Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-20 Thread Diana Eichert
Peter

I understand losing the "warm and fuzzy" feeling.  I lost mine too in
mid-June when I spent 12 days in hospital and have no recollection of
the first 4 days in hospital, but that is a story for another day.
:-)

I just sent an email to several OpenBSD developers to ping them
regarding interest in MangoPi  h/w.

73
diana
KI5PGJ

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Peter J. Philipp  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just so we don't lose the warm fuzzy feelings around this.  Diana do you
> want to give me your paypal address so I can transfer the 30 EUR to
> you?  I'm very excited about this, particularily because the mango pi
> comes out of china.
>
> Here is some interesting read I googled the other day:
> https://www.hpcwire.com/2023/07/19/how-china-is-building-an-open-national-chip-plan-around-risc-v/
>
> Risc-v is really taking off!  I do hope that sifive can give us
> something of value, because I heard about this Milk-V computer giving
> Intel/Sifive a run for their products.
>
> https://liliputing.com/milk-v-computers-feature-up-to-64-risc-v-cpu-cores/
>
> That said I'm hoping on invest in another risc-v computer by next year.
> Support for it will probably lack and I'll run linux on it for a while
> perhaps.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> -peter
>
> On 7/19/23 03:40, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
> > I'm going to reach out to a few folks who I see are doing riscv64
> > specific development.  I realize they might not want to take on yet
> > another h/w design.
> >
> > g.day
> >
> >
> > On July 18, 2023 3:14:18 PM MDT, Mike Larkin  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:02:45PM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi
> > to get them into OpenBSD developers working on riscv64
> > platform. It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting
> > h/w into OpenBSD developers hands on a semi-regular basis. diana
> >
> > Great. I don't know who would be interested, so I'd wait to let
> > them speak up before ordering anything. -ml
> >
> > On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"
> >  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J.
> > Philipp wrote:
> >
> > Hi *, I'm back for the moment. I was wondering who
> > has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 SBC? This is the Mango
> > Pi SBC. I have one which has linux on it currently
> > but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on it. But I'm
> > fairly lazy and haven't done much with this
> > lately. I can get to the riscv64 loader but when
> > it loads the kernel, it goes blind. So there is
> > more than just getting the GPIO pins configured
> > which I think I have been able to adjust. I use a
> > QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels
> > which is slow but this SBC isn't much faster
> > either (1000 Mhz it claims). I use this u-boot
> > directive to get into the boot loader: setenv
> > bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0
> > 
> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb
> > ; load mmc 0:f 0x4008
> > /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008
> > 0x4FA0' followed by a: run bootobsd I am
> > unsure how to save this though in the u-boot
> > itself. Any hints would be appreciated. I think we
> > need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort
> > of stuff perhaps it's too technical for misc.
> > Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone from
> > chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out
> > "1st wave" and "cade foster" on youtube (reruns),
> > this will feed you more ideas. my personal opinion
> > is that time travel of information is possible,
> > contributing to major headaches when events get
> > changed (for the prometheus seers). Back to
> > "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to
> > help getting the mango pi working. I'm hampered by
> > pride to ask knowledged people and these people
> > have their own directions and I don't want to
> > bother their efforts. The more we are the more we
> > could possibly get something done.
> >
> > The best way to get that done is to get hardware in
> > the hands of developer(s). Wishing on misc@ is 

Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-20 Thread Markus Rosjat

Hi Peter,

I got a VisionFive2 SBC laying arround, so if this is of interest for 
the devs too I can ship it somewhere.


cheers

Markus

Am 20.07.2023 um 10:32 schrieb Peter J. Philipp:

Hi all,

Just so we don't lose the warm fuzzy feelings around this.  Diana do 
you want to give me your paypal address so I can transfer the 30 EUR 
to you?  I'm very excited about this, particularily because the mango 
pi comes out of china.


Here is some interesting read I googled the other day: 
https://www.hpcwire.com/2023/07/19/how-china-is-building-an-open-national-chip-plan-around-risc-v/


Risc-v is really taking off!  I do hope that sifive can give us 
something of value, because I heard about this Milk-V computer giving 
Intel/Sifive a run for their products.


https://liliputing.com/milk-v-computers-feature-up-to-64-risc-v-cpu-cores/ 



That said I'm hoping on invest in another risc-v computer by next 
year.  Support for it will probably lack and I'll run linux on it for 
a while perhaps.


