Re: is the Lemote Yeeloong available in the US?

2010-02-04 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:16:27AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
[...]
 If you want to move things forward, please get jasper@ a machine. We
 need ports!
 
   -Otto

Thanks to two generous donors I will be able to buy a Yeeloong now.

Cheers,
Jasper

-- 
Intelligence should guide our actions, but in harmony with the
  texture of the situation at hand
-- Francisco Varela



Re: apple alu keyboard

2008-11-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 01:10:28PM +0200, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Anyoneone on the list use an usb apple alu keyboard (the last one) ? I
 would like to use one on openbsd (french version of the keyboard) and
 would like to know if it could work.
 
 - benont
hi,

i've got the MB110N/A Apple Keyboard, which works just fine.
although i didn't bother yet to bind all the non-standard keys to do
funky actions ;-)

uhub6 at uhub0 port 4 Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub rev 2.00/96.15 addr 2
uhidev2 at uhub6 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard 
rev 2.00/0.67 addr 3
uhidev2: iclass 3/1
ukbd1 at uhidev2: 8 modifier keys, 5 key codes, country code 13
wskbd2 at ukbd1 mux 1
wskbd2: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev3 at uhub6 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard 
rev 2.00/0.67 addr 3
uhidev3: iclass 3/0
uhid0 at uhidev3: input=1, output=0, feature=0

cheers,
jasper

-- 
Intelligence should guide our actions, but in harmony with the
  texture of the situation at hand
-- Francisco Varela



Re: gnome-display-properties for OpenBSD ?

2008-07-16 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 07:34:37PM -0700, my mail wrote:
 --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: gnome-display-properties for OpenBSD ?
 
 
  hi,
  
  yep, correct. please see
  http://openbsd.org/faq/current.html for more
  details.
  
  cheers,
  jasper
  
 
 hi jasper, i have set up OpenBSD installation for -current branch, and have 
 testing gnome.
 
 but if i want using gnome-display-properties for -stable (4.3) branch how to 
 do it?
 i have search gnome-display-properties using google so i can compile in my 
 stable machine, but i can't found this source code.
 
 thx

seriously, don't go that way. mixing -stable with -current ports is bad.
and you'll be on your own.
it's part of x11/gnome/controlcenter2 fwiw.

cheers,
jasper
-- 
Intelligence should guide our actions, but in harmony with the
  texture of the situation at hand
-- Francisco Varela



Re: gnome-display-properties for OpenBSD ?

2008-07-14 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:38:15AM -0700, my mail wrote:
 is this packages exist in OpenBSD?
 i have install OpenBSD 4.3 and using gnome as X Window.
 
 In Fedora Core, i can using gnome-display-properties for change my 
 resolution, but in OpenBSD 4.3 i can't found it.
 
 i have install xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
 
 thx
hi,

thanks for this notice, i see why it is missing and i'll fix this
soonish ;-)

cheers,
jasper

-- 
Intelligence should guide our actions, but in harmony with the
  texture of the situation at hand
-- Francisco Varela



Re: Visual Boy Advance - compile problems

2008-05-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:16:34AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote:
 Hi,

 I use OpenBSD for almost all tasks I do, and one thing I tried is to
 compile the program Visual Boy Advance but I have a problem.

 This programs is a Nintendo (R) Game Boy Advance emulator and is open
 source. Here the link:

 http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/vba/VisualBoyAdvance-src-1.7.2.tar.gz

 The configure script tells me it can't found the libpng, but indeed I
 have installed the png package from ports. I tried to follow the
 configure script to find the place libpng should be, but I'm not skilled
 in this so I failed.  Has anybody compiled this source with success?

 Thanks for your time
 -Jesus
there's already a port of vba in emulators/vba.

cheers,
jasper

ps: wrt to the png problem, try adding
CONFIGURE_ENV=  CPPFLAGS=-I${LOCALBASE}/include/libpng
to future ports with that problem.

-- 
Intelligence should guide our actions, but in harmony with the
  texture of the situation at hand
-- Francisco Varela



Re: why am i only able to run Gnome in safe mode? (getting error)

2007-11-08 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:56:50AM +0200, Genadijus Paleckis wrote:
 take a look at http://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg50994.html

 badeguruji wrote:
 Hello,
 Please help OR guide to me to any resource which describes installing 
 gnome in clean clear steps on a new openBSD installation. (I am ready to 
 uninstall and reinstall gnome if needed)
 i tried to install gnome in below order:
 gnome-desktop-2.18.2p0:
 gnome-session-2.18.2p0
 gdm-2.18.2
 I am only able to run gnome is safe mode.
 This post has the exact issue i am facing (only error in the log file is 
 little different, which is shown below)
 http://www.webservertalk.com/message1134770.html
 --as per the solution in the above post user changed permissions on his 
 home dir. i am logging in as root. should i change my root permissions? 
 currently they are:
 drwx--  14 root  wheel 1024 Nov  7 07:01 root
 The errors in the log file:
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Nov  7 05:46:56 2007
 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
 New driver is i810
 (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
 (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0)
 FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should 
 be 1; fixing.
 FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should 
 be 1; fixing.
 # I am also getting below error on message log:
 Nov  7 00:12:46 ironhost gdm[12200]: gdm_slave_exec_script: Failed 
 starting: /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default
 please advice.
 thank you.
 BG
  
 ~~Kalyan-mastu~~
i'll have a look at this soon. thanks for reporting though.

cheers,
jasper

-- 
The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge.
 -- Bertrand Russel



Re: Ports changes web page is badly out of date

2007-09-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:29:56PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote:
 http://www.openbsd.org/portsplus/index.html
 
 which is referenced by
 
 http://www.openbsd.org/plus42.html
yeah, perhaps someone feels like start keeping portsplus up to date
from now on? please contact me if so.

cheers,
jasper

-- 
``Sapere aude!''



Re: General Question about OpenBSD

2007-05-24 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:45:37PM -0400, Suzuki Kawasaki wrote:
 If OpenBSD is the most uber secure why does it run on Solaris?
because we don't trust our own os, and secretly all run mirbsd. that's
why. we just happened to come across some free solaris cd's and decided
the webserver was going to run that.

 /topic Secure for the past `date`
i was thinking of this:
/topic don't bother us with your stupid questions

too bad we can't hop onto every irc network and change the topics of
every single #openbsd, just a minor detail though...



Re: Proposal for uname / cvs

2006-12-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Are you afraid of unleasing the powers of sed(1)?



Re: anyone know where I can get an IO-DATA USL-5P in the United States?

2006-10-06 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 12:38:05AM +0200, mickey wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 04:10:44PM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote:
  The subject line sez it all.
  
