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On 4/12/08 10:57 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 04:04:34PM +0300, Lars Nood?n wrote: 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. opponents, competition? Lars, you just don't get it. btw, my main beef with rms is that when the ath5k thing went down, I asked rms in personal email to make a generic statement about respecting copyrights. not comdemn or choose sides, just say something along the lines of despite differences in beliefs of freedom, the most important thing for all of free software is respect for copyright and chosen licensing. and he thought that might be a good idea. then he suddenly decided, because OpenBSD was involved, that he would not make such a statement. he went on to say that he could care less if OpenBSD developers drop dead. I was trying to get rms to be a hero, actually. I thought building flame war was bad for everyone. but he refused, because he is personally prejudice against OpenBSD. plain and simple. The problem is: He has his theory to reach a goal, and it's very hard to admit for him that an other more elegant theory works better for the same goal. Worse, that he considered it proved for at least 3 items that gNewsense violates his own rules and that the whole discussion opened a few more morally very bad things (sources for emacs for windows on his servers which needs proprietary software). don't know about you, but imo, any self proclaimed defender of freedom, with such prejudice, is not at all a defender of freedom, but some one abusing the idea freedom for personal gain. one of the most vile types of people, imo. It's quite ugly: He makes a living by keeping nonsense alive. Picturing him with flies around his head is funny however I believe it is smarter to keep pointing on the fact that his use and explanation of the word free doesn't comply with any dictionary on this planet. +++chefren
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are the pictures real?? If so, this guy is retarded. I was aware of the e-mail he sent to misc, but this is too much! He must really be mentally handicapped enemy of your feedom??!?! man, now I am furious. One thing is that a belching hippy gives a lame talk in a language he doesn't know and arrives 15-20 minutes later making 200 people WAIT because he was sleeping too much probably... another thing is to do what he's doing in those pictures, _if_ they are real He must have indeed some other reason to wear such a banner. What about: DON'T USE THE LINUX KERNEL, IT'S AN ENEMY OF YOUR FREEDOM? He criticised in a very mild way Mr Torvalds during his talk, but he didn't assert such a thing about linux. Funny. Very funny. I start to understand a lot of things. 2008/4/12, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 18:30:25 Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg Is this a copyright violation, Theo? Are you a moron? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Mikel
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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On Saturday 12 April 2008 02:49:08 bofh wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. Thanks...
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if that's fake then it's a very stupid practical joke we have had enough stress, we don't need extra stimulation, that's stupid 2008/4/12, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 12 April 2008 02:49:08 bofh wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. Thanks...
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. -- it's a fake, of course. Replace OpenBSD by DRM. -- - benont
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Funny. Very funny. I start to understand a lot of things. http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/view
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ok... if I believed it, I guess that many people could too... please, if you want to make a joke, use Steve's (Jobs/Ballmer) image... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord than what there's already... and finally Richard, even if we don't agree with many of his opinions and thoughts, is much closer to us than any of those Steves 2008/4/12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Funny. Very funny. I start to understand a lot of things. http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/view
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Pau wrote: ... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord ...than what there's already... Most of what's there is probably not naturally occurring. Just to drive home that point, see p39, pp 45-55, and p 119 of plaintiff exhibit 3096 from Comes v Microsoft (the Iowa case) http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf ...and finally Richard, even if we don't agree with many of his opinions and thoughts, is much closer to us than any of those Steves... Bill would be the one who was at the helm, though when the real damage started and, unlike any other group leader in question, except for maybe the fat Steve, has worked hard to make bad engineering acceptable. Regards -Lars
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I laughed. Ever heard of this nebulous concept called a joke? On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 09:20:23AM +0200, Pau wrote: if that's fake then it's a very stupid practical joke we have had enough stress, we don't need extra stimulation, that's stupid 2008/4/12, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 12 April 2008 02:49:08 bofh wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. Thanks...
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Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg Good one ;-) The originals (if people are still curious): http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg http://www.proformatique.com/presse/stallman.jpg
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yes, probably I am becoming too German... I should loosen up a bit 2008/4/12, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I laughed. Ever heard of this nebulous concept called a joke? On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 09:20:23AM +0200, Pau wrote: if that's fake then it's a very stupid practical joke we have had enough stress, we don't need extra stimulation, that's stupid 2008/4/12, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 12 April 2008 02:49:08 bofh wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Mikel Lindsaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are the pictures real?? Isn't it amazing what you can do with some free time and some photo editing tools? Hmm... If it is indeed a fake, then Andre's question can be interpreted in another way. In that case, I owe him a strong apology. Sorry Andre. Thanks...
