually, it looks more like a freeze-dried arabica. Dave - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Hi Count Guido I was wondering if it was really a Portuguese name or error or inside joke for Canyon Diablo, but it sure looks like an authentic iron Chingazo now, Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: valparint valpar...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 10:11 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Chingaso Diablo How many Listees know what that says in Mexican slang? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: valpar...@aol.com Sent: Oct 31, 2011 4:00 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Chingaso Diablo http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Collateral Damage.
Nice ideas Gary, but unfortunately, you're talknig about TV. TV is about making money and while you and others might like to see more of the scientific side of meteorite hunting/collecting, it doesn't sell to the masses. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; i...@imcamail.de Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Collateral Damage. Not good. My take on the Meteorite Men television show is that there is far too much emphasis on the monetary value of meteorites, and too little on the scientific importance. There is sooo much to be learned on so many levels regarding these wonderful rocks from space, that the program could carve a respectable niche within a populace of men, women and children yearning for knowledge of meteorites and meteoritical science. Instead, the producers appear to be pandering to the lowest common denominator in the quest for ratings, and the results are unquestionably apparent from the flood of bogus meteorites on ebay to the solicitors of slag that the Count has encountered. Sad. Although I don't blame Steve and Geoff for this situation, I do hope that they can inspire their producers and sponsors to take the high road toward intelligent network programming. gary On Jul 2, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Count Deiro wrote: Hello to all, May I share an experience I had yesterday afternoon that saddened me and left me questioning the merits of sensationalizing the trade in meteorites. I recently began inserting a free announcement in a nationally read online list stating simply that I BUY METEORITES. Included in the announcement are some simple qualifying tests that I hope will weed out most of the wrongs. I advise that if it turns out that you have a meteorite I will charge you $25.00 for the initial examination and I will help you get it confirmed and classified if you wish. If the find is terrestrial I will not charge any fee and I will suggest you get a second opinion. Well, this has worked out pretty well. I've had a half dozen calls in the last six weeks and several of those have resulted in finds. One particular 100 gram individual has already been classified as a rare type and I was able to secure a nice slice for my collection. Then this happened. I received a call from a young woman who said she was in a neighboring State and had traded all she had for over a hundred pounds of irons and wanted to know how much were they going for. She used a few meteoritical terms to proudly describe her acquisitions, but I could tell she had gotten whatever she had learned from whatever source a bit wrong. She talked fast and excitedly saying her meteorites were really heavy and magnetic. She insisted she had studied and knew they were meteorites. All of them. She went on to say that she had sold her fifth wheel trailer in Quartsite, Arizona and the man who bought it was a rock dealer and had suggested she trade everything in the travel trailer for these meteorites. She now wanted to cash in and would I be interested. She said she would meet me in a few days, but low and behold she arrived the next afternoon. Now picture this. It was 112 degrees when she and her husband and five kids, ages three months to thirteen, arrive in a beat up Chevy truck with all their possessions stacked up in the back. And no air conditioning. After I dispensed bottles of water and got the tribe into the shade, she excitedly announced let's look at the meteorites and ordered her quiet and unassuming husband to lug the boxes and briefcases out from under the stroller and baby food into my garage. The instant the first of the samples were lovingly laid out on my bench it was apparent to me they were terrestrial rocks. She had at least fifty pounds of slag and even large and small chunks of basalt and sandstone. She picked up the rocks one after the other for me to admire while all the while chattering inanely about how they were stony iron or irons and pointing out features to prove her identification and get me interested. I finally stopped her selling pitch by recommending we cut a few. I cut a dozen of the best prospects which all turned out to be terrestrial. I decided I would have to tell her as tactfully as I could. I went and selected some rights and wrongs from my collection and proceeded to teach a little meteorite identification 101. It didn't take long for her to realize that she didn't have any meteorites. I told her how sorry I was, and that I wanted her to have meteorites, and would have been pleased to do business with her. But it unfortunately wasn't the case. She and her husband looked stricken. She said I gave everything we had. I mentioned that she should not take my opinion and get a second opinion. I suggested some other collectors and dealers. I also gave her the
Re: [meteorite-list] We are Streaming Live!
Many thanks to Ruben for broadcasting the Birthday Bash. It was the next best thing to actually being there. A big Happy Birthday to Geoff and Steve. May you both have many, many more. Regards, Dave Carothers - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] We are Streaming Live! Hi all, We are here early making sure everything is working for tonights Birthday Bash and Harvey Awards. Come join us as we will be live until the end. We're here for the duration! Come in watch and chat! http://www.mr-meteorite.net/livevideofeed.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) 4.8 gram fragment new orleans HAMMER
Wow!!! Deja vu. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) 4.8 gram fragment new orleans HAMMER Hi list.I hope everyone is having a good new year.I am.Down 17 lbs. since the 2nd and I have a piece to sell.It's a 4.8 gram fragment of the 2003 fall NEW ORLEANS. This is a rare one to find especially in this size these days. $300 will take it home with free shipping. It has the hupe provenance.Remember this is a Hammer stone.Have a great day,sorry I'll miss you in tucson,but hopefully I'll be back next year. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold and Steve Arnnold
You forgot to add that historically, Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men fame was well known before his TV series and was known as Steve Arnold number 1. Chicago Steve was always known as number 2. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold and Steve Arnnold Hi all, It is surprising how often, even to this day, some list members Confuse Meteorite Men Steve Arnold and Chicago Steve Steve Arnold. Well, I am putting together a book (PDF format only) of all my METEORITE MARKET TRENDS articles since 1997 (Voyage!) through 2010. Well, I just am now working on the March, 2003 article reporting On the 2003 Tucson Show and found a still active link of a photo I took that dramatically illustrates the two different individuals with the same name. See below: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1063396649035542431pDVaVP Any questions? This should clear it up. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geotagging
I don't recall this subject having been posted before. My apologies if it is redundant. Imagine you've just found a new strewn field and want to keep the location secret for a while. Still, you take a digital photo of one of your new space rocks with your GPS-enabled smartphone and post it on the Internet to display your new find. Without realizing it, you have potentially just broadcast the location of your find to the entire world. Those of you who are not familiar with the term geotagging, might want to read on. Geotagging is a process of adding geographical identification to photographs, video, websites and SMS messages. It is the equivalent of adding a 10-digit grid coordinate to everything you post on the internet. Geotags are automatically embedded in pictures taken by smartphones with built-in GPS (if that function is enabled). Digital photos have used geotagging for quite some time. Certain formats like the JPEG format allow geographical information to be embedded within the image and then read by picture viewers, showing the exact location where a picture was taken. Google geotagging for more information on the subject. If you want to avoid displaying too much information from your digital pics, disable the geotagging function on your smartphone. I hope you find the information useful. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - October 28, 2010
A very nice find. Congratulations, Greg. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - October 28, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/October_28_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] more meteorites (AD)
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] more meteorites (AD) Hi again list. I forgot.I have a 7 gram stone meteorite thats unclassified that has a small hole thru it.That is $70. And I have a 33 gram completely fusion crusted unclassified stone that is to die for. $75.Sorry I did not mention before. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) EBAY AUCTIONS
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) EBAY AUCTIONS Hi list.Just a heads up. All my auctions are ending tonight and tomorrow.All with buy it nows and best offers.Also dont forget free shipping.Thanks and have a good night. http://shop.ebay.com/illinoismeteorites Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold
Yes, IF you truely did have surgery for skin cancer and this is NOT one of your famous cons, then I to wish you a speedy and full recovery. Dave - Original Message - From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold I second thatget well soon Steve. Kirk - Original Message - From: metorma...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold I wish you a speedy recovery from your surgery.Get well soon. Best Regards;Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) ebay auctions, buy it now, best offers and 10% off
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) ebay auctions, buy it now,best offers and 10% off Hi list.I have 13 ongoing auctions with all buy it nows and best offers to boot.Plus I'll take off 10% as well if given decent best offers plus free shipping. These all must go.Have a great night all as I recover from skin cancer surgery. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Remembering Jim Kriegh (+ October10, 2007)
Amen! - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Remembering Jim Kriegh (+ October10, 2007) Hello Jim, For heaven's sake, how time flies! It's been three years now that you are gone! Be assured that you are not forgotten nor ever will! Where would all the hundreds of Gold Basin meteorites be today Without your, Twink's, and John's meticulous field studies? Where would those be that now walk in your footsteps? Would Franconia ever have been searched? We wish you all the best up there, So far away and yet so near! The MetList Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers Hi list.I am willing to make trades or reasonable offers on all my ebay items.Please off list. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 25% OFF EBAY ITEMS (AD)
No Thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] 25% OFF EBAY ITEMS (AD) Hi again list. I am willing to take 25% off all ebay items right now if interested.Please let me offlist if interested.All under ILLINOISMETEORITES. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) EBAY AUCTIONS
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) EBAY AUCTIONS Good afternoon list. I have 15 ebay auction ongoing. A few rarities,some not so rare,but all with buy it nows and free shipping anywhere. Someday I'll figure out how to link the ebay to this message. Auctions are under ILLINOISMETEORITES. Thanks and have a great day. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Collect Civil War Minnnie Balls Musket Balls (125+) Collect Computer Viruses/Trojan Horses/Worms (154,000+) SCUBA Diving Underwater Archaeology Genealogy Collect Meteorites (540+) Dave - Original Message - From: Tom Randall (KB2SMS) tommy2...@hvc.rr.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies? In no particular order: Fresh water aquaria R/C electric planes Music (many years ago drums, now electric guitar) Gardening (indoors and out) Astronomy --- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. http://home.roadrunner.com/~kb2sms/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
It wouldn't be practical to melt meteorites to make musket balls. That's not to say that iron meteorites couldn't be used as ammunition just as they are. The blunderbuss had a large enough bore and muzzle to accpt smaller meteorites as is. In fact it wasn't uncommon for users of the blunderbuss to load it with rocks, nails, and anythnig else that happened to be around. Same with canons. Dave - Original Message - From: countde...@earthlink.net To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition Bill says ...just about any firearm. Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat balls made of meteorite material, or anything else for that matter. It wouldn't surprise me if we learned that some enterprising conquistador had heated up some Campo and used the balls in his matchlock..or a canon. Does anyone care to expound on what temp one would have to heat an iron meteorite to be able to pour the melt into a mold to make a musket ball? Could different classes of irons have different melt temperatures? Would inclusions be easily seperated? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM To: meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition Projectiles made from meteoric iron and it's related inclusions would destroy the barrel of just about any firearm. Bill Hi Count and List, I wonder, has anyone ever fashioned bullets out of iron meteorites? Best regards, MikeG On 7/27/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net countdeiro at earthlink.net wrote: Attention List! meteoritem...@gmail.com Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites and a reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains indoors. http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
I never saw the movie, but there are plenty of historical references to cannoneers using scrap of all kinds (metal, glass, rocks, gravel, lengths of chain, etc.). The common commercially-made equivalent ammunition was grapeshot and canister rounds. Getting hit with grapeshot or a canister round would definitely make your eyes water. Dave - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net To: dave carothers carother...@gmail.com; countde...@earthlink.net; bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition Wasn't there a scene in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where the dudes shoved a bunch of metallic objects into the canon and fired it at the opposing ship hitting one of the more hapless pirates in his wooden eye with a fork! - Original Message - From: dave carothers carother...@gmail.com To: countde...@earthlink.net; bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition It wouldn't be practical to melt meteorites to make musket balls. That's not to say that iron meteorites couldn't be used as ammunition just as they are. The blunderbuss had a large enough bore and muzzle to accpt smaller meteorites as is. In fact it wasn't uncommon for users of the blunderbuss to load it with rocks, nails, and anythnig else that happened to be around. Same with canons. Dave - Original Message - From: countde...@earthlink.net To: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition Bill says ...just about any firearm. Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat balls made of meteorite material, or anything else for that matter. It wouldn't surprise me if we learned that some enterprising conquistador had heated up some Campo and used the balls in his matchlock..or a canon. Does anyone care to expound on what temp one would have to heat an iron meteorite to be able to pour the melt into a mold to make a musket ball? Could different classes of irons have different melt temperatures? Would inclusions be easily seperated? Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM To: meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition Projectiles made from meteoric iron and it's related inclusions would destroy the barrel of just about any firearm. Bill Hi Count and List, I wonder, has anyone ever fashioned bullets out of iron meteorites? Best regards, MikeG On 7/27/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net countdeiro at earthlink.net wrote: Attention List! meteoritem...@gmail.com Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites and a reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains indoors. http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3032 - Release Date: 07/27/10 14:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinions please
Helpful hint in the description it states ...which we think is a meteorite Is it a meteorite? IMHO, highly unlikely. Buyer beware! Dave - Original Message - From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Opinions please Hello list, I am concerned as to why no picture of the broken end of this specimen is available and the fact that it's described as non magnetic. http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-Estate-Sale-Beautiful-Specimen-845g-/310231263035?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item483b39673b Have a great weekend everyone! Warren Sansoucie IMCA #3174 St. Louis MO Useless factoid ; In 1779, July 4 fell on a Sunday. The holiday was celebrated on Monday, July 5. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Last Night I sold My 25, 000 Meteorite Specimen!