  I've been looking for a small embedded system to run OpenBSD on and very
  recent commits makes this look interesting.
 
 woman you are fast (:
 there is supposedly a piece sold in .eu (see landisk.html)
At least a couple of stores in .nl [1] and one in .at [2]. (The Plextor's)

Cheers,
Jasper

 but then nobody knows for sure... it's a japanese sex toy.
 cu
 -- 
 paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has 
 remained)
 

1: 
http://www.beslist.nl/computers/d130260/Plextor_Professional_Network_Hdd_(_PX-EH25L-T3_).html
2: 
http://www.1ashop.at/webshopServlet?searchCategory=0cmd=findensearchtext=plextorpage=1allwords=true
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NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl



Re: DVD to distribute OpenBSD Packages (Re: about signing OpenBSD packages)

2006-09-01 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 03:11:50PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 09:50:34AM +0800, Tito Mari Francis Esca?o wrote:
  On 9/1/06, Madars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...I do trust the packages that are on the CDs, but as
  space is limited, you can't put all of them there.
  Does the OpenBSD project consider the use of DVD to distribute the
  package set on a per architecture basis?
  IMHO can be in line with the project's objective of distributing the
  OS (and packages?) in CD (or in this case, DVD) sets to support the
  project.
  On the buyer's side, it guarantees the reliability/authenticity of the
  packages; on the project's side, it's a new way of distributing OS
  support applications.
 
 Now *that* would suck. Most of my i386 boxes won't read a DVD, and I'm
 fairly certain that getting a sparc to read a DVD isn't as easy as
 making a i386 do the same.
That's one of the reasons it (probally) won't happen.
I'm looking forward to equip my iMac with a dvd-drive...

 
   Joachim
Jasper

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NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl



Re: Unable to find startxfce under OpenBSD/i386 3.9

2006-08-29 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:21:28PM +0400, Bruno Carnazzi wrote:
   Hi misc,
 
 I'd like to use Xfce4 as my main desktop environment, and I can't run
 it under OpenBSD :(
 
 I've installed the following packages through pkg_add(4) :
[...]
 xfcalendar-4.2.3p1  simple calendar application with reminders for xfce4
 xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3p1 settings manager for xfce4
 xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3p1 settings manager plug-ins for xfce4
 xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3p1 xfce4 application finder
 xfce4-battery-0.3.0p1 battery monitor panel plugin for xfce4
 xfce4-clipman-0.4.1p3 clipboard history plugin for the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-datetime-0.3.1p3 shows the date and time in the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-diskperf-1.5p3 displays instant disk performance in the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-fsguard-0.2.1p1 monitors a chosen mountpoint for free disk space
 xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3 icon theme for xfce4
 xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3p1 graphical alternative to xfce-utils taskbar
 xfce4-lua-graph-0.1 lua driven plugin for the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-minicmd-0.3.0p3 puts a small entry widget onto your panel
 xfce4-netload-0.3.3p1 displays load of a network interface in the xfce4 
 panel
 xfce4-notes-0.11.1p1 provides sticky notes for the desktop
 xfce4-panel-4.2.3p1 xfce4 panel
 xfce4-session-4.2.3p1 xfce4 session manager
 xfce4-showdesktop-0.4.0p4 hides/unhides all unsticky windows with one click
 xfce4-systemload-0.3.6p3 displays cpu/memory/swap/uptime in xfce4 panel
 xfce4-systray-4.2.3p1 xfce4 notification area/system tray for the panel
 xfce4-taskbar-0.2.2p4 taskbar plugin for the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-toys-4.2.3p1  tips/fortune dialog, xeyes for the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3p1 provides a toggle button showing on/off
 state for xfce4-panel
 xfce4-wavelan-0.4.1p3 displays stats from a WLAN interface
 xfce4-weather-0.4.9p4 see temperature/weather conditions on the xfce4 panel
 xfce4-xkb-0.3.2p2   xkb layout switcher panel plugin for xfce4
 xfdesktop-4.2.3p2
 xffm-4.2.3p3
 xfwm4-4.2.3.2p0
 xfwm4-themes-4.2.3  window decoration themes for xfwm4
 
 I can't find startxfce in /usr/local/bin or elsewhere. When X is
 started, I can run xffm and so on, but under fvwm ! :)
 
 Any idea ? What's the missing package ?
you need xfce-utils.

 
 Best regards,
 
 Bruno.
 
cheers,
Jasper

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NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl



Re: Multi-tabbed Terminal

2006-08-04 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:02:50AM -0700, Clint Pachl wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a light-weight multi-tabbed terminal for OBSD 3.9? 
 I looked through the i386 packages, but didn't notice any. I'm using FVWM2.
If I recall correctly ``sakura'' does it, I have a port lying around
here somewhere, but there were minor issue. Will look at it later.

cheers,
jasper

 
 I have used mrxvt, materm.sourceforge.net, on FreeBSD in the past and 
 really liked it; minimal dependencies and small memory foot print. I 
 just tried to compile mrxvt-0.4.2 on OBSD, but it failed.
 
 -pachl
 

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Re: a working nntp nzb application for openbsd?

2006-06-29 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 02:12:58PM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is anyone aware of a working nzb application for openbsd?
 I tried this one:
 http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2006-05/2429.html
 (http://humppa.nl/~jasper/nzb.tgz)
 The program builds but does not work! It does not make/create connections to 
 the nntp server.
I'm aware of this. But as my ISP's news-server is a bit fucked-up I
figured it was my ISP's fault. But I just made this port out of pure
boredom, and don't use nzb-shitz.

cheers,
Jasper

-- 
Humppa is a serious thing!
NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl/



Re: Anyone using a Asus K8N-VM or A8V-VM?

2006-06-25 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 05:29:55PM -0400, Frederick C. Druseikis wrote:
 Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse wrote:
 
 just a quick question, anyone running OpenBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8N-VM or
 A8V-VM motherboard? Things that work/don't work?
 
 
 Yes, I'm running -current on an A8V (it's full designation on the box is 
 A8V-UAYVZ) that I got about a month ago.  Started with 3.9-stable; went 
 to -current to check an X widows problem.
 
 I got the A8V model because of the VIA chipset (recommended in the 
 OpenBSD hardward list) and for the DDR-400 memory support.  I have 2GB 
 in it.  I was specifically looking for something that was not nvidia.
 
 I don't know if the audio works; dmesg is clean.
 
 Runs great.  No board problems at all. I am having some trouble with my 
 older nvidia graphics card (pci, not agp), which has a known driver problem.
 
 -Fred
Just ordered the A8V-MX, I'll post a dmesg soonish after I get the machine.

Cheers,
Jasper

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NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl/



Re: Anyone using a Asus K8N-VM or A8V-VM?

