Re: [MOPO] Aw: Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Alan Heimann]

While  we’re on the topic of vertigo posters ..I remember once hearing that
no two are exactly alike ..that there is some intentional degree of
variation of the man in the spiral ..true?

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 6:33 PM Helmut Hamm  wrote:

> It was a long time ago, but I never forgot the VERTIGO Onesheet on ebay
> that was faded to a light yellow. The full-time movie poster dealer (excuse
> me if I don‘t use the term ‚professional‘ here) had it described as
> ‚possible Style B‘. Uh-huh.
>
>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 29.03.2023 um 19:03 Uhr
> > Von: "Matt Johnston" 
> > An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> > Betreff: Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR.
> HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots
> >
> > For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder
> many many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his
> picture. I unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat
> file since.  My photo setup was designed to get a true and honest
> representation of color, detail and condition — no added sharpening and
> absolutely no added color saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board
> with color steady strobes and color corrected, honestly, to the best of my
> ability so that I end up with good consistency between various batched of
> pictures. I guess it’s possible uploading to imgur for hosting (where they
> probably recompressing it) could slightly affect color representation. And
> of course the screen you are viewing it on might not be color correction,
> etc., etc...
> >
> > That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference"
> example.
> >
> > Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that
> here.
> >
> > https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg
> >
> > https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I
> would not want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because
> it's not within the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.
> > >
> > > Kirby
> > >
> > >> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino <
> mpexchangeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come
> out of Maddalena's Florida room.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  > wrote:
> > >> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing
> the one sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain
> "shade", if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet
> we have seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red
> variants of the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are
> in the range that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some
> color shift since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my
> question is: is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of
> "lighter".  Most of the posters that I have seen which are significantly
> sun-faded have some textural degradation of the paper itself.
> > >>
> > >> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason
> that it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
> > >>
> > >> K.
> > >>
> > >> Kirby McDaniel
> > >> movieart.com 
> > >>
> > >>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto <
> davidmkusum...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.
> > >>
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Re: [MOPO] Decor?/Vertigo

[S & N Yafet]

Always good to see your posts, Todd.  It's a relief that the decor issue
has only happened once to you.

Kirby it just gets stranger.  "Rodeo themed"  Forgive me but having a room
theme being animals "broken" and "roped" for entertainment and the posters
have to match that?

The only "theme" I have is the room where my unframed, undealt with stuff
is (carefully) stored.  My husband calls it the black room.  I call it the
tomb of Tutankhamun before Howard Carter arrived.
Nathalie



On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 6:17 PM Todd Feiertag  wrote:

> Years ago, I did have someone return a poster because they said the color
> did not match their curtains or their carpet.  I don't remember which but
> that is the ONLY time something like that has ever happened.
>
> Getting back to Vertigo...  It's been a long time since I had a One Sheet
> but the last copy I had, had color as vivid and saturated as David's Window
> Card!
>
> Todd
> --
> *From:* MoPo List  on behalf of Kirby
> McDaniel 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2023 6:04 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Decor?
>
> And that consideration may be thematic (like westerns in a wood paneled
> game room with rodeo decor) or it might be "I need something in a lime
> green."
>
> It's true.
>
> Kirby
>
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 3:56 PM, S & N Yafet  wrote:
>
> Kirby,
> This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion
> which is very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their
> "decor" when buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would
> have conniptions over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
> Nathalie
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  wrote:
>
> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one
> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade",
> if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have
> seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of
> the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range
> that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift
> since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is:
> is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most
> of the posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some
> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>
> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that
> it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>
> K.
>
> Kirby McDaniel
> movieart.com
> 
>
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
> wrote:
>
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.
>
>
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[MOPO] Postal Service handling issues

[Moviemem Original Movie Posters]

Hi to you all
There have been lots of comments on Social Media about an increase in damaged 
packages, no matter how well they are packed.

I recently sold some high end posters to a collector in Europe. Thankfully it 
all went very smoothly.