Congratulations Mike. 34 of your 25,000 are in my collection. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: michael cottingham voyagebotan...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Last Night I sold My 25,000 Meteorite Specimen! Hello All... Not that this means much in the scheme of thingsbut as far as my business goes it is pretty amazing. Last night my ebay auctions concluded for the week and I sold my 25,000th meteorite. I keep fairly accurate records and the number of 25,000 is for meteorite specimens that have a collection card with them. Some other interesting tidbits... I started selling in 1997. I was the third person to start selling meteorites on ebay. I have never had a personal website (Unless you count my ebay store). Now, my question is WHERE ARE ALL THOSE SPECIMENS NOW? Best Wishes Michael _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston?
Let's do something different for a change and name it Bob. Dave - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: meteorh...@aol.com; Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston? It can be named after a geological feature too. It's not uncommon in Australia where you can be hundreds of kilometers from anywhere! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston? Specimens have been found in two counties, so a county name might not work. Miffin might be cool, but there is no Post Office there. Maybe Mineral Point, WI? Steve Arnold Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:40:21 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Livingston? I see everybody starting to call this fall Livingston... but this is not likely to be accepted as the name since there are already meteorites named Livingston (Montana) and Livingston (Tennessee). Jeff -- Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pronunciation of L'aigle
See: http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=sikhote-alin Dave - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pronunciation of L'aigle L'aigle is an easy one. * aigle * is the eagle in English but let's talk about its pronunciation: Well...while we are at it, how do you pronounce Sikhote-alin ? You can't begin to imagine how I was pronouncing it until I heard someone actually say it aloud about a month ago. Figured it had to be right because it was easier to get thru the lips. I now understand it to be pronounced like this...Sid-coat-e-a-lean. That's from the point of view of english speaking people. Am I close or am I still off? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: meteorite fire sale
Hardley his main collection as he put it. A bunch on primarily unclassified specimens he bought recently. - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: meteorite fire sale Well, it has been a month since he left Tucson. g Linton - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: meteorite fire sale On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:34:43 -0700, you wrote: Hello and good day all. I am posting this email for Chicago Steve Arnold. Time for the quarterly going out of business sale already? Wow, how time flies. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Season Finale Tonight
Good show, Guys. Dave - Original Message - From: Notkin geok...@notkin.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Season Finale Tonight Yikes! I forgot to mention that our good friend Darryl Pitt is expected to make a cameo appearance in tonight's episode. I haven't seen the final cut so I don't know for sure, but that's the rumor : ) Thanks for being such a good sport when we were filming, Darryl. I know you were busy that day and kindly hung around so we could get the shot. Anyway, I have a party to go to : ) Best to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Non magnetic meteorites
Ken You ask: Can anyone explain this dogged type thinking? That the owner's rock HAS TO BE a meteorite despite the fact that every expert contacted has told them differently. I just don't understand the thinking but I want to. I can only reply that people who think like this have rocks in their heads. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Non magnetic meteorites Perhaps many meteorwrongs actually were meteorites! I seem to encounter misguided individuals who tenuously believe such dribble on regular basis. Russell T Wing is the exemplar of meteorwrong 'wingnuts' just as Harvey Nininger is to meteorite enthusiasts. Here is an example from Wing's book:This entire experience seemed incredible and unbelievable. How could a small collection of stones - not over 100 - and over half of them picked up out of my rock garden in 1969, produce 25 earth-type quartz meteorites when never before had a quartz meteorite been known! ... But in this investigation, the unthinkable thing seems to be the common thing. And again, after thinking things over, my unbelievable collection of quartz meteorites needed to balance it off; they simply could not be alone. There must also be many other kinds of meteorites here if my quartz ones were authentic. And Wing goes on to 'discover' 'authentic' meteoritic petrified wood and meteoritic fossils, etc. The wingstars were everywhere! All you have to do is look! Yikes! Can anyone explain this dogged type thinking? That the owner's rock HAS TO BE a meteorite despite the fact that every expert contacted has told them differently. I just don't understand the thinking but I want to. kn On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:12 PM, James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote: On the meteorite men Jeff and Steve showed a meteorite that was non magnetic and seemed to have no iron at all. Anyone know if it had nickel in it? How did they determin it was a meteorite? Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? Could that stone be a wingstar? Wingstars have always interested me because they are oriented and look just like a meteorite but lack ni/fe. Perhaps many meteorwrongs actually were meteorites! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison.....
Wow!!! Everyone's getting high snorting Murchison. Before you know it, the Feds will make it a crime. Dave - Original Message - From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Redfern gredf...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. Hi All, Really excited by all this Murchison talk and new scienceby some strange luck I 'invested' in a 50g lump before Tucson that should arrive in the post (fingers crossed) within the week...can't wait for a sniff! Graham E, UK Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks! So it's true about the aroma of Murchison? I wish I had a piece big enough to smell without actually inhaling it. If I try to sniff my current Murchison, it will fly up my nose. LOL Best regards, MikeG On 2/16/10, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Ha ha! I concur, and must confess that I too love the smell of Murchison in the morning. Sent from Gary's iPhone On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Greg Redfern gredf...@earthlink.net wrote: My pristine Jim Strope 80g Murchison is kept under a bell jar. I LOVE the smell of all the aromatic compounds. Smells like a fine cognac. This meteorite is a joy to behold both visually and by inhaling ;-) Greg -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 16, 2010 6:01 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. I have to agree, this has been an awesome discussion. Murchison is one of my favorite samples in my collection. When information comes out like this, it always adds something even more special to it. Not an ad for me but, if anyone following this does not currently have a sample, Gary has some really nice samples at very good prices on ebay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfujmonQQhtZ-1 Its a must have for collectors, and this recent news just goes to show that the study of this is ongoing. Any other links to information on this meteorite would be great! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. To: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:39 PM Hello Zelimir Murchisionados, highly interesting indeed: thanks so much for informing us about your and your colleagues scientific work and giving us so the feeling of being privileged enough to sit in the very first row. If I understand your approach correct, your non-targeted focus of investigation leads directly to a highly diverse pattern. The last sentence of the abstract reads: This molecular complexity, which provides hints on heteroatoms chronological assembly, suggests that the extraterrestrial chemodiversity is high compared to terrestrial relevant biological- and biogeochemical-driven chemical space. The high level of extraterrestrial chemodiversity vs. the less diverse terrestrial chemical space - could that mean that development of life could depend on a kind of reduction of diversity? Caused by selection (= targetting?)? Life would be essentially linked to a process of picking up elements out of the construction kit? But than it begins to play by combining them? Wouldn't that point to the necessity to make a strong distinction between diversity and complexity? Could that mean that the complexity of terrestrial biological and biochemical space is a result of reduction of (initial) diversity? Perhaps six (crazy) questions too much from a non-natural scientist ... Best regards, Matthias B. - Original Message - From: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] organics in Muchison. Darren, list, The media info Darren is speaking about refers to the research we (a group of scientists) are being conducting since several months on Murchison, namely a non targeted analysis of its extraterrestrial organic contents. In a post I sent by end of last September, I had notified the list of that work by just mentioning the keywords Murchison and organic contant. The paper, that was submitted for publication in due time (right in time for the 40th anniversary of Murchison fall), was just anounced released out of press a couple of hours ago. Here is the reference: PNAS, 107 (7), 2763 -2768 (2010). Abstract can be read here: http://www.pnas.org/content/107/7/2763 More discussions are available through various media press comments (easily found by Googling with keys:
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I too did not have the pleasure of knowing Christian, but he was obviously a kind and wonderful person. A man with many, many friends, he will be missed. My sincere condolences to his family. Rest in Pease, Christian. Dave Carothers - Original Message - On 1/13/2010 2:56 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.
Amen!!! Dave - Original Message - From: MstrEman mstre...@gmail.com To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. Again --I believe this to be a service-- 7 years of repeated misbehavior should show a permanent pattern of un-trustworthiness and and a total failure to become trustworthy--Yet many of you continue to buy from HIM based on HIS word alone that you are getting what you paid for. Many have come forward with accounts of being cheated by Steve. They are the ones that get chastised for creating a disturbance. What is the problem with this picture, Eric? I for one want the list archives replete with the other side of the Jerkle- Hyde Steve Saga so when all the bleeding hearts defense posts are searched the searcher will know the rest of the story. Plus you obviously haven't had to deal with Steve's presence as long as many of us have. Elton PS Using Steve logic-- I never wrote this and you can't prove I did so you can always get the complete truth with each post I make as I am not accountable for my previous statements and this one either I promise I'll never ever harass you or lie to you or cheat you--until next time anyway. Now re-post this theme, semi-daily and see how long it takes to become repugnant. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: What exactly is your point? (rhetorical of course) Who's the one with the problem? The one who apologizes for some of the things they've done, or the one who points out the faults of others and consistently posts negative comments and BS with an obvious prejudice that no one wants to read, and all in all never contributes anything but negativity to the list. Please ,Please--- how could you of all people miss the point so far off mark? Must have taken a while to compile the apologies. What have you contributed to the list that can be deemed the least bit noteworthy or positive beside brash attempts at slamming other on the list? Nothing that I've seen... Another excellent rhetorical question but it is not one any of us asked about our own posts, now is it. But then again I didn't search through 7 years of posts to make my point either... Regards, Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.