2006-06-24 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 06:03:22PM -0500, Emilio Perea wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 09:01:07AM +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse wrote:
  
  just a quick question, anyone running OpenBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8N-VM or
  A8V-VM motherboard? Things that work/don't work?
 
 I have been using an Asus A8V since February.  Had lots of problems at
 first, which seem to have been due to the use of the multiprocessor
 kernel with a PS/2 keyboard and mouse.  Had no problems with the plain
 bsd kernel, but it would freeze frequently with bsd.mp.  Changed memory,
 disk drives, video card and NIC, finally motherboard.  Nothing helped.
 
 Changing my favorite Keytronic keyboard for a cheap Dell USB keyboard,
 and have had no problems since.  I have noticed reports of problems with
 some servers with PS/2 keyboards and bsd.mp on this list, so whatever
 caused this may have been fixed in current, but I have not tried
 switching back to PS/2 keyboards.  May do that this weekend if I get a
 chance.  I have not used the sound card, so can't tell you if it works
 well, but everything else does now.
Thanks, though I won't be using SMP.

Cheers,
Jasper

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NedBSD: http://nedbsd.nl/



Anyone using a Asus K8N-VM or A8V-VM?

2006-06-22 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Hi,

just a quick question, anyone running OpenBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8N-VM or
A8V-VM motherboard? Things that work/don't work?

Thanks,
Jasper

A8N-VM: 
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3l2=15l3=231model=768modelmenu=1
A8V-VM: 
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3l2=15l3=0model=1003modelmenu=1

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Re: Connecting to Sun Ultra 5 over serial line

2006-05-19 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 11:01:02PM +0100, mal content wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I'm trying to connect to a Sun Ultra 5 from my OpenBSD
 laptop (a thinkpad) but I'm currently stuck. I have next to
 no experience with serial communications, so I'm groping
 around in the dark currently.
 
 I have a serial cable with a null modem adapter connected
 to the DB9 serial port on my laptop and the DB25 A serial
 port on the Sun.
 
 I'm using minicom, at 9600 baud and using the /dev/tty00
 device.
Instead of using minicom, can you try:

# cu -l /dev/cua00

This works fine (here) from and to a Blade 100/SS4/SGI 02.

 
 When I switch on the Sun, I'm told that I should get some
 console output and then the usual ok prompt. I actually
 get a lot of control characters and binary gibberish.
 
 Where exactly do I start with troubleshooting? The cable
 doesn't seem to be at fault, so I'm assuming that the
 problem is software related.
 
 cheers,
 MC

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: make install is not the same as pkg_add' ?

2006-05-16 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:16:45PM +0200, Andreas Maus wrote:
 Hello everbody.
 
 I'm using OpenBSD since version 3.1 (or so) usually for servers and my
 firewalls.
 Getting my IBM X40 and I installed OpenBSD 3.9 and started to build
 the packages I need
 from /usr/ports. Everything works as expected (means without any problem ;)
 
 But after installing xmms from /usr/ports/audio/xmms/ I discovered that 
 xmms was
 not able to play MP3 and OGG files. After some hours of searching and
 looking around
 I found a package named xmms-mp3-*(and xmms-vorbis) in
 /usr/ports/packages/i386/all/.
 
 So I run pkg_add /usr/ports/packages/i386/all/xmms-mp3-1.2.10p6.tgz.
 
 After this pkg_add xmms was able to play MP3 files.
 
 All the years I believed that make install will do the same as a pkg_add.
 Now I am real confused ;)
 
 Am I missing something? Is this a bug or does it work as expected?
This is expected behaviour. Since the xmms-mp3 and xmms-ogg are subpackages.
Please refer to bsd.port.mk(5) and ports(7) for more information.

 
 Many thanks in advance.
 
 Andreas.
Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: Best firewall for OpenBSD ?

2006-04-30 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:21:22AM -0700, S t i n g r a y wrote:
 Where can i find detail infomation about pf ?
 doumentation?
You are kidding right?

 
 regards
 
 
 --- Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:44:18AM -0700, S t i n g
  r a y wrote:
   I want to use OpenBSD as the network firewall of
  my
   network.
   Now which firewall should i use ? i heard people
  say
   pf is outdated use IP Filter instead.
   what you recommend ?
  
  If you use OpenBSD, use pf(4) - it's what OpenBSD
  uses, after all.
  
  If you are talking about IPFilter, it was ripped
  from the tree a long
  time ago after the license was found not to be
  compatible; pf is
  regarded as being a superior alternative.
  
  Joachim
  
  
 
 
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Re: PPPoA and OpenBSD

2006-04-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:55:49 +0100
Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006/04/09 17:43, Dave Harrison wrote:
  I'm searching high and low for some documentation on setting up a PPPoA
link
  (yes, it's for the UK and it's definitely PPPoA _not_ PPPoE) under
OpenBSD

 in-tree: ueagle(4)
 otherwise: iirc there are some USB Speedtouch drivers
I have a USB Speedtouch modem attached to my router:
ugen0 at uhub0 port 2
ugen0: ALCATEL Speed Touch USB, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2

I have been using PPPoA + OpenBSD for some time now, without problems.

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: 3.9 cds are arriving in Europe

2006-04-04 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Op 4/4/2006 schreef Nico Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi all,

Well, thanks again to Wim: the 3.9 cds are arriving. :-)

Nicely wrapped in a top notch t-shirt (if you ordered one, of course)
comes beautiful artwork, with some cds to match, swiftly delivered via the
friendly UPS guy.

And blob-free, no less! :-)

This package is once again well worth the money, so order up if you
haven't done so already.

A happy camper... Nico

Ah, I can't wait to get home ;-)

Cheers,
Jasper



Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:56:26 -0700
J.C.Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:07:43 +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   [ music |Aqua Barbie Girl ]
  
   April Fools is one thing but someone around here has a really twisted
   sense of humor.
  
  Yes, this is obviously a fake, since there is an humppa cover of this
  tune.
  
 
  torrent?
 it's #15 on Werbung baby!
 
 cheers,
 Jasper


 Jasper,

 Damn, now you've got me curious...

 All joking aside, if someone wanted to check out humppa for the first
 time, would this be a good album to buy?
They have some songs available for download on their webpage. But I have to
say that their latest album, Humppasirkus is very nice too.


 thanks,
 jcr
Cheers,
Jasper



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Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:53:14 -0800
J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:19:21 +, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [ music|Aqua Barbie Girl ]
 
  April Fools is one thing but someone around here has a really twisted
  sense of humor.
 
 Yes, this is obviously a fake, since there is an humppa cover of this
 tune.
 

 torrent?
it's #15 on Werbung baby!


 jcr
cheers,
Jasper



 --
 Free, Open Source CAD, CAM and EDA Tools
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Re: C Compiler Prob

2006-03-30 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Op 30/3/2006 schreef oliver simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi List,

maybe can tell me what4s wrong or missing ?