Best Regards,

-peter

On 7/19/23 03:40, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
I'm going to reach out to a few folks who I see are doing riscv64 
specific development.  I realize they might not want to take on yet 
another h/w design.


g.day


On July 18, 2023 3:14:18 PM MDT, Mike Larkin  
wrote:


    On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:02:45PM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com
    wrote:

    Hi Mike I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi
    to get them into OpenBSD developers working on riscv64
    platform. It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting
    h/w into OpenBSD developers hands on a semi-regular basis. diana
    Great. I don't know who would be interested, so I'd wait to let
    them speak up before ordering anything. -ml

    On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"
     wrote:

    On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:

    On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J.
    Philipp wrote:

    Hi *, I'm back for the moment. I was wondering who
    has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 SBC? This is the Mango
    Pi SBC. I have one which has linux on it currently
    but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on it. But I'm
    fairly lazy and haven't done much with this
    lately. I can get to the riscv64 loader but when
    it loads the kernel, it goes blind. So there is
    more than just getting the GPIO pins configured
    which I think I have been able to adjust. I use a
    QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels
    which is slow but this SBC isn't much faster
    either (1000 Mhz it claims). I use this u-boot
    directive to get into the boot loader: setenv
    bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0
/boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb
    ; load mmc 0:f 0x4008
    /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008
    0x4FA0' followed by a: run bootobsd I am
    unsure how to save this though in the u-boot
    itself. Any hints would be appreciated. I think we
    need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort
    of stuff perhaps it's too technical for misc.
    Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone from
    chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out
    "1st wave" and "cade foster" on youtube (reruns),
    this will feed you more ideas. my personal opinion
    is that time travel of information is possible,
    contributing to major headaches when events get
    changed (for the prometheus seers). Back to
    "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to
    help getting the mango pi working. I'm hampered by
    pride to ask knowledged people and these people
    have their own directions and I don't want to
    bother their efforts. The more we are the more we
    could possibly get something done.
    The best way to get that done is to get hardware in
    the hands of developer(s). Wishing on misc@ is likely
    not going to get anyone interested. Check the commit
    logs for people working in this area, reach out to
    them, and see if they are interested in helping. -ml
    Hi Mike, Thanks. This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get
    a new job soon, which will put extra money in my pocket.
    Then I may be able to get a handful of these perhaps. Do
    you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?
    Are 

Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-20 Thread Peter J. Philipp

Hi all,

Just so we don't lose the warm fuzzy feelings around this.  Diana do you 
want to give me your paypal address so I can transfer the 30 EUR to 
you?  I'm very excited about this, particularily because the mango pi 
comes out of china.


Here is some interesting read I googled the other day: 
https://www.hpcwire.com/2023/07/19/how-china-is-building-an-open-national-chip-plan-around-risc-v/


Risc-v is really taking off!  I do hope that sifive can give us 
something of value, because I heard about this Milk-V computer giving 
Intel/Sifive a run for their products.


https://liliputing.com/milk-v-computers-feature-up-to-64-risc-v-cpu-cores/

That said I'm hoping on invest in another risc-v computer by next year.  
Support for it will probably lack and I'll run linux on it for a while 
perhaps.


Best Regards,

-peter

On 7/19/23 03:40, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
I'm going to reach out to a few folks who I see are doing riscv64 
specific development.  I realize they might not want to take on yet 
another h/w design.


g.day


On July 18, 2023 3:14:18 PM MDT, Mike Larkin  wrote:

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:02:45PM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com
wrote:

Hi Mike I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi
to get them into OpenBSD developers working on riscv64
platform. It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting
h/w into OpenBSD developers hands on a semi-regular basis. diana 


Great. I don't know who would be interested, so I'd wait to let
them speak up before ordering anything. -ml

On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"
 wrote:

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J.
Philipp wrote:

Hi *, I'm back for the moment. I was wondering who
has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 SBC? This is the Mango
Pi SBC. I have one which has linux on it currently
but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on it. But I'm
fairly lazy and haven't done much with this
lately. I can get to the riscv64 loader but when
it loads the kernel, it goes blind. So there is
more than just getting the GPIO pins configured
which I think I have been able to adjust. I use a
QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels
which is slow but this SBC isn't much faster
either (1000 Mhz it claims). I use this u-boot
directive to get into the boot loader: setenv
bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0

/boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb
; load mmc 0:f 0x4008
/EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008
0x4FA0' followed by a: run bootobsd I am
unsure how to save this though in the u-boot
itself. Any hints would be appreciated. I think we
need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort
of stuff perhaps it's too technical for misc.
Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone from
chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out
"1st wave" and "cade foster" on youtube (reruns),
this will feed you more ideas. my personal opinion
is that time travel of information is possible,
contributing to major headaches when events get
changed (for the prometheus seers). Back to
"reality" I'm looking for a group of people to
help getting the mango pi working. I'm hampered by
pride to ask knowledged people and these people
have their own directions and I don't want to
bother their efforts. The more we are the more we
could possibly get something done. 


The best way to get that done is to get hardware in
the hands of developer(s). Wishing on misc@ is likely
not going to get anyone interested. Check the commit
logs for people working in this area, reach out to
them, and see if they are interested in helping. -ml 


Hi Mike, Thanks. This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get
a new job soon, which will put extra money in my pocket.
Then I may be able to get a handful of these perhaps. Do
you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?
Are they still interested in riscv64 after the initial
port with yours and Dales guidance? I think I paid
something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi 

Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-18 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
I'm going to reach out to a few folks who I see are doing riscv64 specific 
development.  I realize they might not want to take on yet another h/w design.

g.day


On July 18, 2023 3:14:18 PM MDT, Mike Larkin  wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:02:45PM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
>> Hi Mike
>>
>> I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi to get them into 
>> OpenBSD developers working on riscv64 platform.
>>
>> It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting h/w into OpenBSD 
>> developers hands on a semi-regular basis.
>>
>> diana
>>
>>
>
>Great. I don't know who would be interested, so I'd wait to let them speak
>up before ordering anything.
>
>-ml
>
>>
>> On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
>> wrote:
>> >On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
>> >> > Hi *,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 
>> >> > riscv64 SBC?
>> >> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot 
>> >> > OpenBSD on
>> >> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can 
>> >> > get
>> >> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
>> >> > there
>> >> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have 
>> >> > been
>> >> > able to adjust.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow 
>> >> > but this
>> >> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
>> >> >
>> >> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
>> >> >
>> >> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
>> >> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ; 
>> >> >  load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 
>> >> > 0x4008 0x4FA0'
>> >> >
>> >> > followed by a:
>> >> >
>> >> > run bootobsd
>> >> >
>> >> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints 
>> >> > would be
>> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
>> >> > perhaps
>> >> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of 
>> >> > someone
>> >> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
>> >> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
>> >> > personal
>> >> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
>> >> > major
>> >> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
>> >> >
>> >> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
>> >> > mango
>> >> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
>> >> > people
>> >> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  
>> >> > The more
>> >> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
>> >> developer(s).
>> >> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
>> >> commit
>> >> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they 
>> >> are
>> >> interested in helping.
>> >>
>> >> -ml
>> >
>> >Hi Mike,
>> >
>> >Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which 
>> >will
>> >put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
>> >perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are 
>> >they
>> >still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
>> >guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from 
>> >AliExpress
>> >buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
>> >
>> >Best Regards,
>> >-peter
>> >
>> >--
>> >Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with 
>> >QNX.
>> >


Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-18 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:02:45PM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
> Hi Mike
>
> I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi to get them into 
> OpenBSD developers working on riscv64 platform.
>
> It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting h/w into OpenBSD 
> developers hands on a semi-regular basis.
>
> diana
>
>

Great. I don't know who would be interested, so I'd wait to let them speak
up before ordering anything.