Well said. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Dave - Original Message - From: Gary Chase garych...@live.com To: meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free crack. Then after you loose your job, family and end up living on the streat, you realize there is no such thing as a freebie. All freebies come with a price. The question to be asked is what is the price? My integrity? Gary From: geo...@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:34:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. To: garych...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com I would compare the freebies to the neighborhood crack dealer that gives your your first high for free. Now you are hooked. Hooked on what...to receive more freebies? I hope he sends me more then. :O) GeoZay _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco
Howard, Your comment is moronic. This group is as much about posting information to assist newbies as anything else. You should know better. Dave - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco Is anyone else getting tired of this moronic discussion? I laugh at how the newbies expect the veterans with the battle scars to tell them exacty how to Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork. Now lets give this thread a proper burrial and get back to meteorites. Didn't someone actually find something (like a meteorite not an alien) that we can talk about? Howard Steffic Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0800 From: abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: spacewoman2...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco Hello Brian and all, MoneyGram is available in Morocco, and Abdellah is a good person five stars in honesty and trust. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco To: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM Hi Melanie, I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new meteorites. I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some really great and rare meteorites in the group. Have a great day! Brian - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco Hi Brian, listers. Actually it was a postal money order that I mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it included the cost of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail it back to me and he said he did. Once I get the slip back I'm going to get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to him - probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts). At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites (all unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all that I circled some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program similar to MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to him and kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I picked sitting on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the prices until I made the final decition on buying five rocks together weighing 837 grams.. As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him and I thank all here on the list for their input/suggestions! --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! From: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco Hello Melanie and list, In regards to your question of sending payments to Morocco, I have to ask a couple of questions and others also mentioned they weren't clear on your question since you didn't seem to be including shipping costs. I'd like to help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful and kindest way possible, so please don't take it negatively or have any anger towards me. Make sure you include shipping costs when you were determining the total amount of the payment you need to send to the seller and then send a check and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs if that is what you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this in the past about not having money to pay for something or to pay for the shipping costs. It's good to ask for help if you are not experienced in sending payments outside of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided to send a check for the meteorites and then were going to decide about a payment for the shipping as a separate payment or to pay for shipping later on. Is this why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs after you had sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't sound right why you wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller for the items with shipping and or insurance
Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco
Howard, Respectfully... Reference your comment I laugh at how the newbies expect the veterans with the battle scars to tell them exacty how to Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork. Why should it bother YOU that someone should ask for for advice or assistance? Go back through the history of this list and you will see literally thousands of instances where dealers and professional hunters have freely offered advice and assistance to newbies. You don't think people stay on this list for the ads, do you? You don't think people stay on this list for the disputes, cyber fist fights, etc, do you? I personally stay on this list (and I'm sure other do to) so we CAN ask for advice and assistance from the pros. I won't answer as to the motives or rationale of why dealers and professional hunters freely offer advice and assistance to newbies, but suffice to say that I (and I know hundreds, maybe thousands of others over the history of this list) appreciate ALL the assistance offered by ANYONE on this list. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco My point is, and perhaps you can explain why. Any meteorite dealer or professional hunter should teach anybody how be a competitor? Do you think McDonalds would teach you how to run a restaurant? The logic that is used by some of these newbies is what is moronic. I don't hunt or sell but if I did, I wouldn't expect anyone to teach me how to be a competitor. Respectfully yours. Howard Steffic From: carother...@gmail.com To: bencub...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:42:15 -0500 Howard, Your comment is moronic. This group is as much about posting information to assist newbies as anything else. You should know better. Dave - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco Is anyone else getting tired of this moronic discussion? I laugh at how the newbies expect the veterans with the battle scars to tell them exacty how to Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork. Now lets give this thread a proper burrial and get back to meteorites. Didn't someone actually find something (like a meteorite not an alien) that we can talk about? Howard Steffic Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0800 From: abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com To: spacewoman2...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco Hello Brian and all, MoneyGram is available in Morocco, and Abdellah is a good person five stars in honesty and trust. My best Aziz --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco To: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM Hi Melanie, I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new meteorites. I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some really great and rare meteorites in the group. Have a great day! Brian - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada toMorocco Hi Brian, listers. Actually it was a postal money order that I mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it included the cost of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail it back to me and he said he did. Once I get the slip back I'm going to get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to him - probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts). At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites (all unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all that I circled some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program similar to MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to him and kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I picked sitting on the scale to show their
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage
Kevin, Have you called the airline or TSA and asked their advice? Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage I want to bring two iron meteorites, one a Campo of 10 kgs., the other a Gibeon of 4 kgs., to Costa Rica from Miami on American Airlines. I would never check them and take a chance they might disappear. I would carry them on the plane in a small suitcase. Are these prohibited items? How do dealers flying around the planet to shows ship their rocks? Thanks for any and all that have experience with this and respond. Kevin Kichinka __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage
Sorry Kevin and all, Please ignore my last. I just saw Adam's post. It is much more to the point and he obviously has better knowledge of this than I. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: dave carothers carother...@gmail.com To: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage Kevin, Have you called the airline or TSA and asked their advice? Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage I want to bring two iron meteorites, one a Campo of 10 kgs., the other a Gibeon of 4 kgs., to Costa Rica from Miami on American Airlines. I would never check them and take a chance they might disappear. I would carry them on the plane in a small suitcase. Are these prohibited items? How do dealers flying around the planet to shows ship their rocks? Thanks for any and all that have experience with this and respond. Kevin Kichinka __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Self-Pairing = No-No!
Rob, Well said. We can't thank Greg, Adam, Mark, Svend, Mike, Martin and all the other reputable dealers enough for maintaing a high level of integrity in their efforts to bring meteorites to us collectors. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com To: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Self-Pairing = No-No! Greg Wrote I am very passionate about what I do and try to keep it as accurate as possible. When games and fraud is perpetrated by those who do not care about the science or collectors, I get upset and tend to be vocal. If I seem too quick to reply, or type a single word in haste or anger, I apologize to all who are offended by my posts. I think it is important to keep it real, and really keep it honest and accurate! I believe it is part of my responsibility to keep it real and to give notice to those who do not! ___ Rob Says And that's why I have a great deal of respect for you and I'm pretty sure there are plenty of others who feel the same (indeed, I know this for fact) Trust is everything to collectors as we do not have access to our own testing labs and your efforts to maintain integrity in a business where the material is so valuable benefits science and collectors alike. Greed is a powerful motivator. Maybe it is this that causes some dealers to act out of haste. But then maybe it's not. I am fortunate that I do not have the wolves at my door. * I applaud the efforts of those who endeavour to assist science, improve the reliability of data for collectors, especially at their own cost. I find philantropy rather inspiring and the world needs more of it. And if I'm talking out of turn, I'm not sorry. Get over it. I'm standing up for a guy that I believe is doing it the right way. Rob McC * I try to be careful about how I word things. Rearrange the same collection of short sentences this way... I am fortunate that I do not have the wolves at my door. Maybe it is this that causes some dealers to act out of haste. But then maybe it's not. Greed is a powerful motivator. An entirely different mood suggesting all people are fundamentally bad. I prefer my rather naive sounding original. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........
While I did not have the pleasure of knowing Jim, I wish to extend my condolences and sincere sympathies to his family and friends. May he rest in peace. Dave - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note... Hi all, I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend, teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker. Instead he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it. With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be. I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh. http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm -- Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite) Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am
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[meteorite-list] TEST Sorry... Please Delete
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[meteorite-list] One-Complaint Per Week Rule
1) The list was owned, set up, and run by Art. 2) Art establish a one ad per week rule. 3) A vote? It's pointless (see 1 and 2 above) Geez... what's so hard about showing a little respect for Art and living within the rules he established? Personally, I respect those sellers that abide by the rules and I'm inclined to buy from them as opposed to those who do not. If you can't follow a simple rule in a list, I would alsways worry about the conditions of any sale. My opinion. Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due
I agree. As a community, we are blessed with a large number of sellers and professional dealers that provide outstanding service to us all. We don't say it often enough, so let me add a few more names to the list from the folks I've done business with in the past. THANK YOU Adam, Greg, Mark, Mike, Marcin, Geoff, Eric, Mirko, Carsten, Eric, Jim, Bernhard, Wayne, McCartney, Bob, Mike, Sergey, Siegfried, Andreas, Martin, Pierre-Marie, Anne, Dean, Ruben, Hanno, Doug, Robert, Svend, Dirk, and Steve#1 for your honesty, integrity, and for providing us with so many beautiful specimens to add to our collections. Dave - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee sdunklee72...@yahoo.com To: 'Richard Kowalski' damoc...@yahoo.com; 'meteorite list' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; c...@bitsofearth.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due Many other dealers also deserve praise. The Hupes and Marcin Cimala for example take the gretest care in sample preparation, not to forget Notkin and others too many to list. so a great thanks to all., Steve Dunklee --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Bits Of Earth c...@bitsofearth.com wrote: From: Bits Of Earth c...@bitsofearth.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due To: 'Richard Kowalski' damoc...@yahoo.com, 'meteorite list' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:03 PM I most definitely agree 100%. Erik Twelker helped me a while back to pick out/buy a very special meteorite (to me) and was THE definition of first class service. Still have the meteorite to this day. You will get nothing but the best from him. Jaime Kelly www.bitsofearth.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:56 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due I know that most businesses never hear anything but complaints, and I've expressed my share on this list too. I just want to let everyone know of a dealer going above and beyond, WAY above, and offer some praise here instead of complaint. I ordered a small slice of Gujba, just a couple of grams, for my type set from Eric Twelker a short while ago. When it hadn't arrived, I inquired if it had been sent and when, just to make sure it hadn't gotten lost in the mail. He responded quickly that he was away but would check on it as soon as he returned home. Finding he had made a mistake, he apologized that he hadn't yet sent it and said it'd be on its way that day. That was on Saturday. I just went out to the mailbox to find my slice already delivered with $21+ postage on the envelope! I'm still shocked. Totally unexpected and in my case, unnecessary. He could have sent it via normal 1st class mail and I would have been happy with that, but he made the extra effort and loss of profit to make a very small mistake in mind very much more than right. Eric's website http://www.meteoritemarket.com/mmhomef.htm -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090921-0, 09/21/2009 Tested on: 9/21/2009 4:04:56 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090921-0, 09/21/2009 Tested on: 9/21/2009 7:03:19 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men the Series