However, much as I tried to anticipate any potential issues there was always 
some risk involved:


  1.  The package was fully insured but there is some fine print about what is 
and what is not covered.
  2.  The buyer paid with Paypal. If the package was damaged in transit and the 
buyer had to be refunded, Paypal do not refund their fee which was significant.
  3.  The buyer had to pay customs charges BEFORE the package even landed in 
the country.
  4.  If the package arrived damaged, the buyer would quite rightly expect 
customs charges to be refunded but how would that work? I would imagine that 
there would be a lot of red tape in getting a refund.
  5.  I think some buyers would expect the seller to cover all costs 
immediately in the event of damage.

Fortunately, I didn't have any problems but just curious as to whether everyone 
here takes into consideration all of the risks that are involved in 
International Shipping of high end items.

Regards

John



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[MOPO] Aw: Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Helmut Hamm]

It was a long time ago, but I never forgot the VERTIGO Onesheet on ebay that 
was faded to a light yellow. The full-time movie poster dealer (excuse me if I 
don‘t use the term ‚professional‘ here) had it described as ‚possible Style B‘. 
Uh-huh. 


> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 29.03.2023 um 19:03 Uhr
> Von: "Matt Johnston" 
> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Betreff: Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, 
> FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots
> 
> For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
> many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
> unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  
> My photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of color, 
> detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added color 
> saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady strobes 
> and color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I end up 
> with good consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s 
> possible uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably recompressing 
> it) could slightly affect color representation. And of course the screen you 
> are viewing it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...
> 
> That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
> example.  
> 
> Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that 
> here. 
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg
> 
> 
> > On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote:
> > 
> > I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would 
> > not want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not 
> > within the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.
> > 
> > Kirby
> > 
> >> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
> >> Maddalena's Florida room.
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  >> > wrote:
> >> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
> >> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", 
> >> if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have 
> >> seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of 
> >> the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the 
> >> range that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color 
> >> shift since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my 
> >> question is: is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of 
> >> "lighter".  Most of the posters that I have seen which are significantly 
> >> sun-faded have some textural degradation of the paper itself.
> >> 
> >> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that 
> >> it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
> >> 
> >> K.
> >> 
> >> Kirby McDaniel
> >> movieart.com 
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
> >> 
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Re: [MOPO] Aw: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!

[allen day]

agreed

ad

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 6:24 PM Helmut Hamm  wrote:

> I wouldn‘t know which poster is most commonly found in collections, but
> for the most owned movie poster (original or reproduction) of all time my
> money is on the STAR WARS Style A Onesheet. An entire industry developed
> around the SW franchise, both collectors and decorators have been buying
> this poster pretty much from Day One, and it still sells. I seriously doubt
> that ANY other movie poster even comes close to this one.
>
> Helmut
>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 29.03.2023 um 01:26 Uhr
> > Von: "Bruce Hershenson" 
> > An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> > Betreff: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!
> >
> > *One of my 67,000+ customers posed a question to me that REALLY has me
> > puzzled. It SEEMS like there should be an obvious answer, but when I
> > reflected on it, I was not even sure what the top candidates are!Here it
> > is: "What would you say is the most owned movie poster (original or
> > reproduction)? The one that is most commonly found in collections?".So
> > NON-movie posters (like images of top stars) ARE excluded, but commercial
> > copies of movie posters are NOT. And of course most serious collectors
> are
> > very few, if any, repros.I could tell you where my thinking led me, but I
> > would first like to hear what YOU think.Please don't leave me hanging!
> > There are NO bad answers!*
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[MOPO] Aw: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!

[Helmut Hamm]

I wouldn‘t know which poster is most commonly found in collections, but for the 
most owned movie poster (original or reproduction) of all time my money is on 
the STAR WARS Style A Onesheet. An entire industry developed around the SW 
franchise, both collectors and decorators have been buying this poster pretty 
much from Day One, and it still sells. I seriously doubt that ANY other movie 
poster even comes close to this one.