Trying to compile an apache 2.0.52 ...

configure says ...

Platform: sparc64-unknown-openbsd3.8
checking for working mkdir -p... yes
APR Version: 0.9.7
checking for chosen layout... apr
checking for gcc... egcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C
this should say ``a.out''. You must have been messing around.

compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
config.log should give  you some more hints.

configure failed for srclib/apr

Thanks, ...olli
Cheers,
Jasper



Re: Is list quiet?

2006-03-27 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:01:59 -0800
Brian Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I recently switched to a new mail server (about 3 weeks ago) and at first
 I was receiving email from the list but it seems to be about 2 weeks since
 the last one.

 Is the list real quiet or do I have a local mail issue?
I guess it's you, since there have been quite some mail-generating posts
in the last days.


 Thanks,
 Brian.
Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Mac SE/30

2006-03-26 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:34:21 +1000
David Diggles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [...]
 Web site says it is untested/unsupported.  Anyone had any luck on
 one yet on one?

You can test it!

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Re: SGI O2

2006-03-22 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:37:45 +0100
Bachman Kharazmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you're right, I missed that line in INSTALL.sgi.

 and the worst is that none of my laptops have RS232 ports even if I've
 a serialcable.

 I hope there're USB-RS232 converters available.
That should do the trick, but you must have a null modem cable otherwise
you still won't be able to see much ;-)


 the world is not always fair.
 /bkw
 On 22/03/06, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What I can see on the screen is all the boot arguments at top (from
   the environment).
  
   OpenBSD/sgi Arcbios boot
   Boot: pci(0)scsi(0)cdrom(4)partition(0)/bsd.rd
   Loading ELF64 file
   0xfff... Loading symbol table
   Start at 0x
   ARCS32 Firmware Version 1.10
   SR=34010080
   Found SGI-IP32, setting up.
   And here it freeze, nothing else happens.
 
  I'll bet you did not connect a serial console to the machine.
 
  Miod
 


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Re: error mounting cd0c on -current

2006-02-28 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:27:21 -0800
Bryan Brake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Using the snapshot from 27 Feb, I was able to
 initially use the DVD+-RW to install the snapshot.
   Everything has been fine, but today, I thought I
 would attempt to play an Audio CD in the drive.  I
 downloaded xmms (which looks like the old winamp),
 put the cd in and issued the following command:

 #mkdir /cdrom
 #mount -t cd9660 -r /dev/cd0c /cdrom

Why are you trying to mount an audio cd?

[...]

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: SMP

2006-02-21 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:06:08 -0300
Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering what is the state of art in SMP technologies ?
 I would like to know how close is OpenBSD to it?
http://openbsd.org/smp.html


 Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: openbsd's future plans?

2006-02-08 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:35:30 -0700
Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday, February 8, chefren wrote:
  On 02/08/06 14:56, Nickolay A Burkov wrote:
 
   Weee! I think OpenBSD kernel should be implemented in hardware part!
 
  Of course, big gate array and stellar performance.
 
  So the language should be VHDL!

 Ugh!  That's akin to using C++ and C# at the same time.  Use
 Verilog or something a little more sane... :)
You all must be out of your minds...just forget all the platforms and
everything, and rewrite it all in MIPS R12k assembler. ;-)


 --Toby.



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Re: Preventing breaks on Sparc's

2006-02-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:46:02 -0700
Chris Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bryan Irvine wrote:
 
 
  If I unplug both drives, set bootmode to reset_nvram in LOM and boot
the
  machine I can use break to get to an ok prompt. However if I plug the
  drives back in, the instant the OpenBSD boot loader comes up, I again
  can't get back to an ok prompt. This is while OpenBSD is loaded (or
  loading), or while the machine is coming up, but before the boot
loader
  has started.
 
 
  I hit stop-a before the boot loader comes up. :-)
 


 Right, doesn't work. From the instant I hit the power button, I can send
 breaks till I'm blue in the face. It ignores them.
Are you sure your keys aren't defect :-)

cheers,
Jasper



 Chris



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Re: Help: Java plugin for mozilla firefox

2006-02-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:37:05 +0200
Gabriel George POPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know how to install java plugin on Mozilla Firefox
 (I missed the messages @ install and I cannot reproduce them).
 Can someone tell me how to do this?
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#javaflash




 Yours,

 George POPA



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Re: OpenBSD hardware router

2006-02-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:07:51 -0500
Will H. Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kenny Mann wrote:
  I'm looking for something that which I can slap OpenBSD 3.8 on and use
  it as a router.
  This will be used for a house (~ 4 people) and I'm looking for something
  small in form factor and that which doesn't run hot because it will run
  in a closet.
  I'm seeking to replace our D-Link router because it seems to lock up on
  an occasion and this seem like a fun little project to do.
  I'd also like it to have wireless capabilities as well.
  Anyone know where I can start looking or can point in a direction to
start?
  Or are my hopes too high and I should just get a PC and make it happen
  that route (pun not intended)?
 
  Kenny Mann
 

 If you are trying not to spend a lot of money, you could find an almost
 free laptop (200 - 300 mhz) and use that.  Cost will go up if you don't
 already have some PCMCIA or USB ethernet and wireless cards.
Nah, laptop aren't designed for those uses. As mention before, by quite
some people :-), go for soekris.



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Re: anoncvs prompts for password

2006-01-15 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:40:23 -0800
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 oh, forgot to say that I wish to track -current

 Thanks
 Ramiro

 On 1/15/06, Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello OpenBSD friends.
 
  I have been googling around and I am not able to solve this problem.
  I am going to tell you the exact procedure for you to tell me whether
  I am doing something wrong.
 
  My system was OpenBSD 3.8-stable. I cvs checkout'ed src, ports, XF4 and
www
  from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs, but using my Debian GNU/Linux
  at University, where we have a very high speed Internet connection.
  I tar'ed and gzip'ed the sources in four different *tar.gz files. I saved
  them in an CDROM and went home...
 
  I arrived home, and unpacked them into /usr/, compiled the kernel, the
  userland and XF4 with success.
 
  Two days later, I wanted to cvs up the souce from my OpenBSD box, and
  was stuck at the cvs prompt, when It asks me for a password:
  Script started on Sun Jan 15 11:20:34 2006
  # cd /usr
  # export CVSROOT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
  # cvs up -Pd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
  Permission denied, please try again.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: cvs [update aborted]: received
  interr
 
  # exit
 
  Script done on Sun Jan 15 11:21:28 2006
 
  I have searched in the FAQ with no clues.
 
  Thanks in advance for your help
 
  Ramiro

I had that problem too with that mirror. I changed mirror, and forgot about
it...