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23:23PM +0300, Lars Nood?n wrote: Pau wrote: ... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord ...than what there's already... Most of what's there is probably not naturally occurring. Just to drive home that point, see p39, pp 45-55, and p 119 of plaintiff exhibit 3096 from Comes v Microsoft (the Iowa case) http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf huh? most of the disagreement about what free means is because of MS marketing tactics? if that's what you're trying to say, I think you are sadly mistaken. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok... if I believed it, I guess that many people could too... please, if you want to make a joke, use Steve's (Jobs/Ballmer) image... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord than what there's already... and finally Richard, even if we don't agree with many of his opinions and thoughts, is much closer to us than any of those Steves There's also Steve Wozniak - my hero - and a hacker after the best traditions. He's the guy who gave away schematics to Apple I, when they were trying to sell it, gave away source code to DOS (DOS has always been Disk Operating System for the Apple IIs to me, MSDOS being the crappy one), etc. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23:23PM +0300, Lars Nood?n wrote: Pau wrote: ... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord ...than what there's already... Most of what's there is probably not naturally occurring. Just to drive home that point, see p39, pp 45-55, and p 119 of plaintiff exhibit 3096 from Comes v Microsoft (the Iowa case) http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf huh? Ok. For the intentionally or unintentionally obtuse: 1) Both variants (and representative individuals e.g. RMS and Theo) encourage making useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. 2) Copyright statements (aka licenses) are just another tool. Different tools are needed to accomplish different tasks. Use the right tool for the right job. Get over it. 3) There is one difference between the two in one aspect of how 'freedom' is defined, especially in the context of software copyright statements. They're not going to agree, they don't have to agree. Get over it. 4) Other than that difference, there is great overlap between the chosen copyright statements. That appears to be the main idea behind Pau's comment. 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. Regards, -Lars
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bofh wrote: There's also Steve Wozniak - my hero - and a hacker after the best traditions. He's the guy who gave away schematics to Apple I, when they were trying to sell it, gave away source code to DOS (DOS has always been Disk Operating System for the Apple IIs to me, MSDOS being the crappy one), etc. The schematics and source code even came with the Apple II and, IIRC, the Apple II+. It was a huge foldout in the book containing (IIRC) the monitor code and the full 6502 instruction set. You could mod the hardware in anyway imaginable (at the time). I tried out stepper motors, data acquisition, custom ROMs, etc. The software was the same, I made primitive mods to many applications, but also even DOS and the system itself. That was one of the things I missed greatly during the proprietary phase that some unixes and Apple later passed through. While vastly more complex and useful than the Apple II+, OpenBSD brings back the customization and usefulness of software (as do several other systems). However, as far as I can tell, it is rather far ahead in cleanly understandable and well-done components that play well together. Regards, -Lars
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| That appears to be the main idea behind Pau's | comment. was that so difficult to understand? Anyway, I don't give two faeces, my son and I have had fun all day dancing the Home to Hypocrisy! A nice mixture of Jason and the argonauts and that character, hypokrite5s 2008/4/12, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23:23PM +0300, Lars Nood?n wrote: Pau wrote: ... I don't think it's a good idea to sow more discord ...than what there's already... Most of what's there is probably not naturally occurring. Just to drive home that point, see p39, pp 45-55, and p 119 of plaintiff exhibit 3096 from Comes v Microsoft (the Iowa case) http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf huh? Ok. For the intentionally or unintentionally obtuse: 1) Both variants (and representative individuals e.g. RMS and Theo) encourage making useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. 2) Copyright statements (aka licenses) are just another tool. Different tools are needed to accomplish different tasks. Use the right tool for the right job. Get over it. 3) There is one difference between the two in one aspect of how 'freedom' is defined, especially in the context of software copyright statements. They're not going to agree, they don't have to agree. Get over it. 4) Other than that difference, there is great overlap between the chosen copyright statements. That appears to be the main idea behind Pau's comment. 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. Regards, -Lars
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1) Both variants (and representative individuals e.g. RMS and Theo) encourage making useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. This is putting words in both these individuals mouth. You should not do that. You have no idea why either one of these chose to do what they did. You can only guess. 2) Copyright statements (aka licenses) are just another tool. Different tools are needed to accomplish different tasks. Use the right tool for the right job. Get over it. copyright != license This has been explained on these lists many time before. Theo has done some pretty good writeups on this. 3) There is one difference between the two in one aspect of how 'freedom' is defined, especially in the context of software copyright statements. They're not going to agree, they don't have to agree. Get over it. The courts tend to use the dictionary definition of words that in dispute. It has been pointed out beyond any reasonable doubt that rms uses the word freedom incorrectly. Since he is fully aware of that I can only deduce that he has some sort of agenda. 4) Other than that difference, there is great overlap between the chosen copyright statements. That appears to be the main idea behind Pau's comment. There is no such thing as copyright statements. There are copyrights that tell the world who the work belongs to and then there are licenses that stipulate how one can use the copyrighted work. 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. The cultivator here was rms. He lies and then contorts words to meet his reality. He trolled our lists with his drivel. We just disagreed and he got a little more than he bargained for.
