OpenBSD Tablet-ish

2015-02-19 Thread Jack Woehr

What's the smallest, most tablet-ish device I can put OpenBSD on? Want to 
travel and stay connected.

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Re: OpenBSD Tablet-ish

2015-02-19 Thread Jack Woehr

Robert wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:23:47 -0600
Luis Coronado lcoron...@ticoit.com wrote:

sharp zaurus?

Anything that can be acquired outside of a museum? ;)




Thanks everyone, Luis, Christopher, Robert, for all the ideas, and keep 'em 
coming if anyone has any more.

I may not be able reply if any q's are asked until Monday, thanks again..

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Re: integrity of commercial CD set

2015-01-14 Thread Jack Woehr

Theo de Raadt wrote:

Finding them inside the global shipping system is easier than you
think


One of the joys of growing old is watching the really bad sci fi you read as a 
youth all come true :)

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Re: Discovering the keycode of key.

2014-12-25 Thread Jack Woehr

Eduardo Lopes wrote:

May someone point to me how do I can obtain, in the console, the keycode of
any particular key, in OpenBSD?


in gforth (a port) you can do  KEY .

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Re: USB hub stopped working

2014-11-25 Thread Jack Woehr

patrick keshishian wrote:

Hi Martin,

On 11/25/14, Martin Pieuchot mpieuc...@nolizard.org wrote:

Hello Patrick,

On 24/11/14(Mon) 23:48, patrick keshishian wrote:

Hi,

I have this USB hub, which is connected to my desktop
PC;


External powered? Is it plugged in? Excuse me for asking.


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Re: The Dao of pf?

2014-10-23 Thread Jack Woehr

Steve Litt wrote:


This time, I'd like to understand what I'm doing a little more. What
are some broad principles of pf? Does pf have an overarching philosophy
or architecture?


Read the book :)

http://www.amazon.com/Book-PF-No-Nonsense-OpenBSD-Firewall/dp/1593275897/ref=asap_B001JPCK0S_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1414126274sr=1-1 



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Re: nobody spoke up, about today?

2014-10-19 Thread Jack Woehr

STeve Andre' wrote:

  Happy birthday, OpenBSD!


Also John Le Carré's birthday. Coincidence? :)

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Re: OpenBSD 5.5: question regarding pf syntax

2014-09-28 Thread Jack Woehr

andy wrote:


I have what I hope is a simple syntax question for pf rules.


BTW 3rd edition about to be released.

The Book of PF

In the third edition of The Book of PF (No Starch Press, Oct 2014, 248 pp., $34.95), author Peter N.M. Hansteen returns 
with more of the life-saving PF and BSD help that made the first two editions such a hit. With the help of this 
fast-paced, clear, instructional guide, readers will master the latest PF developments to build strong and secure 
networks better able to handle today's network demands.





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Re: Why are there NSA, CSIS, and GOOGLE IDs in my ftplist.cgi

2014-08-16 Thread Jack Woehr

Theo de Raadt wrote:
1 person noticed. Took about 6 years. 

Clark Kent, you're a real SOB when you're drunk! :)

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Re: SHA file missing on CD1 of OpenBSD 5.5

2014-07-22 Thread Jack Woehr

Ted Unangst wrote:

It's pretty difficult to create CDs that both contain signatures and are
themselves signed.


Yeah, you'd have to replace SHA with something like Ouroboros :)

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Re: OpenBSD on IBM Power

2014-04-13 Thread Jack Woehr

Nick Holland wrote:

There's a lot of reasons developers can be interested in particular hardware

The P series are perfectly good systems for AIX, Linux, and i Series OS (OS400).
They would also be fine for OpenBSD if there were any call for that, but in the 
IBM community,
the open-source *nix niche was filled in the 1999 by IBM mutineers creating a 
Linux port. The
technology spread from the 390 to the AS400 and the P series (which latter 
subsumed the AS400).
All attempts to revisit the issue of *nix-on-IBM-big-iron have been 
spectacularly unsuccessful at gaining
adherents, e.g., the excellent SOL390 (Open Solaris for mainframes) port was 
born only to die a lonely death.