Helmut

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 29.03.2023 um 01:26 Uhr
> Von: "Bruce Hershenson" 
> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Betreff: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!
> 
> *One of my 67,000+ customers posed a question to me that REALLY has me
> puzzled. It SEEMS like there should be an obvious answer, but when I
> reflected on it, I was not even sure what the top candidates are!Here it
> is: "What would you say is the most owned movie poster (original or
> reproduction)? The one that is most commonly found in collections?".So
> NON-movie posters (like images of top stars) ARE excluded, but commercial
> copies of movie posters are NOT. And of course most serious collectors are
> very few, if any, repros.I could tell you where my thinking led me, but I
> would first like to hear what YOU think.Please don't leave me hanging!
> There are NO bad answers!*
> 
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Re: [MOPO] Decor?/Vertigo

[Todd Feiertag]

Years ago, I did have someone return a poster because they said the color did 
not match their curtains or their carpet.  I don't remember which but that is 
the ONLY time something like that has ever happened.

Getting back to Vertigo...  It's been a long time since I had a One Sheet but 
the last copy I had, had color as vivid and saturated as David's Window Card!

Todd

From: MoPo List  on behalf of Kirby McDaniel 

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 6:04 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Decor?

And that consideration may be thematic (like westerns in a wood paneled game 
room with rodeo decor) or it might be "I need something in a lime green."

It's true.

Kirby

On Mar 29, 2023, at 3:56 PM, S & N Yafet  wrote:

Kirby,
This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion which is 
very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their "decor" when 
buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would have conniptions 
over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
Nathalie

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

Kirby McDaniel
movieart.com

On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.




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Re: [MOPO] Decor?

[Kirby McDaniel]

And that consideration may be thematic (like westerns in a wood paneled game 
room with rodeo decor) or it might be "I need something in a lime green."   

It's true.

Kirby

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 3:56 PM, S & N Yafet  wrote:
> 
> Kirby, 
> This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion which 
> is very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their "decor" when 
> buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would have 
> conniptions over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
> Nathalie 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  > wrote:
>> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
>> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
>> you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, 
>> as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the 
>> poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that 
>> was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since 
>> the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this 
>> poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the 
>> posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some 
>> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>> 
>> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
>> would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>> 
>> K.
>> 
>> Kirby McDaniel
>> movieart.com 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
>> 
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Re: [MOPO] Decor?

[David Kusumoto]

Actually, this phenomenon comes up in a MOVIE.  Cantankerous / grouchy artist 
scolds a potential buyer who prefers to buy art that matches his living room 
decor:

"This is degrading. You DON'T buy paintings to blend in with the sofa!" - Max 
Von Sydow yelling at potential buyer Daniel Stern in "Hannah and Her Sisters" 
(1986).

From: MoPo List  on behalf of S & N Yafet 

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:56 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Decor?

Kirby,
This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion which is 
very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their "decor" when 
buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would have conniptions 
over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
Nathalie

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

Kirby McDaniel
movieart.com

On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.




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[MOPO] Decor?

[S & N Yafet]

Kirby,
This thread is out of my ballpark, other than the "fading" discussion which
is very helpful.   But your mentioning people considering their "decor"
when buying movie paper really made me gasp.  The same people would have
conniptions over my Lewton group hanging on Victorian wallpaper.
Nathalie

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  wrote:

> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one
> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade",
> if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have
> seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of
> the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range
> that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift
> since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is:
> is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most
> of the posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some
> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>
> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that
> it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>
> K.
>
> Kirby McDaniel
> movieart.com
>
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
> wrote:
>
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.
>
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Re: [MOPO] Vertigo 1S

[David Kusumoto]

They were embedded for me after I just re-copied and pasted your links (not 
mine) - into my online Microsoft Outlook email program to write this reply - 
although the images look like they've been "auto-resized" by the software to 
avoid endless text margins - which discourages auto-wrap.  Meanwhile, your 
poster is a beauty.  It's been more than 10 years since I've last seen an 
unbacked / unused near mint folded Vertigo with the color scheme I best 
remember.

