Re: New user help

2007-09-04 Thread Vim Visual
For the kde thing, try something like

---
pkg_add curl

curl ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/ | awk
'{print $NF}' > /tmp/curl.out


for package in `grep -i ^wget /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdebase
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdelibs /tmp/curl.out`\
   `grep -i ^kdeaddons /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdeadmin
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdeartwork /tmp/curl.out` \
   `grep -i ^kdeedu /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdegames
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdegraphics /tmp/curl.out` \
   `grep -i ^kdemultimedia /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i
^kdenetwork /tmp/curl.out` \
   `grep -i ^kdepim /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdesdk
/tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kdetoys /tmp/curl.out` \
   `grep -i ^kdeutils /tmp/curl.out` `grep -i ^kde-i18n-ca
/tmp/curl.out`
do
if ! pkg_add ${package} ; then
echo pkg_add of ${package} failed 1>&2
fi
done
-

I have a big script to automatically install the software I always use
from a recent snapshot (-current, in development), plus PF, plus
antialiasing, plus X set-up etc etc. If you're interested, I can post
it

Cheers

Pau Amaro-Seoane



Re: New user help

2007-09-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/04 09:40, Adrian Fisher wrote:
> I recently began to read about OpenBSD with a view to installing it on
> my home system (I am somewhat new to Unix) and while I was able to
> install the base system without any problems I was unable to find
> clear instructions or pointers on how to go on from there.

Good start; the best way forward is to play around with the system
and learn your way around the documentation. As a new user, you're in
a good position to help identify areas that could benefit from more
detail, adjustments, or even just linking between sections.

Coming from MS and "desktop" Linux it might require a slight
change of mindset to trust the documentation, but it's one you need
to make to get much out of OpenBSD.

> I wish to install the system then install and use the KDE interface

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html should help you get that
installed. As Peter pointed out you need to have the X file sets
too, if you missed them, the easiest way to add them is to boot
the installer and do an upgrade install. (The normal way to
start X is to place xdm_flags="" in /etc/rc.conf.local).

> and use CVSync to update all source and follow the stable branch.  I

You'll find more about cvsync and building the OS from source
on www.openbsd.org, but there's plenty more to learn as it is.
There's really no hurry to get into source builds.

I don't know what you already know, but I'd suggest vi or mg,
basic use of pkg_* tools, grep, locate, man as all being good
to learn early.



Re: New user help

2007-09-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes:

> "Adrian Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I wish to install the system then install and use the KDE interface
>
> You did install the *tgz parts? 

sorry, that came out wrong, it should have been 'x*tgz parts'. 

I do need more coffee.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: New user help

2007-09-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"Adrian Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I wish to install the system then install and use the KDE interface

You did install the *tgz parts? 

If so, you should be ready to fetch and install packages such as the
various kde bits from your favorite mirror as per the FAQ's packages
section, 

> and use CVSync to update all source and follow the stable branch.  I
> am confident that if someone was to send me details of how to
> accomplish this I would be able to learn much more about the system
> and how to use it.

it's not really that hard, for sure. You may want to spend a little
time browsing the faq, for these issues the "building the system from
source" at  may be worth
reading.

Other useful alternatives for fetching source is csup (pkg_add csup) 
and its ancestor cvsup.  See which one appeals to you.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



New user help

2007-09-04 Thread Adrian Fisher
Hello there,

I recently began to read about OpenBSD with a view to installing it on
my home system (I am somewhat new to Unix) and while I was able to
install the base system without any problems I was unable to find
clear instructions or pointers on how to go on from there.

I wish to install the system then install and use the KDE interface
and use CVSync to update all source and follow the stable branch.  I
am confident that if someone was to send me details of how to
accomplish this I would be able to learn much more about the system
and how to use it.

At the moment I use Ubuntu and come from an M$ background so want to
learn as much as possible.  I sometimes make mistakes (as can be seen
in my previous post but I am improving).

Thanks in advance.

A.