OpenBSD Tablet-ish
What's the smallest, most tablet-ish device I can put OpenBSD on? Want to travel and stay connected. -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Shor
Re: OpenBSD Tablet-ish
Robert wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:23:47 -0600 Luis Coronado lcoron...@ticoit.com wrote: sharp zaurus? Anything that can be acquired outside of a museum? ;) Thanks everyone, Luis, Christopher, Robert, for all the ideas, and keep 'em coming if anyone has any more. I may not be able reply if any q's are asked until Monday, thanks again.. -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: integrity of commercial CD set
Theo de Raadt wrote: Finding them inside the global shipping system is easier than you think One of the joys of growing old is watching the really bad sci fi you read as a youth all come true :) -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: Discovering the keycode of key.
Eduardo Lopes wrote: May someone point to me how do I can obtain, in the console, the keycode of any particular key, in OpenBSD? in gforth (a port) you can do KEY . -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: USB hub stopped working
patrick keshishian wrote: Hi Martin, On 11/25/14, Martin Pieuchot mpieuc...@nolizard.org wrote: Hello Patrick, On 24/11/14(Mon) 23:48, patrick keshishian wrote: Hi, I have this USB hub, which is connected to my desktop PC; External powered? Is it plugged in? Excuse me for asking. -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: The Dao of pf?
Steve Litt wrote: This time, I'd like to understand what I'm doing a little more. What are some broad principles of pf? Does pf have an overarching philosophy or architecture? Read the book :) http://www.amazon.com/Book-PF-No-Nonsense-OpenBSD-Firewall/dp/1593275897/ref=asap_B001JPCK0S_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1414126274sr=1-1 -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: nobody spoke up, about today?
STeve Andre' wrote: Happy birthday, OpenBSD! Also John Le Carré's birthday. Coincidence? :) -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: OpenBSD 5.5: question regarding pf syntax
andy wrote: I have what I hope is a simple syntax question for pf rules. BTW 3rd edition about to be released. The Book of PF In the third edition of The Book of PF (No Starch Press, Oct 2014, 248 pp., $34.95), author Peter N.M. Hansteen returns with more of the life-saving PF and BSD help that made the first two editions such a hit. With the help of this fast-paced, clear, instructional guide, readers will master the latest PF developments to build strong and secure networks better able to handle today's network demands. -- Jack Woehr # There's too much emphasis on things Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # like pawn structure in modern chess. http://www.softwoehr.com # Checkmate ends the game. - N. Short
Re: Why are there NSA, CSIS, and GOOGLE IDs in my ftplist.cgi
Theo de Raadt wrote: 1 person noticed. Took about 6 years. Clark Kent, you're a real SOB when you're drunk! :) -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: SHA file missing on CD1 of OpenBSD 5.5
Ted Unangst wrote: It's pretty difficult to create CDs that both contain signatures and are themselves signed. Yeah, you'd have to replace SHA with something like Ouroboros :) -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: OpenBSD on IBM Power
Nick Holland wrote: There's a lot of reasons developers can be interested in particular hardware The P series are perfectly good systems for AIX, Linux, and i Series OS (OS400). They would also be fine for OpenBSD if there were any call for that, but in the IBM community, the open-source *nix niche was filled in the 1999 by IBM mutineers creating a Linux port. The technology spread from the 390 to the AS400 and the P series (which latter subsumed the AS400). All attempts to revisit the issue of *nix-on-IBM-big-iron have been spectacularly unsuccessful at gaining adherents, e.g., the excellent SOL390 (Open Solaris for mainframes) port was born only to die a lonely death. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
OpenSSL heartbleed ?
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/382068,serious-openssl-bug-renders-websites-wide-open.aspx accurate w/r/t 5.3? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: OpenSSL heartbleed ?
Josh Grosse wrote: Please read: http://www.openbsd.org/errata53.html and note item #14. You may download the patch from there or for your convenience: http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/5.3/common/014_openssl.patch You may also want to read the article published by the OpenBSD Journal: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20140408063423 Thanks for the update. Should have read the errata list first. I'm getting old and slow. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: OpenBSD Website, multilanguage faq
I would volunteer to translate the FAQ into Bazgelootz, a language my wife and daughter and I made up over 25 years around the dinner table, but they don't use OpenBSD. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Request for Funding our Electricity
Daniel Cegiełka wrote: http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure Why do not you do such a campaign? I think Theo has answered this previously. His point was that he doesn't want to spend his time year after year running campaigns. Being neither a politician nor a diplomat nor a grantmaster, he wants a sustainable model. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Request for Funding our Electricity
Bob Beck wrote: so it's not a source of sustainable funding, unless we were to do something like introduce an annual quota of bugs http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-13/ -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?
