[MOPO] CHAPLIN-With 17 hrs to go
And still at 835.00 Will it break 1000.00 in the last minutes or seconds of the auction? Please waitImage not available Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.htmlhttp://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: mailto:sa...@comic-art.comRichard Halegua Comic Art To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.htmlhttp://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] CHAPLIN-With 17 hrs to go
Is the decimal point in the right place? ad --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com Subject: [MOPO] CHAPLIN-With 17 hrs to go To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 3:51 AM And still at 835.00 Will it break 1000.00 in the last minutes or seconds of the auction? Please waitImage not available Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT - Who is this woman?
Yes, it's Judi Dench in 1968. In Sunday's New York Times Book Review, there will be a review of her new memoir, And Furthermore. The subscriber's link is here but I think all books and art and movie-related links are live for all readers: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/books/review/Brockes-t.html?_r=1nl=booksemc=booksupdateema4 Most of the e-mails I received privately instantly recognized Judi Dench - but some of the incorrect guesses I got included names like Dianne Wiest, Glenda Jackson and Julie Christie. -d. Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:35:27 -0800 From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com Subject: OT - Who is this woman? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU A friend sent the image below to me this morning as a test and I was clueless. He would only say the woman was 34 years old when it was taken. Later I guessed correctly but only after he offered this clue - she once said hers was be the only un-lifted face in Hollywood. Most of you keen-eyed members will identify her immediately. But I was VERY SLOW picking it up. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
* I've remarked several times since the 1990s on MoPo about the love-hate relationship people have towards 2001, which is also one of my fav films about man being the only living species on earth that has a self-awareness of being a living, thinking, breathing thing - that's forever trying to find answers to things that are within - and far beyond his reach. * But here's the oddest thing. In the 42 years since its release - excepting the chick-nerds you see at sci-fi and comic conventions - I HAVE NEVER MET ONE WOMAN WHO LOVES 2001. Years ago I used to try to explain the picture to women and they'd just give me that totally blank, you are such an unattractive and pretentious nerd stare. So I stopped. Seriously, if women aren't already tepid about it, they outright hate it - and are puzzled that it's on any list of top films. It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Amongst film fans, arguments always break out about it merits, so I generally don't like to bring it up to show my age. It's been over-hyped by baby boomers born from 1945 to 1964. Generation X'rs born from 1965-1979 feel it's overrated and Generation Y'rs born from 1980 to 1994 think it's like watching a black-and-white-silent-movie with no subtitles. New Millennials born after 1995 (who are now smart-alecky 15-year olds) aren't worth trying to make a dent about it. * I think the film is brilliant for its time and still feels undated except for the totally fake-looking, pre-Rick Baker era ape scenes in the beginning. But to be fair, I also get why people feel it's a non-linear/abstract, Jackson Pollock type-of-you-figure-it-out-for-yourself-to-show-you're-hip-bore. -d. Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:38:30 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Is that the movie with the robot with a red eye that talks so slowly I fall asleep? --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 9:38 yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Phew! I'm glad our 2001 poster does not feature ET-embryo's or boring spaceships ;) ET-embryo and Spaceship Free 2001 Poster Ron - Original Message - From: bqjansen To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made * The Killinghttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049406/ *, * Paths of Glory http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050825/*, * Lolitahttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056193/ *, and * Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/* I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - *From:* Ari Richards ariricha...@yahoo.com.au *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I *usually* agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- *From:* bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely
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Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
That's okay. We took some young folks to see 2001 during it's star-child poster re-release in the early 70s and, despite the colorful goodies we ingested at the time, they were bored to death! About three years later Star Wars was born. Joe B in NOLA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 3:38 AM yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Now, David, you have mentioned the ULTIMATE bore of all time!!! I rented the blu ray to see the beautiful bw cinematography and see if I could get anything out of this film I was so bored by almost a half-century ago. I made it through 32 minutes. Stunning cinematography! Snore! Joe --- On Sat, 3/5/11, David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com wrote: From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 5:27 AM * I've remarked several times since the 1990s on MoPo about the love-hate relationship people have towards 2001, which is also one of my fav films about man being the only living species on earth that has a self-awareness of being a living, thinking, breathing thing - that's forever trying to find answers to things that are within - and far beyond his reach. * But here's the oddest thing. In the 42 years since its release - excepting the chick-nerds you see at sci-fi and comic conventions - I HAVE NEVER MET ONE WOMAN WHO LOVES 2001. Years ago I used to try to explain the picture to women and they'd just give me that totally blank, you are such an unattractive and pretentious nerd stare. So I stopped. Seriously, if women aren't already tepid about it, they outright hate it - and are puzzled that it's on any list of top films. It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Amongst film fans, arguments always break out about it merits, so I generally don't like to bring it up to show my age. It's been over-hyped by baby boomers born from 1945 to 1964. Generation X'rs born from 1965-1979 feel it's overrated and Generation Y'rs born from 1980 to 1994 think it's like watching a black-and-white-silent-movie with no subtitles. New Millennials born after 1995 (who are now smart-alecky 15-year olds) aren't worth trying to make a dent about it. * I think the film is brilliant for its time and still feels undated except for the totally fake-looking, pre-Rick Baker era ape scenes in the beginning. But to be fair, I also get why people feel it's a non-linear/abstract, Jackson Pollock type-of-you-figure-it-out-for-yourself-to-show-you're-hip-bore. -d. Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:38:30 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richardsmailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.au To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nlmailto:w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Artmailto:sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The