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: FreeBSD packages

2006-01-10 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:36:51 +
Gaby vanhegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a FreeBSD package that contains the networker backup
 software.  I've made the software run on OpenBSD by installing the
 FreeBSD compat stuff.  What I want to know is if there's a cleaner
 way to install the package, or if there's a way to convert a package
 to the OpenBSD package format.

 I've made packages before, so I think I can convert it to OpenBSD
 package if needs be.  If there's any hints or tips about converting
 Free to OpenBSD packages, I'd be happy to listen.

 Gaby
Well, it would be easier to just convert the port to an OpenBSD port, and
then build the package on OpenBSD directly.


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 Junkets for bunterish lickspittles since 1998!
 http://vanhegan.net/sudoku/
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Re: Security Mailing List

2006-01-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:05:19 -0600
Kenny Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought the security-announce mailing list would have sent an email
 out about the 3.8 errata, but I was wrong. I found out on undeadly.org.
 Is their such an OpenBSD mailing list that would send an email out when
 posts are added onto the errata?
 If so, it might be nice to place a link somewhere on the errata page
 showing where someone can sign up (or perhaps the FAQ?).

 Or am I just that blind and didn't/can't see it?

 Thanks!
 Kenny Mann

Well, there's a security-announce@ list. This is what mail.html says
about it:

security-announce
Security announcements. This low volume list receives OpenBSD security
advisories and pointers to security patches as they become available.

In fact it's so low volume, that I haven't received a single message on it
since May last year (at least before the Zlib-patches).

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: Determining version of OpenBSD source

2006-01-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:39:38 +0530
Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Could some one please tell me if the source in

 http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source//arch/amd64/amd64/cpu.c?v=OPENBSD#L334

 belongs to 3.8 stable or current or older versions?
If you read the RCS tag, you would've seen the following tag:

/*  $OpenBSD: cpu.c,v 1.7 2004/07/19 15:09:05 art Exp $ */

Note the date, not quite recent.

See http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/cpu.c
for more info.



 Thankyou so much

 Kind Regards

 Siju

Cheers,
Jasper



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Re: OpenBSD VMWare image too popular

2006-01-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 13:41:50 -0500
Will H. Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just crossed the 10,000 downloads of the OpenBSD VMWare image since
 I posted it a few weeks ago.
 Unfortunately, it is a little too popular for the people providing my
 bandwidth.  Is anyone else willing to host the file?  I'll just point my
 page to you.  You would be looking at about a terabyte a month of
 transfer if it keeps going at this rate.
Enjoy: http://wbackman.humppa.nl/

Cheers,
Jasper


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 Will Backman - Network Administrator
 Coastal Enterprises, Inc.
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Re: OpenBSD VMWare image too popular

2006-01-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:06:40 -0700
Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Graham Toal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-01-05 12:14]:
  If it's that popular it's worth setting up a torrent!
 
  G

   Eeek.

   I walked into this thread initially thinking this was a picture or
 logo or something... now shuddering violently at the thought of
 running an OS image downloaded from bittorrent.. I suppose it works
 for windows virusus, but my glasses still go dark, and I'm still
 losing sphincter control..

   -Bob
Hehe. anyway the VMWare image (not image in picture :-) ) seems to be going
ok according to my logs.


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Re: OpenBSD beep

2005-12-17 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:12:58 +0300
dimaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've installed OpenBSD on my small server, before on server was linux,
 and 2-3 times a day my server beeps (3 times)...
 What does it mean? And how I can control this beeps?
Have you checked your logs for anything out of the normal?
Maybe a dmesg might be helpfull?

Jasper

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Re: only 3 small question on OpenBSD, a FedoraCore user.

2005-12-11 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:24:59 -0500
Christopher Hylarides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is Fedora using X.org or Xfree86 still?  I don't know if there are
 any differences beween the config files.
AFAIK is Debian the only major distribution that is still using XFree86.


Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: 3.8 userland build fails on amd64 and sparc64

2005-12-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 06:59:07 -0800
Dag Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After extracting sources from the cd,  checking out current, building
 installing and booting from the new kernel, make build fails.


 The error message indicates that xargs is being called with an
 unsupported argument, -r as I recall.  If I then just build and
 install xargs the make build completes.

 This has happened now on both a sparc64 and an amd64 machine.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20050927


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Re: openbsd web site design proposals (from HOTO write bad docs)

2005-11-28 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:03:08 +0100
frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hmm, on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 05:32:54PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek said that
  It's even a FAQ: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwnotstd

 at least remove
 We welcome new contributors,
 because that is clearly not true.
That's still true; instead of focusing on the layout of the site, you
should focus on adding useful content. Instead of adding _useless_ content
to the mailinglist archives :)


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Re: Strange output on cvsweb

2005-11-28 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:26:46 +0100
Hans Kremers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I might be mistaken, but
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/dev/pci/
 lists only a single file, whereas my local source tree has lot's of them.

 Does look strange

 Best regards,

 Hans

Theo already explained on www@ that The CVS mirrors blew up.  They are
being fixed.

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:58:48 -0800
Bruno S. Delbono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be
 mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready
 to junk it.
I would've junked it the first time though.


 Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS?
I'd go for Plone. I did several websites with it, and I liked it. Though
it would be overkill to use it for a regualar blog or something like that.


 PS - Here is the 0-day expolit (for all versions of mambo not protected)
 including the latest version

[...]


Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: Booting without keyboard

2005-11-16 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:03:10 +0100
Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 IB4m new to OpenBSD. IB4m reading many articels and howtos over the last 
 to weeks.
The FAQ is a _very_ good starting point.

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Booting without keyboard

2005-11-15 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:34:34 +0100
Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello List,
 
 can someone tell me how to set up openbsd running without a keyboard?
 
 Thanks!

1. Configure your BIOS if necessary;
2. Pull the keyboard plug from your computer;
3. Boot OpenBSD.
4. Use a serial console (i.e. for the installation) or SSH to manage your
   computer.

Gosh, how hard can that be? And you couldn't even think of that yourself?

Jasper


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Re: OpenBSD as a router for my ADSL ?

2005-11-13 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:52:32 +0300
Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
   * Try to use this SAGEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 800 E2L. Uhm... OBSD recognized 
 it as
 ugen0 (ueagle seems not to work).
[..]
 
Read man 4 ugen and you would've noticed that your modem will probaly work
with the tun(4) driver, like my USB modem.

 Best regards,
 
 Bruno.
 
Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Instructions for tracking -CURRENT

2005-11-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:53:12 +0200
Alari Kask [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everybody, i put together some instructions for tracking -CURRENT,
 it's just for getting things done faster, than reading the cvs  
 instructions on the homepage of openbsd.
 Any feedback is welcome.
 