-ml

>
> On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
> wrote:
> >On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> >> > Hi *,
> >> >
> >> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 
> >> > SBC?
> >> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
> >> >
> >> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot 
> >> > OpenBSD on
> >> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can 
> >> > get
> >> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
> >> > there
> >> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have 
> >> > been
> >> > able to adjust.
> >> >
> >> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow 
> >> > but this
> >> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
> >> >
> >> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
> >> >
> >> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
> >> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  
> >> > load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 
> >> > 0x4008 0x4FA0'
> >> >
> >> > followed by a:
> >> >
> >> > run bootobsd
> >> >
> >> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints 
> >> > would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
> >> > perhaps
> >> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of 
> >> > someone
> >> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
> >> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
> >> > personal
> >> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
> >> > major
> >> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
> >> >
> >> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
> >> > mango
> >> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
> >> > people
> >> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The 
> >> > more
> >> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
> >> developer(s).
> >> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
> >> commit
> >> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they 
> >> are
> >> interested in helping.
> >>
> >> -ml
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which will
> >put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
> >perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are 
> >they
> >still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
> >guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from 
> >AliExpress
> >buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >-peter
> >
> >--
> >Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with 
> >QNX.
> >



Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-18 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
Hi Mike

I've volunteered to coordinate a purchase of Mango Pi to get them into OpenBSD 
developers working on riscv64 platform.

It has been awhile but I used to facilitate getting h/w into OpenBSD developers 
hands on a semi-regular basis.

diana 



On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
>> > Hi *,
>> >
>> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 
>> > SBC?
>> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
>> >
>> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD 
>> > on
>> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can get
>> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
>> > there
>> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have 
>> > been
>> > able to adjust.
>> >
>> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow but 
>> > this
>> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
>> >
>> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
>> >
>> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
>> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  
>> > load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008 
>> > 0x4FA0'
>> >
>> > followed by a:
>> >
>> > run bootobsd
>> >
>> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints would 
>> > be
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
>> > perhaps
>> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone
>> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
>> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
>> > personal
>> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
>> > major
>> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
>> >
>> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
>> > mango
>> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
>> > people
>> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The 
>> > more
>> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
>> >
>> 
>> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
>> developer(s).
>> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
>> commit
>> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they are
>> interested in helping.
>> 
>> -ml
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which will 
>put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
>perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are they
>still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
>guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from AliExpress
>buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
>
>Best Regards,
>-peter
>
>-- 
>Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
>


Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-17 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 05:18:34PM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 08:41:56AM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
> > Hi Peter
> > 
> > I don't have a lot of spare money lately, last week extensive car repair 
> > and the home air conditioner failed last week, however I can contribute 
> > funds for quantity 1 and maybe 2 Mango Pi.  Perhaps some one else can help 
> > too.
> > 
> > diana
> 
> OK you got me Diana, I'll pledge 60 EUR, I have some reserves.  That should
> be enough for 2 Mango Pi's.  So we have 3-4 Mango Pi's.  Anyone else willing
> to put in some money?  I don't know how to go about this best, should I
> pay my pledge to openbsdfoundation with the explicit request that this should
> go toward these?  Or how would we escrow this?  Does OpenBSD have the means
> of ordering from AliExpress?

Alright 60 EUR paid to the OpenBSD foundation.  Bob Beck or Ken Westerback 
can confirm this perhaps.  It didn't allow a comment to indicate that this is
for Mango Pi's specifically so I'm hoping the OpenBSD organisation can work 
it out.

Best Regards,
-peter

> I still have an outstanding pledge to OpenBSD of 5 EUR, which I'll pay when
> or if OpenBSD 7.4 gets ED448 support.  I'm really hoping it will go in before
> the release so that I can adjust my software accordingly for this year (my
> release is in November/December).
> 
> Best Regards,
> -peter
> 
> > On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
> > wrote:
> > >On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> > >> > Hi *,
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 
> > >> > riscv64 SBC?
> > >> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot 
> > >> > OpenBSD on
> > >> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I 
> > >> > can get
> > >> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
> > >> > there
> > >> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I 
> > >> > have been
> > >> > able to adjust.
> > >> >
> > >> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow 
> > >> > but this
> > >> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
> > >> >
> > >> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
> > >> >
> > >> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
> > >> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb 
> > >> > ;  load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 
> > >> > 0x4008 0x4FA0'
> > >> >
> > >> > followed by a:
> > >> >
> > >> > run bootobsd
> > >> >
> > >> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints 
> > >> > would be
> > >> > appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
> > >> > perhaps
> > >> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of 
> > >> > someone
> > >> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
> > >> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
> > >> > personal
> > >> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing 
> > >> > to major
> > >> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
> > >> >
> > >> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting 
> > >> > the mango
> > >> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
> > >> > people
> > >> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  
> > >> > The more
> > >> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > >> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
> > >> developer(s).
> > >> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
> > >> commit
> > >> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they 
> > >> are
> > >> interested in helping.
> > >> 
> > >> -ml
> > >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which 
> > >will 
> > >put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
> > >perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are 
> > >they
> > >still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
> > >guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from 
> > >AliExpress
> > >buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
> > >
> > >Best Regards,
> > >-peter
> > >
> > >-- 
> > >Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with 
> > >QNX.
> > >
> 
> -- 
> Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
> 