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I was seated in the balcony of a packed Windsor Cinerama Theater on the first night of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY's lengthy run in Houston in 1968. Starting with DESTINATION MOON in 1950. I had seen practically every sf flick to grace Houston's big downtown and small neighborhood screens. The good -- DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, FORBIDDEN PLANET and THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD --, the bad -- BRAIN FROM PLANET AROUS, KILLERS FROM SPACE and REPTILICUS -- and the ugly -- PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, MISSILE TO THE MOON and TEENAGERS FROM OUTER SPACE. As audience, 2001 caught us all offguard. It was long, visually impressive and both jolting and perplexing. It's soundtrack was eerily spartan and devoid of the theramin-type electronic effects that had become cliche' for the genre. An avid science-fiction reader as well, I sat mesmerized, happy to finally see that here was a epic space adventure flavored with realities which we had come to know from films of NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions. Naturally, in 1968, the movie made for many great conversations over pie and coffee following each of the four times I saw it on its initial run at The Windsor. Due to the success of 2001, movies like SILENT RUNNING and the television series -- SPACE: 1999 for one -- adopted the austere design of Kubrick's classic. STAR WARS and the advancement of CGI spfx changed all of that. Today, many of our science-fiction films seem like episodes of SPACE PATROL or THE OUTER LIMITS with better soundtracks and eye-dazzling effects. As the years have passed, 2001 has fallen in my film favorites. It is too demanding and laboriously long to just slip into the DVD player end enjoy on a damp evening on the comfy couch with crackling fireplace. Some might even find it boring. You either like 2001 or you don't. I do, but less so than when I first viewed it. Others fall into the camp of the audience member seated next to me in that packed theater in 1968. After the movie ended and the lights came up, a silence had fallen over the confused crowd. After a pregnant pause, my next seat neighbor broke the quiet with his comment, What the hell was that??!! Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Phil Edwards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he
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I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit
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I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I
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Unlike Bruce, and I assume Dave. I LOVE Eyes Wide Shut. I didn't think I would and put it off for ages. But since then its grown on me every time. Back to 2001, I do find it strange that people I know love to read SF don't like the film, to me as a SF fan (books) SF films are 99% a real let down, being rather Action or Horror (etc) in outerspace, or the future or whatever. Blade Runner, 2001 and Metropolis being the first 3 exceptions that come to mind. Ari From: Dave Rosen hah...@sympatico.ca To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 6 March, 2011 2:46:38 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 isa snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have everseen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I feltsimilarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I wascompletely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick thatmade The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learnedto Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them allabsolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows adirector too much control over their movies, and that can be a badthing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with,and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] MyFriend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy tonot stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but alsothat you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters ofET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich -tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking,poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellowbellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to
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I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?” I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards mailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.au To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari _ From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art mailto:sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's
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I saw 2001 beamed to a wall from a videoplayer in a discotheque in the early eighties. I was very multimedial then. Maybe that's the reason why I fought it a little slow As I was single at the time I was kind also of distracted every now and again and so I missed a few bits. Maybe I should try and see it again. Still will be bored by the posters though. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 17:09 heeft peter contarino het volgende geschreven: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?” I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/ room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air
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I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but
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Heritage is once again offering an incredible selection of vintage original posters, lobby cards, photos, and more! Please come take a look at all the great items you could get at very reasonable prices this week. The 447 lots in this week's auction will end tomorrow, Sunday, March 6th at 10PM CT. http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=54+793+794+791+792+2088+4294955806 Here are just a few of the fantastic items we are offering this week: The Hold-Up at Devil's Pass (Unicorn Film Service, 1912) Stone Litho Western One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50178 White Christmas (Paramount, 1954) Rolled One Sheet w/ Bing Crosby Danny Kaye http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50427 Dirty Harry (Warner Brothers, 1971) Clint Eastwood Lobby Cards (7) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50110 Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS (Cambist Films, 1975) Dyanne Thorne Cult Exploitation One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50190 Sands of Iwo Jima (Republic, 1950) Great John Wayne Insert http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50333 The Mysterious Airman (Weiss Brothers Artclass Pictures, 1928) Three Sheet Chapter 9 Warning From the Sky http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50272 Just Travelin' (Sierra Pictures, 1925) Bob Burns Stone Litho Western One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50208 Tarzan the Ape Man (MGM, 1932) Rare Spanish Language Three Sheet - same art as U.S. http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50382 Loving You (Paramount, 1957) Elvis Presley Three Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50235 Mr. Mrs. Smith (RKO, 1941) Hitchcock One Sheet w/ Carole Lombard http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50264 Roustabout (Paramount, 1964) Elvis Presley Lobby Card Set of 8 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50330 The Crawling Eye (DCA, 1958) Cult Classic Sci-Fi/Horror One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50093 Hot Lunch (Essex, 1978) Cult Adult One Sheet w/ Desiree Cousteau http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50182 Rosemary's Baby (Paramount, 1968) Roman Polanski Horror