Christopher Ahrens wrote: Wish I could split everything off to physical, but all I have for space for is a mini-rack that fits under my desk in my apartment Sounds like you have answered your own question! -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: NSA spy catalog
Erling Westenvik wrote: Anyway: When can we expect OpenBSD support for these devices? Erling made my day :) -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Are there OpenBSD users who are not IT professionals?
za...@gmx.com wrote: I have decided to adopt OpenBSD and use it for simple day-to-day tasks, as a desktop OS (as I would any popular Linux distribution). Does this choice of mine, and its underlying reasoning, make sense? Yes, it does most of the stuff Linux does, mostly except where prevented from doing so by closed source of the sort acceptable to Linux but not to OpenBSD Are there any significant drawbacks to my adoption of OpenBSD (such as OpenBSD being too technical and too difficult, as compared, say, to Linux distros)? It is a tad more technical. It is not hideously difficult. It's fast enough to install and try that you might as well grab a spare computer and try it once. Read the directions, they're concise and accurate. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: time_t
Theo de Raadt wrote: double (or even better long double) would be a better underlying type for time_t than long long. If you believe strongly in this idea, you should take an entire operating system base and prove the case 15 years ago a gen-yoo-wine software engineer in our department suggested an optimization in an often-executed loop in our code. The curmudgeonly architect/programmer lowered his eyeglasses and stared across the table. And if we make this change, he said, and it passes testing, and is pushed to all our customers, each of them will save, oh, 1.5 seconds of execution time per year. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Hardware backdoors in Lenovo?
Michael Motyka wrote: Meanwhile, even the new Beagle Bone has ~120KB of secure code and hands off execution to the user in non-secure supervisor mode. It's probably that way for my own good. Sigh. I may try to get past that since it's a cool little board. http://www.colorforth.com/ -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Java on OpenBSD 5.3
Miod Vallat wrote: Pretty sure it takes more than 1.7G to build Java. But then how can java people pretend it has any usefulness, besides filing disks? Miod métaphysico-théologo-cosmolo-nigologie :) Language wars are s-o-o-o 20th century. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Java on OpenBSD 5.3
openda...@hushmail.com wrote: On 19. juli 2013 at 3:17 PM, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: plenty of disk space left in /usr/local (my ports are in /usr/local/ports). /dev/wd0h 3.7G1.8G1.7G52%/usr/local Pretty sure it takes more than 1.7G to build Java. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Boning the Troll
Notice that Thomas is also Jash of the OpenBSD Doesn't Support 64-Bit Intel troll which turns out to be word-for-word yet another posting on the previously cited troll blog site whose URL I will not reproduce here. Apparently we're dealing here with a dedicated (professional?) agent provacateur. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: out-of-order TCP
Peter Bisroev wrote: Maybe I am missing something but how come there are so many out of order packets? What's missing may be methodical forensics. Can you monitor the incoming via some other device and see if they come out of the wall socket out of order? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: OpenBSD official reference book ( like FreeBSD handbook / NetBSD Guide )
Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi, TRUNASUCI TRUNASUCI wrote on Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:01:03AM -0400: I just wanna ask if there is a project for this official refernce book for all users ( if any please inform ). If you want to buy a very helpful book, _Absolute OpenBSD_ from No Starch Press just made second edition. I have the Kindle version to review and will be reviewing on Amazon soon. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: OpenBSD official reference book ( like FreeBSD handbook / NetBSD Guide )
Michael W. Lucas wrote: I should mention here: the Kindle conversion of AO2e had problems. Every Kindle book converted from print I have ever read does have problems. One of the worst was the chess book _The Life and Times of Mikhail Tal_. (my review of same: http://www.amazon.com/review/RX0JLQ3WC3KHW/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm) I have pointed out several already in your 2nd Ed. to the publisher! -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Legal Question: OpenBSD Spin-off
Crookedmaze wrote: On 02/10/2013 06:47 PM, Rod Whitworth wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:09:56 -0600, Maximo Pech wrote: Well, installing openbsd is not what I'd call easy for people with few technical skills. Crap! It is well documented and very little data needs to be typed in as most input can be done by accepting the default. If you need OpenBSD you have the technical skills to install it or you know (and possibly pay) someone who does. OpenBSD, which is 20-ish years old now, was designed and is designed and apparently always will be designed for those who have the technical skills. If no, there is always Linux. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