Carl, Take it offline, please. Dave - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net; meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men the Series Greg, I am truly sorry if I mistook you for your brother about NWA 5000. I do know that you are guilty of attacking me many times on this list. I know we have never met and so I have always wondered why you have attacked me. You stated this thread with your negative remarks not me. So, I will leave you alone if you do the same. It is rumored that Farmer was removed from this list for libeling Steve and you have left a bad taste about me on this list. Again, I do not know why? But your comment about me walking South is a little less than subtle as well. Is that a racist remark because my name is Esparza?? My family has lived here for four generations and where I live once was Mexico. BTW, Icebrgs would be found closer if I walk north. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: Again Carl, You have no clue. I DO NOT have NWA 5000, my brother does! Who did I Libel? No One! Look up the meaning of the word before you go around spouting off again. You say and do things behind the scenes that are not true and not good. Yes, You know what I mean!!! Carl, just go away, leave me alone, do not say any more garbage about me behind the scenes that are untrue (speaking of Libel). Maybe a nice long walk south, all the way south, will do you some good! It may cool you off once you reach an iceberg or two! You are a waste of time here. I will not waste any more of it on your nonsense! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men the Series Greg, list, OMG. Sorry about this but There he goes again, Attacking . I most certainly DO NOT know what he means? I have done nothing wrong. These comments border on if not reek of Libel. I think libel is reason to be removed from this list. Hint hint. Even when somebody does something positive you turn it into a negative. The Porthole design is NWA 5000 display that you acussed Lang (I think) of plagiarizing for his meteorite display on this very list so, you cannot deny it. . I think some Sub engineers are ahead of you on the origin of this design. . Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: Carl, First, I am not looking for fans and press! I do what I do because I enjoy it, and yes, that means meteorites and most aspects about them. I say most, because like all things, there are negatives to everything. I think You are one of these negatives that I need not get into here, You know what I mean! As for some of your comments, I do not know what you mean about a porthole design, you are thinking of someone else. You say you would like to continue Steve and Geoff's positive theme, Good, now go do it instead of your behind the scenes Negative acts you do. You know what I mean! I think that the majority of the List Members do Not want you to speak for them. There are many who know about your behind the scenes antics and negativity. You know what I mean! I do not know what you mean by stating, We no longer have Bob Haag...??? He is alive and well, AND promotes meteorites positively every day!! You Do Not know what I mean! Carl, I wish you the best in joining Steve and Geoff! That should add an interesting twist to their show! I apologize to the List Members for these Carl Esparza emails, he has gotten out of hand, and He knows what I mean! With that, I think I will get back to the nothing I do for meteoritics... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men the Series Greg, You crack me up. How can you insult me and then sign off with; Best regards, Greg . I'm sorry that you don't ever do anything to generate your own pool of fans, But The Meteorite Men Do!. Unlike all of your posts, they are constantly promoting this hobby with a super positive and enthusiastic influence. I am
Re: [meteorite-list] More eBay cancelled auctions
Don, Thanks for the info. EBay seller pat31416 aka Pat Mulvany is now on my Do Not Buy list. Dave - Original Message - From: Don Edwards iceda...@swbell.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] More eBay cancelled auctions Hello everyone, I've just had an auction I was bidding on cancelled a few hours before it was to close. eBay seller pat31416 (name on a shown label Pat Mulvany) had listed two small fragments of meteorite oxide from the Lanton meteorite. The auctions were listed with starting bids of $.99. (note: he is NOT a member of the IMCA.) A few hours before the auctions were to close at about 7PM Saturday evening, they were both cancelled. The one I was bidding on still had a high bid showing of $.99; there was no bid on the other auction. A few hours after they were cancelled, both were re-listed and this time with a starting bid of $10.00 (one of the item numbers is 330356143296) As I remember from an earlier thread, FleaBay does not care if a seller breaks his/her implied contract by cancelling an auction (I could be wrong). I definitely can NOT prove it, but by circumstantial evidence, it *appears* that Mr. Mulvany did not want to sell a specimen for just $.99 so he just cancelled the auction(s). Even though my high bid on the earlier item was higher than the new starting price, I choose NOT to deal with this seller and will not bid on these items or any others of his. Don Edwards Houston, TX __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Requesting Beta Testers for New ebay Page onmeteorite.com
Paul, Great work This page is much needed as a means of pointing people to reputable eBay sellers of meteorites. It will at least cull out some of the undesireable sellers. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Paul Harris p...@meteorite.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Requesting Beta Testers for New ebay Page onmeteorite.com Hello Everyone, The wife and kids were out of town this weekend so I completed an ebay project I've been working on for a while. This new ebay page is not linked from meteorite.com yet as I'm in the beta test phase. The link is easy to remember as all you have to do is add /ebay after www.meteorite.com http://www.meteorite.com/ebay/ I would very much appreciate if some of you would kick the tires of this new page. Quite a while ago there was some good constructive comments made about our original page and I've tried to build this new page to address everything mentioned and more. If you like the page and wish to be added please reply back with your full name and ebay account name. The only requirement is that you be in good standings with the members of the meteorite-list and the IMCA. You do not have to be a member of the IMCA but if you were a IMCA member and your membership was revoked then you are not eligible. Most everything on the page should be easy to understand. One thing I will mention is the ebay Sellers last update time stamp. Part of the code I wrote polls the listed sellers to see how many auctions they are currently running. The time stamp represents the last time this routine was run. Therefore the number of listings I show may be off from the true number by about a 15 to 30 minute time span. Hope you like the new ebay page and find it useful. Paul http://www.meteorite.com/ebay/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - material from the 2008TC3 Asteroid, availability of the meteorite Almahata Sitta Ureilite-an
If you don't read German, like me, we'll have to wait for an English page. Dave - Original Message - From: Stephan Kambach stephan.kamb...@freenet.de To: Meteoritenliste meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - material from the 2008TC3 Asteroid,availability of the meteorite Almahata Sitta Ureilite-an Hello List A friend of my, Siegfried Haberer, prospector and dealer in meteorites asked my to make for him an advertisment to the list: According to the information that he told me regarding the meteorite, in my opinion I can say - its a real exclusive breathtaking fantastic offer... Material from the Asteroid 2008TC3 or also known by the name Almahata Sitta; Sudan. An anomalous Ureilite. If you have any interest and questions regarding this meteorite you can contact him via mail : siegfr...@haberer-meteorite.deor through his webside: http://www.haberer-meteorite.de/deutsch/1024dpi/Asteroid%202008%20tc3/Asteroid%202008%20TC3.html Regards, Stephan Kambach __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITEHUNTER OUT THERE?
IMHO, it's not just who finds the most. Finding the meteorites is just half of the equation.Documenting the find, adding that information to to the common body of knowledge and contributing to the science of meteoritics is the second half. Dave - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITEHUNTER OUT THERE? Darren, I have to agree. It's a simple matter of statistics, whoever finds the mostest is the bestest! Really, Osama vs. Jesus, that's too funny! You get my vote for the funniest list member! Phil Whitmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question For The List ???? WHO IS THE BEST ANDMOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE?
As you say, your question poses many more questions. To start with, someone who leads expeditions to find new meteorites. Someone who extensively documents their finds and provides said information and samples to the scientific community for further research. Someone, for example, like Dr Svend Buhl. Dave - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question For The List WHO IS THE BEST ANDMOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE? Hello, This is a simple question or is it? How do you determine who is the best and most successful meteorite hunter in the world? I am curious? Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites in situ
Svend, As always, your web site is one of the best for outstanding photos and information relating to meteorites. Thanks for sharing. The pics are awesome. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Meteorite-Recon.com i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites in situ Good evening everybody, Those of you dedicated to the search and recovery of meteorites from hot deserts might be interested in a little feature on some common characteristics of these finds. A number of in situ images are included: Part 1: http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/desert_meteorites_1.htm Part 2: http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/desert_meteorites_2.htm Thanks for your interest. Cheers Svend -- www.meteorite-recon.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton
My sincerest and deepest sympathies to the Norton family. Richard Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You will be remembered. Dave - Original Message - From: impact...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; carionminer...@wanadoo.fr Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Richard Norton Hello List-Members, Late last night I received a very sad email from Dorothy Norton. Richard Norton passed away last week, after a long illness. I had known fot quite some time that Richard was in poor health, still the news of his death came as a shock. Last time I called Dorothy, I heard piano playing in the background, Chopin and very good, I thought it was a CD playing or the radio, but Dorothy told me it was Richard, and we stopped a moment to listen, it was beautiful, I had no idea Richard was such a virtuoso. I had met Richard and Dorothy several years ago in Tucson, Thanks to Twink. I was very much a new comer then , and I found Richard to be bright, friendly, funny and so approchable. I still remember showing him a slice of Tafassasset, he looked at it with his loupe for quite a while, then told me that this meteorite left him speechless. Dorothy laughed, apparently Richard was rarely speechless. And now there is that great big hole in the middle of the Meteorite Community. Please read the obituary written by Dorothy and Joel Schiff: http://www.impactika.com/rnorton.doc I do know that Dorothy reads the List, so feel free to send her a message this way. Or, if you prefer, I'll be glad to relay your private message to her. Thank you. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ **Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for Your Family. Sign Up Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221991367x1201443283/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225819%3B37274678%3Bs% 3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.dinnermadeeasy.com%2F%3FESRC%3D622) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA Moroccans
Well said, Dave. I'd like to add my $0.02 and say that anyone having disagreement with what IMCA does or doesn't do --- 1. Become a member and 2. Run for Office or volunteer your time to make a difference. Dave Carothers IMCA 2052 - Original Message - From: Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com To: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] IMCA Moroccans Hi, All, IMCA is a very young organization, and young organizations, almost by definition, are imperfect. That said, IMCA does more than any other organization to help insure authenticity of marketed meteorites. Note the word help, as they can't do it all and shouldn't be expected to do so. Before taking shots or laughing at IMCA, why not add some value to the debate of what makes for a better international community of meteorite exchange? I am an IMCA member and very much appreciate everything that they do (a handful of members and directors in particular, which is always the case in a large organization). That said, I do not personally agree with everything IMCA does -- and in some cases does not do -- but I've picked up the phone in those cases, spoken with directors, shared some thoughts which were intended to be productive, and supported them in full otherwise. It is impossible for a large group to satisfy the desires of every single member, not to mention, in this case, every collector on the meteorite list. But what say the detractors put in some effort and show up with a better mouse trap before glibly mocking the cheese? It is so easy to throw darts, and yet it takes a lot of effort to affect true, positive change. Lastly re: IMCA, this endless debate re: what constitutes a fair price is out of IMCA's realm and, beyond that, just plain tired. A fair price is what someone is willing to pay, period, so if it's not fair to you then don't pay it and have a nice day. The issue of allegedly dishonest Moroccan dealers also floated to the surface, yet again, in this most recent thread. I've had experience with several of those dealers over the years, and have always found them to be reputable. That is not to say that every transaction has gone smoothly, as from time to time they haven't. But at the end of the day, even when things haven't gone perfectly, it has been my experience that most deals run quite smoothly. And in the event where there is a misunderstanding -- usually emerging from the simple fact that I am unable to speak their native tongue as a second language as they rather effectively communicate in mine -- things tend to get sorted out in the end. Hope all's well over there in NWA, fellas... All best, Dave Gheesling IMCA #5967 www.fallingrocks.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Wire Fraud and SteveArnoldofChicago...wasnwa 1794
AMEN!!! - Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Wire Fraud and SteveArnoldofChicago...wasnwa 1794 Thanks, Bernd. Your words, words of a list-authority, are highly welcome. - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Wire Fraud and Steve ArnoldofChicago...wasnwa 1794 He's not the person who turns people away from the hobby; it's mean-spirited people like you who make others feel unwelcome. His posts have never been derogatory. Ill-conceived, maybe. Lacking foresight, probably in many cases. But malevolent, like yours, never. Jason, for heaven's sake. Please stop such silly talk. I've always considered you an intelligent person who knows what he is talking about but this goes way too far!!! Best from Germany, Bernd To: meteorite...@gmail.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's My Caredition)