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OpenSSL heartbleed ?

2014-04-08 Thread Jack Woehr

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/382068,serious-openssl-bug-renders-websites-wide-open.aspx

accurate w/r/t 5.3?

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Re: OpenSSL heartbleed ?

2014-04-08 Thread Jack Woehr

Josh Grosse wrote:


Please read: http://www.openbsd.org/errata53.html and note item #14.  You may 
download
the patch from there or for your convenience:

http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/5.3/common/014_openssl.patch

You may also want to read the article published by the OpenBSD Journal:

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20140408063423


Thanks for the update. Should have read the errata list first. I'm getting old 
and slow.


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Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq

2014-04-04 Thread Jack Woehr

I would volunteer to translate the FAQ into Bazgelootz, a language my wife and 
daughter and I made up
over 25 years around the dinner table, but they don't use OpenBSD.

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Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-16 Thread Jack Woehr

Daniel Cegiełka wrote:

http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure

Why do not you do such a campaign?


I think Theo has answered this previously. His point was that he doesn't want 
to spend his time year after year
running campaigns. Being neither a politician nor a diplomat nor a grantmaster, 
he wants a sustainable model.


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Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-16 Thread Jack Woehr

Bob Beck wrote:

so it's not a source of sustainable funding, unless we were to do something 
like introduce an annual quota of bugs

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-13/

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Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?

2014-01-13 Thread Jack Woehr

Christopher Ahrens wrote:


Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in 
my apartment


Sounds like you have answered your own question!

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Re: NSA spy catalog

2014-01-01 Thread Jack Woehr

Erling Westenvik wrote:

Anyway: When can we expect OpenBSD support for these devices?


Erling made my day :)

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Re: Are there OpenBSD users who are not IT professionals?

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Woehr

za...@gmx.com wrote:
 I have decided to adopt OpenBSD and use it for simple day-to-day tasks, as a desktop OS (as I would any popular Linux 
distribution). Does this choice of mine, and its underlying reasoning, make sense?


Yes, it does most of the stuff Linux does, mostly except where prevented from doing so by closed source of the sort 
acceptable to Linux but not to OpenBSD


Are there any significant drawbacks to my adoption of OpenBSD (such as OpenBSD being too technical and too difficult, 
as compared, say, to Linux distros)?


It is a tad more technical. It is not hideously difficult. It's fast enough to install and try that you might as well 
grab a spare computer and try it once. Read the directions, they're concise and accurate.


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Re: time_t

2013-11-18 Thread Jack Woehr

Theo de Raadt wrote:

double (or even better long double) would be a better underlying
type for time_t than long long.

If you believe strongly in this idea, you should take an entire
operating system base and prove the case


15 years ago a gen-yoo-wine software engineer in our department suggested an optimization in an often-executed loop in 
our code.


The curmudgeonly architect/programmer lowered his eyeglasses and stared across the table. And if we make this change, 
he said, and it passes

testing, and is pushed to all our customers, each of them will save, oh, 1.5 seconds 
of execution time per year.

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Re: Hardware backdoors in Lenovo?

2013-07-26 Thread Jack Woehr

Michael Motyka wrote:
Meanwhile, even the new Beagle Bone has ~120KB of secure code and hands off execution to the user in non-secure 
supervisor mode. It's probably that way for my own good. Sigh. I may try to get past that since it's a cool little board. 

http://www.colorforth.com/

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Re: Java on OpenBSD 5.3

2013-07-19 Thread Jack Woehr

Miod Vallat wrote:

Pretty sure it takes more than 1.7G to build Java.

But then how can java people pretend it has any usefulness, besides
filing disks?

Miod


métaphysico-théologo-cosmolo-nigologie :)

Language wars are s-o-o-o 20th century.


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Re: Java on OpenBSD 5.3

2013-07-19 Thread Jack Woehr

openda...@hushmail.com wrote:

On 19. juli 2013 at 3:17 PM, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:

plenty of disk space left in /usr/local (my ports are in /usr/local/ports).


/dev/wd0h  3.7G1.8G1.7G52%/usr/local


Pretty sure it takes more than 1.7G to build Java.