Meanwhile, you can also visit Bruce H's site and see all manner of Vertigo 
one-sheets in different shades on a single page - with a primo on linen that 
sold in September 2020 that was "very good to fine" - that had the best 
(subjective) shade I've seen.  Bruce sold mine in May 2010 (imaged at the very 
bottom that was in "very good" condition on linen.  But I also consigned a 
STONE MINT NEVER USED Vertigo WC in May 2012 for me (also imaged at the very 
bottom) that he attached a "fine" grade - (which was "fine" with me as he never 
grades higher than "fine").  I got that one from Lou Ann Wooley if people 
remember her.

Meanwhile, you can see the "varying shades" of Vertigo one-sheets on a single 
page on Bruce's site here at the link below.

https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/VERTIGO%2520%2528%252758%2529/country/U.S./type/1sh/archive.html

There are even two (2) "creamsicle" versions he sold in 2008 and in 2012.  
Appropriately, Bruce graded the 2008 version in "fair" condition and the 2012 
version in "fair to good" condition.  -d.

Matt's Johnston Vertigo via Alan Adler 1/3
https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg
[https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Matt's Johnston Vertigo via Alan Adler 2/3
https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg
[https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

Matt's Johnston Vertigo via Alan Adler 3/3
https://i.imgur.com/SaAM2Vj.jpg
[https://i.imgur.com/SaAM2Vj.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]

=

David K. Vertigo 1-sheet on linen, "very good" - May 2010.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4041/H7bcZ5.jpg
[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4041/H7bcZ5.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1=1]


David K. Vertigo window card, unfolded, unbacked, "fine" - May 2012.

[https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9281/vmW08x.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1]



From: MoPo List  on behalf of Matt Johnston 

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 10:46 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER 
PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

It’s a marvelous poster Alan, thank you!  Here is a shot of the back, which is 
just as clean as the front.  I can’t make out any inventory numbers myself.

Adam — My vacuum board was made by me back when I was more adventurous. Perf 
steel sheet sanded and painted a bunch of time until smooth, built over a 1x4 
wood frame with lots of ribs to combat sagging, two inlets for shop vacs 
depending on how much suction I need.

Were the photos embedded for anyone?

https://i.imgur.com/SaAM2Vj.jpg


On Mar 29, 2023, at 1:28 PM, Alan Adler 
mailto:m...@charter.net>> wrote:

Hi Matt - Glad you still have that Vertigo I sold you - I think I found 3 mint 
ones like this and one used one - So there should be a couple more out there. 
Came out of a cubby-holed shelf from a shuttered poster distribution hub in 
Charlotte in the early 1970s. Someone could ID ones from this find by inventory 
numbers on the reverse, top right corner.  These Vertigo pieces had been 
sitting there on that shelf in storage since 1958. I think my best buddy, Robby 
McClure, got a couple of them, too. Robbie also pulled something like nine mint 
Forbidden Planet one sheets from the same score and sold them to Bob Coleman - 
Rest his soul, one of the great old-school Hollywood poster dealers. Robbie  
bought a boat with the money and named it Forbidden Planet. Those were the 
days. Enjoy!

On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Matt Johnston 
mailto:drharryc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  My 
photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of color, 
detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added color 
saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady strobes and 
color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I end up with good 
consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s possible 
uploading to imgur for hosting 

[MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has WEREWOLF OF LONDON, DR.JEKYLL, JAWS, & More - 364 lots

[Carteron, Bruce - 1551]