Steve, Read the article again. A 66 year old lady confronted two burglers on her property last October. Given that, Sonny and Mike are lucky they only had to pay a $2K fine. They might have been shot. I like and respect Sonny and Mike, but if they didn't ask permission in the first place, they had no business on the pproperty and they only have themselves to blame for the outcome. Regarding the Judge and his Get out of Dodge statement. That's not uncommon. If you've ever seen some of the videos of cops in action, you'll see that they tell suspicious people to get out of neighborhoods all the time. With regards to a land owner failing to give you a reason why you couldn't search his property... what makes you think he has an obligation to do so? It is enough that he owns the land and has said No. With all due respect to you, persuing it further with the man is pretty arrogant. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's My Caredition) List, I haven't talked with either Sonny or Mike yet, but some of this story smells a little fishy. Not that you can believe anything you see or read in the media, as stories seldom get confirmation before deadlines have to be reached, and stories tend to get sensationalized for sales and ratings purposes. After all, the first story just gave the teaser info and for only $28 more you can read the rest of the story on the paper's website. One thing that sticks out in the second story, was that it was reported that Honorable Judge Jerry M. Daniel told the guys to each pay their $2,000 fine then told them to get out of dodge.“ Now, if he actually said that, isn't that a bit strange? I mean, after child molesters pay their debt to society, even they still get to move back into their old communities. Does a judge actually have authority to ban people from an entire county from the bench? Does this imply that meteorite hunters are worse than child molesters? It was mentioned that there often is a good ole boys network that supercedes the rule of law in many places. I would never imply that this might be the case here, but it makes one wonder. Of course, I can understand someone not wanting people on their property. And that is why it is always good to get permission to hunt, and if that permission is in writing, all the better. I had an Aha experience when I was driving with a fellow meteorite hunter at West a couple of weeks ago as we drove up on a land owner and I stopped, got out and introduced myself, and asked for permission to hunt on his ground. The man said quite plainly No. So I asked him Why not? And he could not (or would not) give me a reason. We talked a little more, when I asked him if he was planning to look himself, and he said he was too busy to do it himself. Again, I asked him why I couldn't look. He did not say I don't want you spooking my cattle. Or I don't want the liability if you get hurt. Or I don't want you making money off of something that I would just as soon let rust away. He didn't offer a good reason or even a bad reason for that matter. When it was obvious I wasn't going to get permission, I excused myself and went back to the car to go find another land owner down the road to ask. When I got in the car, my friend asked me: You know why he doesn't want to let you hunt don't you? I said No, why? He stated matter of factly: He didn't want you to find his Marijuana Patch. Aha!!! Of course I don't know if that was the real case, but if it was, it made a lot of sense, and it would explain why he couldn't give me a logical reason on why he didn't want me on his ground. If he had a $500,000 cash crop growing out there, only bad could come out of someone wondering around his land. I am not saying that Sonny and Mike almost stumbled onto a secret garden in Georgia, or that the judge and other law enforcement personnel might have been partners in some Southern Mafia where they would want ALL meteorite hunters to stay out of the ENTIRE county and away from their retirement fund. I am just saying something seems a little fishy with this story. I am sure we will never know the full story. Steve Arnold Arkansas (some day soon I hope I can drop the Arkansas tag for good) **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's My Caredition)
Hi Steve, I'll briefly reply in the same manner... In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:05 PM meteorh...@aol.com writes: Steve said: Were they actually burglars, or were they just knocking on her door asking to use the phone for their broken down car? I am sure they were probably burglars. But my point is, just because a newspaper says something, doesn't make it so. Almost EVERY meteorite story ever published has minor if not major flaws in them. And these are not typically stories where a reporter's bias could be blamed for the bad journalism. Almost ALL journalism is shotty today. I just don't believe anything in print, just because it is in print. Maybe Sonny and Mike are lucky to only have to pay $2,000. Maybe they were unlucky to have to pay $2,000. Yes, they might have been shot. I like and respect Sonny and Mike too. I agree, without asking permission, they did not belong there. *** The point I was making about the landowner and the burglers was to illustrate that Sonny and Mike (or anyone in a similar position) doesn't necessarily know the background or local history of the area and what suspicions and fears may be present, hence, my follow-on about the possibility of their getting shot. The bottom line is I think we all agree that getting permission first in the only way to go. *** Steve said: Thanks for the correction Dave. I think I have only seen the phrase Get the hell out of Dodge in old western movies, usually relating to Dodge City, Kansas. But arrogant law men are slightly different than judges sitting on a bench with a stenographer recording every statement. Besides, is Hollywood's perspective always the way it really happens in life? Of course, IF Mike and Sonny had already made a plea agreement, or simply plead guilty (whether they really were guilty or not) throwing themselves at the mercy of the court, the judge I presume could puff up his chest and say about anything he wanted. And, I don't mean to imply that if either of them were arrested again, and brought before the same judge, that he would not be more strict the second time around. I don't doubt he would throw the book at them. My preface was that this story seemed a bit fishy to me, that is all. Do judges in Georgia run for public election? Re-elect Judge Daniel, he's tough on space crime! might be a good campaign slogan. *** I've worked with the law enforcement community for 12 years and while the vast majority are there to serve the public interest, there are those (police, attorneys, and judges) who abuse their positions to the detriment of the public. In my previous post, I guess I was surprised by the fact that you appeard to find it unusual for such a comment to be made by a judge. *** Steve said: Dave, with all due respect to you, I like to engage people in conversations. Me doing so with that man had nothing to do with me being arrogant. If someone has an objection, in sales one learns to flush out those objections. If you don't know the objections, then how do you overcome them? Often times, people have very valid objections. Other times, they don't. Unless a person comes out with their excuse, or if one asks, it is hard to find out why they object. Granted, people lie. Sometimes they will say they don't want you to hunt because 23 years ago, a fisherman left a gate open and some cows got out. But usually that isn't a valid reason for never letting anyone ever come on their land again. Yes, of course, with private property, people don't have to have a reason. But usually they do have a reason. Unless it is brought out, it is often hard to rationally talk with someone about a solution. [snip] *** I thank you for the detailed explanation, but I still have issue with your idea that a land owner would owe you an explanation other than No when asked to search their property. You state above that Sometimes they will say they don't want you to hunt because 23 years ago, a fisherman left a gate open and some cows got out. But usually that isn't a valid reason for never letting anyone ever come on their land again. That is where the arrogance appears. If someone left a gate open 23 or 50 years ago and the property owner doesn't want anyone else to EVER come on the property again. So be it. You may not like the reason, but who are you to judge the validity of the decision? You also state Often times, people have very valid objections. Other times, they don't. I'll say it again... If you own the property, you have no obligation to explain why you don't want someone on your property and you sure don't have to justify or validate any reason if you decide to provide more than a NO! answer. I agree that conversation is useful, but can you also see that pushing the envelope and pressing soneone for a reason and not to say that you would actually do this, but potentially argue the
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition)
That's a sorry state of affairs, but unfortunately, there are many such stories like this across the US every day. Dave - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's MyCaredition) Regarding the Judge and his Get out of Dodge statement. That's not uncommon. If you've ever seen some of the videos of cops in action, you'll see that they tell suspicious people to get out of neighborhoods all the time. I was once a fireman and many years ago, I recall being on a call for an unconscious person. Well...the guy was faking it. Eventually he realized the jig was up and came clean. He was trying to get arrested so he can spend a week or so in jail to rest up. The story came out that the police dept in Dallas, Texas bought him a bus ticket for southern california. So the California police department bought him another bus ticket for Dallas. :O) GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's My Caredition)
Steve, You asked: So why do you still think that I think he OWES me an explanation? As I stated in my last post, it comes from comments like Often times, people have very valid objections. Other times, they don't. or Sometimes they will say they don't want you to hunt because 23 years ago, a fisherman left a gate open and some cows got out. But usually that isn't a valid reason for never letting anyone ever come on their land again. Another comment you made regarding the issue of asking to search a property was: Granted, people lie. Well, maybe they do, but the point is, so what? It's their property and they don't need to explain past the answer... No. When you say things like the above, in the context of trying to get permission to search a property from a land owner, what is being implied is that 1) the person owes you an explanation and 2) if the person does give you a reason, that reason must somehow be validated as being reasonable by you. I apologize if I'm reading way too much into this, but I've run into a similar situation and maybe that's why I'm sensitive to this. I've had people wanting to buy property from me and they just won't take a simple NO! for an answer. They too want to ask the question Why won't you sell it to us. I'm sorry, but I don't owe them or anyone else an explanation. Even if I did provide an explanation, what then? They try to tell me why I'm wrong and should sell to them. That to me is being arrogant. One last item. I did not, nor would I ever say or imply that you were rude or that your conversations with land owners are contentious or anything like that. From all accounts, you have a stellar (no pun intended) rep. I thank you too for your courteous replies. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: carother...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] -2 arrested update (Dude-- Where's My Caredition) Dave, You said: I thank you for the detailed explanation, but I still have issue with your idea that a land owner would owe you an explanation other than No when asked to search their property. When I clearly stated in my last post: Does he have an obligation to tell me why he said no? Of course not. And did I even imply that he was obligated to? But if you don't ask, often you don't get an answer. * So why do you still think that I think he OWES me an explanation? I don't think he owes me to let me hunt on his land, but I still ask. He didn't owe me an explanation, but I still asked for one. Besides, if someone owes you something, you demand, you don't ask. I didn't demand anything, I just asked. I wasn't rude. He wasn't rude. He didn't kick me off his driveway. He didn't even ask me to leave nor did he end the conversation. We had a short, 3 minute talk, then I left when it was evident he didn't care if meteorites would be lost. Maybe if I offered him $10,000 in exchange for hunting, he might have become interested. Then again, if he had a $500,000 crop out in the trees growing, $10,000 for hunting privileges wouldn't have probably interested him either. I didn't waste his whole day, he was doing some work, and he kept working while I was talking. Now, maybe someone talked with him before I did and offended him in such a way that he was sour to not me personally, but to meteorite hunters in general. That could have been the case. And it was, I would have loved to have found that out. But since he didn't say that, or give any reason, I just don't know. Besides, I ended up hunting on one of his neighbors ground the next day where we found the 1,673g specimen the day before the rains, so maybe it was a blessing that he said No, and that he didn't tell me why, and that I didn't overcome his objections? Then again, I might have changed his mind and I might have found 5 kilo rock on his ground instead. Who knows? It is all water under the bridge, or should I say rocks under the mud now. Steve **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Article Meteorite hunters 'strike gold' in Sudan
Some of you might be interested in the article at: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16843-meteorite-hunters-strike-gold-in-sudan.html Regards, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] final pieces to this sale puzzle
Having been on the list for several years, there's always been a big distinction between the two Steve Arnolds. I for one will always remember Steve Arnold (Chicago) as #2. Best of luck in all your future endeavors, Steve. Dave - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] final pieces to this sale puzzle Hi Steve Arnold number one, I see we have two Steve Arnold number ones now. How will you tell you two apart? I am just joking about your updated sigh-off Steve R.Arnold No#1!,Chicago! Good luck on your new found interests. Best Regards, Adam Hupe #1 --- On Wed, 3/25/09, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] final pieces to this sale puzzle To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:17 PM Hi again list.Last email on this sale.I am at $2 K in sales so far.I added 10 more meteorites to the sale and condenced it to 2 pages again.Also what ever does not sell will then remain here.But just to get your appetite wet,and just a thought so far,I might even bring a few pieces from my other collection.Like murchison,attica,ks,kakangari micro,louisville,ky, pinaroo,western australia,edmonton,canada to name a few.But it will be a few days till I decide on this.Again last email on this sale. Steve R.Arnold No#1!,Chicago! a rel=nofollow/a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] time to move on for good (AD)
Well, the this will be my final post to the list lasted a whole 1 hour and 10 minutes. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] time to move on for good (AD) Hi again list.I put up 4 more items on page 2 of my sale just for FYI. Steve R.Arnold No#1!,Chicago! a rel=nofollow/a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - Please Ignore
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Re: [meteorite-list] ATTN : Hurricane Gustav Evacuation