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Boning the Troll

2013-07-11 Thread Jack Woehr
Notice that Thomas is also Jash of the OpenBSD Doesn't Support 64-Bit Intel troll which turns out to be 
word-for-word yet another posting on the previously cited troll blog site whose URL I will not reproduce here.


Apparently we're dealing here with a dedicated (professional?) agent 
provacateur.

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Re: out-of-order TCP

2013-05-15 Thread Jack Woehr

Peter Bisroev wrote:
Maybe I am missing something but how come there are so many out of order packets? 

What's missing may be methodical forensics.

Can you monitor the incoming via some other device and see if they come out of the 
wall socket out of order?

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Re: OpenBSD official reference book ( like FreeBSD handbook / NetBSD Guide )

2013-05-08 Thread Jack Woehr

Ingo Schwarze wrote:

Hi,

TRUNASUCI TRUNASUCI wrote on Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:01:03AM -0400:


I just wanna ask if there is a project for this official refernce book
for all users ( if any please inform ).


If you want to buy a very helpful book, _Absolute OpenBSD_  from No Starch 
Press just made second edition.
I have the Kindle version to review and will be reviewing on Amazon soon.

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Re: OpenBSD official reference book ( like FreeBSD handbook / NetBSD Guide )

2013-05-08 Thread Jack Woehr

Michael W. Lucas wrote:

I should mention here: the Kindle conversion of AO2e had problems.


Every Kindle book converted from print I have ever read does have problems. One of the worst was the chess book _The 
Life and Times of Mikhail Tal_.

(my review of same: 
http://www.amazon.com/review/RX0JLQ3WC3KHW/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm)

I have pointed out several already in your 2nd Ed. to the publisher!

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Re: Legal Question: OpenBSD Spin-off

2013-02-11 Thread Jack Woehr

Crookedmaze wrote:

On 02/10/2013 06:47 PM, Rod Whitworth wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:09:56 -0600, Maximo Pech wrote:

Well, installing openbsd is not what I'd call easy for people with few
technical skills.

Crap! It is well documented and very little data needs to be typed in
as most input can be done by accepting the default.


If you need OpenBSD you have the technical skills to install it or you know 
(and possibly pay) someone who does.

OpenBSD, which is 20-ish years old now, was designed and is designed and apparently always will be designed for those 
who have the technical skills.


If no, there is always Linux.

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Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser

2012-08-13 Thread Jack Woehr

Theo de Raadt wrote:

It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames
should be lower case by default.
Tis a gift to be simple ... every time plane vanilla admin is warped to enable some unnecessary feature that tickles 
the user's fancy, eventually problems emerge.


Why look for trouble?


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Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-30 Thread Jack Woehr

Eric Oyen wrote:

they have. however, thermoform paper is actually more expensive than standard 
paper stock.

Ah. Real-world economics scotches another clever techno solution  :(

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Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Jack Woehr

Eric Oyen wrote:

  btw, an
actual braille embosser (a monster braille printer) costs about $10K.


Hmm, sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity making a cheaper unit. What's 
the input? Unicode?

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Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Jack Woehr

Eric Oyen wrote:

  120 pound bond paper is rather hard on the print heads they use (and
its the only stuff that will reasonably hold braille).


Bond paper is traditional. Haven't they figured out a way to emboss thin sheets 
of polymer yet?

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Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-28 Thread Jack Woehr

Amit Kulkarni wrote:

completely don't understand why there is still no braile terminal
available.


Especially since they were invented back in the 1980's (at the latest). I 
played with a prototype at a meeting
of the Forth Interest Group circa 1987.

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Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Jack Woehr

Weldon Goree wrote:

mdoc(7) (the suggested format)

Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for 
mdoc format?

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Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Jack Woehr

Ingo Schwarze wrote:

The mdoc(7) language is quite easy.
Fascinating exposition ... I guessed the nature of the language from the example. A generation better than groff 
format-based concept.

As with any language, maturing your style will take a bit longer.
Well, not sure how much more my style will mature. Recently passed 60th birthday and spend most of these days playing 
music, chess, and with grandchildren :)
Yours, Ingo 

Nice to chat with you again, Ingo. Keep up your excellent work.