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Marco Peereboom wrote: 1) Both variants (and representative individuals e.g. RMS and Theo) encourage making useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. This is putting words in both these individuals mouth. Putting words in their mouth would be more like X says, Z One routinely reads about mindreading on this list where X says that Y *thinks* Z What can be read/heard/observed from both is that they encourage making useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. Style and method diverge greatly, however. (*) ... no idea why ... No one mentioned 'why'. Re-read the post. 'what' they are both doing is encouraging creation of useful software, using the software, and making money from the software. 2) Copyright statements (aka licenses) are just another tool. Different tools are needed to accomplish different tasks. Use the right tool for the right job. Get over it. copyright != license This has been explained on these lists many time before. Theo has done some pretty good writeups on this. There are good and bad writeups in many places. But at the end of the day, copyright is just a supplemental tool. 3) There is one difference between the two in one aspect of how 'freedom' is defined, especially in the context of software copyright statements. They're not going to agree, they don't have to agree. Get over it. The courts tend to use the dictionary definition of words that in dispute... So what. That will be relevant the day they go to court. (* again) For now, they don't have to agree. Get over it. They are different projects (sandboxes) with different rules in each, one ISC one GPL. So if you want to play in the sandbox, then those are the rules you play by. 4) Other than that difference, there is great overlap between the chosen copyright statements. ... There is no such thing as copyright statements... The world's publishers and even the world's library catalogers seem by some oversight not to have been informed of your new terms and concepts. For now, until your changes to law and language kick in, it will be fine to continue using the established names for statements of copyright. If you need an authoritative source, then look it up in the AACR2, among other places. Regardless of what you call them, there is large functional overlap between the ISC and the GPL. MS License 6.0 in contrast would be at the opposite end of the spectrum from either of them. 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. [snipped] Regards, -Lars (*) I'm not concerned -- unless as an interim solution there is some sort of WWF-style smackdown charity match with proceeds going to either or both projects. RMS has the mass and a right proper Programmers' Beard, but Theo is probably in better shape.
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Lars NoodC)n wrote: (*) I'm not concerned -- unless as an interim solution there is some sort of WWF-style smackdown charity match with proceeds going to either or both projects. RMS has the mass and a right proper Programmers' Beard, but Theo is probably in better shape. Please keep also in mind : When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. But when Chuck wants to go to sleep, he calls Theo if he's allowed to.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:30:25AM +0200, Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg I had a good laugh, thanks ;-) -- Gilles Chehade http://www.poolp.org/
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 04:04:34PM +0300, Lars Nood?n wrote: 5) Cultivating antagonism between allies *is* a key part of the strategy used by the main opponent to OpenBSD. It wastes resources. In contrast, constructive competition leads to improvement. opponents, competition? Lars, you just don't get it. btw, my main beef with rms is that when the ath5k thing went down, I asked rms in personal email to make a generic statement about respecting copyrights. not comdemn or choose sides, just say something along the lines of despite differences in beliefs of freedom, the most important thing for all of free software is respect for copyright and chosen licensing. and he thought that might be a good idea. then he suddenly decided, because OpenBSD was involved, that he would not make such a statement. he went on to say that he could care less if OpenBSD developers drop dead. I was trying to get rms to be a hero, actually. I thought building flame war was bad for everyone. but he refused, because he is personally prejudice against OpenBSD. plain and simple. don't know about you, but imo, any self proclaimed defender of freedom, with such prejudice, is not at all a defender of freedom, but some one abusing the idea freedom for personal gain. one of the most vile types of people, imo. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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Yeah, that was a lng thread. Quite funny too hehe. It's good to see that the artwork is as good as ever =) Keep up the good job!
