Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
* Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas j...@wxcvbn.org [2013-09-15 04:22:08 +0200]: Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yeah, I should have taken a screen capture. I don't use the mail program too often (its been years since I've had to), so it was not a priority. Screen capture? In order to convey what was presumably a one line error message? If cut-n-paste won't work, might I suggest just (carefully) typing it? Yes, I'm lazy like that. Plus it removes any ambiguity. Side note: it's lost on me why you're unable to run the compiler because of tangles with adduser/sudo/whatever. Oh, that's my own doing. I need to install wget and subversion to fetch the sources. Plus, I want to see how a Clang 3.3 build goes. (Compilers and software engineering are my business, not system administration). $ su - Password: # pkg_add subversion llvm That's it. You're not into system adminstration yet you want to do unneeded configuration when you have a precise goal. What do you expect? Re wget, there is ftp(1). That's already a lot of mails and a lot of attention for what is a rather simple problem. Just have a break. All I did when I did my new install this week was : $su # enter password $usermod -G wheel,operator username # obviously my username $visudo use 'j' to scrol down to the line that says users in wheel group can use sudo and uncomment it. Then press 'esc' ( to go into command mode for vi) and press ':' then 'wq' and press return. Simple.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On 09/15/13 01:01, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexander Hall alexan...@beard.se wrote: On 09/15/13 00:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. What did you expect from that command? And why? I'd expect the user jwalton to be added to the sudo group. Its seems like a reasonable expectation to me. I don't know the base for your expectations, but I'm afraid they are invalid. man adduser Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? I'd say you use it to add users, but since your user name already existed you could not. It makes sense to me. When I cat /etc/sudoers, its not there. adduser(8) adds system users, which are defined in /etc/master.passwd (and /etc/password). For these users, specific configuration may or may not exist in /etc/sudoers. /etc/sudoers does not define local user accounts. The question is what you really wanted to do. I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. There is no spoon. Or group named sudo for that matter, unless you created it yourself, which I suspect you didn't. I'm not a BSD admin - I'm just a dumb user. So I'm probably doing something wrong. I just haven't figured out what it is. As pointed out, you expect OpenBSD to behave and be configured in the same way as some other system you recently used. That is not necessarily true. man and apropos are your friends. Probably the FAQ, too. Happy hunting! /Alexander
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On 2013-09-15, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Shawn. Sorry to go offlist. So, I'm trying to do some initial testing. I'm on a MacBook with OpenBSD in a VM. All I want to do is run my compiler over some source files. MacBooks have a funky keyboard, and when I try to use visudo to move the cursor around, some of the arrow keys don't work. Not to mention the DELETE key (or the key combinations I know to use to simulate delete). visudo responds with ^? is not valid. I'm sure I'll have that file corrupted shortly. In this case, I would suggest ssh'ing to the OpenBSD vm from a terminal in the host OS, rather than using the VM console, there should be less trouble with keymaps.
How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD?
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On 09/15/13 00:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. What did you expect from that command? And why? Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? I'd say you use it to add users, but since your user name already existed you could not. It makes sense to me. The question is what you really wanted to do. /Alexander
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexander Hall alexan...@beard.se wrote: On 09/15/13 00:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. What did you expect from that command? And why? I'd expect the user jwalton to be added to the sudo group. Its seems like a reasonable expectation to me. Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? I'd say you use it to add users, but since your user name already existed you could not. It makes sense to me. When I cat /etc/sudoers, its not there. The question is what you really wanted to do. I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. I'm not a BSD admin - I'm just a dumb user. So I'm probably doing something wrong. I just haven't figured out what it is. Jeff
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo man visudo man adduser man group Best Martin
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo man visudo man adduser man group Thanks Martin.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:41:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? rtfm? Thanks Kenneth.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 01:08:05AM +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo man visudo man adduser man group Are any of those directly useful for adding a group to a user's supplementary groups? I'd suggest usermod(1).