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Featured this week - Heritage is proud to present a Great selection of very 
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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Paramount, 1931). Fine+. Lobby Card (11" X 14").
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You Only Live Twice (United Artists, 1967). Fine/Very Fine on Linen. British 
Quad (30" X 40") Style B, Frank McCarthy and Robert McGinnis Artwork.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/you-only-live-twice-united-artists-1967-fine-very-fine-on-linen-british-quad-30-x-40-style-b-frank-mccarthy-and-ro/a/162314-51345.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Jaws (Universal, 1975). Rolled, Very Fine/Near Mint. Insert (14" X 36"). Roger 
Kastel Artwork.
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Revenge of the Jedi (20th Century Fox, 1982). Rolled, Very Fine. One Sheet (27" 
X 41") Advance Dated Style, Drew Struzan Artwork.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/revenge-of-the-jedi-20th-century-fox-1982-rolled-very-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-advance-dated-style-drew-struzan-art/a/162314-51239.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Laugh, Clown, Laugh (MGM, 1928). Fine. Lobby Card (11" X 14").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/laugh-clown-laugh-mgm-1928-fine-lobby-card-11-x-14-drama/a/162314-51181.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Raiders of the Lost Ark (Paramount, 1994). Rolled, Near Mint/Mint. Commercial 
One Sheet (27" X 41") Richard Amsel Artwork.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/adventure/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-paramount-1994-rolled-near-mint-mint-commercial-one-sheet-27-x-41-richard-amsel-artwork/a/162314-51234.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Eve Productions, 1965). Folded, Very Fine. One 
Sheet (27" X 41") Style A.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/exploitation/faster-pussycat-kill-kill-eve-productions-1965-folded-very-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-a-exploitation/a/162314-51118.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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The Grateful Dead in Concert '81 (Mike Scheller Concerts, 1981). Rolled, Very 
Fine+. German Concert Poster (33.5" X 24").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/rock-and-roll/the-grateful-dead-in-concert-81-mike-scheller-concerts-1981-rolled-very-fine-german-concert-poster-335-x-24-ro/a/162314-51074.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Detour (PRC, 1945). Fine+. Title Lobby Card (11" X 14").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/detour-prc-1945-fine-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-film-noir/a/162314-51093.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

[https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5b2/7/8/7/6/27876607%5d,sizedata%5b850x600%5d=url%5bfile:product.chain%5d]

Barbarella (Paramount, 1968). Folded, Very Fine-. One Sheet (27" X 41") Style B.

Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Matt Johnston]

It’s a marvelous poster Alan, thank you!  Here is a shot of the back, which is 
just as clean as the front.  I can’t make out any inventory numbers myself. 

Adam — My vacuum board was made by me back when I was more adventurous. Perf 
steel sheet sanded and painted a bunch of time until smooth, built over a 1x4 
wood frame with lots of ribs to combat sagging, two inlets for shop vacs 
depending on how much suction I need.

Were the photos embedded for anyone? 

https://i.imgur.com/SaAM2Vj.jpg


> On Mar 29, 2023, at 1:28 PM, Alan Adler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt - Glad you still have that Vertigo I sold you - I think I found 3 
> mint ones like this and one used one - So there should be a couple more out 
> there. Came out of a cubby-holed shelf from a shuttered poster distribution 
> hub in Charlotte in the early 1970s. Someone could ID ones from this find by 
> inventory numbers on the reverse, top right corner.  These Vertigo pieces had 
> been sitting there on that shelf in storage since 1958. I think my best 
> buddy, Robby McClure, got a couple of them, too. Robbie also pulled something 
> like nine mint Forbidden Planet one sheets from the same score and sold them 
> to Bob Coleman - Rest his soul, one of the great old-school Hollywood poster 
> dealers. Robbie  bought a boat with the money and named it Forbidden Planet. 
> Those were the days. Enjoy!
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Matt Johnston  wrote:
>> 
>> For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
>> many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
>> unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  
>> My photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of 
>> color, detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added 
>> color saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady 
>> strobes and color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I 
>> end up with good consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess 
>> it’s possible uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably 
>> recompressing it) could slightly affect color representation. And of course 
>> the screen you are viewing it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...
>> 
>> That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
>> example.  
>> 
>> Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that 
>> here. 
>> 
>> https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg 
>> 
>> https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would 
>>> not want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not 
>>> within the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.
>>> 
>>> Kirby
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino >>> > wrote:
 
 Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
 Maddalena's Florida room.
 