One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50329 Rocky (United Artists, 1977) Sylvester Stallone Lobby Card Set of 8 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50324 Play Square (Fox, 1921) Beautiful Stone Litho One Sheet w/ Johnnie Walker http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50302 The Pit and the Pendulum (American International, 1961) Vincent Price One Sheet w/ Reynold Brown art http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50296 Jean Harlow Pinup Portrait (MGM, 1930s) Photo (8 X 10). http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50202 Legend of the Werewolf (Rank, 1975) British Horror One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50217 Planet of the Apes (20th Century Fox, 1968) Charlton Heston Door Panels (2) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50300 The Ape (Monogram, 1940) Four Boris Karloff Lobby Cards http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50026 Ride the Wild Surf (Columbia, 1964) Great Surfing One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50320 Yellow Submarine (United Artists, 1968) Beatles Lobby Cards (3) http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50443 Nazi Love Camp (Group 1, 1977) Exploitation One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50274 Blade Runner (Warner Brothers, 1982) Harrison Ford/Ridley Scott Japanese B2 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50055 Foreign Correspondent (Masterpiece, R-1948) Alfred Hitchcock One Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50143 The Memphis Belle (Paramount, 1944) World War II Documentary Half Sheet Style B http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50252 The Terror (American International, 1963) Boris Karloff w/ Reynold Brown art Half Sheet http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161110Lot_No=50388 And way, way more great items! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type:
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, âwhat on earth did we just see?â Â I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, âYou are welcome to speculate â Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says âI think it is brilliant for its time,â that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isnât that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: mailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.auAri Richards To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film.
[MOPO] Cool poster on ebay uk
I thought I'd share this poster with my friends, including my 2001-dull buddy (Sean) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RCA-PHOTOPHONE-RARE-COMING-SOUND-POSTER-ORIGINAL-/310299452846?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LEhash=item483f49e5ae Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Mopo- 2001 - starchild poster
just since we are talking about 2001 when I bought the 16mm print I also received several posters.. I still have this odd Black and white Starchild poster about the size of a smaller 1/ sheet.. I bought the film in 80s so I guess this was 70s.. I never researched it as I assumed it was some re-release poster art,, the star child is like a a large dot matrix 1/2 tone on enamel paper stock.black and white. I assume its a promo poster for either coleges or art theatres?? has anyone ever seen one? Its almost like a commercial poster size however not 24 x 36 Its for sale... Ill take 100.00 postpaid for this mystery poster 2001 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. (more later when i have time). neil --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?â€�  I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…â€� Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,â€� that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he
[MOPO] Early color Veronica Lake photo
Taken in 1941. BEAUTIFUL!! sold on ebay on 2/26/11. For all the LAKE fans out there: Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] 2001 snorefest and the Windsor Cinerama...
Further following the moon monolith's mind-bending emanations, here is a story about the Kubrick classic's premiere at the Windsor Cinerama in 1968 that appeared in a 2008 online edition of the Houston Chronicle http://blogs.chron.com/40yearsafter/2008/04/2001_a_houston_odyssey_looking_1.html Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually
Re: [MOPO] Cool poster on ebay uk
I recently was consigned a lot of early trade magazines from 1927 to 1932 (I auctioned them in my Sunday auctions) and it is fascinating to see just how many theaters and important people saw sound as a passing fad and RCA ran ad after ad BEGGING theaters to install sound equipment. It cost a lot, so you can see why they were reluctant to do so. William Fox was convinced that silent films would win out, and he kept on producing them a full year after everyone else. When he saw how wrong he was, he bought MGM, and he would have become the foremost Hollywood studio, but the stock market crash ruined his financing. So a single bad decision and dreadful timing massively changed Hollywood history! Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: I thought I'd share this poster with my friends, including my 2001-dull buddy (Sean) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RCA-PHOTOPHONE-RARE-COMING-SOUND-POSTER-ORIGINAL-/310299452846?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LEhash=item483f49e5ae Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
There were two factors that completely ruined Eyes Wide Shut for me: 1) I thought Cruise and Kidman had the least chemistry of any couple I have ever seen (and at the time, I was amazed that they were married to each other) 2) Were we supposed to seriously think that mega-rich men would wear weird masked robes and listen to Gregorian chants just so they could have sex with beautiful women? I wouldn't go through that rigmarole to be with Cleopatra herself. I may be too much of a literalist for that movie. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. *(more later when i have time).* * * neil --- On *Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com*wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?�  I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter *From:* MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUhttp://mc/compose?to=mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Smith, Grey - 1367 *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
absolutely!the savvy critic david thomson (and otherwise huge kubrick fan) summed up the film's crucial failing very well here: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.22.99/talk-pix-9929.html I think that lots of people, critics and the general public, will make fun of this film, predicts Thomson 90 minutes later as we sit down to a late lunch. For all its packaging as a serious exploration of sexual obsession, Eyes Wide Shut has got a kind of built-in foolishness to it.That orgy scene, he laughs, was, I think, the orgy of a man who's never been to an orgy. --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 22:55 There were two factors that completely ruined Eyes Wide Shut for me: 1) I thought Cruise and Kidman had the least chemistry of any couple I have ever seen (and at the time, I was amazed that they were married to each other) 2) Were we supposed to seriously think that mega-rich men would wear weird masked robes and listen to Gregorian chants just so they could have sex with beautiful women? I wouldn't go through that rigmarole to be with Cleopatra herself. I may be too much of a literalist for that movie. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. (more later when i have time). neil --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you
Re: [MOPO] 2001 snorefest and the Windsor Cinerama...