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo It appears to lack information on adding a user (I went through this man page before asking the question). Then, I went to the web and landed on an overflow page (I think its the 'meta' site, and not the 'stack' site). That's what took me to 'adduser'. man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I can't edit /etc/sudo by hand. I tried to add emacs through pkg_add, but it appears broke. Surely emacs has been ported to every *nix system in existence, so its baffling (to me) the package manager cannot find it. man adduser I tried `adduser jwalton sudo`, and it did not work even though the command looks well formed. I got the command from the overflow site. man group Does not appear applicable. I want to add a user to a group, and not create or delete groups. And 'usermod -G sudo jwalton' does not work, either. It errors with Can't append group sudo for user jwalton. This stuff really should not be this hard... Jeff
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I Then learn it. This is unix. You really should use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, not an editor. Best Martin PS: su - should also work.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013, at 06:47 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I Then learn it. This is unix. You really should use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, not an editor. Note that you can configure visudo, vipw, and vigr to use an editor besides vi. It's possible to get by on Unix without knowing vi, I did so on GNU/Linux systems for most of 4 years, but I finally broke down and figured it out and promptly realized it wasn't as hard as it had been made out to be. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 07:42:46PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I can't edit /etc/sudo by hand. I tried to add emacs through pkg_add, but it appears broke. Surely emacs has been ported to every *nix system in existence, so its baffling (to me) the package manager cannot find it. You can do it without emacs or vi: echo jwalton ALL=(ALL) /etc/sudoers This stuff really should not be this hard... Jeff -- anton
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:41:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? rtfm? adduser(8) should explain things. Looking at the synopsis it's not clear what you typed would do. Certainly I can't see such a command line in the examples section. If you're just working with sudoers, perhaps you want visudo(8) and not adduser(8). Ken
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
Thanks Shawn. Sorry to go offlist. So, I'm trying to do some initial testing. I'm on a MacBook with OpenBSD in a VM. All I want to do is run my compiler over some source files. MacBooks have a funky keyboard, and when I try to use visudo to move the cursor around, some of the arrow keys don't work. Not to mention the DELETE key (or the key combinations I know to use to simulate delete). visudo responds with ^? is not valid. I'm sure I'll have that file corrupted shortly. I really don't get why this shit is so f**k'ing difficult. How is running around with a root terminal open more secure than exec'ing one command under sudo??? Thanks for the advice. Jeff On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013, at 06:47 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I Then learn it. This is unix. You really should use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, not an editor. Note that you can configure visudo, vipw, and vigr to use an editor besides vi. It's possible to get by on Unix without knowing vi, I did so on GNU/Linux systems for most of 4 years, but I finally broke down and figured it out and promptly realized it wasn't as hard as it had been made out to be. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo It appears to lack information on adding a user (I went through this man page before asking the question). Then, I went to the web and landed on an overflow page (I think its the 'meta' site, and not the 'stack' site). That's what took me to 'adduser'. man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I can't edit /etc/sudo by hand. To make things clear: you should always use visudo(8). It does validation on the modified sudoers(5) file. And just like a lot of programs, visudo(8) respects the VISUAL and EDITOR environment variables. So you're not forced to use vi(1), the base system also ships with ed(1) and mg(1). I tried to add emacs through pkg_add, but it appears broke. Surely emacs has been ported to every *nix system in existence, so its baffling (to me) the package manager cannot find it. I am the emacs package maintainer. If you encounter problems not documented by the README, please send a mail to po...@openbsd.org, with a full description. man adduser I tried `adduser jwalton sudo`, and it did not work even though the command looks well formed. I got the command from the overflow site. man group Does not appear applicable. I want to add a user to a group, and not create or delete groups. adduser is not a standardized command, you can't expect it to behave the same way as it does on some other OSes. Just stating a fact. And 'usermod -G sudo jwalton' does not work, either. It errors with Can't append group sudo for user jwalton. $ getent group sudo $ # no output There is no group named `sudo' in the default install, though you can add one. On the other hand, just use visudo(8) and read the bits about the wheel group. This stuff really should not be this hard... You're on a different OS now, some things stay the same, some change. On the plus side the documentation is quite extensive. Manpages, the FAQ and other pieces of information are a big concern here, so make use of them. Have fun. -- jca | PGP: 0x06A11494 / 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes: Thanks Shawn. Sorry to go offlist. So, I'm trying to do