 On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel >>> > wrote:
 Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
 sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", 
 if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have 
 seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of 
 the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the 
 range that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color 
 shift since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my 
 question is: is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of 
 "lighter".  Most of the posters that I have seen which are significantly 
 sun-faded have some textural degradation of the paper itself.
 
 I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that 
 it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
 
 K.
 
 Kirby McDaniel
 movieart.com 
 
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto  > wrote:
> 
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Alan Adler]

Hi Matt - Glad you still have that Vertigo I sold you - I think I found 3 mint 
ones like this and one used one - So there should be a couple more out there. 
Came out of a cubby-holed shelf from a shuttered poster distribution hub in 
Charlotte in the early 1970s. Someone could ID ones from this find by inventory 
numbers on the reverse, top right corner.  These Vertigo pieces had been 
sitting there on that shelf in storage since 1958. I think my best buddy, Robby 
McClure, got a couple of them, too. Robbie also pulled something like nine mint 
Forbidden Planet one sheets from the same score and sold them to Bob Coleman - 
Rest his soul, one of the great old-school Hollywood poster dealers. Robbie  
bought a boat with the money and named it Forbidden Planet. Those were the 
days. Enjoy!

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Matt Johnston  wrote:
> 
> For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
> many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
> unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  
> My photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of color, 
> detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added color 
> saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady strobes 
> and color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I end up 
> with good consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s 
> possible uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably recompressing 
> it) could slightly affect color representation. And of course the screen you 
> are viewing it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...
> 
> That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
> example.  
> 
> Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that 
> here. 
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel > > wrote:
>> 
>> I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would 
>> not want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not 
>> within the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.
>> 
>> Kirby
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
>>> Maddalena's Florida room.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel >> > wrote:
 Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
 sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", 
 if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have 
 seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of 
 the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the 
 range that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color 
 shift since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my 
 question is: is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of 
 "lighter".  Most of the posters that I have seen which are significantly 
 sun-faded have some textural degradation of the paper itself.
 
 I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that 
 it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
 
 K.
 
 Kirby McDaniel
 movieart.com 
 
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto  > wrote:
> 
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Adam at Art of the Movies]

That looks great Matt and your photographic setup must be top notch.

Do you have details of the vacuum board that you use? I have wondering about 
getting hold of one.

Adam.

On 29 Mar 2023, at 18:04, Matt Johnston  wrote:

 For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  My 
photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of color, 
detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added color 
saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady strobes and 
color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I end up with good 
consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s possible 
uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably recompressing it) could 
slightly affect color representation. And of course the screen you are viewing 
it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...

That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
example.

Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that here.

https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg


On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:

I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would not 
want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not within 
the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.

Kirby

On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino 
mailto:mpexchangeu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
Maddalena's Florida room.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel 
mailto:ki...@movieart.com>> wrote:
Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

Kirby McDaniel
movieart.com

On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.




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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Matt Johnston]

For color reference… This is an unused example I bought from Alan Alder many 
many years ago. He said it had only been unfolded once for his picture. I 
unfolded it a 2nd time for these photos and it’s been in a flat file since.  My 
photo setup was designed to get a true and honest representation of color, 
detail and condition — no added sharpening and absolutely no added color 
saturation. Yuck. This was shot on a vacuum board with color steady strobes and 
color corrected, honestly, to the best of my ability so that I end up with good 
consistency between various batched of pictures. I guess it’s possible 
uploading to imgur for hosting (where they probably recompressing it) could 
slightly affect color representation. And of course the screen you are viewing 
it on might not be color correction, etc., etc...

That all said, this is probably as close as you’ll come to a “reference" 
example.  