Theo de Raadt wrote: It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames should be lower case by default. Tis a gift to be simple ... every time plane vanilla admin is warped to enable some unnecessary feature that tickles the user's fancy, eventually problems emerge. Why look for trouble? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader
Eric Oyen wrote: they have. however, thermoform paper is actually more expensive than standard paper stock. Ah. Real-world economics scotches another clever techno solution :( -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader
Eric Oyen wrote: btw, an actual braille embosser (a monster braille printer) costs about $10K. Hmm, sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity making a cheaper unit. What's the input? Unicode? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader
Eric Oyen wrote: 120 pound bond paper is rather hard on the print heads they use (and its the only stuff that will reasonably hold braille). Bond paper is traditional. Haven't they figured out a way to emboss thin sheets of polymer yet? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader
Amit Kulkarni wrote: completely don't understand why there is still no braile terminal available. Especially since they were invented back in the 1980's (at the latest). I played with a prototype at a meeting of the Forth Interest Group circa 1987. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Calomel.org
Weldon Goree wrote: mdoc(7) (the suggested format) Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for mdoc format? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Calomel.org
Ingo Schwarze wrote: The mdoc(7) language is quite easy. Fascinating exposition ... I guessed the nature of the language from the example. A generation better than groff format-based concept. As with any language, maturing your style will take a bit longer. Well, not sure how much more my style will mature. Recently passed 60th birthday and spend most of these days playing music, chess, and with grandchildren :) Yours, Ingo Nice to chat with you again, Ingo. Keep up your excellent work. -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Calomel.org
Marc Espie wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:46:24PM -0600, Jack Woehr wrote: Weldon Goree wrote: mdoc(7) (the suggested format) Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for mdoc format? vi !Gmandoc|more u funny guy :) -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: is application goes to sleep?
lilit-aibolit wrote: Hi misc, please send me to the right way. I have java-application: https://bitbucket.org/sdorra/scm-manager/wiki/Home It has stoped answering after one week from the start, Your question is beyond the scope of this mailing list. We only answer questions directly about OpenBSD. If your application is a port in the /usr/ports tree you might get help at po...@openbsd.org. It sounds like your java application has a bug. The author(s) of your java application should have their own support mailing list. In any case, that which you say, that the application is still present in the process list and holds the port, is certainly possible. A server daemon in java or in any other language which had a bug could certainly behave that way. Good luck! -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
GPIO and rc.securelevel
gpioctl(8) man page says: Only pins that have been configured at securelevel 0, typically during system startup, are accessible once the securelevel has been raised. However, /etc/rc.securelevel first says securelevel=1 and only then # Place local actions here. Should I put gpioctl statements before the securelevel=1 statement or is the man page in error, please? -- Jack Woehr # I'm not lazy, I'm useless. Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # There's a big difference. http://www.softwoehr.com # - Wally (Dilbert 20110318)
Re: GPIO and rc.securelevel
Christopher Zimmermann wrote: place them after the comment. securelevel=1 is just a variable assignment, which is used in /etc/rc, which sources /etc/rc.securelevel. Thanks ... are there also undocumented flags? I have a user who is using the invocation /usr/sbin/gpioctl -q -d /dev/gpio1 -c 4 set out od jp5pin12; and it seems to sort of work but I can't find the -c option in the manual. -- Jack Woehr # I'm not lazy, I'm useless. Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # There's a big difference. http://www.softwoehr.com # - Wally (Dilbert 20110318)
Re: GPIO and rc.securelevel
Stuart Henderson wrote: They are using code from 2008 or earlier. My bad. Using three different OBSD machines at different levels, man gpioctl on wrong one :( Thanks, Stuart. -- Jack Woehr # I'm not lazy, I'm useless. Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # There's a big difference. http://www.softwoehr.com # - Wally (Dilbert 20110318)
TBB on OBSD
Anyone working with TBB ( http://www.threadingbuildingblocks.org/ ) on OpenBSD? -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: cp error message Invalid character in program