Best of luck, Mike. Having been stationed at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, I know what you are going through. God speed. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:46 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] ATTN : Hurricane Gustav Evacuation HI Listees! I have boarded up and sandbagged the house in preparation for Hurricane Gustav. I have a few meteorite-related packages that I have to ship off still, and I am posting this notice to let my buyers know that their packages are safe. I am taking the packages with me and I will be mailing them from Florida, where we are evacuating to. I just don't have the time and ability to ship them today - the town resembles an ant-hill that has been kicked over. It's madness. If anyone on this list is located in the Louisiana-Mississippi-East Texas part of the Gulf of Mexico - GET OUT! This is especially true for Terrebonne Parish Louisiana (my home) because we have NO levees here - we are sitting ducks thanks to the incompetence of our fearless leaders who embezzle all the public funds away for their own private use. The projected storm track takes the storm as a Category 4 right up the mouth of Terrebonne Bay - if this holds true, my home town of Houma will be inundated under 9-12 feet of storm surge - which is not good since we sit below sea level. I'd rather be on Asteroid 4 Vesta right now. ;) Regards, clear skies, and godspeed, MIkeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 41 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:01 AM Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Rosetta stoned (Darren Garrison) 2. AD: Some Super Ebay Auctions Ending (ALMitt) 3. TAZA and ZIZ from EMTT (PolandMET) 4. AD: SALE RUNNING IN MY STORE, Plus 48 AMAZING AUCTIONS FOR THE WEEK...Some Real DROOLERS! (michael cottingham) 5. WANTED MARS - thin section (Patricia Harris) 6. Test (Kevin Kichinka) 7. Ad: Ebay sale ending in an hour (Michael Farmer) 8. AD: Ebay Sale-Carbonaceous Slice (Thomas Webb) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:46:06 -0400 From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Rosetta stoned To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://pr-usa.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=128560Itemid=34 Rosetta spacecraft meets asteroid Steins ESA PR 35-2008. ESA?s Rosetta spacecraft will make a historic encounter with asteroid (2867) Steins on 5 September 2008. The doors of ESA?s European Space Operations Centre (ESOC) in Darmstadt, Germany, will be open to the media as of 18:00 on 5 September to follow the fly-by events. First images and results will be available for presentation to the media during a press conference which will be held at ESOC the following day, Saturday 6 September at 12:00 CEST. Steins is Rosetta?s first nominal scientific target. The spacecraft will rendezvous with the asteroid in the course of its first incursion into the asteroid belt located between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, while on its way to comet 67/P Churyumov-Gerasimenko. The study of asteroids is extremely important as they represent a sample of Solar System material at different stages of evolution ? key to understanding the origin of our own planet and of our planetary neighbourhood. The closest approach to Steins is due to take place on 5 September at 20:58 CEST (Central European Summer Time), from a distance of 800 km, during which the spacecraft will not be communicating with Earth. First ground contact with the spacecraft and announcement of successful fly-by will take place at 22:23 CEST. The first data and images collected by Rosetta will be sent to Earth throughout the night of 5 to 6 September and will undergo
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: How well can you view this?
Works fine on my XP Pro laptop with Win IE. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:57 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: How well can you view this? Ruben, Would you please forward this message for me to the list. I never can post. I have tried several e-mail addresses over the years, always the same thing. Thanks, Tim Hello List, I would like to get some information on how well this movie clip can be viewed and if there is any problems. http://www.meteorman.org/Mars2.htm Thank You, Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Carancas -unfortunately not the same oldcrap anymore...
It appears that everything Mike Farmer predicted about the crater and recovery efforts has become reality. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:29 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Carancas -unfortunately not the same oldcrap anymore... Jan Hattenbach visited the remainders of the crater a month ago, here his report and some pictures. http://kuerzer.de/Cara He writes, that the crater walls sank down, are much lower now and the bottom of the crater is almost totally silted up. The water inside is only a couple of inches deep. So the initial objective not to look for meteoritic material, but to preserve the crater instead, failed. All tourist/scientific projects will have a commemorative character. Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' now Available
I'm curious how the shipments have progressed from Amazon. I ordered the Field Guide on 21 June and it arrived Saturday, 28 June. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Charley Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' now Available Pat: Great! Thanks Larry On Tue, June 24, 2008 10:36 am, Pat Brown wrote: I pre-ordered on May 26th and my Amazon account shows that the book shipped by 2nd day air (I have joined Amazon's Prime program that offers expedited order fulfillment and 2nd day air shipment on all orders for $80/yr) on Monday the 23rd and shows expected delivery on Wednesday June the 25th. Best Regards, Pat --- On Sun, 6/22/08, Charley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Charley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites now Available To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 9:32 AM Hi all, I ordered mine on Amazon.com when Mike first alerted the list (April 15) that the book was soon to be available. The cost was to be $25.05 (including free shipping and the pre-order discount) . About a week and a half ago I received an email from Amazon telling me that there was a delay and asking me to respond if I was still interested. I responded in the affirmative and later received an email from Amazon that the new expected date was in late July. I just visited my Amazon order page and it shows that the anticipated shipping date is July 21 (and my pre-order discount has disappeared). Clicking on the book title takes me to the book description page where it is noted that the book is temporarily out of stock. Apparently Amazon is confused. Anyway, I've waited 2 months already so what is another month? It would be interesting to know if anyone actually receives the book before July 21. Best regards, Charley Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:05:31 -0400 From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites now Available To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Good Morning- For those of you waiting- I just got an email at 9:30 this morning from Amazon that my book shipped. The book must have been released and Amazon now has them in. The odd thing was yesterday I got an email from them offering to cancel my order (if I didn't respond) as the delivery date was now undetermined. I'm glad I responded to continue with the order. Have a good day. Coincidentally, I was just looking at that on Amazon a few minutes ago, and wondering why nobody had mentioned getting theirs yet (release date at Amazon is shown as June 6th). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Added another story to my homepage.
Good job, Mike. Nicely done and thanks for posting the story. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Added another story to my homepage. Hello everyone I have finally learned to work with my website and it really is kinda fun. So for my latest update I have added the story about the main mass of Glorieta. You can find it here www.meteoritefinder.com I have added new links and items for sale almost daily. So it is growing quickly right now. -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Santa Rosa Colombia and Chergach
Awesome specimens, Mike. Thanks for post them. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Santa Rosa Colombia and Chergach Hi everyone, it was a very peaceful day, with all incoming emails of an unwanted nature blocked, I acutally got some work done. I have updated my private collection page with a Santa Rosa piece I got from the Smithsonian, and to celebrate the fact that Chergach (Mali) is now classified, I put my collection pieces on the website. Take a look, let me know if you like them. http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/santarosa.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/chergach.htm Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Santa Rosa Colombia and Chergach
Beautiful, Michael. Thanks for the post. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Santa Rosa Colombia and Chergach Beautiful stones Mike! Here's a few I got from Svend through a trade: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Chergach.html http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Erg-Chech.html Michael Johnson www.spacerocksinc.com - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 8:26:50 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [meteorite-list] Santa Rosa Colombia and Chergach Hi everyone, it was a very peaceful day, with all incoming emails of an unwanted nature blocked, I acutally got some work done. I have updated my private collection page with a Santa Rosa piece I got from the Smithsonian, and to celebrate the fact that Chergach (Mali) is now classified, I put my collection pieces on the website. Take a look, let me know if you like them. http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/santarosa.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/chergach.htm Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Greensburg Kansas Anniversary
Ladies and Gentlemen, Lest we forget that one year ago, a tornado ripped through Greensburg, Kansas, destroying most of it. Many of the members of this list contributed and worked the effort to donate to the reconstruction of the town. For those who might be interested, the Discovery Channel is hosting a 60 minute program on May 03, at 8:00 pm titled Blown Away: Greensburg, Kansas. The program will be shown again on May 04, at 12:00 am. Steve Arnold #1 or Geoff Notkin... I'm interesteed in how Greensburg has progressed these past 12 months. Would you or anyone else on the list be able to provide and update? Regards, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Greensburg Kansas Anniversary
Steve, Thank you very much for taking the time to provide such a deeply personal, heart-felt, and insightful reply. I went through a wide range of emotions while reading your post. On one extreme, feeling happy and proud for the people staying to rebuild Greensburg and on the other end of the spectrum, sad at the historical and cultural losses incurred by the populace. Your post is a great testamonial to the town and people of Greensburg. I for one will continue to keep the town and inhabitants of Greensburg in my prayers. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Greensburg Kansas Anniversary Hello Dave and All, Thanks for the post. As many of you know, my house in Greensburg was destroyed by the tornado one year ago tomorrow. Well, technically, it wasn't totally destroyed then, but by the time the city came along and bulldozed it without my permission it was then totally destroyed. But it is now usually easier to just say my house was destroyed by the tornado. I have been told that the Kansas media had decided to censor themselves and they agreed not to write anything negative about the rebuilding of Greensburg as their way to help the town have the best shot at getting back on its feet. So, most everything I have read has been quite positive. The town does have some major challenges. It all goes back to that pesky Supply and Demand equation. It is translated here to the challenge of: The city needs people living there for businesses to be able to come back, but the city needs businesses there for people to want to move back. A bit of a Catch 22. Greensburg is the county seat of Kiowa county, so part of it had to be rebuilt, even if no one wanted to live there. But it does seem there are some people that do want to live there. One year ago today, there were a LOT of homes in Greensburg with For Sale Signs in their front yards. Some of those homes had been on the market for a long time, as buyers were not plentiful. So it was no surprise when so many people met with their insurance adjustors, standing in their yard with a big fat check in their hands, they decided to take their checks and move elsewhere with their money. Many of these people were older, and the choice to live in a town or city with better medical facilities was a decision most of these people faced regularly with or without EF-5 help. As a farm community two hours outside of Wichita, and an hour east of Dodge City, it is too far for most business and industry to want to consider building there. I think I read that there was 1,000 homes there before the tornado and there have been around 136 new building permits issued this year. Most people still staying in town are living in FEMAville the huge mobile home park set up with FEMA supplied white mobile homes. I am not sure how long people can stay in them. For many, they can't afford to rebuild, but they have no where else to go. Without a job, it is hard for some to want to rebuild. But there are some people that don't want to leave either. I did hear from a local friend that it was determined that it cost 20% MORE to rebuild in Greensburg than it did anywhere else in Kansas. The primary reason was that the construction workers have to commute often from and back to Dodge City every day to stay in their hotels. Top that with the need for construction workers to return to their homes (wherever that might be) on the weekends. Without a construction workforce living in the town, like all other towns have, it is just more expensive to build. Then, real estate prices have a trend to go DOWN in value in western Kansas anyway. I'm not sure, but I think about the cheapest home that could be built would be around $125,000, with most probably being between $150,000 and $250,000. Well, how many Minimum wage workers can pay a mortgage or rent on that nice of a home? With no low cost options, much of the work force is prices out of living there. I don't mean to sound to negative. The attempt here is to be maybe a bit more realistic. I think there was a strong desire for people to want to make the town the way it was before. But the reality is, if even half of the old residents returned, and the full population grew back with new residents and 99% of the buildings in town are rebuilt, there is NO WAY they can even start to get it the way it was before. And everyone there realizes that. And no one is really trying to make it the way it was before. Greensburg, with the people who are choosing to rebuild is an ongoing story of courage and struggle. Many people have chosen to fight their personal battles of courage and struggle in other places, and to not come back. Some older people moved strait
Re: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Allende and new Suizhou collection pieces
Both are absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing them with us. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Allende and new Suizhou collection pieces Hi everyone. I finally got around to posting my new Allende I got in my Smithsonian exchange on my website, as well as a 1.6 kilogram Suizhou stone I got today from China, along with the Zunhua pieces. Both the stones still have dirt imbedded in the crust from impact 39 and and 23 years later! I am glad they did not clean them. http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/allende.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/suizhou.htm What do you guys think about these beauties? Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wayner44!!!