Apologies if the pics don’t embed… I never was quite sure how to do that here. 

https://i.imgur.com/hH4ni3N.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aegyhXp.jpg


> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote:
> 
> I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would 
> not want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not 
> within the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.
> 
> Kirby
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
>> Maddalena's Florida room.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel > > wrote:
>> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
>> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
>> you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, 
>> as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the 
>> poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that 
>> was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since 
>> the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this 
>> poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the 
>> posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some 
>> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>> 
>> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
>> would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>> 
>> K.
>> 
>> Kirby McDaniel
>> movieart.com 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Kirby McDaniel]

I take your point.  Having said that, sun-faded or something else, I would not 
want this poster, either personally or for inventory, because it's not within 
the range that was intended.  Not for $9000 +, not for $500.

Kirby

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:32 AM, peter contarino  
> wrote:
> 
> Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of 
> Maddalena's Florida room.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  > wrote:
>> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
>> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
>> you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, 
>> as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the 
>> poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that 
>> was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since 
>> the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this 
>> poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the 
>> posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some 
>> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>> 
>> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
>> would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>> 
>> K.
>> 
>> Kirby McDaniel
>> movieart.com 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 
>> 
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Re: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!

[peter contarino]

Return To Macon County, no question.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 2:33 AM Steven Hill  wrote:

> I'm gonna guess Scarface or Pulp Fiction.
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 7:26 PM Bruce Hershenson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *One of my 67,000+ customers posed a question to me that REALLY has me
> puzzled. It SEEMS like there should be an obvious answer, but when I
> reflected on it, I was not even sure what the top candidates are!Here it
> is: "What would you say is the most owned movie poster (original or
> reproduction)? The one that is most commonly found in collections?".So
> NON-movie posters (like images of top stars) ARE excluded, but commercial
> copies of movie posters are NOT. And of course most serious collectors are
> very few, if any, repros.I could tell you where my thinking led me, but I
> would first like to hear what YOU think.Please don't leave me hanging!
> There are NO bad answers!*
>
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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[peter contarino]

Kirby look at the blacks on that poster. That thing must have come out of
Maddalena's Florida room.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15 AM Kirby McDaniel  wrote:

> Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one
> sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade",
> if you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have
> seen, as has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of
> the poster as well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range
> that was intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift
> since the day they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is:
> is this poster sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most
> of the posters that I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some
> textural degradation of the paper itself.
>
> I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that
> it would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.
>
> K.
>
> Kirby McDaniel
> movieart.com
>
> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto 
> wrote:
>
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d.
>
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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[Kirby McDaniel]

Speaking to that: the intent of Saul Bass with regard to designing the one 
sheet for VERTIGO was to specify a background color of a certain "shade", if 
you will, of orange.  I have always called it vermillion.  Yet we have seen, as 
has been pointed out that there are (almost) deep red variants of the poster as 
well as posters that are light orange.  Most are in the range that was 
intended.  It is safe to say that most have had some color shift since the day 
they were printed sixty-five years ago.  So, my question is: is this poster 
sun-faded, or is it merely in the range of "lighter".  Most of the posters that 
I have seen which are significantly sun-faded have some textural degradation of 
the paper itself.

I have heard people lionize a deep red variant for the simple reason that it 
would "work better" with their decor.  I kid you NOT.

K.

Kirby McDaniel
movieart.com

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 5:41 AM, David Kusumoto  
> wrote:
> 
> Again, just my opinion, not necessarily factual. - d. 


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Re: [MOPO] FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

[David Kusumoto]

Yeah I agree that grading standards have slipped over there, which stands out 
more because Vertigo one-sheets are always in demand and not considered 
"cultish" nor "obscure."  Reconciling images with aberrant text descriptions 
are head scratchers when it happens as it did with the "creamsicle / 50-50 ice 
cream bar" Vertigo.

I'll have to look more closely at the "other" faded Vertigo you mention that's 
being offered in the Signature because it would be odd if identical and / or if 
not - if it is given the same grading treatment.  Those images are very 
specific so it should be easy to spot differences.  Plus - "Very fine on linen" 
has a very specific connotation / expectation for collectors vs. to the lay 
buyer - the latter who might not EVER know that it's a grade that should never 
be applied to a faded poster.