Wonderful article, Earl. I can tell you that this theater was the best I have ever seen a film in, and I include the Pacific Cinerama dome, and the Cinerama theaters in Seattle as well. I saw DOCTOR ZHIVAGO, OLIVER!, KHARTOUM, THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE and 2001 there. These films were great for that venue. ZHIVAGO was shot in 35mm and blown to 70, and looked great. Sometimes they would show 35mm stuff there and the result was not always the best. I recall BECKET looking a little distorted. The last film I remember seeing there was THE GO BETWEEN, and I wondered at the time: Why? It later became a disco, and I heard, though I never witnessed i,t that they would project scrap film while the patrons were dancing. Can anyone confirm this? It was a stellar movie-going experience. I saw SPARTACUS at the Century City in L.A. when they refurbished the film, and it looked great. But as far as a facility, nothing touched the Windsor. And the SOUND was super. Loud with great dynamic range when 70mm was the source -- but never drilling and harsh like the worst of these digital rigs can sometimes be. Kirby www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Captain Bijou wrote: Further following the moon monolith's mind-bending emanations, here is a story about the Kubrick classic's premiere at the Windsor Cinerama in 1968 that appeared in a 2008 online edition of the Houston Chronicle http://blogs.chron.com/40yearsafter/2008/04/2001_a_houston_odyssey_looking_1.html Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From:
Re: [MOPO] 2001 snorefest and the Windsor Cinerama...
Cinerama films that played at the Windsor and other Cinerama theatres in Houston: http://cinematreasures.org/news/19735_0_1_0_M/ Premiere of 2001 at the Windsor: http://www.examiner.com/history-in-houston/the-windsor-cinerama-theater-photo Pictures of the theatre: http://books.google.com/books?id=R6XDCyvuGSkCpg=PA230lpg=PA230dq=windsor+cinerama+theatre+houstonsource=blots=Jy6FRZyt01sig=_0s1eVl6M4sGJOH69Y6ivQZmYlohl=enei=7tNyTdicJ4OKlwfu-9A9sa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=7ved=0CEIQ6AEwBg#v=onepageq=windsor%20cinerama%20theatre%20houstonf=false From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 6:07:47 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] 2001 snorefest and the Windsor Cinerama... Wonderful article, Earl. I can tell you that this theater was the best I have ever seen a film in, and I include the Pacific Cinerama dome, and the Cinerama theaters in Seattle as well. I saw DOCTOR ZHIVAGO, OLIVER!, KHARTOUM, THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE and 2001 there. These films were great for that venue. ZHIVAGO was shot in 35mm and blown to 70, and looked great. Sometimes they would show 35mm stuff there and the result was not always the best. I recall BECKET looking a little distorted. The last film I remember seeing there was THE GO BETWEEN, and I wondered at the time: Why? It later became a disco, and I heard, though I never witnessed i,t that they would project scrap film while the patrons were dancing. Can anyone confirm this? It was a stellar movie-going experience. I saw SPARTACUS at the Century City in L.A. when they refurbished the film, and it looked great. But as far as a facility, nothing touched the Windsor. And the SOUND was super. Loud with great dynamic range when 70mm was the source -- but never drilling and harsh like the worst of these digital rigs can sometimes be. Kirby www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Captain Bijou wrote: Further following the moon monolith's mind-bending emanations, here is a story about the Kubrick classic's premiere at the Windsor Cinerama in 1968 that appeared in a 2008 online edition of the Houston Chronicle http://blogs.chron.com/40yearsafter/2008/04/2001_a_houston_odyssey_looking_1.html l Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on
Re: [MOPO] 2001 snorefest and the Windsor Cinerama...