jared r r spiegel wrote: $ cp file file.bak as far as 'wtf is going on with cp(1)', maybe would've hinted at you are executing something other than /bin/cp earlier in the game. Wasn't executing something other than. Was getting NLS error messages for OBSD commands from the Object Rexx message file. Very silly. Working too hard, starting to ask foolish questions on the list! My apologies. -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
cp error message Invalid character in program
I'm experiencing something with 4.3 I never experienced before, or maybe I just wasn't paying attention. In the following example, I'm trying to copy a file (wrongly) in a directory I don't own and which is write-protected: cp factor.rex factor.rex.bak cp: factor.rex.bak: Invalid character in program Invalid character in program?? rm also returns this when I use rm illegally. Was it always like this? -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: cp error message Invalid character in program
Philip Guenther wrote: Hmm, I don't see that error message in the stock /bin/cp or /bin/rm. Are you running your own version of them or have shell script wrappers for them or something? What's the output of which cp rm? Is it maybe builtin to ksh? Besides, the error message is probably from a runtime lib, right? Anway: $ echo $SHELL /bin/ksh $ which rm /bin/rm $ ls -l ccreply.rex -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4674 Oct 3 12:11 ccreply.rex $ whoami jax $ rm ccreply.rex override rwxr-xr-x root/wheel for ccreply.rex? y rm: ccreply.rex: Invalid character in program $ uname -a OpenBSD elephant.jaxrcfb 4.3 4.3#0 i386 -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: cp error message Invalid character in program
Paul de Weerd wrote: Also compare the md5 sum of your /bin/rm with the sum from a clean install of 4.3 (assuming this is a -RELEASE version you're running). It's 4.3 release but I did rebuild from freshly checked out source. Both the release and the checkout came from ftp3.usa.openbsd.org So did my Sparc64 install and it does not exhibit this behavior. I have built a lot of ports. Full jdk6, full kde, etc. I wonder if I'm hacked. $ ls -l /bin/rm -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 174016 Aug 23 16:03 /bin/rm $ md5 /bin/rm MD5 (/bin/rm) = 9c46f6ee1c8234e3469ea2d461536c17 -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: cp error message Invalid character in program
Philip Guenther wrote: Perhaps, but /bin/rm and /bin/cp are staticly linked, so the message would appear in the binary in some form. strings /bin /rm doesn't show that string. Anway: $ echo $SHELL /bin/ksh $ which rm /bin/rm $ ls -l ccreply.rex -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4674 Oct 3 12:11 ccreply.rex I presume your current directory is owned by root and not writable by you. Yes. Since you're using ksh, try whence -v cp rm. $ whence -v rm cp rm is a tracked alias for /bin/rm cp is a tracked alias for /bin/cp -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: cp error message Invalid character in program
Philip Guenther wrote: What's the output of ktrace rm ccreply.rex kdump | egrep -A1 -B2 'execv|errno' You answered it. Look here: 16524 rm CALL open(0xcfbd1e60,0,0) 16524 rm NAMI /opt/ooRexx/bin/rexx.cat Hmm ... $ set | grep NLSPATH NLSPATH=/opt/ooRexx/bin/rexx.cat: Oops. Changed NLSPATH to accomodate Rexx. So now my error messages come from Rexx's error msg file. *{{Whack}}* Between trying to make OORexx and BSF4Rexx work on OpenBSD so I can stop booting OpenSolaris to do Rexx/Java development on my PigIron project, I think I'm losing my mind. Thanks for all the help! -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: DNS confusion about www.oorexx.org
Bryan Irvine wrote: A total shot in the dark Bryan al. thanks. Matthew Dempsky and Brian Keefer have helped debug and it looks to be a bogus CNAME on one of PlanetDomain's name servers: bash-3.00$ dig @ns1.planetdomain.com. www.oorexx.org cname ; DiG 9.2.4 @ns1.planetdomain.com. www.oorexx.org cname ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 628 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.oorexx.org.IN CNAME ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.oorexx.org. 86400 IN CNAME 208.34.240.200. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: oorexx.org. 2560IN SOA ns1.planetdomain.com. hostmaster.planetdomain.com. 2008100301 10800 3600 604800 3600 ;; Query time: 276 msec ;; SERVER: 202.131.95.2#53(ns1.planetdomain.com.) ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 2 13:13:11 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 127 -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
Re: hackathon
Theo de Raadt wrote: A HP XFP SR-optic 10GE module for a HP 3500yl switch which already has the 10Gb card installed. If anyone can help us with getting this to us, we'd love it. Yes, we know they are very expensive. Brutal, in fact. Hmm, $2,822.97 at http://keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?id=741395 (if Google has indeed found me the correct product :-)) I pledge $100 towards this if this becomes a buy instead of a gimme. -- Jack J. Woehr# Hipsters believe that irony has http://www.well.com/~jax # more resonance than reason. http://www.softwoehr.com # - Robert Lanham
Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK
/bsd single kernel traps on my box during 'make obj' in /usr/src: (( OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep 1 11:54:27 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC )) ... === sbin/restore /usr/src/sbin/restore/obj - /usr/obj/sbin/restore uvm_fault(0xd073ff00, 0xd200, 0, 3) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 Stopped at: uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155: movl%eax,0x4(%ecx) ddb -- Jack J. Woehr # Men never do evil so completely and PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # cheerfully as when they do it from http://www.well.com/~jax # religious conviction. - Pascal
Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK
It's been pointed out my trap report was inadequate (Thanks Jonathan Gray). I have reproduced the problem. Here is a better report (typed in by hand, since I haven't figured out this modern all-USB mboard with no regular comm port). /bsd single kernel traps on my box during 'make obj' in /usr/src: (( OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep 1 11:54:27 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC )) ... [ Last time it happened at === sbin/restore .. this time ] [ at == /usr/sbin/ypserve/mknetid] uvm_fault(0xd073ff00, 0xd200, 0, 3) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 Stopped at: uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155: movl%eax,0x4(%ecx) ddb ps PID PPIDPGRPUID S FLAGS WAITCOMMAND *17788 5392 14645 0 7 0x4006 make 5392 8533 14645 0 3 0x86pause sh 8533 30238 14645 0 3 0x4086 pause sh 30238 1844 14645 0 3 0x4086 waitmake 1844 7917 14645 0 3 0x86pause sh 7917 30539 14645 0 3 0x4086 pause sh 30539 20299 14645 0 3 0x4086 waitmake 20372 14645 14645 0 3 0x4086 pause sh 14645 19375 14645 0 3 0x4086 waitmake 19375 1671 19375 0 3 0x4086 pause ksh 23957 1 23957 0 3 0x4086 ttyin getty 31189 1 31189 0 3 0x4086 ttyin getty 17575 1 17575 0 3 0x4086 ttyin getty 31000 1 31000 0 3 0x4086 ttyin getty 1671 11671 10003 0x4086 pause ksh 29412 1 29412 0 3 0x84select cron 3834 13834 0 3 0x40184 select sendmail 12364 1 12364 0 3 0x84select sshd 7484 1 74840 3 0x184 select inetd 937 19045 19045 73 2 0x184 syslogd 19045 1 19045 0 3 0x8cnetio syslogd 19 0 0 0 30x100204 crypto_wa crypto 18 0 0 0 30x100204 aiodoned aiodoned 17 0 0 0 30x100204 syncer update 16 0 0 0 30x100204 cleaner cleaner 15 0 0 0 30x100204 reaper reaper 14 0 0 0 30x100204 pgdaemon pagedaemon 13 0 0 0 30x100204 pftmpfpurge 12 0 0 0 30x100204 waitwskbd_hotkey 11 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb6 10 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb5 9 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb4 8 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb3 7 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb2 6 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb1 5 0 0 0 30x100204 usbtsk usbtask 4 0 0 0 30x100204 usbevt usb0 3 0 0 0 30x100204 apmev apm0 2 0 0 0 30x100204 kmalloc kthread 1 0 1 0 3 0x4084waitinit 0 -1 0 0 30x80204scheduler swapper ddb trace uvm_pagealloc_strat(0,0,0,ec6cacc0,2,0,0,1) at uvm_pagealloc_strat+0x155 uvm_fault(da435374,851a3000,0,3,0) at uvm_fault+0x946 trap() at trap+0x255 --- trap (number 6) 0x1bb18e3: ddb -- Jack J. Woehr # Men never do evil so completely and PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # cheerfully as when they do it from http://www.well.com/~jax # religious conviction. - Pascal
Re: Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK
Stuart Henderson wrote: Good luck with the serial cables :-) Stuart Figured out my problem. Doesn't have a regular serial port. Just USB. Oh well, here's a few lines of the screen typed in manually from a bsd.mp boot. Happens just after em0 loads okay. ... pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found uvm_fault(0xd0769720, 0x0, 0, 1) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 Stopped at mpbios_invent+0x42:movl 0xc(%eax),%eax ddb{0} ... If this helps, here's the dmesg when I boot bsd instead of bsd.mp: OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1104: Fri Sep 1 11:54:27 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.14 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16 cpu0: unknown Core FSB_FREQ value 0 (0x4208) cpu0: EST: unknown system bus clock real mem = 2128347136 (2078464K) avail mem = 1933385728 (1888072K) using 4256 buffers containing 106520576 bytes (104024K) of memory RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 06/27/06, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe4390 (35 entries) bios0: Intel Corporation DP965LT apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 0% apm0: AC off, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios at bios0 function 0x1a not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf000! 