Fading is a kiss of death for posters, sometimes more worrisome than tears and 
small missing pieces simply because too much air-brushing and stencil cutting 
gets involved to darken what's gone forever.  You look at the oldest "Vertigo" 
example during the past year offered in Dallas - which sold a short time after 
Grey left - and it's graded in "fine" condition and is arguably the preferred 
poster because the colors are deeper, richer and closer to the original despite 
the "lesser" grade.  It almost feels like THAT poster was one of the last ones 
Grey graded - before he moved on.  The other thing is I know those guys have 
had some issues finding people willing / able to write detailed text 
descriptions required for all lots offered, as indeed it's a tedious process 
even with templates - and their poster department is still understaffed and 
seems unlikely to handle the workload required for their sales vs. the team at 
eMoviePoster, which alerts customers to delays related to careful packaging and 
sorting.  Heritage's focus outside of Sunday sales seems to be trying to lure 
the six-figure cost titles and / or big collections - and they do well enough 
for that - (they still produce good catalogs that I enjoy receiving - and they 
even got Hershenson to agree to write an intro for their silent film poster 
sale months back) - but they're not as adept from an equity / knowledge 
standpoint to address movie posters, their variations and what not - as a 
standalone section viable to vintage paper buyers - vs. when Grey was there 
when he built that dept. from scratch.  Again, just my opinion, not necessarily 
factual. - d.


From: MoPo List  on behalf of peter contarino 

Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:31 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: FA: THIS WEEK HERITAGE has DETOUR, DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE, FASTER 
PUSSYCAT, & More- 364 lots

Thanks David, I neglected to mention the title! Yeah HA has gone down the drain 
since Grey left. If you look at the last Sunday auction there are a lot of 
really faded pieces. Even in the recent signature auction there was the biggest 
selection of faded LC's I have ever seen. Shocking to see that level of 
material in a Sig auction. Evidently Bruce is not grading all or some of the 
auction material. There is another sweet creamsicle variant coming up in the 
Sig auction in march. Looks remarkably similar to the one they just "sold" on 
Sunday.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 3:43 AM S & N Yafet 
mailto:sya...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds accurate. I never collected Hitchcock but your explanation and opinions 
make sense.   I suspect the "creamsickle orange" descriptor will be difficult 
to forget.  Thanks for the reply!
Nathalie

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 1:33 AM David Kusumoto 
mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah I think Peter is talking about the Vertigo one-sheet that sold for $9600.  
Whoever graded it "VF on linen" hasn't seen a lot of Vertigo one sheets - or - 
is engaging in hopeful / wishful thinking. And yet - because it was in a Sunday 
weekly sale instead of a signature sale - suggests someone might've known it 
wasn't high grade - despite the premium condition label attached, hoping 
whoever bought would rely on the image vs. what was in the descriptive text.

In my view, if Grey Smith was still there - (he left Heritage more than a year 
ago and is now doing fine over at Propstore) - it's unlikely he would've ever 
let this go up with a "VF" grade. He would've probably given it a "G-VG on 
linen" - while Bruce H. would've given it a "G on linen" - both grades, 
whatever their differences - would've been a lot closer than "VF on linen" 
represented.  Just my opinion, not factual.  -d.

Comparisons during the past year:

* VF on linen - $9,600 on March 23, 2023


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Re: [MOPO] A question to me that REALLY has me puzzled!

[Steven Hill]

 I'm gonna guess Scarface or Pulp Fiction.
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 7:26 PM Bruce Hershenson  
wrote:

One of my 67,000+ customers posed a question to me that REALLY has me puzzled. 
It SEEMS like there should be an obvious answer, but when I reflected on it, I 
was not even sure what the top candidates are!

Here it is: "What would you say is the most owned movie poster (original or 
reproduction)? The one that is most commonly found in collections?".

So NON-movie posters (like images of top stars) ARE excluded, but commercial 
copies of movie posters are NOT. And of course most serious collectors are very 
few, if any, repros.

I could tell you where my thinking led me, but I would first like to hear what 
YOU think.

Please don't leave me hanging! There are NO bad answers!

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