Kirby, Earl I lived in Houston from '63 thru '69 and one of my most vivid and probably first movie going experiences in that city was seeing It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World in Cinerama in 1963 at the Windsor. I was six years old and I remember being blown away, no doubt thinking, this must be what all movies were like in this big city! I later saw Dr. Zhivago there and really enjoying that epic. I vividly remember 2001 being there for quite a long time, and asking my mother if I could see it and her telling me something like, Oh, you wouldn't like it. I was 11 years old and she was probably right at that time. On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net wrote: Wonderful article, Earl. I can tell you that this theater was the best I have ever seen a film in, and I include the Pacific Cinerama dome, and the Cinerama theaters in Seattle as well. I saw DOCTOR ZHIVAGO, OLIVER!, KHARTOUM, THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE and 2001 there. These films were great for that venue. ZHIVAGO was shot in 35mm and blown to 70, and looked great. Sometimes they would show 35mm stuff there and the result was not always the best. I recall BECKET looking a little distorted. The last film I remember seeing there was THE GO BETWEEN, and I wondered at the time: Why? It later became a disco, and I heard, though I never witnessed i,t that they would project scrap film while the patrons were dancing. Can anyone confirm this? It was a stellar movie-going experience. I saw SPARTACUS at the Century City in L.A. when they refurbished the film, and it looked great. But as far as a facility, nothing touched the Windsor. And the SOUND was super. Loud with great dynamic range when 70mm was the source -- but never drilling and harsh like the worst of these digital rigs can sometimes be. Kirby www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Captain Bijou wrote: Further following the moon monolith's mind-bending emanations, here is a story about the Kubrick classic's premiere at the Windsor Cinerama in 1968 that appeared in a 2008 online edition of the Houston Chronicle http://blogs.chron.com/40yearsafter/2008/04/2001_a_houston_odyssey_looking_1.html Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and
[MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: * http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 * and *http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033*http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Which would *YOU* rather have in your collection? And do *YOU *gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer
high bid was $3919 and change jeff On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, allen day wrote: A guess-timate: 6-8k For certain: a jump 5k in the last 8 secs ad --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 7:37 PM there's a CC poster on ebay that's (not surprisingly) getting significant heat due to its awesome image. some knowledgeable buyers (no doubt MOPOers) have rightly forced the correction that this is a RR, but it's still a rare and brilliant poster and it will be fascinating to see what it goes forany guesses? neil http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER- POSTER-1917-/180632385331? pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
The insert is clearly the nicer of the two. I tend to collect only lobby cards for myself because I have no more wall space but I'd rather have the insert. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters? I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_u id1=2120112 Auction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=830 33 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=8303 3 Which would YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] 2001 - WE HAVE A F______ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT!
* Almost one year ago, Freeman Fisher posted a you had to be there essay on MoPo about MGM's apoplectic and suicidal reaction to 2001 after it bombed in previews. I thought his essay was so brilliant in content and appeal that I saved it. * To me, that we're still arguing about 2001's merits more than 40 years later is relevant because it means the film is too controversial and/or compelling to be forgotten. On March 21, 2010, I remarked again that excepting sci-fi and comic book chick-nerds, not a single woman I know loves 2001. And to me, the gender gap issue is relevant to the film's appeal. * Earlier that same day, some incredulous MoPo members griped about a 2001 style B re-issue half-sheet selling at auction for $2,000. Why?, some members asked. Was the winning bidder out of his mind with more dollars than sense? * In response, Freeman posted a back-story to MoPo about MGM's expectations for 2001, closing with a single line referencing the aforementioned poster. The highlight of Freeman's story is a quote from a previously downcast MGM publicist named Ted Hatfield, who, during a later screening before a paying audience, turned suddenly euphoric, screaming into a phone to MGM brass, WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! I KID YOU NOT. WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! GODDAMN IT'S A HIT * You can read it below, copy-and-pasted in full. – d. === From: Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] 2001: a space odyssey Anecdotal True Stories Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:14:16 -0700 When I was a wee lad, I was utterly blown away by 2001: A Space Odyssey. I first saw it in San Antonio where I was born and raised. I remembered reading about it and even buying a comic book serialization before it ever hit the town learning much later as to why: the Cinerama engagements were first roll out, all other cities had to wait on the engagements in a very slow deliberate roll-out by MGM. Once opened, the film played exclusively at a General Cinema, 1000 seat theatre over a year, and literally keep getting moved to other houses for the better part of another year. We are talking San Antonio guyswhere the search for illegal aliens was nothing special. When I took a job in exhibition in Washington DC, that was when I hit Odyssey nirvana. The theatre chain I worked for owned the 1000 plus seat UPTOWN THEATRE a true Cinerama Theatre beginning in 1962, located walking distance from THE NATIONAL ZOO. But what really blew my mind was knowing the theatre was the host of the World Premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The theatre was shut down several months before the premiere and was completely renovated at a cost just north of $900,000 when $900,000.00 really meant somethingmind blowing given the reason for the renovation – was for the premiere of some space movie as told to me by the same manager still employed at the theatre when I started working for the circuit. (The Washington Post actually did an article on him when he retired in 1986 two years after I moved to DC, since it was estimated that 50% of the population knew who he was. Plus you can see the theatre in newsreel footage on the special DVD extras of 2001, but I digress). Further, since my job had me interacting with all studio publicists, one named Ted Hatfield who worked for MGM out of NYC at the time – (later moved to Columbia) – told me great stories of that horrible/wonderful time. In DC there were scheduled a series of screenings but the first was the WORLD PREMIERE and gala reception with NY and LA to follow. This film was a big, big investment for the studio at the time. Kubrick agreed to attend but he flexed, probably for his own amusement and eccentricity, some unusual demands. Can't remember them all, but he did insist at the ultra deluxe and traditionally Georgian styled, Hilton Hotel, literally walking distance from the theatre, that one elevator be his exclusively..and be painted out completely in purple. But he was a man under pressure, as all of MGM's brass were there along with a battalion of execs from NASA, McDonnell Douglas, TWA, Hilton and anyone else that lent their names, technology and sizeable promotional commitments. Did I mention there was never a test screening? Not surprising he took control of the actual presentation demanding agonizing test runs with the projectionists that went on well into the evening prior. The Premiere proved a huge media event with the typical black-tie glitterati of DC – and numerous Members Of Congress and Ambassadors in attendance. It un-spooled without a hitch AND IT BOMBED. We are talking B-O-M-B-E-D. Panicked MGM execs all met after only briefly showing up at the reception and assembled at the hotel with Kubrick. He actually began to suggest cuts to an evidently despondent, if not suicidal group of brass. But there were still two screenings