Have you written them with invisible ink? ;-)


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Re: ath0: bogus xmit rate 0x0

2005-11-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:17:14 +0100
Alexandre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
[...]
 
 uname -a gives
 OpenBOpenBSD hades.olympe.div 3.8 GENERIC#4 i386
Are you sure your uname -a output is correct?

 
 Thanks.
 

Jasper


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Re: Setting up printer with cups Epson Stylus Photo 820

2005-11-06 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:08:04 -0600
Jeff Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not really. I want to use cups for network printing and it requires esp
 ghostscript for which there is no port.
I'm sort of working on that with a very low priority. I'll have a look at that
again this week.
I'll try to fix an outdated gimp-print port too.

I hope that may help you.

[...] 
 --
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: preventing OS fingerprint

2005-11-03 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:32:13 +0100
Hans van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gustavo Rios wrote:
 
 Dear gentleman,
 
 i have an obsd firewall and would like to prevent external entities
 discovering that firewall is openbsd, is that possible?
 
 Thanks a lot for your time and cooperation.
   
 
 I use the following line in pf to prevent nmap scan, including -O:
 
 block in quick log on $inet_if from any os NMAP
 
 But why would you want to hide the fact you run the most secure OS in 
 the world?
 
 
 Hans
Haha, I sort of want to reveal that fact, but Netcraft keeps thinking I'm
running FreeBSD or Linux :'(

Cheers,
Jasper 


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Re: ibook+openbsd3.8

2005-11-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:47:14 +0100 (CET)
Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Eder M. G. A. wrote:
 
  Good day.
  
  I have installed OpenBSD 3.8 on my ibook G4, all fine, but i can't
  switch to another console, just can use ttyC0, i tried different
  methods but without results.
 
 macppc uses vgafb(4) and does not support multiple consoles.
 
   -Otto
 
Maybe you can use screen(1)?

Cheers,
Jasper

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Re: Large partition

2005-10-24 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:34:31 +0200 (CEST)
Beck Zoltan Gyula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must install a file server so I need minimal 2T disk space. So I need to
 choose an other operating system :(

Well, you can have 2TB of storage. As long as you spread it over several
partitions, right?

Cheers,
Jasper

 
 On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Nick Holland wrote:
 
  Beck Zoltan Gyula wrote:
   Hi!
  
 I would like to ask if it is possible to use a large, more than 2T
   diskarray or CCD?
 In FAQ: 14.7 - What are the issues regarding large
   drives with OpenBSD?
  
   OpenBSD supports an individual file system of up to 231-1, or
   2,147,483,647 sectors, and as each sector is 512 bytes, that's a tiny
   amount less than 1T.
  
 It's true I can't use my 2T partition?
  
 Best Regards
   Bzg
 
  2TB is greater than 1TB, so yes, it can not be one file system.
 
  it COULD (and probably SHOULD) be multiple file systems on one array.
 
  I can think of lots of apps which might need more than 1TB.
  I can't think of many apps which need more than 1TB now that might not
  some day need more than 10TB.
 
  It is probably easier to bolt-on new partitions later than to rebuild on
  a new array later.  Plan for multiple partitions now...
 
  Nick.
 


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Re: Auto start KDE in OBSD 3.7

2005-10-24 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:51:55 +0100
Helio Santana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 I am newbie on OBSD. I've installed a new system (3.7), afterboot and
 adduser... then I changed xdm_flags to  in /etc/rc.conf. When my
 system starts, show me the login screen. All is ok. WHOW, it's very
 easy... :) I feel happy.
 
 Now, I decided to install KDE, and login again in text mode
 (xdm_flags=NO). When my kdebase package is downloaded an installed on my
 system, I do startkde. WONDERFULL! KDE is working on my system. All is
 working OK. Really it's very easy.
 
 My problems started when I try to auto-start KDE on my system.
 I searched in google, but nothing of the solutions I've found works...
 How can I do this?... I think this must be trivial... but I don't know
 what to do.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Helio.
 
If I remember correctly you should use KDM as your login manager, and then
enable auto-login in KDM.

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: coredump

2005-10-24 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:38:40 +0200
Gabucino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.
 
 What could prevent a (threading) program to dump core on OpenBSD/i386 3.5 ?
 ulimit -c is unlimited. I can catch the segfault in gdb, but that's not
 the question.
 
 -- 
 Gabucino
 
First try upgrading to 3.7 or 3.8 and see if the problem occurs there
too.

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:26:44 +0159
Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
 your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
 Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
 tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
 make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
 possible.
 
 Please read on over here:
 
 http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html
 
 
 
 # Han
 
You also received an e-mail from Norbert Bollow, right? :-)

Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Vote against software-patents

2005-10-20 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:05:05 +0100
Jason McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:26:44PM +0159, Han Boetes wrote:
  Hi,
  
  For everyone interested in the matter of software-patents. Here is
  your chance to vote against them, yes, even if you are not from
  Europe. And even if you don't live in Europe this is a very impor-
  tant frontier, a good chance to stop them in their tracks and to
  make sure software stay free and Open Source Software stays
  possible.
  
  Please read on over here:
  
  http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html
  
 
 jesus. no disrespect intended, but some of these choices were made by a
 random generator. the award of best european of the year is probably going
 to go to 0xff.
I didn't follow the list provided since I can make up my own mind. But that
e- mail did guide me to the poll.

 
 and since when has voting ever done us any good? i can't believe this is
 going to change anything.
No it's going to change anything, but still...
 
 jmc
 
Cheers,
Jasper


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Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:48:28 -0700
Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:39:15 -0600
 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 :  Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995
 : 
 : Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.
 : 
 : RCS file: /cvs/src/Makefile,v
 : revision 1.1
 : date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;
 : branches:  1.1.1;
 : Initial revision
 : 
 : 
 : That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
 : date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.
 : 
 
 /usr/share/calendar/calendar.openbsd
 
It has been there since it's initial import: 
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.openbsd?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

Jasper


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Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:01:16 +0200
Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:48:28 -0700
 Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:39:15 -0600
  Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  :  Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995
  : 
  : Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.
  : 
  : RCS file: /cvs/src/Makefile,v
  : revision 1.1
  : date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;
  : branches:  1.1.1;
  : Initial revision
  : 
  : 
  : That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
  : date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.
  : 
  
  /usr/share/calendar/calendar.openbsd
  
 It has been there since it's initial import: 
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.openbsd?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain
 
 Jasper

And in the time between sending this e-mail and receiving it via the list,
mickey@ has already fixed it. :-)

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Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: very, very slow usb data transfer speed on 3.7

2005-10-11 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:30:30 -0400
Andrew Atrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marco Peereboom wrote:
  Yes dumb.  Where are the whole dmesg?
 
 haha!
 
