Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread ofthecentury
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:22 PM Eric Furman
 wrote:

> You don't happen to have an Xbox type controller plugged
> into your computer by any chance do you?

I do not. Only USB keyboard.
Speaking of USB keyboards. I get this second USB
keyboard interface which I always disable on Linux
with udevadm to no detriment for basic keyboard use.
And just from the security standpoint, nobody wants
any simple peripherals to have any extra interfaces.
But there's no way to disable the aforementioned
USB interface on OpenBSD? Is there a way?



Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread Eric Furman
>> On Fri, March 8, 2024 4:43 pm, ofthecentury wrote:
>> > I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
>> > on its own once in a while when I'm browsing the internet using chromium.
>> > My USB keyboard
>> > is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all of a sudden as I was
>> > typing up this email and wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
>> >  and plugged it back in. Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
>> > Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
>> > I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
>> > on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my Fedora 39 installation before, by
>> > the way. I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.

You don't happen to have an Xbox type controller plugged
into your computer by any chance do you?



Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread Matthias Pfeifer

Hello,

there are posts on the net describing the same phenomenon and it seems 
an issue with chromium.


weird anyway..


Best, Matthias


On 11.03.24 16:58, Daniele B. wrote:

FYI, despite any hacking practice I have seen this keyboard and mice
legitimately happen under two circumstances:
1) using not compatible mice under KVM switch (eg, ATEN switches with >1000dpi 
up mice)
2) switching keyboard layout under X without AutoAddDevice in xorg.conf
Indeed, one legitimate question is..if replication of this eandover can maybe 
easily
produced in any system?

-Dan

Mar 11, 2024 15:35:17 ofthecentury :


On Fri, March 8, 2024 4:43 pm, ofthecentury wrote:

I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
on its own once in a while when I'm browsing the internet using chromium.
My USB keyboard
is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all of a sudden as I was
typing up this email and wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
and plugged it back in. Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my Fedora 39 installation before, by
the way. I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.




Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread Daniele B.
FYI, despite any hacking practice I have seen this keyboard and mice
legitimately happen under two circumstances:
1) using not compatible mice under KVM switch (eg, ATEN switches with >1000dpi 
up mice)
2) switching keyboard layout under X without AutoAddDevice in xorg.conf
Indeed, one legitimate question is..if replication of this eandover can maybe 
easily
produced in any system?

-Dan

Mar 11, 2024 15:35:17 ofthecentury :

>> On Fri, March 8, 2024 4:43 pm, ofthecentury wrote:
>>> I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
>>> on its own once in a while when I'm browsing the internet using chromium.
>>> My USB keyboard
>>> is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all of a sudden as I was
>>> typing up this email and wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
>>> and plugged it back in. Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
>>> Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
>>> I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
>>> on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my Fedora 39 installation before, by
>>> the way. I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.



Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread ofthecentury
Thanks. Here's why it might not be bios/firmware hacked.
This happened when I use chromium, some specific sites
even. It felt like a failed attempt to capture the pointer
remotely and overflow something maybe. Everything
seems to be working ok right now, and I see now sign of
any hacking, so I think it is failed attempts to hack.
Fedora seems to be chugging along after some major
customization, by the way. But some things in Linux are
just not there security-wise.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 6:04 PM  wrote:
>
> this could mean that somehow you got some attacker to insert malicious
> code in your bios/firmware meaning that no matter how many times you
> reinstall you're still hacked
> you should probably sell your motherboard or entire computer and get a new
> one... maybe cpu is affected, too? I don't know where microcode is at
> that's what you get for using fedora instead of openbsd and not reading
> source code
>
> On Fri, March 8, 2024 4:43 pm, ofthecentury wrote:
> > I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
> > on its own once in a while when I'm browsing the internet using chromium.
> > My USB keyboard
> > is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all of a sudden as I was
> > typing up this email and wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
> >  and plugged it back in. Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
> > Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
> > I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
> > on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my Fedora 39 installation before, by
> > the way. I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread Andreas Kähäri
On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:43:58PM +0500, ofthecentury wrote:
> I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
> on its own once in a while when I'm browsing
> the internet using chromium. My USB keyboard
> is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all
> of a sudden as I was typing up this email and
> wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
> and plugged it back in.
> Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
> Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
> I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
> on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my
> Fedora 39 installation before, by the way. I think
> it's a major security flaw somewhere.

Consider vacuuming your keyboard a bit every once in a while, and clean
your mouse.

-- 
Andreas (Kusalananda) Kähäri
Uppsala, Sweden

.



Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-11 Thread beecdaddict
this could mean that somehow you got some attacker to insert malicious
code in your bios/firmware meaning that no matter how many times you
reinstall you're still hacked
you should probably sell your motherboard or entire computer and get a new
one... maybe cpu is affected, too? I don't know where microcode is at
that's what you get for using fedora instead of openbsd and not reading
source code

On Fri, March 8, 2024 4:43 pm, ofthecentury wrote:
> I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
> on its own once in a while when I'm browsing the internet using chromium.
> My USB keyboard
> is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all of a sudden as I was
> typing up this email and wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
>  and plugged it back in. Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
> Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
> I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
> on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my Fedora 39 installation before, by
> the way. I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.
>
>




Re: Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-08 Thread Daniele B.
ofthecentury :

> I think it's a major security flaw somewhere.

Yes, summarizing.."some lords" are profiting from hackers
- who has no more civilizationation - using your pointer,
saying in name for the flag, against the civilizations, biggest enemy
of the empire. I think so.


-Dan



Mouse moving on its own, kbd typing on its own

2024-03-08 Thread ofthecentury
I have a USB mouse that starts to move a little
on its own once in a while when I'm browsing
the internet using chromium. My USB keyboard
is also acting up...it just started typing spaces all
of a sudden as I was typing up this email and
wasn't reactive to any input until I unplugged it
and plugged it back in.
Is it Chromium? Or is it OpenBSD? I think it's
Chromium, but how to get to the bottom of it?
I'm on OpenBSD 7.5 right now, but I've seen it
on OpenBSD 7.4. And I've seen this on my
Fedora 39 installation before, by the way. I think
it's a major security flaw somewhere.