0xcf000/0x1000 0xd/0x1000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a0 rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a1 rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 rev 0xa2 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) vendor Intel, unknown product 0x29a4 (class communications subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH8 IGP C rev 0x02: irq 9, address 00:16:76:9d:d7:01 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 10 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x02: irq 9 azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0 azalia0: codec: 0x04x/0x8384 (rev. 2.1), HDA version 1.0 audio0 at azalia0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 pciide0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 vendor Marvell, unknown product 0x6101 rev 0xb1: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SONY, DVD RW DW-Q120A, PYS1 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable pciide0: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 ppb5 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci6 at ppb5 bus 6 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb5 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 usb6 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub6 at usb6 uhub6: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub6: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ppb6 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0xf2 pci7 at ppb6 bus 7 TI TSB43AB22 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci7 dev 3 function 0 not configured pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801H LPC rev 0x02 pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801H SATA rev 0x02: DMA,
Intel Core2 Duo E6400 BOXDP965LTCK
I'd like to build an OBSD box based on Intel BOXDP965LTCK Main Board http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm with one Intel Core2 Duo E6400 CPU. My interpretation from searches of the mailing lists is that this is not explicitly supported and that average users who have tried the latest Intel Core Duo CPU mb's have not been successful. (True, he asks?) -- Jack J. Woehr # Men never do evil so completely and PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # cheerfully as when they do it from http://www.well.com/~jax # religious conviction. - Pascal
mediawiki - php - apache
I'm confused ... I built /usr/ports/www/mediawiki but php (built automagically as a pre-req) doesn't seem to work in the server. Do I have to change the default OBSD 3.8 web server config (or chrooting) to run PHP stuff? -- Jack J. Woehr # Men never do evil so completely and PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # cheerfully as when they do it from http://www.well.com/~jax # religious conviction. - Pascal
Re: mediawiki - php - apache
Thanks everyone for helping me get mediawiki started ... sorta ... but I have one problem left ... mysqld isn't installed. ports/www/mediawiki descended into ports/databases/mysql, but even though that dir *builds* the mysqld, it only installs the client. What do I have to do to get mysqld installed and running? -- Jack J. Woehr # Men never do evil so completely and PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # cheerfully as when they do it from http://www.well.com/~jax # religious conviction. - Pascal
Apache not following symlinks
Seems to me I solved this one before about four years ago, but ... OBSD 3.8 w/ the installed Apache httpd doesn't follow my symlinks, e.g., /var/www/htdocs/doc/ is a link to /usr/local/doc but no love on http://localhost:/doc FollowSymLinks is there in httpd.conf ... all the dirs and fiels seem to have okay permissions. What obvious thing that I figured out already years ago am I forgetting, please? -- Jack J. Woehr # I never played fast and loose with the PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # Constitution. Never did and never will. http://www.well.com/~jax # - Harry S Truman
Re: Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?
Bryan Irvine wrote: On 12/14/05, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client (if one exists) other than Mozilla? Want to stay in gui-ville? I recommend evolution. Thanks to everyone for the lively discussion and many recommendations. I'm playing with sylpheed (Thanks, Bill!) right now and in the meantime fetchmailing and sanitizing manually before feeding mail files to Mozilla ... -- Jack J. Woehr # I never played fast and loose with the PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # Constitution. Never did and never will. http://www.well.com/~jax # - Harry S Truman
Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?
Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client (if one exists) other than Mozilla? Years ago I hopped directly from Elm on a host server to graphic mail clients on my desktop box without ever dealing with, e.g., mutt setting up sendmail. Now Mozilla 1.7.2 crashes hard on receiving a particularly noxious piece of spam I've been getting a lot of and I'm ready to deal with changing mail clients. I'm just hoping to get around this without weeks of learning how to configure sendmail for mutt ... -- Jack J. Woehr # I never played fast and loose with the PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # Constitution. Never did and never will. http://www.well.com/~jax # - Harry S Truman
Re: Recommendations for another POP3/IMAP/SMTP mail reader client?
Simon Morgan wrote: I recommend Sylpheed Claws. BTW I hope you filed a bug report for that crash. :) Bugzilla for Mozilla says don't bother for releases over two weeks old. -- Jack J. Woehr # I never played fast and loose with the PO Box 51, Golden, CO 80402 # Constitution. Never did and never will. http://www.well.com/~jax # - Harry S Truman