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
But does that make sense? It doesn't make sense to me. Which would YOU rather have in your collection? Certainly the emovieposter insert rather than the Heritage 1 sht. And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? No, just bigger than lobby cards and smaller than 24s. But, which one of them do you YOU prefer? On 6 Mar 2011, at 01:03, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Which would YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
There is no doubt that the insert is the superior image, but in this instance, if having to choose between the two items presented I would pick the one-sheet as it is unrestored while the insert is paperbacked. On 6 Mar 2011, at 01:03, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Which would YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer
Jeff and MOPO, I purchased the poster.love the image. Any MOPO opinions on whether it was a reasonable price? Am I a sucker? Also, if someone could please send me the re-release background that was posted a few days ago I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer high bid was $3919 and change jeff On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, allen day wrote: A guess-timate: 6-8k For certain: a jump 5k in the last 8 secs ad --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 7:37 PM there's a CC poster on ebay that's (not surprisingly) getting significant heat due to its awesome image. some knowledgeable buyers (no doubt MOPOers) have rightly forced the correction that this is a RR, but it's still a rare and brilliant poster and it will be fascinating to see what it goes forany guesses? neil http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/1806323 85331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/180632 385331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer
seems reasonable to me Doug when might you find another?? it's a silent title for Charlie among his top 10 of the period At 07:28 PM 3/5/2011, Doug Taylor wrote: Jeff and MOPO, I purchased the poster love the image. Any MOPO opinions on whether it was a reasonable price? Am I a sucker? Also, if someone could please send me the re-release background that was posted a few days ago I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylorProfile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer high bid was $3919 and change jeff On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, allen day wrote: A guess-timate: 6-8k For certain: a jump 5k in the last 8 secs ad --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Neil Jaworski mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.ukneiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Jaworski mailto:neiljawor...@yahoo.co.ukneiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 7:37 PM there's a CC poster on ebay that's (not surprisingly) getting significant heat due to its awesome image. some knowledgeable buyers (no doubt MOPOers) have rightly forced the correction that this is a RR, but it's still a rare and brilliant poster and it will be fascinating to see what it goes forany guesses? neil http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/180632385331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/180632385331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer
Doug, Although I am not a collector of silent material, I think the poster has a great iconic image and was reasonably priced. Plus on a rarity side of things, if no one in the esteemed group of MOPO has never seen is before, you know it is super rare, which I love! Congrats!!! Todd Spoor Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:28:38 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply-To: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer Jeff and MOPO, I purchased the poster.love the image. Any MOPO opinions on whether it was a reasonable price? Am I a sucker? Also, if someone could please send me the re-release background that was posted a few days ago I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer high bid was $3919 and change jeff On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, allen day wrote: A guess-timate: 6-8k For certain: a jump 5k in the last 8 secs ad --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 7:37 PM there's a CC poster on ebay that's (not surprisingly) getting significant heat due to its awesome image. some knowledgeable buyers (no doubt MOPOers) have rightly forced the correction that this is a RR, but it's still a rare and brilliant poster and it will be fascinating to see what it goes forany guesses? neil http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/1806323 85331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/180632 385331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer
Congrats Doug! From: Todd A. Spoor sp...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 7:48:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer Doug, Although I am not a collector of silent material, I think the poster has a great iconic image and was reasonably priced. Plus on a rarity side of things, if no one in the esteemed group of MOPO has never seen is before, you know it is super rare, which I love! Congrats!!! Todd Spoor Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® From: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:28:38 -0500 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ReplyTo: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer Jeff and MOPO, I purchased the poster…love the image. Any MOPO opinions on whether it was a reasonable price? Am I a sucker? Also, if someone could please send me the re-release background that was posted a few days ago I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you DBT Profile From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer high bid was $3919 and change jeff On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, allen day wrote: A guess-timate: 6-8k For certain: a jump 5k in the last 8 secs ad --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [MOPO] Charlie Chaplin - The Adventurer To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 7:37 PM there's a CC poster on ebay that's (not surprisingly) getting significant heat due to its awesome image. some knowledgeable buyers (no doubt MOPOers) have rightly forced the correction that this is a RR, but it's still a rare and brilliant poster and it will be fascinating to see what it goes forany guesses? neil http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-ADVENTURER-POSTER-1917-/180632385331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0e877733#ht_1109wt_698 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
This seems to the most scarce piece that collectors are willing to pay for. I have sold it twice and both times have done well though the unrestored copy did considerably better than the restored copy. http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=640Lot_No=28176 http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=617Lot_No=28676 Almost same image is insert, though the insert which I have sold as many times as the one sheets does not seem to be exceptionally scarce. It is a shame, in my opinion, that the paper for the Warner's titles of the 40s leave so much to be desired. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters? I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Which would YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our sitehttp://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctionshttp://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] 2001 - WE HAVE A F______ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT!