...or to ask permission to use the description and give due credit. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wayner44!!! Just wanted to thank this Wayner44 for using my exact wording in the first part of his eBay auction for his description of the book that he`s selling of A Comet Strikes the Earth by H. H. Nininger. Geez... how hard is it to at least change some of the wording in the description! I guess someone who is just a bit lazy! Dave Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Berduc, Argentina Fall Expedition
Greg, Mike, and Robert, Thanks for sharing the details of your expedition. What a beautiful bunch of meteorites. Re: snakes I'm not a fan. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Berduc, Argentina Fall Expedition Dear List Members, Mike Farmer asked me to forward his email to the List in regards to our recent expedition to investigate the Berduc, Argentina meteorite fall. At the bottom are links to his web pages he built describing it. Enjoy! Greg Hello list members Robert Ward, Greg Hupe and I have just returned from an expedition to Entre-Rios Argentina, where we investigated the Berduc meteorite fall. We were there for a week, studying the strewnfield, searching for meteorites, teaching the locals about strewnfields etc. We endured eating pig intestines, heat, thorns stabbing every part of the body you can imagine and snakes! Did I mention the snakes? We saw them every day, lots of them, just google the Yarara snake, and learn about the most common inhabitant of the Berduc meteorite strewnfield. If you are scared of snakes, this was not the trip for you. If you are tired of the crappy newspaper accounts of the fall, then check out the webpages I put together with information and photos from our trip. http://meteoriteguy.com/berducfall1.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/berducfall2.htm Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Do You Know It's A Meteorite?
Because Adam Hupe, Greg Hupe, Mike Farmer, Dean Bussy, Ruben Garcia, Geoff Notkin, Steve Arnold #1, Moritz Karl, Martin Altman, etc. (the list goes on) said so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] How Do You Know It's A Meteorite? Dear List Member, I would like to hear your most convincing response to the layman's question, How do you know it's a meteorite? My best, Thomas You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
The Donut also looks like a celestial Life Saver. That's awesome, Greg! Dave - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Images of NWA 5000 Complete Slice
Absolutely awesome Dave - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of NWA 5000 Complete Slice Dear List Members, I promised some images of the only complete slice taken from NWA 5000, The Cosmic Masterpiece. The surprise is that a hermetically-sealed display system was manufactured specifically for this slice and is a one-off. We would like to take this time to express our gratitude to Steven Domonkos Sr., Sr. Research Engineer, Department of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington who fabricated this fantastic display system. Not only does it act as a display, it also operates as a preservation chamber holding a vacuum, which can and will be charged with nitrogen. Although it may resemble something imagined from a Jules Verne book, it is a meticulously-created machine built to aerospace standards. The tolerances are incredible and the workmanship is exquisite. The frame was machined so precisely that it actually touches the slice at three points along the inside of the ring. The front and back are made from a bullet-resistant material that will not yellow over time. The synthetic o-rings are made of a material that will not degas, harden or decay. The valves and monitoring gauge are superb. Please ignore the base in the third image; it is a mock-up until a permanent one can be created. It is still a work-in-progress that has passed all pressure testing and will be ready in time for its inaugural public viewing at the 39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston this March. Even though lunar material is among the most robust meteoritic material available, these extra steps were taken in order to ensure that future generations will be able to experience NWA 5000 the same way we have long after our team has passed on. We went as far as machining extra parts so that the future stewards of NWA 5000 can maintain its pristine condition for perhaps 1,000 years and then hopefully another system will be in place. The only drawback is that it is impossible to capture the beauty of this complete slice in an image. It has to be experienced first-hand in order to truly appreciate it. We will provide weight and measurement data on the slice once it has been officially recorded and submitted to Guinness for a world record. Image links: http://themeteoritesite.com/Time-Capsule-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Time-Capsule-b.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Time-Capsule-c.jpg Thank you for looking, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cali, Mali-- Bali?
Yeah... all those crowds and you'd suspect at least someone would have a camera. Dave - Original Message - From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cali, Mali-- Bali? Too Bad. No Pics of crater or object! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Cali, Mali-- Bali? http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSJAK15554 THE JAKARTA POST - CRATER FROM POSSIBLE METEOR FRAGMENT IN BALI PULLS CROWDS A crater, found in a rice field in Bali and thought to have been caused by a meteorite fragment, has attracted crowds. The crater, one metre in diameter, was found 20 kilometres north of Denpasar. Residents said they heard an explosion on Tuesday evening and saw a bright object falling from the sky. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Samples
Are there that many meteorites being found in Nevada and California to clog the whole system? Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'AL Mitterling' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Samples A major part of the problem are the people hunting in Nevada/California, submitting every 2 or 3 gram chondrite they find, it has clogged the whole system. Michael Farmer --- JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that many of the Arizona meteorite hunters had loyalties to University of Arizona and/or Arizona State University in the past. Several years ago, it wasn't unusual to get a classification (free) done in just a few months depending on who you knew at which school and what you relationship to them was. The Arizona universities were excited to see more Arizona material start showing up. But as time went by and meteorite hunting popularity increased, so did the amount of material submitted to labs for classification. I don't know if I'm right, but I suppose that the meteorite scientists might have lost their interest in the common stuff after seeing so much of it. Prior to that, there was very little material submitted for classification. Just my opinion, John At 12:17 PM 12/29/2007, Mark Crawford wrote: John/list, At the risk of sounding naive, why /wouldn't/ you pay for professional classification? If Bessey's fee of around $80 is typical (and I admit, I don't know if that's the case), why would you risk lost samples or interminable delays? Why not just add an extra buck/gramme to the sale price? I guess what I'm asking is, what's the non-financial reason for lodging with a non-fee-charging establishment? Do 'professional' labs only validate a limited range of types (eg - Bathurst don't do irons)? Do you have no say over where the type specimen gets lodged? Mark JKGwilliam wrote: I suppose the only solution is to pay for the classification services so true professionals will be handling your specimen. Please don't misunderstand my use of the word professional. I'm talking about scientists who are also business professionals. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Happy....
List members, I wish you all a very Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Festivus, Happy Quanzaa, and most of all PEACE. Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] carancas
and you'll make a $10 profit. - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] carancas On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:49:03 -0800, you wrote: Hi Mike, Since he mentioned I was the one who sold it, The price also reflects on my business (which may be what was at question to begin with). I sold the 1.118g Carancas for $110- ($100/g). Best wishes, Michael Wanna buy it back and sell it again? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290182827211 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 15, 2007
Miss Elily rocks. Congratulations, Dean!!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:12 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 15,2007 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_15_2007.html ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrules a'plenty
S6 W0 - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondrules a'plenty Shipping charges would be brutal, though. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21794447/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My 50mm Toluca Sphere is Finished
Beautiful. Another great addition to a very unique collection. Dave - Original Message - From: David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] My 50mm Toluca Sphere is Finished I finished my Toluca Sphere today, it's 50mm in diameter (of course) and weighs 528 grams You can check it out and the rest of my collection at: http://home.ec.rr.com/bobadebt/50mil.htm The etch is fantastic even though the pictures on my web site don't truly convey the sparkle and depth of it. I started collecting meteorites in May of 2006 and the first slice I bought was Toluca. As soon as I received it I knew I had to have a sphere made from this material but it was really hard finding a suitable piece. But I never gave up and my perseverance paid off. If you check it out let me know what you think Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] report Munich show and AD
Many thanks to Dr Buhl asnd Mirko Graul for providing information and photos about the Munich Show. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] report Munich show and AD Is the Mali material currently being classified? I'm looking for an ugly specimen that would be large enough to produce a 50mm sphere. If you have one that you think might fit my requirements contact me off list at bobadebt at ec.rr.com Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LA MANCHA TKW
Mike Farmer spent a lot of time putting information on his web site relating to La Mancha. I'd suggeest going to: http://meteoriteguy.com/lamanchaspainfall/LaManchafall.htm Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] LA MANCHA TKW Hi list..I would like to know approximatly the TKW of La Mancha. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule photos
Very nice, Darren. I love chondrules. Chondrules Rule!! Thanks for sharing them. Dave - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondrule photos I've been making lots of photo with my new USB microscope, and had been planning to write up some descriptions of each of the chondrules before putting them on the web, but I came to accept that I don't know enough of the physics/chemestry involved to come up with something new and meaningful about each photo. So I'll simply say-- look at all the purty pictures. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peru INGEMMET contact information for petitionofaerial photos and Carancas crater preservation
Try the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Peru INGEMMET contact information for petitionofaerial photos and Carancas crater preservation List, Still no eamil addresses for Jose Machare or Luisa Macedo, report investigators. Here is a copy of the email addresses from the INGEMMET site: INSTITUTO GEOLÓGICO MINERO Y METALÚRGICO Abreviatura: INGEMMET Sector:Ministerio de Energía y Minas Dirección: Av. Canadá N° 1470 Departamento: LIMA Provincia: LIMA Distrito: SAN BORJA Teléfono:+51-1-618-9800 Fax: +51-1-225-4540 RUC: 20112919377 Types of Information: --- Product Information: Información sobre ventas de productos y servicios [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Alvaro Figueroa Encargado de Ventas -- Adminstrative Finance: Información sobre la parte administrativa en el marco de la ley de transparencia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eco. Guillermo Casafranca García Director de Administración y Finanzas -- Institutional Technical Cooperation Relations Information: Información sobre asuntos técnicos en el marco de la ley de transparencia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Francisco Herrera Oficina de Relaciones Institucionales y Cooperación Técnica --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IMGEMMET website is: http://www.ingemmet.gob.pe/ On the upper right is a row of links that includes Contactenos or Contact Us (I guess). Clicking on it brings up a page with three email address for mining, financial affairs, and technical relations, the website of the Minister, and their phone and fax numbers. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Peru INGEMMET contact information for petition ofaerial photos and Carancas crater preservation Dear List, Here is the contact information for Peru`s INGEMMET if you wish to petition for aerial photographs and stereo-pair photos, crater preservation and any further followup study. Time is of the essence so IF possible FAX in Spanish (best) or English. I don`t currently have their email addresses at this time. If someone can come up with their email addresses please post to the list. Contact persons: Investigators: Luisa Macedo F. Jose Machare O. Telephone: +51-1-618-9800 (central operator) Fax: +51-1-225-3063; +51-1-225-4540 Fax Ventas: +51-1-476-7010 Address: INGEMMET Av. Canada 1470, San Borja, Lima 41, PERU Thanks to those that help with concerning these matters. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulation to Tom Phillips!