some initial testing. I'm on a MacBook with OpenBSD in a VM. All I want to do is run my compiler over some source files. Parallels? MacBooks have a funky keyboard, and when I try to use visudo to move the cursor around, some of the arrow keys don't work. Not to mention the DELETE key (or the key combinations I know to use to simulate delete). visudo responds with ^? is not valid. I'm sure I'll have that file corrupted shortly. The vi(1) editor in base doesn't behave the same way as vim wrt. some keys. export EDITOR=mg and profit. I really don't get why this shit is so f**k'ing difficult. How is running around with a root terminal open more secure than exec'ing one command under sudo??? No one said it was more secure. As I already said in another mail, you can't meet a new OS and expect everything to work as you think they should. Thanks for the advice. Jeff On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013, at 06:47 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I Then learn it. This is unix. You really should use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, not an editor. Note that you can configure visudo, vipw, and vigr to use an editor besides vi. It's possible to get by on Unix without knowing vi, I did so on GNU/Linux systems for most of 4 years, but I finally broke down and figured it out and promptly realized it wasn't as hard as it had been made out to be. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com -- jca | PGP: 0x06A11494 / 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 02:28:15AM +0200, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote: Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2013/9/15 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com: I wanted to add myself to the sudo group. man sudo It appears to lack information on adding a user (I went through this man page before asking the question). Then, I went to the web and landed on an overflow page (I think its the 'meta' site, and not the 'stack' site). That's what took me to 'adduser'. man visudo I don't know vi. I do known emacs, but its not on this system so I can't edit /etc/sudo by hand. To make things clear: you should always use visudo(8). It does validation on the modified sudoers(5) file. And just like a lot of programs, visudo(8) respects the VISUAL and EDITOR environment variables. So you're not forced to use vi(1), the base system also ships with ed(1) and mg(1). Just to clarify. mg is an emacs-like editor. Every OpenBSD installation include it by default. You can run visudo with mg with this command: EDITOR=mg visudo. I tried to add emacs through pkg_add, but it appears broke. Surely emacs has been ported to every *nix system in existence, so its baffling (to me) the package manager cannot find it. I am the emacs package maintainer. If you encounter problems not documented by the README, please send a mail to po...@openbsd.org, with a full description. man adduser I tried `adduser jwalton sudo`, and it did not work even though the command looks well formed. I got the command from the overflow site. man group Does not appear applicable. I want to add a user to a group, and not create or delete groups. adduser is not a standardized command, you can't expect it to behave the same way as it does on some other OSes. Just stating a fact. And 'usermod -G sudo jwalton' does not work, either. It errors with Can't append group sudo for user jwalton. $ getent group sudo $ # no output There is no group named `sudo' in the default install, though you can add one. On the other hand, just use visudo(8) and read the bits about the wheel group. This stuff really should not be this hard... You're on a different OS now, some things stay the same, some change. On the plus side the documentation is quite extensive. Manpages, the FAQ and other pieces of information are a big concern here, so make use of them. Have fun. -- jca | PGP: 0x06A11494 / 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494 -- Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On 09/14/13 18:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm trying to add myself to sudoers. I used `su -` to get root, and then `adduser jwalton sudo`. Now I'm stuck a loop of: Enter username[]: When I try and add my name, I'm told its there. When I try to RETURN (no name), I looped back to the prompt. I have to break out with a ^C. After the ^C break and exit from root, I'm told I'm not in sudoers again. How does one use adduser in OpenBSD? Just in case you didn't notice, when you first install you should have mail. $mail It will describe reading afterboot and many other things, even an example of adding the emacs package.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Brian McCafferty br...@mccafferty.ca wrote: On 09/14/13 18:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Just in case you didn't notice, when you first install you should have mail. $mail It will describe reading afterboot and many other things, even an example of adding the emacs package. Haha! that's too funny. I saw the prompt and immediately tried to run mail. It did not work (I don't recall what the message was, but I remember thinking, wtf???). Jeff
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:28:07PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Brian McCafferty br...@mccafferty.ca wrote: On 09/14/13 18:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Just in case you didn't notice, when you first install you should have mail. $mail It will describe reading afterboot and many other things, even an example of adding the emacs package. Haha! that's too funny. I saw the prompt and immediately tried to run mail. It did not work (I don't recall what the message was, but I remember thinking, wtf???). Too bad you don't remember what the message was. It works for us. You must have done something really stupid and obvious, and if we knew the message, we could possibly help you...