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Richard was here (universitat autrnoma de Barcelona) last Monday http://www.uab.es/anycomputacio/ I went to his talk, just out of curiousity. It was interesting. Not what he said, which was the old same story (and he dared to do it in Spanish, which made everything worse -my English is way mch better). I say it was interesting because gnu/linux was the first thing I discovered, when I left windows, some... 10? years ago (I was using windows 3.11 last time I did) and I found incredible that you could tell your computer to do something _you_ wanted. I found everything amazing, and I became a fanboy of gnu/linux. Later I saw The Light ;) Well.. listening to Richard talking about the freedom of code etc, in the way he did it: arriving 15 minutes later and making ~200 people wait, burping and belching many times, because he had drunk two teapots, and he also interrupted the talk asking aloud for a cloakroom and explicitly asking a prof. to take him to it, not taking into account that he had talked for more than two hours with long breaks due to his insufficient expertise in Spanish etc etc... made me thought of those years when I was a teenager. I would very probably have loved his way (and I have to admit that it's fine to be a bit rude from time to time to big bosses in general, if you can afford it, but not to the students). But this time I didn't. (gnu)Linux is something like a teenager. It lacks maturity. That talk was a wonderful metaphor of it. I wonder... probably a bit of publicity of the like (a public talk, but in a proper way) wouldn't hurt much to OpenBSD. I am almost sure that it should not be a problem to invite somebody to give such a talk and I, personally, would be very happy to see it happening... anyway... By the way, I love the small butts the nurses that are carrying the madgnu wear (in the last panel of the comic strip) Pau Amaro Seoane 2008/4/11, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, that was a lng thread. Quite funny too hehe. It's good to see that the artwork is as good as ever =) Keep up the good job!
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Just my two cents : I remember an interview with rms (about two years ago) where he critisised not only (open/net/free)bsd for shipping non-free software, but also ubuntu, redhat and others. The only really free distribution from his point of view is GNU/HURD, but since it will be released shortly after Duke Nukem Forever, we'll have to stay non-free one or two more months ;) So he declared others as non-free at least once... god knows why he didn't it do more often. By the way, Puffy lost his clothes when he left the ship ;)
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It took me a minute, but I'm guessing you mean their cigarettes and not their arses... :-) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Pau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard was here (universitat autrnoma de Barcelona) last Monday http://www.uab.es/anycomputacio/ I went to his talk, just out of curiousity. It was interesting. Not what he said, which was the old same story (and he dared to do it in Spanish, which made everything worse -my English is way mch better). I say it was interesting because gnu/linux was the first thing I discovered, when I left windows, some... 10? years ago (I was using windows 3.11 last time I did) and I found incredible that you could tell your computer to do something _you_ wanted. I found everything amazing, and I became a fanboy of gnu/linux. Later I saw The Light ;) Well.. listening to Richard talking about the freedom of code etc, in the way he did it: arriving 15 minutes later and making ~200 people wait, burping and belching many times, because he had drunk two teapots, and he also interrupted the talk asking aloud for a cloakroom and explicitly asking a prof. to take him to it, not taking into account that he had talked for more than two hours with long breaks due to his insufficient expertise in Spanish etc etc... made me thought of those years when I was a teenager. I would very probably have loved his way (and I have to admit that it's fine to be a bit rude from time to time to big bosses in general, if you can afford it, but not to the students). But this time I didn't. (gnu)Linux is something like a teenager. It lacks maturity. That talk was a wonderful metaphor of it. I wonder... probably a bit of publicity of the like (a public talk, but in a proper way) wouldn't hurt much to OpenBSD. I am almost sure that it should not be a problem to invite somebody to give such a talk and I, personally, would be very happy to see it happening... anyway... By the way, I love the small butts the nurses that are carrying the madgnu wear (in the last panel of the comic strip) Pau Amaro Seoane 2008/4/11, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, that was a lng thread. Quite funny too hehe. It's good to see that the artwork is as good as ever =) Keep up the good job!
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I've never felt attracted by fishes' buttocks... at least until today 2008/4/11, Gerald Thornberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It took me a minute, but I'm guessing you mean their cigarettes and not their arses... :-)
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o;?On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 00:30 +0200, Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg nice shop, but the letters need less anti-aliasing and better adaption to the lighting.
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On Friday 11 April 2008 18:30:25 Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg Is this a copyright violation, Theo? --STeve Andre'
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 18:30:25 Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg Is this a copyright violation, Theo? Are you a moron? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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On Friday 11 April 2008 22:21:33 bofh wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 18:30:25 Farvardin wrote: His reaction was quick to arrive: http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanopenbsdenemyofywi2.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stallmanfnacopenbsdfranyz4.jpg Is this a copyright violation, Theo? Are you a moron? Not the last time I checked. But I wasn't asking you, was I? So the concept of moronic attributes is open to question. --STeve Andre'
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twice a year I get to release the song lyrics, and write a little commentary on something the project dealt with other the release. Hope you guys enjoy. And that I have! I've already downloaded it and listened to it several times. Excellent song! Btw, already that thread was burned into my memory (I was recovering from back surgery when it took place), but now, with this song, the thread and the broader issues covered are archived in a different way for all to remember it by. Good job on the subject selection! I can't wait for my 4.3 CDs to arrive!