BTW I love 2001. I saw it on TV when I was a kid and was riveted and haunted. When I saw it on the large screen a couple of years ago, I was blown away. Toochis From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 7:01:33 PM Subject: [MOPO] 2001 - WE HAVE A F__ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT! * Almost one year ago, Freeman Fisher posted a you had to be there essay on MoPo about MGM's apoplectic and suicidal reaction to 2001 after it bombed in previews. I thought his essay was so brilliant in content and appeal that I saved it. * To me, that we're still arguing about 2001's merits more than 40 years later is relevant because it means the film is too controversial and/or compelling to be forgotten. On March 21, 2010, I remarked again that excepting sci-fi and comic book chick-nerds, not a single woman I know loves 2001. And to me, the gender gap issue is relevant to the film's appeal. * Earlier that same day, some incredulous MoPo members griped about a 2001 style B re-issue half-sheet selling at auction for $2,000. Why?, some members asked. Was the winning bidder out of his mind with more dollars than sense? * In response, Freeman posted a back-story to MoPo about MGM's expectations for 2001, closing with a single line referencing the aforementioned poster. The highlight of Freeman's story is a quote from a previously downcast MGM publicist named Ted Hatfield, who, during a later screening before a paying audience, turned suddenly euphoric, screaming into a phone to MGM brass, WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! I KID YOU NOT. WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! GODDAMN IT'S A HIT * You can read it below, copy-and-pasted in full. – d. === From: Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] 2001: a space odyssey Anecdotal True Stories Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:14:16 -0700 When I was a wee lad, I was utterly blown away by 2001: A Space Odyssey. I first saw it in San Antonio where I was born and raised. I remembered reading about it and even buying a comic book serialization before it ever hit the town learning much later as to why: the Cinerama engagements were first roll out, all other cities had to wait on the engagements in a very slow deliberate roll-out by MGM. Once opened, the film played exclusively at a General Cinema, 1000 seat theatre over a year, and literally keep getting moved to other houses for the better part of another year. We are talking San Antonio guyswhere the search for illegal aliens was nothing special. When I took a job in exhibition in Washington DC, that was when I hit Odyssey nirvana. The theatre chain I worked for owned the 1000 plus seat UPTOWN THEATRE a true Cinerama Theatre beginning in 1962, located walking distance from THE NATIONAL ZOO. But what really blew my mind was knowing the theatre was the host of the World Premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The theatre was shut down several months before the premiere and was completely renovated at a cost just north of $900,000 when $900,000.00 really meant somethingmind blowing given the reason for the renovation – was for the premiere of some space movie as told to me by the same manager still employed at the theatre when I started working for the circuit. (The Washington Post actually did an article on him when he retired in 1986 two years after I moved to DC, since it was estimated that 50% of the population knew who he was. Plus you can see the theatre in newsreel footage on the special DVD extras of 2001, but I digress). Further, since my job had me interacting with all studio publicists, one named Ted Hatfield who worked for MGM out of NYC at the time – (later moved to Columbia) – told me great stories of that horrible/wonderful time. In DC there were scheduled a series of screenings but the first was the WORLD PREMIERE and gala reception with NY and LA to follow. This film was a big, big investment for the studio at the time. Kubrick agreed to attend but he flexed, probably for his own amusement and eccentricity, some unusual demands. Can't remember them all, but he did insist at the ultra deluxe and traditionally Georgian styled, Hilton Hotel, literally walking distance from the theatre, that one elevator be his exclusively..and be painted out completely in purple. But he was a man under pressure, as all of MGM's brass were there along with a battalion of execs from NASA, McDonnell Douglas, TWA, Hilton and anyone else that lent their names, technology and sizeable promotional commitments. Did I mention there was never a test screening? Not surprising he took control of the actual presentation demanding agonizing test runs with the projectionists that went on well into the evening prior. The Premiere proved a huge media event with the typical black-tie glitterati
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
I love the artwork on the insert. I love the one sheet because it's not restored. Toochis From: Franc fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 7:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters? Message The insert is clearly the nicer of the two. I tend to collect only lobby cards for myself because I have no more wall space but I'd rather have the insert. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Do you solely collectcertain sizes of movie posters? I used to know quite a fewpeople who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few whospecialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look atthese two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Whichwould YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitateto some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours:Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site ourauctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for itscontent. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] 2001 - WE HAVE A F______ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT!