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Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-26 Thread Jack Woehr

Marc Espie wrote:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:46:24PM -0600, Jack Woehr wrote:

Weldon Goree wrote:

mdoc(7) (the suggested format)

Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for 
mdoc format?

vi

!Gmandoc|more
u




funny guy :)

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Re: is application goes to sleep?

2012-07-23 Thread Jack Woehr

lilit-aibolit wrote:

Hi misc, please send me to the right way.
I have java-application:
https://bitbucket.org/sdorra/scm-manager/wiki/Home
It has stoped answering after one week from the start,


Your question is beyond the scope of this mailing list. We only answer 
questions directly about OpenBSD. If your application
is a port in the /usr/ports tree you might get help at po...@openbsd.org. It sounds like your java application has a 
bug. The

author(s) of your java application should have their own support mailing list.

In any case, that which you say, that the application is still present in the process list and holds the port, is 
certainly possible.

A server daemon in java or in any other language which had a bug could 
certainly behave that way. Good luck!

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GPIO and rc.securelevel

2012-04-04 Thread Jack Woehr
gpioctl(8) man page says:  Only pins that have been configured at securelevel 0, typically during system startup, are 
accessible once the securelevel has been raised.


However, /etc/rc.securelevel first says securelevel=1 and only then # Place local 
actions here.

Should I put gpioctl statements before the securelevel=1 statement or is the 
man page in error, please?

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Re: GPIO and rc.securelevel

2012-04-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Christopher Zimmermann wrote:
place them after the comment. securelevel=1 is just a variable assignment, which is used in /etc/rc, which sources 
/etc/rc.securelevel. 

Thanks ... are there also undocumented flags? I have a user who is using the 
invocation

/usr/sbin/gpioctl -q -d /dev/gpio1 -c 4 set out od jp5pin12;

 and it seems to sort of work but I can't find the -c option in the manual.

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Re: GPIO and rc.securelevel

2012-04-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Stuart Henderson wrote:
They are using code from 2008 or earlier. 

My bad. Using three different OBSD machines at different levels, man gpioctl on 
wrong one :(

Thanks, Stuart.

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TBB on OBSD

2009-02-24 Thread Jack Woehr

Anyone working with TBB ( http://www.threadingbuildingblocks.org/ )
on OpenBSD?

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Re: cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-06 Thread Jack Woehr

jared r r spiegel wrote:

$ cp file file.bak

  as far as 'wtf is going on with cp(1)', maybe would've hinted at
  you are executing something other than /bin/cp earlier in the game.

  
Wasn't executing something other than. Was getting NLS error messages 
for OBSD
commands from the Object Rexx message file. Very silly. Working too 
hard, starting

to ask foolish questions on the list! My apologies.

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cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-04 Thread Jack Woehr

I'm experiencing something with 4.3 I never experienced before,
or maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

In the following example, I'm trying to copy a file (wrongly)
in a directory I don't own and which is write-protected:

   cp factor.rex factor.rex.bak
   cp: factor.rex.bak: Invalid character in program

Invalid character in program??

rm also returns this when I use rm illegally. Was it always
like this?

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Re: cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Philip Guenther wrote:

Hmm, I don't see that error message in the stock /bin/cp or /bin/rm.
Are you running your own version of them or have shell script wrappers
for them or something?  What's the output of which cp rm?
  


Is it maybe builtin to ksh? Besides, the error message is probably from 
a runtime lib, right?

Anway:

   $ echo $SHELL
   /bin/ksh
   $ which rm
   /bin/rm
   $ ls -l ccreply.rex
   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4674 Oct  3 12:11 ccreply.rex
   $ whoami
   jax
   $ rm ccreply.rex
   override rwxr-xr-x  root/wheel for ccreply.rex? y
   rm: ccreply.rex: Invalid character in program
   $ uname -a
   OpenBSD elephant.jaxrcfb 4.3 4.3#0 i386

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Re: cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Paul de Weerd wrote:


Also compare the md5 sum of your /bin/rm with the sum from a clean
install of 4.3 (assuming this is a -RELEASE version you're running).
  