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 20:14, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I really don't get why this shit is so f**k'ing difficult. How is running around with a root terminal open more secure than exec'ing one command under sudo??? I think you're going to be in for a long day. It's not really very hard to drive a screw into wood, but it can be if you're using a hammer. Dont be fooled just because a screw resembles a nail.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 20:14, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I really don't get why this shit is so f**k'ing difficult. How is running around with a root terminal open more secure than exec'ing one command under sudo??? I think you're going to be in for a long day. It's not really very hard to drive a screw into wood, but it can be if you're using a hammer. Dont be fooled just because a screw resembles a nail. Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind. I'm 4 or 6 hours into this, and I still have not been able to run my compiler!
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:28:07PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Brian McCafferty br...@mccafferty.ca wrote: On 09/14/13 18:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Just in case you didn't notice, when you first install you should have mail. $mail It will describe reading afterboot and many other things, even an example of adding the emacs package. Haha! that's too funny. I saw the prompt and immediately tried to run mail. It did not work (I don't recall what the message was, but I remember thinking, wtf???). Too bad you don't remember what the message was. It works for us. You must have done something really stupid and obvious, I would not rule that out. After system install, I saw that system message and immediately ran `mail` based on its suggestion. I don't recall an error message - it was more like it exited immediately or had no effect. and if we knew the message, we could possibly help you... Yeah, I should have taken a screen capture. I don't use the mail program too often (its been years since I've had to), so it was not a priority.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 07:42:46PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: snip And 'usermod -G sudo jwalton' does not work, either. It errors with Can't append group sudo for user jwalton. This stuff really should not be this hard... I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you really want to add yourself to the wheel group, not sudo. This isn't Linux, and there is no sudo group by default. For some reason Linux distros discarded the traditional wheel group years ago. On OpenBSD wheel is used like the sudo group, among other things. You may also want to read the sudoers file. Just reading it will clue you in this. And then go ahead and edit it.
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yeah, I should have taken a screen capture. I don't use the mail program too often (its been years since I've had to), so it was not a priority. Screen capture? In order to convey what was presumably a one line error message? If cut-n-paste won't work, might I suggest just (carefully) typing it? Side note: it's lost on me why you're unable to run the compiler because of tangles with adduser/sudo/whatever. Philip Guenther
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yeah, I should have taken a screen capture. I don't use the mail program too often (its been years since I've had to), so it was not a priority. Screen capture? In order to convey what was presumably a one line error message? If cut-n-paste won't work, might I suggest just (carefully) typing it? Yes, I'm lazy like that. Plus it removes any ambiguity. Side note: it's lost on me why you're unable to run the compiler because of tangles with adduser/sudo/whatever. Oh, that's my own doing. I need to install wget and subversion to fetch the sources. Plus, I want to see how a Clang 3.3 build goes. (Compilers and software engineering are my business, not system administration). Jeff
Re: How does one use adduser in OpenBSD (stuck inEnter username[] loop)?
Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yeah, I should have taken a screen capture. I don't use the mail program too often (its been years since I've had to), so it was not a priority. Screen capture? In order to convey what was presumably a one line error message? If cut-n-paste won't work, might I suggest just (carefully) typing it? Yes, I'm lazy like that. Plus it removes any ambiguity. Side note: it's lost on me why you're unable to run the compiler because of tangles with adduser/sudo/whatever. Oh, that's my own doing. I need to install wget and subversion to fetch the sources. Plus, I want to see how a Clang 3.3 build goes. (Compilers and software engineering are my business, not system administration). $ su - Password: # pkg_add subversion llvm That's it. You're not into system adminstration yet you want to do unneeded configuration when you have a precise goal. What do you expect? Re wget, there is ftp(1). That's already a lot of mails and a lot of attention for what is a rather simple problem. Just have a break. -- jca | PGP: 0x06A11494 / 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494