  If you had sent them we could have told you if you ran into the hlt hlt bug.
 
 Sure here it is -
 
 
 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf (11:35) --
 # dmesg
 OpenBSD 3.7 (BOOKEND) #0: Wed Oct  5 14:02:08 EST 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/BOOKEND

How about trying it with a GENRIC kernel?

snip 
 
 
 
  
  On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:20:45PM -0400, Andrew Atrens wrote:
  
 Hey guys!
 
 I'm running 3.7 and am getting really, really crappy usb throughput :( -
 
 # dd if=/dev/sd0c of=/dev/null bs=819200 count=100
 100+0 records in
 100+0 records out
 8192 bytes transferred in 175.970 secs (465533 bytes/sec)
 
 
 Here's an excerpt from my dmesg -
 
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11
 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0 at usb0
 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 10
 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
 uhub1 at usb1
 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 9
 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
 uhub2 at usb2
 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 3
 ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
 ehci0: companion controllers, 2 ports each: uhci0 uhci1 uhci2
 usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub3 at usb3
 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub3: single transaction translator
 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
 ...
 umass0 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0
 umass0: vendor 0x0457 USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
 scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets
 sd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: OCZ, ET1208AD, 1.0 SCSI2 0/direct removable
 sd0: 2000MB, 2000 cyl, 64 head, 32 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 4096000 sec total
 
 
 Looks like sd0 is attached to the EHCI controller. On DragonflyBSD, same 
 h/w,
 I get 13MB/s when I use ehci ..
 
 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf (11:09) --
 # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null bs=8192000 count=100
 100+0 records in
 100+0 records out
 81920 bytes transferred in 59.371990 secs (13797752 bytes/sec)
 
 when I use uhci on Dragonfly, I get -
 
 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /home/atrens (11:07) --
 # dd if=/dev/da0 bs=8192000 of=/dev/null count=100
 ^C5+0 records in
 5+0 records out
 4096 bytes transferred in 45.750635 secs (895288 bytes/sec)
 
 which is still double what I'm seeing on OpenBSD 3.7
 
 
 Hope it's something dumb on my side (and therefore easy to fix) :( ...
 
 
 Andrew.
 


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Re: installation stalled at wdo pciide 0:0:0 using pio mode 4, ultra-dma mode4

2005-10-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:12:19 +0200
Roelof Wobben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello,
 
 I try to install Openbsd version 3.3 on a Amd-k6 computer with 256 mb memory.
OpenBSD 3.3? I hope that's a typo and you mean 3.7 or a snapshot of 3.8?

snip 

Jasper


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Re: installation stalled at wdo pciide 0:0:0 using pio mode 4,ultra-dma mode4

2005-10-09 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:43:30 +0200
Roelof Wobben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No,
 
 Its not a typo.
 I have a old cd with version 3.3.
Well, then I _strongly_ advise you to order your copies of 3.8 today.

Jasper

 
 Roelof
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Roelof Wobben [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: installation stalled at wdo pciide 0:0:0 using pio mode 
 4,ultra-dma mode4
 
 
  On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:12:19 +0200
  Roelof Wobben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello,
 
  I try to install Openbsd version 3.3 on a Amd-k6 computer with 256 mb 
  memory.
  OpenBSD 3.3? I hope that's a typo and you mean 3.7 or a snapshot of 3.8?
 
  snip
 
  Jasper
 
 
  -- 
  Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt
 
  
 
 


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Re: Webmail recommendations?

2005-10-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:19:17 -0500 (CDT)
C. Bensend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am at a loss for a good web interface.
 
  Anyone care to make any recommendations?
 
 I'm a pretty big fan of SquirrelMail.  It's a web-based IMAP client,
 so you'd need an IMAP server as well (I use Courier).  It works just
 fine with OpenBSD's chrooted Apache, which is a big plus.
 
 Benny
 
 
 -- 
 Now, that next spring you find in your garage a creature that
 looks like a cross-bred badger and anaconda. A badgerconda.
   -- bash.org
 

Yes, that's very nice WebMail software indeed. And it's quite light.

Jasper


-- 
Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: How to apply patches on a small PC

2005-09-30 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Do you have a faster pc running OpenBSD? In that case you can also do a make
release and upgrade that old pc. 

Cheers,
Jasper

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:55:49 -0700
Ami Emanuel Bizamcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why are you using openbsd version 3.6 and not 3.7 ?
 
 -- amix
 
 On 9/30/05, Frederic Durodie @ JET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to use a small older pc (75MHz first generation Pentium 64MB ram
  3 GB of disk) as a webserver/fileserver using OBSD 3.6. I'm OK to install
  the patches but some of them require to rebuild the kernel which I suspect
  could take forever on this pc (haven't tried it though) and eats up a lot of
  the disk space available.
 
  Is there another way to apply those patches : e.g. can one copy the kernel
  from another pc running 3.6 where the patch has been applied. In general can
  I copy the patched executables (possibly using rsync) ?
 
  Thanks.
  Frederic
 


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Re: pkg_create error

2005-09-22 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:41:04 +
Edy Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'm not sure that i can do that smoothly.
 the server is our firewall and it's running :
 
 - mrtg
 - squid
 - openntp
 
 anyone has a reference site about upgrading 3.4 - current ?
 i don't confidence after i messed up with FBSD 4.11
Well, you should update your system at least once a year. Then the possible
pain will be the least. So just do what Marc Espie says, and bite the bullet.

Good luck.

Jasper

 
 tia
 
 
 From: Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Edy Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: pkg_create error
 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:23:02 +0200
 
 On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 02:08:39AM +, Edy Purnomo wrote:
   argh!
  
   yes, it's true, i did update the ports by typing cvsup -g -L 2 
 cvs-supfile
   with conf:
  
  # Defaults that apply to all the collections
  *default host=cvsup.uk.openbsd.org
  *default base=/var
  *default prefix=/usr
  *default release=cvs
  *default delete use-rel-suffix compress
  
  # Ports Collection.
  OpenBSD-ports tag=.
  
   is there anyway to get the old ports back to its place ? e.g. extract
   ports.tar.gz from the CD-ROM ?
  
   tia.
 
 Why don't you simply just bite the bullet and go to current, or 3.7, or 3.8 
 ?
 
 3.4 is fairly old by now...
 


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Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Developer Tools

2005-09-18 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:39:34 +0200
Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 
 Multiple .*terms with this font:
 http://fractal.csie.org/~eric/wiki/index.php/Terminus_font
 Simply the best for programming.
That's a very nice font indeed, very easy on the eyes.

FYI: it's also in the ports tree.

Jasper


 
 Tobias
 


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Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Slow Sparc Ultra 5

2005-09-18 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Maybe you can try compiling a 3.8 kernel and see how that works.