It's 4.3 release but I did rebuild from freshly checked out source.

Both the release and the checkout came from ftp3.usa.openbsd.org

So did my Sparc64 install and it does not exhibit this behavior.

I have built a lot of ports. Full jdk6, full kde, etc.

I wonder if I'm hacked.

$ ls -l /bin/rm
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 174016 Aug 23 16:03 /bin/rm
$ md5 /bin/rm
MD5 (/bin/rm) = 9c46f6ee1c8234e3469ea2d461536c17

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Re: cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Philip Guenther wrote:

Perhaps, but /bin/rm and /bin/cp are staticly linked, so the message
would appear in the binary in some form.
  


strings /bin /rm doesn't show that string.


  

Anway:

  $ echo $SHELL
  /bin/ksh
  $ which rm
  /bin/rm
  $ ls -l ccreply.rex
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4674 Oct  3 12:11 ccreply.rex



I presume your current directory is owned by root and not writable by you.
  


Yes.

Since you're using ksh, try whence -v cp rm.


$ whence -v rm cp
rm is a tracked alias for /bin/rm
cp is a tracked alias for /bin/cp

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Re: cp error message Invalid character in program

2008-10-04 Thread Jack Woehr

Philip Guenther wrote:

What's the output of
  ktrace rm ccreply.rex
  kdump | egrep -A1 -B2 'execv|errno'
  

You answered it.

Look here:

16524 rm   CALL  open(0xcfbd1e60,0,0)
16524 rm   NAMI  /opt/ooRexx/bin/rexx.cat 

Hmm ...

$ set | grep NLSPATH
NLSPATH=/opt/ooRexx/bin/rexx.cat:

Oops. Changed NLSPATH to accomodate Rexx. So now my error messages
come from Rexx's error msg file. *{{Whack}}*

Between trying to make OORexx and BSF4Rexx work on OpenBSD so I can stop
booting OpenSolaris to do Rexx/Java development on my PigIron project, I 
think I'm

losing my mind.

Thanks for all the help!

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Re: DNS confusion about www.oorexx.org

2008-10-02 Thread Jack Woehr

Bryan Irvine wrote:
A total shot in the dark 


Bryan  al.  thanks. Matthew Dempsky and Brian Keefer have helped
debug and it looks to be a bogus CNAME on one of PlanetDomain's name
servers:

   bash-3.00$ dig @ns1.planetdomain.com. www.oorexx.org cname

   ;  DiG 9.2.4  @ns1.planetdomain.com. www.oorexx.org cname
   ;; global options:  printcmd
   ;; Got answer:
   ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 628
   ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

   ;; QUESTION SECTION:
   ;www.oorexx.org.IN  CNAME

   ;; ANSWER SECTION:
   www.oorexx.org. 86400   IN  CNAME   208.34.240.200.

   ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
   oorexx.org. 2560IN  SOA
   ns1.planetdomain.com. hostmaster.planetdomain.com. 2008100301 10800

   3600 604800 3600

   ;; Query time: 276 msec
   ;; SERVER: 202.131.95.2#53(ns1.planetdomain.com.)
   ;; WHEN: Thu Oct  2 13:13:11 2008
   ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 127


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Re: hackathon

2007-05-19 Thread Jack Woehr

Theo de Raadt wrote:

A HP XFP SR-optic 10GE module for a HP 3500yl switch which already has
the 10Gb card installed. If anyone can help us with getting this to
us, we'd love it.

Yes, we know they are very expensive. Brutal, in fact.

Hmm, $2,822.97 at http://keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?id=741395 (if Google
has indeed found me the correct product :-))

I pledge $100 towards this if this becomes a buy instead of a gimme.

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Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK

2006-09-09 Thread Jack Woehr

/bsd single kernel traps on my box during 'make obj' in /usr/src:

((
OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep  1 11:54:27 MDT 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
))
...
=== sbin/restore
/usr/src/sbin/restore/obj - /usr/obj/sbin/restore
uvm_fault(0xd073ff00, 0xd200, 0, 3) - e
kernel: page fault trap, code=0
Stopped at: uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155: movl%eax,0x4(%ecx)
ddb

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Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK

2006-09-09 Thread Jack Woehr

It's been pointed out my trap report was inadequate (Thanks Jonathan Gray).
I have reproduced the problem. Here is a better report (typed in by hand,
since I haven't figured out this modern all-USB mboard with no regular
comm port).