Outstanding Congratulations, Tom. A well deserved accolade. Dave - Original Message - From: Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Congratulation to Tom Phillips! Dear List, Tom Phillips is one of 3 winners of the Carl Zeiss Contest MicroImages 2007 http://www.zeiss.de/c12567be0045acf1/Contents-Frame/d6ea562032304237c1257361003284f4 Great work Tom! Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham's Barwell auctions
Mike, Check Mike's eBay store. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernd Pauli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham's Barwell auctions That's interesting - I could only find 2 Michael on 9/5/07 2:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael wrote: Over 2 grams of the BARWELL Meteorite Fall From England http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200147010552 Hello List, I'd like to let you know that Michael has 18 Barwell items on EBay, 17 of them are Buy-It-Now items. Well, e...erh, he had 19 items but when I saw his competitive prices, the best price for Barwell that I have ever seen, I just couldn't, ... yes, you know what's coming now :-)...I just couldn't resist. I'm sure my Barwell thin section will be highly pleased about this new addition to my collection! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- When Jesus said, Love your enemies I think he probably meant don't kill them. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - September 1, 2007
A most interesting and creative way to display Vaca Muerta. Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - September 1,2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/September_1_2007.html _ ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] starchasermeteorites
Quo usque tandem abutere patientia nostra? - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] starchasermeteorites Good morning list.It looks like are favorite southern suburb is at it again.Starchaser meteorites is selling fakes again on ebay.ALAN HILLS 84001?THE MAIN MASS?For 350,000$?Canyon Diablo's for $10 grand,RARE plessitic irons with weaves in them.It looks more like my old grandma did her own weaving at the knitting club.What the hell are KAMASITE PLESSITE SPINDLES?Some of these look like campo's.Some of these were classified by the world famous meteorite guy MITCH MINOR.Some of the ones at the bottom of his page are real,but ALH84001?We all know the real truth about that one.Cavet Emptor,buyer beware. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] starchasermeteorites
Very Appropriate, John. Dave - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] starchasermeteorites Don't you just love these old quotes? Here's another applicable one. Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narrat qui accepit John At 11:47 AM 7/31/2007, Bill wrote: Steve, In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:38:29 -0700 (PDT) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] starchasermeteorites Good morning list.It looks like are favorite southern suburb is at it again.Starchaser meteorites is selling fakes again on ebay.ALAN HILLS 84001?THE MAIN MASS?For 350,000$?Canyon Diablo's for $10 grand,RARE plessitic irons with weaves in them.It looks more like my old grandma did her own weaving at the knitting club.What the hell are KAMASITE PLESSITE SPINDLES?Some of these look like campo's.Some of these were classified by the world famous meteorite guy MITCH MINOR.Some of the ones at the bottom of his page are real,but ALH84001?We all know the real truth about that one.Cavet Emptor,buyer beware. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007
Ssteve, Not possible NWA 2786 is a mesosiderite. You're confused. NWA 2986 is supposedly paired NWA 2975. See Jim Stropes fine web site to learn more. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007 Hi list.I was told that a certain martian meteorite that was all the rage in tucson this year has possibly a couple of pairings.2 of them are NWA 2975 AND NWA 2786.Does anyone know this nwa number.I was told there was about a kilo of it and lots of small individuals. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007
This URL might help you out too. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/id/fusioncrust.htm Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007 Hi list.I was told that a certain martian meteorite that was all the rage in tucson this year has possibly a couple of pairings.2 of them are NWA 2975 AND NWA 2786.Does anyone know this nwa number.I was told there was about a kilo of it and lots of small individuals. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chat Room Anyone?
List, Anyone up for a chat on Mark Bostick`s chatroom? http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Regards, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the next met. bulletin
Gee Steve... I'd recommend contacting The Meteoritical Society and ask. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] the next met. bulletin Hi list.I was looking for when meteorite bulletin #92 will be coming out?I will be getting a newly classified NWA and it will be published in this bulletin. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Meteorites
Great pictures, Mike. Thanks for sharing them. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Smithsonian Meteorites Happy Canada Day List! Last week I enjoyed a wonderful time in Washington and was able to see many sites including the Lincoln Memorial, Arlington Cemetery, The Vietnam War memorial and many more. On this trip we also saw the Luray Caverns and Gettysburg. Of course, we also enjoyed some of the Smithsonian Museums. This is a tremendous institution and I was so pleased to see that the displays are free to the public so all could enjoy these national treasures. I am a firm believer that State and National Museums should be free so anyone can study and enjoy science and art treasures without having to pay for it. This is the same premise behind the public library system. Last time I took my family to the Royal Ontario Museum we spent well over $100 entrance fees! I went to the Smithsonian web site and could not find any pictures from there meteorite collection so I thought I would share a few of mine. here you will see some incredible meteorites including: -A gorgeous flow marked Lafayette -ALH84001! Martian meteorite once thought to have fossilized life forms. -Huge Paragould individual with a nice polished face. Also shown is my friend Ernie touching a piece of Mars. In the acrylic box is a slice of Nakla. Ernie is a life long friend who was the principal of my grade school 40 years ago when I was in kindergarten. We now love to travel together to study history and politics from different places. I am looking forward to our trek along the Pilgrim's Trail this fall in Southern England. Please enjoy these photos and if you want larger images just email me. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshareUc=2sgymb4f.advl194nUy=r5kav9Ux=0 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite article
Thanks, Darren. Dave - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite article On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Hi list.On the yahoo home page,there is an article about Dr.Randy Kortov.He talks about meteor-wrongs and other interesting items concerning meteorites.://:www.yahoo.com. is where you will find it. Here's the link: http://picks.yahoo.com/picks/potw/20070622.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Global Warming
I'd like to suggest that this entire thread be taken to a more appropriate list: alt.global-warming Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce
An excellent, factual analysis, Sterling. - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce Hi, Rob, Michael, List Here we go again! Global Warming - Scientifically Proven or A Farce? Bong, bong, bong! I'm sorry, the Correct Answer is... Farce! the vast majority of scientists as expressed in the United Nations Wrong! Cap'n Blood is referring here to the IPCC -- the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a document produced by beaurocrats, not scientists, of the UN. It lists 2500 of the world's leading scientists as authors. In actual fact, NONE of these scientists wrote ANY of the report, and the report does not contain their scientific conclusions, evidence, etc. The scientist named as lead author on the title page, John Christie, has repeatedly repudiated the report and called it worthless. He's asked to have his name removed from it, but the UN has just as repeatedly refused to do it. The IPCC Report contains a section on the dire biological consequences of GW that contains such idiocies as the suggestion that GW will allow malaria to spread from the tropics north and south to areas now safe because mosquitoes are not found where temperatures fall below 18 deg. C. They should be staked out on the banks of the Yukon River in summer so non-existent carnivorous mosquitoes can devour them. The worst malaria epidemic in history took place in Russia in 1922. The city of Archangel on the ARTIC OCEAN had 30,000 cases and 11,000 deaths... Why didn't the UN consult an expert? Well, they did. They consulted the WHO's and the world's leading expert on malaria, Paul Reiter of the Pasteur Institute. I could give you paragraphs of his credentials, but this post is going to be too long as it is. Google him. OK? They put his name on this idiocy. He told them to take his name off. They said, no, you contributed. He said, no, because you didn't listen to anything I said. The UN refused to remove his name from their garbage. He sued the UN in Belgium. They took his name off. You'll have to ask the beaurocrats at the UN why they wrote what they did in the IPCC Report. If you ever get a straight answer, let me know. But, whatever the reason, it wasn't the science. I'm equally sure they had a reason. Wonder what it was? Next, we have the incorrectly titled An Inconvenient Truth. This title was chosen because it sounds so much better than the accurate one: A Convenient Lie. Highlights of the presentation are the display of the Hockey Stick graph of temperature rise, an artifact of faulty computer programming on the part of the modeler. The mathematical error that gave rise to it is acknowledged by every expert who's seen the code except, of course, by the man who screwed up. You can take his bad code and give it RANDOM temperature records and it will still produce a sudden sharp curve of warming... Garbage processor. The highlight of Mister Gore's presentation is the giant graph of world temperature and carbon dioxide levels which march up and down in lockstep, together, in a perfect fit, taken from the ice core data of 400,000 years. Man, that nails it! That's proof positive! Well, he does mention that there are some difficulties with the ice cores, but he never says what they are nor any word about them. The difficulty is this. The ice cores for 400,000 years show that the rise in CO2 FOLLOWS the rise in temperature by 800 to 1000 years. FIRST, the temperature goes up, THEN CO2 goes up... 800 years later. Does CO2 cause warming? NO. Warming causes CO2. The mechanism is easy to understand. CO2 solubility in water is very temperature dependent. Leave your soda sitting out on a warm day; it goes flat. When the planet warms, the ocean surface warms. Warm water cannot hold much CO2; it releases the CO2 that was dissolved in it when it was cold. The oceans turn over' in 800 to 1000 years; new CO2 laden water is continually brought to the surface and warmed, until all the dissolved CO2 is in the atmosphere -- on the same time scale as revealed in the ice cores. QED. This one piece of evidence ought to be enough all by itself to drive a fatal stake through the heart of the fundamental flaw of Warmism. Carbon dioxide, man-made or natural, does NOT drive climate change. But like Dracula in the horror movies of my childhood, Warmism comes back from the dead, time after time. It's not one set of cores, by the way, it's all the cores, from everywhere, Antarctica, Greenland, mountain glaciers in South America, decades of cores -- they all show the SAME thing. At any rate, a stage show run by a politician IS NOT EVIDENCE of anything, except that politicians will do or say ANYTHING
Re: [meteorite-list] New website
WOW Beautiful web site. You have some very nice Gao specimens for sale. I'm sure some enterprising Gao collector will want to have a look. Dave - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New website Hello, I'm happy to announce you that I completely redesigned my website www.meteor-center.com Let's get a look at my collection and sales. You should find very interesting items. And meet you in Ensisheim ! Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE IMCA #3360 ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Present the Worlds Largest Privately Owned Meteorite Sphere Collection
That is one beautiful collection. Dave - Original Message - From: David Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Present the Worlds Largest Privately Owned Meteorite Sphere Collection I feel pretty safe saying that since I'm probably the only oddball in this hobby that specifically collects meteorite spheres :) I have been collecting for about a year and so far I have managed to purchase or make 8 meteorite spheres and 3 equally cool but non-meteorite related spheres. I created a quick display to hold 10 of them for an image for my web site From left to right NWA 2828 , GUANG DONG TEKTITE, DINOSAUR DONE, NWA 869 DRONINO, GAO, GIBEON CAMPO, SEYMCHAN BRAHIN Not Pictured, PETRIFIED WOOD http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Collection.jpg I think I had a really good year but I don't have very high expectations for next year, if I mange to add 3 more by next May I will be elated. I'm always looking for material to make into a sphere, so if you have some send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would like to visit my web site click this: http://home.ec.rr.com/bobadebt/50mil.htm Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