Jasper

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:49:04 +1000
badmagic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, that's not it. I just clipped the wrong part of my dmesg.
 It's running under GENERIC kernel. 
 
 
 
 Bryan Irvine wrote:
 
 Maybe because you are using the RAMDISK kernel?  Try switching to
 GENERIC, and see if that works better.
 
 --Bryan
 
 On 9/15/05, BadMagic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Hello,
 
 I installed OpenBSD 3.7 (Sparc64) on my Ultra 5 and it's performance is not 
 what I'd expected. I'd recently had Solaris on there (using CDE) and it ran 
 quite quickly but with OpenBSD, when I do an 'ls -la', it takes forever for 
 the screen to scroll through the list and try it via ssh! Slow. I'm using 
 it as a Web server and it's noticably slower at serving pages than the old 
 x86 I had doing the job before was.
 
 Anyone know something about this?
 
 Regards,
 sl
 
 Here's it's dmesg (This took forEVER):
 /*8-
 
 console is keyboard/display
 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
 The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
 Copyright (c) 1995-2005 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  
 http://www.OpenBSD.org
 
 OpenBSD 3.7 (RAMDISK) #344: Sun Mar 20 14:38:37 MST 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/RAMDISK
 total memory = 134217728
 avail memory = 112893952
 using 819 buffers containing 6709248 bytes of memory
 bootpath: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f
 mainbus0 (root): Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 270MHz)
 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi @ 270 MHz, version 0 FPU
 cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l), 256K external 
 (64 b/l)
 psycho0 at mainbus0 addr 0xfffc4000
 SUNW,sabre: impl 0, version 0: ign 7c0 bus range 0 to 2; PCI bus 0
 DVMA map: c000 to e000
 IOTDB: 10bb4000 to 10c34000
 pci0 at psycho0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 vendor 0x108e product 0x5000 rev 0x11
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ebus0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 vendor 0x108e product 0x1000 rev 0x01
 auxio0 at ebus0 addr 726000-726003, 728000-728003, 72a000-72a003, 
 72c000-72c003, 72f000-72f003
 power at ebus0 addr 724000-724003 ipl 37 not configured
 SUNW,pll at ebus0 addr 504000-504002 not configured
 sab0 at ebus0 addr 40-40007f ipl 43: rev 3.2
 sabtty0 at sab0 port 0
 sabtty1 at sab0 port 1
 comkbd0 at ebus0 addr 3083f8-3083ff ipl 41: layout 34
 wskbd0 at comkbd0: console keyboard
 com0 at ebus0 addr 3062f8-3062ff ipl 42, mouse: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
 ecpp at ebus0 addr 3043bc-3043cb, 30015c-30015d, 70-7f ipl 34 not 
 configured
 fdthree at ebus0 addr 3023f0-3023f7, 706000-70600f, 72-720003 ipl 39 
 not configured
 clock1 at ebus0 addr 0-1fff: mk48t59: hostid 809f8b30
 flashprom at ebus0 addr 0-f not configured
 SUNW,CS4231 at ebus0 addr 20-2000ff, 702000-70200f, 704000-70400f, 
 722000-722003 ipl 35 ipl 36 not configured
 hme0 at pci1 dev 1 function 1 vendor 0x108e product 0x1001 rev 0x01: 
 address 08:00:20:9f:8b:30
 nsphy0 at hme0 phy 1: DP83840 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
 hme0: using ivec 3021 for interrupt
 vgafb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 vendor 0x1002 product 0x4754 rev 0x9a
 wsdisplay0 at vgafb0: console (std, sun emulation), using wskbd0
 pciide0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 vendor 0x1095 product 0x0646 rev 0x03: 
 DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
 pciide0: using ivec 1820 for native-PCI interrupt
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MPD3043AT
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 4125MB, 8448300 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: GoldStar, CD-ROM CRD-8240B, 1.24 SCSI0 
 5/cdrom removable
 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor 0x108e product 0x5000 rev 0x11
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 pcons at mainbus0 not configured
 No counter-timer -- using %tick at 270MHz as system clock.
 rd0: fixed, 6144 blocks
 root on rd0a
 rootdev=0x500 rrootdev=0x3d00 rawdev=0x3d02
 
 8--*/
 


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Re: Theo gave an interview to Forbes Mag. about Linux

2005-06-17 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Right, since there is still a big difference between reading the source
code and actually using the system.

Jasper



 On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:42:36AM -0600, Abraham Al-Saleh wrote:
 I'm actually curious as to the apparent change of stance between
 interviews.  In the last two interviews I've read, you've made it
 clear that you've never used it, and had no comment. Am I missing
 something? Just curious.

 You can read about all the security holes and bugs on various websites
 without ever having used the system.  Knowing of bugs and holes is not
 enough to comment on comparative functionality: you'd really need to use
 both OSes; however, it is sufficient for recognizing 'garbage'.

 --
 stephen




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/usr/ports/x11/wmx configure script.



Re: Eric Raymond talks about GPL and BSD licenses on MyFreeBSD.com

2005-06-16 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Sorry, I forgot the linkhere it is:
http://www.myfreebsd.com.br/static/raymond-20050604.html

Interesting to read though.

 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse wrote:

 Eric Raymond gave an interview on MyFreeBSD.com about the GPL and the
 BSD
 licenses. Though on MyFreeBSD.com, it ain't a FreeBSD specific article.

 so should i click on the identity theft protection link or the adware
 remover link to read this article?  if i click on web filtering will i
 never have to read about raymond again?


 --
 And that's why there's this slowdown of the thermohaline circulation.



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Blackbox 0.70?

2005-06-05 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Hello,

I just wrote a nice theme for Blackbox, with [1] as the wallpaper and
colors of this image have a central place in theme, on my Debian box. But
I tried loading it on OpenBSD 3.7 laptop, I found out it didn't worked.
This was due to the fact that, it had been written for Blackbox 0.70,
while Blackbox 0.65 is in the ports. Now, converting the configfile would
be a pain in the butt, and Blackbox 0.70 isn't in the ports yet. So I was
wondering if anyone has succesfully patched and built version 0.70 of
Blackbox.

-Jasper

[1] https://https.openbsd.org/images/tshirt-23.gif


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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-18 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Great torrents you made, like all the songs together and the snapshots.

Jasper
 OpenBSD Users:

 We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.

 The site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net.

 The torrents are generated automatically on a server that is rsynced to
 ftp3.usa.openbsd.org every 4 hours.  We are also seeding current torrents
 from that server.

 l8rZ,
 --
 andrew - ICQ# 253198 - JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Proud member: http://www.mad-techies.org

 BOFH excuse of the day: monitor resolution too high




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