/bsd single kernel traps on my box during 'make obj' in /usr/src:

((
OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep  1 11:54:27 MDT 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
))
...
[ Last time it happened at === sbin/restore .. this time ]
[ at == /usr/sbin/ypserve/mknetid]

uvm_fault(0xd073ff00, 0xd200, 0, 3) - e
kernel: page fault trap, code=0
Stopped at: uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155: movl%eax,0x4(%ecx)
ddb ps
   PID  PPIDPGRPUID S   FLAGS   WAITCOMMAND
*17788   5392   14645   0   7   0x4006  make
  5392   8533   14645   0   3   0x86pause   sh
  8533  30238   14645   0   3   0x4086  pause   sh
 30238   1844   14645   0   3   0x4086  waitmake
  1844   7917   14645   0   3   0x86pause   sh
  7917  30539   14645   0   3   0x4086  pause   sh
 30539  20299   14645   0   3   0x4086  waitmake
 20372  14645   14645   0   3   0x4086  pause   sh
 14645  19375   14645   0   3   0x4086  waitmake
 19375   1671   19375   0   3   0x4086  pause   ksh
 23957  1   23957   0   3   0x4086  ttyin   getty
 31189  1   31189   0   3   0x4086  ttyin   getty
 17575  1   17575   0   3   0x4086  ttyin   getty
 31000  1   31000   0   3   0x4086  ttyin   getty
  1671  11671   10003   0x4086  pause   ksh
 29412  1   29412   0   3   0x84select  cron
  3834  13834   0   3   0x40184 select  sendmail
 12364  1   12364   0   3   0x84select  sshd
  7484  1   74840   3   0x184   select  inetd
   937  19045   19045   73  2   0x184   syslogd
 19045  1   19045   0   3   0x8cnetio   syslogd
19  0   0   0   30x100204   crypto_wa crypto
18  0   0   0   30x100204   aiodoned aiodoned
17  0   0   0   30x100204   syncer  update
16  0   0   0   30x100204   cleaner cleaner
15  0   0   0   30x100204   reaper  reaper
14  0   0   0   30x100204   pgdaemon pagedaemon
13  0   0   0   30x100204   pftmpfpurge
12  0   0   0   30x100204   waitwskbd_hotkey
11  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb6
10  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb5
 9  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb4
 8  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb3
 7  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb2
 6  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb1
 5  0   0   0   30x100204   usbtsk  usbtask
 4  0   0   0   30x100204   usbevt  usb0
 3  0   0   0   30x100204   apmev   apm0
 2  0   0   0   30x100204   kmalloc kthread
 1  0   1   0   3 0x4084waitinit
 0 -1   0   0   30x80204scheduler swapper
ddb trace
uvm_pagealloc_strat(0,0,0,ec6cacc0,2,0,0,1) at uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155
uvm_fault(da435374,851a3000,0,3,0) at uvm_fault+0x946
trap() at trap+0x255
--- trap (number 6) 
0x1bb18e3:
ddb

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Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK

2006-09-08 Thread Jack Woehr

Stuart Henderson wrote:


Good luck with the serial cables :-)
Stuart
 


Figured out my problem. Doesn't have a regular serial port.
Just USB.

Oh well, here's a few lines of the screen typed in manually from
a bsd.mp boot. Happens just after em0 loads okay.
...
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
uvm_fault(0xd0769720, 0x0, 0, 1) - e
kernel: page fault trap, code=0
Stopped at  mpbios_invent+0x42:movl   0xc(%eax),%eax
ddb{0}
...