-- 
Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.



Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-17 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 08:41:56AM -0600, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
> Hi Peter
> 
> I don't have a lot of spare money lately, last week extensive car repair and 
> the home air conditioner failed last week, however I can contribute funds for 
> quantity 1 and maybe 2 Mango Pi.  Perhaps some one else can help too.
> 
> diana

OK you got me Diana, I'll pledge 60 EUR, I have some reserves.  That should
be enough for 2 Mango Pi's.  So we have 3-4 Mango Pi's.  Anyone else willing
to put in some money?  I don't know how to go about this best, should I
pay my pledge to openbsdfoundation with the explicit request that this should
go toward these?  Or how would we escrow this?  Does OpenBSD have the means
of ordering from AliExpress?

I still have an outstanding pledge to OpenBSD of 5 EUR, which I'll pay when
or if OpenBSD 7.4 gets ED448 support.  I'm really hoping it will go in before
the release so that I can adjust my software accordingly for this year (my
release is in November/December).

Best Regards,
-peter

> On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
> wrote:
> >On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> >> > Hi *,
> >> >
> >> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 
> >> > SBC?
> >> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
> >> >
> >> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot 
> >> > OpenBSD on
> >> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can 
> >> > get
> >> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
> >> > there
> >> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have 
> >> > been
> >> > able to adjust.
> >> >
> >> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow 
> >> > but this
> >> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
> >> >
> >> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
> >> >
> >> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
> >> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  
> >> > load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 
> >> > 0x4008 0x4FA0'
> >> >
> >> > followed by a:
> >> >
> >> > run bootobsd
> >> >
> >> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints 
> >> > would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
> >> > perhaps
> >> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of 
> >> > someone
> >> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
> >> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
> >> > personal
> >> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
> >> > major
> >> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
> >> >
> >> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
> >> > mango
> >> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
> >> > people
> >> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The 
> >> > more
> >> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
> >> >
> >> 
> >> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
> >> developer(s).
> >> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
> >> commit
> >> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they 
> >> are
> >> interested in helping.
> >> 
> >> -ml
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which 
> >will 
> >put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
> >perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are 
> >they
> >still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
> >guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from 
> >AliExpress
> >buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >-peter
> >
> >-- 
> >Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with 
> >QNX.
> >

-- 
Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.



Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-17 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
Hi Peter

I don't have a lot of spare money lately, last week extensive car repair and 
the home air conditioner failed last week, however I can contribute funds for 
quantity 1 and maybe 2 Mango Pi.  Perhaps some one else can help too.

diana

On July 16, 2023 1:13:02 PM MDT, "Peter J. Philipp"  
wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
>> > Hi *,
>> >
>> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 
>> > SBC?
>> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
>> >
>> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD 
>> > on
>> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can get
>> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So 
>> > there
>> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have 
>> > been
>> > able to adjust.
>> >
>> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow but 
>> > this
>> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
>> >
>> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
>> >
>> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
>> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  
>> > load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008 
>> > 0x4FA0'
>> >
>> > followed by a:
>> >
>> > run bootobsd
>> >
>> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints would 
>> > be
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff 
>> > perhaps
>> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone
>> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
>> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
>> > personal
>> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
>> > major
>> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
>> >
>> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
>> > mango
>> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these 
>> > people
>> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The 
>> > more
>> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
>> >
>> 
>> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of 
>> developer(s).
>> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
>> commit
>> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they are
>> interested in helping.
>> 
>> -ml
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which will 
>put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
>perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are they
>still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
>guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from AliExpress
>buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.
>
>Best Regards,
>-peter
>
>-- 
>Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
>


Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-16 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:25:50PM +, Mike Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> > Hi *,
> >
> > I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 
> > SBC?
> > This is the Mango Pi SBC.
> >
> > I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on
> > it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can get
> > to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So there
> > is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have been
> > able to adjust.
> >
> > I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow but 
> > this
> > SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
> >
> > I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
> >
> > setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
> > /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  
> > load mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008 
> > 0x4FA0'
> >
> > followed by a:
> >
> > run bootobsd
> >
> > I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints would 
> > be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff perhaps
> > it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone
> > from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
> > "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my 
> > personal
> > opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to 
> > major
> > headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
> >
> > Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the 
> > mango
> > pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these people
> > have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The 
> > more
> > we are the more we could possibly get something done.
> >
> 
> The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of developer(s).
> Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the 
> commit
> logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they are
> interested in helping.
> 
> -ml

Hi Mike,

Thanks.  This will take a bit, I'm in talks to get a new job soon, which will 
put extra money in my pocket.  Then I may be able to get a handful of these
perhaps.  Do you still keep tabs on Shivam, Mars, Brian, and Wenyan?  Are they
still interested in riscv64 after the initial port with yours and Dales
guidance?  I think I paid something like 30 EUR for a Mango Pi from AliExpress
buying 4 would work but I can only do this when I have secured the job.

Best Regards,
-peter

-- 
Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.



Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-16 Thread Mike Larkin
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:56:51AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 SBC?
> This is the Mango Pi SBC.
>
> I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on
> it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can get
> to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So there
> is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have been
> able to adjust.
>
> I use a QEMU-based riscv64 emulation to compile kernels which is slow but this
> SBC isn't much faster either (1000 Mhz it claims).
>
> I use this u-boot directive to get into the boot loader:
>
> setenv bootobsd 'load mmc 0:1 0x4FA0 
> /boot/dtbs/5.19.0-1009-allwinner/allwinner/sun20i-d1-nezha-memory.dtb ;  load 
> mmc 0:f 0x4008  /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTRISCV64.EFI ; bootefi 0x4008 
> 0x4FA0'
>
> followed by a:
>
> run bootobsd
>
> I am unsure how to save this though in the u-boot itself.  Any hints would be
> appreciated.
>
> I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff perhaps
> it's too technical for misc.  Regarding to the nostradamus stuff of someone
> from chicago (Re: A couple of Questions) , check out "1st wave" and
> "cade foster" on youtube (reruns), this will feed you more ideas.  my personal
> opinion is that time travel of information is possible, contributing to major
> headaches when events get changed (for the prometheus seers).
>
> Back to "reality" I'm looking for a group of people to help getting the mango
> pi working.  I'm hampered by pride to ask knowledged people and these people
> have their own directions and I don't want to bother their efforts.  The more
> we are the more we could possibly get something done.
>

The best way to get that done is to get hardware in the hands of developer(s).
Wishing on misc@ is likely not going to get anyone interested. Check the commit
logs for people working in this area, reach out to them, and see if they are
interested in helping.

-ml



Re: Allwinner D1 riscv64 mango pi SBC

2023-07-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2023-07-16, Peter J. Philipp  wrote:
> Hi *, 
>
> I'm back for the moment.  I was wondering who has a Allwinner D1 riscv64 SBC?
> This is the Mango Pi SBC.
>
> I have one which has linux on it currently but I'm trying to boot OpenBSD on
> it.  But I'm fairly lazy and haven't done much with this lately.  I can get
> to the riscv64 loader but when it loads the kernel, it goes blind.  So there
> is more than just getting the GPIO pins configured which I think I have been
> able to adjust.

The SoC is not on the supported hardware list so will probably need some
development work to get it to run.

> I think we need a specific riscv mailing list for this sort of stuff perhaps
> it's too technical for misc.

I don't think it's too technical. The existing hw-specific lists aren't
really that widely used so there doesn't seem a lot of point in setting
up another.