Kudos to our MoPo babes Sue Heim and Toochis for coming forward about 2001, making some of us feel less geeky. Meanwhile, I received a private note from a fellow MoPo member who wrote: two film things women universally hate: 1) 2001 A Space Odyssey 2) Three-Stooges. Coincidence? I think not. I think the Stooges qualify as having gender gap appeal. My wife dislikes 2001 (the inhale-exhale soundtrack when Hal is being disconnected drives her nuts) - and hates Bergman-type art-house movies w/symbolism, etc. She also finds the Stooges repulsive. For ex., while I'm rolling on the floor with gales of laughter when Curly pulls a white-hot metal tray out of an oven and, not finding a table, Curly puts the tray on Larry's back (who's bent over to pick up something and instantly screams in pain with smoke coming off his back), my wife's face is unflinching and as hard as stone. I've quizzed her about it and her answer is two-fold; she thinks the Stooges are facially unattractive and she finds the slapstick sound-effects juvenile. Yet she loves reality videos featuring accidental pratfalls like people falling into wedding cakes, etc. Go figure. Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:01:21 -0800 From: fly...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: 2001 - WE HAVE A F__ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU BTW I love 2001. I saw it on TV when I was a kid and was riveted and haunted. When I saw it on the large screen a couple of years ago, I was blown away. Toochis From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 7:01:33 PM Subject: [MOPO] 2001 - WE HAVE A F__ HIT! I KID YOU NOT. GOD-D___, IT'S A HIT! * Almost one year ago, Freeman Fisher posted a you had to be there essay on MoPo about MGM's apoplectic and suicidal reaction to 2001 after it bombed in previews. I thought his essay was so brilliant in content and appeal that I saved it. * To me, that we're still arguing about 2001's merits more than 40 years later is relevant because it means the film is too controversial and/or compelling to be forgotten. On March 21, 2010, I remarked again that excepting sci-fi and comic book chick-nerds, not a single woman I know loves 2001. And to me, the gender gap issue is relevant to the film's appeal. * Earlier that same day, some incredulous MoPo members griped about a 2001 style B re-issue half-sheet selling at auction for $2,000. Why?, some members asked. Was the winning bidder out of his mind with more dollars than sense? * In response, Freeman posted a back-story to MoPo about MGM's expectations for 2001, closing with a single line referencing the aforementioned poster. The highlight of Freeman's story is a quote from a previously downcast MGM publicist named Ted Hatfield, who, during a later screening before a paying audience, turned suddenly euphoric, screaming into a phone to MGM brass, WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! I KID YOU NOT. WE HAVE A FUCKING HIT! GODDAMN IT'S A HIT * You can read it below, copy-and-pasted in full. – d. === From: Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] 2001: a space odyssey Anecdotal True Stories Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:14:16 -0700 When I was a wee lad, I was utterly blown away by 2001: A Space Odyssey. I first saw it in San Antonio where I was born and raised. I remembered reading about it and even buying a comic book serialization before it ever hit the town learning much later as to why: the Cinerama engagements were first roll out, all other cities had to wait on the engagements in a very slow deliberate roll-out by MGM. Once opened, the film played exclusively at a General Cinema, a 1000-seat theatre over a year, and literally keep getting moved to other houses for the better part of another year. We are talking San Antonio guyswhere the search for illegal aliens was nothing special. When I took a job in exhibition in Washington DC, that was when I hit Odyssey nirvana. The theatre chain I worked for owned the 1000 plus seat UPTOWN THEATRE, a true Cinerama Theatre beginning in 1962, located walking distance from THE NATIONAL ZOO. But what really blew my mind was knowing the theatre was the host of the World Premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The theatre was shut down several months before the premiere and was completely renovated at a cost just north of $900,000 when $900,000.00 really meant somethingmind blowing given the reason for the renovation – was for the premiere of some space movie as told to me by the same manager still employed at the theatre when I started working for the circuit. (The Washington Post actually did an article on him when he retired in 1986 two years after I moved to DC, since it was estimated that 50% of the population knew who he was. Plus you can see the theatre in newsreel footage on the special DVD
Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters?
Like Toochis and Franc. The insert IMHO is much better than the one sheet for this great film. But not for any of the reasons mentioned. I personally prefer my Bogart poster images to be without him wearing red lipstick fwf On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Toochis Morin wrote: I love the artwork on the insert. I love the one sheet because it's not restored. Toochis From: Franc fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 7:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters? The insert is clearly the nicer of the two. I tend to collect only lobby cards for myself because I have no more wall space but I'd rather have the insert. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Do you solely collect certain sizes of movie posters? I used to know quite a few people who solely collected one-sheets or lobby cards, and just a few who specialized in other sizes. But does that make sense? Look at these two posters: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detailAuction_uid1=2120112 and http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035Lot_No=83033 Which would YOU rather have in your collection? And do YOU gravitate to some sizes most (or all) of the time? Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 28 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