If this helps, here's the dmesg when I boot bsd instead of bsd.mp:

OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep  1 11:54:27 MDT 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 
2.14 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16

cpu0: unknown Core FSB_FREQ value 0 (0x4208)
cpu0: EST: unknown system bus clock
real mem  = 2128347136 (2078464K)
avail mem = 1933385728 (1888072K)
using 4256 buffers containing 106520576 bytes (104024K) of memory
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 06/27/06, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 
0xe4390 (35 entries)

bios0: Intel Corporation DP965LT
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: battery life expectancy 0%
apm0: AC off, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios at bios0 function 0x1a not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf000! 0xcf000/0x1000 0xd/0x1000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a0 
rev 0x02
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a1 rev 
0x02

pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 rev 0xa2
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a4 (class communications subclass 
miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH8 IGP C rev 0x02: irq 9, 
address 00:16:76:9d:d7:01

uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 10
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x02: irq 9
azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0
azalia0: codec: 0x04x/0x8384 (rev. 2.1), HDA version 1.0
audio0 at azalia0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
pciide0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 vendor Marvell, unknown product 
0x6101 rev 0xb1: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI, 
channel 1 configured to native-PCI

pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SONY, DVD RW DW-Q120A, PYS1 SCSI0 
5/cdrom removable

pciide0: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?)
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02
pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
ppb5 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02
pci6 at ppb5 bus 6
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4
uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb5 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0
uhub5 at usb5
uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11
usb6 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub6 at usb6
uhub6: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub6: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ppb6 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0xf2
pci7 at ppb6 bus 7
TI TSB43AB22 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci7 dev 3 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801H LPC rev 0x02
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801H SATA rev 0x02: DMA, 

Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK

2006-08-26 Thread Jack Woehr
I'd like to build an OBSD box based on Intel BOXDP965LTCK Main Board 
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm  
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm with one

Intel Core2 Duo E6400 CPU.

My interpretation from searches of the mailing lists is that this is not
explicitly supported and that average users who have tried the latest
Intel Core Duo CPU mb's have not been successful. (True, he asks?)

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mediawiki - php - apache

2006-02-01 Thread Jack Woehr
I'm confused ... I built /usr/ports/www/mediawiki but php (built 
automagically

as a pre-req) doesn't seem to work in the server. Do I have to change the
default OBSD 3.8 web server config (or chrooting) to run PHP stuff?

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Re: mediawiki - php - apache

2006-02-01 Thread Jack Woehr

Thanks everyone for helping me get mediawiki started ... sorta ...
but I have one problem left ... mysqld isn't installed.


ports/www/mediawiki descended into ports/databases/mysql, but even
though that dir *builds* the mysqld, it only installs the client. What 
do I have

to do to get mysqld installed and running?

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Apache not following symlinks

2005-12-17 Thread Jack Woehr

Seems to me I solved this one before about four years ago, but ...

OBSD 3.8 w/ the installed Apache httpd doesn't follow my symlinks,
e.g., /var/www/htdocs/doc/ is a link to /usr/local/doc but no love
on http://localhost:/doc

FollowSymLinks is there in httpd.conf ... all the dirs and fiels seem
to have okay permissions. What obvious thing that I figured out
already years ago am I forgetting, please?

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Re: Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?

2005-12-15 Thread Jack Woehr

Bryan Irvine wrote:


On 12/14/05, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client (if one
exists) other than Mozilla?
   


Want to stay in gui-ville?  I recommend evolution.
 


Thanks to everyone for the lively discussion and many recommendations.
I'm playing with sylpheed (Thanks, Bill!) right now and in the meantime
fetchmailing and sanitizing manually before feeding mail files to 
Mozilla ...


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Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?

2005-12-14 Thread Jack Woehr
Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client (if one 
exists) other than Mozilla?


Years ago I hopped directly from Elm on a host server to graphic mail 
clients on my desktop
box without ever dealing with, e.g., mutt  setting up sendmail. Now 
Mozilla 1.7.2 crashes hard
on receiving a particularly noxious piece of spam I've been getting a 
lot of and I'm ready to
deal with changing mail clients. I'm just hoping to get around this 
without weeks of learning how

to configure sendmail for mutt ...

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Re: Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?

2005-12-14 Thread Jack Woehr

Simon Morgan wrote:


I recommend Sylpheed Claws. BTW I hope you filed a bug report for that crash. :)


 


Bugzilla for Mozilla says don't bother for releases over two weeks old.

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